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Mega Edition: The Police Report That First Targeted Epstein's Deviant Behavior (Part 13-15) (5/2/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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In this episode, we're going to pick up where we
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left off with the Palm Beach police report, and this
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time we're picking up with the narrative of Joseph Roccari.
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On December twentieth, two thousand and five, I contacted Asa
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dahaliol Weiss in an attempt to subpoena the Epstein former
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Houseman Alfredo Rodriguez. Rodriguez, who resides in Miami, had eluded
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the process servers previously and was not served the investigative subpoena.
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A telephone message was left as she is not available.
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During the week of twelve nineteen, two thousand and five,
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I made contact with State Attorney Investigator Teresa Wyatt and
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requested the same via telephone message. I then researched the
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victims SG cellular telephone subpoena data which had been received
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from a previous subpoena request. I analyzed the records which
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to pick several calls from Hailey Robson. The telephone calls
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start on February six, two thousand and five, at twelve
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forty nine pm, the same day which the victim and
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the victim's father stated the incident occurred at Epstein's house.
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The first incoming call was from Robson's residence at redacted.
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The second incoming call from Robson's cell phone redacted, occurred
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at one o two PM. The call durations were one
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minute or less. The timeframe was within thirteen minutes apart.
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It should be noted that Robson's residence was in close
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proximity to the victims. The next call occurred at five PM,
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when the victim telephoned Robson's residence. Several calls were made
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after the above mentioned calls, both incoming and outgoing to Robson.
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Further analysis showed no telephone calls to either Robson's cellular
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telephone or Robson's residence were registered prior to February six,
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two thousand and five. Additionally, I also conducted an analysis
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on the telephone calls from redacted. The subscriber information confirmed
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that the number is registered to paul A Lavery, a
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resident of Florida. The address was cross reference to the
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office of Carolas and Riley Private Investigators. I researched the
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webpage Wwwileycoriley dot com, which also showed various cases in
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which they assisted. I also located another website under Coral
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Spring park Land Rotary dot org in which mister Riley
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attended a Miami rotary meeting and confirmed attorney Roy black
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Is among his clientele. The telephone calls revealed Lavery had
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telephone contact with redacted, either just after I attempted to
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interview them or just prior. A background was conducted on Lavery,
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which revealed he holds the current private investigator's license. A
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criminal arrest record revealed he had been previously arrested for
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possession of cocaine and solicitation of prostitution. I also researched
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the girls using MySpace dot com. This website is a
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new social networking service that allows members to create unique
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personal profiles online in order to find and communicate with
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old and new friends. The site allows one to establish
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your own MySpace dot com page and decorate the page
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anyway you wish. I found the following people have MySpace sites, Hayley, Robson,
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and then a bunch of redacted names. I received a
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singular wireless packet which contained a CD which contained the
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results of the subpoena request for verbatim calls on Redacted.
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An analysis will be conducted in the near future on
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the phone number is called. The investigation continues, continuing with
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the narrative of Joseph Roccari. Upon doing research on the
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message books recovered in the search warrant, I located the
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identity of Redacted. The telephone number redacted was registered to redacted.
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She currently is seventeen years old and she is attending
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the Redacted Academy. I respond to the eighteen oh one
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Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard also known as Palm Beach Mall.
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I located the Redacted Foundation. I located Redacted Redacted inside
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the foundation and informed her that I was investigating a
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case against Jeffrey Epstein and she knew she had been
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at the house. Redacted started to cry, and I advised
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her she had put that part of her life behind her.
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I explained that although she is seventeen years old, I
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needed to inform her parents that she would be interviewed.
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She provided her home telephone number. I attempted to contact
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and left voicemail messages at the house to speak with
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her parents. Detective Cristo and I then located Redacted at
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her residence located at redacted in West Palm Beach. I
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attempted to interview her about Jeffrey Epstein. She advised she
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is so in love with jeff Epstein and would do
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anything for him. She further explained that she would not
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speak with us about him, either negative or positive. She
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asked us to leave her property. I informed her that
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although she did not wish to speak with us, I
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had sufficient information at this point in the investigation to
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know that she was at Epstein's house and provided girls
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to Epstein to work. I also explained that prior to
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our arrival at her residence, I had telephone contact with
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her father Redacted, who was told she would be interviewed.
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Redacted is currently seventeen years old, and as a juvenile,
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parental notification would be required. We then left the area
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and returned to the police station. While at the police station,
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I left another telephone message for Redacted's parents, I began
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an analysis of Sarah Kellen's cellular telephone. The telephone number
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redacted is assigned to Sarah Kellen and the financially responsible
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party is Jeffrey Epstein of four to fifty seven Madison Avenue.
