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BONUS EPISODE: Pgh Sports Current Events - October 30, 2025 · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: Hello and welcome to another exciting edition of Pittsburgh Sports Memories Current Events.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_01: This is for the 30th of October.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um so it's usual I'm joined by Tim Hannon, my co-host.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm Steve Wirt.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: Say hi to the folks at home, Tim.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, everybody.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: So on Tuesday's game, we're in Philadelphia, and um it was on ESPN, so I got to watch it actually.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I didn't realize that until halfway through the game, but I did watch it.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: So I saw Sidney Crosby like score a goal that like was unreal.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_01: He like bounced it off three people and it went in.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: It literally bounced on Philly Defender, the goaltender, and like the goalpost and went in.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_01: So uh yeah, and then overtime overtime was just like weird.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like, so there the Flyers score a goal and it seems like the game's over.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_01: So the Flyers being the Flyers, they decide to like like people are just like skating off the ice and they they slash one of the penguins players and it causes like a big scrum.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I guess Sidney Crosby was leaving because they thought the game was over, and so they all kind of start to fight, right?
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: And like I guess Letang went over to the linesman and said, Hey, that's offsides, you need to review that, but nobody realized that.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: So after like a five or ten minute delay, they finally review it, and it turns out that the guy from Philadelphia was offside, so the goal doesn't count.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: And what had happened was because of that, and I I forget how this rule started, but I do they have the off-the-bench rule.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: You've heard of that, right, Tim?
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like if you come off the bench, you're kicked out of the game.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I think you actually can get a suspension for a couple of games for that, can't you?
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: I think.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: I think yeah.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, depending on how series it is.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I forget there's like a whole backstory to that, I know that.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: But so what happened was Crosby gets kicked out.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_01: I think one of Philly's top players get kicked out, and the Penguins kill off.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: There was only like 30 seconds to a minute left in the overtime, and they killed it off.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_01: And it was weird because for the shootout, the Penguins didn't have Crosby.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was the Flyers player was that Trevor Ziggress.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: He's he's a little bit of a punk.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_00: I I if there was one good thing that came out of that game, it it's the fact that uh Penguins Flyers has been, you know, kind of a dormant rivalry for the last few years.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's back after last night, it's back.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was that was probably the best thing that came out of that game.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: Not in that the penguins got a point, thanks to Crosby, with that kind of fluky goal late.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: That was the other great thing.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: Just hearing all their fans boo him.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: Two decades of that.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: It happens all the time.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's like they just like it's happened since his rookie year when didn't they punt knock out two of his teeth and hatcher?
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that they scored a bunch of goals against him after that.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's like maybe you should stop like taunting this guy.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's fun that that's still happening after all these years.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_00: And it's fun that the penguins are winning.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh with with a bunch of kids, uh, you know, this is way ahead of schedule.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: So I I don't know how long this lasts, Steve, but I'll enjoy it.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the uh goaltender Sylvas, Arturo Silvos looked really good.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_01: That was that was really the only reason they were really in the game because he kept them in the game.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_01: They were really outplayed for much of the second and third period.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_01: Kind of late in the third period, the penguins came back and started to dominate the play again.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_01: But for much of the second period, the Flyers dominated.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: But and that Russian kid is lighting it up in uh Wilkesbury.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it's really uh they got some tough decisions to make.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's a good problem they have.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, do you bring these guys up and just kind of waste a year hoping you make the playoffs and they get some playoff experience?
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_01: Or because I mean they're they're not gonna make the top.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: I still don't think they have the goaltending to make any kind of a run.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_00: I I I I I think I think Dubas is I think Dubas is still committed to, you know, I don't think he's gonna be like, oh, we're winning games, so let's, you know, make these huge trades and take on big contracts and trade away all our draft picks that he stockpiled.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's still planning for the future, but hey, if they can win in the meantime, more power to him.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's kind of what the Capitals did a couple years back.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_01: They just rebuilt on the fly and they've been very competitive.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: Good comp.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: Speaking of the Capitals, uh uh you were lucky you didn't have to experience ESPN uh hockey coverage in all its glory.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like literally the overtime was played on a split split screen.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like you had no choice, you had to watch it on a split screen.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_01: While they televised the first five minutes of the Capitals um Stars game.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't even like the Capitals Rangers or Capitals somebody Islanders, somebody they're like a big time rival with.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_01: It was Capitol Stars because it's Alex Ovechkin, and it was the first five minutes of the game.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_01: Why do you schedule so close together?
