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FT rankings: Top 5 players of the 21st century, Top 5 ballparks · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Who are the top five players of the twenty first century?
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  Speaker 1: Bron Kratz and top Father. Here will get lists from
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  Speaker 1: the two former players. Krats, you get to go first.
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  Speaker 1: Top five players in the two thousands.
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  Speaker 2: Guys that played in the two thousands a little different,
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  Speaker 2: the guys that were definitely the best the entire time.
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  Speaker 2: Gotta start with Justin Verlander. I have a hard time
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  Speaker 2: not putting a pitcher who won an MVP on the list.
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  Speaker 2: I get it, sure Zer and him were close but
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  Speaker 2: complete games. The fact that he did it at such
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  Speaker 2: a dominant level. Justin Verlander. Number five Clayton Kershaw. In
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, it's the best left handed pitcher I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: He even declined with his velocity, and yet his numbers
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  Speaker 2: stayed the same. People want to hate on different like
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  Speaker 2: single pitches that he's thrown in the playoffs. Now he's
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  Speaker 2: a three time World Series champion. Goes out on top.
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  Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw, best picture of this center of the twenty
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  Speaker 2: first century. Miggy Cabrera, a triple crown, A guy who
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  Speaker 2: from the right side is the second best wait, no,
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  Speaker 2: look at my list, third best hitter, but maybe the
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  Speaker 2: most pure hitter. That's on this list. Obviously, when I
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  Speaker 2: get to one, he's going to debate that. But Miguel
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  Speaker 2: Cabrera could do some things playing against him that you
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  Speaker 2: were just like, I get it, like this is not
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  Speaker 2: that easy to hit, but he would do it and
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  Speaker 2: he made it look that easy. Number two mine and
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  Speaker 2: Todd's ex teammate, Mike Trout. What he was doing early
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  Speaker 2: in his career was historical and it was kind of
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  Speaker 2: ironic that he gets to play with the number one
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  Speaker 2: player in the world in Shoheo Tani and he's gotten
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  Speaker 2: to play. He got to play with the number one
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  Speaker 2: player on my list in aberpool Host. But my Trout's
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  Speaker 2: only downfall is that he has not had opportunities in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs. I feel like this is a guy who
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  Speaker 2: has gone out and was on pace to rewrite the
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  Speaker 2: record books and still has an opportunity to have some
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  Speaker 2: more years if he can figure out how to stay
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  Speaker 2: on the field. And Number one, the best right handed
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  Speaker 2: hitter that I ever played against, bar Nunn Albert pool Hosts.
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  Speaker 2: What he was doing when he first got called up
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  Speaker 2: made me question.
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  Speaker 3: Is this guy really twenty or twenty one years old?
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  Speaker 2: And then he played past his forties, he played and
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  Speaker 2: hit at a level that if you look at his
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  Speaker 2: first ten years, I don't know that we're going to
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  Speaker 2: see a consistent level of three hundred thirty and one
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  Speaker 2: hundred RBIs in consecutive seasons. I don't know that we'll
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  Speaker 2: see that again because of how hard it is to
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  Speaker 2: hit over three hundred and Albert pool host did it,
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  Speaker 2: and I know everyone's gonna remember him in this age
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  Speaker 2: about the Angels career, but when you go and look
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  Speaker 2: at what he did with the Cardinals, it is nobody's
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  Speaker 2: touched it in the twenty first century. Todd, I definitely
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  Speaker 2: am excited to see your list, but I need I
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  Speaker 2: need you to build me up and tell me how
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  Speaker 2: good list is phenomenal.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's it's a really really good list. I
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  Speaker 4: think you put a lot of good heart and thought
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  Speaker 4: into it. I have a couple that are on there,
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  Speaker 4: but I also have you might be surprised a couple
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  Speaker 4: that are not on your list. So if we can
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  Speaker 4: go to my list first off, I and you're probably
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  Speaker 4: gonna look at me funny, but yeah, well I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: start with number one because you know this is the
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  Speaker 4: goat of all goats. He had five hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 4: three saves from two thousand and one on the two
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  Speaker 4: time World Series winner with one pitch guys, he threw
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  Speaker 4: one pitch. It was a cutter that nobody can hit. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 4: and fortunately for me, I never got to face him.
