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3 Guys Before The Game - Thanks For Having Us - Baylor Edition (Episode 508) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Hey, everybody, music's on. That means it's time for us to chat.
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  Welcome in. It's three guys before the Game, episode number five hundred
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  and eight title, Thanks for having us a Baylor edition. And I'm kind
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  of hesitant to even use that kind of has you know why thanks for having
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  us? Yeah, because we'll go ahead because I I got the reason why
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  you do, so go ahead. Okay, I mean I get it,
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  I understand it. But they're the nicest people that we stop in the entire
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  circuit. Nicest really nicest people ever. Yeah, nicest people ever. Interesting,
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  gave us a parking pass. The only one closer to the stadium was
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  the guy whose names on the stadium, McClain. It was the only guy
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  that had one closer than he did. You go in there and they're they're
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  just fan. They were fantastic still here, it's yeah, they do it
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  the way, the old school way, the way it's supposed to be.
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  And uh so I'm a little bit hesitant to say thanks for having us.
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  By also when you win like that, maybe just like get out of town.
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  That's what I thought you were gonna say. But here, so here's
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  my retort to that. I think It's the phrases great in two parts.
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  It's one when you when you roll in and you and you hammer somebody,
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  right, especially a team that thinks they're gonna beat you. That's really when
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  it's the best. Like when we used to go up to pitt right,
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  and they thought they were the best basketball team in the world, and you
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  beat them and you can just thanks for everyone, see you, thanks for
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  having us. But it's also when you snatch victory from the jaws of defeat,
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  or the other team thinks they've got you and they're celebrating and you walk
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  out, it's also a good thanks for having us, and you're out the
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  door. You know what I think it is. I think it's this and
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  you have to see me. You have to go. Oh, let's get
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  on the bus. We'll talk about the change. It's a weird game because
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  up in just a little bit. So this is it our post Baylor recap.
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  And also we're going to get into a Mountaineer basketball yesterday afternoon at the
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  Coliseum, West Virginia defeats Beller Men in a tight game. Shout out Jesse
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  Edwards and o Free Nevey. Yeah, making key plays in a game that
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  our secondary logo. Okay, all right, fellas, here we go.
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  Say it's an episode eight hundred dot com. I said that, yeah,
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  there, Hoppy Mountaineer Munch the new logo. Yeah, that's some of our
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  friends in Scheperstown. Then the coffee things. Coffee, I'm having a little
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  bit right now, as a matter of fact, I'll pick it a little
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  bit right in here. Yeah. Coffee, that's why you're all wired.
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  Coffee is running off the shelves. Coffee is running off the shelves. So
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  we'll talk about that coming up in just a little bit. Meanwhile, again,
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  have not talked to the Hopster Bobster about the football game because we've been
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  bouncing all over the place. What was your takeaway of Saturday night in Waco?
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  Wow? As is a lot to unpack there. I'll just start with
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  the macro and then we'll drill down. First of all, look, get
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  your eighth win. Vegas had your four and a half, You get your
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  eighth win on the road. That is Neil Brown's best season, best coaching
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  job, solidifies his job. You're going to a bowl game. All good.
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  The second thing is, this is what we talked about all week when
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  we said, look at the stats, Baylor's bad, West Virginia is better.
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  Don't see how any way that Baylor can be in this game unless,
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  of course, it's unless they have some amazing special teams plays, unless West
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  Virginia makes mistakes, and unless in the second half Baylor thinks they're right there.
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  Then it's then they they're saying themselves, why not go win the game?
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  What the heck their competitors. Yeah, so that's exactly what happened.
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  The third thing is And you know, Brad, how many times over the
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  last couple of years have we looked at West Virginian in a situation where West
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  Virginia needed points and we thought, who's gonna make a play? Yeah?
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  Like who? Who? You don't? You don't? Who need to go
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  to? Who do you go to? What? And And how many times
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  you did not have confidence that you had players or had the ability to make
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  a play. And in the last minute of the game, guys making plays.
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  And now with this team you have confidence. You have not not just
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  hopeing confidence that are Garrett Green or Jaheem Whiter, c J. Donalds,
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  Hudson, Clement Taylor, Zach Frazier, the offensive one, that guy that
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  guys can make plays which you haven't had, you haven't had for a while.
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  Oh boy, So those are my three quick takeaways. A lot more,
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  but let me start there. Think it was very well done. You'll
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  get an A for your book report today, thank you. Was I didn't
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  think they were winning that game. I did not think they were winning that
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  game. That last drive. I mean, get we'll get into all the
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  stuff that went wrong, and really, you're you're right, and I know
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  you'll you'll dig down into what you said in the open, so I won't
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  steal that. I know where you're going to here exactly right that last drive
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  that there was a lot happening right there that I thought not only encapsulated this
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  season, but a lot of those individual guys. First of all, Garrett
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  Green season. I know I've said it every show for the last five or
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  six shows, and I'm gonna keep saying it. That dude was incredible this
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  year. For a guy that you didn't know what he would give you and
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  you had questions, you could have hoped, Neil Brown could have hoped that
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  freaking guy balled this year. Man, I mean he was elite, not
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  just kind of good, elite. And before you text me, I know
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  he wasn't perfect, So don't text me with all the stuff to win.
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  I know you I'm gonna get those. He was excellent, Yes, I
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  mean absolutely, I said that drove the bus on that team, behind that
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  offensive line. So first of all, you get Garrett Green, who's out
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  there as if they're up forty points and not even worried about anything. I
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  give me the ball at any timeouts, don't care, don't need them,
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  right, pulled a Dana, don't need timeouts, Let's just go. We'll
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  just march down the field Jaheim White with the big play offensive line, and
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  let's stay there for a minute. Because it was alternately one of the saddest
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  things you'll see and one of the most impressive things you'll see was Zach Frasier.
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  I had somebody to stay at the basketball game, Tony say to me,
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  were you at the game? Game? Very similar to Dashaun Butler,
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  an all time great in one of their final moments on the field, for
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  you sustains an injury, so horrifically sad for Zach, who'd been so durable
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  for his whole career to have to go through that. The part that will
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  remain, I think forever and become part of Mountain your lore is what that
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  kid did. So how about he's picking Hudson Clement up and carrying him first
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  of all, assisting nice assist while something is seriously injured on him, so
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  he gets the result, gets the first down, and then the presence of
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  mind to get off the field without using any of the runoff. So that
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  was part one, an unbelievably selfless play from one of the most selfless guys
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  that's been in this program and one of the best. But a couple other
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  things had to happen too. Brandon Yeates had to be aware enough to not
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  be like, what's going on? Somebody here? What right? He could
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  have been totally confused. He didn't even hesitate. He just is immediately in
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  and okay, I got the ball, give me the ball, and then
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  had perfect snaps in one of the most pressure pack drives of the f season
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  with your backup center. Who I mean, how many times has he snapped
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  this year? I can look that up, but it's not many. Delivered
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  right on the money. There was no confusion, there was no chaos on
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  that sidelines. Fraser with an unbelievably smart, gutty gritty play, Yah right
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  there to pick it up and move you down and you get the game winning
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  touchdown. I thought of all the things that have happened this season that particular
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  play from multiple guys on that field, and that coaching staff having people ready
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  when there's wasn't a sudden change like a turnover, but that's a sudden change
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  when the guy that's played six hundred snaps for you is suddenly not on the
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  field on the most important part of the offensive line and you still walk down
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  and get a game winning touchdown. Yeah, remarking, And how about the
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  fact that Neil Brown said on the touchdown to Jahim White, said, you
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  know, we haven't run that play this year. They practiced it, hadn't
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  run it in eleven games. That's a good thing. Baylor hadn't seen it,
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  hadn't seen, I am. But to have that, you know,
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  you have to have that and to have the presence of mind to say use
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  it now out the old wheel route, man, that wheel route wheel that
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  wheel route is a killer. It's hard to guard. It used to victimize.
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  We've been victimized on multiple occasions by the old wheel route. You've used
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  it a couple of times in your history that have been pretty effective. But
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  yeah, that was that was one of the best. Dale Sparks had a
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  great photo that he put out there. Do you see that picture? So
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  Sparks had a picture where you can see the ball. It's not quite a
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  Jehem White and it's a great shot of White. You can see his eyes
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  he's looking at in the background though, and it's a little bit blurred,
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  but it's I don't know if it's the Baylor's students. I mean this is
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  a thanks for having us. Those poor Baylor people are sitting there. He
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  hadn't caught the ball yet, and there's multiple people in that cobra position they
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  like, put their hands over, put the hands over the head. They
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  immediately knew, yeah, immediately knew. Great call. Wes Hours had the
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  wheel route and the Music City Bowl to start the scoring for the Mountain he
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  was. That was the release. So Rashid's wasn't a traditional wheel route because
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  he was the quarterback, but I remember he caught one in a semi wheel
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  route motion around that far sideline there that one time. So at the risk
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  of being a prisoner the moment, I think the final drive for West Virginia,
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  you could make a pretty strong case that in WVU history that it will
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  rank among one of the all time significant drives. So why do I say
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  that several reasons. If you don't convert and you lose that game, the
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  entire dialogue on this Mountaineer program one to eighties and the optimism that you had
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  shrinks in your entire off season. Your entire off season is going to be
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  that narrative. That's one. Two. As you mentioned Zach Fraser and what
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  he did, I told Hoppy earlier today. He let me on that little
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  coffee show that he does in the morning. What Zach Fraser did should be
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  memorialized in some form of an award, whether it's down in the weight room
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  or whatever. But Zach Frazier should have an award for toughness, determination and
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  playing to the absolute end with intelligence and strengths. So he should have an
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  award all time. And then what Garrett Green did and has done now on
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  three of the last four end of halves west Virginia going to Cincinnati and then
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  the second first in the second half against Baylor, that is storybook stuff.
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  And when people want to criticize what's happened in the previous four years that West
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  Virginia has been lacking, and we say so many times and it gets repetitive,
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  Well, we got to make plays. You gotta make plays, you
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  gotta make place. Well, guess what they haven't had playmakers, and now
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  you know what they have. They have playmakers. So now don't take this
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  out of context. Don't take it out of context. Please. Pat White
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  was a playmaker. Garrett Green is a playmaker. He does things that are
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  off of the play design and he wins games. And makes plays. Okay,
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  that's what you've been lacking. And that's the intangible that separates third down
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  conversions event and eventually it separates who wins and who loses. You have to
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  have magic and you have to have special back there mentally, physically, whatever.
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  So that's another piece. And then you have the whole Jaheim White deal.
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  So in the course of two weeks, he comes from this guy that
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  didn't get a snap against Penn State because he was not ready yet and had
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  to do some things to adjusting to this level or off the field, on
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  the field, all that kind of stuff. And then you just see this
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  trend starting. And now when you put the ball in his hands for the
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  first time in a long time, guess what, West Virginia has someone that
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  can turn the corner. Yes, and then then you know what he does
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  when he turns the corner. He runs away from people. Yes, which
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  we haven't had so and then let's go to Hudson clement we'll keep killing.
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  You've got a couple more key What's he do while he does all Hudson Clemente's
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  He just catches almost everything that comes near his hands and then goes up field
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  and makes place. And then even before that, Preston Fox who injured himself
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  in his catch because he just gave every single thing he had to catch that
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  ball. Catch right, great catch. So but also real quick, when
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  we talk about great quarterback play, you have to have that too. That's
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  got to come with it. There's gonna be throws that aren't right dead on
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  the money, and you've got to make plays. These guys you're starting to
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  see them make plays, multiple guys making great plays, absolutely, you know.