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The timeframe which it was subpoenaed was September two thousand
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and five through October two thousand and five. There were
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eighty seven pages of CA made either to the cell
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phone or from the cell phone. The local five six
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to one numbers were analyzed. A spreadsheet was prepared and
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placed into the attachment file of who called. The unknown
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numbers were researched using phonefinder dot Com and subpoenas were
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requested to determine subscriber information. This was done to identify
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additional victims or witnesses. The analysis revealed that Kellen had
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called the victim or witnesses frequently when Epstein was in
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town in Palm Beach to work. This confirms what the
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girls interviewed had previously stated. Kellen would notify them when
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Epstein was in town and their willingness to work. The
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CD was placed into evidence. The investigation continues. The narrative
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continues with Joseph Roccari. On December twenty ninth, two thousand
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and five, I received a facimile from National Compliance Center
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from Singular Wireless for a telephone number redacted. This was
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the telephone number for Hayley Robson during the timeframe when
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the victim Redacted was brought to the Epstein house to work.
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An analysis of the phone records of all incoming and
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outgoing calls showed that on February sixth, two thousand and five,
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the day the victim redacted was brought to the house,
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Robson first called Sarah Kellen, Epstein's assistant at redacted at
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twelve fifty pm Eastern Standard time. The following call was
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made to the victim redacted at one oh one pm
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Eastern Standard time and at one o two pm Eastern
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Standard time. This confirms the information provided by the victim
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and the victim's father. I photocopied the records and enlarged
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the page eight of ten to show the calls made
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by Robson on February six, two thousand and five. To
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this date, I have not heard from redacted to parents.
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I will attempt to establish contact with them during the
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evening hours. I received a package from Attorney Guy Fronstein
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which was hand delivered at the police station. Within the
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package was a letter from Alan Dershowitz and Tiou MySpace profiles.
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The profiles were that of redacted and redacted. MySpace is
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a social networking service that allows members to create unique
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personal profiles online in order to find and communicate with
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old and new friends. This package was in response to
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a previous meeting in which mister Dershowitz called to assist
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in the investigation in providing any additional witnesses, such as
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house employees who have been reluctant to speak with law enforcement.
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I reviewed the profiles mister Dershowitz enclosed Redacted, who designed
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her blog to be redacted. Fucking Redacted still attends her
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redacted high school sends and receives messages from friends which
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contained some profanity. Upon reviewing her friend's comments section from MySpace,
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most of her good friends sent messages to establish contact
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and invite her to go out. I then reviewed Redacted's weblog,
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which was provided by mister Dershowitz. Misredacted designed her blog
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to be redacted. Her blog states that her interests include music, theater,
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and weed. A reviewed her packet, in which she declares
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her love for her living boyfriend. She also describes using
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marijuana with her boyfriend Redacted. We're talking about underage girls here, remember, okay,
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little high school girls, and Alan Dershowitz and his band
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of mary scumbags destroyed these little girls and their reputation
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because of a MySpace profile. The letter that mister Dershowitz
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sent advised he was looking into the allegations that one
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of the private investigators used by the private attorneys of
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Epstein attempted to impersonate or state that they were police
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officers from Palm Beach. Mister Dershowitz advised that the investigators
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used to interview redacted had quite a distinct speech impediment,
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did not claim to be nor did they impersonate themselves
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as police officers. This package was sent to both Asa
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Lana Bellehovic and Asa Dahalio Weiss at the State Attorney's office,
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so they were on the march here and Dershowitz and
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his team were trying to preemp this and get ahead
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of everything that was coming down the pipe. I may
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telephone contact with Asa Weiss to confirm she received the
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package and request an interview with Sarah Kellen, Nadia Marsenkova
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and Ganesis Panisik. She advised she would assist in attempting
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to contact mister Dershowitz. On January third, two thousand and six,
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I received a telephone call from Asa Weiss, who informed
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me that she may telephone contact with mister Dershowitz. She
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had requested the employees be available the week of January third,
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two thousand and six. Mister Dershowitz informed her that the
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assistants are out of the country and would require additional
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time to locate them and make them available. Imagine this bullshit,
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the games that rich people can play, and then Maxwell
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has the audacity right to tell us how she's getting
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a bad shake. Okay, sure. The next narrative we have
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is from Lori Minoau on Thursday three thirty one oh five,
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I started conducting surveillance at three fifty eight lbrio. At
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this point I observed at eleven fifty five hours, a
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Tan Ultima burying Florida tag redacted in roadway, black burying
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Florida tag in drive and a tan Honda Civic bearing
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Florida tag redacted in the roadway, a black Chevy Suburban
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in the driveway, and a black Cadillac Escalade in the driveway.
