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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, August 28 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeff Wars, Did you don't Jack Jack Barris? Did you Jackuars?
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Speaker 1: Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps to John O, says Ashley
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Speaker 1: Jaguarris Drive Time starts right now. Got some good matchups.
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Speaker 1: So it's not always been shoutouts. Are you know, are
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Speaker 1: just you know good boss the one ugly? But this
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Speaker 1: defense and who we are you know? Uh, when we
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Speaker 1: do it right, we can make it really hard on
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Speaker 1: opposing tunes. You know that guy Calais Campbell and he's right.
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Speaker 1: They can make it hard on teams. I can make
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Speaker 1: it hard on myself. That'd be a flag for false
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Speaker 1: start on me this morning. Uh, it's Tuesday. Trying to
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Speaker 1: get into gear here on a short week is good.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars get set to play Thursday night, their preseason finale
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Speaker 1: in Tampa. Bryan Sexton Ashlyn Sullivan with what we hope
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Speaker 1: you'll find an enjoyable show today. Feedback obviously encouraged, well
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Speaker 1: maybe not, thank well ust for that another day. Regardless,
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Speaker 1: we're here this morning for the next forty five minutes
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Speaker 1: or so, and we've got plenty to cover. Let's start
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Speaker 1: with our Twitter pool Ashland and it's it's pretty simple
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Speaker 1: based on yesterday and the Twitter pool is who do
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Speaker 1: you expect to film Marquis Lee shoes? There are some candidates.
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Speaker 1: That's the good news. Last year, you know, you didn't
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Speaker 1: have this, but you've got Westbrook a year older. You've
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Speaker 1: got Rashad Green senior, Jaydon Mickens, or someone else. And
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Speaker 1: that someone else could be Keelan Cole who a year ago.
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Speaker 1: When Allen Robinson goes down, you don't know what you're
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Speaker 1: playing with. Cole came on to lead the team with
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Speaker 1: seven receiving us. Westbrook got active late in the year
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Speaker 1: after injured reserve and made some plays. Had a chance
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Speaker 1: to make an even bigger play. Uh Stefan Gilmore made
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Speaker 1: sure that didn't happen in the a h C Championship game.
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Speaker 1: Uh Rashad Green Senior hasn't even been available to the
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Speaker 1: last two years, so there are some options. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: with the camp t J. Shark has had, he could
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Speaker 1: fill those shoes quickly as well. Yeah, you know, and
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Speaker 1: that's the blessing on that thing for them is that
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Speaker 1: he's really starting the show. Signs. You hate to get
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Speaker 1: too far ahead of yourself because this is camp and
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Speaker 1: this is the preseason. However, challenge the kid and see
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Speaker 1: if he can't rise to the occasion, and you may
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Speaker 1: see him steadily progress and get better and actually make
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Speaker 1: a couple of plays during the course of the season,
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Speaker 1: not consistently. Not a yard receiver, fourteen touchdown kind of
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Speaker 1: season from him, though, Why limit him? Um? But you know,
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Speaker 1: makes some place to fill in the gaps. And the
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Speaker 1: one thing they really missed last year without Alan Robinson
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Speaker 1: was that guy on third down that you knew that
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Speaker 1: when it was a battle of big bodies, right, he
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Speaker 1: could get the ball, he could wall off, he could
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Speaker 1: use his body to shield himself and the ball from
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Speaker 1: the defender and come down with a tough catch on
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Speaker 1: third down and seven. So that's not Marquise's role, right
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Speaker 1: Marquis you know the route that Markis was run on
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Speaker 1: or was injured on, is the route that Marquise runs.
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Speaker 1: It's that quick across the middle. He's a tough guy,
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Speaker 1: and he gets separation and and he moves the chains
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Speaker 1: like he did in the divisional playoff game against Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 1: There were a couple of third and sevens late in
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Speaker 1: the ball game that he was that guy. So who
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Speaker 1: is going to be that guy here? We'll find out, right,
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Speaker 1: and I don't think we even have to limit it
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Speaker 1: to wide receiver with Austin'sparri and Jakin's team seems to
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Speaker 1: do that where he can find the ball and make
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Speaker 1: plays with it. So I don't think even have to
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Speaker 1: limit it. Why we're so it will take a long
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Speaker 1: We're not We're not far away from the story of
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Speaker 1: the season, so we will find out quickly. All right,
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Speaker 1: let's start with big things this morning on a Tuesday
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Speaker 1: Jags Drive time. Yes, big thing one. Now, what what
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Speaker 1: are the Jaguars going to do now that we know
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Speaker 1: Marquise Lee is out for the season. We think they're
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Speaker 1: gonna be Okay. We were in the locker room yesterday
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Speaker 1: and the wide receiver group thinks that they're positive and
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Speaker 1: that they think they can handle it. D J. Charks said,
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Speaker 1: Marquis Lee is still present in this locker room regardless
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Speaker 1: of injury and the fact that you know, uh Kes's injury,
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Speaker 1: but he's not gone, you know, so we're definitely gone.
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Speaker 1: Always still be in contact with them. He's definitely going
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Speaker 1: to be able to like watch film and give input
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Speaker 1: on different things that he feel like we can fix.
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Speaker 1: So even though he's not there physically, he's still going
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Speaker 1: to there to hip us out. So here's the name
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Speaker 1: that wasn't on the pole that probably should be in retrospect,
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Speaker 1: and that's Dante mon Creef. So this is just shortly
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Speaker 1: after Markuise goes down. Bag, here's your nine million dollar man.
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Speaker 1: Remember Marquis signed a deal that paid him nine million
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Speaker 1: dollars this year, and so did mon Creef on a
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Speaker 1: one year deal. Mont Creep comes up with a huge play.
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Speaker 1: He's got speed, he understands the passing game from playing
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Speaker 1: with Andrew Luck in a very complex offense, complex passing game.
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Speaker 1: I think he runs good routes. I think he's He's
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Speaker 1: a guy who has not been able to stay healthy
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Speaker 1: over the last few years. However, I think he is
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Speaker 1: probably the most likely option because he's big. He's bigger
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Speaker 1: than Marquise. He's almost six too, he's two pounds. He's
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Speaker 1: a big, strong guy with great acceleration. Yeah, and I
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Speaker 1: think when Markisley went down, the first thing you worry
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Speaker 1: about was the leadership component. Who's going to lead this room.
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Speaker 1: Who's gonna step up? Dante Moncreef. We talked to him
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Speaker 1: yesterday and we asked, you know how what type of
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Speaker 1: leader are you and said, I'm not really a vocal leader.
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Speaker 1: I lead by example. And that play right there, we
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Speaker 1: all saw him step up and the whole wide receiver
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Speaker 1: group set up because of that. There are enough vocal
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Speaker 1: guys in that locker room. I don't know that they
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Speaker 1: need another one. And let's be honest, Marquis was vocal
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Speaker 1: in the meeting room, but you didn't hear Marky's barking
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Speaker 1: a lot Marquise, and let's be Leadership can get overblown
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Speaker 1: at the NFL level. If you can play, you can lead.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're not contributing. If you're not playing,
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Speaker 1: guys don't want to hear it, right, But what Marquise
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Speaker 1: did was he made the tough catch on third down,
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Speaker 1: He made the block that sprung the down field runner. Right.
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Speaker 1: He lead with what he did on the field. That's
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Speaker 1: what they need. So Dante, who cares whether he can
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Speaker 1: say something, who cares? Let him go out and make
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Speaker 1: plays like that. Everyone else will follow. You know, Keelan
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Speaker 1: is not an outspoken guy. He's a good talker, but
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Speaker 1: he's not going to stand and bang his fist. But
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Speaker 1: he'll lead with what he does with big catches and
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Speaker 1: big plays like he did against Seattle here. Um, I
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Speaker 1: don't think you have to worry about that. I think
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Speaker 1: you know who the leader in the locker room or
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Speaker 1: in the wide receiver room will be Keenan McCardell DJ Sharks.
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Speaker 1: And the same thing as that's the guy that they
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Speaker 1: look up to for a leadership stand Keenan McCardell was
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Speaker 1: always the guy you listened to because Keenan McCardell was
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Speaker 1: a guy who would take the big hit over the middle.
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Speaker 1: In a key game against Baltimore here there was a
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Speaker 1: not a vicious person, but a vicious safety, Eric Turner.
