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BIG RED joins the show! · Day Drinking With Dog

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back today drinking a dog.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I am so honored to have one of the
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  Speaker 2: most famous Yukon fans, if not the most famous Yukon
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  Speaker 2: fan men's basketball of all time, Tom Emory aka Big Red.
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  Speaker 2: That was your chant that you've started at Yukon. You
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  Speaker 2: can explain how many years ago it was when we
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  Speaker 2: get into it. But thanks for driving down from Wallingford, Connecticut.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's kind of a pain to come down here,
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  Speaker 2: especially with the rain, but I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Man, not a problem at all, you know. That's what
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  Speaker 3: I'm here for. I've always given my time to people
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  Speaker 3: who are respectful fans and honorable fans, and what I
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  Speaker 3: understand is you are one of them.
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  Speaker 1: I am, I've been a fan and the show is
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  Speaker 1: not about me.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll do a quick Since eighty eight, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: go to Yukon, but I think it was the senior
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  Speaker 2: year for Cliff Robinson. Was eighty eight or eighty nine,
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  Speaker 2: and they had a decent year that year. And then
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  Speaker 2: of course I think it was eighty nine, was into
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  Speaker 2: ninety was the Tate George Tate, George Chris Smith. I
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  Speaker 2: was about fifteen years before that, So yeah, I figured
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  Speaker 2: as much.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to, you know, to date it there.
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  Speaker 1: But so when did it all. Did you go to Yukon?
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  Speaker 3: Nope, never went to Yukon. Uh. The way it actually
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  Speaker 3: started was my sister's boyfriend went to Yukon the year
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  Speaker 3: after we graduated high school. I was a friend of his.
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  Speaker 3: We went to a couple of games that year the
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  Speaker 3: following after about three years, we had bought season tickets
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  Speaker 3: and from then on it was just continuation. I dated
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  Speaker 3: a girl that went to Yukon after that, she was
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  Speaker 3: a little younger than I was, and then from there
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  Speaker 3: we just continued and it was you know, it was
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  Speaker 3: a great way to spend time. I was a very
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  Speaker 3: pro athletic, sports minded person and it was great for
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  Speaker 3: me to just enjoy the sport.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, if you're fifteen years prior, they didn't really have
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  Speaker 2: the greatest uh the greatest program back then, I would
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  Speaker 2: I would just well.
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  Speaker 3: They were actually in the I think it was called
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  Speaker 3: the con Sure it's dating me now. I think it
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  Speaker 3: was the Colonial and that was with holy Cross, New Hampshire, Vermont,
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  Speaker 3: you name them, I mean going back Maine, black Bears.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to remember that far back, but uh,
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  Speaker 3: that's when they you know, we were we weren't. It
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  Speaker 3: was prior to what I'll say. It was the latter
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  Speaker 3: part of the d row eraror and then I got
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  Speaker 3: into the perno era. And then when caloh Heat Calhoun
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  Speaker 3: came into the coaching it just changed the realm of
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  Speaker 3: the game itself.
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  Speaker 1: So what year did Calhoun came in? In eighty four?
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, I was going to say
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  Speaker 3: eighty it because he came from Northeastern, right right, correct,
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  Speaker 3: He actually went through a couple of steps to get
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  Speaker 3: to Northeastern and then came down the Army. No, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it was army. I think he was. It
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  Speaker 3: was a small school and I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, So he comes from Northeastern.
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  Speaker 3: Comes down at eight and then he of course we
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  Speaker 3: didn't have a great year the first two or three years,
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  Speaker 3: but then at that time, remember there was no Final four.
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  Speaker 3: It was the N I N I still right, And
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  Speaker 3: we came close a couple of times. We I mean
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  Speaker 3: through the years. We had a march with Corney Thompson,
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  Speaker 3: We had a great year with Ray Allen in that group,
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  Speaker 3: Scottie Burrell and all those people. We had a great
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  Speaker 3: prior to that, to Donielle Marshall years. You know, we
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  Speaker 3: could go through.
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  Speaker 1: All the but you know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 2: I wrote down all the players I could think of,
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  Speaker 2: and I got about shit, twenty thirty names here almost
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  Speaker 2: you know, almost all of them made the NBA. Like really,
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  Speaker 2: it's like from its inception. From when I look, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I kind of lucked out. And I started
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  Speaker 2: watching them right when they started doing well. But they
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  Speaker 2: didn't win a national championship till ninety nine. So that
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  Speaker 2: was ten years of you know, almost and you know,
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  Speaker 2: the biggest one that I mean, my right as I
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  Speaker 2: become a fan and now during that era, a little
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  Speaker 2: bit about myself is I'm an all Boston fan, so
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  Speaker 2: Red Sox, Celtics, Patriots. The Patriots were garbage. The Celtics
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  Speaker 2: had just come off. You know, they had bird and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Well, actually, maybe I shouldn't be here because I'm Yankee
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  Speaker 3: Giants and so oh geez, remember you're north to them South,
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  Speaker 3: that's right. Well, uh yeah, we're no where did you
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  Speaker 3: act it grows up? Oh? I grew up.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was born in Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's why, yeah, were used to.
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  Speaker 1: But are you from the Wallingford area?
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  Speaker 3: Right? Well, I grew up in Wallingford all my life.
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  Speaker 1: I thought everything north of like New Haven or Hartford
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  Speaker 1: area Mirrden is kind of the split.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, fair enough, but but I grew up
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  Speaker 3: in Wallingford, which was the giant Shanki's up with. But
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  Speaker 3: that's just going off the off the cuff.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and the couple of years you have on me
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  Speaker 2: when TV was the way it was back then. Patriots
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  Speaker 2: were never on TV. The Red Sox were terrible white TV. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that little one. Uh so, so my era, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Celtics were all I really knew as far as winning.
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  Speaker 2: So that became a big basketball fan because all my
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  Speaker 2: other sports didn't really win much. Uh But that Tate
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  Speaker 2: GEORGI hear with, you know, the full court pass from Burrell.
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  Speaker 3: And then the following and then the following game was
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  Speaker 3: later and the buzzer beater. Absolutely, I mean we did
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  Speaker 3: it to them and then they did it. What's the difference?
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  Speaker 3: I know?
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  Speaker 2: Uh So when so when did We'll get into the
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  Speaker 2: documentary in a minute, but when did when did Big
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  Speaker 2: Red become Big Red?
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  Speaker 1: When did that happen? Like when when you started the change.
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  Speaker 3: Cheer was it was developed in a really weird way.
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  Speaker 3: And what had happened was it was somewhere and I
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  Speaker 3: don't remember exactly, but it was I remember at the
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  Speaker 3: Civic Center when it actually first started. The way it
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  Speaker 3: started was the cheerleaders came out on the floor and
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  Speaker 3: they laid on the floor and spelt ukon okay, and
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  Speaker 3: they gotten and I'm sorry to say, they got no
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  Speaker 3: respect because they wanted the fans as I call them audience,
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  Speaker 3: to participate, and they didn't. So I got up in
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  Speaker 3: the and very loudly, I yelled at the top of
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  Speaker 3: my lungs and I had a very persistent voice at
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  Speaker 3: that time. And the next thing, you know, it was
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  Speaker 3: give me a you, give me a c give me
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  Speaker 3: an O, give me an en, give me an end.
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  Speaker 3: And then I yelled out, what's that spell? And then
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  Speaker 3: I said again and it came out again and it
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  Speaker 3: started again. And that was about two or three sections
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  Speaker 3: that were around me. It wasn't the whole arena like
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  Speaker 3: it is today.
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  Speaker 2: Right right right, everything has a grassroots start again.
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  Speaker 3: I did it one more time, and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: the ushers came out and they you know. They sent
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  Speaker 3: one of the security down said if you get up
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  Speaker 3: in the aisle again, you're gonna be tossed from the game.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, I swear to God, and everybody around me
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  Speaker 3: was yelling get a life to the security eyes. About
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  Speaker 3: ten minutes later, I get this tap on my shoulder
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know what her last name was, but
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  Speaker 3: I got to know her quite well. Her name was Diane.
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  Speaker 3: She was She was the tall, blonde woman that was
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  Speaker 3: the head of security. Very nice woman. And at that
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  Speaker 3: point she come down and she stood like on the
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  Speaker 3: stair behind me, at me on the shoulders. She says,
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  Speaker 3: are you the guy that's getting up in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of the stair and all my security guys. I says, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but I swear I'm not going to get up again.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be let out of the game
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  Speaker 3: because they were threatened to toss me out of the game.
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  Speaker 3: I says, I promise I won't get up again. She says, no,
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  Speaker 3: listen to me. It's not in disrespect. But don't worry
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  Speaker 3: about mys don't worry about my security guards. You just
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  Speaker 3: do whatever you have to do. And that's the way
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  Speaker 3: it actually started. The following game happened to be at
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  Speaker 3: the old fieldhouse, and when you walked in the front door,
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  Speaker 3: you'd walk like across the baseline and my seats were
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  Speaker 3: way up above the batting cages on the bleachers.
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  Speaker 2: Now these were season tickets back then, so yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they were up on the top of the bleachers.