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  Speaker 4: I was up fifth to one inning and he threw
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  Speaker 4: seven pitches broke two bats. So I was like, all,
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  Speaker 4: at least I got to save my bat. But this guy,
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  Speaker 4: when you talk about the best closer of all time,
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  Speaker 4: the best one pitch pitcher of all time, Marinovera's number one,
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  Speaker 4: Albert Polholtz, Like you said, I can go on and
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  Speaker 4: on about him. At my number two, I mean one guy.
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  Speaker 4: There was only a handful of guys that I was
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  Speaker 4: afraid of. This guy was on the top of my list.
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  Speaker 4: When I played third base, I would back up and
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  Speaker 4: if he ever tried to bunt, I would give it
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  Speaker 4: to him. He was just absolutely incredible. His work ethic,
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  Speaker 4: you know how he held his bat up and down.
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  Speaker 4: It just everything about him. Each Rosuzuki I thought would
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  Speaker 4: have been on your list. This guy when you think
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  Speaker 4: about the best Japanese ballplayer of all time, right now
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  Speaker 4: to come over to America each Rosuzuki is on top
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  Speaker 4: of that list. Left handed specialist. They said, this guy
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  Speaker 4: can hit a home run on demand in batting practice
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  Speaker 4: any time he wanted to. I would have loved to
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  Speaker 4: see him do a home run derby or at least
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  Speaker 4: face him. I thought that would be cool. You talked
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  Speaker 4: about Miguel Cabrera, absolutely phenomenal. I remember my brother Charlie
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  Speaker 4: play with him in rookie ball. I went down to Florida,
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  Speaker 4: a real tall, but slender Migy Cabrera a getting after
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  Speaker 4: playing shortstop. This guy hit the ball to all fields
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  Speaker 4: a musty TV and yeah, Clayton Kershaw the best left
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  Speaker 4: handed pitcher I've ever seen or ever hit against. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I just can't wait to tell my son one day
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  Speaker 4: as he gets older and understand that all these guys
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  Speaker 4: are Hall of famers and I got to play against
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  Speaker 4: a couple of them. So for me, ultimately, this is
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  Speaker 4: my list, and I got the big male on top.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, there you go. I like what both of you did.
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  Speaker 1: I do have questions, and in order to ask those questions,
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to utilize a source. This is
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  Speaker 1: a hotly debated topic in terms of who we're looking at.
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  Speaker 1: And also keep in mind we're looking at twenty first century,
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  Speaker 1: so what these players did in the nineties doesn't count.
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  Speaker 1: And that's okay. I mean, for example, with Mo Todd
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  Speaker 1: father he dominated really starting in nineteen ninety six, but
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  Speaker 1: he dominated through the two thousands up until he retired
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  Speaker 1: after the twenty thirteen season. So yes, you are docking
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  Speaker 1: ninety six to ninety nine, but he still had a
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  Speaker 1: long run. Let's show ESPN's top ten list when they
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  Speaker 1: put this out, and I'll give you, maybe verbally a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more. After that. They went Coohles one, Mike
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  Speaker 1: Trout two, Clayton Kershaw three, Miggy four each row five.
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  Speaker 1: Barry Bonds checks in at six. Again remembering that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of his work was before the twenty first century
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of it was after, so or I
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  Speaker 1: guess less of that after. But still point is you
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  Speaker 1: got to look at just from two thousand on Justin
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  Speaker 1: Verlanders seven, eight Rod eight, David Ortiz nine, Maxers are ten.