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  And you talk about, well, is this program recruiting, Well,
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  yeah, I think they're recruiting Traylon Ray. He runs away from people.
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  Hudson, Clement, Jaheim White, Rodney Gallagher, all babies like still in
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  diapers. They're all gonna, you know, retention week. You keep them
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  and you keep growing this thing. CJ. Donaldson was the other fine,
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  right, he was supposed to be a tight end and they made him into
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  a running back. Seems to work. Scored a touchdown in every game except
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  two. So that to me, that drive could have changed the entire tenor
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  or the whole thing. And I at least put yourself in position to win
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  a ninth game, which doesn't happen a whole lot. So that's my takeaway.
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  Yeah, I agree one hundred percent. I mean it was just you.
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  Now, there were times, there have been a lot of times over
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  the last couple of years when the offense got the ball and you had a
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  sense of dread that what are they going to do here? They're on their
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  own seventeen what are they going to do here? What I mean, you
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  just didn't see. And now when the offense gets the well, not every
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  time, obviously, when you have a sense of excitement, something might happen
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  here, Yeah, they might do something. This is entertaining. You better
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  watch because something you know, something might happen here. And I think that
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  that also adds to the fun of watching, of watching this team which you
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  haven't had, and you have to have what happened this season on a couple
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  of occasions in that game against Baylor, to set yourself up for next year.
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  Yeah, next So this year we came into the season going like I
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  wonder, I'm not sure, I wonder, I wonder next year when you
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  go out, you go like, here we go, we got this,
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  we know how to do this. That confidence is invaluable that they didn't have.
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  You have to build that enjoy the success, see what it takes,
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  and then you can continue on well. In the mark of that confidence internally,
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  I thought was the end of that first half where Neil wasn't trying to
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  finish the end of the half. He wasn't even saying maybe we can get
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  a feel goal. I mean, he's using every time out he's got defensively
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  to preserve minutes because he's saying, you know what our offense is gon gonna
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  do. Guess what we're gonna do to you. We're gonna go back down
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  and score. I don't know if you know you get touchdown of there,
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  but that confidence internally exists, and I thought that show. It showed up
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  at other points during the season, but that was a real indication. Is
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  that clock just kept winding. He's like, now give me the ball back.
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  We're going down. You give it to my guys. They're going down.
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  And that's a hell of a change from where this offensive system was four
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  years ago, when you had no offensive linemen and you had to get Zach
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  and there as a true freshman. Think of the remarkable turnaround of that.
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  You want to talk about something that's turned around that offensive unit, putting those
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  pieces in place. Yeah, well number one in the country and running the
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  ball, yeah, power five, power five third overall. Yeah. Yeah,
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  so that works. That works. Got to work on the kickoff covers
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  a little bit that wasn't ideal. We can go to the extreme on that.
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  That was John Antoniic. Did you see well, you probably had the
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  stat right, I saw it. Yeah, hurry up. Yost was the
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  last one that did it. Oh, I thought the n thirty to nothing
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  right, one hundred and thirty ninhing Yeah, that was nineteen oh four.
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  That was Fielding Yost. Right, it was Michigan. I don't know if
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  but it was right. Yeah, it's Michigan, West Virginia guy Fielding Yost,
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  West Virginia native lines up beat US one thirty to nothing two kickoff returns.
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  I'm sure you can. That doesn't happen, by the way, No,
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  I'm aware of that. I'm I'm quite aware, ever, and so
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  I want to know has here's my step So you people some people out there,
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  you know, they try to they try to emulate spreads on stats.
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  Here, dig into this one for me. What's the winning percentage of a
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  team that allows two kick returns for touchdowns in the same game? I'd love
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  to know what that is. I bet you it is infinitesimal. That's one
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  thing. Two. West Virginia let up allowed three kick returns for touchdowns this
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  year. That shouldn't happen in five years. That shouldn't happen in five years.
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  And it cost you the Houston game. And it was about a whisker
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  from costing you another game. And you had them, you had Baylor,
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  they I think they would have cashed in absolutely, And then they're on the
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  sideline, they're like high five and you, hey, let's go, let's
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  go. Why not. It was the perfect anatomy of an upset for them.
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  Right if you and it's cliche, but it, but it's right.
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  You take those teams that are that are cooked and bury them early. Listen,
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  I've been on a lot of bad teams in my life. Excuse me,
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  I've been on bad teams in my life life, like bad bad,
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  like bad bad, trying to play baseball in the snow, and like you're
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  bad, bad and you just want the heck out of there. Been there.
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  If you're in the game, like Baylor became in the game, you
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  suddenly go, eh, well I'm out here, right, I'm out here
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  playing. I'm a competitor. I want to I want to win this game
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  with the bad teams. When they lay down is when you get beat early,
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  right when you're up early, then you just go, you know what,
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  this sucks. I'm out, I don't want to play. And it
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  feels and it feels that it feels familiar. Yes, and it feels familiar
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  like here we go, Okay, we can't. We know we can't win,
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  gonna lose again. So you were headed that way offensively because you were
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  just running right through them, and it was it was those those kickoffs just
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  kept you right in the in the margin. You know, we talked about
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  this solier too, but the margin is so close. I don't care who
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  you're playing. The margin is close. And if that Baylor defender had caught
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  that ball, he was shocked, shocked, I tell you that, in
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  his hands. Guess what we're sitting here today like and then we got we've
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  got black armbands on in morning. You know, they don't always say about
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  wins, never apologize, always accept them. And there's no such thing as
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  a bad win. Th Ever, you know, we watch hard to wing
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  games over the think about those drives that West Virginia's put together. You're talking
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  about the end of the half, end of the game. Is that we
• 21:15
  watch a ton of football on Saturday. We had all kinds of games on.
• 21:18
  You know how many things go wrong when teams try to do that?
• 21:22
  I mean, all the time you got on the twenty. What's going to
• 21:25
  happen? I mean very rarely, I mean the pros you see it all
• 21:27
  the time. College. Very rarely do you see a team able to go
• 21:33
  down the field with no timeouts and successfully execute that. Something goes wrong,
• 21:37
  Brad. And isn't that one of those crazy stats? And especially in football
• 21:41
  because it literally takes that whole team is ton of you just outline there with
• 21:45
  all the different guys making plays on the ice drive. But people always want
• 21:48
  to assign those fourth quarter comeback drives to quarterbacks and assume that's your worth as
• 21:53
  quarterback if you've done that. I mean, how about how about Garret Green
• 21:56
  save for a hail Mary. He just tacked two of those on last minute
• 22:02
  drives down the field to get you a win. Yep, We'll add two
• 22:04
  without the hell Mary. Yep, absolutely right, So you're go into next
• 22:10
  year, he got it. Okay to just give me guys that got it.
• 22:14
  Yeah, So now, as you said, and we'll cover this more
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  one other thing Tony. I mean Michael Hayes, who'd struggled a little bit
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  in the last couple of games compared to what he had done, knocks down
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  two field goals. Their field goal kicker misses two out of three, especially
• 24:26
  with that last one by him. Oh thanks, see now again, So
• 24:30
  those thank you. And I told Hoppy again when I was on this coffee
• 24:33
  program there. So today we're sitting here talking about Garrett Green, We're talking
• 24:40
  about Hudson Clement, We're talking about Zach Fraser, all the good things.
• 24:44
  So at Baylor, you think they're talking about that missed interception. So do
• 24:48
  you think they're talking about that miss field goal? Yep, right, because
• 24:52
  I still remember the player on West Virginia who missed a new interception in the
• 25:00
  nineteen eighty nine West Virginia Pitt game that would have sealed the deal for user.
• 25:03
  Remember it like it was yesterday. I'm not going to say his name,
• 25:07
  but yeah, you just remember those things. You just remember. They
• 25:11
  haunt you, just like that hal Mary's going to haunt us. Speaking of
• 25:17
  which, what's that Dana is looking for a job? I know was a
• 25:23
  bit Someone told me they're in Texas this weekend. So they that he was
• 25:26
  fine, he was going to get another year. Then happen, Well he's
• 25:33
  you know what it does again, It just shows you the world of the
• 25:40
  dollars. So that contract, he gets fifteen million. Yes, he gets
• 25:44
  to go, so he gets fised, just sign. I know, he
• 25:48
  gets fifteen million, which is great for him. Man, he negotiated that
• 25:51
  deal. It's great for him. But this is why colleges are having problems.
• 25:56
  And this is why the current system that we're in is going to change.
• 25:59
  Because you can't not pay Jimbo all those tens of millions of dollars.
• 26:03
  You can't pay guys like Dana fifteen million dollars and then go like, well,
• 26:07
  our athletic departments struggling, we can't work that were worth struggling. We
• 26:11
  can't pay the kids because of that. That's why they're going to get attacked
• 26:15
  for these deals and should and yeah, and so we need to spend time
• 26:19
  maybe next episode on the Ross Dellinger story from last week of what the new
• 26:25
  NC double A? Did you read it? I sent that out. Okay,
• 26:27
  I need to what the new NC double A will look like? And
• 26:33
  the new rules for these you know, the power boys are going to move
• 26:37
  into their own world. There's gonna be some massive, massive changes. We'll
• 26:41
  get revenue sharing with student athletes. But this world that we're in right now,
• 26:45
  of this trying to it's it's bizarre. It's some it is, But
• 26:49
  at some point too, if you even if you're going to break off,
• 26:52
  your problems are still going to exist. If you don't fix some things,
• 26:56
  it's just going to shift who's affected by those things. Here's my example,
• 27:00
  Indiana, who, all due respect to the Hoosiers, they're just stealing money.
• 27:04
  Their football program is stealing money from the Big ten. I've said this
• 27:07
  many times. Why they get one hundred million for the results they're returning is
• 27:11
  absolutely outrageous. They just paid their coach. He was owed twenty million to
• 27:17
  go away and they were fine with that, negotiated it down to fifteen at
• 27:19
  Indiana to go away, and they've got enough money coming in from the TV
• 27:23
  contract they can do that. There's some of these schools that if you there
• 27:26
  should be relegation if we're going to do this and be kingmakers to certain programs.
• 27:32
  Vanderbilt walst again this weekend. We had to hear their score all day.
• 27:34
  Just getting Nasley wiped off the face here by four touchdowns. Again,
• 27:37
  had to hear them all day on the ticker. Some of these schools,
• 27:40
  man, what are you doing? What are you doing to earn one hundred
• 27:42
  million? So unless there's some balance that's going to come into play with that
• 27:47
  stuff, you're just going to take some of the Group of five or the
• 27:51
  max schools now that are at the bottom trying to fight their way up in
• 27:53
  terms of overall budget revenue. You're just going to eliminate those and a new
• 27:57
  bottom is going to move in and it's still to be hard to compete at
• 28:00
  that level. So just because you change the governing body doesn't fix some of
• 28:04
  the inherent problems that exist in there. Just fy yeah, Well, there'll
• 28:08
  never be any it'll never be a fair equal plane among the schools because it
• 28:15
  never has and if you try to set it up to be a fair and
• 28:18
  equal plane among all the schools, that won't last because by human nature,
• 28:22
  people will cheat. That's cheating. Cheats. Everyone cheats in everything, the
• 28:26
  cheating business, they cheat and everything. People cheat by nature. So it
• 28:30
  doesn't matter. You'll never have a fair even field. That will never happen.