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Speaker 1: I mean he cut guys in half in the middle
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Speaker 1: of field back before the rules were changed to impact
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Speaker 1: those hits today. And Keenan on two consecutive third and
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Speaker 1: long caught the ball, took the hit, got up and
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Speaker 1: went in line back up again. Keenan McCardell's history, his stats,
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Speaker 1: his performance on the field and in the meeting rooms
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Speaker 1: means he'll lead this group. You don't need to look
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Speaker 1: for the leader. It's right there right now, right and
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Speaker 1: it should be the coach. And with how vocal he
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Speaker 1: is and he has so much fun with that group.
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Speaker 1: You watched them on the practice field and its seem
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Speaker 1: to enjoy each other's company. So despite keeps being injured,
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Speaker 1: I'm still I'm sure he'll still be present. Here's the
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Speaker 1: other thing. This is how leaders are made, right. So
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Speaker 1: if you're looking for someone to merge bringing someone in
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Speaker 1: to be the leader, right, if you're looking for that
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Speaker 1: veteran leadership presence that suffocates a young player. Maybe D D.
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Speaker 1: Westbrook rises to the occasions year, maybe DJ Chark sees
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Speaker 1: a gap and rises to the occasion. But if you
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Speaker 1: bring someone in, you kind of you negate the opportunity
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Speaker 1: for the young oaks. Yeah, we talked to DJ Chark
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Speaker 1: yesterday and we were talking about you know, do you
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Speaker 1: feel at it pressure now that this happening goes No,
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Speaker 1: I mean I know I have to grow up and
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Speaker 1: now I just have to grow up quicker. Yeah, those
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Speaker 1: sorts of situations turn young men into veteran players, even
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Speaker 1: in their rookie season. So I don't think they need
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Speaker 1: that veteran presence. I think there's plenty of guys that
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Speaker 1: can do it. I don't know whether they look forward
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Speaker 1: to whether they are looking forward, but I don't think
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Speaker 1: they need to go do it today. There is time,
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Speaker 1: all right, big thing too. Giants next, technically Tampa's next,
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Speaker 1: but this team is already planning for the New York
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Speaker 1: Giants regular season game. We spoke to Dante Montcrief yesterday
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Speaker 1: in the locker room. He said he's already ready for
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Speaker 1: the regular season. Oh yeah, feel good. I gotta keep going,
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Speaker 1: stay focused on, stay healthy and um, keep my legs first,
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Speaker 1: and get rid of in New York. Man, they played
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Speaker 1: me this week. I'm ready to go and that just
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Speaker 1: get rid of New York and go out there and
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Speaker 1: make plays. But this offense is a special that a
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Speaker 1: lot of athletic guys, as guys, young guys will want
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Speaker 1: to make play, so they're gonna be fun to see.
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Speaker 1: You Gotta keep it clicking and start mess up on
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Speaker 1: a smaller things and get ready to go. That's the
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Speaker 1: veteran presence right there. I mean, these guys have been
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Speaker 1: focusing on getting their bodies right and getting ready to
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Speaker 1: play the regular season. For them, the preseason is about
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Speaker 1: getting a couple of snaps, working on the timing, understanding
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Speaker 1: any nuances and wrinkles that Nate Hackett is putting into
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Speaker 1: the offense, or Todd wash is working with the defense,
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Speaker 1: or Jody Comillson's special teams. But at this point now
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Speaker 1: they're focused on the Giants and the matchups that are
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Speaker 1: head you mentioned. You know, the coaching staff has already
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Speaker 1: been working on They started working on that, and you
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Speaker 1: know when the schedule came out, So they're looking at
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Speaker 1: that in late April and early May, and they start
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Speaker 1: working on the matchups. They start thinking about what they
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Speaker 1: need and how they need to accomplish it so that
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Speaker 1: they're ready to put the game plan in. Yeah, they're
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Speaker 1: focused on the regular season. The guys who are focused
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Speaker 1: on Tampa are those guys at the bottom of the
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Speaker 1: roster who are fighting for three, four or five, six, seven,
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Speaker 1: eight jobs. I should say on the three plus, you've
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Speaker 1: got the eight man practice squad. So these guys, Thursday
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Speaker 1: night are about finding a way to stick around. Right.
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Speaker 1: There will be injuries, there will be opportunities here or elsewhere.
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Speaker 1: Thursday night is the audition night for a lot of guys.
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Speaker 1: Stay in the queue, stay in the consciousness of the
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Speaker 1: NFL so that they can have a chance to try
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Speaker 1: to earn a job somewhere else or at some other
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Speaker 1: time but these guys are focused on the Giants, right.
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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. People always say, you know, they're
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Speaker 1: they're fighting for their job right here, right now. But
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Speaker 1: we've heard so many times that these games are like
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Speaker 1: resume tapes for these people. I mean they're going out,
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Speaker 1: they're putting on tape, they're putting on plays, and the
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Speaker 1: entire league is watching these guys. Well, you to talk
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Speaker 1: to Fred, right, who's been around the last couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: You ask him and lots of people I think you did.
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Speaker 1: What's Kelvin doing right, Kelvin Taylor, who was drafted by
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Speaker 1: the Niners and who's bounced around. I think he was
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Speaker 1: with the Browns most recently. He's down in Miami, working out,
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Speaker 1: waiting for a chance. He'd love to be getting a
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Speaker 1: chance on Thursday night to play against the Bucks. Not
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Speaker 1: because he thinks he's going to make the roster here.
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Speaker 1: He wouldn't, not with the talent that's sitting here. But
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Speaker 1: he isn't getting the chance to play and put something
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Speaker 1: on tape for all these guys. So Fred's encouraging him
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Speaker 1: to go and try Canada. If he doesn't get it
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Speaker 1: anywhere where he can be playing with the helmet on
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Speaker 1: so that on scouts can see it and see if
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Speaker 1: there's some way that he fits into what they want
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Speaker 1: to do. Right. It's hard when there's that tape that's
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Speaker 1: not sitting out there for a Dave called well to
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Speaker 1: go pull out and put on right away recent tape
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Speaker 1: and just to stay in the conversation. Stay that's it
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Speaker 1: all right. Big thing three is numbers. Football is a
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Speaker 1: numbers game. We just talked about all these guys trying
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Speaker 1: to make the roster, roster forty six on game day,
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Speaker 1: we're looking at position groups. How many guys are you
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Speaker 1: going to keep with the wide receivers, with the running backs,
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Speaker 1: with even the defensive line. Right, So the fifty three
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Speaker 1: is the number we talk about all the time time
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Speaker 1: because those are the guys that get the game check, right,
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Speaker 1: whether they're active on game day or not, if they're
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Speaker 1: on the fifty three, they're getting their game check. Um. Really,
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Speaker 1: what coaches look for is thet plus one or the
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Speaker 1: forty six. It used to be the forty five plus
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Speaker 1: one because everybody carried a third quarterback. Now they just
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Speaker 1: called it the forty six. You're looking for who you
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Speaker 1: can have active because actually you're only gonna have seven
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman active on any given Sunday afternoon that maybe matchup. Right.
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Speaker 1: That may be because you want an extra defensive lineman,
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Speaker 1: or you need an extra linebacker or a tight end
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Speaker 1: active in that game. Um, but you need to find
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Speaker 1: forty six guys that you can count on that can
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Speaker 1: be active every week. The best example of that this
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Speaker 1: year is D D. Westbrook. Right. So d D fits
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Speaker 1: in some game plans is the receiver, but he's not
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Speaker 1: that one, right, And he's not a slot receiver. He's
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Speaker 1: an outside receiver. So how do you have D. D.
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Speaker 1: Westbrook active every week so that you can have the
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Speaker 1: playbook open, the entire playbook for the package that he
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Speaker 1: does best in right, the screen game. Um, he's got
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Speaker 1: to play special teams. He's when I've been talking about
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Speaker 1: they want him to win that punt returner job, it's
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Speaker 1: because they want him as one of the forty six.
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Speaker 1: They want to be able to count on him weekend
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Speaker 1: and week out. You look at a guy like Rashad
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Speaker 1: Green Jr. We've heard that he has to be able
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Speaker 1: to cover kicks. It's not been his game. He's been
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Speaker 1: the guy who returned the kicks. Now they want him
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Speaker 1: to be able to show that he can cover kicks.
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Speaker 1: Of course, that was before Marquis got hurt. That was
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Speaker 1: when we're talking about whether he was gonna make it
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Speaker 1: or not make the fifty three. Now that looks more likely.