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  Speaker 1: And for their list, they're just going off statistics. So
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  Speaker 1: if you want to start playing the ped suspicion game,
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  Speaker 1: they were not playing that.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of fans that watch this show
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  Speaker 1: and this channel are going to say, excuse me, show, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: Kannie has been playing for a while at this point,
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  Speaker 1: racking up MVP awards. Guys, how come he can't crack
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  Speaker 1: your top five? Is he a guy that could crack
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  Speaker 1: your top ten? He's fourteen on ESPN's list, and I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of this just has to do with
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  Speaker 1: him not compiling the same amount of statistics yet as
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  Speaker 1: some of the others. I would have him in my
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  Speaker 1: top five for the uniqueness, the pitching and the hitting,
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  Speaker 1: the winning. He's got it all. And to me, it's
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  Speaker 1: been long enough. Where would he be in your mind?
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  Speaker 1: Todd Father, he would be.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's right where he needs to be right now.
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  Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you. There were some guys
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  Speaker 4: in the two thousands. I mean a Rod Barry Bonds
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  Speaker 4: was on my list, Mike Trout was a close six
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  Speaker 4: to seven range. Yeah, I think he's about there, a
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  Speaker 4: little over the ten mark. And I think David Ortiz
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking about a lot. I mean, how clutch
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  Speaker 4: was that guy? So in due time he will definitely
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  Speaker 4: be top five, if not, you know, top one or
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  Speaker 4: two for sure. A Barry Bonds. I mean he what
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  Speaker 4: he had. I mean, yeah, but it's again, it started
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  Speaker 4: in two thousand. But yes, I think he's about exactly
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  Speaker 4: where he should be right now.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, And they did have Marianna Rivera at thirteen. You'll
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  Speaker 1: hear a little bit of pushback Todd father, because you
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  Speaker 1: went with someone who's not playing every day and he's
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  Speaker 1: a closer. I'm with you, he's by far the best
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  Speaker 1: closer of all time. What would be your pushback to
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  Speaker 1: someone that says, how are you not picking a position
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  Speaker 1: player like a pool holes or a trout or somebody
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  Speaker 1: that can do it all on an everyday basis, not pitch,
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  Speaker 1: but do it all in terms of contributing to the
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  Speaker 1: lineup and playing every day.
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  Speaker 4: And listen, I could have easily flip flopped the hitter
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  Speaker 4: in there too. I thought about this when I thought
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  Speaker 4: about the numbers. I thought about as I said before,
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  Speaker 4: he did it with one pitch, and he got everybody
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  Speaker 4: out with that one pitch. You know, he had two
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  Speaker 4: World Series, so did pool hosts. It just every time
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  Speaker 4: this guy and his music came on, you knew the
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  Speaker 4: game was over? Did you know it was? The game
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  Speaker 4: was over? When Pulholes is up in the bottom of
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  Speaker 4: the ninth. No, not all the time. Yeah, you would
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  Speaker 4: most likely think he's gonna do something. Bonds everybody else
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  Speaker 4: you could think of was the game pretty much ninety
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  Speaker 4: five percent. I don't know the exact statistic, but it's
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  Speaker 4: got to be eighty to ninety in that range game over.
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  Speaker 4: You can't say that about any other person. So that's
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  Speaker 4: why one pitch and how dominant he was lights that
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  Speaker 4: that was my decision.
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  Speaker 1: Hey Kratz, where's Otani for you? Since you've been I
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  Speaker 1: would say a huge proponent of him basically racking up
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  Speaker 1: any award possible. Right, we have the famous Otani versus
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  Speaker 1: a Kunya overall Player of the Year from several years back,
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  Speaker 1: where you're like, how do you go against shoh and
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  Speaker 1: he continues to get overlooked sometimes when the players are
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  Speaker 1: voting and those players choice the word votes when they
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  Speaker 1: picked Kyle Schorber this past season over show Aotani. But
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  Speaker 1: how come Otani doesn't crack your list versus Trout As
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  Speaker 1: we speak right now, I'm trying to pull up the
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  Speaker 1: season by season comparison for them, because clearly Otani is
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  Speaker 1: doing things that we have never seen before. So is
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  Speaker 1: he just not giving you enough length yet? Because it's
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  Speaker 1: not like Mike Trout had this super long peak we're
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  Speaker 1: going to look back and say Hall of Fame, Locke,
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  Speaker 1: but it did tail off. So for Trout, you're really
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  Speaker 1: looking at twenty twelve through twenty nineteen, right, that's the peak.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two was pretty solid too, So if you
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  Speaker 1: want to count, what is that eight seasons or so?