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At thirteen hundred and twenty five hours, I observed the
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Honda Civic in the roadway, a black Chevy Suburban in
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the driveway, a black Catty Escalade in the drive and
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the white Kia car bearing Florida tag redacted. At sixteen
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fifteen hours, I observed the tan Honda Civic redacted in
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the roadway, a black Chevy Suburban in the drive a
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black Catty escalade in the driveway, and a white Kia
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car redacted in the roadway. On Friday four to one
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oh five, I continued surveillance at three fifty eight Albrio.
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At eleven thirty hours, I observed the tan Honda Civic
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burying Florida the tag redacted in the roadway, a black
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Cadillac Escalade in the driveway, and a tan unknown make
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model bearing Florida tag redacted in the roadway. At twelve
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twenty seven hours, I observed a tan Honda Civic redacted
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in the roadway, a black Catty escalade in the driveway,
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and a black Chevy Suv located behind the escalade. At
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thirteen forty five hours, I observed a tan Honda Civic
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redacted in the roadway and a black Chevy Suv in
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the driveway. At fifteen fifty eight hours, I observed the
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tan Honda Civic redacted in the roadway, a black Chevy
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Suv in the driveway, a black Catty escalade in the
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driveway and a dark unknown model make car parked in
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the garage. On Saturday four to two oh five, I
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continued surveillance at three fifty eight Lbrio. At seven thirteen hours,
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I observed a red Explorer bearing Florida tags redacted in
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the roadway and a black Catty escalade in the driveway.
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At a fourteen hours, I observed a red Explorer redacted
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in the roadway, black Cadillac escalade in the driveway, and
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the tan Honda Civic redacted. At O nine to five
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two hours, I observed a Red Explorer redacted in roadway,
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black Catty escalade in driveway, tan Honda Civic in the roadway,
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and also a gray unknown make model with BM in
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the trunk retrieving landscaping tools. At eleven fifty five hours,
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I observed a gray Camaro bearing Florida tag redacted, parking
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in the roadway in front of three p fifty eight albrio.
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A white female, blonde hair teens the early twenties, thin
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and tall, wearing a white tank top and short blue
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jeans blue shorts excuse me, exited the vehicle and walked
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to the rear of the house. I also observed a
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red Explorer in the roadway, tan Honda Civic redacted in roadway,
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and black catty escalade in the driveway. At thirteen ten hours,
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I observed a red explorer, white female driver leaving the area,
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tanned subcompact on roadway, and a red neon bearing Florida
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tag redacted. Then observed three white female approximately sixteen to
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eighteen years of age jogging. All three females ran into
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the driveway. There were two blonde hair and one brown hair.
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On Sunday four to three oh five, I continued surveillance
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at three fifty eight Elbrio. At seven nineteen hours, I
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observed a Tan Honda Civic redacted in roadway and a
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black catty escalade. At nine thirty four hours, I observed
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a tan Honda Civic redacted in the roadway and a
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black catty escalade in the driveway. At ten fifty seven hours,
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I observed only the tan Honda Civic. On Tuesday four
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to five oh five, I continued surveillance at three fifty
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eight Elbrio. At ten fifty two hours, I observed a
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red Explorer in the roadway, a green explorer bearing Florida
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tag redacted in the roadway, a green Aultama bearing Florida
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tag redacted in the roadway, white four truck redacted in
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the roadway, black Mercedes in the driveway being washed by
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a black mail and an unknown dark car parked in
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the garage. At ten fifty nine hours, of blue Chevy
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suburban drove to the house of three point fifty eight
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Elbrio and parked in the driveway. At eleven nineteen hours,
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I observed the white Ford truck, which was the pullman,
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leave the area. At eleven twenty six hours, I observed
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a gray, unknown make model car parked in the roadway.
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White mel got out of the car and walked to
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a house on the south side of Elbrio. At fourteen
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oh six, I observed a red Explorer parked on the
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roadway and a large white box truck parked behind the
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surveillance suburban. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up this
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episode here and in the next episode we'll pick up
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where we left off. All of the information that goes
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with this episode can be found in the description box.
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What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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In this episode, we're gonna dive right back in to
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the Palm Beach police report and pick up where we
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left off, and once again to do that, we're picking
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up with the narrative of Joseph Riccari. I made contact
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with mister addacted, father of redacted, who was told that
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I wished to interview his daughter. Mister adacted stated he
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was aware and had spoken with his daughter about the incident.
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He stated that his daughter had previously told him that
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she was hired to model lingerie at a Palm Beach mansion.
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Mister addacted stated that he knew nothing else about what
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she did when she went to work. Mister adacted advised
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he would cooperate with the investigation and make his daughter
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available for interviews. I asked if she was available for
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an interview. Redacted stated she was not home at the moment.