• 28:33
  Well, no, you won't and it's not only just because you'll go
• 28:37
  outside the rules, but the conference is making the most money now are never
• 28:41
  going to kick any of that in to bring everybody up to their level.
• 28:45
  They want to stay above you. But if you're going to make it an
• 28:47
  NFL model, and the TV executives continue to want this to be NFL light,
• 28:52
  that's what the NFL has, does it not. You can't get above
• 28:56
  one or other, and it does balance it out. So if you're going
• 28:59
  to try and make an NFL model but don't balance some of the revenues out
• 29:00
  in some way, then you're just then look out. If you're one of
• 29:03
  the schools, it's going to be sitting at the bottom of that new structure.
• 29:07
  You don't think everything is suddenly better just because it's not called the NCAA
• 29:11
  anymore, that it's another group. Don't get don't get caught with that.
• 29:15
  Hit it. So I check your numbers. I'll just go right to the
• 29:18
  numbers. Jump into the analytics worship of the show. Time for spreads on
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  stats missus Brad's analytical review of w w w VU and Baylor Bears. You
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  you know, we had had lunch with him recently and they made it a
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  point to say, hey, guess what, like we're not only based in
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  West Virginia, but like we're actually West Virginia. Like we're here. They
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  got all these a lot of these CPA firms they get bought up, yeah,
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  by other firms, like from outside of the state, and you kind
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  of lose that that whole West Virginia thing. You know, they just could
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  become a just a piece. So yeah, they have offices here, there
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  and everywhere, but like West Virginia gets West Virginia Conley CPA Group. Well,
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  I was right on the queue. So what'd you have first? Before
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  we began brought to you by Conley CPA Group. But this segment dedicated to
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  my guy, Greg Rawlins from Morgantown. Excuse me, met Greg yesterday at
• 30:47
  the basketball game. Who is he? A gentleman here in town? Listens
• 30:48
  to the show? Stop? No, that's not not him, not yet.
• 30:52
  Yeah, that's another one. So I met Greg. He stopped me.
• 30:56
  He said, hey, he said, can I tell you something?
• 31:00
  I said, sure, Sure. He's been listening to the show for a
• 31:02
  long time. He said, when you started in with all those stats,
• 31:04
  it it kind of uh uh. And I could tell like he didn't want
• 31:08
  to. I said, kind of hurt your head, because yeah, it
• 31:11
  was a lot. I know it's I know it hurts your head. Sometimes
• 31:15
  there's a lot of numbers. It gets confusing. I totally understand that,
• 31:18
  but he said he just he stayed with it and kept listening. And he
• 31:21
  found himself at a local establishment not too long ago, Hoppy, and they
• 31:25
  were discussing sports, and he was listening to two of his buddies talking and
• 31:29
  he thought, you know what that they're not You're not right. So I
• 31:32
  started throwing out some of the stats we've talked about, and they were surprised
• 31:34
  that he knew that much, so he said he's learned a little bit from
• 31:37
  the segment. So thank you to matters. Tats matter, they do matter.
• 31:41
  They'll give you some good insight into things, can they not? All
• 31:45
  right? You're ready? Sure? Excuse me on put my glasses on here.
• 31:48
  So let's as we often do in the review episode, let's look back
• 31:52
  at a couple of things we discussed and see if they came to fruition hoppy,
• 31:56
  what's the key to the defense? The defense struggled? They did times,
• 32:00
  Yes, right, they made Sawyer Robertson look like an All American issay
• 32:04
  guy had struggled all year. Give him a lot of credit. He played
• 32:06
  extremely well running and throwing. But what's the key to the defense all year?
• 32:09
  When the defense does what gets pressure on the quarterback? Yes, when
• 32:13
  other teams the opponent is in passing downs thirty percent of the time or more,
• 32:17
  it ends in a win for West Virginia. They finished the regular season
• 32:22
  going seven to oh. In those situations, Baylor was in a passing down
• 32:25
  thirty nine percent of the time At numbers thirty Western he moves to seven and
• 32:30
  oh. So seven of its eight wins came like that. UCF was the
• 32:32
  only one that didn't. The forementioned Sawyer Robertson sure quarterback. How about his
• 32:38
  passing grade? Oh, it was he two hundred plus ninety one point nine.
• 32:43
  He was two hundred at one point. It was crazy a game,
• 32:45
  Yeah, that was his quarterback rating. Passing grade ninety one point nine.
• 32:49
  Had two big time throws, zero turnover worthy plays. We told you on
• 32:52
  Thursday's episode. Watch him throwing deep and left. Remember that deep and left
• 32:58
  twenty yards or more to the left of the field. That's where he likes
• 33:00
  to go. First. Big one was the tight end to the left,
• 33:04
  two for two in that spot one touchdown. Had a quarterback rating of one
• 33:07
  hundred and fifty eight point three when he went that direction. That rating was
• 33:10
  by far, any by far better than any other part of the field that
• 33:14
  he threw to. So it was Sawyer Robertson in passing grade. Cole Taylor
• 33:17
  we talked about him on Thursday, said Baylor had given up the most passing
• 33:21
  yards to a tight end in the Big twelve. Heading into the game.
• 33:23
  He led the team. Taylor did with six targets, tied with the most
• 33:27
  receptions with four, put up sixty four yards receiving. Would have thought there
• 33:30
  might be a few more that come with that, but he was the most
• 33:32
  targeted guy on the team. He was also a factor. We didn't mention
• 33:36
  Traylon Ray when you were talking about good young guys that were coming back that
• 33:37
  made plays. He had that touchdown catch in that game. But if you
• 33:40
  go back and watch, Taylor was underneath, brought a second defender in to
• 33:45
  look like they looked like it was going to right through it, right over
• 33:49
  the top, and he'll touch the back end for trailing Ray to run right
• 33:52
  under that ball. So good work by Cole Taylor in that game. West
• 33:57
  Virginia had a big day running left around the left end and that was led
• 34:00
  by Jaheim White's fifty three yard run around that side nine carries one hundred and
• 34:04
  nineteen yards when going around the left end. One third of its first down
• 34:08
  rushing first downs came on that side, and three of the seven ten yard
• 34:14
  runs or more came around the left edge. You know how bad he got
• 34:16
  screwed on the Wyatt mile. On the Wyatt Mile, I'm holding penalty why
• 34:22
  it was horrible? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, horrible. Now era
• 34:25
  a couple of misses. Wait the place should have stood. I asked Wyatt
• 34:29
  about that. I was walking walking down the seats there in the airplane.
• 34:31
  I said, you got screwed on that holding call. He goes terrible.
• 34:36
  I said, yeah, I know, it was horrible. Garrett Green was
• 34:37
  sitting next to him. He goes, yeah, man, it was terrible.
• 34:40
  How about the play where White goes left and there's two defenders there and
• 34:45
  he jukes them and they are frozen, frozen, and he goes down the
• 34:50
  sideline for like about thirty five yards. Yeah he got it? Yeah he
• 34:52
  does? Does is it? That's it? Speaking of Garrett Green, we
• 34:55
  talked on Thursday about his rushing EPA expect points Added measures the success of plays
• 35:01
  and he was what was he ten times better than the next best quarterback in
• 35:06
  the league. So Garrett goes for one oh three on the ground, ran
• 35:10
  for seven of West Virginia's twelve rushing first downs. He just continues to make
• 35:15
  plays when he was passing it and kept clean. He had six big time
• 35:20
  throws in the game. That's an enormous number for one game. He also
• 35:23
  had a ninety one grade in that game when he was kept clean, So
• 35:27
  he was fantastic. Couple season stats on Green. And we'll do more of
• 35:30
  this in the coming episodes, but I want to get these in today.
• 35:32
  He finishes the regular season, does Garrett Green with the eighteenth best deep passing
• 35:38
  grade in the country? Really, eighteenth best nationally. Now, if you've
• 35:43
  watched him coming into the season, which we had, we'd seen him throw
• 35:46
  it deep. He's got a camp. But to translate that into results with
• 35:51
  his throws and the ability for receivers to get by defenders, I think that's
• 35:55
  just unbelievable that he finishes eighteenth in that category. Actually, when coming into
• 36:00
  the season, one of the questions was accuracy, right, yes, but
• 36:05
  not on the deep ball. You got that. Garrett finishes the regular season
• 36:08
  twelfth in the country in quarterback rushing yards. That's pretty good. Pretty good.
• 36:14
  You'll take that, won't you. Yeah, he finishes fourth in the
• 36:17
  country in rushing EPA, but fifth in rushing EPA per attempt, fifth in
• 36:23
  the country. So you talk about guys that are valuable and had a high
• 36:27
  end success. So twelfth in total yards, okay, fine, Now,
• 36:30
  niche it down to guys that added points expected points each time you ran the
• 36:35
  ball. Dude was fifth in the country. Put that down, that's the
• 36:38
  best. That's fifth in the country, obviously the best in the Big twelve.
• 36:42
  The next best guy in the Big twelve Avery Johnson from Kansas State,
• 36:45
  who split time with Will Howard, and he was eighteenth. That's how good
• 36:49
  of a year Garrett had running the ball. Couple comparison points that same thing.
• 36:53
  As your disclaimer, don't send me all kinds of tweets. I'm not
• 36:57
  saying he's in Pat White's category. But how about these with one game to
• 37:00
  go on the season, you ready, Tony, pay attention here. This
• 37:05
  is a good one. With one game to go, Garrett has two eight
• 37:08
  hundred and eighty six yards of total offense and twenty eight touchdowns accounted for.
• 37:13
  Okay, with one game to go. Pat in two thousand and seven,
• 37:16
  which was a monster year, three fifty nine yards and twenty eight total touchdowns,
• 37:22
  heay do it again, twenty eight eighty six and twenty eight touchdowns.
• 37:28
  Pat was thirty to fifty nine and twenty eight touchdowns and oh seven, Garrett
• 37:31
  still has a game to go. Pat's number is not going to go up.
• 37:36
  Pretty amazing, g it is amazing, pretty amazing. Compare it to
• 37:39
  I said a bunch this summer. This team to me had a twenty sixteen
• 37:44
  type of feel to it. If Garrett could take care of the football,
• 37:46
  which he did tremendously well. Compare him to Skyler Howard, guy that could
• 37:51
  run the football, although I think Green's been more dynamic running it. But
• 37:53
  Skyler was very successful running the ball as well and could throw it deep really
• 37:57
  well. Right, That felt like this team that then was led by a
• 38:00
  veteran, really good offensive line. Some similarities Skyler in twenty sixteen because he
• 38:06
  threw for more yards than Pader Garrett, but he ends up thirty seven ninety
• 38:10
  one three, seven hundred and ninety one yards and thirty six touchdowns. So
• 38:15
  that's the kind of year you're talking about with Garrett. Yeah, I'm just
• 38:17
  looking here. Our boy. Jed Drenning says this offense is on pace to
• 38:22
  become just the fifth Mountaineer offense since nineteen fifty to finish the year averaging over
• 38:29
  two hundred yards rushing and passing. The seventy two team, the ninety three
• 38:37
  team that went undefeated, fifteen team, and the sixteen team. Right now,
• 38:40
  West Virginia is averaging two h four past two thirty four rush. So
• 38:45
  how about the balance running the football? I went back. I tried to
• 38:49
  find some that were comparable to this team that had its top three rushers all
• 38:53
  with more than seven hundred yards, none more than eight hundred right now,
• 38:58
  seven ninety five for seven ninety two Jaheim White, seven oh eight for Garrett
• 39:01
  Green. Think about that balance. Three headed horse See you talk three,
• 39:06
  we would call them the three horsemen. You think anyone's ever done that?