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  Speaker 1: Showy Otani as of when we're doing this is about
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  Speaker 1: to enter his ninth season. So the body of works
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  Speaker 1: getting there, man.
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  Speaker 2: It is, but it's more recent. And I have show Hey.
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  Speaker 2: I had show Hey at nine. No chance David Ortiz.
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  Speaker 3: Is up there.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, there's just no don't. I also don't have show
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  Speaker 2: Hey above a rod Or Bonds. Bonds won second place
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  Speaker 2: in the MVP in two thousand and then he went
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and one to two three and four, he
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  Speaker 2: was MVP, and so yeah, I have I have those
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  Speaker 2: guys above him. And today, I know this might get
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  Speaker 2: some controversy, but Shoelo Town, he's not a Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Famer today. If he never plays another game, he's not
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  Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 1: That's so wrong Wright, because he doesn't hit the number.
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  Speaker 1: I think the winds above replacement number. But a lot
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  Speaker 1: of stat nerds go off these days. I want to
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  Speaker 1: say it's like fifty ish and Otani is at thirty
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  Speaker 1: five point four, although I got to make sure I'm looking. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the batting side side.
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  Speaker 2: Statistically impossible, shoe halo Tony doesn't play another game. He
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  Speaker 2: falls short because you need ten years of service time.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why I say he's not a Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Famer yet do.
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  Speaker 1: You need one? Regardless? So if you're the best player
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  Speaker 1: on the planet for nine years, you can't make the
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 2: Unless they change the rules.
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  Speaker 4: I sure didn't know that. I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, I wouldn't I wouldn't push all in on that.
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  Speaker 2: But that's what I was doing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, well, he does, Todd Filer give him thirty seconds
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  Speaker 1: of crap so I can look it up.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, sho Otani is a Hall of Famer right now.
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  Speaker 4: He is truly remarkable. He's the best hitter in our
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  Speaker 4: generation besides Barry Bonds. As I've said this before, Barry
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  Speaker 4: was the best show. Hey, he's a pitcher, he's a
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  Speaker 4: hitter coming off surgeries and coming out and still dominate
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  Speaker 4: and finding ways to get m vps a couple time
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  Speaker 4: World Series champ Ah. I don't know anybody in their
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  Speaker 4: right mind right now, take the rules out of it,
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  Speaker 4: that wouldn't take him as a Hall of Famer right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's right as far as the quick
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  Speaker 1: AI check us, but I'm not that that is not
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  Speaker 1: the eligibility for this list. So I go very much
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  Speaker 1: against you both show hey would be.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say he wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't say, but he's not in either of your
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  Speaker 1: top five. But top fathers telling me how he's one
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  Speaker 1: of the best players he's seen, and then you're saying
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  Speaker 1: he's amazing and he should be winning Player of the
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  Speaker 1: Year for anything anytime he can. And yet neither of
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  Speaker 1: you can put him in the top five because he's
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  Speaker 1: only played for seven or eight seasons.
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  Speaker 2: And he's really only had twenty one to twenty five
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  Speaker 2: of dominance. Now, the fact that he pitched during that
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  Speaker 2: entire time, he was getting his feet wet and he
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  Speaker 2: was impressive to watch. But when you talk about the
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  Speaker 2: fact that what those guys did that are on my list,
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  Speaker 2: I think I have him above him. Like, right now,
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  Speaker 2: he's Bonds. He tied Bonds with the same MVPs. He
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  Speaker 2: tied Barry Bonds, the greatest hitter of all time in MVPs.
