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- 0:00There's a battle raging in Bitcoin right now.
- 0:02If you're listening to this, you may be caught in the middle of
- 0:05it and not even know it. I'm curious what your thoughts
- 0:07are on core versus knots. Ordinarily I would agree that
- 0:11you can't really spam Bitcoin if as long as you're paying a fee
- 0:16then it's a transaction. But it gets more complicated
- 0:20because Bitcoin Core has seemingly started removing
- 0:23roadblocks to spam. You may have heard about Bitcoin
- 0:26core versus knots, a debate that's been gaining traction in
- 0:29the last few months, and this battle has many Bitcoin holders
- 0:33worried about the future of what Bitcoin may be today.
- 0:35I want to break down what that debate is from a completely
- 0:38non-technical standpoint. I'm not very good at technical
- 0:42stuff. And I also want to share some
- 0:43information with you that was just revealed that may change
- 0:47the way people use Bitcoin forever.
- 0:48Emotions. This is beyond Bitcoin.
- 0:50You're not going to want to miss this one.
- 0:57I don't think people appreciate how much they've harmed their
- 1:00own cause on the core side by talking to everybody else to by
- 1:05talking down to everybody else. You know, and I'm not gonna use
- 1:07the language that's used on the, on the those spaces in, in those
- 1:12discussions. But it doesn't.
- 1:14No it it isn't advancing the cause of the creating consensus
- 1:18or winning over supporters. First off, for those of you who
- 1:21are not familiar, what the heck is the knots versus Bitcoin core
- 1:25debate? Currently, there are two schools
- 1:26of thought when it comes to Bitcoin.
- 1:28The first being Bitcoin as an unsensible medium of information
- 1:32exchange and 2nd, Bitcoin is money.
- 1:34Period. Now, sure, while we all agree
- 1:36that Bitcoin should probably be both of these things, this
- 1:38category, the unsensible medium of information exchange, comes
- 1:42with the big monkey on its back. You see the monkey on the back?
- 1:46I sort of put a little JPEG there, you know, to illustrate
- 1:49the point. Think about it.
- 1:50Since SegWit and Taproot updates to Bitcoin, other subjects that
- 1:54go way above my head, users have been able to tie additional data
- 1:57to transactions. This means that users suddenly
- 2:00had the ability to attach a JPG or a note or a GIF.
- 2:03Anyway, you can attach a number of different types of data to
- 2:06the blockchain. Isn't that like an ordinal or
- 2:08something? Yes, it is an ordinary ordinal.
- 2:10O. This sarked an entire community
- 2:12that was able to create NFTS that were tied to a single set
- 2:17on the blockchain. Each ordinal is inscribed into a
- 2:20single satoshi on the Bitcoin network.
- 2:23That's actually a bit of a misnomer because each satoshi
- 2:26already has an ordinal that describes its place in the
- 2:29blockchain. Now this means that each ordinal
- 2:31has a date and a unique identifier and the data, whether
- 2:35it be an image, a message or just gibberish, can be inscribed
- 2:40into the data area of the satoshi.
- 2:42Now, let me clarify that these GIFs, Jpegs, or notes don't
- 2:46exist on the blockchain. It's not like minors are
- 2:49stuffing memes into their transactions and broadcasting
- 2:52them. Rather, it allows an opportunity
- 2:54for a user to attach additional data to the blockchain, and that
- 2:59additional data is then tied to one of these NFTS or Jpegs
- 3:05inscriptions on some kind of Ordinal Explorer.
- 3:08So you'd have to go to an additional website or third
- 3:11party app to be able to actually see what is inscribed on these
- 3:15sats. It's like putting a little tag
- 3:18on a SAT. So why am I explaining all this?
- 3:20Well, this is what sums up the current state of Bitcoin court.
- 3:23Whether you like it or not, the sats you save on a daily basis
- 3:25could have graffiti attached to them on some kind of third party
- 3:29app. As you can imagine, this SAT
- 3:31scratch doesn't sit well with everyone.
- 3:33In fact, there's an entire community that wishes to prune
- 3:36their nodes, which is to only allow financial transactions on
- 3:40the Bitcoin blockchain. And this is what's referred to
- 3:43as the Knots Camp. A valid effort, terrible logo,
- 3:46but this Knots Camp is not going to recognize your dirty NFTS.
- 3:50Spam is something you don't want, right?
- 3:52Like if you make a comparison to e-mail, what is spam e-mail?
- 3:56It's like unsolicited e-mail that just comes to you that you
- 3:59probably don't want, right? And I don't think there's a
- 4:02direct one to one comparison for Bitcoin spam to anything else in
- 4:06the world because there's really nothing else like Bitcoin.
- 4:09So you can't really directly compare it to e-mail spam, mail
- 4:13spam, physical mail spam, maybe, but it's still like not
- 4:16perfectly one to one example. But I would say, yes, there is
- 4:19spam. And this is a whole other
- 4:21dimension to the whole debate, which is some core supporters
- 4:25are saying there's no such thing as spam because the spammers
- 4:29paid a fee. But then going back to the
- 4:31imperfect example, the guy that's spamming your e-mail also
- 4:35paid for his Internet connection.