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  Speaker 3: We were actually if you looked over the bleachers, we
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  Speaker 3: could see the batting cages behind the bleachers. We were
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  Speaker 3: so high that we used to when Florisa lights went off,
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  Speaker 3: we used to hang our coats on the Florisa lights,
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  Speaker 3: you know, during the winter ay bar room. Well, I
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  Speaker 3: was on a team that won a massive tournament game
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  Speaker 3: which was called Marten Athletic Amateur Softball Association, and we won,
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  Speaker 3: so we got jackets, and on my jacket I had
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  Speaker 3: my nickname Big Red. So as I walked from going
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  Speaker 3: into the arena or the fieldhouse, I had to walk
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  Speaker 3: across the baseline, and that's where the kids sat, was
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  Speaker 3: underneath the basket, and I guess they had seen my jacket.
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  Speaker 3: So we're standing up there in the first time outcoming
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  Speaker 3: on and Yukon was down a little bit, and all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden, my buddy said, I had turned around
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  Speaker 3: to talk to them, because they were sitting in the
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  Speaker 3: bleachers behind me, and all of a sudden said, look down,
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  Speaker 3: there there's some action going on. And I said, what
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  Speaker 3: do you mean. I turned around and there was all
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  Speaker 3: a kids pointing up to me, going like this with
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  Speaker 3: my finger, and they were all yelling red, Red, Red,
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  Speaker 3: and and I went like this. And when I went
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  Speaker 3: like this, which you know, it just kind of threw
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  Speaker 3: my hands in the air. The next thing, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it was you. So I looked at him and I
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  Speaker 3: went like this again, and they said.
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  Speaker 1: See.
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  Speaker 3: So the kids actually started the whole I mean I
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  Speaker 3: started it, but they were the one that portrayed it.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the way the story of Big Red started.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's funny, Like I I'm not a Jets fan,
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  Speaker 2: but I always think of Fireman Ed.
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  Speaker 1: Would have comes to chance like that? Were you were
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  Speaker 1: you before Fireman Ed?
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  Speaker 3: I believe I was.
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  Speaker 1: I would think you I.
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  Speaker 3: Got a little bit more. I really don't know, but
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  Speaker 3: that's not where it came from. I know that it
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  Speaker 3: was on my Oh no, no, I'm not. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know because I was never a Jets fan, even though
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: I said New York why would you be a Jets
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  Speaker 3: fan of me? Well, there are that are judgements I'm
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  Speaker 3: not gonna take away from Ah.
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  Speaker 1: They're like they're like, uh, you.
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  Speaker 3: Talk sports, you gotta think. Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: I go back that part.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, true true.
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  Speaker 2: So now it's now, it's become a little Now, now
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  Speaker 2: you're gaining steam with it.
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  Speaker 1: You're at every game, and.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel obligated to do it now or it's
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  Speaker 2: just comes so natural when because I watched some of
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  Speaker 2: it and you were you were basically saying, like you
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  Speaker 2: said with the cheerleaders were no, you know, they weren't
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  Speaker 2: doing their part, so you felt you needed to boost
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  Speaker 2: the crowd up. And so moving forward after that initial
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  Speaker 2: you know, now you got the fans involved, the Yukon
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  Speaker 2: students involved pointing to you now to hey, let's get
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  Speaker 2: this going.
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  Speaker 1: They're counting on you.
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  Speaker 3: To do it.
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  Speaker 2: Was there a little lapse and it just kind of
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  Speaker 2: didn't do it or it just it just kept going
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  Speaker 2: every game.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, there's two aspects of what you just Yeah. First
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  Speaker 3: aspects is I respect athletes for who they are. So
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  Speaker 3: if we're up twenty points, thirty points, unless I absolutely
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  Speaker 3: feel that I despite or despair who are playing against
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  Speaker 3: I won't disrespect those athletes by cheering. I actually waved
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  Speaker 3: my hands back and forth like this, like say no,
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  Speaker 3: it's not time, okay, And the fans tend to look
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  Speaker 3: for it every time, and that's not what it's there for.
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  Speaker 3: It's to enthuse the players into just giving them extra
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  Speaker 3: stamina to play ball. So there are that. That's one aspect.
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  Speaker 3: The other one if a player is injured or anything
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  Speaker 3: like that, I will not I don't care if it's
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  Speaker 3: I'm a very respectful person. And one thing is an
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  Speaker 3: athlete is an athlete, no matter who they are. The
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  Speaker 3: other thing is I won't disrespect an athlete because because
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  Speaker 3: they're twenty points down from us, they're still athletes, still
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  Speaker 3: trying their hardest, So why disrespect them?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree.
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  Speaker 3: So that's one aspect. The other aspect is it comes
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  Speaker 3: natural when I feel that they just need that little
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  Speaker 3: extra boost as far as the player, as Scotty said,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't want to go into the documentary like
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  Speaker 3: you said right now, but Scotty said it best. He
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  Speaker 3: was there when we needed him to shout, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: it just it's actually like a feeling it's an overwhelming
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  Speaker 3: feeling that I get. It says it's time to do it,
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  Speaker 3: and that's when I get up and do it. Now.
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  Speaker 1: It's your second nature to you.
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  Speaker 3: You just know, right. And it's funny because the fans
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  Speaker 3: want to do it just every single time, and that's
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  Speaker 3: not what it's there for. And that's what I try
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  Speaker 3: to explain. Are you sometimes like not yet? Not yet?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah? I wave my hands back and forth like no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: no ah, that's great, it's it's just not time. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you don't. I go back many years and there used
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  Speaker 3: to be a commercial I think it was for gallow
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  Speaker 3: Wines and they always said it's not time until it's prime.
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  Speaker 1: Oh is that?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: I remember the Bartles and James commercials back in the day,
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  Speaker 2: the two old guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Whatever, but it's not time.
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  Speaker 3: We could discuss that forever whoever was, but it goes
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  Speaker 3: back to my younger days when it it just came across.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that's my feelings. It's not time until it's prime.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll give you a quick story about that. It
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  Speaker 3: was really funny. Is one of the guys that we
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  Speaker 3: call my posse we were sitting in the old Madison
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: Square garden back during the Big East game, and in
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  Speaker 3: the garden, the lower sections were set in boxes. There
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: was like forty seats in a box and they would
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: be regular seats, but they you know, it wasn't box seats.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't call box seats. Whose sections. And we were
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  Speaker 3: sitting above baseline and the bar was a couple portals
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  Speaker 3: down and we were playing Pittsburgh. I'll never forget that game.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly the year or day, but we
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: were playing Pittsburgh and we were down like five points
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  Speaker 3: with about thirty seconds left to go, and my buddy
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  Speaker 3: kept saying, you gotta do it, you gotta do it,
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  Speaker 3: and he gets riding and I looked at him. I said, no,
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  Speaker 3: not yet, it's not time. And then after the first
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  Speaker 3: time out we got the ball, somebody come down hit
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  Speaker 3: a three pointer. Like I said back then, who knows me.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's not something to remember in my mind,
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  Speaker 3: but I but the one thing I do remember is
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: we're down too with about sixteen seconds left to go
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  Speaker 3: in the game, and we call time out. My buddy
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  Speaker 3: says guy. I says, no, not yet, George, wait till
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: the time out. So he got up and he says,
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: you don't know what you're doing. You don't know what
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  Speaker 3: you're doing. And he walked down and he went out
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  Speaker 3: to the bar with another guy who was uncomfortable in
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  Speaker 3: the seat, so he went out to the bar earlier,
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  Speaker 3: well after the time out. I did it just before
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  Speaker 3: the timeout was over, and it was a perfect timing.
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  Speaker 3: They get the ball back in, it goes down the court,
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  Speaker 3: goes around the backcourt a little bit, and then he
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  Speaker 3: gets past the Ray Ray hits a three pointer to
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  Speaker 3: win the game by one. My one of my posse,
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  Speaker 3: and I won't mention because it's it's confidential, but he
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  Speaker 3: comes walking back and he says, the show you know something,
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe everybody. I'll never ever ever doubt you again,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: right okay, And he says, but I still f n
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  Speaker 3: h because he wasn't there for the win. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he had walked outside. So that's that's so that's just
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: a quick story about the chair.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So what were I mean, Gosh, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, I was looking down at all these players
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  Speaker 2: in the years, and I mean, you know, it's what
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  Speaker 2: is it twenty twenty five?
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  Speaker 3: Now? I think I know where you're going with this question,
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  Speaker 3: and it's going to be a typical answer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I don't want you to pinpoint a player,
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  Speaker 2: but like I actually wanted. It's funny like I've had
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: guests on where you know they know certain people, and
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I always like to want to dig in, like, oh,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: like was that guy really a jerker?
