Latest / Wicked Radio with Bill Adams / 7-1: No Dudes Allowed. Big Win For Women's Sports - But Is It Enough?
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Big, big win for women's sports. The common sense will
- 0:07Speaker 1: tell you I never should have gotten to this point.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Sometimes the Supreme Court gets it right, not with birthright citizenship,
- 0:13Speaker 1: but we're not talking about that today.
- 0:14Speaker 2: We'll get into that a later day, I guess maybe.
- 0:16Speaker 2: But let's take the win where we can get it.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Good for you, good for all the women, good for
- 0:19Speaker 1: women athletes, good for you know, just people of common
- 0:22Speaker 1: sense fighting for this whole thing. And the Supreme Court decided, yes,
- 0:26Speaker 1: biological dudes don't belong in women's locker rooms.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Did you ever think we'd get to a point.
- 0:31Speaker 1: In time where you actually had to take that case,
- 0:33Speaker 1: in that argument to the Supreme Court, the highest court
- 0:36Speaker 1: in the land. I didn't either, But here we are again.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Let's try to stay positive. Take the win where we
- 0:42Speaker 1: can get it. But here's the question, especially for you know,
- 0:46Speaker 1: and I'm not a I'm a girl dad, but not
- 0:48Speaker 1: of athletes, but I have girls so sensitive to me too.
- 0:52Speaker 2: But for the you know, this.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Is not completely a slam dunk pun intended victory quite yet.
- 0:59Speaker 1: There's still twenty three states that would allow a biological
- 1:02Speaker 1: dude in your daughter's locker room.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Is it enough?
- 1:05Speaker 1: It's a start, But what do you do if you're
- 1:07Speaker 1: in one of those other states? I will tell you,
- 1:10Speaker 1: and I'll kind of get to this in a couple
- 1:11Speaker 1: of minutes here. I'd move if it was that important
- 1:14Speaker 1: to me to my daughter, if this is their only
- 1:17Speaker 1: let's say, way out or a chance to get a
- 1:19Speaker 1: scholarship or stay safe, I'd move. Not everybody has the
- 1:24Speaker 1: ability to do that, but still, that's what it's come to. Anyway,
- 1:27Speaker 1: let's get into it. Thanks for finding me, I appreciate you.
- 1:29Speaker 1: We'll get radio live stream and replay. And by the way,
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- 1:48Speaker 2: Let's get right to it.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Let's go to ABC News with the official announcement. This
- 1:52Speaker 1: is one of those big decisions that came from the
- 1:53Speaker 1: Supreme Court yesterday. Again, it had to go to the
- 1:55Speaker 1: highest court in the land. I give credit to ABC
- 1:58Speaker 1: News for actually keeping it a pretty on the level
- 2:01Speaker 1: fair description of this win because other news outlets weren't
- 2:04Speaker 1: so good.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Here's what the say breaking news.
- 2:05Speaker 3: The Supreme Court is upholding state laws banning transgender athletes
- 2:09Speaker 3: from participating in girls' sports.
- 2:11Speaker 2: In the six to three decision.
- 2:12Speaker 3: Justice Brett Kavana says the Title nine and Constitution allow
- 2:16Speaker 3: sex based separation in athletics for fairness and safety.
- 2:19Speaker 1: AB's news leagal still six to three. There are still
- 2:23Speaker 1: three people Supreme Court justices a job for life, who
- 2:29Speaker 1: thought it's okay. But that's neither here nor there. Here's
- 2:31Speaker 1: where I congratulate ABC News because they actually kept it
- 2:34Speaker 1: on the level in their description of it, transgender athletes
- 2:37Speaker 1: that I can deal with. That's fine because other outlets,
- 2:41Speaker 1: including some of your favorites like CNN, MS now others,
- 2:45Speaker 1: the BBC, weren't so on the level where they described it.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Transgender women not allowed in locker rooms according to no,
- 2:54Speaker 1: that's your problem. Let's start right there first and foremost,
- 2:56Speaker 1: before anything, because that's a big part of how we
- 2:59Speaker 1: got to this nonsense is the description. This is where
- 3:01Speaker 1: words matter. They're not transgender women, their dudes. Let's call
- 3:07Speaker 1: a spade a spade and call it what it is
- 3:09Speaker 1: and get on the level, because this is where you
- 3:11Speaker 1: start to spin reality into something that it's not. So
- 3:14Speaker 1: you know who called out the BBC yesterday Another champion
- 3:16Speaker 1: for women's rights.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Jk Rowling. That's right, Harry Potter. Jk Rowling.