- 4:36That doesn't necessarily mean that you want to get that right.
- 4:39Their school of thought is let's keep the network clean and free
- 4:42of any trashy data. And I do mean trashy.
- 4:45So what's the deal? Why not just run a version of
- 4:48Bitcoin on your own personal node and let bygones be bygones?
- 4:51And this is where another fracture exists.
- 4:54Because coming in as early as this October, there will be a
- 4:58new Bitcoin Core version release, version 30.
- 5:01It's coming for you this October.
- 5:04Bitcoin version 30. Scary.
- 5:09This apparently is a major upgrade to the network, where
- 5:12the most significant change is the removal of the 80 byte limit
- 5:15on off return transactions which embed data on the blockchain.
- 5:19OK, so you're removing the 80 byte limit again.
- 5:22What's the big deal? What the heck does that mean?
- 5:24Bitcoin Core version 30 is being released in about a month and in
- 5:28this video I'm going to explain why I'm not upgrading.
- 5:32The first reason is the deprecation of the data carrier
- 5:35size option. The argument for deprecation is
- 5:38premised on the idea that this particular filter has no effect.
- 5:42Though couched in technical terms, the argument is
- 5:44ultimately an economic claim that unseen effects do not
- 5:47exist. The second reason is that data
- 5:50carrier size option now defaults to 100,000 bytes.
- 5:55The argument for this is based on the idea that bumping it to
- 5:58160 bytes would necessitate another pull request and if
- 6:02bumped to a number lower than 100,000, yet another pull
- 6:05request. In other words, the decision is
- 6:07based on administrative or political reasons and not
- 6:10technical reasons. I believe this opens the
- 6:13floodgates way too soon and is again premised on an unfounded
- 6:17economic claim. The third reason is that the
- 6:20minimum transaction fee has been changed from 0.1 sets per V
- 6:24byte, down from one set per V byte.
- 6:26This is a transaction filter that demonstrably prevented
- 6:29Maripool, among others, from adding more spam to the
- 6:31blockchain due to orphan risk. I believe this to be a
- 6:34completely unnecessary thing for both the miner and user.
- 6:38The decision to remove the OP return size limit has drawn
- 6:41criticism from purists who worry that it may encourage non
- 6:44financial data or spam to be stored on the blockchain,
- 6:48potentially compromising Bitcoins identity as a system of
- 6:51peer-to-peer electronic cash. Now this movement is being
- 6:55steered by Ocean Miner CTO Luke Dasher, and he's been adamant
- 6:59about rejecting the new core update and having users switch
- 7:03to knots. So if you're not an X, this is
- 7:06the real upset right now. Do we want Bitcoin to be an
- 7:08unsensible medium of information exchange, or do we want to limit
- 7:12the network to financial transactions only?
- 7:15I am interested in this. I actually would like to know
- 7:17what you think of the comments below.
- 7:19Even though most of you are not spammers, aren't you spamming my
- 7:23comments with your Nazi stuff? This has caused somewhat of a
- 7:27bifurcation in the community, where accounts are slinging
- 7:29memes and slangs at each other, all of which are offering up
- 7:33their two sets and reasons why to stick to core or ditch it for
- 7:37knots. Don't you just love when someone
- 7:39who's completely unqualified to talk about a subject makes a
- 7:42video about it on YouTube? By the way, knots and core
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- 8:12thatssat123.com Now there's another account that you may not
- 8:16have heard of that is milking this debate for some great
- 8:18comedy, and that's the Bitcoin Bugle.
- 8:21The one piece of advice that I do have in this episode, you got
- 8:24to follow these guys. You got to follow the bugle.
- 8:27Richard Greaser and Rod Palmer have.
- 8:30Richard Greaser and Rod Palmer have their finger on the pulse
- 8:34of what's going on in the Bitcoin community.
- 8:36And the same time they are managed to troll it like nobody
- 8:40else can do. The Bugle offers insights and
- 8:43actually great technical perspectives on this whole
- 8:46debate, and they do it with satire.
- 8:48See if I can handle this guys. If you see this, I love what
- 8:51you're doing. Continue.
- 8:53Thank you very much. On a recent recording of the
- 8:55Bitcoin Bugle podcast, Rod Palmer walked a very thin line
- 8:58between trolling and truth, and he called out the entire
- 9:01situation. Listen here.
- 9:02Let's be clear. Can we, can we be adults?
- 9:06Can we cut the LARP? OK, many influencers are bad
- 9:11actors. Not all of them, but many.
- 9:15There are countless plaids and everyday Bitcoiners who are
- 9:19caught up in this because they're worried.
- 9:21And some are genuinely scared. They are scared for Bitcoin.
- 9:29They are scared for the security of their savings.
- 9:33They're scared of how the government, the state might
- 9:36react to policies pushed by core developers.
- 9:40And they are, some of them. And they don't listen to Bitcoin
- 9:44podcasts, clearly. But that fear because the trust
- 9:50has been shredded across society.