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Was he? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: That's not what I'm asking you don't worry, but like,
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  Speaker 2: wh who are your favorite players that over the years,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Like you could say all of them and that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna get that answer for me right there. Okay,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: there is a I The way I feel about the
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Yukon team is I don't care if they're a Ray Allen,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: a Shabbaz Napier, Kimba Walker. Going back to with Donielle Marshall,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't care who they're They're all great players.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: And the reason I say that is even the walk
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Ons that were the practice players. Yeah, these guys had
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: to play as hard as they did to get them better.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: So every very very nice answer. All right, how about this,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: let me word.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: At this who not recently, not the recent players, say
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: in the last five ten years, the guys from the
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: late nineties two thousands. You're still in contact with some
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: of these guys, A lot of the guys.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I will say that last year, not last year, I'm sorry,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: the year before when we were in Boston. Yes, Christmas
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: come up to me and he talked to me, and.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: He hangs out in Milford.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, he hangs off all over. But I'm just saying
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: he comes up a couple of final fours that I
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: had gone to. There's been players like Donielle Donnie. Whenever
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: she's doing some sports casting, he'll walk over and say hello.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: You know he just the nets, right, he does the nets.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: He does a lot of Yukon games.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Well, no, I know, didn't he doesn't he do that
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the nets time.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: You can talk all you want about pro id pro
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: basketball is not a sport to me, Well, you realize
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: these Yukon I understand that you can't a Yukon fan.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I will watch on Pro sports every once in a while, yeah,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: just because they're a Yukon graduate. Well, as far as
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: pro sports, the sport of basketball is not the original
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Nasmith game. They can walk with the ballmember each other.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just not basketball. No, I mean, I'm
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: sorry to say that. No, that's my opinion.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: So I mean I grew up on the NBA because,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: you know, living in this area, there were really no
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: colleges like football wise, I understand until until Yukon came out.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: You know, New York had at Saint John's and Syracuse.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: But we've had one one real professional team and that
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: was the Whalers. And the big part is they made it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: And then the Fairweather fans of Connecticut. And I'm not
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: saying all fans, I'm saying fair Weather fans. They kind
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: of drove them out because when they lost, you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: when Gordie Howe uh retired and so forth and right
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: down the line, they got to be kind of a
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: negative team and we didn't go to games. So Birdie
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: moved them out of state, and look at what he's
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: done with them since, I mean, the Carolina hurrik answered
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: going nuts. So I want to come. You know, I
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: don't want to get off few guns, but I want
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: to let you know what I'm talking about as the
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: as far as the we had nothing but Yukon and
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: the state of CONNECTICU.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Now do you do you attend the women's games?
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I did for years. Yeah, then it became too not
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: only to I'm yeah, of course, I mean the price
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: of tickets went from thirty two dollars a season to
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: where I couldn't afford him any of it. You know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: it's bad enough trying to spend the money.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Wait, being big Red, they don't just say what being
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: big Red.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: You don't say what I've always said?
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: And you know where are your seats now?
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I sit? Well, they moved me this year because they
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: re arranged this seating in both pavilions. People's Bank is
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: revamping and where I sat behind the basket, which I
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: really loved because I could watch the play development and
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: for me, like I said, you could take half court
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: and it's it's a nice seat. But when you're sitting
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: behind the basket and you're watching the team go down
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: and you're trying to figure out what's in Prono's head,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: what's in Hurley's head, what's in the Gallowans aid? For
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: the play and you can see it developing, it's really
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: interesting if you know the game. So that was very good.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: But now they moved me to the corner at the
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Civic Center. I'm going to be in Belief Section one, twelve.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: It's either one eleven or one twelve they moved me to.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I haven't got my ticket hed, so I mean I've
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: watered them, but I don't know where exactly.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: In Gamble, I believe I'm still going to be somewhere
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: in section one thirteen in the corner there. So you
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: know that's those those swear basically. But as far as
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: I can remember, the days where I didn't have enough points,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: so I sat in the bleachers at Gamble, and believe me,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: the bleachers are tough on a big guy.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have a stadium now, yeah, I meanthing
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: so tiny?
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Now, well, yeah, they allowed your twenty one inches in
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: the bleacher seat, okay, And well that's not right, that's
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: not down there, you know what I'm saying. So I
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: always said that I had LC and C two. I
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: had two seats. Yeah, yeah, and I had LC and
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: C two. And everybody asked me what l C was
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: and I told them straight out left cheek because when
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: you put four or five guys my size in there,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: if you didn't sit down first, you didn't have a seat.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: So that and then I finally got enough points where
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: with a few extra donations and so forth we put in.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: They got me down to a steep back, which was
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: really great. I mean, that was much more comfortable to
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: watch a game.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Did you go to every Final four they were in?
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I have not missed the Final four?
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, I am jealous beyond I've been to.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I even went to the Detroit one when they lost. Yeah,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: and I've been to every I shouldn't say that. I've
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: missed seventeen home games since I started seventy three, okay,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: And somebody tried to figure it out and that put
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: me somewhere twelve hundred games in my years, okay, And
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: as far as I've been to, I think it's four
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: or five. I'm really not sure because, like I said,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I never counted it. That's not my thing. But I
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: think the five Sweet sixteenes. Wow. So I you know,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: it's just my sister, and this is part of the
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: documentary too, But my sister said it best. I had
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: a niche in my soul that says I got to
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: be there. So I just kept going and there would
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: be family functions, there would be holidays, there would be
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: whatever's evolved. And then my mother would say to me
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: years ago, when I was young, she'd say, you're really
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: not going to go up the weather is so bad.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: There's five inches of snow and it's slippery up And
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: before she could get anything else out, I was going.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: You know, my sister brought that up in the documentary
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: when they interviewed her, and it went a lot of ways.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: But to me, I don't know, it's just I enjoy it.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed what they do and when I couldn't see
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: them on TV years ago, because for for many years
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: early going back to the days of West Balastutania. I'm
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: trying to think of the other ones that were come
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: after him, because it's so far back, but they were
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: on WTNH TV. Yeah, and I used to watch all
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: those games.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that was I mean kind of when
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I started watching them and maybe you know, started becoming
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: national power. Eight was all carried him, almost all of them,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: if I can remember, correct, that's correct, until they made
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: the tournaments, uh, and then I can't, you know, there
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: was I'm trying to if I'm looking at the championship years,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I guess after.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Well, ninety nine was their first championship.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: In ninety nine oh four eleven, I'm.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Sorry, their first championship was actually.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Where they have an nit back and sixty two or something.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: No, they had one. I wasn't at the game. I
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: could tell you if you could somehow google it quickly. Yeah,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: the team was Jeff King. I'm trying to think phill
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Gamble because I can remember them sitting on top of
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: when they lowered the rim to take the net off,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: they were sitting on top of the backboard.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, I want to say nine. Oh, you know what
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: eighty eight is, right, because I think they won the
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: NIIT and that's what kind of launched them more into
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the national spotlight. But there was the tournament still then
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: though it was the NAT right right, but there was
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: still the NCAM right right right.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: But the funny part about that is I wasn't at
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: that game. And the reason for it was a very
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: close friend of mine who worked for the fire department.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: There was a junket that went to Las Vegas, and
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: I went on the junket with him because he was
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: looking for a partner to go with because it was
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: two men to a room. So I went out with them.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: And the funniest part about it is they were seven
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: to one shot and I don't gabble that often, but
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: I said, you know we're out here, I might as well.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: So I went to the book at Flamingo Guards, I'll
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: never forget this, and I put a ten dollars bill
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: on them, because ten dollars back then, I want sure,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: So I put ten dollars on them. And it was
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: only a three day junket. So after the tournament that
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: they won, we went back to collect before we had
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: to leave on a plane and they couldn't find my ticket,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: and I had the ticket, but they couldn't find it
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: in the bet in their computer. So they told me
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: that they wanted to take my ticket and they would
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: contact me, and I said, no, I'm keeping a ticket.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: You can do whatever you want, believe it or not.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I got a call that set from put Me in
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Go and said, we're so sorry about what had happened.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: We're going to offer here week stay in Bay at
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: the Garden, you know, luxury room whatever, and we're going
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: to send you the bet money in a check along
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: with a couple extra dollars. So I got to check.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: But I never took them up on their offer to
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: go back because I'd never been to Vegas again until Yukon.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Was there two years ago. But that's a funny story.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Because they couldn't find my bet for allows the seventy dollars.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I couldn't collect that. I had to wait for it
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: because I found out they'd send me a letter, and
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I should have kept a letter, but like I said,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: those are all collectible things. But I actually misplaced the
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: letter or threw it out or whatever happened. But the
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: reason I couldn't collect was I had the only winning
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: ticket Yukon for the nit at that book.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I had a similar story, different sport.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: But in two thousand and one, I was in Vegas
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: at the Mirage and I put ten dollars on the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Patriots to win the Super Bowl at like seventy five
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: to one and kind of forgot it was just in
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: my wallet. So that was Tom Brady's well, second year technically,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: but his first year, and they win the Super Bowl.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I'm super excited. It's my first championship for the Patriots.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And We're at a local bar at the mall over
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: here and.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a second. I go on my wallet.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, I got seven or fifty dollars.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: So long story short, I can either mail it in
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: and they, you know, they send me a check. I'm like,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: screw that, I'm going out to Vegas. I was in
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: my mid twenties at the time. So I fly out
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: to Vegas and I go to cash it out and
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: the lady looks at it and she's like, she starts
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: chuckling a little bit.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: She's like, I haven't.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Seen one of these yet.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: No one ever took the page.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, they might have taken the Patriots in the
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: super Bowl, but not at the beginning of the year,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: you know. So then I got my seven to fifty
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: and I went to blackjack table and I think I
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: lost it all in like ten hands. Yeah, we had
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: a good time. When you're twenty thirty years old, I
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: really like there.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Like I said, I could tell you stories about the
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine Championship. I happen to be out of work.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: I wanted to go in the worst way. I didn't
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: have the money to go. They wanted like twenty four
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars for the junket trip. I didn't have the
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: money to go, but I wanted to go in the
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: worst way. So that night, I was on a bowling team,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: went bowling and I said to the a bunch of
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: the guys around me. I said, you know, I had
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: a chance to go to the final four, but I
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: can't get a flight and it's too expensive. He says, Oh,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: my father had a flight from Wednesday to Wednesday and
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: he had a golf get gave you five rounds of
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: golf five days in the flight from Wednesday to Wednesday. Yeah,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I says, oh, Man, did he give it up? He
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: says no, they won't refund them. I said, well, do
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: you think he could swap it with me? At least
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: I'll have a flight down. So make a long story short,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: we called the airlines. We tried to swap it. They
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: wouldn't swap it because it was too close to the
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: day of travel, so they wouldn't accept the credit card.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: I happened to know a very nice guy in Meriden.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: His name was Sever and they owned Marden Travel agency.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: They told me at the airlines that if I could
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: go to a travel agency, they could book it. So
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I called up Edie Sever and I says, is mister Steph.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: He says, no, this is John, his's son. I said, oh, John,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: this is big rad. He says, oh, how can I
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: help it? He says, don't even worry about bringing the
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: money down to me. He says, you can bring it
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: back when you come. Whatever. He says, we could do
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: this for you. So that gave me my flight. Didn't
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: have any tickets, didn't have a car, didn't have a
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: place to stay, but I was going.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: So I didn't have money.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Well, I had very little, man, I mean, I had
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: my savings. So I actually made it work. I got
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: the flight, I took my money and I went down
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: and I knew a few I don't want to go
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: into it, but I knew some scalpers, and I made
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: some phone calls and I told him, you know that
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I've always bought tickets from you, but right now I'm
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: out of work. You know. I got a little bit
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: of cash and it worked, so I got tickets. So
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: that worked out well. The next thing was that a
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: car my buddy was coming down one of the posse.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Before it was the posse. He was coming down because
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: his brother was an attorney for Western Western Luxury Hotel Hotel,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: so he actually was coming down so he was going
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: to make the flight down. So he says, pick me
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: up at the airport. I said, with what he says, well,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I'll split the car with you. Even though I won't
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: take the car, you'll have the car. So I said,
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: that's great. So I made some phone calls and I
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: finally found a rental agent that had some cars and
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: it was called Ugly Duckling Rent the Wreck.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Oh jeez, what did you get?