- 3:21Speaker 1: She's fun of this and she's she's got like fu
- 3:24Speaker 1: money where she doesn't have to worry about the pushback.
- 3:27Speaker 1: So good for her for actually doing that. But there
- 3:29Speaker 1: have been others now, a lot of these people the
- 3:32Speaker 1: names you know, because they've been thrust into the national spotlight,
- 3:34Speaker 1: and yes there's a political side to this where they
- 3:37Speaker 1: were kind of like boosted up by the Republicans for this.
- 3:40Speaker 1: One of those is Paula Scanlon. She was a swimmer
- 3:44Speaker 1: at you Penn, and she's become one of these people
- 3:47Speaker 1: that's a national voice for this. Didn't go into life
- 3:50Speaker 1: wanting to be this person, but she's accepted, she's fought
- 3:52Speaker 1: for It's what she said yesterday because she was involved
- 3:55Speaker 1: with directly one of the stories that brought this entire
- 3:59Speaker 1: insane ain't issue to the national forefront. Remember Leah Thomas,
- 4:03Speaker 1: the six foot four dude that was taking all those
- 4:06Speaker 1: women's swimming titles at the at the University of penn
- 4:08Speaker 1: and NCAA Division Ie swimmer. This lady, Paula Scanlon was
- 4:14Speaker 1: in a locker room with him a lot and their team.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Her coaches her school said, just put up with it,
- 4:22Speaker 1: and she didn't.
- 4:23Speaker 2: The good friend.
- 4:23Speaker 3: I was a summer at the University of Pennsylvania and
- 4:25Speaker 3: they allowed a six foot four tall man named Leah
- 4:27Speaker 3: Thomas to join my team, and in that I learned
- 4:30Speaker 3: that it felt unfair. Men and women are different. But really,
- 4:33Speaker 3: more than anything else, is that if we're going to
- 4:35Speaker 3: have women's sports, they're worth protecting. If we're going to
- 4:38Speaker 3: have a women's category, it needs to be defined, if
- 4:40Speaker 3: we're going to.
- 4:41Speaker 1: Have yes, And you know, she brings up a couple
- 4:43Speaker 1: of great points there. This is why she's so well
- 4:45Speaker 1: spoken on it and why she's actually someone to listen to.
- 4:47Speaker 1: She dealt with it directly, and this was the story
- 4:50Speaker 1: that brought this to the attention of most people. It
- 4:52Speaker 1: had been going on, it had been starting for a
- 4:55Speaker 1: long time, but the Lea Thomas story because it was
- 4:57Speaker 1: just such a stark, actual visual Some times it takes
- 5:00Speaker 1: a visual reminder for us to see how insane something is.
- 5:03Speaker 1: The six foot four dude Lea Thomas against all the
- 5:07Speaker 1: other swimmers. I mean, like, visually you could tell this
- 5:12Speaker 1: was completely unfair. But then she, Paula Scandler, went out
- 5:15Speaker 1: to tell the story about having being forced and no
- 5:20Speaker 1: one would listen to her being forced to be in
- 5:21Speaker 1: the locker room with that dude. That's what got the
- 5:24Speaker 1: national attention, where we said, ah uh, that doesn't seem right.
- 5:28Speaker 1: In fact, that seems absolutely completely insane. So that's what
- 5:32Speaker 1: brought the issue to the national level. But then you
- 5:34Speaker 1: had the politicians jumping in the pandering, ridiculous politicians, not
- 5:38Speaker 1: all of them Democrats, by the way, Let's be completely
- 5:41Speaker 1: fair here. There were some rhino Republicans doing the same thing,
- 5:43Speaker 1: but mostly Democrats like this guy just the other day,
- 5:48Speaker 1: Ed Marky, from my home state of Massachusetts, one of
- 5:50Speaker 1: the dumbest people ever to sit in Congress. And that's
- 5:54Speaker 1: saying a lot. I get it special Ed Marky here,
- 5:56Speaker 1: he was still pandering for this insane issue. Just the
- 6:00Speaker 1: other day before the Supreme Court decision.
- 6:02Speaker 4: On the last day of Pride month, the Supreme Court
- 6:04Speaker 4: just cleared the way for Trump and Maga Republicans to
- 6:08Speaker 4: discriminate against the trans community. This ruling is inhumane, it
- 6:13Speaker 4: is unjust, and it is completely.
- 6:17Speaker 1: What an absolute, complete pandering, lying moron. I mean truly,
- 6:23Speaker 1: I mean that's what you had on the other side.