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  Speaker 2: At this point he's tied. So today I have him
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  Speaker 2: still in my top ten, not.
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  Speaker 4: My Scout or five Scootera. To finish it off, it's
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  Speaker 4: ten seasons, not ten years. It says ten seasons. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: so I still have I had eleven seasons. It's a joke.
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  Speaker 1: But seriously, no, you're right there. You just got up here,
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  Speaker 1: gotta up here, right, I mean, hey, Trout's not putting
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  Speaker 1: together monster numbers anymore, but you're looking back at the
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  Speaker 1: career and of course he's played more than ten years
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  Speaker 1: at this point. Anyway, just slice and dice, do what
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  Speaker 1: you want with this or having fun. Comment below on
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  Speaker 1: what you're watching, who we missed, and how you would
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  Speaker 1: rank your list. We love you and we'll keep doing
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  Speaker 1: this if you like it, nice and simple. Top five
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  Speaker 1: stadiums of all time? AJ lay out your list.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if we're going all time, we're going baseball
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  Speaker 5: obviously for me. And if I have them going Wrigglelyfield,
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  Speaker 5: why now I have to I have to understand you
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  Speaker 5: have to I have to kind of quantify or I
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  Speaker 5: don't know, qualify this a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Wrigley Field before they redid.
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  Speaker 5: It with the scoreboards and all that, because it was
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  Speaker 5: just a cool place to go in Chicago. Plus, say,
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  Speaker 5: budde the hell out of me, and I love going
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  Speaker 5: there every time and breaking their hearts.
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  Speaker 3: So number five for me is Wrigley Field. Number four for.
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  Speaker 5: Me is whatever the heck they call San Francisco's Park now,
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  Speaker 5: just because it's a beautiful view.
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  Speaker 3: I love playing there. It's one of the best ballparks.
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  Speaker 5: Once you're in the ball field and you're on the
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  Speaker 5: field and you look out and you see the water.
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  Speaker 5: Plus I got to see Barry Bonce at six hundred
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  Speaker 5: and sixty homers. Barry Bonce hit seven home runs, seven
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  Speaker 5: hundred home runs. And also Greg Maddox got just three
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  Speaker 5: hundred to win there against US, and I was the
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  Speaker 5: last hitter. I got a hit and they took him
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  Speaker 5: out of the game. We didn't score and we lost.
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  Speaker 5: So yes, I've seen some special moments there for me.
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  Speaker 5: Then number three for me is Safego Slash t Mobile
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  Speaker 5: Park out in Seattle. Why I loved hitting there I
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  Speaker 5: love going to Seattle, and I got my first big
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  Speaker 5: league homer there, and it's where Phil Hummer through a
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  Speaker 5: perfect game and I got to catch it. So there's
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  Speaker 5: special memories for me in Seattle, and it's where I
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  Speaker 5: kind of felt like I became a big.
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  Speaker 3: Leader when I hit my first time run.
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  Speaker 5: Number two for me, you best cellular field now called
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  Speaker 5: Rate Field, Why because I played there for eight years.
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  Speaker 5: It was my longest ten your home stadium. We won
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  Speaker 5: a World Series there, we want playoff games there, and
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  Speaker 5: it was always just a great place to go. And
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  Speaker 5: then last, but not least for me, Number one is
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  Speaker 5: Old Yankee Stadium. I don't even have to explain why
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  Speaker 5: Old Yankee Stadium was the best, just because it was
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  Speaker 5: Old Yankee Stadium and every great player almost of all
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  Speaker 5: time got to step foot on there.
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  Speaker 3: It had the best atmosphere.
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  Speaker 5: I was fortunate enough to play playoff games there, one
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  Speaker 5: of the coolest places you just walked around.