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Well, I go down and I get on the lot
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: and there's like two nice, pretty nice cars and I
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: and then two that looked like they just came off
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: the wreckord. Okay, So I walked inside and I says,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm looking to rent a car, and they said, well,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: guess what we have? That one or that one? One
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: of them the bumper was hanging off, you know, had
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: mos grown off the doors. The other one was just
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: banged up real bad. So make a long story short,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I rented the car for five dollars a day. Oh wow.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: So I actually picked my buddy up at the airport.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: We went to the hotel and we left the car
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: with the ballet. Now this guy is dressed in white.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: All my guys and I pull up in this thing
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: and we valley park it. Well we actually it was
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: the same dame as the game. So we went to
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: dinner with these big shots from Weston. We were limoed
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: bus over to the It was a custom limbo bus
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: over to the game. And then when we came back,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I was supposed to meet them at a place called Fergie's.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget it. I walk out, I end up
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: on the stage with Joe, Tessitur, Tate, George. Oh yeah,
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: it's in one of the visits on YouTube. But I
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: led to cheer for about maybe a thousand people that
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: were fans that were at the desk in the outside
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: media area, and uh so that delayed me about an
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: hour getting back to Fergy's. Then I had a walk
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: probably a mile over to Fergie so I did. When
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: I got there, nobody told me that this was a
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: four tiered bar, a four story the high bar that
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: had outside bars too. So here I am looking for them,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: and there was no such thing as cell phones back
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: in nine so I'm looking for them. I can't find
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: him at all. They had left because they didn't know
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: where I was. You know that I didn't meet him,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: So they left and went back to hotel. So I'm
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: looking to get a taxi ride or whatever to get
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: back to the car. I finally ran into a fan
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: that was actually with his wife in Sarasota for vacation.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: He talked to his wife into letting him go to
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: the game. So he had a car, so he gave
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: me a ride back to the hotel. We pull up
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: to the hotel and I says, I'm looking for so
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: and so and and the bell captain says, I'm sorry.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: We don't let anybody into the building or pass the
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: the value after eleven o'clock, and this is about midnight.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: I said, well, I need to talk to this person.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: He was giving me a hard time. He would let
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: me through. He calls the front desk. Finally, front desk
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: called the room. The room they got me through. So
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: he says, oh, by the way, you don't have to
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: come get me tomorrow. Bring me to the airport. My
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: brother's taking care of it. I said fine. So I
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: said to the bell captain, I says, could I you know,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: could I get my car? They valeid it. So he
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: goes inside this room. It was all glass. Yeah. He
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: goes into the keys, grabs the keys, brings them out
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: to me and hands them to me. I looked at
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: him and I said, that's great. I says, but you know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: where's my car? You know it's valet. He says, well,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: you can get your car. I says, well, where is it?
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: How do I find it? He says, turn around? There
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: was this old clunker that was right in the valley area,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: underneath the sign that said the IP Parking. I was
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: just a hysterics. So that's one of the stories. But
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I did make it through that nineteen ninety nine season tournament,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: and of course it was just everything fell into place.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So you have to answer this one
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: of all six that you went to, which was your
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: first seven?
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Seven?
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: The lost one? They have six championships.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: No, well, yeah, they lost.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Final four, Right, that's what you're asking, right, all right? Fine,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: so out of the seven, which is yeah, which.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Was like favorite city wise experience?
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I mean that was pretty the experience of I mean
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: the first one was always I mean, that's always the first, right, Yeah,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: But without knowing that I had never had so much
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: fun in my entire life as I did in San
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Antonio in two thy fourty.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't say San Antonio.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: At the river walked the whole nine yards. I mean
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: we actually were going to play Georgia Tech and the
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: day of the game. We took a riverboat barge on
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: the river and floated through town and we went around
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: on the riverwalking. As we were on it, we went
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: by the Georgia Tech Pepper Rally that was at one
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: of the hotels, and they had these little, tiny, round,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: maybe three inch basketballs that were stamped with Georgia Tech's logo.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: And of course, and I mean this honestly, and that
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: was overwhelming because every one hundred yards we were doing
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: the cheer one way or another, and everybody on the
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: barge who found out I was going on this particular
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: barge at this time was a Yukon fan. They all
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: rented out seats on the barge, so it was a
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: complete Yukon by So we were doing the cheer all
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: the way through the river and we got to the
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: pepper Rally and they said, read, you gotta do it,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: you gotta do it. So I got up and I
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: did it, and right in front of the Pepper Rally,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, they came out of the
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: pepper ally and they were throwing these basketballs at the
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: There must have been five hundred of them floating around
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: in the river right around the march, you know, I
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: don't know if they ever got in trouble for it
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: or anything, but it was it was fun. It was
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: just it was it was a lot of fun. Yeah.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Who they beat that year?
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: George Tech in the final? No they be in the
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: final four? Was the Duke again? Was it? No? They
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: didn't beat.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Sorry for the pause.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I apologize, it's not coming to me. I can
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: almost see the team too. I'm going back to ninety
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: nine because that was Ohio State, but it was Georgia Tech. Yeah,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: it was George second final.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I got you offline, just stuck
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: to your guns. Well who are they playing the final
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: four that year?