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because they were doing this triple header.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's why the Penguins game started at 6 p.m.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: Because they were doing this triple header thing.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, then you need to make sure the game starts.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't went into overtime, and then you had, like you said, you had the delay and everything.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: I I that stuff doesn't bother me too much, Steve, because the NHL is so bad at marketing itself.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: If if if if you know if somebody wants to do something that seems a little gimmicky, but it maybe pulls in more fans, I'm I'm honestly all for it at this point.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it could it could have been better.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it had to be better than eight 18 innings of a baseball game that was played the other day.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_01: So whatever.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, woo-hoo, go Dodgers and Blue Jays.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so excited about whoever wins the head and woo-hoo.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: Well, uh now we're starting our football Palooza.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_01: Cute music.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so uh football Palooza is still going on, that's why we're doing these weekly instead of monthly right now.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um Pitt beats NC State.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh this was the biggest magic trick since uh David Copperfield walked through the Great Wall of China or floated, levitated across the Grand Canyon.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's kind of up there with uh any of the magic tricks you've ever seen because Pitt had absolutely no business winning this game.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_01: I guess maybe NC State's not that good.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: I thought NC State was at least a decent team, but apparently NC State has no secondary.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: So Pitt just absolutely uh Heichel had like 420, not had he had 428 yards passing, three TDs and no interceptions.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_01: If you watch the game, Pitt literally kept running like a pass play and NC State couldn't cover it.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_01: There was just this one where like they would kind of run from the numbers to the hash mark, and that was open all day, and good for Heichel being able to spot it and find it.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like they must have run that play five to ten times.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_01: And um and they they win 53 to 34.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they were down to like I think a walk-on playing inside linebacker, and they moved the guy from defensive end to linebacker.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it it like that probably like I know they gave up 34 points, but honestly, 14 of those points were in absolute garbage time.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm gonna say this is probably Pat Narduz's greatest defensive the coaching job ever because that that was impressive.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: Him and uh Randy Bates did I I I did not last, I did not expect them to win this game.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um they do play Stanford, but it's in Stanford, and I could see them losing that game.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: Once again, I just don't have faith in Pitt with that.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: The defense is still banged up.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um I think one of the wide receivers got knocked out at the end of the half.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: He was diving for the end zone.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if he had a concussion.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um Desmond Reed is hurt again.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_01: He almost made it to the fourth quarter, but he was in a walking boot.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: So um does Pitt have uh can Pitt at least win at Stanford, get to seven wins for the year, Tim?
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I guess they have a chance with him at quarterback.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: I mean Yeah, I mean I I at this point I can't he just keeps winning, right?
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: He just keeps winning.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: He's he's 400 yards.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: He didn't throw any any interceptions, which is that's the reason um Holstein if Holstein would have been throwing interceptions, he'd probably still be playing.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: Because they probably would have won against West Virginia and Louisville.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: They they would have at least won against Louisville, which would have been the really important game.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um which I'm still that still hurts that they lost because they'd be in first place right now.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um but but yeah, he he just keeps winning.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: Now you were talking about Kenny Johnson.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean that that's gonna hurt, I think.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh see, I don't well, you never know who's gonna play and who's not because there's no man it's like the NFL where there's a mandatory injury report.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: So your guess is as good as mine.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: Kenny Johnson could be dead, and we wouldn't know.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: Well, especially with Narduzzi.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, ooh, you know, is he is he dead?
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_00: Is he alive?
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: Is he still on the team?
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: Is he did he transfer in the middle of the night?
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like you'll never know because I'm Pat Marduzie.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: Ha ha ha.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: So so good luck, Frank Reich, who is the coach of Stanford, weirdly enough.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and Stanford stinks.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: Uh they're not terrifying, I think they're like a four-win.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_01: They beat Florida State at home.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, in Stanford, but they have a losing record.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean Yeah.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: But they're good enough to beat Pitt.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, and you have to go all the way across the country.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: So that's it's not gonna be an easy game.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: But boy, Steve, if they can win that, then they have a bye week to maybe get a little bit healthier.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: They're gonna need somebody, one of the linebackers got to come back by Notre Dame.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody's or Georgia Tech's uh with Georgia Tech's first, right?