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Speaker 1: But in order to be part of the fifty or
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Speaker 1: forty six, he's got to show you more than just
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Speaker 1: return ability slot receiver ability. He's got to be able
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Speaker 1: to get out and cover kicks. So you look right now,
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Speaker 1: you want to keep as many big guys as possible, Ran,
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Speaker 1: So when you look at it, your seven or eight
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Speaker 1: that you can go right down the line with the
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I mean you got your starting five. Ryan
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Speaker 1: Tyler Shatley is obviously six. You know, Will Richardson makes
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Speaker 1: your roster. He's a fourth round pick. You can't put
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Speaker 1: him on the actor squad. Someone's going to come in
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Speaker 1: and take him. He ain't gonna be part of your
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Speaker 1: fifties or your forty six on game day. He's more
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Speaker 1: likely to be part of your fifty three, but inactive,
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Speaker 1: so who else makes it? Right? So you're gonna keep
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Speaker 1: nine because you're probably gonna have eight offensive lineman. You
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Speaker 1: want to be able to practice Josh Wells, he's gotta
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Speaker 1: play up a little bit. He's got to play a
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Speaker 1: little bit better. He's probably your swing tackle because Richardson
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Speaker 1: hasn't earned it this year, and then Chris Reed has
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Speaker 1: gotten some starting time and done a nice job. Big
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Speaker 1: strong guy can play either guard spot, maybe could learn
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Speaker 1: to play center if you needed and wanted to cross
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Speaker 1: trains and that you could have him on your six.
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Speaker 1: You see what I mean. It's so specific and each
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Speaker 1: position group. I'm sure they spent copious amounts of time
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Speaker 1: looking at each position group. With these numbers, how many
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Speaker 1: receivers do you want? Well, we've been talking about five
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Speaker 1: and six guys, but now you're talking about Keelan Cole,
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Speaker 1: d D Westbrook, Donte Moncrief, d J. Chark, Rashad Green,
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Speaker 1: Jadon Mickens. I mean there's do you keep six? Well?
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Speaker 1: How many tight ends? Does that impact? Um? I think
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Speaker 1: as a rule, most coaches have an idea of what
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Speaker 1: they're comfortable with because that gets their forty six. The
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Speaker 1: number of guys that you've got on the practice field
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Speaker 1: and their practice squad, by the way, will be dictated
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Speaker 1: by their roster. They'll sign extra of a position. Offensive
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Speaker 1: lineman tight ends you choose based on their forty six
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Speaker 1: there um A lot of this too could be decided
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Speaker 1: by injury. So just as an example, Marcel Darius came
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Speaker 1: out of the game the other day with a peck right, uh,
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Speaker 1: and I think he missed the game in Minnesota for
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Speaker 1: the exact same reason. So do you keep an extra
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle for a couple of weeks until you're sure
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Speaker 1: of where he's at? And if you keep an extra
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle, does that cost you a tight end? Right?
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Speaker 1: So the fifty three is it starts the season obviously,
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Speaker 1: injury wise, it becomes a very fluid number. Um, if
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Speaker 1: you were to ask Doug today and he's speaking this morning,
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Speaker 1: so how many offensive linemen are you gonna keep? How
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Speaker 1: many you know defensive backs are you gonna keep? You know?
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Speaker 1: I mean, he'll talk about having some ideas, but he's
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Speaker 1: not give you hard and fast. No, we're not gonna
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Speaker 1: give you hard and fast because he can't not. We're
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Speaker 1: not to that point. Saturday, they'll have to make hard
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Speaker 1: decisions and there will be a guy who makes the roster,
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Speaker 1: like how did he make the roster? And why? What
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Speaker 1: is it a clue to write what is he telling
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Speaker 1: you with that guy, the fifty third guy, the tenth
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, perhaps you know who is as a nagging injury.
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Speaker 1: What are they gonna do with the game plan? Who
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Speaker 1: might slide to the practice squad. It's fascinating when you
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Speaker 1: start to look to see how they fit the pieces together,
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Speaker 1: and not just how, but why they put the pieces together.
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Speaker 1: It's a good problem to have that with all of
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Speaker 1: this depth, all of this talent that we've talked about
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Speaker 1: throughout the entire offseason, trying to find all these guys
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Speaker 1: and make room for them. It's better than the opposite.
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Speaker 1: It's been more difficult in recent years around here because
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Speaker 1: it's been where do we find guys we don't have?
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Speaker 1: They're looking for more this year, you're trying to piece
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Speaker 1: it together and you know that there's gonna be two
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Speaker 1: or three guys you'd really like to get keep that
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Speaker 1: you just won't be able to That will sign somewhere else. Right.
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Speaker 1: We talked about it all of training camp when Marquis
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Speaker 1: Lee was healthy. How are you going to let go
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Speaker 1: of Jadon mckins that were shogging when you've they've proven
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Speaker 1: they can do it. They've proven they can make an impact,
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Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to let one of them go. Now,
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Speaker 1: you don't know, We'll find out, all right, all of
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16:10
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16:12
Speaker 1: I think within thirty six or forty eight hours they
16:14
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16:16
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16:21
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16:24
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Speaker 1: by m c U A. Welcome back to Jaggs Drive
17:46
Speaker 1: Time on this Tuesday morning. Like we said, the Jaguars
17:50
Speaker 1: will be going to Tampa on Thursday to face the
17:52
Speaker 1: Buccaneers in the final preseason game. And we're going to
17:54
Speaker 1: get a look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Casey Phillips,
17:57
Speaker 1: who is the Buccaneers team insider, k Seat. How's it
18:00
Speaker 1: going wonderful? How are you guys? We are good. We're
18:04
Speaker 1: busy getting ready for the final period seating game. How
18:07
Speaker 1: are you guys? What's going on in Tampa? Man? Yeah,
18:10
Speaker 1: we are excited for the final game. We just unveiled
18:13
Speaker 1: yesterday a whole news naming rights for our entire practice facility.
18:17
Speaker 1: So it's it's been a hop and week down here
18:19
Speaker 1: as well, and training camp has a whole well how
18:22
Speaker 1: has it gone for you? Hasn't seemed longed? Who stood
18:24
Speaker 1: out the whole nine yards? Oh my gosh, man, Yeah,
18:28
Speaker 1: it's I think training camp always seems long and like
18:30
Speaker 1: it flies by, which I don't really understand the physics
18:33
Speaker 1: behind that, but uh, this one has definitely been interesting.
18:36
Speaker 1: The biggest topic of discussion is how the time was
18:39
Speaker 1: going to be split amongst the quarterbacks and how that
18:42
Speaker 1: would work of trying to prepare essentially to starters. And
18:46
Speaker 1: so training camp was really interesting watching Ryan Fitzpatrick run
18:50
Speaker 1: a lot with the ones, and uh, Jamis Winston running
18:53
Speaker 1: with basically everybody, and it looked like that ended up
18:56
Speaker 1: being incredibly helpful in a lot of ways, because a
19:00
Speaker 1: wide receiver corp in particular is incredibly deep this year.
19:03
Speaker 1: It's one of those good problems everyone talks about where
19:05
Speaker 1: we don't really know who all is gonna make that
19:07
Speaker 1: final spot or two. Uh, but basically Jamie's got a
19:11
Speaker 1: chance to work with everyone, and so some of these
19:13
Speaker 1: guys that were considered second or third teamers. Jamie still
19:17
Speaker 1: has got a lot of really great work with them,
19:18
Speaker 1: and our offense overall has just been clicking, and training
19:22
Speaker 1: camp has seemed great. It's our first year getting to
19:24
Speaker 1: do it in the indoor, which I love because it's
19:27
Speaker 1: a littlarity condition and everyone's enjoyed that. So, yeah, camp
19:29
Speaker 1: once gone really well. So what's the thought with um
19:32
Speaker 1: with the starters on Thursday? Does Dirk sit them? And
19:35
Speaker 1: if he does, does Jamis get treated like a starter
19:38
Speaker 1: even though he's gonna miss some time? Yeah, so coach
19:41
Speaker 1: has said he does not expect Jamis to play Thursday,
19:44
Speaker 1: that both Ryan Fitzpatrick and Jamis Winston will fit. That
19:47
Speaker 1: has been essentially the thought all preseason is that they
19:50
Speaker 1: are both considered starters, so they're both going to arrest,
19:53
Speaker 1: which means essentially you were done seeing Jamis in a
19:56
Speaker 1: game until his suspension is over. Uh So now you're
20:00
Speaker 1: gonna get to see Ryan Griffin out there, and I think,
20:03
Speaker 1: at least for Bucks fans, it's been a very interesting
20:05
Speaker 1: thing to see him because last year he and Ryan
20:07
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick were basically battling for who would be the backup,
20:10
Speaker 1: and it looked, you know, pretty even and like and like.