• 39:07
  Hop that's that's three horsemen. No, you don't. You don't need one
• 39:12
  person to run for fifteen hundred yards. I about three people that run for
• 39:15
  twenty one hundred yards. So you talk about an offense is difficult to defend,
• 39:19
  right they whe they're bringing three. So I went back two thousand and
• 39:22
  seven was something similar. You had three players with more than six hundred that
• 39:27
  season. He had of course two over one thousand with Pat and Steve with
• 39:30
  monster years. But that's pretty good. You're going back in history, there's
• 39:34
  it's tough to find where you had a running attack that did that in terms
• 39:37
  of balance. So pretty impressive there for the football team. That's good stuff.
• 39:40
  That's just my football stuff that was really good. Got some more Seaton
• 39:45
  what's some more season numbers into context next week when we recap some of our
• 39:50
  over unders that we did earlier this year. Did you say you went to
• 39:52
  the basketball game? I did. Do you have any numbers from that?
• 39:55
  I got a couple, got a couple. The things we talked about last
• 40:00
  week maybe on sports Line. I don't know if we did it here.
• 40:04
  We thought Jesse Edwards part of our scouting report on sports Line, Jesse Edwards
• 40:07
  should eat. They didn't have a lot of size, right, One guy
• 40:09
  that was six ten didn't play the whole game. Did you see that one
• 40:13
  time in the second half he got a rebound and he didn't jump. It
• 40:15
  was it was it was to the right side of the basket where it was
• 40:19
  like when the kids, like when the gym teacher goes out and they play
• 40:22
  with the like the third graders, and they have the rims down and then
• 40:23
  the gym teacher just reaches his hand up and just takes the ball off.
• 40:27
  There. He had one of those rebounds, didn't jump, just came,
• 40:29
  just just took in sacor energy. Yeah. Well, Bellerman's opponents were shooting
• 40:32
  in the ninety seventh percentile at the rim, so given their size, you
• 40:37
  would expect teams could get to the basket on them. What Jesse end with
• 40:39
  yesterday? Tony? Do you have that right in front of you? I
• 40:42
  don't I have all the time. You asked a rhetorical question. What do
• 40:45
  you have? Seventeen points, fourteen rebounds. Yes, pretty good game,
• 40:49
  so I thought they would probably eat off of that. West Virginia's free throws
• 40:52
  carried the day. Yesterday had the free throw advantage. Bellerman had the advantage
• 40:57
  on threes and took more shots, but you got them on the free throw
• 41:00
  line. Aufrey, you mentioned opry Neve was big, Yes, and give
• 41:06
  you a good number on him. He was ten and six ten and he
• 41:12
  was all over the place. Had some big plays, had that big big
• 41:14
  play at the end, Tony three point play at the ends, really good
• 41:17
  one. Give you some overall stats here. The one thing there was a
• 41:22
  there's a lot of so happy a night. When I pull these stats up.
• 41:25
  There's there's red and green that jumps out to you. Green being good,
• 41:29
  red being not so good. Most of the green came on West Virginia
• 41:34
  with its rebounding stats. Was very good on the defensive glass, defensive rating
• 41:37
  was very good, free throw attempt rate. That continues to be something that
• 41:42
  West Virginia is going to need to do. Find ways when you struggle offensively,
• 41:45
  what's a good way to overcome that. You got to find a way
• 41:46
  to get to the line and get some free throws. I thought that was
• 41:49
  one of the differences in the game last night. More free throws, more
• 41:52
  points in the free throw line, and you had a percentile and the seventy
• 41:55
  first percentile of your free throw attempt rate. I'll give you stat you win
• 42:01
  by four, first half double technical against the bench at Bellerman, West Virginia
• 42:08
  makes four file shots, wins the game by four. Had three point shooting
• 42:16
  for West Virginia. Yeah, West Virginia was three of sixteen. We talked
• 42:22
  the other night about watch the corner three from Bellerman. They took eight of
• 42:27
  them, so that was a spot they liked, but they only went three
• 42:30
  of eight from that corner. We also mentioned that they took the same number
• 42:36
  of threes coming into this game from the left wing, dead on the middle
• 42:39
  and from the right wing. How often do you see that talk about the
• 42:42
  balance and ball movement, the same number of threes. They didn't shoot very
• 42:45
  well from two of those three zones just one of seven from the left wing
• 42:49
  from three to one of six from the right wing from three. They were
• 42:53
  good down the middle four of nine, but they didn't hit from their other
• 42:55
  two zones. That helps you. I'll be interested to watch them the rest
• 43:00
  of the season, see what they do in their league. They're in the
• 43:01
  Atlantic Sun and this is their fourth and last year of transition from Division two
• 43:06
  to Division one. They're not eligible to the for the NCAA Tournament, even
• 43:09
  though their second year in the Atlantic Sun they won the tournament and still give
• 43:14
  teams fits is what they do. Yeah, I'd just be really interested to
• 43:16
  see how they go because they just got dudes that just play fun to watch,
• 43:22
  really fun to watch, but not fun not fun to play, not
• 43:28
  fun to play. Just like when you get over that one, you just
• 43:30
  go like gush, I think we'll go over now. Next up for the
• 43:35
  World Champion Mountaineers, things get real. You're gonna play two power teams,
• 43:42
  you know, high level D one, Saint John's and pitt back to back
• 43:45
  Friday night, Rick Patino coming into the coliseum, and then next Wednesday,
• 43:51
  a much much improved pit team and you're still without kerk Carrisa for another three
• 43:58
  games. West Virginia has got to figure out a way. You got to
• 44:02
  make shots Man three sixteen from three. Yeah, that's gonna be tough.
• 44:07
  And we'll do more of a deep dive on Saint John's coming up on Thursday's
• 44:13
  episode. But real quick that their pace that they're not super fast, kind
• 44:16
  of mid country, middle of the country, but they get a lot of
• 44:20
  points off their fast break, so they're going to pick their spots to run
• 44:22
  on you. They have a really talented big in the middle that's going to
• 44:24
  be a challenge and give Jesse Edwards a heck of a game there. So
• 44:28
  you got some work to do coming up on Friday. Three guys before the
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  Tony I thought, and Brad I thought it was interesting that on the Raquon
• 45:07
  Battle story that typically at the college level, when there's a ruling by the
• 45:14
  NCAA, then the school or whatever expresses their disappointment, and that's that's kind
• 45:19
  of it, right, But for Raquon Battle, with the help of his
• 45:22
  attorney, Rocky g you know, want to come out with a very detailed
• 45:27
  personal statement that went a page and a half about his personal situation, about
• 45:34
  his struggles with his mental health, about how much that it helps him to
• 45:37
  be part of an organization, and that was that's almost unheard of. I
• 45:44
  think that was a remarkable statement by him. And look, you got to
• 45:46
  be first of all, you have to be that's a brave thing to do
• 45:52
  to talk about your talk about that openly with your personal struggles, okay,
• 45:57
  and then to make that argument as to why you should be allowed. I
• 46:00
  just thought it was a remarkable statement on his part. Yeah, and they're
• 46:02
  going to continue to push on that side. Universities out of it, as
• 46:05
  you just mentioned, but they're going to continue to push that and see if
• 46:07
  they can get a case relooked at and or maybe you have to pursue it
• 46:12
  in other ways down the line as well. I thought one of the things
• 46:14
  guys that came out of that, and we've talked a lot about this situation
• 46:16
  and the timing in which the NCAA took back that just what seemed to be
• 46:21
  open enrollment for lack of a better term, and started to put some restrictions
• 46:24
  on there. The other thing, and I don't know the answer to this.
• 46:28
  I'd like to hear this from somebody with the NCAA that could could speak
• 46:31
  to this. I'm surprised at this point they don't allow in person oral arguments
• 46:38
  for lack of a better term for this is it just seems to me some
• 46:42
  of these situations are really serious, Ray Kwan's being one, and to try
• 46:45
  and take that and read it off a piece of paper is a whole lot
• 46:51
  different than if that young man sitting in front of you a two person committee,
• 46:54
  three person committee, ten whatever the committee to make either let him make
• 46:59
  his case, let a Josh Eilert. And again I'm recency bias here and
• 47:02
  speaking directly about this case, but it's so unique, given battles background,
• 47:07
  given what Josh Eilert knows of that background for he himself living on a reservation.
• 47:13
  To not allow those things to be done in person and see the kid
• 47:19
  and listen to the kid, and listen to a head coach that has personal
• 47:22
  experience, I think that's a massive disservice. That's a massive disservice. Is
• 47:27
  it not? What am I missing there? You're not missing anything. There's
• 47:30
  got to be a vehicle, even if it can't be on the original submission.
• 47:35
  If you're into an appeal or at this point a third where you feel
• 47:38
  you've got a really strong case, and if if mental health is one of
• 47:42
  the things that can be that is the check mark that gets you eligible.
• 47:45
  That's hard to look at this and think that doesn't apply here, But to
• 47:49
  not, at some point in this process take that on personally and individually and
• 47:53
  in the same room, letting okay, tell us your story here. Get
• 47:58
  how do you not allow that? So technically you can just do it by
• 48:00
  zoom, because I guess these people that hear these things are all different places.
• 48:05
  Just do a zoom call you get, you get ten minutes, Go
• 48:07
  ahead, Why should you be eligible? Go let him have it. It'll
• 48:13
  be fair. It'd be more fair Actually I would say more than look,
• 48:16
  let him make his pitch with his coach and then let people ask questions.
• 48:21
  Let those whoever make decisions ask questions, what about this? What about this?
• 48:24
  And see if there, if there isn't some sort of compelling reason.
• 48:28
  Now, again, like you said, we have regional bias because it's a
• 48:31
  WVU thing. But with it, I come back to the macro with everybody
• 48:37
  playing everywhere, all the time and getting paid. I mean this, this,
• 48:42
  this stands out stands out for not being able to play it out.
• 48:45
  As we've said many times, the selective enforcement of certain things has got to
• 48:50
  be maddening to people all over the country, and certainly for this guy that's
• 48:53
  that's being kept from playing. And there's others that are just all over the
• 48:57
  place that have moved and done whatever and still played, and coaches that have
• 49:00
  done whatever and broken every rule and still allowed to coach and still allowed to
• 49:02
  make millions. It's just the selective enforcement would make me nuts. That shows
• 49:13
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  Rusty might have those over at the location in Morgantown. But there's the coffee
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  out. YEA, all ready for some text sure? John and Ohio coach
• 51:24
  Brown said after the Houston game that he would bring more pressure on a hail
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  Mary. He brought Marcus Floyd off the edge paid off tough second half of
• 51:31
  these Mountaineers or fighters. Give Garett the credit he deserves. I may be
• 51:35
  biased, but I enjoy watching him more than any other QB and college football
• 51:38
  can't wait for the bull game. Texter, this is at ten to twelve
• 51:43
  pm on Saturday night, ten twelve pm, fifty five years old. I've
• 51:49
  never seen anything like this disheartening. The only lingering question with this team is
• 51:52
  which SEC or Big ten team will Jeem White play for next season. Seventeen
• 51:58
  minutes later, ten twenty nine, nine pm, he writes in this is
• 52:00
  Lewis and Louisbourg. Ignore me. I'm a dumbass. So it gave you
• 52:06
  an in game text when it looked like a loss and had the and had
• 52:08
  the had the wherewithal to come back and say my bag. Yeah, he
• 52:12
  had the guts to well done on his part. So uh self very self
• 52:17
  aware, self actualized. There were self actualized you. There were several in
• 52:22
  game texts that I just spared you. I didn't make they didn't make the
• 52:28
  list. I just okay, yeah see you. Uh three guys. Going
• 52:31
  forward, WVU football needs to have an award that involves grittin fortitude named after
• 52:36
  Zach Fraser pushes Hudson Clement significant injury. He is West Virginian, so proud
• 52:43
  of him what he stands for, Tony. What I would suggest is that
• 52:45
  you use Zach Fraser used Fraser as a verb. He frasered he Fraser.