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I informed them that I would make contact with her
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at a later time. Mister addacted expressed his interest in
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the resolution in this matter, as he stated this information
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has affected his daughter emotionally. On January fourth, two thousand
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and five, I acquired the subpoenas from the State Attorney's
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Office for Singular Wireless Metro PCs, Verizon Bellsalth Telecommunications, and
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sprint for the unknown telephone numbers from Sarah Kellen's cellular telephone.
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The subpoenas were sent to their respective telephone carriers for
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subscriber information. I received a telephone call from State Attorney's
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office who informed me that the former houseman for Jeffrey Epstein,
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Alfredo Rodriguez, was present at the State Attorney's office for
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an interview. Rodriguez was issued in investigative subpoena for an
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interview on the ongoings at Epstein's house during his employee
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I responded to the State Attorney's office and encountered mister
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Rodriguez waiting in the lobby. I brought mister Rodriguez to
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the interview room. During the sworn tape statement, mister Rodriguez
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stated he was employed by Jeffrey Epstein for approximately six months.
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He was referred by associates and his employment lasted the
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months of November two thousand and four through May two
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thousand and five. His responsibilities as house manager included being
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the butler, chauffeur, chef, houseman on errands for mister Ebstein
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and provide for mister Ebstein's guests. Rodriguez advised he had
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very limited contact with mister Ebstein. If Rodriguez needed to
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relay a message to mister Ebstein, he would have to
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notify Epstein's secretary in New York City, who would then
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notify Epstein's personal assistant, Sarah, who would relay the message
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to Ebstein. Rodriguez stated Epstein did not want to see
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or hear the staff when he was in the residence.
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I asked Rodriguez if Epstein received many guests during his
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stay in Palm Beach. Rodriguez advised he had many guests.
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I asked specifically about messuses coming to the house. Rodriguez
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stated that he would have two massages a day. Epstein
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would have one massage in the morning and one massage
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in the afternoon every day that he was in residence.
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Rodriguez stated he would be informed to expect someone and
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make them comfortable until either Sarah or Epstein would meet
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with them. Rodriguez stated, once the messuses would arrive, he
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would allow them entry into the case and offer them
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something to drink or eat. They would then be encountered
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by either Sarah or Epstein. They would be taken upstairs
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to provide the massage. I asked Rodriguez if any of
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the messuses appeared young in age. He advised he didn't
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ask their ages, but felt they were very young. Rodriguez
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stated they ate like his own daughter, who is in
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high school. Rodriguez stated they would eat tons of cereal
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and drink milk all the time. Rodriguez stated the girls
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that would come appear to be too young to be messuses.
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He stated one time, under Epstein's direction, he delivered a
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dozen roses to redact Its High school for one of
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the girls that came to provide a massage. He knew
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the girls were still in high school and were of
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high school age. I asked Rodriguez about the massages. He
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felt there was a lot more going on than just massages.
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He would clean mister Epstein's bedroom after the alleged massages
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and would discover massage vibrators and sex to scattered on
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the floor. He also said he would wipe down the
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vibrators and sex toys and put them away in an armoir.
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He described the armoire as a small wood armoir which
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was on the wall close to Epstein's bed. Epstein ordered
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Rodriguez to go to the Dollar rent a car and
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rent a car for the same girl he brought the
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roses to so that she could drive herself to Epstein's
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house without incident. Rodriguez said the girl always needed rides
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to and from the house. Rodriguez referred to himself as
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a human atm machine and was ordered by Epstein to
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maintain a minimum balance of two thousand dollars on him
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at all times. When a girl would come by the
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house and mister Epstein was either not in residence or
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was not at home at the time, Rodriguez was to
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provide the girl several hundred dollars for their time and
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to notify Epstein the amount they were given. Epstein also
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ordered Rodriguez to purchase several gifts and provide them as
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tips to the girls. I asked what kind of gifts,
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Rodriguez stated, purchased iPod's jewelry, anything the girls would want.
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Rodriguez stated the amount of girls that came to the
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house was approximately fifteen. Each of the girls knew each
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other and all seemed to know at redacted High School
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who mister Epstein was. When asked to identify these girls,
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Rodriguez stated that he could not at the moment, but knew.
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He wrote their names down on a journal he kept
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during his employ with mister Epstein. He kept a journal
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in the event he needed to explain either to mister
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Epstein or his assistance what was done at the house
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or who visited the house, as he stated he was
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in charge of mister Epstein's personal security. While in Palm Beach.
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I informed him that I would need to view this journal,
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to which he stated he would research the book and
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contact me to provide the book. The interview was concluded
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and I left the area. I returned back to the
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police station where the micro cassette was placed into evidence.