20:13
Speaker 1: Griffin was looking really good and then he unfortunately got
20:16
Speaker 1: hurt pretty early in the preseason, and a lot of
20:18
Speaker 1: people wonder what would have happened Is he hadn't, would
20:20
Speaker 1: he be the one instead who's backing up Jamis this year?
20:24
Speaker 1: And so I think they've also invested a roster spot
20:27
Speaker 1: in him for several years now that he has never
20:30
Speaker 1: actually had a regular season snap, but they have thought
20:32
Speaker 1: so highly of him they didn't dare risk putting him
20:34
Speaker 1: on the practice squad knowing he might get snatched away.
20:37
Speaker 1: So I think this is really when they're going to
20:38
Speaker 1: have to get a good look at him and see
20:40
Speaker 1: is this actually someone who could be the long term
20:42
Speaker 1: backup option for Jamis Winston When we know that as
20:45
Speaker 1: much as Fis magic seems like he will be young forever,
20:48
Speaker 1: he won't be He's He's a really interesting time to see.
20:51
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick is the NFL's version of the common cold.
20:54
Speaker 1: You know, you just can't kill him. I mean, fourteen
20:56
Speaker 1: years out of Harvard St. Louis, Cincinnati, buff Beload, Tennessee, Tampa,
21:01
Speaker 1: He's been almost everywhere. Um, what's he like to cover.
21:05
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, it's a very bright guy, and he's
21:08
Speaker 1: a guy who saves. Now he's seen so much. Do
21:11
Speaker 1: you is he as much fun to cover as it
21:13
Speaker 1: would seem that he would be. He is so fun.
21:17
Speaker 1: I can honestly say he is one of my absolute
21:19
Speaker 1: favorites I've ever covered. He is funny and humble. Uh.
21:23
Speaker 1: He has like a thousand kids and it's amazing, and
21:26
Speaker 1: the family is so cute. They go running out there
21:28
Speaker 1: after every practice at training camp, and even like his
21:31
Speaker 1: his wife and kids will run relay races against each
21:34
Speaker 1: other and they'll just go sit out on the field
21:36
Speaker 1: and hang out with him. And he's just such a
21:39
Speaker 1: down to earth guy and always very respectful of the media.
21:42
Speaker 1: And it's fun. And his teammates all of him, and
21:44
Speaker 1: we joked that he's one of the guys that gets
21:46
Speaker 1: along with everyone. You'll see him talking to so many
21:49
Speaker 1: random people in the locker room that instead of there
21:51
Speaker 1: being kind of the little pockets of friend groups, he
21:54
Speaker 1: talks to everybody. And it's it's a great dynamic of
21:57
Speaker 1: a guy to have as a leader, and the perfect
21:59
Speaker 1: veteran leader to step up in this sort of unconventional
22:02
Speaker 1: start to a season. Defensively, you guys definitely have some playmakers.
22:06
Speaker 1: What have you seen from that side of the ball
22:08
Speaker 1: during training camp and after the quarterback situation, The defense
22:13
Speaker 1: has definitely been the second biggest storyline, first and foremost
22:16
Speaker 1: the defensive line that they put tons of effort into
22:20
Speaker 1: revamping that for this year. That you've had Gerald McCoy
22:23
Speaker 1: for years, and the poor guys had to face so
22:25
Speaker 1: many double teams. It's incredible. And so they draft thea Veta,
22:28
Speaker 1: they signed bo Al, and they signed Viny Kerry, they
22:30
Speaker 1: trade for JPP and that line just looks on paper
22:34
Speaker 1: like it should be unstoppable. And of course everyone couldn't
22:37
Speaker 1: wait to get to the preseason to see how that
22:38
Speaker 1: was gonna look. But of course you don't bust out
22:40
Speaker 1: your crazy blitz packages in preseason. You keep it pretty basic.
22:43
Speaker 1: So I know in the first game, Gerald McCoy talked
22:46
Speaker 1: about they still wanted to improve a little bit in
22:48
Speaker 1: the run game. With how they did, he got in there,
22:50
Speaker 1: got a stack lass game. So they have looked good,
22:52
Speaker 1: but you can tell that you haven't gotten a full
22:54
Speaker 1: sense of what they're going to be able to do.
22:56
Speaker 1: Then you also have multiple rookies that you brought in
22:59
Speaker 1: in that secondary who have all made really big plays.
23:01
Speaker 1: I think when you asked me earlier who's really stood
23:03
Speaker 1: out in camp, I would say all three of the
23:05
Speaker 1: rookies that you've got back to You've got Carlton Davis
23:08
Speaker 1: and you know you've got him J. Stewart, You've got
23:10
Speaker 1: Jordan Whitehead, and they've all made their plays. M J.
23:12
Speaker 1: Stewart looks like a ball hawk in that game in Tennessee,
23:15
Speaker 1: forcing a couple of fumbles. So I think that in general,
23:18
Speaker 1: all those new pieces, everyone is really excited to see
23:20
Speaker 1: what they're gonna look like in a regular season game
23:22
Speaker 1: when you're bringing the full heat on your defense. So
23:25
Speaker 1: JPP returns to Tampa, obviously where he played college football.
23:28
Speaker 1: Does he seem rejuvenated? What do you see from him
23:31
Speaker 1: on the practice field? He has been probably one of
23:36
Speaker 1: the most pleasant surprises. Not in the sense that we
23:39
Speaker 1: didn't expect things from him, but we expected the XS
23:42
Speaker 1: and O side. But his leadership and energy and fire
23:45
Speaker 1: and passion that he's brought has been unbelievable. He gave
23:49
Speaker 1: a huge speech to the team after one of the
23:51
Speaker 1: practices in Tennessee that we did where he was just
23:53
Speaker 1: going nuts about how much this game means to him
23:56
Speaker 1: and how you can never take it for granted, and
23:58
Speaker 1: how he expects the same from all of them. Um,
24:00
Speaker 1: we had a special Olympics event after practice last week
24:03
Speaker 1: and he stole the show. He was just incredible with
24:06
Speaker 1: all those kids. He's out there helping the young guys
24:08
Speaker 1: every day and bring it and on One on One's
24:11
Speaker 1: online d line, he has made some incredible moves. So
24:15
Speaker 1: he is not one of those guys that later in
24:17
Speaker 1: his career just kind of rest on his laurels and
24:19
Speaker 1: doesn't bring it in practice. Every day. He is setting
24:22
Speaker 1: the tone both on the field and off the field,
24:24
Speaker 1: and we've all thought, man like, this guy is even
24:27
Speaker 1: better than we thought he was going to be coming in.
24:29
Speaker 1: You know, Casey, this morning, we were sitting here watching
24:31
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football and they were talking, you know, who's
24:33
Speaker 1: going to be this year's Jaguars, that team that nobody
24:37
Speaker 1: expects that everyone's kind of looking at, thinking maybe there's
24:40
Speaker 1: six and ten, maybe they're eight and eight. Who's that
24:43
Speaker 1: team that's going to surprise people? And Tampa's name came up.
24:47
Speaker 1: You know, they think that the Bucks are going to
24:50
Speaker 1: be that team this year that rises and surprises people.
24:53
Speaker 1: Is that your expectation is that the expectation of people
24:57
Speaker 1: in Tampa this year, that there's something to be seen
25:00
Speaker 1: them these Bucks. Yeah, I think that the hard knocks
25:04
Speaker 1: epidemic that hit last year, where everyone all of a
25:06
Speaker 1: sudden just the hype was so huge for the team,
25:09
Speaker 1: and they had brought in some exciting pieces and so
25:11
Speaker 1: it made sense. And then no one expected last year
25:14
Speaker 1: to go the way that it did. And I know
25:15
Speaker 1: that no one believes you know that, you always say,
25:18
Speaker 1: of course you are what your record says you are.