- 6:25Speaker 1: But why did the politicians come out like that and
- 6:27Speaker 1: come on? Because people were starting to speak out, like
- 6:29Speaker 1: Paula Scanlan or another one that rose to national prominence
- 6:33Speaker 1: because of this entire thing, you know, again boosted up
- 6:37Speaker 1: by people. There was a political side to this is
- 6:39Speaker 1: Riley Gaines. So the fight went on back and forth
- 6:42Speaker 1: till we finally got the Supreme Court decision yesterday. She
- 6:45Speaker 1: did to her credit, she was another athlete Division one again,
- 6:49Speaker 1: a swimmer who was dealing with this crap. Well got
- 6:53Speaker 1: her reaction on this big win yesterday what she said.
- 6:55Speaker 5: I feel absolutely vindicated. I feel, of course excited, I
- 7:00Speaker 5: feel optimistic about the future. But I think the feeling
- 7:04Speaker 5: that I feel the most of is vindicated.
- 7:06Speaker 4: Right.
- 7:06Speaker 5: I think not just myself, but most people, especially those
- 7:11Speaker 5: with large platforms, who have taken the stance that MICHAELA
- 7:16Speaker 5: and Jin and myself have taken over the years, we
- 7:19Speaker 5: have been the target of some pretty horrific campaigns.
- 7:22Speaker 2: True.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Now let's just be honest here and let's be on
- 7:25Speaker 1: the level. Does she have that national front? And I
- 7:28Speaker 1: think she was sitting there in her studio and she
- 7:30Speaker 1: does a lot of media.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Does she have that platform if she hadn't been.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Kind of like boosted up by certain people with a
- 7:38Speaker 1: vested interest and making you No, it's true, but let's
- 7:40Speaker 1: give her credit because when you're part of that platform
- 7:43Speaker 1: and a national voice like paul A Scanlon Riley Gaines
- 7:46Speaker 1: took a lot of heat and a lot of attacks.
- 7:48Speaker 2: But she wasn't the only one.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Before we get into that, there were other people who
- 7:51Speaker 1: don't have that national platform, women athletes, girls who just
- 7:55Speaker 1: spoke out against it, and they were attacked too.
- 7:58Speaker 2: That's what got That's what me and sensed about this.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Just normal girl, normal high school even younger, some middle
- 8:06Speaker 1: school girls, athletes speaking out against this when they were
- 8:08Speaker 1: forced by their school district, or their team, or their
- 8:10Speaker 1: community or whatever it is to just put up with
- 8:13Speaker 1: the boys pretending to be girls in the locker room.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Just put up with it. You're gonna have you're you're
- 8:18Speaker 2: homophobic or you're transphobic. No they're not.
- 8:20Speaker 1: They just wanted safety. Those are the ones we need
- 8:23Speaker 1: to stand up for. But again, they didn't.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Have the national platform. How about this girl.
- 8:29Speaker 1: This, This is the kind of attack that happened by
- 8:31Speaker 1: an organized mob that went after people who are just
- 8:35Speaker 1: trying to have common sense in the entire issue, and
- 8:38Speaker 1: no one would listen to her.
- 8:39Speaker 2: Listen to this girls story.
- 8:40Speaker 6: I am Zella for I'm seventeen, I do long jump,
- 8:42Speaker 6: I played volleyball, and I go to school in New Richmond, Wisconsin.
- 8:45Speaker 6: When my school led a biological mail into the girl's
- 8:48Speaker 6: bestroom without telling the parents, I went to the school
- 8:51Speaker 6: board with my name in touched in my own town.
- 8:54Speaker 6: I got bullied for it, harassed online, and some of
- 8:56Speaker 6: the teachers even encouraged the harassment. And the student. Yes,
- 9:00Speaker 6: I'm still here because here's what I know. The net
- 9:04Speaker 6: and women's volleyball is set nearly a foot lower with
- 9:06Speaker 6: the reason iological mail could hit a volleyball across that
- 9:09Speaker 6: net with force that could seriously injure a girl in chack.
- 9:13Speaker 6: All it takes is three biological males entering the women's
- 9:15Speaker 6: category and not a single girl will stand on the podium.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Is she wrong?
- 9:20Speaker 1: I mean, do you have any reason to not believe her,
- 9:23Speaker 1: to think she's lying about this? There's just a normal
- 9:25Speaker 1: person that doesn't have the platform of like Paula Scandlin
- 9:27Speaker 1: or Riley Gaines that's gained prominence throughout.