• 52:52
  Yeah, so if somebody it's not just a great play, but a great
• 52:53
  play with something else attached to it, he said, And you can do
• 52:58
  that in your book. As to say he frayed him, he says,
• 53:00
  we don't be Baylor or without our West Virginia guys. Preston Fox makes a
• 53:06
  spectacular catch, hits the ground hard, hangs on Hudson Clement clutch catches and
• 53:08
  fights for first downs. Appreciate you, guys, dB and Lexington, North
• 53:13
  Carolina. Next Texter, an ugly win is still by definition to win.
• 53:16
  Anyone unhappy about that has to be a closet pit fan. Signed by Bobby
• 53:21
  oh from Defiance, Ohio by way of Weirton Texter. Postgame text from formerly
• 53:27
  known as Spread's Landscaper in the Portal now known as Morgan from Morgantown's Husband.
• 53:31
  It's funny how many fans crawl out of the woodwork when things look bad To
• 53:35
  voice displeasure. I'm proud to be ride or die for this program. I'm
• 53:39
  happy for our players. I'll always believe in this program because that locker room
• 53:43
  is filled with determined men that believe in each other. Fourteenth, I think
• 53:47
  I can get some money from the trust to pay him and get him back
• 53:50
  as a landscaper. Your trust, you have a trust, you get him
• 53:53
  back. No, I think he's done any money. Not enjoy having a
• 53:58
  moment all this summer joy that. Oh it's just not my thing. Soft,
• 54:01
  I get it. Texter Bow from Summersdale, guys get my lawnlower going.
• 54:05
  So I was able to do that. Jason boy. They did a
• 54:09
  lot of They had to do a lot of work. You know your grass,
• 54:13
  Tony, I do do you? He didn't used to. My wife
• 54:16
  wanted to do you trim? Do you do everything? I do? The
• 54:20
  edger and I trim do both. I got two equipments. Dunlap actually gave
• 54:22
  me my edger. Oh really yeah, Dunlap set here the guy I ain't
• 54:27
  using nest take it. I said, all right, fine, I'll take
• 54:29
  it. So that doesn't edge his yard. No, he does a really
• 54:31
  nice job on his yard. He's meticulous got a lot of time on he
• 54:35
  puts it. You know, some guys wear those sun hats, you know
• 54:37
  with the brims around it. His is like the expanded model. It's like
• 54:40
  he's got two yards each side, like he got no sun coming in,
• 54:43
  Like he's a walking car port. He comes in every week and he's always
• 54:47
  I mean, he's a great outdoorsman. He'll come in one week and he'll
• 54:51
  have a picture of like all these fish he caught, giant fish. And
• 54:53
  this week he came in he had a whole thing of birds, like a
• 54:57
  massacre. He went, my gosh, why didn' went bird hunt? Where
• 55:00
  to go somewhere in paw Pa? Really? He and McMichael, Oh yeah,
• 55:05
  big guys. Yeah, both from Somersville. Three guys. Just hoping
• 55:07
  you would give a special shout out to og listeners. Z from Delaware.
• 55:13
  Zach and wife Lindsay, who were both college friends of mine and w v
• 55:15
  Olamu met in Morgantown. Just welcome their first little mountaineer into the world.
• 55:20
  Healthy baby boy Collins arrived at eight fifty am Monday morning. Congratulations, So
• 55:25
  congratulations to that. Yeah today today, very nice Collins. Welcome into the
• 55:30
  world of the Mountains Standings, Texter. Hey, I'm the dude that messaged
• 55:35
  about letting my wife give birth at the stadium last week. Well, we
• 55:37
  didn't go to the game, but my wife did give birth to a healthy
• 55:40
  baby boy Sunday. Mom and baby doing great. Here is my He is
• 55:45
  my first and half to say, from the moment I saw him, my
• 55:47
  perspective on life has completely changed. Anyway, Bow's first game as a West
• 55:52
  Virginia fan was this Baylor game. Welcome to the WVU fandom. My son
• 55:57
  can't wait to be stressed on a couch with you at the games for many
• 55:59
  years to come, both, says Hi. He chose the wiser option of
• 56:01
  sleeping through this game. There he is awesome. Got that binkie ready to
• 56:07
  go? Yeah, congratulations to you guys. Grant in Danville, Pennsylvania,
• 56:13
  Hello, On Saturday, I took my girls to get our family Christmas tree
• 56:15
  at a choose and cut tree farm in how do you say that, Hoppy?
• 56:20
  I don't know. I don't know that Ellisburg, Pennsylvania called Ponduce Farms,
• 56:23
  town of about twenty two hundred people Central PA. One of the workers
• 56:27
  had a golden blue West Virginia to Boggin. Of course he did. His
• 56:30
  uncle played football at West Virginia in the eighties. Can't wait to hear my
• 56:32
  always West Virginia Connection sweatshirt from the Christmas catalog hoping for the Pop Tarts Bowl.
• 56:37
  Whatever that was, Danville. I'm not sure I needed a name on
• 56:43
  that. Texter Harvey, Anthony and Bradley big Z from Morgantown Here for real,
• 56:49
  No AI this time. Hello, some end of regular season thoughts number
• 56:52
  one. The wind wasn't pretty, but these men had the will to win.
• 56:55
  They didn't pucker and what a difference from twenty nineteen too. Come on,
• 57:00
  wealthy Mountaineer alum, donate to the trust so we can keep our players.
• 57:02
  Kauf Cough, Jehem, Treylan, Sean Martin, Milam Green three.
• 57:07
  Garrett Green had twenty eight total touchdowns and only three interceptions. Biggest worry coming
• 57:14
  into the season was him taking care of the ball, and he delivered so
• 57:15
  proud of his maturity. The wild Stallion has become a Clydesdale. That's a
• 57:20
  pretty good line. Yeah he did. It was an incredible year. Biggest
• 57:22
  surprise player this year Hudson, Clement and Ben caught Our great job, Young
• 57:27
  men. Texter Nick from Madison. I've been waiting on this story since the
• 57:31
  Pit Game to see how we finish. This one's for you, spreads.
• 57:37
  So to begin our day, we make our way to Point Pleasant for the
• 57:38
  Mothman Festival to run the five k more walking than running, so this is
• 57:43
  the pit Game. We spend a few hours enjoying the festivities. After we
• 57:46
  enjoyed the race, never realizing this is such a big festival, but I'm
• 57:50
  there to support my wife and her adventures. We make our way to Morgantown.
• 57:52
  Best game I've ever seen in person. So what I'm really getting at
• 57:57
  is I do believe that the Mothman is not a negative. As I was
• 58:00
  to bring some amazing energy with me for good luck and pass along to the
• 58:02
  team as they finished out a great run this year. Here's the more s
• 58:06
  success in whatever bowl we end up in. Let's go get the ninth win
• 58:08
  pes hashtag number fourteen. Right. Well, he got good, he got
• 58:12
  good. Mojo off that because he honored the Mothman. He didn't talk the
• 58:15
  moth Man like Tony does. He was honoring the moth Man, honored,
• 58:19
  not mock honored. Don't mock pay respects. They respect Texter born and raised
• 58:24
  in Ravens would shout out to Mick Price and or running a Red Devil's back
• 58:28
  home. Now living in Fort Worth, a conversation in the stands went from
• 58:30
  releasing someone from unemployment to thanks for having us and on the final drive down
• 58:36
  the season, funny how that works, let's go mountaineers. There it is,
• 58:38
  here's McLain at night. They really did. Thanks for having us.
• 58:40
  Hen Is that a nice stadium? Gorgeous? Is it? They got money,
• 58:45
  right, they got money, and they had great foresight and building that
• 58:49
  thing flat land too, flat land? Know what they did. They put
• 58:51
  their elevators, they put their you know how they always put the elevator in
• 58:53
  the middle of the stadium and you go up to the press box. Yeah,
• 58:55
  they go ends. Saves all the space. It saves all the space
• 59:00
  in the middle. That's smart. They're press box, they're they're radio booth.
• 59:04
  Yeah, biggest radio booth ever. Really, fifteen feet across, forty
• 59:09
  feet deep, No, forty forty feet deep. I measured it. I
• 59:14
  had I had to go. I got to measure this. But do you
• 59:15
  have a the state measure You could put a bed in there. You can
• 59:19
  put five beds in there and you're on the Are you on the fifty?
• 59:22
  You're on the fifty? Yeah, that's nice, that's great. Know what
• 59:27
  he was there? I didn't mind text Crown. How do you handle the
• 59:30
  thanks for having us after a game like this? You certainly can't exclaim it
• 59:34
  loudly on the way out. Do you just kind of mumble it? Or
• 59:36
  you just shuffle out of the stadium? Craig and Craigsville. That's what I
• 59:38
  said. I think I think you roll your eyes and do like. I
• 59:42
  don't know. I'm just saying it's even better you think yeah, because they
• 59:46
  thought they had a win. Those are really good situation when other team thinks
• 59:51
  they have win. I don't care if you played bad. I don't care
• 59:52
  if you yuped up for most of the game. You're walking out with the
• 59:53
  win. So having so yeah, I don't know if you might not a
• 59:57
  logo, but you just leave the saying that might not go logo. So
• 1:00:01
  you say thanks for having us, but Sam's logo no logo. I'll say
• 1:00:07
  this what they do. We'll talk about kicking the stomach? Are those are
• 1:00:09
  hard ones to lose? Oh? You think you're not a shame. That's
• 1:00:15
  hard to win games. Would Baylor have liked to won the game? Yeah,
• 1:00:17
  they didn't. It's still amazing what they do with their students, just
• 1:00:22
  from just from a safety standpoint, they have all those kids in that tunnel.
• 1:00:25
  I mean, it's just then they let them out and they just scream
• 1:00:29
  onto the field. It's it's neat, but it's like someone's gonna fall anyway.
• 1:00:36
  Well, where's that rank on the scale liability? Colorado? Let's a
• 1:00:38
  live buffalo loose Texter. I have to combine those two things would not be
• 1:00:45
  good. No, have to give credit where it's due. How often has
• 1:00:49
  Garret green let a two minute drill to ensure points at the end of the
• 1:00:52
  half of a game? Because at this point, green On a two minute
• 1:00:54
  drill feels more secure than a computer colonoscopy from Conicam, min Alta and Komac's
• 1:00:59
  business systems. Most clutch WVU players since Dave Sean Butler. Hi, praise
• 1:01:05
  that is big boy, Praise Texter three guys getting this in Q early because
• 1:01:10
  I really have something to say to so many on social media whining about our
• 1:01:15
  eight and four record. Many are saying it's not impressive. Because we didn't
• 1:01:17
  beat anyone with a winning record. Some are also saying being happy with eight
• 1:01:22
  and fours, settling for mediocrity. My response, stop it. For one,
• 1:01:25
  you can't control your opponents, you just go win games. And second,
• 1:01:30
  eight and four shows legitimate progress for a team picked last in the league.