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: No, Notre Dame's first.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: So the They need they need a linebacker to somebody's gotta get healthy because you cannot be playing this walk-on against the they're not gonna be they're not gonna be able to score enough points to beat those teams.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_00: Agreed.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but like it's just like the penguins.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm like, I'm I'll just enjoy this while it lasts because it wasn't supposed to happen.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_01: It is very similar, yeah.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it Mason Heinchel, he you know how many uh how many big four schools offered him a scholarship?
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: One yeah.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: And that wasn't the University of Toledo, uh well, and it's like coming into the season, it's like who's who's gonna be the best quarterback?
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_00: Is it Drew Aller or is it Arch Manning?
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like neither of those guys really lived up to the hype, and and then you have this freshman from nowhere.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, I know it's only four games in, but and and I know that like last year we were kind of saying it's a study line.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: So so again, like uh pump the brakes, I get it.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: But I like I said, I'll enjoy it.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_01: I think he looks better just because I remember Holstein was throwing more interceptions.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Holstein last year was doing a lot, like the West Virginia game last year was the perfect example.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's like he's good in the first half, then he has like this like disastrous, you know, third and half of a fourth quarter, but then he totally redeems himself at the end.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: That was kind of his during last year, and then it fell apart at the end of the season, then it and then it really fell apart at the beginning of this season.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: So so yeah, he was not as consistent as Heintrill has been, but still it's it's a small sample size, and and he can't.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's that's what surprised me is he's not throwing interceptions.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_01: Now he almost threw now.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_01: I will say against NC State, the guy did drop one.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: But that and he had another one that was kind of tipped, but I didn't think it could have been intercepted.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he has had a few that were still he's still an 18-year-old freshman at the end of the day.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: So he's at most he would have had one interception in that game, I think, legitimately.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: So so I mean, three to one, I'll take a three to one touchdown interception ratio any day of the week.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_01: That that's good quarterbacking right there.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: And he's good, he he's good too.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like he runs when he runs, he he's not as good.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: I think Holstein's better on the run, but he's effective on the run.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: That that they picked up a big fourth down.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: They ran that little Kansas City Chiefs play they run.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: And he instead of just being locked on to that running back like he has the last five times, he hit the tight end down the field.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: And he's reading the defenses like that was a read.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you can see his head moving.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: He's not just locking on.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes he does, but he is making progress.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: So they go as far as he goes, I guess, at this point.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I totally agree.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: And it's the same thing with the penguins.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: They're gonna go as far as that Silvas can take them, that that goalie.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: As far as that goalie takes them, that's as far as the penguins are gonna go.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, again, it's it's it's been nice for both of those teams because you weren't expecting anything, and it's been fun.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's been the complete opposite of the third thing we're gonna talk about.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the third thing would be we're sticking with the football Palooza.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: That would be your Pittsburgh Steelers, Tim.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: Did you go to that game?
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: I did.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: Lots of Packers fans, dude.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: I was I was ashamed.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: I was ashamed.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like the I've never seen like outside that there was a San Francisco game a couple years ago where with Kenny Pickett a quarterback where we got blown out, and there were a ton of San Francisco.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: What's going on with that, Tim?
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like I mean, the the the game was horrible.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the game wasn't horrible.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: They led in the first half, what, 16 to 7, because the Green Bay kicker couldn't kick a field goal.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: And then they fell apart in the second half because the defense just the defense stinks.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like if you have a competent quarterback that's not named Dylan Gabriel, um, they're gonna expose the Steelers' defense.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_01: They're they're not much I don't think the Steelers defense is they're slightly better than Cincinnati's.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: I mean Yeah, yeah.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: The so so so first off, going back to the fans, that that honestly didn't surprise me.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, number one, Green Bay fans travel well, and number two, those night games, people always sell their tickets.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: So even even uh if it's not the opposing fan, there's always somebody like you you kind of like know the faces that sit around you.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, and you always see different people because because people don't want to come to those games, get home after midnight, be dragging for work the next day.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: So that's it.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: Or you'd have to take a day off of work for a football game.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Now, if you're traveling in from Wisconsin, you're you probably have a hotel nearby, it's a whole different thing.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna take that Monday off.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yes, my my wife works at the airport.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_01: She said if you work the airport on a Monday, it's it's a madhouse, people flying back out after a Steelers home game, which is wild.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: And even the hotel, I live pretty close to the stadium.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: The hotel by the stadium, the parking lot was totally full on Saturday night.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: So so that was the fan thing now on on the defense.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the defense is the secondary.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: I They don't have they don't have really good safeties, do they?