25:19
Speaker 1: But at the same time, no one felt like this
25:22
Speaker 1: team was a five and eleven team last year. And
25:25
Speaker 1: now all they've done is add huge pieces in the
25:28
Speaker 1: areas that they needed it. They didn't lose, you know,
25:31
Speaker 1: much of anyone, and so it's in theory, yeah, this
25:33
Speaker 1: team should be huge, and especially considering the expectations, they
25:38
Speaker 1: absolutely are going to outperform those because I've seen predictions
25:41
Speaker 1: where they're saying the Bucks are are dead last in
25:43
Speaker 1: the league, boarding news predicting one and fifteen and all
25:46
Speaker 1: of us down here just like, are you serious, Like
25:47
Speaker 1: if you've seen this roster and I get that they
25:50
Speaker 1: underperformed last year, and they're in a tough division, and
25:53
Speaker 1: of course we have the hardest three game stretch to
25:56
Speaker 1: open the season since the Super Bowl era. Uh so
26:00
Speaker 1: we have a lot going against us, and with the
26:02
Speaker 1: corner of the situations, but if you look at this
26:03
Speaker 1: roster and all especially the offensive weapons they have, there's
26:07
Speaker 1: just no way this team should be as bad as
26:09
Speaker 1: people are predicting. It's just mind blowing too well, And
26:12
Speaker 1: I think some people are a little skeptical. They don't
26:13
Speaker 1: know what to make of the quarterback situation. And and
26:16
Speaker 1: and when you get Jamis back, does he come back
26:18
Speaker 1: ready to play? So that's good that that at least
26:21
Speaker 1: they're able to focus and not worry about the expectations,
26:24
Speaker 1: because over here the expectations have grown so high. Um,
26:28
Speaker 1: it's almost I was working out this morning and someone
26:30
Speaker 1: was talking to me about it, and I thought, I
26:32
Speaker 1: don't know how anyone's It's like, people want you to
26:34
Speaker 1: be sixteen. And so sometimes sometimes being in that little
26:37
Speaker 1: bubble where no one has great expectations allows a talented
26:40
Speaker 1: team to rise. You. By the way, have two of
26:42
Speaker 1: the best that have ever come through here in Mike
26:45
Speaker 1: Smith and Mark Duffner on the staff, So please tell
26:47
Speaker 1: them hello from us. Absolutely, yeah, they're great. We all
26:50
Speaker 1: love them out here. You got it all right, and
26:52
Speaker 1: coach Cutter as well. So we'll take a break. Casey,
26:54
Speaker 1: thanks so much for your time. We appreciate you. You
26:58
Speaker 1: got a Casey Phillips from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. There's
27:02
Speaker 1: the game, folks, Jags and Bucks Thursday night, seven thirty,
27:05
Speaker 1: kickoff on w j a X here in Jacksonville. I'll
27:10
Speaker 1: have Fred Taylor in the booth with me. You will
27:12
Speaker 1: have Brett Martineau on the sidelines with you. Funny how
27:15
Speaker 1: it started this season that Brent had you with him
27:17
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27:25
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27:28
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Speaker 1: Normally we're here a thirty to nine thirty this week.
29:02
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29:04
Speaker 1: on Thursday in Tampa, and we're gonna take Friday off
29:07
Speaker 1: and kind of coast on into the last weekend and
29:09
Speaker 1: we'll have until hopefully in mid February. Not sorry about it,
29:14
Speaker 1: I didn't look sorry. I just want to make sure. Hey,
29:16
Speaker 1: let's take a look at the Twitter poll results today.
29:18
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29:20
Speaker 1: Shadrick will continue this on with Happy Hour this afternoon,
29:23
Speaker 1: so you can vote and check back in. You can
29:26
Speaker 1: see right away. Uh that D D. Westbrook is rocking
29:29
Speaker 1: that one. I thought we might see some moncrief in
29:31
Speaker 1: the comments. What do you see? I see no mon creef. Actually,
29:34
Speaker 1: the first comment from Linda, DD has made his own place.
29:37
Speaker 1: DJ Chart should step up into Mark Kee's's role as
29:40
Speaker 1: a big body receiver. I don't think DD has made
29:42
Speaker 1: his own play shot. We just saw a sampling of
29:45
Speaker 1: what his abilities are last year. I think he's still rising.
29:49
Speaker 1: I think he runs some of the same routes. We'll
29:52
Speaker 1: find out if he's as tough and as good a
29:55
Speaker 1: downfield blocker as if you're gonna fill it. It's not
29:59
Speaker 1: about the number of atches are the number of yards,
30:01
Speaker 1: It's about can you play the same style of game? Right?
30:03
Speaker 1: Indeedy has shown that he has similar attributes of Markisley
30:07
Speaker 1: has had a great camp. So there's the Twitter poll.
30:09
Speaker 1: Keep it going all day long and you'll see final
30:11
Speaker 1: results on Happy Hour this afternoon. All right, analysis town,
30:15
Speaker 1: This is where I sit back and just let you
30:16
Speaker 1: coach for the next uh five six minutes, six minutes.
30:20
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can do it that long. Alright,
30:22
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant, we have heard so much about this. Should
30:25
Speaker 1: the Jaguars bring in Dez Bryant because the Markisley injury.
30:29
Speaker 1: My take of it is, I don't think you need him.
30:32
Speaker 1: I think we have so much wide receiver depth on
30:34
Speaker 1: this team, and Dante Moncrief is a new edition. With
30:37
Speaker 1: Mark Kisley being injured, it's almost like Moncrief can step
30:40
Speaker 1: in and take that leadership role, or at least you hope.
30:42
Speaker 1: The other side of this is there's a reason does
30:45
Speaker 1: Bryant is not on a team right now. And that's
30:47
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me, I think is this league
30:49
Speaker 1: is so close to knit. Everyone knows each other, everyone
30:52
Speaker 1: is always in constant communication with each other from team
30:55
Speaker 1: to team. There's this message going around about Dez Bryant.
30:59
Speaker 1: There's a reason he's on a roster, and I think
31:01
Speaker 1: that is a big enough reason that the Jaguars just
31:04
Speaker 1: don't need to bring him in the locker room. Now.
31:05
Speaker 1: Some of the real the question is, so why isn't
31:08
Speaker 1: Why isn't anyone signed him? And you mentioned that there's
31:10
Speaker 1: a perception, but the perception isn't the same in league
31:13
Speaker 1: circles that it is maybe out on the internet. Right, Um,
31:18
Speaker 1: when you look up Dez Bryant, Yeah, I mean he's
31:21
Speaker 1: kind of a pain in the butt, right. But when
31:23
Speaker 1: I talk to people around the league, and I have
31:24
Speaker 1: this morning, including people in Dallas, they love him, right.
31:28
Speaker 1: They think he's passionate about the game. He cares about
31:30
Speaker 1: his teammates. He was compared by one guy to me
31:33
Speaker 1: this morning to Alan Hurns. He was a sixteen million
31:37
Speaker 1: dollar cap hit this year for the Dallas Cowboys. So
31:40
Speaker 1: the reasons why teams aren't interested is he's not the
31:42
Speaker 1: same explosive player he once was. He struggles to get separation, right,
31:47
Speaker 1: So you need a quarterback that can put the ball
31:48
Speaker 1: on a dime if you want Dez Bryant, well, they're
31:52
Speaker 1: only a handful of those guys that can play to
31:54
Speaker 1: that style. Obviously, the Cowboys didn't think he was worth
31:57
Speaker 1: the money, and so they had to move on. They
32:00
Speaker 1: had other salary cap considerations. I don't think he's the
32:03
Speaker 1: guy that this team needs. I don't think he fits here.
32:06
Speaker 1: From a playing perspective, I'm not sure. Yeah, he's kind
32:09
Speaker 1: of loud and abrasive, and I think people think, well,
32:12
Speaker 1: why would you want that, you know? And I think
32:14
Speaker 1: some people think that he's been a troubled guy, a
32:16
Speaker 1: bad guy, and I think around the league his loud
32:19
Speaker 1: personality gives him that. But the guys I talked to
32:22
Speaker 1: in Dallas had absolutely not a bad guy. Uh the
32:25
Speaker 1: kind of guy that you'd like to have in your
32:26
Speaker 1: locker room because he drives people to be their best.
32:30
Speaker 1: And you know, it brings me back to a situation, uh.
32:33
Speaker 1: In The Jaguars signed Keena mccardinal as a free agent.