• 1:01:34
  We tied for fourth or how mary away from third. So please just
• 1:01:37
  stop because this team deserves to be commended and you're taking away from their efforts.
• 1:01:44
  Texter, guys, I can't just believe the number of Keyboard Warriors who
• 1:01:49
  act like this team has been a failure this year. Poorly coached question mark.
• 1:01:52
  They showed how poorly coached they are. When Zach was injured, boy
• 1:01:57
  was smart and well coached, knowing he needed to hobble off the field to
• 1:02:00
  avoid the runoff, although in hindsight ten second runoff would have been better so
• 1:02:05
  Baylor didn't have as much time. Poor coaching. Wasn't poor coaching that the
• 1:02:08
  line had to settle in with a center who couldn't take a snap and practice
• 1:02:13
  because of no timeouts and didn't get a delay of game. Poor coaching.
• 1:02:15
  When the next play resulted in a go ahead touchdown, all the people out
• 1:02:20
  there who can enjoy win and be thrilled for eight and four when the team
• 1:02:22
  is expected to be dead last in the conference and lose to teams they beat.
• 1:02:25
  Aren't fans. They're sad, pessimistic naysayers who aren't happy when it rains,
• 1:02:30
  but don't like it sunshine either. As for me, I've loved the
• 1:02:35
  Mountaineers for fifty six years. Night cheer loud and proud, and we'll never
• 1:02:37
  forget fourteen. Let's get number nine signed by fran in flatwoods. That may
• 1:02:45
  be, that may be the real name Texter. It's a great morning to
• 1:02:47
  be a mountaineer. Good morning, Tony Bred. Hoppy almost went McDonough there
• 1:02:52
  he did. You give a little creaky too. It's a great morning to
• 1:02:53
  be a mountaineer. Good morning, Tony Bred and Hoppy. First, I'd
• 1:02:57
  like to say thank you for each of your time and effort to make this
• 1:03:00
  another great regular season. I listened to every episode and selfishly hope you guys
• 1:03:02
  stick together a little while longer. YEH, can't kid you everything. I
• 1:03:07
  was able to make it out for the last home game again Cincinnati, and
• 1:03:09
  I have to say it was hands down the least stressful I've ever attended.
• 1:03:13
  It was four of us, my wife, my wife's best friend, my
• 1:03:15
  mother in law, especially because it was my mother in law's first ever football
• 1:03:20
  game. She had a blast this game last night, though a nail bider.
• 1:03:23
  I'm still convinced the only reason we won is because I muted the television
• 1:03:27
  for the last series. You're welcome now onto bowling season. PS. How
• 1:03:31
  is it that I've been a lifelong Mountaineer fan and I'm now just learning that
• 1:03:35
  Hoppy and his brother grew up with my wife's family of the Hoopers here in
• 1:03:39
  Charlestown. Correct. If I were to walk down my driveway and face little
• 1:03:44
  toward the park, I could hit his old house with the rock. Don't
• 1:03:46
  worry Hoppy anyways, it was so cool listening to old stories about what Hoppy
• 1:03:51
  was like as a young man. Total derrelict. No, I just added
• 1:03:53
  that thank you, fellas. Can't say how much I enjoy the show and
• 1:03:58
  hope to meet you one of these days. Signed by seven from Charlestown.
• 1:04:00
  He's a mountaineer in Shepherd Lum. You know the Hoopers. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:04:04
  I went to school with Pam and I were in the same grade.
• 1:04:08
  Pam Hooper Live right down. She played basketball. No literally, throw a
• 1:04:12
  rock from my house to the Hoopers. She could have been a Hooper.
• 1:04:14
  Hooper could have been was not? Texter. Hello. Just when they had
• 1:04:18
  us believe they wouldn't suffer another crazy loss, this team had us convinced that
• 1:04:23
  we were wrong and then proved us wrong again. If nothing else, this
• 1:04:27
  Mountaineer team is unpredictable. From fourteen to number four. Quite the journey.
• 1:04:30
  Don't stop believing. Let's go Greg from Lexington, South Carolina Texter, thanks
• 1:04:35
  for having us Baylor. Great uniform matchup. By the way, both teams
• 1:04:39
  looked great on TV. Signed not an old grad, but not a young
• 1:04:43
  lad Texter, Andy and Parkersburg longtime listener. This podcast has now become a
• 1:04:48
  reoccurring conversation in a group chat with my father and brother with the brother in
• 1:04:53
  Alabama who's also a longtime listener and Texter. This gives us a chance to
• 1:04:57
  discuss one thing. We all love everything sports since we don't get to see
• 1:05:01
  as each other as much as we like. Super happy for coach Brown.
• 1:05:05
  Surely this takes them off seat hot seat, hopefully more portal success and what
• 1:05:10
  feels like more support for Brown at this point, however, I would have
• 1:05:13
  to think there might be some changes coming up on the staff, especially on
• 1:05:16
  the defensive side. What are your thoughts on that. I don't know.
• 1:05:23
  I'm efforting to get to Coach Brown on my coffee clatch and we'll see.
• 1:05:28
  I think with eight wins, I think with eight wins, though, I
• 1:05:34
  don't know, I'm not sure you do much anything. Frankly, I mean
• 1:05:38
  you got eight I mean clearly there was some defensive issues there, but you
• 1:05:41
  know you lost you didn't. You probably had a shortage of talent, You
• 1:05:44
  had injuries on the defensive side, so they're gonna need some work to portal
• 1:05:48
  Wise with the defensive guys, you're gonna lose a bunch of guys that produced
• 1:05:53
  Jared Bartlett right, both corners out, Marcus Floyd out, I believe,
• 1:05:58
  from eligibility. So you're gonna have to That's why I think it's imperative to
• 1:06:00
  keep that offensive group as much together as you can. Then you won't have
• 1:06:04
  you won't need a lot of spots filled offensively. You can really focus defensively
• 1:06:09
  here in the off season. Well, you know, you start talking about
• 1:06:12
  that about the trust though, and again the great disadvantage you have no idea
• 1:06:18
  how much money's in the trust, and you start to say, Jem White,
• 1:06:20
  we gotta pay him, Garrett Green, you gotta pay them. I
• 1:06:24
  mean, well, why do you keep saying you don't know how much money
• 1:06:26
  they having the trust? They know how much money they have in the trust.
• 1:06:28
  Yeah, we don't. What do you need to know for? I'm
• 1:06:31
  curious, I mean, but what do you need to know for? They
• 1:06:33
  know how much? Okay? Okay, Well, because because the trust and
• 1:06:40
  the amount of money available is incredibly significant as to whether you can keep the
• 1:06:45
  team together, that is a legitimate worry. Now that's a concern, right,
• 1:06:49
  whereas a couple of years ago it wasn't all one guy's transferring. Two
• 1:06:53
  guys are transferring. So you have this as a Mountaineer fan or a fan
• 1:06:56
  of any school. You have anxiety because you don't know whether you're gonna be
• 1:07:00
  able to keep these guys or get other guys because you have no idea,
• 1:07:03
  no idea what the financial structure is. And that's a new level of anxiety
• 1:07:09
  for fans that you did previously did not have. I understand what you're saying,
• 1:07:14
  but to me, it's kind of like you'll know if they had enough
• 1:07:16
  or didn't have enough, based on who stays and who doesn't, whether you
• 1:07:21
  know it, whether you know it was X or Y, really is immaterial.
• 1:07:25
  To just keep the kids, well, I don't know. I mean
• 1:07:30
  again, what what if what if Jaheem White goes to Georgia And I'm just
• 1:07:33
  making that up? Okay, okay, and then you go, wow,
• 1:07:38
  So you have to compete with Georgia. You have to compete with them and
• 1:07:42
  financially to keep one of your best players. Yeah, I told you the
• 1:07:45
  story about I told you the story coming out of the don Neil and event
• 1:07:49
  Georgia paid a kid one point one million out of high school as a running
• 1:07:51
  back. Some of the guys you're not gonna be able to keep. You're
• 1:07:55
  gonna lose guys. You're gonna you're gonna pick some guys up, and you're
• 1:07:58
  gonna lose guys, and it's inevitable. You're gonna get You're gonna get bummed
• 1:08:03
  out, and then you're gonna hope you get some guys coming in. That's
• 1:08:06
  the way of the world. Never there's no way you're gonna go through this
• 1:08:10
  process and not be unhappy at some points and then be encouraged that you got
• 1:08:14
  some guys. Well, I understand that. I'm just saying there's a difference
• 1:08:16
  between and I'm not talking about money like Ohio State or Georgia, but there's
• 1:08:20
  a difference between whether you have one point five million or ten million in the
• 1:08:24
  trust? Okay, as to what? As to who you can keep and
• 1:08:28
  how many you can keep, you don't have the anxiety about that. Nope,
• 1:08:33
  all right, maybe I'm just a warrior. No, you are just
• 1:08:39
  is that just you just realize that you're a warrior? Well, thank you,
• 1:08:44
  Brad, you do. Why don't you turn your microphone on? If
• 1:08:46
  you want to be on? Why don't you turn your microphone on? You
• 1:08:48
  always turn me off. And I'm getting ready to say something. I get
• 1:08:51
  what you're saying. I will say this to you, but on to his
• 1:08:56
  side, as long as Neil Brown and staff know that that's certainly more critical
• 1:09:00
  and just go go keep the guys. Now you get a bunch of guys
• 1:09:02
  leaving and you're not keeping anybody, then I think there's some questions to follow
• 1:09:05
  that. Okay, So okay, all right, all right, go keep
• 1:09:12
  the guys. You know you watch you need to keep this year in general
• 1:09:15
  in general terms. Let me say this in general terms and talking with those
• 1:09:19
  guys, now, there's gonna be some players that leave that they don't care
• 1:09:25
  leave because they're not they're not good enough. Okay, they're just gonna go
• 1:09:28
  somewhere and drop down to a different level. No, that was okay.
• 1:09:30
  Yeah, But as far as like, the number I think that they're they're
• 1:09:35
  concerned about is less than ten of like, hey, we can't lose these
• 1:09:42
  guys, and it might be six eight and we can't lose these guys.
• 1:09:46
  That's their worry point. It's not twenty five, if that makes any sense
• 1:09:50
  to you. Yeah, yeah, it does. They know who they want
• 1:09:56
  to keep, they know who they need to keep, and they know who
• 1:10:00
  if they leave totally good, probably more than ever before we had Drew Fabiani
• 1:10:05
  ch here the general manager. Right, that's all he's been doing since he
• 1:10:10
  got here is talent evaluation. Here knows who they want to keep. But
• 1:10:16
  given the success of this particular team and the success of the young guys on
• 1:10:20
  this team, that number would seem to be more on that higher end,
• 1:10:24
  And it's certainly more than it's been at any other time when you've had to
• 1:10:27
  come up with the funds to pay these guys. I think that's a fair
• 1:10:30
  statement. One. Then number two, you're going to all it's not just
• 1:10:33
  about retention, although that's first. Then you better have enough in there.
• 1:10:38
  After you've paid your guys that have retained that are more than you've wanted to
• 1:10:41
  keep in the past, you better be able to go out and get the
• 1:10:43
  few that you need to fill in and sprinkle and stay at the level.