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the first round. It was
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: a smaller school, I believe.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Oh was that the one that was Uh, I don't know. No,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: the Gonzaga was ninety nine, right, Yeah.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: That would have been the other time. That would have
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: been the other team. Yeah it was Gonzaga, Yeah, us
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Georgia Tech and I was it Michigan State. Maybe I'm
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: trying to think. Don't forget man, that that's that's like
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: twenty seven years ago.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I know, I can't remember the freaking last year's stuff.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I can't remember I used to be. I used to
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: be so good. I can't remember yesterday. I know I
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: used to be.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Able to pinpoint like every game, every play.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Like now it's like when.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: It's coming to one of those things where it's like
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I remember where I was when that happened. Like I
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: remember I was when Kemba Walker hit the three against
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Pitt in the Big East Tournament. I was in Strafford
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: at a Mexican restaurant with all my buddies, you know,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just weird things like that that I remember.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: We were talking the other day and I actually spoke
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: to this player after one of the games when we lost,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: he had lost. He was talking to his girlfriend at
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: the time in the hotel in Syracuse, and his name's
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: never brought up. It just isn't one of the big
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: names you think about. Sure, but the kid was a
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: superstar in my eyes because he played very, very well,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: and he was the nicest kid you ever want to met.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: He actually spent maybe fifteen or twenty minutes. Why his
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: girlfriend was there and they don't get much time together, right,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: but he actually spent fifteen or twenty minutes talking to
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: me and my buddy in Syracuse, and that's Karan Butler.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I mean you don't even think of his name when
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: you talk about the the NBA stars, you know, but
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: he was a superstar, superstar. I'm not I'm not bringing
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: him up because I'm noting him out, But I'm just
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: saying there's been people like that that we don't remember.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: You know, the Dove Hennefel. He played one year, but
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: he was a superstar. You know. You don't hear that name.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: The Rome Shepherd, another one Israelite, great guy, great kid.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: You don't hear those names. One of my faces Kalian Well,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Khalid KHALIDI you know, Khalid is Khalid. I mean he's
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: he's just a comedy, you know. I just love if
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: you have ever met him in real life, it's just
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: a whole different story.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I Mean, the only one I've really met met was
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Scottie and I.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Was a couple of years ago.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I was teamed up with him, uh you know golf, Yeah,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: and boys, he hit he was just about to get
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: a hit replacement and he hits the.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Ball a mile.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: And I had met him before he'd come into Stonebridge,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: the bar he worked at a couple of times just
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: you know, said hello, and but now I'm in the
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: cart with him for eighteen holes. You know that he
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: was a three star athlete, right, Oh yeah, well yeah, he's.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: A football, baseball and bat.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he has there's some like.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a Guinness Book of World Record,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: there's something where he was drafted in baseball. Correct, yeah,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: but I forget what the stat was because he asked me.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: He's like, you know what my I'm like, oh what,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: And he told me about I'll think of it. But
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: what a character.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's great, Oh my god. And we we were
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: down the Big East a few years ago and the
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: renovation of the front wasn't even close to being complete yet,
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: so they had like alley ways that would take you
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: in a maze to get out of Madison Square Garden
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: because it was all being renovated. So it was like
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: hallways quarters. And I hear this red, big red, big red.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: I had no clue who was yelling for me. He
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: could walk it over to me. I didn't even pick
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: up on it, you know. And I started talking with him,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: and he's and I said, Scotty, you mind if I
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: get a picture with you? And he said no, sure,
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: so he stood there with me. I got the picture
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: on my phone and I keep it. I mean, it's
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: a good reminder. But when they started taking it, everybody
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: came running over and it was like a photograph shoot
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: of me and Scottie. And then I asked if he
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: wouldn't mind taking a picture with me and my posse,
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: and he said no, sure, you know, and he just
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: told himself up for that, let's say fifteen minutes of fame,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: you know, of taking this shoot like and he was
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: just so pleasant about it, you know, I mean, to
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: take that kind of time out of his time, it's
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: you know, he's just a great guy. I mean, there's
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: no doubt I can't you know. He said. You have
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: to watch the documentary to hear what he said. I'm
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: not going to give you the but he was definitely
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: a key to our our system.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Well, let's get into the doc Obviously, right now it's
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: going through some copyright issues, but it should run.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be up and running about I was
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: told in about.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: A week, so it'll be on YouTube.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Well I'm not sure where it's going.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: It might be in a different spot. Well, you let
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: me know. And then I'll let my audience know.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, I will definitely text you and yeah, and I'm
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: gonna I do some Instagram posts and some Facebook post myself.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: If you want to follow me. I think it's under official.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Big Red Instagram.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Tom I'm on Facebook. Yeah.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: So how did this all?
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Did you know this was coming down the pipe? Or
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: who approached you?
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: It's actually a funny story because they came out with
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: the first documentary was on something called the Innovation of
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Connecticut and I was kind of rushed with it and
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: said we want you to be in a documentary called
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: the Innovation cant and I said, sure, yeah, why not?
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: So you know, so they came out and they gave
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: me the paperwork to sign and stuff that that it
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: was okay to video date me and so forth. Yeah,
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: a little waiver and uh, I actually my sister Jackie,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: who is a sweet art. Uh. I have two sisters
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: that are great people. But my sister Jackie let me
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: use their house to have the interview. So they came
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: down and they set up the lights and the cameras
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: and the you know, the umbrellas and all that stuff,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: and they sat me the cheer and they said, give
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: me a sound test. I did that and then they
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: started saying, we just want you to talk about you gun.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: So I did that first, and that actually became a
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: clip that they're using and sometimes in the oh, can't
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: even the word I want to orientation. Okay, it's like yeah,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: it's like it happened, thing about me saying how Yukon's
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: a grade school, you know, not only athletically but educationally
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: and so forth. And then they took probably about two
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: hours worth the questions that they kept throwing at me.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: So I thought nothing of it. That was in like
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: February of twenty twenty three. So then they called me
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: and they said, we want you to come up to
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: gamble and we want to see you at a game
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: and we'll take a few video clips. Okay, no problems.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: So now it's getting more. Now I'm down the Big
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: East and they want to film me going into the game.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: And I finally said that the producer director, his name
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: is Zelko. I said, Zelko, I don't understand this. I said,
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: you know, for a minute or a minute thirty in
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: a documentary, you're taking a an awful lot of film.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: He says, who tell you that? I says, I was
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: told that I'm going to be in the innovation of Connecticut.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: He says, no, no, no, he says, he's Serbian. So
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do this with his accidents best like.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: He says, no, no, no, no, you don't understand innovation Connecticut.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Different gig. He says, he says this you primary Big Red,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: And I said what And I really did that, you know,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: I was just shock, you know what was going on. Yeah,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: So he said no, no, this is going to be
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: documentary Big Red. And I said no, no, no, you
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: don't understand. I don't. I'm I'm not a star. The
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: star is the guy's not at the court. And I
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: try to, you know, but at that point he was
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: hired to do this documentary. I'm me And it's really
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: a shame because as and everybody says, it's humble whatever,
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: and it's not humble. It's me. I mean, I'm a
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: T shirt Jean's kind of guy. I don't look for
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: anything that I can't pay for, and I'm no better
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: than you or any other the sixteen, eighteen, twenty thousand
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: fans we have out there, So they want to put
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: me on that little bit of pelg pedestal because they
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: call it a legacy or a legend. I can't accept.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just it's hard for me to accept
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: because I'm just a normal kind of Joe, that's you know.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: I'm Tom Emory two hundred and sixty hours a week
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: and I'm Big Red three or six hours a week,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: you know, right, So under those conditions, it's very hard
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: for me to understand. Even I guess I understand it.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: I just can't comprehend it. It's the best way to
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: say it, and I don't know where to go with that.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: But I hope everybody understands that it's not I know
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: it's about me, but it's not about me. It's about
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Big Red, and Big Red is this fictitious character out
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: there that no, no, you know what I'm trying to
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: say it to. But yeah, it's very hard to excite you.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Uncomfortable watching it?
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Oh No, I thought they developed it very well because
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you like me.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I don't even listen to my podcast back because I
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: don't want to hear my voice like I'm strange like that.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Well, I think a lot of people are like that.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: But no, because they did they did the right job.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: With it. They didn't depict me for who I am. No,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not told my story.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, because you are so humble, You're like I,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: you know, I appreciate it.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: But well, like I said, I watched it. They had
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: a family viewing before they ever put it on any
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: kind of YouTube or anything. H Yeah, so I was
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: able to invite up to eighty people, a family of
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: friends to watch the original documentary. Oh okay, it was
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: very nice. I mean I didn't I wanted to see
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: it personally, just to make sure that I, you know,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: I wasn't put on a pedestal. And the way it
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: was done, I mean, it was done fabulously. This this gentleman, Zulchemer,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: I can't even pronounce his last name, but he was
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: so easy to work with. Yeah, I mean he just
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: said be natural, and that's what I was through this
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: whole thing. It was nothing that was staged. I mean,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: I there was one part where they, you know, Andrew
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Hurley was coming into the garden at the same time
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: I was, and I was getting interviewed, and she came
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: up behind me and actually like jumped on me and said,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: I'm so glad, and she you know, me not being
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: ambulatory like I used to be. I almost she almost
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: took me out. But but you know, then her kind
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: words said, and and you'll see the documentary, you know,
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: but you know, her kind words was, there would never
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: be a ukond of if there was Big Red, if
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: there wasn't Big Red. And that's where it relates properly,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: is they're probably correct, but it's Big Red. It's not
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: tom Memory. Yeah, if that makes any sense, it does
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: it does?
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I see where you're coming from in the OA.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: And and that's why I said, they really portrayed the
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: documentary very well that it doesn't come across that it's
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: it's me the person. It's me the legend, you know,
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: the thing behind the chair. You know, absolutely and one
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: of my big biggest pet peeves. And I if you're
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: ever around me at any of the games or anything,
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: kids will come up, Can I get a picture with you?
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Can I get your autograph? Whatever? And I install it
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: in them. I said, yeah, here's the deal. I'll give
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: you my autograph. I'll let you take a picture with me,
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: but if you get out of the line and you
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: don't get a good education, your father gets to delete
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: that picture and that's what I tell them. That's good,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: and then I make them do the picky nice and
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: and that relates to what I kind of portray is.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: I was a blue collar worker all my life. I
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: put in sweat, in tears many years. I don't want
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: to see these kids do that because I know what
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: it's like. So I want them go get a good
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: education so they can sit in an air conditioned office
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: and make guys like me work.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a whole nother conversation with today's generation. So
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: the last Yukon game I was at was three years ago.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: It was a gamble one of my couple. A lot
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: of my friends have season tickets. I get invited to
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: a lot. I just don't have the time to you know,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: you got to make the time pack. I understand that.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: I knew that was coming, but it was, yeah, three
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: years ago. It was the year they won their it
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: was the year they won twenty three. So they were
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: playing Providence. I'm sure you were there, And this happened
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: to be the first game that they started beer sales at.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Gam Yes, they had a two dollars miller LT night.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: There's a reason for that. But and.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: This is one of the funniest things I had.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: So I go in line, and now the lines to
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: the beer seem to be right where the lines to
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: the bathrooms are, and vice versa, and it's just an
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: absolute shit show.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: So I'm in line for about ten minutes and they
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: have either Miller light, which they're running out of, or
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: they have the big seltzers for like ten bucks a can.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: So a couple student kids are behind me, and we
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: just start shooting the shit, and I'm like, you know,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: what do you guys study? And one guy's a math
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: major or something, and we're just about to get up
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: there and he looks at me and he says, what
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: are you gonna get? I said, I'm gonna get two
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: of those Seltzers. He goes, Dude, for the price of
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: two of those seltzers, you can get twenty beers, but
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: he counts it on us. You get twenty beers. And
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: I go, and you're a half major. I could have
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: told you that in half a second. I go, but
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: I just can't. I don't drink beer. I can't stand it.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I've just never been a beer drinker. I'm fine with
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: my two plus I'm getting one for my buddy, So
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: just one on one.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: I don't need to buy ten beers.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: And right when I bought it, they literally ran out
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: of the miller of Light and these kids had to.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Go to another stand and wait in line again.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: And it just it was a I think, a good
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: idea at heart.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: But the two dollars beer specials is to get make
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: it a much roudier crowd.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, are they not juiced up enough?