- 9:52People don't trust neighbors, Co workers or even their own family
- 9:57members. Republicans don't even trust
- 10:01anymore. Think about that for a second.
- 10:03Republicans, they don't even trust anymore.
- 10:07Don't take that for granted. It's not just a joke.
- 10:10This has serious ramifications. They don't trust the
- 10:13institutions that used to be the scaffolding of civil life.
- 10:18Credentials are the glue. Because we live in a low trust
- 10:21society and there's no going back.
- 10:23Shout out to Satoshi. Great foresight by the way.
- 10:27You know, don't trust verify. Used to be a meme on Twitter and
- 10:31a catch phrase on podcast. Still is for a lot of people.
- 10:35It was rhetorical candy. Cute, performative, harmless was
- 10:41not optional anymore. We cannot blindly trust anyone,
- 10:45not even Cordets. Now, I encourage you to check
- 10:48out the entire clip LinkedIn the description below.
- 10:51Very thoughtful words from an otherwise satirist account, but
- 10:54I can't sign off yet without covering a bit of new
- 10:56information that was released by Luke Dasher back in September
- 11:0025th. Remember, he's the CTO of Ocean
- 11:02Mining and he's pushing people towards Knots.
- 11:05Apparently he had an exchange with a journalist who goes by
- 11:08the pseudonym Lola Leets where he explicitly says in that text
- 11:13thread that he intends to fork Bitcoin.
- 11:16What do you mean fork Bitcoin? What the fork does that mean?
- 11:18Now, this leak has been met with some backlash in defense of
- 11:21Luke. Now let me reiterate.
- 11:23Knots is about Bitcoin as money. Period.
- 11:26The key aspect of the Knots movement centers around filters.
- 11:29Knots nodes have a special configuration to filter
- 11:32transactions, and again, Knots nodes do not relay transactions
- 11:36with inscriptions or spam. But once they are mined and
- 11:39confirmed, Knots nodes still validate and confirm blocks.
- 11:43This is a policy change as opposed to a consensus change.
- 11:46If the consensus was changed by knots, the blocks with spam
- 11:50would be considered invalid and ultimately there would be a
- 11:53chain split hard fork. And this is what Luke is
- 11:56referring to in his text thread. To add to that, the core version
- 11:5930 controversy is about opera turn.
- 12:02But the reason this is so controversial is because any
- 12:05spam or graffiti in the opera turn cannot be pruned by nodes
- 12:08like ordinals. Inscriptions can.
- 12:10Ordinals are stored in the witness data part of a block,
- 12:14which is segregated from the actual transaction data.
- 12:17Segregated witness? Oh yeah, Segue, A prune node is
- 12:22one that only stores the transaction data and not the
- 12:24witness data since the witness data is not required to validate
- 12:28transactions back to the genesis block.
- 12:31So here's the real question. How does this all affect you?
- 12:34Well, I'm not here to advise on the what you should do.
- 12:37At the end of the day, this is simply Bitcoin and that would be
- 12:39simply irresponsible. But I will leave you with this.
- 12:44Here's another audio clip from Rod Palmer in that address that
- 12:47he makes to his audience that really hits home.
- 12:50Equine Core is not an exclusive cabal of C++ coders.
- 12:56Equine Core is not shinobi. It's not Gloria, it's not Greg
- 13:00Maxwell. It's not Peter Wheel.
- 13:02It's not Adam Back or Luke Junior standing alone at that
- 13:06altar. Equine Core is an institution.
- 13:09Like the education system, like the healthcare system, like the
- 13:13criminal justice system. It is a story, a mental model
- 13:18people use to reach consensus. It's a process for resolving
- 13:24autistic, pedantic technical conflicts.
- 13:29And like many institutions and institutions in terminal
- 13:33decline, Equine Core is taking a legitimacy hit as the bigger
- 13:39quote UN quote vibe shift plays out.
- 13:43You know it. We're in the fourth turning.
- 13:47Whatever you want to call it, at the end of the day, the story,
- 13:51the end of the story has not been written.
- 13:54It is uncertain, and uncertainty makes people fearful, and fear
- 13:58is a fertile ground. And the bad actors, mostly on
- 14:03the knot side, are harvesting that beer like it's crop season.
- 14:09And like, listen, those who have built their reputations inside
- 14:13it. Coin Core's institutional
- 14:15framework will fight tooth and nail to defend it.
- 14:19That is predictable, I get it. But the hallmark of a frightened
- 14:24Plaid is this fear of the state. They believe it.
- 14:31Coin Core can no longer shield them, can no longer be trusted
- 14:36to shepherd this project for them, so they are in search of a
- 14:42new priesthood to protect them. Here's the rub.
- 14:46Many influencers would rather pick fights with Bitcoiners than
- 14:51with the state because it's a hell of a lot easier.
- 14:55They'd rather cash in on your fear than confront the real
- 14:59threat. They want you scared because
- 15:03they're selling solutions. They're selling node hardware,
- 15:07mining software, premium newsletters, all kinds of
- 15:12content. And if they're not taking your
- 15:15money directly, they're still selling your attention.
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