• 1:10:45
  No question. I mean, it's more that your payroll this year is more
• 1:10:50
  important than it has been at any time since Neil Brown's got here on thousand
• 1:10:54
  percent. Agree, I'm not downplaying I said maybe last week on here,
• 1:10:58
  this next week, this week, this dead period, this retention, it's
• 1:11:02
  the most important time of the entire year. But whether I know if they've
• 1:11:06
  got five million, eight million, twenty two million, thirty seven, I
• 1:11:10
  don't care. Just go get it done, well, I understand. I
• 1:11:14
  think my point is that if you would lose more than you would expect to
• 1:11:18
  lose, then you then you say well that, wow, was there not
• 1:11:23
  enough money in the trust then? But I don't know how much was there?
• 1:11:26
  How much short were you? I just think if you to me,
• 1:11:30
  maybe it's just maybe it's just a news guy. To me, those are
• 1:11:31
  natural questions. You're not going to know what's that. You're not going to
• 1:11:35
  know. Okay, it's not a nonprofit. They don't have to show you
• 1:11:42
  the numbers. Someday you'll know. Yeah, when the system changes, you'll
• 1:11:45
  know. Yeah, you'll get your way here soon when this whole system understand
• 1:11:47
  what. I know exactly what you're saying. Absolutely, it's it's a point.
• 1:11:50
  It's a point of public interest because the football teams of public interests exactly.
• 1:11:55
  Yeah, I get it. I know what you're saying. Texter.
• 1:11:57
  I don't live in a dark ruin like Tony. I don't care. Well,
• 1:12:02
  maybe I don't care. Lillians, you know who knows. Just tell
• 1:12:06
  me. I don't want any additional information kept in the dark. That money
• 1:12:14
  in those bags, right, I thing like Brad says, I haven't read.
• 1:12:16
  I think the people who need to know. No, maybe you're not
• 1:12:19
  one of those people. I think I think people that need to spend the
• 1:12:25
  money and know they know I'm not in that I'm not in. You need
• 1:12:28
  to not in the need to know. Texter underrated reces product good overall volume,
• 1:12:36
  easy to consume with no chocolate shrapnel when excruciating from the paper wrapper excellent
• 1:12:42
  peanut butter to chocolate ratio. So just a straight bar. I haven't seen
• 1:12:45
  this. Yeah, he's right sometimes when especially in those minis, those minis,
• 1:12:50
  and they're not my favorite, that there's a lot that's left over in
• 1:12:54
  the wrapper. When you feel he's right about that, it doesn't happen in
• 1:12:57
  any other form. No, he called it the two pack. The regular
• 1:13:00
  sized ones come off very easily. The big ones with the shapes are just
• 1:13:03
  there. You don't have to underpeal anything. Those darn minis can be a
• 1:13:08
  challenge. Well, Adam Z called that, I think perfect description. Chocolate
• 1:13:11
  shrapnel. He's on it, Texter. This is for hoppy Oh, correlation
• 1:13:16
  versus causation. Every single person who confuses correlation and causation ends up dying.
• 1:13:24
  That would be that would be correlation, not causation, Texter. Just to
• 1:13:31
  put this season into perspective for all the people saying we should have a better
• 1:13:34
  record, I went through some numbers to give my best spreads impersonation. So
• 1:13:39
  now people are trying to imitate you. Oh, I love it. This
• 1:13:42
  is going back to the twenty three to four season because that's all the data
• 1:13:45
  I could pull. So since twenty three to oh four, so basically twenty
• 1:13:49
  years right, twenty years, West Virginia averages seven point nine wins per season.
• 1:13:56
  Over the last twenty one years, our average strength of schedule is a
• 1:14:00
  thirty four point five. This season we had eight wins and our strength of
• 1:14:06
  schedule was forty first. So I think there's other strength of schedule that would
• 1:14:13
  tell you they're higher to there. I know there's a bunch out real quick,
• 1:14:15
  let me do this because I've been a little bit surprised at this strength
• 1:14:19
  of scheduled discussion and you haven't beat anybody. Narrative that's come up. I
• 1:14:24
  don't I remember I mountain your football a long long time. I don't remember
• 1:14:28
  this being an internal point of deriding the team that you're a fan of.
• 1:14:31
  The only time I can remember this is back when you're competing for a national
• 1:14:34
  championship in the five six oh seven and the national people would try and jump
• 1:14:39
  in and say, oh, it's big East, you haven't played anybody.
• 1:14:41
  Mountaineer fans would absolutely be ready to fight those people, wouldn't They screaming about
• 1:14:45
  no, that's not true. We're still good to and now it's being used
• 1:14:47
  by a segment of this fan base to challenge the accomplishments of the team.
• 1:14:51
  It's just a really bizarre thing that's developed. But let me put some numbers
• 1:14:55
  to it. I tried to put some numbers to it. Or you did
• 1:14:57
  this as I often do. Excuse me, put your glasses on. All
• 1:15:01
  right, let's go through this. I took out Texas as the team that
• 1:15:05
  finished first in the league, because they couldn't beat anybody that was above them,
• 1:15:09
  right, because they finished in first. The other the remaining teams in
• 1:15:13
  the league, Well, let me do it this way. The top eight
• 1:15:15
  teams in the league top seven without Texas sixty three total conference games. I
• 1:15:23
  found five games where a team beat one ahead of it. Out of those
• 1:15:26
  sixty three, at seven point nine percent of the time a team beat another
• 1:15:30
  team ahead of it in the standings. When taking the top eight teams top
• 1:15:34
  seven, take Texas out the bottom six teams, of which there's one Bowl
• 1:15:38
  eligible team in the Big twelve. Now they have more opportunities for those games,
• 1:15:43
  hop right, because there's more teams above them in the standings. So
• 1:15:45
  I came up with forty eight total games. There six wins over teams ahead
• 1:15:51
  of it in the standings, six out of forty eight, twelve and a
• 1:15:56
  half percent of the games. So again, if I've done my math right
• 1:15:59
  on eleven total games without Texas, and there were eleven wins by teams eleven
• 1:16:05
  games that they beat a team ahead of it in the standings, for a
• 1:16:08
  grand total of nine point nine percent. So in the Big Twelve this season,
• 1:16:11
  basically ten percent of the teams got to win over somebody ranked above it
• 1:16:14
  in the standings. Yeah, that's which is which isn't a lot of year
• 1:16:17
  what I'm saying. West Virginia lost to Oklahoma Oklahoma finished above West Virginia.
• 1:16:21
  West Virginia lost to Oklahoma State, Oklahoma State finished above West PRIs Stown.
• 1:16:25
  Those are you only two opportunities, right, So you only had two chances
• 1:16:28
  based on where the final standings came to beat a team ahead of you in
• 1:16:30
  the standings. You did not do it. You werehead of Oklahoma State in
• 1:16:33
  the fourth quarter, didn't get done. But there were only eleven such instances
• 1:16:38
  in the league this year in conference play, So it just didn't happen a
• 1:16:41
  whole lot. But I've been a little bit surprised how much discussion there is
• 1:16:44
  about strength to schedule, when generally it's only when external sources get on you
• 1:16:48
  about day. I think I'll tell you why. I think that is is
• 1:16:53
  one, because there were teams that had losing records e play. But second
• 1:16:56
  of all is that there is a there is a movement, I'm not sure
• 1:17:00
  of the size of it, but a movement that wanted Neil Brown fired.
• 1:17:02
  Okay, so if you're looking if you're looking at Neil Brown fired, you're
• 1:17:06
  looking for arguments to looking for reasons to bolster your argument correct to fire Neil
• 1:17:12
  Brown, and that that's one that Yeah, but man, this would this
• 1:17:15
  would seem an odd way to do it when the whole thing was win games,
• 1:17:17
  win games, win games. You went out and you won games,
• 1:17:19
  right, so you move the ball down the field. Now you go to
• 1:17:23
  the next stage where okay, now go pick somebody off, Go beat a
• 1:17:26
  ranked team, go have a signature. Right, Okay, but you had
• 1:17:30
  to move the you were picked last, so you don't automatically jump up and
• 1:17:34
  beat all of these teams that supposedly are on your schedule. Was just move
• 1:17:39
  the sticks forward, which she did this season? Yeah, I just I
• 1:17:42
  don't know. It didn't happen very much within league play. It'll be interesting
• 1:17:45
  to see what happens on Wednesday. They're going to release the Big twelve Coach
• 1:17:47
  of the Year. It's voted on by the coaches. So West Virginia had
• 1:17:54
  the biggest difference of where they were picked to finish from where they finished.
• 1:17:58
  Yeah, ten spots up. So my thinking is, I don't think they
• 1:18:02
  give it to Texas because one Texas is leaving and two all the other coaches
• 1:18:08
  go. It's Texas. They get all the players they're supposed to win it.
• 1:18:12
  They want it, So what maybe Oklahoma State, maybe Gundy. I
• 1:18:15
  don't know, but I wouldn't be stunned if Neil Brown is. I don't.
• 1:18:20
  They don't ever say like who's second and who's third. They just say
• 1:18:24
  who wins, right. I think that's right. So maybe we'll see what
• 1:18:27
  happens Wednesday. Did We talked about this on our on our broadcast. We
• 1:18:30
  spent some time on this, and I'm I'm of the belief in these things.
• 1:18:32
  I side more with exceeding your expectations should get you these awards. I
• 1:18:39
  would not be a vote for Steve Sarkis and they had a great year,
• 1:18:42
  but they were predicted to have a great year. So to me, you
• 1:18:45
  just did what you were supposed to do. I have a feeling Gundhy does
• 1:18:48
  win it from the standpoint of where they were in September to playing for a
• 1:18:53
  big twelve championship. But you could probably argue the reason they were why they
• 1:18:57
  were in September because they wouldn't give it Ally Gordon, which was kind.
• 1:19:00
  I think it should be Neil Brown, I really do you're pick to finish
• 1:19:03
  fourteenth? You finished that tie for fourth. I don't. I think that's
• 1:19:06
  your case. It'll be interesting because here I just putting myself into the mindset
• 1:19:11
  of coaches. I just think coaches look at and go like best coaching job.
• 1:19:18
  If they look at it that way, like who did the best coaching
• 1:19:21
  job? So I wouldn't be surprised. I won't be surprised. Yeah,
• 1:19:26
  that would be that would be appropriate. Like Brad's argument oftentimes. I mean,
• 1:19:30
  if if Texas and Oklahoma weren't leaving, you would probably just give it
• 1:19:34
  to Sarkisian. Right. Some people vote that way. Some people vote on
• 1:19:40
  team that won the league that's the best coaching job. I'm voting for that.
• 1:19:42
  I am one that would not. I don't fall in that camp.
• 1:19:45
  I'm an exceed expectations guy. But some would. I think, Neil Brown,
• 1:19:48
  I think you should get it. Really. I think you can certainly
• 1:19:51
  make that argument. I would certainly be in a category of don't you dare
• 1:19:55
  give it to a coaches leaving the league? Yeah, when coaches you want
• 1:19:59
  to and Coach of the year go win at the SEC. Good luck,
• 1:20:01
  hope it goes well for you. I'll tell you what, Brett or Mark.