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: That's on campus. It's you know, well you've seen You've
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: seen all the games, so I mean I get it.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Were you at that game?
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: I was. I haven't missed the game in the last
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: three years.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, So so so my friend, you know, Nate and
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Lauren that you know Lauren obviously.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I know they. I set up a kind
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: of a watch party at Buffalo Wings in Rocky Hill
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: or Weathersfield whatever it is.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: And I set it up on the web, you know.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: I put it on Facebook that we were going there,
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: took a picture of the front of the place, and
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: believe it or not, just Nate and a buddy came. Really,
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: but the four of us we had a ballast. Yeah yeah,
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean so talking about that, yeah, but
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: it was it was shied away. Then I made another
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: one at Sliders and Wallingford. I said, why drive all
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: the way up there where where I'm from? Right here,
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: right there? So I made another one there. We had
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: about maybe sixty people.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Oh good, yeah, I was Actually so when they won
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: two years ago, I was in Boston, just outside of
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Boston that Saturday night. It was at I.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Don't know, it was like a it's not a chain,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: but it's a chain up there. It's probably four or
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: five sports bar, and it was for actually Viva, who
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: sponsors the show, and it was like one hundred people there,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: and there was this girl, her name's Kelly, Kelly in Vegas.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: She's like a one of these online sports Yeah whatever,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Oh no, sorry, gambling people, you know, they give their insights.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: And I had bet on Yukon. So when you're in Connecticut,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: you can't bet on Yukon, right. So I happened to
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: be in Boston earlier that year, in like November, and
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: the odds on Yukon were like sixty five to one
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: at the time, and I bet them.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Like one hundred bucks.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: And so I'm there and I show her the bet
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: because now it's it's this is Saturday, so this is
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: the Final four game, and they're offering me a buy
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: out on the.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Fan duel lap and all this stuff.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: And she took my bet and posted it on Twitter
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: and took a screenshot of it. And I must, like,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: I don't have any Twitter presence, but that like she
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: like blew.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Up my phone.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: It didn't stop, Like I had to turn the notifications
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: off because this girl has like a million followers I have.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I through wundering.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: I just don't do Twitter with you.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: So I was like Jesus Christ and everyone's telling me
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: to sell it, sell it. I'm like, first of all,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: this is year two of this dinods Many dynasty.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: They've never not they didn't. They went twelve and oh
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: against the spread in those two years. They decimated the
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: local bookies because you can't you can't bet online in Connecticut.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: So that's where the bookies are starting to.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Take well again, I that's a touchy subject with me
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: because I I mean, I broke away from gambling, not completely,
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: not completely, but I go to the casino now and
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: then yeah yeah, but but I broke away from gambling.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: Because and the reason for it is I thought about
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: it for years and yeah, it's it's a sport of
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: its own or whatever you want to call it. That's fine,
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: but it's actually irritating to me because who knows and
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: and everything that's been talked about, the beat roses and
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: so forth. I mean, you know, it's thrown in and
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: that's one of the rein is as far as games.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: I just can't do that anymore, you know what I'm saying,
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: because you don't know really if it's going to change
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: the game in.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Any way, right, you can't.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: I used to joke with everybody when I when I
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: did gamble a little bit at a football game. You know,
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: I would say that, you know, come halftime, the guy
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: in the black coat would open it, but shack and
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: would say, better not happened second half? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: almost like the replacements when you know that the kicker
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: was going to do, uh, kick the ball and all
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: I got left up. Yeah, that kind of thing. So
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: it's gotten with us that.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: There's a thing going on now with the pictures from
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: the Cleveland, the picture from.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: The Cleveland, and that's what that's what I'm trying to say.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: To you. Yeah, and that's why I tend to shy
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: away from that subject.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Once you were able to do this on your phone.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: Absolutely and gamble.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: I actually I went on length a couple episodes ago
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: about the whole gambling thing. Now, I don't gamble. I'm
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: like you, I go, yeah, no, I'll put a couple
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: of futures in, but I kind of complete almost completely.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: But it's but that's my opinion. That's why. I mean,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: if you're gonna go down and play poker at the casino,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: or you're gonna play a slot machine, there's nothing that
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: can get hurt, and there's nothing that can change it
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: except for the people behind the scenes. Yeah, okay, but
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: when you talk about a game now, you're talking about
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: putting a human element in mind, and it's a much
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: different subject. Okay. And and that's the only wayson I
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: that's a discussion I don't like to get into.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Now, if you're eighteen year years old, Now, this is
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: what scares me about this generation is the accessibility to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: gamble and the fact that it's literally thrown in your face,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: like you can't watch Sports Center without them throwing out
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: some parlay bet or.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: You know this, and I understand it's it's it's it's hawful.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Well, let's face it, When I was eighteen, I could
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: go and hitchhike up to Yukon and I get picked
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: up by three different drivers. Okay, I would not even
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: think even my size and everything I've been through I
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: used to bounce for bars. I mean, I've been through
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of through them out my life. And I'm
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: not going to bragger or relate to it, but I've
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: been through a lot in my life and I've been
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: through a lot of different instances. When I was eighteen,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: they chiking up to Yukon would be a no brainer.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: I my size today, even without what I'm wearing right
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: now and so forth, I wouldn't even think about putting
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: my thumb out. Okay. So if that's a whole nother
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: realm of discussion about a child growing up in today's
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: society versus a child's and the thing I really tend
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: to I love to see these key kids get involved
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: in sports themselves because it does keep them off the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: street and away from the turmoil. I'm putting it that way.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: Turmoil it's out there today. So that's another conversation. Yeah,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: that's that's just a whole nother conversation when you get
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: to society today, because you got gambling, you got drugs,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: you got you know, just anything you want to say
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: and everything. You know, the Facebook, social media, I mean,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: that's it's gotten way out of it. And I have
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: a niece that's very, very close to me. Her two
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: sons are my grand nephews. Grand nephews, not nephews, and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: she won't allow them to be taped in any way,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: even if it's at a game or something. She'll take
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: pictures and she'll videotap them herself, but nothing goes social
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: matter of fact, none of them, her and her husband
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: do not have social media whatsoever. So, like I said,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: they're playing the old style game, the old fashioned way,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: which is a positive. But at the same time, you know,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: who knows if one of these kids will ever have
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: the ability to play in a professional sport, but they
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: never get seen because they don't believe in it. So
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: it's it's just another alleyways. So you can go on
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: and on and on with different things whatever you want
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: to discuss. But I mean, we could sit here and
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: discuss from when I was eighteen, which was nineteen seventy
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: three to you know, the nineteen nineties where or I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: should say eighties where there was disco involved and that
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: was in the whole nother realm. And then you know,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: you got into the hard rock era and then the
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: metal metallicas and that kind of stuff, and the Asbournes,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: which is the dark side. I mean, you know, so
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: you could it. Life is an expectency and it just
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: rolls on where it goes. We'll never know. I'm a
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: faith going man, so the only one, and in the
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: documentary has shows one instance where I was. I was
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: in a very bad car accident high school. I was
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: supposed to lose my life and I was brought back twice. Wow.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: I don't like to bring it up, but under those conditions,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: my belief is that somewhere, somehow there's a spirit or
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: whatever you want to say. And I'm not trying to
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: go into religion, but there's a higher up that kept
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: me here for a reason. My sister says it's because
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: of you guys, but if it is, it is. But
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: I just hope I'm with him someday. And you know,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: with what I've done, you.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, Well, I mean you just sitting here. Yeah,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: you see them A terrific person. I don't want to
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: say you had a crazy life, but man, you've had a.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: Life I've had. Like I said, I've been through a
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: lot of things in life and making it through and
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: I can't even you know, so many peopleeople have asked
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: me because I've told stories and different things that happened
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: and place I'd been, and they told me, why haven't
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: you written a book? Because I never kept any kind
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: of journal, and it would be I would be probably
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: starting on one story and for moving it into another
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: story that I didn't remember. So when it comes around
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: to those venues and that kind of.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Thing, Well, now you have the documentary, so now you
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: might be able to get some writers that can take
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: your stories.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I said, again, that's not for me.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to explain it, but that's not
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: for me. And and you know, I can't tell you
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: how many poster was What do you mean you pay
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: you for your tickets? And I have to explain I
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: do pay for my tickets, you know. I mean it's
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: because they think that I'm big read I get my
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: tickets for not I do pay for my tickets. Another
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: guy says, there should be a statue in front of
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: the place next to uski, you know what I mean,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: because this will never live it down And I said, well,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: you know, somewhere in the next twenty thirty years, it
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: may be somebody somebody else doing something else.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Do you have a protege right now?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: No. And there's one little guy that used to sit
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: across the aisle from me at the civic Center that
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: would get up on the other side. He never got
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: a camera or anything like that, but he always stood
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: up with me whenever I did it. He did. Yeah,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: And I can't go into names, but I know it
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: is his uncle is a patrol I think it's his
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: uncle that's a patrolman in the state of Connecticut, but
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: not for the state plaze. And his uncle is a
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: something else in a school teacher or something. So like