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At approximately seven thirty PM, I was notified Rodriguez located
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the journal and would call me on January fifth, two
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thousand and five to provide the journal. The investigation continues.
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The narrative now is still Detective Rocari. On January fifth,
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two thousand and six, I attempted to meet with Alfredo
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Rodriguez to recover the folder or journal in which he
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kept the notes that were given to him during his
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employ with mister Jeffrey Epstein. He kept this folder to
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justify what he did during his employ should the need
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a rise to justify what occurred with the monies. He
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had kept or any questions as to the petty cash
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he withdrew from the household account from the bank. At
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approximately ten PM, I attempted contact with mister Rodriguez and
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discovered he was assisting his wife at her place of
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employment and would not be able to meet with me.
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Mister Rodriguez stated he would meet with me January sixth,
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two thousand and six in Broward County in the morning hours.
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On January sixth, two thousand and six, at approximately nine
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a m. I received a telephone call from mister Rodriguez,
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who advised he had the fire is in hand and
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would be traveling northbound to meet me in Broward County.
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At ten fifty am, I met with Alfredo Rodriguez in
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the parking lot of Bank of America and Boca Raton
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on Yamato Road and Military Trail known as the Polo Center.
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Rodriguez produced a green folder which contained documents a note
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with mister Epstein's stationary with direction to deliver a bucket
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of roses to redact its high school after redacted high
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school drama performance. Also in the same note was directions
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to rent a car for redacted and directions to extend
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the rental contract. I returned to the Palm Beach Police
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station and placed the folder into evidence. I received a
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fax from Verizon from the subpoena request sent on one
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four h six for telephone number redacted. The number is
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registered to doctor Perry Bard from West pom Beach. Doctor
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Bard is a chiropractor and has an office located redacted
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in West Palm Beach. The cell number is doctor Bard's
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personal cellular number. On January ninth, two thousand and six,
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Detective Cristo and I traveled to redacted in Palm Beach
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Gardens in an attempt to locate Johanna Schoberg, who had
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been previously seen on the property and identified through her
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Florida driver's license and Florida license plate. A business card
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was left for her to return my call. We then
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traveled to the redacted foundation and located redacted. Redacted agreed
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to speak with us and in a private room within
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the school, provided us a tape statement. During the statement,
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Redacted advised that when she was fifteen or sixteen years
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of age, she was taken to Jeffrey Epstein's house by
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her associate Redacted. Redacted stated that this occurred late May
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two thousand and four or early June two thousand and four,
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she was told that she could model lingerie for money
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for a wealthy Palm Beacher. She remembered they traveled by
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yellow cap from their residence in West Palm Beach to
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Epstein's house. She remembered encountering Epstein at the front door
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during the evening hours. He introduced himself and brought them
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into the kitchen so that the chef could prepare something
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for them to eat. After having a meal, Redacted and
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Epstein brought Redacted upstairs to a master bedroom which had
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a large bathroom. She observed a large style shower sauna
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and there was a large massage bed also in the bathroom.
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Epstein entered the room within the bathroom and came out
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wearing only a towel. Redacted said that they would provide
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a massage on his feet. Redacted asked why they are
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doing this. Redacted told her this was part of the
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routine and told her to rub his legs and calves.
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Epstein had told her Redacted to get comfortable. Redacted continued
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rubbing Epstein's calves and his feet at Epstein's direction. Redacted
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then left the room, leaving redacted there by herself. Epstein
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told her redacted to get comfortable. Then he removed her
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blouse and pants and stayed in her panties. Redacted stated
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she was not wearing a bra. She believed she was
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wearing thong pans. Epstein turned over onto his back and
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began touching her. Epstein touched her breast and began touching
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her in her vagina area. Epstein instructed her to rub
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his chest and rub his nipples. Redacted stated the touching
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consisted over the pannies. On the first time, he stroked
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her vagina, but stayed on top of the pannies. During
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the first massage, she stated Epstein was stroking her and
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began masturbating himself. At the same time, he put his
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hands under the towel and appeared as to masturbate himself. However,
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she never saw his penis. She continued rubbing his chest
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until he grabbed her and pulled her closer to him.
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He appeared to have climax because after he pulled her
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closer to him the massage was over. Epstein told her
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that there was two hundred dollars for her on the dresser.
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He told her that she couldnot tell anyone what happened
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that the house or bad things could happen. Redacted stated
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she went to Epstein's house three or four times in total.
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Redacted was very scared and felt very nervous. She knew
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because of Epstein's money, he was powerful. After the massage,
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Epstein ordered his houseman at the time to drive the
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girls home. The employee was to drop off the girls
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at their houses and to watch them go inside. Redacted
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cannot remember who the houseman was. She stated at Epstein
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and his assistant Sarah would call her at her father's
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house to arrange for her to come to work. She advised.