• 1:20:03
  Did you see the troll they gave home like that Texas game? Whoa
• 1:20:08
  you talk about kicking them right in the old well you know where's I said
• 1:20:13
  that? So for uh, if it was going to be of course,
• 1:20:15
  now it's going to be Oklahoma State in Texas. But if it's going to
• 1:20:17
  be Oklahoma in Texas, I would have said you and Marx should go there,
• 1:20:21
  drop off the trophy two days before the game. Give it to a
• 1:20:25
  maintenance guy there, said listen, whoever wins gives it to him. I'm
• 1:20:28
  not going to be here. Just run run this out there. Hey,
• 1:20:30
  by the way, special shut up. I'm holding in my hands there a
• 1:20:36
  golden pear a few episodes ago. I said how much I like those Harry
• 1:20:41
  and David Pears. Remember that? Yeah? I said, like I could
• 1:20:43
  crush him. Our boy Charlie and Mid mid Lothian. He writes a note
• 1:20:46
  to us Tony Breton Hoppey, thanks for passing along or playing along with the
• 1:20:51
  fuel points saga. Charlie from mid Lothian. He sends us this beautiful box
• 1:20:55
  of Harry and David Pears. I'll tell you something, all that money he's
• 1:20:59
  saved those bad boys are expensive to get these pairs. Thank you very much,
• 1:21:01
  Charlie. Are you saying that? But you told me something I didn't
• 1:21:04
  know because I've gotten those before. So the one that's wrapped in gold is
• 1:21:08
  not different than the other pairs of They just do that. It's kind of
• 1:21:10
  like that's their thing. I thought, the little that's their little chef's kiss
• 1:21:15
  right there, little golden pear. Those are good pairs. Oh yes,
• 1:21:20
  yeah, you're gonna share those, yeah there for all of us. Okay,
• 1:21:25
  Texter guys. Brian from the home of the soon to be two time
• 1:21:29
  defending state champion Yellow Jackets of Williamstown. They a big football game this weekend.
• 1:21:33
  It's Greenboro West are pretty good? You going up there. I'll be
• 1:21:36
  there super six. Yes, Metrono is doing the games. Yes, radio
• 1:21:41
  and TV both sure, huh been doing that? Does something new or no,
• 1:21:45
  been doing it a while? Thanks for asking? Do you see he's
• 1:21:49
  the Bridgeport Princeton game. I was amazed. I talked to Travis Jones.
• 1:21:53
  Oh, he's gonna hang himself. I said, how did that happen?
• 1:21:57
  You guys don't you guys don't throw it? Did you run for all your
• 1:22:00
  scores? He says, no, they were putting eleven in the box that
• 1:22:01
  we were throwing it through it a little scored forty plus in the fourth quarter,
• 1:22:05
  scored on nine. For some reason, I keep focusing on Bridgeport Princeton
• 1:22:10
  won a game, and brad Princeton's a great story because it's a great story
• 1:22:13
  first time, first time. But for Bridgeport they score on nine consecutive possessions.
• 1:22:17
  Unbelievable. Man, that's a good that's hard to do. That was
• 1:22:20
  their That was their Baylor West Virginia game, first game of the Big twelve.
• 1:22:25
  Texter says, uh. Anyway, so home from two time defending state
• 1:22:29
  champs soon to be. Kudos to Chris Beck and the Boys for traveling to
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  Parsons and knocking off undefeated Tucker County. Next up the fighting Owen Schmidts for
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  the title Owens coaching Weboro West. Yeah, I just saw the in the
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  Gun podcast Twitter. The WV now has the number one rushing attack among all
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  Power fives. What a joke. The old line has not been the finalist
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  for the Joe Moore Award. If all the ups and downs, the line
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  has been so consistent for the most part, hats off to helping them gets
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  us to eight and four. Lastly, I'm shocked no one has mentioned this,
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  but how does Brad not have a second sponsor for spreads on stats in
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  an eye doctor's office. Got to get him some nice specs for that segment.
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  FYI, The glass removal line is now six and a half per episode.
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  Yeah, we still open for sponsorships. Sure, I think probably get
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  another one or two in there. All I know is this, if you
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  become a sponsor of three guys, all we do is give you a product,
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  the Golden Touch. Whatever we touch turns to gold. Sell out of
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  that coffee. The popcorn people, by the way, that popcorn that's grown
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  in Shepherd's Town as well, really popcorn, and it's what's that GM?
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  What does it pick up one of those bags? What's it saying on there?
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  I mean it's like healthy? What is it? No? Turn around?
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  The other side says a little sick? Non GM GM what non GMO
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  colonels? Non gmo colonels? Grown in Shepherd's Town, grown in Shepherd's Town,
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  right near hop Hey. It could be Hoppy's dirt from his farm,
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  my brother's form maybe yeah, next form. I mean, we're happy to
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  help these West Virginia businesses. You get some of that mountaineer munch, get
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  yourself a couple of them kerchie veils. Oh your set, pull that level,
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  pull that lever on your lazy boy recliner, pick your feet up.
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  You know what, you're frasiering. You have a big time. You're living
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  large life. Uh spread scopes and the Dean of Beers. I hope you
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  all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. I know this is a critical week for the
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  staff. They try to retain players. I want to issue a challenge tall
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  Mountaineer fans. If you're able to do it, reach out to the Country
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  Roads Trust. Make a thirty dollars monthly pledge. The more that can be
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  collective will go a long way to keeping this core group together next season.
• 1:24:43
  And one last thing to the Big twelve preseason media poll voters, thanks for
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  having us signed by our buddy p One Jennings and Country Rush, Country Roads
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  Trust supporters trusted like to spons trust. I'm not sure there's any program in
• 1:24:56
  the world that's mentioned the Country Roads Trust as much as we had last week
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  speaking sponsor that's at free pub for them, I'll say texture they don't have
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  money to spare them or at least or at least we don't know how much
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  they have. That's making that's making happy very worried. I got to know.
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  I got to know how much you have. I'm raised. I raise
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  a valid concern. Never mind you want to live in like a mushroom over
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  there, don't tell me. I don't want to know. Text or three
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  guys, great show, No disrespect here comes disrespect disrespect. But I sometimes
• 1:25:30
  re listen to your show at two or three in the morning to get back
• 1:25:33
  to sleep easy. And that's easy and enjoyable listening like a lulla ba.
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  I gave us all due respect there the question. None of us lay people
• 1:25:41
  understand the parameters of NIL. I understand that it's separate from the university,
• 1:25:45
  but it does carry a component of we will pay provided you play for WVU.
• 1:25:51
  With this in mind, couldn't there be a buyout clause and then IL
• 1:25:55
  deals. Everyone has the power to break a deal, but not the legal
• 1:25:58
  right. Therefore money damages ensue. Obviously, the player could demand that the
• 1:26:02
  acquiring portal Destinations NIL pay the buyout as we shouldn't want to sue players,
• 1:26:08
  and it flows legally because the acquiring school would have tortuously and interfered with a
• 1:26:13
  contract. But wouldn't give this some stability to rosters and also give the players
• 1:26:17
  the type of negotiating freedom they desire. Also, our NIL deals year to
• 1:26:23
  year? Can they be multi year? Could you effort on this and report
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  back? Great show? Thanks for good humor and great insights, Chuck in
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  Bridgeport. No, we're not allowed to ask. We don't want any information
• 1:26:33
  about it. All good questions there, They're all good questions. I mean
• 1:26:38
  a couple of things I can't answer. Yes, they are year to year.
• 1:26:41
  Could they be multi year? Conceivably they could. Since we're in such
• 1:26:45
  an infancy of this, I do think that there will become stricter restrictions on
• 1:26:51
  these nil deals. You got to remember, this whole nil thing was intended
• 1:26:59
  to be a student athlete being able to use his or her name, image,
• 1:27:03
  or likeness to generate dollars. That lasted about twelve minutes. But the
• 1:27:08
  intent of it has totally gone awry and it's now pay for play. So
• 1:27:15
  there needs to be a maturation and evolution of what this is. But right
• 1:27:19
  now it is just oftentimes bizarre. You know, we've had basketball players here
• 1:27:29
  that have left West Virginia having made hundreds of thousands of dollars, probably that
• 1:27:34
  didn't bounce the ball into the hoop, just pissed away money. And I
• 1:27:40
  think those are some of the things that are coming. I mean, that's
• 1:27:42
  why you need to in that happens. Yeah, that's why you need to
• 1:27:45
  put some form of parameters on this thing so that can't happen. You know,
• 1:27:54
  real quick, final thing before you hit the music. We should a
• 1:27:56
  picture a little bit early, but let's put it back up another You have
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  gentlemen and his son attending his first Mountaineer basketball game at the coliseum yesterday.
• 1:28:04
  Talked to them for just a little bit. This is Jeremy and Riser from
• 1:28:09
  Lynnville, Virginia. Riser attending his first game at the coliseum. We have
• 1:28:14
  a picture there they are who took the picture? I did. You were
• 1:28:15
  at the game? You made their picture? They had their picture made.
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  Yeah, that's the coliseum. That was his first game. Made it.
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  That was his first That was his first game. That quickly, that's awesome.
• 1:28:27
  Did you get it developed that quickly? Took it down? Said I
• 1:28:29
  need a rush on this in the back room. He went over twelve hours
• 1:28:30
  and went over to Photo Matt inside the He went over to the parking lot
• 1:28:33
  over at Hills and pulled up to the Photo Matt and said, hey,
• 1:28:36
  could I get this quick? US reference? You bet Sparky each other picture.
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  So when they gave it back to me in the envelope, I had
• 1:28:43
  a rifle through the pictures real quick. The negatives were in the back.
• 1:28:46
  They're looking while I was trying to go through the picture, looking the negative
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  up there and holding up in the light. That's the one I want,
• 1:28:53
  so Jeremy and Riser hope he enjoyed the game. He saw Mountaineer win in
• 1:28:56
  his first Mountaineer basketball game. Very nice special moments, man, Yeah,
• 1:29:00
  special special moments I remember. I always remember that. Yeah, absolutely,
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  he'll he'll, He'll know Bellerman better than anyone else, So I want to
• 1:29:09
  look at him years from now. Yeah Bellerman. You don't know Bellerman?
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  Yeah, that was my first game, was Belling? Absolutely? Absolutely?
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  All right? We be done. So good to be back on Mondays.
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  By the way, it felt a little weird. Not for me, I
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  like the Sunday Yeah did you You wouldn't liked it if you got home at
• 1:29:27
  four fifteen, great point, solid point. I woke up by that and
• 1:29:30
  you had a game to I woke up about eight fifty. I went like,
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  why am I glad I don't have to go in there and deal with
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  Hoppy. That's what I said. I'm fair, Jez. Three guys before
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  pullover on from Paiter Malar's a picture of health. See. And this is
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  kind of a fun secondary mark, you know. I like it because the
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  for branding, right, make your love of something that people know what it
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  if you know, you know, and if you don't, and if you
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  don't, it's still need yeah quickly. But if you want to be in,
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  Virginia and Saint John's about Wait. Also, I might I might be efforting
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  on something else for Thursday. I might be efforting on something else for Thursday's
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  show. Just and if that efforting falls short, then we'll do some over
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  under recaps from the summer. Sure, we can do that. If the
• 1:31:44
  efforting comes through, it'll push the over unders till later because those will be
• 1:31:48
  kind of those will be a fun discussion. Are you over promising? No,
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  I'm I'm not saying. Actually, for the first time ever, he
• 1:31:54
  didn't over promise. He is working efforting. He's foreshadowing, yes, the
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  potential hinting it works out. Okay, good. No. Normally he would
• 1:32:03
  have said I've got something for you on Thursday, but it's already done,
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  when in fact he does not have it already done. And per usual He's
• 1:32:11
  also not the one that's going to be efforting. But then either here or
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  there, Oh okay. Three Guys producer has been Luke rousing for Hoppy and
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  Brad Three Guys before the Game episode five oh eight. Thanks for having us
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  see it.