32:37
Speaker 1: They had Jimmy Smith, who had had a big game
32:39
Speaker 1: in Denver at the end of the nine season, and
32:41
Speaker 1: they felt like they had some talent with Willie Jackson,
32:46
Speaker 1: the former Gator on the roster, but they didn't have
32:48
Speaker 1: that spark. They didn't have that guy they could take
32:50
Speaker 1: it over the top. So they signed Andre Risen, whose
32:53
Speaker 1: nickname was bad Moon, and he had some you know,
32:56
Speaker 1: his girlfriend burned his house down in Atlanta, right. Uh.
32:59
Speaker 1: He had known during his time with the Falcons and
33:02
Speaker 1: the Browns to be a bit of a malcontent. They
33:04
Speaker 1: brought him in and he was a pain in the
33:06
Speaker 1: butt for ten weeks, but he made plays. And the
33:08
Speaker 1: most important thing he did before they cut him, and
33:10
Speaker 1: they did cut him and after the game against Pittsburgh
33:13
Speaker 1: was he taught the young guys to believe in themselves.
33:16
Speaker 1: And Jimmy was a young guy, and Jimmy exploded right
33:19
Speaker 1: after that. The timing was good because Jimmy was ready
33:21
Speaker 1: to go and become a star player. Um. He established
33:26
Speaker 1: a rhythm in that locker room, in that in that
33:29
Speaker 1: meeting room that fit those receivers. I don't think you
33:33
Speaker 1: need that, because you got Keenan who can do that
33:35
Speaker 1: we just talked about earlier. I don't think you need
33:36
Speaker 1: an expensive Alan Hearns, which is what he was compared
33:39
Speaker 1: to buy an NFL guy. To me this morning, you
33:42
Speaker 1: just there's no reason to bring him in here for that, right,
33:47
Speaker 1: and we've taught and we definitely understand why it's such
33:49
Speaker 1: a major talking point and why people see both sides
33:52
Speaker 1: of it, and we both definitely do see both sides that.
33:54
Speaker 1: Stat wise, he's a great wide receiver. Here's here's what
33:57
Speaker 1: people will point to, and they're right. If you take
33:59
Speaker 1: what he did last year in Dallas with Dak Prescott,
34:02
Speaker 1: he is your leading receiver in terms of catches. He
34:05
Speaker 1: had more catches he had sixty nine. Marquise had fifty six.
34:09
Speaker 1: He had more yards he had eight d sixty three
34:11
Speaker 1: yards and heilan was your leading receiver with Seve and
34:15
Speaker 1: he had more touchdowns he had six. Mercedes Lewis led
34:17
Speaker 1: you with five. So that's an easy argument to make.
34:20
Speaker 1: Of course, that's what he did last year. Is a
34:23
Speaker 1: year older, you're slower, right at least it's been relayed
34:27
Speaker 1: to me, um, So you need to bring that in.
34:30
Speaker 1: I mean, heling you hope would take a step forward,
34:33
Speaker 1: did step forward. Chark obviously is a rookie, but a
34:36
Speaker 1: guy that you have hopes for his up his his upside,
34:39
Speaker 1: and we already talked about what happens when you bring
34:41
Speaker 1: in a star. They either let the sun shine through
34:44
Speaker 1: right to the young oaks that are rising, or they
34:47
Speaker 1: block it out. Who knows. I just don't know that
34:50
Speaker 1: you need to do that, agree, And I think we
34:52
Speaker 1: talked about it earlier in the show. When you have
34:53
Speaker 1: those holes to fill, it gives people the opportunity to
34:56
Speaker 1: rise up into those holes. And I see with the
34:57
Speaker 1: personalities of Chark and Westboro can heeling Cole, this is
35:01
Speaker 1: the perfect opportunity for them to do that. Don't think
35:02
Speaker 1: he's the right fit here, of course, you know. I
35:04
Speaker 1: mean if you get another injury, or if the if
35:06
Speaker 1: these younger guys got I mean Cole still is just
35:08
Speaker 1: a year a year plus removed from Kentucky Westland, right, Um,
35:13
Speaker 1: if you find that you need more, you can probably
35:16
Speaker 1: go get him, absolutely, because he hasn't been signed, and
35:19
Speaker 1: every team has had a shot at him now for
35:21
Speaker 1: months and hasn't signed him. So it's the speed. It's
35:24
Speaker 1: not the off the field issue. It's the separation. It's
35:27
Speaker 1: not that he's a bad guy in the locker room,
35:28
Speaker 1: and it's sad that that is his perception. You automatically
35:31
Speaker 1: think that when someone is on a roster. But with that, yeah,
35:33
Speaker 1: the separations He's had a couple of things. The house
35:36
Speaker 1: got trashed, the car. You know, he had some issues
35:39
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State with you, with Dion Sanders, who again,
35:42
Speaker 1: Dean's a good guy from what we hear, but tends
35:44
Speaker 1: to be loud and brash, and some people tend to
35:46
Speaker 1: stay away from it. They create issues in their own
35:48
Speaker 1: mind and they make them bigger, and so they think
35:50
Speaker 1: he's a bad guy. Again told this morning, not a
35:53
Speaker 1: bad guy. Guy who's passionate about football. And his teammates
35:56
Speaker 1: remember now, Tom Coughlin saw him twice a year in
36:00
Speaker 1: the same division. Guarantee they had a conversation about it.
36:04
Speaker 1: What they do about it? Yeah, I just don't see
36:06
Speaker 1: it fitting here. Agreed. That is my analysis. I'm sticking
36:08
Speaker 1: to it. And a little bit from me, just a
36:10
Speaker 1: little bit, just chime, yeah, just right, Thanks for letting
36:13
Speaker 1: me share your spotlight. Let the sun shine through this
36:16
Speaker 1: little oak. Try that's a receiver of letter. I have
36:19
Speaker 1: no doubt. All Right, NFL headlines, you want them, you
36:24
Speaker 1: go for it, all right, Here we go. Here are
36:26
Speaker 1: our NFL headlines for you this morning. Obviously, Odell Beckham Jr.
36:30
Speaker 1: Now the highest paid wide receiver in the game, great playmaker,
36:35
Speaker 1: the fastest to three catches and three thousand yards uh
36:39
Speaker 1: touchdown maker. He's my kids in the backyard play football,
36:44
Speaker 1: and they all want to be Oh b j right,
36:46
Speaker 1: They all want to be Odell Beckham junior. They all
36:48
Speaker 1: want to make the one handed catch. In the sense
36:50
Speaker 1: he's detriment to youth football because no youth football player
36:54
Speaker 1: wants to use both hands. He wants to stick one
36:56
Speaker 1: up there and see if you can make the dramatic
36:58
Speaker 1: catch that'll get him on Sports Center. It's just in.
37:00
Speaker 1: There are no cameras in the backyard, fellas. Um. But
37:03
Speaker 1: he he got twenty million dollars in a signing bonus
37:07
Speaker 1: UH fifty eight or fifty nine million dollars guaranteed, and
37:11
Speaker 1: it takes him to just under twenty million dollars a year,
37:14
Speaker 1: which makes him the highest paid receiver by a couple
37:17
Speaker 1: of million over Antonio Brown. Um. It's just in. It
37:21
Speaker 1: probably won't last. Julio Jones in Atlanta is now seeking
37:24
Speaker 1: a new deal. He has fuel for his fire, and
37:27
Speaker 1: Tonio Brown is one of the most um explosive. Wow,
37:32
Speaker 1: there's just not a yeah, there's yeah. Just keep going.
37:34
Speaker 1: I'll tell you when to stop. Yeah, well he's a
37:39
Speaker 1: great player. The leadership think it's over block talk about
37:42
Speaker 1: talent explosive, right, Um, he's going to seek some more
37:46
Speaker 1: money to there's other receivers. But Odell Beckham Jr. Got paid.
37:49
Speaker 1: The Giants realized what he means to them and if
37:51
Speaker 1: they're going to make a run, and they kept Eli
37:53
Speaker 1: manning not to transition them to their next era, but
37:57
Speaker 1: they thought they could get closer to the two thousand
37:59
Speaker 1: sixteen Alliance then the two thousand seventeen Giants. You gotta
38:02
Speaker 1: have Odell Beckham Jr. Clearly he is one of the
38:05
Speaker 1: great stars of the game. Speaking of stars of the game,
38:07
Speaker 1: our next headline is that Larry Fitzgerald is going to
38:10
Speaker 1: stand tall in honoring a friend, Arizona Senator John McCain.