- 9:29Speaker 2: This whole issue. She's just a kid that I think
- 9:33Speaker 2: she said Wisconsin, that just spoke up. And what happened.
- 9:36Speaker 1: She was doxed by a mob not just in her
- 9:40Speaker 1: own community that started there, but the entire country. She
- 9:44Speaker 1: was called every name in the book. They attacked her
- 9:46Speaker 1: family over this. Why think about why? Because she didn't
- 9:50Speaker 1: want to compete against boys and she didn't want them
- 9:52Speaker 1: in her locker room. This is the level of insanity.
- 9:55Speaker 2: That we dealt with.
- 9:56Speaker 1: That's the level of craziness. That's why it's so important
- 10:00Speaker 1: that they got such a big win yesterday. But it's
- 10:04Speaker 1: only a start. That's what you got to keep in mind.
- 10:06Speaker 1: All the headlines will tell you that it's like no
- 10:08Speaker 1: boys and girls locker rooms.
- 10:09Speaker 2: Yeah, big thing.
- 10:10Speaker 1: You have to keep up the fight, which is why
- 10:12Speaker 1: people like that are still fighting. There's still twenty three
- 10:15Speaker 1: states that will allow this crap. The number is going
- 10:18Speaker 1: to go down because now there's a legal precedent for it.
- 10:20Speaker 2: But what about the other states? What do you do?
- 10:22Speaker 1: Back to paul A Scanlin for a second, because she
- 10:24Speaker 1: made a great point about this. The fight's not over
- 10:27Speaker 1: for them.
- 10:27Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's a great win, but absolutely what
- 10:30Speaker 3: I just heard is more work needs to be done.
- 10:32Speaker 3: We need to see protections in all fifty states in
- 10:34Speaker 3: this country. Why should a girl in Texas have different
- 10:36Speaker 3: rights than a girl in Connecticut or in New York.
- 10:39Speaker 3: And that's exactly what we're seeing here. And it's disappointing
- 10:41Speaker 3: also to learn that it's not nine zero. That was
- 10:45Speaker 3: something that I'm upset about. But I will say I
- 10:47Speaker 3: take this win. And this is now giving Congress the
- 10:50Speaker 3: right to say, hey, the Supreme Court agrees with you,
- 10:52Speaker 3: let's pass legislation and make this national rule that men
- 10:56Speaker 3: do not belong in women's sports.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Good idea, Can you should you? Well, that's going to
- 11:00Speaker 1: be an even bigger fight. Oh no, there's still the
- 11:02Speaker 1: lunatics will fight you over this one. It's insane that
- 11:05Speaker 1: it got to this point. But like she said, and
- 11:06Speaker 1: she makes another good point, let's take the win as
- 11:09Speaker 1: a win, but it leaves the question, and this is
- 11:12Speaker 1: where normal people.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Are involved with this fight too, what do you do?
- 11:17Speaker 1: What do you do if you're in one of those
- 11:19Speaker 1: states and in The background of the story is in
- 11:21Speaker 1: the Supreme Court fight. It was based out of an
- 11:23Speaker 1: argument in West Virginia taken on the Supreme Court to
- 11:25Speaker 1: allow this that West Virginia and all other states have
- 11:28Speaker 1: the right if they want to to keep biological men
- 11:32Speaker 1: out of women's sports and women's locker rooms. I think
- 11:34Speaker 1: it's funny. I think it's ironic anyway, that it's coming
- 11:36Speaker 1: from West Virginia. We know that state, beautiful state, but
- 11:40Speaker 1: there's a lot of poor communities. Can't you imagine that's
- 11:43Speaker 1: not the only state like this, But can't you imagine
- 11:44Speaker 1: that for a lot of girls, that's their only opportunity
- 11:47Speaker 1: to get a scholarship, right, they're only way out. I'd
- 11:50Speaker 1: say they're in some mining town. But they're a great
- 11:52Speaker 1: volleyball player or soccer player. But competing against boys who
- 11:57Speaker 1: were taking their scholarships, you should think that, don't you
- 12:00Speaker 1: think they deserve that fair shot? Are not even not
- 12:03Speaker 1: even getting in the safety level. Why should a six
- 12:05Speaker 1: foot four dude like Paula Scanlon's story, Why should Leah
- 12:09Speaker 1: Thomas be naked in front of her when when she
- 12:12Speaker 1: worked her whole life to get a scholarship to U
- 12:14Speaker 1: Penn it's not fair and it's not right. But the
- 12:17Speaker 1: really unfair part is anybody that spoke out against this
- 12:20Speaker 1: was severely attacked and doxed, it, called every name of
- 12:24Speaker 1: the book, and lost opportunities in lost scholarship. You don't
- 12:26Speaker 1: believe me this should go for a quick search right
- 12:28Speaker 1: now and find out and you can go to chat, GPT,
- 12:31Speaker 1: you can go to Google. I went to grock, whatever
- 12:33Speaker 1: you want to do. What are some examples of female
- 12:36Speaker 1: athletes either being cheated or injured by male athletes? We
- 12:41Speaker 1: all talked about Leah Thomas right as a male became
- 12:44Speaker 1: number one in women's NC two, a five hundred yard
- 12:46Speaker 1: freestyle swimmer.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Competing against women as a male couldn't do anything. We
- 12:54Speaker 2: all know that c. C.