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Each time she returned to the house, Epstein would do
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the same thing. Redacted stated it was a routine with Epstein.
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She would rub his feet and calves. He would then
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turn over and begin to touch her on her vagina area.
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The only difference was it was done without pannies. Epstein's
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fingers would stroke her vagina area as he would masturbate
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and finally climax and the massage would be over. She
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was paid two hundred dollars each time she went. Each
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time she went, she was reminded not to speak of
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what had happened at the house and that she would
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be contacted again. She began to purposely miss the calls
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when either Sarah or Epstein would call her. She once
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brought a friend redacted unknown last name to work for Epstein.
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She was paid two hundred dollars for bringing redacted and
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redacted stated she no longer returned to work for Epstein.
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She also stated that she wanted to notify the police
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of what happened at the house. Redacted stated that she
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was scared of what could have happened to her or
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her family if she notified the authorities. On January tenth,
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two thousand and six, I received the results from the
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subpoena from the Bell South Telecommunications for telephone number redacted.
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The number is assigned to or redacted and redact its
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father in Palm Beach Gardens. I also received the results
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from the Western Union, which confirmed the money order sent
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to or redacted from Jeffrey Epstein in New York City.
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The wire was sent by Jeffrey Epstein of four fifty
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seven Madison Avenue in New York City on December twenty third,
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two thousand and four, at twelve oh five pm. The
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amount of two hundred and twenty two dollars was charged
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to Epstein's credit card so that Redacted could receive two
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hundred dollars in Royal Palm Beach. The twenty two dollars
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was for processing and local fees to send the money
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via Western Union. A copy of the check presented to
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Redacted was also attached to the receipt of the wire
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This confirm what Redacted advised she received as a Christmas
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bonus from Epstein. The investigation continues. All right, folks, we're
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gonna wrap up right here, and in the next episode
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we'll pick up where we left off. All of the
29:28
information that goes with this episode can be found in
29:31
the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome back to
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the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna dive right
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back into that Palm Beach police report and pick up
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where we left off. We're picking up once again with
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the narrative of Joseph Roccari. I received and reviewed the
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singular wireless results from the subpoena request for subscriber information
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for the telephone numbers redacted. The first number redacted is
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assigned to Janus Banis in care of Jeffrey Epstein of
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four to fifty seven Madison Avenue in New York City.
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Vanasik is the current houseman house manager for the three
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point fifty eight Elbrio Way in pom Beach, Florida. The
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second number redacted is assigned to Christian Venero of redacted,
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West Palm Beach. Research conducted on Venaro revealed she is
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a licensed massage therapist with a Florida conditional active license
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number redacted. Venero had been previously arrested for battery, unwanted
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touching and duy. Requests for copies of the reports involving
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the arrests were requested from the pom Beach County Sheriff's Office.
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The last number redacted is assigned to Thomas Rofrano of
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redacted pom Beach Gardens. Research on mister Rofrano revealed he
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is a Florida chiropractor. Vehicles that were previously documented on
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the property while surveillance was being conducted were researched. I
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determined to tan Chevrolet Camaro bearing Florida license redacted was
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seen on the property in which a young white female
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was seen entering the Epstein property. Research was conducted which
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revealed that the vehicle is registered to redacted. Mister redacted
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has two daughters, redacted and redacted is currently residing in
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Connecticut and redacted as residing with her father in Lake Worth.
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Research on redacted revealed she was recently involved in a
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traffic stop in Lake Clark Shores in May nineteenth, two
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thousand and five. A request to discover any information from
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the stop was requested. I spoke with Asa daliel Weiss,
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who informed me that Janice Banasik will be available for
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an interview tomorrow at the State's Attorney's office in West
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Palm Beach at one thirty PM. I informed her that
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I would be at her office for the interview. On
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January nineteenth, two thousand and six, Detective Cristo and I
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met with Johanna Schoberg, at a licensed massage therapist who
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had previously been seen on Epstein's property when physical surveillance
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was done. Schoberg was told of the ongoing investigation and
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I felt she may have information pertaining to the case.
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During a sworn tape statement, Shoburg stated she met Epstein
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three years ago when Glene Maxwell approached her while she
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was attending Palm Beach Atlantic College to work around Epstein's house.
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Maxwell had told her that they needed some girls to
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work at the house to answer phones and run errands.
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Shoberg accepted the job and began working at Epstein's house
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on Elbrio in Palm Beach. Shoburg stated it was a
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part time job. During the time that she went to
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Palm Beach Atlantic College, she continued going to Epstein's house
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and would be notified when Epstein would travel to Palm Beach.