38:15
Speaker 1: They're having a memorial service for the senator who just
38:18
Speaker 1: died of brain cancer and he and Larry Fitzgerald forged
38:21
Speaker 1: a friendship. Now, McCain obviously known as the maverick of
38:23
Speaker 1: the Senate, a guy who could cross party lines and
38:26
Speaker 1: get things done, anger people on both sides of the line,
38:30
Speaker 1: but an honest to goodness American hero for his time
38:32
Speaker 1: in the Navy and as a prisoner of war and
38:34
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, if you've ever heard or read anything with him,
38:38
Speaker 1: fascinating guy, really a broad minded guy who appeals to
38:43
Speaker 1: a lot of people, one of the great legends of
38:45
Speaker 1: this game, and a guy who's a great ambassador for
38:47
Speaker 1: the game. And he will he will do the NFL
38:52
Speaker 1: and the players proud when he stands and speaks on
38:56
Speaker 1: behalf of his friend, John McCain. A great for him,
39:00
Speaker 1: and I think it speaks for the NFL football for
39:04
Speaker 1: for for players to have one of their own speaking
39:07
Speaker 1: absolutely even though he's exceptional, he's not the norm, right,
39:09
Speaker 1: but to have the NFL represented in something as huge
39:12
Speaker 1: of a magnitude as that the only sport, by the way,
39:14
Speaker 1: there's a there's a member the Diamondbacks, a member of
39:17
Speaker 1: the Coyotes, and I think even someone from the Phoenix
39:20
Speaker 1: Suns that are acting as Paul Barris. John McCain reached
39:23
Speaker 1: out to a lot of different people and was incredibly
39:26
Speaker 1: loved in Arizona and the love is going to be
39:29
Speaker 1: returned this week when they have them more a certainly
39:30
Speaker 1: so good to see that the sports stars, in particular
39:32
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald engaged in this one Uh, this news this
39:36
Speaker 1: morning from e A Sports. They are now canceling the
39:40
Speaker 1: other two remaining e A Sports Maden nineteen tournaments. Uh.
39:47
Speaker 1: Apparently the video and the trauma that they're all feeling
39:50
Speaker 1: from what happened at the landing on Sunday afternoon, they're
39:53
Speaker 1: just going to put that one to rest. No reason
39:55
Speaker 1: to keep it going. I think that's a good move.
39:57
Speaker 1: I mean, it would be so hard to go right
39:59
Speaker 1: back into a turm ornament style a game like that.
40:02
Speaker 1: I think it's best to just leave it be, let
40:04
Speaker 1: people work covering. Get back to your decision on the
40:06
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40:21
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jags Drive time on this Tuesday morning.
41:49
Speaker 1: It's time for the man. You see what they're doing
41:51
Speaker 1: by the way right there? You see what that? You
41:53
Speaker 1: know what they're doing? What? Well, can't you tell painting lines?
41:58
Speaker 1: Thanks john Yeah right, they're starting to build the stage
42:01
Speaker 1: for the Leonard Skinner show. Ah, yes, how did I
42:03
Speaker 1: forget such a thing? Hey? Hey, Max friend, can you
42:06
Speaker 1: put that shot back up on the stadium real quick?
42:08
Speaker 1: I gotta point out to be the other rookie here.
42:10
Speaker 1: Uh that yeah? That that that that's not paint. Those
42:14
Speaker 1: are plastic pieces that they fit together to protect the
42:16
Speaker 1: field Johnson for a concert. Tred Johnson may have told
42:21
Speaker 1: you that they were going to start building the stage
42:23
Speaker 1: right after the game. The initial stage is going in
42:25
Speaker 1: for the big show Sunday here at the stadium. Jason Aldean,
42:29
Speaker 1: Kid Rock, Leonard, Skinnyerd, the good stuff. It would be
42:32
Speaker 1: really good all right now? How about a look at
42:35
Speaker 1: the Twitter pool? The live update of the Twitter pool
42:38
Speaker 1: one more time in this show. It'll be up all
42:40
Speaker 1: day long. What do they say? Vote often? Still still
42:45
Speaker 1: way up there? Not other? I think other might make
42:47
Speaker 1: a run at biting interview. I think you may see
42:50
Speaker 1: either names of players in the comments. Yeah, I think
42:53
Speaker 1: you may see some of that over the course of
42:54
Speaker 1: the day, so you'll see it up vote tell your friends.
42:58
Speaker 1: JP has it this afternoon on Happy Hour. All right,
43:03
Speaker 1: So speaking of Hap hap happy, the happy, happiest guy
43:06
Speaker 1: in the room who's had more than a week off
43:08
Speaker 1: is this guy, and we're ready to hear from him
43:11
Speaker 1: right now. I got it. I got the timing back.
43:18
Speaker 1: If you're a rodd about yourself, I feel better all right.
43:23
Speaker 1: By the way, good morning game, Joe, or I should say, hey, Joe,
43:28
Speaker 1: you know sometimes preseason games for could lack a little pozzess.
43:34
Speaker 1: When you say sometimes, do you mean the time ever?
43:40
Speaker 1: Every every single time? However, with that, I am forced
43:45
Speaker 1: to bring for you, uh, top five ways the Bucks
43:53
Speaker 1: are going to try to make this fourth preseason game
43:55
Speaker 1: a little more exciting. Does any of the room do
43:58
Speaker 1: any of them involved? Pirate ship? No, and cannons, But
44:02
Speaker 1: you're close though. Okay, Number one's gonna be I didn't
44:05
Speaker 1: get their one. Okay ready, all right? Number five, after
44:09
Speaker 1: the sun goes down, they're gonna leave the lights off
44:10
Speaker 1: because well they're used to playing in the Saints Falcons
44:13
Speaker 1: and Panthers shadow. I kind of like that one, Joe Kes.
44:16
Speaker 1: No no no, no, no no no no. I can imagine
44:18
Speaker 1: I'm calling the game, so I get to guessing and
44:20
Speaker 1: write my own show. Then, right, I get to go along.
44:23
Speaker 1: We're like one of those hard hats with the light
44:25
Speaker 1: the beacon. Every play would be a touchdown with the
44:28
Speaker 1: lights off. There you go, you go, Jackard would be
44:32
Speaker 1: every play would be interception, all right. Number four, to
44:35
Speaker 1: keep things loose before the game, jamis Winston. It's gonna
44:37
Speaker 1: tell the team a few jokes. Ironically, all those jokes
44:40
Speaker 1: are gonna sail over their hands. That's just sailed over mine.
44:44
Speaker 1: I like it though, Joe, I'm sorry, I like it
44:47
Speaker 1: all right. Number three, it's gonna be build There's a
44:50
Speaker 1: great time to check out all the young talent from
44:52
Speaker 1: all over and see how the fresh new faces are
44:54
Speaker 1: going to handle the largest stage they've ever played on. Awesome.
44:57
Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's a little world series also that's going
44:59
Speaker 1: to right now too. Isn't it a mistake? Yeah? Sorry
45:02
Speaker 1: about that again. Number two, These are, by the way,
45:05
Speaker 1: the top five ways the Bucks are going to try
45:08
Speaker 1: to make this fourth pre season game more exciting. Let's
45:10
Speaker 1: go you understand. I like the lights off. I got that,
45:12
Speaker 1: thank you, all right. A new fan friendly policy. If
45:15
Speaker 1: you've got a flat tire in the parking lot, one
45:17
Speaker 1: of the players will actually come out and help you
45:19
Speaker 1: fix it, unless, of course, it's a blowout in the
45:21
Speaker 1: lost show. I love it. That's hous ending, all right.
45:25
Speaker 1: And finally, this is the number one way the Bucks
45:29
Speaker 1: will make this fourth preseason game. We're exciting starting quarterback,
45:35
Speaker 1: you're bringing the parrot back. That's the second time in
45:39
Speaker 1: the last four teen shows that you've been able to
45:41
Speaker 1: use the parent. Who would have thought that you could
45:43
Speaker 1: do that? Joe the parent again? Is that the reference?
45:47
Speaker 1: Is that the reference to the pirate ship that was
45:51
Speaker 1: in the draft? That's right. I thought the parrot was
45:56
Speaker 1: on one of our shows already. That was the Draft.
45:59
Speaker 1: Jo the parrot. The stage got too big for him.
46:02
Speaker 1: During the NFL. The parrot might be a good sideline
46:05
Speaker 1: hit for you. Maybe we had the parrot sit on
46:08
Speaker 1: your shoulder. I think we should give that to Brett Martineau.