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: I said, And the other one he was once a
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: cheerleader on top of it, so he really they come
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: down and they visit me every year a couple of times,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: because you know, they used to sit right or cross,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: but because they wanted to get a couple more tickets,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: they moved upstairs. So they were actually they buy the
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: tickets that were right above me in the lower rows
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: so they could look over and see me. So those
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: are the things that make me happy, right, you know,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: when I can see a kid I and and the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: things that make me unhappy is when sometimes I get
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: somebody comes out looks about your agent says, oh, my
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: grandfather used to bring me to games when I was
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: a kid. Oh really, Oh yeah, I met you three
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: or four. You know, that was forty years you know,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: but but that happens, and it's funny. I mean, it's
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: you know, and they expect me to remember the issue.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: You know, I met you at such and such a
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: I had a gentleman the other day that says, oh,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: I met you at the Delhi back when you worked
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: in Southington. Oh really, yeah, okay, I remember that, you know.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I actually, actually I have a buddy that met
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: you in I think twenty three final for But I
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: don't know what's what's you were there?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: I forget what it is I was.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: I was in Boston, Boston, was Boston, brook Brooklyn, Boston, Vegas.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: He's like, he won't remember me, but we were there,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: and we were we were chatting in something, and I'm
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: like all right, cool, And then he's actually in your documentary.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: There's a there's a video, not him. He wasn't interviewed,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: but there's video.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: I think they were going down the tunnel and they
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: were like he was he saw himself standing on the side.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: I thought he might be the hot spass guy. No.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: No, Paul Vartalis, his whole family went to Yukon. They
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: actually had a Yukon day there for their whole family
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: For football. All right, let's finish on this. Let's do
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: what are so we're getting close.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: It's already August, so basketball is ramping up in a
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: couple of months.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: I've heard so much about this.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Team, so I would love to hear from you what
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: you've heard.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't want to say last year was a disappointment,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: but you just can't lose that many players in the
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: span of.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: Two Anybody tells me last year was a disappointment. I
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: don't talk to him anymore because that's not true. We
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: lost to a great Florida team on a couple of
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: mediocre calls. I was in rawly for that game. Yeah,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: I saw it happen, And like I said, there's questionable, sire. Okay,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say it was officiating. I'm not
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: saying there. I mean we had a bad shooting error
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: in the middle of it, you know, period where we
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: just couldn't hit a basket. I mean, but I don't
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: believe those kids didn't put their all into it. Let
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: me put it that way. Yeah, they left everything they
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: had on the on the table. And that's why I said,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: when somebody says that's disappointing, I'm sorry, I can't take that.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I no, no, you understand what absolutely yeah, I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: mean your your blood, sweat and tears with that team
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: and you.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: See them and you go all those kids put their
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: heart solo in tears, and you know.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: That's that's the thing with fandom though. It's like, all right,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: we want to in a row and I mean lose.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Oh well, what what the hell?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: It's like, you can't win every year.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: You can't win every game, right, especially there was one
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: instance that I talked, I happen to have a pretty
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: good report with necess early. Okay, we talk at games
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: and stuff. Well, she jumps on your back, well she
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: she in the documentary. Going back to the documentary, she
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: actually said there would be no Yuka on with our
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: big Red. So under those situations. Sure, Now I forgot
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: what I was going to say a minute ago. I
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: guess you could say that, you know, when a team
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: leaves that on the court, you can't say it's disappointing,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: No, So you know, and you started going, I mean
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: the mid eighties, so it's forty years and I've seen
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: I've seen the ups and downs and them. But I
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: like how you like your You look at the athlete
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: and the person that that athlete is, and and you know,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: you can look past the wins and losses and just
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: see the person getting an education.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: That's where I was going to go with you. Thank
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: you for bringing that. At one point I forgot what
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: game it was, but the team was having a bad
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: run and they were actually booing Hurley as a coach,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: and I was petrick. I mean, I was disgraceful. There
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: was just nothing I could How could you boo a
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: man that took you the two championships and has a
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: team that he's feeling and the recruiting that we had,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: you know, because they have one bad game again that
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: goes back to the Whalers or whatever you want. To say,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: Connecticut has always been no matter what, going back to
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: the new even night looks, they've been fear weather friends. Okay,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: and I'm sorry to say that, but there are many
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: of them, you know. And I know it's because I'm
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: so passionate about Yu Khan, because of the people I've met,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: because of the people I've known, the people I've talked
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: to and so forth, you know. So that's one of
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: the reasons I'm so passionate.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: What's our team looking like? Okay, well, Final four aspirations.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: Two years ago they asked me something and I said,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: this was the twenty three team. I said, look at
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: the team very closely, go down the lineup and tell
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: me any other any other college in the United States
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: that could actually field two starting lineups in D one schools? Right,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: and we could do that?
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, guess what that's coming again?
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: This that from what I've seen on YouTube tubes, postings
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: on facebooks about this kid Mullins, the commentators are saying
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: one and done. And what I've seen, mister Indiana is
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: definitely one and done from what I've seen. Do I
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: like that attitude? No? But the kid is that good.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, he could you could put him in the
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant, you could put him in the in the
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Ray Allen. I mean, you could really put this kid
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: in that kind of place. From what I've seen, again,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: we haven't put him up against college athletes. We've seen
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: him against high school athletes. Okay, all American games, that
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: kind of thing. But from what I've heard from the
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: outskirts of coaches and so forth, this kid is something
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: to watch. Not taking away from anything with Ferbye Reebe
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: and Melachai and the other guard we got in the portal,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: sure the Murray. Okay, we are now putting two starting
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: guards from other schools into our lineup. Yeah, they're not
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: sure right now? Who's going to be our point guard? Okay?
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: You could? You could put Mullins in like Liam was
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: last year, because he's he's tall, and I mean he's tall.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, how big is Mullins is?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: Like I think like six four six points, so he
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: could be like a Liam, you know what I'm saying,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: which brought down the wall many times last year. Yeah, okay,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: but we're also, like I said, this kid to Murray
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: from Georgia, what was the averaging like fourteen points? A game.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: Ye uh seven assists. I mean, uh you add that
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: to this team where you're gonna go. I mean, we
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: have four freshmen that could start for anybody, anybody in
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: the United States. Okay, we have Caravan, who got his
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: confidence back and is supposed to be looking from what
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: I talked just with a little discussion, he looks like
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: a bullish year. He put on a couple of pounds,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: not many, but a couple of pounds, and he's got
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: his you know, he's got his.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: He was already a solid rebounder, right but the defender.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: It was a shame what happened in that one game.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: And I'm not going to speak about it because it's
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: wrong to do. He lost his confidence a little bit
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: last year, and I think it's the best thing he
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: did was come back this year because he lost a
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: lot of stock last year. And now he's going to
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: be the leader. This kid. From what I understand, he
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: might be the best player on the team. And that's
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: hard to say when you got a terrorist Reid and
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: you know, Anna Murray commit to Murray and then we
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: didn't even talk about solo ball and and and uh
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean you could go on down the line.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: So I already said four freshmen and Caravan. That's five.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: The other sides Murray, the Murray solo, Stewart the other
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: guard that I just Melchi Smith and then I could
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: picture him right now. He played a lot of timeline.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: I can't help, but I'm just saying, you know, but
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: that's that's that's the other five that played probably at
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: least seven ten minutes a game. There's there's one more
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: player and I can't I can picture him and I
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: can't put him in my mind. But but like I said,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: this is what this team looks like this year. I
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: will say that Danny put together a gauntlet for these
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: kids to play this year. I mean, we're going.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: To play outside of the big schedule.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: We're gonna play nine teams before January first that could
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: be in the top twenty Jesus. I mean, just to
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: name a few. Texas, we have a scrimmage against Michigan State.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: We're playing Boston Boston College since they left us, which
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: was the best thing that ever happened because they fell apart.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: But we're still playing them. Okay, we have Texas Boston College.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: We have Byu, who has been in the tournament, what
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: the last five six years we're playing Oh I can't think.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: Oh we're playing Florida in a rematch and they could
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: be a number one team again, you know. I mean, uh,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: we're playing Saint John's. Were playing in Saint John's in December.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: I mean that's just five right, are gonna be good.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is that that lineup of games,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: I mean those are first class double A double and
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: n C Double A games. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: I mean their first class games, they're they're going to
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: be like national television games. You know.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: I always feel that's how you need to start the year.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, they got one or two, but.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: It has it hardens during I mean you can't.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: I mean but years ago we used to do games too, like.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: Fairfield years.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I'm going into a little bigger that
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: we used to have Central because how we we do
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: Scottie at Southern we do uh uh Sacred Heart because
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: of Pete Cellers, you know, I mean, you know those
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: were courtesy games basically what I'm saying, because they are
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: Division one but their yeah, their lower lower.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: But this this isn't amazing that you on Tree though
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: over the years.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: These guys are it's going. If you have any you know,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: if you have any other questions, I love to answer.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: What have I got?