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  Speaker 3: You felt historic just stepping in the batter's box.
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  Speaker 5: And plus when I got to play there, I mean
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  Speaker 5: they had Jeter and Bernie and the Core four and
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  Speaker 5: you're facing Mariano within her sammn so just an awesome place.
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  Speaker 5: And by the way, honorable mentioned Metronome. Why was my
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  Speaker 5: first home stadium in the big leagues. I know it
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  Speaker 5: wasn't iconic, but it was just a cool place to
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: say you got to play.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: So those are my five. If you don't like them,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I don't care. Those are my five.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: You don't like him, I don't care.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: I love them.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I love talking about stadiums like aj Aj didn't even
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: get He probably talked twenty minutes on why each stadium
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: and stories and all that stuff. But like when he
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: was mentioning his stadiums, they're not on my list, but
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I get like chills on my neck because even as
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: a kid going to these stadiums, going to different stadiums,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: it's like imprinted in my brain when you walk into
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: a stadium and you like, look out over the field.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I grew up going to Vet the Vet Veterans Stadium
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: in Philly, probably one of the biggest dumps when you
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: talk to players of all time.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: But walking in and seeing that.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Just burnt bright green turf, the astro turf, it's almost yellow,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: like it just it's imprinted on my mind and something
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: about stadiums like I love it. So I don't really
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: care what anybody's list is. Your list is your list,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: and there's like nostalgic reasons for all of them. So
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I'm on board with AJ's.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: List, okay, and you crafts are also actually real quick.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I'll just throw this in there. I love I don't
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: know if it's number one for me, but it's high up.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I two went to Yankee Stadium and I went to
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: crappy che Stadium lot both growing up. Yankee Stadium was
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: special and it was almost an impossible task for them
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: to replicate, and they didn't. They could not replicate it
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: almost by any means. It was just so no.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Crutz, no, no, they can't. They can't. But how can you?
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: How can you?
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: How can you replicate the fact that the upper deck
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: was like this steep like it like there's so many
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: things that couldn't be replicated safety wise, but also like,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: why do I want to go to a new stadium
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: that has the uncomfortablenesses of an old stadium? So, I mean,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: that's true, they tried, but it's just a different atmosphere.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: That's fair. You got to make it bougie for the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: New York crowd. So what's your list?
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: My list, and I don't know that this is necessarily
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the order, and they're all different reasons, but I'll start
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: with five. I think on my list five is Camden Yards.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Just yep, the fact, the fact that Camden Yards is
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: like kind of like the fourth front of new stadiums
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: that came in, and how they've kept it, the way
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: that they have something about the whole atmosphere everything there.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I love it, and I got I gotta look back
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: to see what my number four is here so that
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I don't mess it up. Coughton Stadium, you gave it
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to I pick Kaufman because I think it's one of
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: the most underrated. You look at it, You're like, eh,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: you know what, it's not nothing crazy, But I mean
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: we made two World Series runs when I was there,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: like it was and I got cut halfway through the
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: second season when we finally won it. But something about
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: that stadium in a playoff atmosphere will always have a
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: place in my heart. And I was gonna put I
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: was gonna put Miller Park there now American Family Financial
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Field or something, but that's a dome and that's a
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: whole another list for me. So number three Fenway Park.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I've never been at Fenway whether the Red Sox are
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: in a playoff hunt. I've been there for a wild
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: card game. I've been there during COVID when there's no fans.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I've been there when the Red Sox are not in
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: the playoff hunt and the team stinks. There's an energy
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: in that park that hasn't for me, hasn't been duplicated
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: in any stadium. And I've heard the fans crazy, and
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I've heard them booing and hating their team, like it's
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: just something about that, like small, quaint feel. It's not
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: there's no upper deck. It's for me, there's something. There's
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: something really really cool about that place, Citizens Bank Park,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: kind of like AJ and Seattle first ever big league
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: homer and the fact that you know, that was my
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: opportunity to be in the big leagues and I got
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: an opportunity.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I had been in the big leagues the year.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Before with the Pirates, but it was something that you know,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: wasn't really much of an opportunity. I finally got an
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: opportunity with Philly, and I grew up a Phillies fan,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: but I grew up a veteran stadium Phillies fan. So
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to play at citizens. I just think you know the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: atmosphere there in the playoffs that we were at, the
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: atmosphere in the fact that you know you're a local
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: kid playing for the team that you grew up watching.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Always that stadium will always have a place in my heart.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: And p and C Park. P and C Park is
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: not just my debut, yes, but I've seen thirty thousand
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: people in those stands. I've seen three to four thousand
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: people in those stands, and just everything about it, the ambiance,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the place where it sets right next to the river
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: when it's freezing, when it's hot. Something about being there
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: just gives so much energy to me as a player.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: And I've had awesome moments there. I've had some pretty
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: crappy moments if you look at my stats, but just
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: something about where you make your big league debut. And
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I have a hard time believing anybody would argue with
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: me that there's a better like visual esthetic field than
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: PNC Park.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: That's a good call for number one. Is there aha
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: a better visually asthetic pretty field?