46:10
Speaker 1: He loves that. I don't think so. I can see
46:13
Speaker 1: you with the hat on and the parrot there, and
46:16
Speaker 1: oh god, I hope they're not listening. You once lived
46:19
Speaker 1: in Tampa, didn't you. I did. I was a Bucks
46:21
Speaker 1: fan way back in the day, a thirteen year old
46:24
Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan. I think a thirteen year old Ashland Sullivan
46:26
Speaker 1: would think it would be cool to have a parrot
46:27
Speaker 1: on her shoulder and TV at the same time. She
46:30
Speaker 1: would have right. Times have changed. They don't have to
46:33
Speaker 1: change as fast as you think. That was good, Joe,
46:36
Speaker 1: that was a good one. That was really the parrot. Again.
46:40
Speaker 1: Congratulations to you getting to refer to a parent named
46:42
Speaker 1: Ja twice in the same year. Thank you too for
46:45
Speaker 1: the opportunity. Well, we're happy, happy that you're back, Joe. Now,
46:49
Speaker 1: next time, can we move you to the top of
46:51
Speaker 1: the show somewhere we'd like to see you earlier a block.
46:54
Speaker 1: I think that would severely damage the program, But I'm
46:58
Speaker 1: here to do what you need. Sometimes we need to
47:00
Speaker 1: shake things up that ladies and gentlemen, the guy right
47:04
Speaker 1: there at the bottom of your screen, Hey, Joe Fortunato,
47:07
Speaker 1: a local legend. Just ask him time for top tweets,
47:11
Speaker 1: top tweets, tweet tweets, catch you little too, hi tweets
47:19
Speaker 1: to tweets? All right, what got He's all right? Jalen
47:23
Speaker 1: Ramsey's so convenient that he tweeted this out right after
47:29
Speaker 1: Adell Beckham Jr's contract extension news. It's going to be
47:32
Speaker 1: a show very soon hashtag Batman versus the Joker. Alright,
47:37
Speaker 1: A couple of thoughts here, Um, Jalen Ramsey is incredibly
47:40
Speaker 1: jealous of the money that he got. Now Jalen knows
47:45
Speaker 1: he's going to get that money too, so the jealousy
47:46
Speaker 1: doesn't last very long. So the question then becomes who's
47:50
Speaker 1: Batman and who's the Joker? I gotta think that the
47:53
Speaker 1: Batman is the guy who's knocking the ball away, right,
47:56
Speaker 1: although it was pointed out to me that the Batman
47:59
Speaker 1: lives in Gotham and Gotham is the Phoe New York.
48:03
Speaker 1: The question really is who does Jalen think he is.
48:06
Speaker 1: I've gotta think Jalen thinks he's Batman, has a little
48:09
Speaker 1: joker in in that little sinister fun side, you know.
48:13
Speaker 1: I bet I bet he'd be comfortable in either role
48:18
Speaker 1: as long as he comes out on top. Does the
48:19
Speaker 1: Joker ever beat Batman? I don't think so. Yeah, not
48:24
Speaker 1: at the end. At the end, Batman always wins as
48:27
Speaker 1: all right, But as a whole Brilli in depth tweet. Wait, yeah, no, no,
48:34
Speaker 1: it's one of the best top tweets. That's very clever.
48:37
Speaker 1: It makes you think it does all right. Now to
48:40
Speaker 1: a more serious note, quarterback Blake Bortles in his Blake
48:43
Speaker 1: Bortles five Foundation provided lunch for first responders yesterday in
48:48
Speaker 1: light of the shooting here in Jacksonville. Adam Schefter has
48:51
Speaker 1: the card that he wrote for all of the first
48:52
Speaker 1: responders involved. That's his main his foundation's main mission is
48:56
Speaker 1: protecting first responders. So, Um, there's a different topic between
49:00
Speaker 1: on the field and off the field. Uh. And we
49:02
Speaker 1: talked about Blake on the field all the time, and
49:05
Speaker 1: lately we've been having to defend him to some people
49:07
Speaker 1: who haven't seen his progress and his growth as a quarterback.
49:11
Speaker 1: But that right there, the note speaks for itself to
49:14
Speaker 1: the kind of person he is. Um, he didn't let
49:17
Speaker 1: you in all that much. I mean he doesn't didn't
49:19
Speaker 1: really care to. But that was outstanding and proud to
49:22
Speaker 1: be associated with franchise with players like that who he
49:27
Speaker 1: didn't need to do that. No, he also we didn't
49:30
Speaker 1: even we didn't even know that he was doing that.
49:31
Speaker 1: So he did it just out of the kindness of
49:33
Speaker 1: his heart. It wasn't for the media's sake to say, hey,
49:35
Speaker 1: look what I'm doing. He was doing that regard and
49:37
Speaker 1: there are plenty of guys who do that. You never
49:40
Speaker 1: hear about it, but the people whose lives they impact
49:43
Speaker 1: know it and that's enough for them. So great move
49:46
Speaker 1: for the quarterback to go do it. And by the way,
49:48
Speaker 1: he doesn't care that we're talking about it today because
49:50
Speaker 1: he didn't do it for that reason. Or is he
49:52
Speaker 1: probably listening and Okay, you don't be so surprised he
49:56
Speaker 1: heard you were on and we're gonna have a parrot
49:57
Speaker 1: on your shoulder. Yeah? Really, now he's tuning in absolute
50:00
Speaker 1: just because at a parrot. I'm watching Joe noves alright.
50:07
Speaker 1: Last one. Julian Edelman tweeted this out after the Odell
50:11
Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. Contract extension. A nice photo of two of them.
50:15
Speaker 1: Friendship is what makes a Man wealthy. Also contracts to
50:19
Speaker 1: hashtag dinner on Dell. Yeah. Can you imagine that dinner
50:23
Speaker 1: that twenty million dollars could buy? I would forget that.
50:26
Speaker 1: I mean just just the interest on it. What it
50:28
Speaker 1: earns in a day would buy an amazing meal that
50:31
Speaker 1: could be a steakhouse waiting to happen. That's Manny Steakhouse
50:35
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, where you turn and grab a bottle of
50:37
Speaker 1: Harlem the States screaming eagle at thirty and set it
50:40
Speaker 1: down and you say, I'll have two more of these,
50:41
Speaker 1: by the way, when this bottle is open and empty,
50:43
Speaker 1: why not you can now? Yeah, Yeah, it's a different
50:47
Speaker 1: world than I know. Friendship is what makes a man wealthy,
50:50
Speaker 1: well a wise man that a lot of Jaguars people
50:52
Speaker 1: will remember. Vick Catchman once said, it's memories that make
50:55
Speaker 1: us rich, and it's the memories of those paychecks to
50:58
Speaker 1: make a smile. Right, has to be, has to be.
51:01
Speaker 1: Are you done for Tuesday? If you got anything left
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Speaker 1: to say? Anything wise, anything quirky statements. I think we
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Speaker 1: got a new segment coming though. Right. She's not old
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Speaker 1: enough to remember the Boos commercials from Nike, but she
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Speaker 1: said Joe knows, and so I thought bo knows. I
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Speaker 1: got barbecue and I started drooling. Have Lothian ping on something?
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Speaker 1: If John were here to say Pavlog was a scientist
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Speaker 1: who had a dog that he was okay, Ashland, did
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Speaker 1: you know that exactly? Did you know that bo Jackson
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Speaker 1: wants did a series of commercials called bow Knows. I
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Speaker 1: didn't know that because he was that baseball player and
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Speaker 1: the football player, so they wanted to see how much
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Speaker 1: he knew. So we may come up with a new
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Speaker 1: segment called Joe Knows. I like it. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if he can handle it. Oh he can handle Its
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Speaker 1: not talking about like my nose. No, no, that too.
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Speaker 1: See it plays so so many different angles. Joe, it's
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Speaker 1: really good. I love it. Joe forts not Ali's gentlemen.
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Speaker 1: We are blessed to have him on the show. Blessed
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Speaker 1: blessed right hashtag, But so for Ashland Sullivan and that
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Speaker 1: guy Joe Fortunato and the guys in the control room
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Speaker 1: and the guys who are part of our production team.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us this morning. We'll see you tomorrow
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Speaker 1: for our final show of the week. John Osier is here.
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Speaker 1: Buckle up through that. Here's the rest of the day
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Speaker 1: in the week. Okay,