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Shoburg advised she would be notified by Maxwell Epstein or Sarah,
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his assistant, when he would travel to Palm Beach. Schoberg
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stated that she began providing massages to Abstein before she
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became a massage therapist. She continued giving massages not only
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to Ebstein, but to Nadia Marsenkova and Sarah, his assistant.
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Shoburg was asked about what occurred during the massages. Shoburg
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stated that she was twenty three years old when she
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met Epstein. Anything that happened was between two consenting adults.
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I explained to her that she was not in any trouble. However,
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as part of this investigation, I needed to ask her
33:19
certain questions. Shoburg stated that there were times that Epstein
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would ask her to perform. During the massage, he would
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instruct her to rub his nipples as he masturbated himself.
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Shoburg stated she felt grossed out about the behavior, but
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as she was getting paid, she just continued. Schoburg also
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advised she would on occasion perform the massages naked. Epstein
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would on occasion utilize the vibrator massager on her vagina
33:46
area when she performed the massages. Sholburg explained that Epstein
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never exposed himself to her, as he maintained himself covered
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under the towel he would be wearing. When Epstein would masturbate,
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he would be covered. I asked if Schowburgh ever received
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any gifts or any retuities from Epstein. Schoburg advised aside
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from being paid well, she advised Epstein to care of
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her tuition from Palm Beach Atlanta College, and she received
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a rental car for a week when her scooter broke down. Additionally,
34:15
she received other gifts from Epstein. Epstein also recommended her
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to another client who resides at Breaker's Row in Palm Beach.
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The client she was referred to was named Glenn unknown
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last name and his wife, whom she provided a massage to.
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The statement was concluded and placed into evidence upon our
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return to the Palm Beach Police Department. While at the
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police station, I researched Florida tag redacted, which was also
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previously seen on the property when there was physical surveillance
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being done at the property. The vehicle is registered to Redacted, Lakeworth, Florida.
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Researching mister Redacted and the vehicle revealed that his daughter Redacted,
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had been driving the vehicle and was cited for unlawful
34:56
speed in Lake Clark Shores. The vehicle is a Tan
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Chevrolet Camaro Tudor. I research Redacted's date of birth redacted
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nineteen eighty seven. Resides that redacted and Redacted has a
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MySpace page. Inner web page shows various photos of Redacted
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photographed out a beach. An interview is forthcoming. A review
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of the video discs which was extracted at the Palm
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Beach County Sheriff's Office Computer Crime Unit, revealed that only
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one hidden camera was functional at the time. Several images
35:27
of Epstein working at his office were seen. Additional footage
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of Sarah Kellen and Nadia Marsenkova was seen. There was
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other footage of women see The identity of the females
35:38
is unknown at this time until such time as I
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meet with certain females to show the video footage to
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confirm if in fact it is them on the video.
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At this time, it appears that redacted and Haley Robson
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are seen sitting with Epstein beside his desk in the
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evening hours. Due to poor lighting, a direct confirmation cannot
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be made at this time. The investigation continues. On January
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twenty fifth, two thousand and six, Detective Cristo and I
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responded to her redacted and met with redacted and Redacted
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stated last year, when she was seventeen years of age,
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she met Jeffrey Epstein through her former roommate redacted. Redacted
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was allegedly dating Epstein at the time. Redacted and redacted
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had once cohabitated together when they modeled. Redacted explained. Redacted
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called her on the telephone and advised her that she
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was in Palm Beach and requested to see her. Redacted
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made arrangements to meet with her at Epstein's house. Redacted
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arrived and met Epstein and redacted and redacted and redacted
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and went to the Palm Beach Mall together and went shopping.
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Redacted advice that Redacted and she had received money from
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Epstein to go to La Mall. They visited Victoria's Secret
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and purchased undergarments from the store, utilizing monies given to
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them by Epstein. Redacted advice. She purchased one item and
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Redacted purchased various items. The money used to purchase the
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items was money given by Epstein. Redacted and Redacted continued
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chopping and having a day together. Redacted stated that Redacted
37:08
explained how she and Epstein had been dating each other
37:12
and how he has been paying all of her bills.
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Redacted claims she that Redacted advised they met in New
37:18
York and had been dating ever since. They later returned
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to Epstein's home and encountered Epstein. He had a brief
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conversation with Redacted about her modeling career. He knew of
37:28
her modeling career from Redacted. He requested to see her
37:31
modeling portfolio and explained that he could help her with
37:34
modeling jobs. Redacted had her book with her to show
37:37
Redacted and showed the book to Epstein. He commented negatively
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about her photographs and portfolio. Redacted felt uncomfortable with the
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comments made as she had been working with other professional
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modeling companies and had been offered work for her photographs.
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Epstein requested to see what was purchased at the mall.