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, the only one that it comes close is
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: San Francisco as far as looking out across when you're
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: sitting there and you can see the water and all that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Other than that, PNC Philly's pretty good too.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: People don't realize from Philly from the from the press box,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: you can see downtown Philly a lot, you know. So
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: there's there's there's certain ones that have different fields depending
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: on where you're sitting, and some of them actually the
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: higher up you go, the better views, you believe it
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: or not get So, yeah, PNC's up there, San Frans
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: up there, Philly's up there. As far as views, after that,
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: you know, you kind of start running. I mean, like
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: I said, Wrigley was great until they put those scoreboards in.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: You can see all the drunk people out there on
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: the buildings. But uh yeah, those are probably the top three.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Do you guys want to see the list? Not my list?
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: The list top ten?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: It rotten Tomato is.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: It's rotten tomatoes. And every park is the bestest, Every
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: park is ninety nine point nine percent. But here it
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: is from Fox Sports, and I'll read it too because
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I know there's podcast crowd listening, Citizens Bank ten, Corsfield nine,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I love Coursefield, Peco Park eight also a great one.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: We talked about Yankee Stadium. That's seven. Six is PNC
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Park we talked about Oracle Park or whatever you call it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: In San Francisco at five four is Camden Yards Love
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: three Dodger Stadium to Wrigley Field and one Fenway Park.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Hey you guys, well, I guess say here's the Dame five.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: You didn't go Camden. You didn't want Camden in there.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: To me, that's probably to me, that's the best, like
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: nostalgia kind of old maybe for me growing up. I
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: went to the park when it first opened and then
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: still feels like it hits in.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: Terms, still has the same stuff in Sidastic. It looks
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: exactly the same scott as it did. The clubhouses and
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: everything are exactly the same.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I mean it's sometimes you have to ring.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: I know, but I but we rate them differently. As
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: a player, I rate things differently in how they were.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, I listen, I played in old Tiger Stadium right,
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: like how places iconic as oh. I played an old
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: County stadium in Milwaukee. I played in Joe Robbie right
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: in Miami. I played in I mean where else? I mean,
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: where else.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Did I play? I played the King Doome right, I
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: played in the Vet Right.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: These places were cool, but they didn't have the History
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: of a of a Yankee.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, Fenway is cool.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: I I didn't enjoy Fenway, but I didn't do well there,
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: so I didn't really you know, it wasn't one of
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: those places where I had great memories of other than
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: the time we beat them in the playoffs.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Other than that I didn't have.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: I didn't do very well in Fenway, So it's not
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: like I look back. I always look back at the
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: places I did well. Those are the ones you enjoyed.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Montreal. Did you play in Montreal and.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I played in Puerto Rico? Does that count? You're supposed
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: to go to Montreal.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: I got stuck going to Puerto Rico instead, So I mean,
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: Nean Francisco to Puerto Rico is right right next to
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: each other.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: How was that, by the way, because that ballpark's yeah,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: that ballpark's been now.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: It wasn't very good. It rained so hard we had
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: to evacuate.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: We had to evacuate the clubhouse because they were like,
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: it's going to flood, and so we had to walk
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: out and they had to build a ramp for us
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: to go to the bus because the water was about
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: knee high in the parking lot. So in order for
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: us to get to the bus, we had to walk
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: out on this ramp. They had to build a ramp.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: I mean I also played at Fort Bragg Stadium when