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: And the corners aren't Darius Slay.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: I think I think what's his name can still play.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um Ramsey.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think Ramsey can still play.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_01: Porter, I don't think, is bad, but Darius Slay just he's he wasn't he was kind of good five years ago, but he's not he's definitely not good now.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: And and Porter, Porter was real bad on Sunday.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: So was Chuck Clark.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: Deshaun Elliott's probably the only one that was playing decently, and now he's out.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: He's uh yeah, he's on IR for four weeks.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: I thought I heard that.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: I heard that on the radio.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: I did not see that.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: I thought he was week to week last I heard.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: But either either way, he's gonna be probably be out for a while.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: That was that was not a good-looking injury.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that one pass to the tight end that he got hurt on, that was like the biggest there is a god.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: Because that that should have been intercepted.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: When I saw that pass go up the air, I said, oh, somebody's gotta pick that off.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: But no, like once again, when you have a good player, like great players make good, great plays, and that that tight end, who is his name?
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: Kraft or whatever, the kid from South Dakota.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: He he's really good, and he made a great play on them.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: He made great plays all night, so he he's just a very good player.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it's it's it's I just don't know if it's fixable.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this reminds me of that 2002 season.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: Unless they're gonna trade trade the Steelers defense for the Browns defense straight up.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: And and like you said, there's there's the this is kind of a pattern around the league.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Dallas, Cincinnati, Baltimore this year.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: There's the Baltimore's more injury related, but there's a bunch of teams that just have weak defenses, and and we're definitely among those.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: And and like I said, this reminds me of that go-to season with the Tommy Maddox where you had to score 35 points or else you lost.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: So uh and and that's not on the offense.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even want to talk about the offense because there's nothing to talk about.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't do anything wrong, they scored 25 points.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_01: I realized one of them you could call a garbage touchdown, maybe, but I don't think Rogers played bad.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: I think their scheme, like, it was gonna be tough.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: Green Bay has a pretty good defense, and their whole scheme is like dink it short and hope you can run around after the catch.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Green Bay has a really fast defense and they tackle really well.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, there was no missed tackles.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like, if you miss a tackle in the NFL anyway against any team, you're gonna give up like 10 to 15 yards because of the speed on offense, but Green Bay wasn't missing tackles and they were playing really well on defense.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how they lost the couple games they lost.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like maybe Jordan Love had a bad game, but yeah, the offense, the offense wasn't perfect, but I mean you're nitpicking if you're you know, if you're like DK Metcalf took that personal foul, that was bad.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um Well, they missed the there was a call that got missed on an um an offsides for green base.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: That they thought was a free play.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: So but but like again, you're nitpicking.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like you said, the offense has been fine.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: The offense has done enough to win.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the offense is not the problem.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: The offense is not the problem, 100%.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: And and I don't think it's it's not I don't think it's fixable.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: I really don't like you can't fix that in season.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I see it's it's would you say it's the Joshes and Joes, not the I I said that before the season started, I thought they didn't have the people on defense.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I th I don't think the scheme is great.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: I like I said, I think I said this last week.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: I've never been a Thoreau Austin fan.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think Mike Tomlin needs to bring in a def like like he did with Arthur Smith, bring in a coordinator that's been like a head coach that's like a real coordinator and then hand the reins over and keep your paw prints off of it.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: That being said, um you can't you can only do so much with the players you have, and I they don't have good players right now.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: They just don't have good players.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: And again, if you go back to 2002, remember after that season, everybody wanted Cower fired, everybody wanted all the coaches fired.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but then two years later, they were in the AFC championship game and they had a great defense again because you got Troy Paul Malls Mike Taylor, you had Chris Hope, you had you know, you replaced the Brent Alexanders and Lee Flowers and and Scott Shields and and Chad Scott and Dwayne Watching.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: You replaced all those guys with you know guys that that you know fit whatever scheme you were running.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: So so you we're just we're so apt to blame the coaches all the time in Pittsburgh.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: And again, I'm not absolving them.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like Well, well, it obviously they scouted these players and picked these players, so they bear that responsibility.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm saying.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not absolving them.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying that at this point, um it you can't if you change coaches right now, it's not going to make the defense good.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: That well, yeah, we'll see after the season.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: If they're gonna change coaches, they'll do it after the season.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: So we'll see what happens.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um and they keep picking up guys off the scrap, Heath.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: They're back to this.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: They've done this the last couple years, like, oh, we're gonna go out and get this veteran that was good like five years ago who nobody in the league wants.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how's that gonna fix your problem?