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Redacted took out the undergarments which were purchased. She immediately
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showed Epstein different sets purchased. Epstein then requested to view
38:05
what was purchased. Redacted was reluctant to show the outfit. However,
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since it was Epstein's money that purchased the item, she
38:12
pulled it out of the bag. Epstein asked her to
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try it on. Redacted looked at Redacted, who told her, yeah,
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try it on. Feeling compelled to try on the undergarment outfit,
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she went to another room and put on the bron
38:25
panty set. She walked out to the living room where
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they were sitting and modeled the suit. She then went
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back into the other room and changed back into her clothes.
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Redacted returned into the room and told her that she
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would be going home. Redacted scheduled another day for Redacted
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to return for massage with her. Redacted stated within the
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same week, she returned to meet with Redacted and have
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a massage. Redacted had told her that she would be
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unable to stay with her as she would be going
38:54
on a bike ride with Epstein. Redacted explained that she
38:57
could stay at the house and take advantage of the massage.
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Redacted stated that she met with an unknown massage therapist
39:04
and had the table already set up in a guest room.
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Redacted removed her clothing, leaving her panties on, and wrapped
39:11
herself with a towel for the massage. Redacted or remembered
39:14
that the door to the guest room was closed but
39:17
not locked. As the therapist was working her back. The
39:20
door was opened by Epstein and he entered into the room.
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Redacted was trying to conceal herself as Epstein was talking
39:27
to her about his chiropractic session. Epstein told Redacted to
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turn over onto her back. Redacted eventually turned over, exposing
39:35
her breast to Ebstein as he applied pressure on her
39:38
shoulder and her waist. Redacted stated Epstein popped her back.
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Redacted Or removed herself from the table and got dressed
39:45
and left the house. Redacted further stated Redacted had attempted
39:50
to call her on several occasions to invite her back
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to Epstein's house, to which redacted replied, I'm busy. Redacted
39:57
advised she had not had contact with either redacted or
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Jeffrey Epstein. It should be noted that her mother, redacted,
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was present during the interview. The interview was concluded and
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we thanked them for their time. On January twenty seventh,
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two thousand and six, I made telephone contact with Christina
40:14
Vanaro at redacted. Banero is a licensed massage therapist who
40:19
had frequented the home of Jeffrey Epstein. Miss Venaro has
40:23
been unable to meet with me in Palm Beach County,
40:25
and because she lives and works in Port Saint Luci,
40:28
a telephone interview was conducted. I explained to Miss Venaro
40:32
that there was an ongoing investigation involving Jeffrey Epstein. Bernero
40:37
stated she knows Epstein and has been employed by them
40:40
for approximately three years. Epstein has paid Venero to perform
40:44
Swedish massages deep tissue on him and other guests. Banero
40:48
explained that approximately three years ago, she met Glene Maxwell
40:52
and Jeffrey Epstein through a mutual friend. Epstein and Maxwell
40:56
were looking for a massage therapist. Benaro stated, since that time,
41:01
she is notified when Epstein is coming into Palm Beach.
41:04
Bnaro stated she comes to his house and provides the
41:07
massage or massages. Banero explained she has also massage his
41:11
guests and his assistance. Venero continued that she has paid
41:16
one hundred dollars an hour for the massage. I asked
41:19
Venaro if anything occurred during the massage that would have
41:22
made her feel uncomfortable. Venero stated she only provided massages
41:26
and that was it. She was never approached for anything else.
41:30
I asked if Epstein ever asked her to rub his chest.
41:32
She stated she would not rub his chest as that
41:35
is not part of her massage. Bernero explained that she
41:38
was not Epstein's type. The girl she would see at
41:41
Epstein's house were very thin, beautiful, and without tattoos. Venero
41:45
explained she has several tattoos that are visible. Maxwell and
41:49
Epstein have commented negatively about her tattoos previously when she
41:54
provided massages. Venero stated she only provided massages for Epstein
41:59
and is associate and nothing happened during those massages. Bernero stated,
42:04
as she does Swedish style massages. The patient is usually
42:07
sore after the massages. I thanked her for assistance and
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the interview was concluded. At this time, I received a
42:14
facimile from T Mobile Cellular Service on telephone number redacted,
42:19
which is assigned to David Rodgers, pilot for mister Epstein,
42:23
who resides in Lake Worth. Rogers telephone number was dialed
42:27
on several occasions from Sarah Kellen. A background on Rogers
42:31
indicated he has a valid FAA pilot license first Class
42:35
for the Southern FAA region. Rogers has another historical FAA
42:40
license for airline transport pilot. The investigation continues. All right, folks,
42:46
we're gonna wrap this one up right here, and in
42:48
the next episode we'll pick up where we left off.
42:51
All of the information that goes with this episode can
42:54
be found in the description box.