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: they built like the Field of Dreams one.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I mean that was pretty awesome. I mean there's a lot.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I played in a lot of stadiums, a lot of
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: the old stadiums, in a lot of the new stadiums.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: So these are all great. Yeah, I'm a Wrigglely over
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Fenway guy. I mean they're both iconic and super unique,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: but I take Wrigglely over Fenway. So this list is
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: not perfect for me on our way out. Is there
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: one that stands out where you're like, oh man, that's brutal.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know the Coliseum was part of a
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: quiet quit situation recently, but anything else stand out where
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: you're just like, ah, I either hated playing there or
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: tell me, like the internal Organs that place where absolute shit.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I remember AJ going into Wrigley Field
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: visiting clubhouse and I was like, do they just bring
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: half the team? There's no way you fit that many
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: people in here.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: How about Qualcom where you had to walk underneath the
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: stands to get to the dugout. You had to you
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: walked out of the tunnel and you had to walk
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: on You had to do like a maze through the
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: stands to get to the dugout, and.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Then you could run.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: The best is you could run into other You could
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: run into like the other team, kind of like Oakland,
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: where in Oakland you met in the middle behind the fans,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: like you could run right into people underneath the stands.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I forget.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: I was talking to somebody the other day and they're
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: remember that time we both tried to use the bathroom.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: I didn't know the visitors knew about that bathroom in
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: San Diego. I forget who told me that story, But
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: it was like, oh, yeah, I remember that because he's like,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: I didn't know the even visitors knew about this bathroom.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: It was like a hidden bathroom down the underneath the
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: erector set. I mean, there's some listen. The old stadiums
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: were terrible. The vet crowds mentioned. Milwaukee County Stadium was
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: the clubhouse was smaller than Wriggly old Wrigley, I mean
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: Tiger Stadium, old Tiger Stadium because stand up in the dugout,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: because the only Ken Rosenthal could stand up because the
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: dugout was about this high. I mean, listen, there's some
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: there were some bad places back in the day.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: My own.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah caveat to this list is there's some new stadiums that, like,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: like Great American Small Park. As much as I love
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: playing hitting there, like I just felt like they did
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: it cheap. I just felt like they had an opportunity
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: to put a stadium on the river cool, like you know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: you can kind of see downtown the other way not
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: looking out through the stadium. I just felt like they
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: did it kind of. It was just like a big
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: minor league field. So like, there's some new stadiums that
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I think they could have done a lot better than
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: they did. So that's another list for another day.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: And for now, let us know if you liked this
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and let us know what we missed or dissect lists,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: including the one we showed you at the tail end
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: there the top ten iconic list.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: The way, how is course field number nine? Course Field
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: number nine hasn't even been around that long.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: It's not iconic.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I've never won anything there wise that iconic because guys
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: can hit homers, and that's like the top ten like
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: right now, because you would go you could go way
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: back and do like Polo Grounds and Ebitts Field and
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: stuff like that.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Way before you would list course field.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: It's iconic because they can be so bad and people
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: still show up. It is a fun experience. But I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: get what you're saying. Iconic is not the word. Yeah,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: like unique, unique, yeah, mile high, whatever you want to
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: call it, all right on our way out here. Yeah,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: drop a comment if we're missing something or you want
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: to shout at ballpark out