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's just if this guy was so good, he'd be on a team somewhere playing.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like, the only time you get like a deal like that is like if you get like a minka Fitzpatrick where he's just not fitting in well with the coaching and whatever team, like, and that doesn't happen very often.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: So Omar Hines should go talk to Kyle Dubas.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: And because it's it's rebuilding doesn't mean you necessarily have to stink, you know.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh like you said with the capitals, like you can kind of rebuild on the fly, and I know that's what they're trying to do, but um, like you said, they're just sort of throwing these little pieces together like Darius Slay and Ramsey and and um Jabrell Peterson.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think Ramsey is a bad signing if you had if Joey Porter was playing as well as he should be, right, and you had another corner that was good if he would be you would be fine.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: If he was the DeShey Townsend, yeah, yeah, you would be fine.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: He'd be great at that.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: Or even filling in for a week or two when one of those other guys is hurt, he's fine.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah Yeah, but but and the rest of the like even the line, Patrick Queen has not been good.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh there's been zero pass rush.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: So so the rest of the defense isn't good.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: TJ Watt.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, where's TJ Watt been?
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: When's the last time he had a sack or made a play?
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he he did have a couple games in a row with sacks, but last week he was non-existent.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know, but that's his MO in the big games, he just like disappears.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like not that Bettis didn't do that at times in his career, but I don't know.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's tough to watch.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I so of course it's gonna get tougher this week, Steve, because they play the 2007 Patriots this week.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I bet yeah, something tells me they beat the Colts.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know why they they really shouldn't.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: The Colts should like run them right out of the building, and they might.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: They might, but just isn't that the way the NFL goes?
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: And especially the Colts are kind of like we're the islanders to the Colts.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: We're the Colts kryptonite.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: We always are for whatever reason.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: The Steelers always seem to beat the Colts.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: And who knows?
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: You know, maybe maybe it will, maybe it won't happen, but yeah.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: The Colts should win that game easily.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: They can because they can not only they can run the ball.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody forgets Jonathan uh is like having a great season.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: I think he has the most rushing yards in the NFL.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't forget it.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: He's on my fantasy team, Steve.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: He's gonna he's he's got me in uh second place right now in my fantasy league.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: So trust me, I'm I'm how are you in second with that guy?
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: That guy's like every week has like a hundred yards rushing and two touchdowns.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of bad luck.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, he if Green Bay can score 35 points, that means Indianapolis should be able to score 70.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's like on paper.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: On paper.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: And and they are the 2007 Patriots.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: Did you see that stat where the 2007 Patriots averaged uh like three point, it was here, I have it here, 3.19 points per drive.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: This year's Colts are averaging 3.38 points per drive.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: They're literally better than the 2007 Patriots, which we never thought we'd see a team like that again.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Daniel, you can't stop Daniel Jones, Tim.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: That that's just it.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: You can't stop Daniel Jones.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently not.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: And and so on paper, yeah, they should win.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: This game should be over by halftime.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: But like you said, it's the NFL and goofy things happen, and the Sierra's backs are against the wall, and their defense is gonna you know, hopefully step up.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: But we'll we'll see.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'll I'll believe it when I see it.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not I'm not going to expect that by any means.
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