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Let's finish on? Uh Well, I wanted to do the
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: chant when we before we finish you with me because.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: I've never thought I could do that at the end
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: close the show with the chat.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, Like.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: Just the way you're talking, You've seen so much and
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: you've been to all the big games. Uh, I guess
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: I would ask what what's your favorite? It doesn't have
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: to be a championship game, but what's your favorite like
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: game winning moment or just I'm.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: Going to make you laugh. I met this woman that
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: I can't believe this. I'm going to say this. She's
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: a bigger fan than I am. Okay, okay, and she
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: he listens to the podcast right now. So I'm going
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: to bring it up, not to mention any names, but
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: when I was trying to think of the fifth player
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: for that, she just texted me quickly he says, you
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: mean Ross. Okay? Nice? So so now you know exactly
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: I'm a fan she is. Yeah. I did want to
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: bring that up, but I thought I should.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: My brother listens live all the time, he'll still texting
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: me like, oh, you messed that.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: One up by though, because I didn't expect that at all,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: but I wanted to bring it. She she can name players,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: dance games. I mean, I've never ever talked to a
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: another fan that's so in depth as her.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Nice. That's awesome.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: So what's the moment the pick one, a game winning three,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: a big comeback, a championship game, a big East game.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: Mine?
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Mine is the Kemba Walker three against Pitt That was.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: I think mine, and and it wasn't the actual moment moment,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: but it was the over one third court Elemen shot
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: in ninety nine. The yeah, I mean he threw that
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: up from downtown and it went through.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: So oh, you know, another favorite movie was only because
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: it is one of the gains. This is where I was.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: I remember where I was when it happened. I was
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: in Orlando, Florida. We were pregaming before we were going
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: to it used to be called Pleasure Island now it's
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: like Downtown Disney or whatever. And we were just whacking
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: back a bottle of something that you know, college kids drank.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: And it was the Big East final.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: Ray Allen hit that little floater in the lane where
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: he seemed to hang forever, and I don't even know
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: if it's footing in the ground before he shot it up,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: and uh, he hit the bucket and we won the
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: We won the Big East Tournament.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: I'll give you a little background information about people that
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: sat around me for years.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: I was at a game about maybe ten twelve years ago,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: and this gentleman came up to me and he sat
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: behind me at the Civic Center for a good seven
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: eight nine years. And he had three daughters that he'd
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: bring to the games with them, and his wife and
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: three daughters. This is back when tickets were a little
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: less expensive. Yeah, And I saw him at a game
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: about maybe I would say maybe ten years ago, maybe
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: eleven years ago, and he came down to my seat
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: and he says, rad are you doing. I said, oh, John,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: how you doing? What's up? He says, I says, it's
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: been years since you sat behind me. He says, yeah,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: he says, gave my tickets up for a little while.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: He says I had some stuff up. And he says,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: I don't go to as many games anymore because I'm
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: tied into the family now and stuff. I'm really busy.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: I got a couple of grandchildren and they take up
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: my time, he says, But I got some news for you.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: I says, what's that? He says, you remember shean and
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: my daughter? I said, yeah, she says she married Rey Allen.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: Got sheannon knew me for years and years and years
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: and not knowing that she would ever marry Ray. We
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: had that story.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: So Jesus Shuttleworth.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: Whether she's a sure or not doesn't man. She was
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: just a great kid. But the family is a great
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: family too. I mean, like I said, John, I'm not
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: going to mention names. I don't want to go that way.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: But John is. He's he's actually in the documentary at
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: places too. But one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: And he's from state Connecticut son. But I had to
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: bring that up that that through the years, Here's a
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: girl that sat behind me for games after games after games,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: and then I find out she happened to marry Ray Allen.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: So that was a funny scenario. That's crazy.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good for her.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: They're living very happily in Florida and so forth.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Is that where the Ray is now? They're down there?
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I want says in Cape Coral. I think,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: or so that's what my mom is. I think somewhere
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: around there. Yeah, I don't know exactly because I don't
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: I've seen I've seen Ray one time. It's got to
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: spend about three minutes talking to him in Dallas when
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: they were in Dallas for the Final four. Yeah, he
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: was actually walking through the lounge bar area and headed
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: to he was going back with all the boys. Donnie Marshall,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: Donielle Marshall. I think Karan was there, if I'm not mistaken,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: there was. They had their own private little room at
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: the lounge. You know.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can take a lot of these schools,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: the big you know, the blue bloods. They call them
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: the Dukes in North Carolinas. I'm sorry, I mean I
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: wrote I was just rallying off names. And there are
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Jordan's of the UNC and and all
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: the great Duke players. But I mean, Yukon is put
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: together quite an ensemble of some of the greatest.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm biased to it. I was, you're biased
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: But it's amazing how many, yeah, how many of them
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: made the NBA rights you don't even really thinking. Yeah,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: and then you get the people like Corney Thompson's back
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: from the seventy I think he was seventy three, seventy
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: four to seventy five, seventy six or seventy seven whatever,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: what daddy were there where? He actually went to Italy
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: and he was so good they he got taken like
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: he got taken care of like a king over there.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know, so you know that's how good he was.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: But nobody ever saw it in our time.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: They have a friend that played at Yale.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: He went, he played overseas for like a good five
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: six years, won a championship over there, loved life, lived
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: it up, made good money. Like basketball is a global sport.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: If you don't play in the NBA, it doesn't matter.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: You can go play the other places.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: And I should I should have brought this girl that
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: I met down because she just texted me. He's in
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: Coral Gables. How Carl Gables, Like I said, if anybody.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: Well, you said Carl, I'm like, well, my mom was there,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: and I know they would like Cave Carls.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, pretty sleepy town. Like I said, that's so much,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, she's amazing, so uh And I won't.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: I'll leave her off for the resting session. But I
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: had to bring that up because she's very good.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: Well, thanks for all the assists. All right, well let's
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: wrap this up. You know again, I really appreciate you
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: coming down. Uh you didn't have to.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: It was it was my pleasure, yeah, honestly, and I
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: love the story.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on. I I can't thank
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: you enough for having me down.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: Good luck with I know you have the is the
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: you have some film festivals still coming up, right or then?
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: Actually we just we missed that notified that that's our
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: seventh award Mystic.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, So.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: I know it was. Uh, we took gold at the
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: International New York. We took silver at the Hollywood Film Festival.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: We took there was m Paris Milan. And then there's
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: one that's something about I don't have it in front
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: of me. It's it's called pop docs or something that
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: or whatever it was, but it it And that one
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: really hit me because I googled it because I didn't
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: understand it. And that one is not for content of
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: the movie itself. It's for content and how it will
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: move society forward.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: That's an honor.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that one. That one kind of if you google it,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: if you look at the postings on the web and
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: you looked up it's it's a special type of award,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: and uh yeah, she just kicked it up again. So
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: let's see if the impact DOC Awards impact. I told
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: you she's amazing, but that one really hit me hard.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: And then the last one we got posted was last Friday,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: and that was stick, which is a Connecticut awards. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: that way on. It's it's been, it's it's it's a
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: realm because I I can't, I can't put it. It's
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: what you know, you hear these people on TV. Oh,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: it's surreal. It's surreal. It's real. It really is. When
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: you get to this position, it is surreal. You know.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations, I mean it's thank you very much.
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  Speaker 3: But it was organic in this. I hope, I really
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  Speaker 3: hope that every fan it goes to you kind that
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  Speaker 3: has participated in in this experience. I'll put it that way,
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  Speaker 3: will take it as from my heart to the ears
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  Speaker 3: as why this was created and how it's developed, and
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  Speaker 3: they accept the ward as much as I do. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how else to explain it. But bottom line,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: I've said this a million times, and I'll say it forever.
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  Speaker 3: If there wasn't sixteen thousand fans out there that are
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: Yukon Blue lads, there would have never been a big
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  Speaker 3: red Okay. So I don't know how people want to
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  Speaker 3: accept me or accept that, because it's very hard to
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  Speaker 3: explain and exert from my soul to the sixteen thousand fans.
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  Speaker 3: But that's true honesty out of my heart, and that's
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  Speaker 3: where it comes from, no other place. Okay. On that note,
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  Speaker 3: I hope and I pray that everybody out there understands
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  Speaker 3: that if it wasn't for them, there would be no awards.
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  Speaker 3: So please accept the awards that I'm on your behalf,
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  Speaker 3: on my behalf for what you've participated in.
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  Speaker 1: That's great.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's the way I know. I love it. Let's
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  Speaker 3: end it on that as well. Yea, And now we
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  Speaker 3: gotta go. So this is it. I'll raise my arms
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  Speaker 3: and you do the chant just like at the stadium.
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  Speaker 3: That way, it's your voice and my mode.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus, Okay, you gotta So the way.
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  Speaker 3: I start this is like we raised my hand like
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  Speaker 3: this and you start going, and then I go.
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  Speaker 2: You see, oh, and and you can you can you.
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  Speaker 3: Can all right?
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Thanks being read. Appreciate it my pleasure, honestly,