- 12:56Speaker 1: Telfer Track and Field competed mediocrity is a male after
- 13:02Speaker 1: transitioning one the twenty nineteen n C two A Division
- 13:06Speaker 1: one women's four hundred meter hurdle Right Connecticut track two
- 13:10Speaker 1: transgender athletes won fifteen plus state girls titles. Part of
- 13:15Speaker 1: stats Reports document nine hundred plus medals lost by female
- 13:20Speaker 1: athletes to transgender competitors across four hundred events and twenty
- 13:24Speaker 1: nine sports. Okay, plus the injury thing. I could show you,
- 13:28Speaker 1: but I'm not going to the horrific videos of female
- 13:33Speaker 1: wrestlers in Texas that were just getting beaten by boys
- 13:36Speaker 1: on the mat. Let's say raises the question too, what
- 13:38Speaker 1: kind of a gutless individual are you that you would
- 13:42Speaker 1: take a win and gloat about it competing against a girl.
- 13:45Speaker 2: I mean, it just used to be a thing.
- 13:47Speaker 1: It used to be a thing when we had a
- 13:48Speaker 1: common sense world that you don't do you don't you
- 13:51Speaker 1: don't hit women, you don't compete against them. You know,
- 13:53Speaker 1: you respect them, you know, apparently not in the transgender community.
- 13:57Speaker 1: So this is a big winning we should take it.
- 13:58Speaker 1: But what do you go from there? What if if
- 14:00Speaker 1: you are stuck in one of those states that doesn't
- 14:02Speaker 1: have this yet or will never comply because there will
- 14:05Speaker 1: be a few I mean, it's gonna be less and less.
- 14:06Speaker 1: But I can imagine California, maybe New York, maybe somebody
- 14:09Speaker 1: like Michigan still allowing males to compete against them being
- 14:14Speaker 1: women's locker rooms. Well, I would tell you not everybody
- 14:18Speaker 1: has the opportunity to do this. But if this is
- 14:20Speaker 1: my daughter's only chance to either stay safe or get
- 14:23Speaker 1: an opportunity to move beyond. We know there's plenty of
- 14:25Speaker 1: women this is their only shot at going to college.
- 14:27Speaker 1: There's plenty of girls like that to get a scholarship
- 14:29Speaker 1: and get a free ride and make it if they've
- 14:31Speaker 1: worked their whole life at it. No matter what sport
- 14:32Speaker 1: you're talking about, I'd move. Not everybody can do that,
- 14:36Speaker 1: but I really would. If it was that important to
- 14:39Speaker 1: my daughter, if she was an athlete, or if it
- 14:41Speaker 1: was that you know, critical, because she was being harassed
- 14:44Speaker 1: for speaking out against this nonsense, I'd move.
- 14:48Speaker 2: But not everybody can. But not there yet.
- 14:51Speaker 1: But a tremendous, tremendous win for female athletes. Good Sometimes
- 14:55Speaker 1: sometimes common sense prevails, not always, Hello, Supreme Court, but
- 14:59Speaker 1: some So let's take the win and keep pushing forward.
- 15:01Speaker 2: And it's you know, by the way, if you're not.
- 15:04Speaker 1: A sibling or a dad or a friend of a
- 15:09Speaker 1: female athlete, you know, fighting against this kind of crap,
- 15:11Speaker 1: like I'm not either, still up to us to fight
- 15:14Speaker 1: for their rights too, because this is just insanity, just
- 15:17Speaker 1: absolutely and.
- 15:18Speaker 2: It never should have gotten to this point, but it didn't.
- 15:19Speaker 2: They won, so good, good for them.
- 15:21Speaker 1: All right, take the win from midweek where where it
- 15:24Speaker 1: stands and hope for more wins tomorrow.
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