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Chuck in the Morning 9/10 H4: More MMQB with Hugh, Mike Sando and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Here is May. Quick look was close.
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  Speaker 2: Throwing it up to the air.
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  Speaker 1: Did he get the feet down?
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  Speaker 3: Jobe!
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  Speaker 4: Yes! A pick!
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  Speaker 3: A terrible decision! Josh!
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  Speaker 4: Jobe!
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  Speaker 2: We'll take it.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Thursday to you. My days are all screwed up.
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  Speaker 5: Don't move us backwards.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, National Football League. But, yes, wonderful Wednesday
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  Speaker 2: night here in Seattle. Great to be out at Lumen
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  Speaker 2: Field last night. Thank my buddy Chris for taking me
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  Speaker 2: to the football game last night.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Love to see the Patriot, the look on the Patriot fans'
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  Speaker 2: faces when they got a taste of what the 12
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  Speaker 2: sound like in Lumen Field. That was an amazing part
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  Speaker 2: of last night and just an amazing comeback win. 13-10
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  Speaker 2: over the New England Patriots. A bit sloppy, but in
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  Speaker 2: the end, Mike McDonald and the Super Bowl champs figure
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  Speaker 2: out a way to win that football game. It's a W,
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  Speaker 2: and now you move on. Sam Darnold injured last night.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know how long he's going to be out,
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  Speaker 2: but it is a hip injury, and it could be
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  Speaker 2: a while. I mean, there is a chance that it
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  Speaker 2: could be a while, even though Mike McDonald said after
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  Speaker 2: the game last night that they got great news on it.
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  Speaker 2: And I suppose that's that it's not a fracture, but
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  Speaker 2: we still are holding our breath as to whether or not,
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  Speaker 2: or breasts, as to whether or not Sam Darnold's going
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  Speaker 2: to be available anytime soon. So that gets you caught
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  Speaker 2: up to speed. We have broken down a lot of
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  Speaker 2: things this morning with Hugh Millen, our QB1, a Monday
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  Speaker 2: morning quarterback session on a Thursday here for you. But
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  Speaker 2: there are a lot of things we haven't gotten to.
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  Speaker 2: So I want to make sure we cover a lot
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  Speaker 2: of ground here. Um, let's talk about Brian Flory making
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  Speaker 2: his debut last night as offensive coordinator certainly was handed
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  Speaker 2: a raw deal, you know, four games into his first
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  Speaker 2: game calling plays and he loses his starting quarterback, uh, Hugh,
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  Speaker 2: but how do you think that he fared? Give me
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  Speaker 2: an analysis and evaluation of Brian Flory and his debut.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I, I think you attach all kinds of mulligans, right?
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  Speaker 3: To that, that very fact that you just cited, um,
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  Speaker 3: it's going to have to be better. You got, you
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  Speaker 3: got to put up more than 13 points. Can't win
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL without that. Um, so, uh, I, I
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  Speaker 3: think we just, the sensible part of it is to
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  Speaker 3: withhold judgment. The part that I, I can, I'll tell
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  Speaker 3: you the fourth and one call was a hell of
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  Speaker 3: a call given, uh, that, that you're, you're talking about
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  Speaker 3: just running Z spot there, that, that there, there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of ways defenses can cover that on a, on a,
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  Speaker 3: on a short yardage situation. And, uh, And he got
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  Speaker 3: a wide open receiver on that. I would say that
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  Speaker 3: I feel like there should be more use of the
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  Speaker 3: screen game. And then when I watch the All-22, I've
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  Speaker 3: got several notes here that he has wide receivers. I
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  Speaker 3: talked about this even in the preseason. He has wide
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  Speaker 3: receivers that are getting stacked underneath each other. And it's
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  Speaker 3: a really important part of play construction that you don't
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  Speaker 3: have receivers. Everybody knows you can't have them in the
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  Speaker 3: same area. But, for example, and again, I've got a
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  Speaker 3: number here, but this one I took note because there was,
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  Speaker 3: on both sides of the field, there was two situations
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  Speaker 3: where there were stacked receivers. Now, you had Jackson Smith
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  Speaker 3: and Jigma on a coral route to– drew locks left
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  Speaker 3: if he would have thrown that you had Rashid Shaheed
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  Speaker 3: running on a shallow cross to create kind of like
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  Speaker 3: are you trying to create a curl flat from the
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  Speaker 3: other or or are you trying to that makes no
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  Speaker 3: sense but if if you're trying to hold it where
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  Speaker 3: Shaheed would be more in the middle of Uh, and, and, uh,
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  Speaker 3: and Jackson Smith and Jigba would be one more to
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  Speaker 3: the outside. That would make sense. But, but Shahid with
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  Speaker 3: the split. So you had Rashid.
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  Speaker 1: Right underneath the, and, and in the throwing lane, if
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  Speaker 1: you're going to throw to.
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  Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba on the other side, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: write the number down, but, um, somebody, I think it
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  Speaker 3: was cup. Yeah, it was cup cup ran an over route.
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  Speaker 1: And you had A.J.
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  Speaker 3: Barner running what's called a flat China where you run
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  Speaker 3: to the flat and then you run back in. And
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  Speaker 3: if he was throwing to cup, which I think there
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  Speaker 3: was an opportunity to do it, right at the time
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  Speaker 3: that he would be throwing to cup in man coverage
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  Speaker 3: because cup won by a step. But you got Barner
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  Speaker 3: that's right underneath it. And it's not just Barner one person.
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  Speaker 3: It's the guy covering Barner. So that's two people. That
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  Speaker 3: gets in your vision. And, man, you can't play with timing.
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  Speaker 3: So I just described one play where both the left
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  Speaker 3: and the right side of the play, you're stacked. I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't bring it up if it was a one-off. As
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  Speaker 3: I said, I noted it in the preseason. I noted
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  Speaker 3: it last night. He played quarterback at Townsend State or something.
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  Speaker 3: So at least he's had a little bit of experience
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  Speaker 3: in his life being a quarterback. But they've got to
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  Speaker 3: stop that. They are losing completions by having– primary receivers,
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  Speaker 3: like you want me to put my foot in the
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  Speaker 3: ground and throw it to that guy, then why do
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  Speaker 3: you have another receiver right in the, in the lane?
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  Speaker 3: Like if he, that other receiver might think it was
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  Speaker 3: intended him, he might jump up and, and tip it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Cause he said, Oh, you were throwing to me, but
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  Speaker 1: it was too high.
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  Speaker 3: No, I was throwing the guy behind you that now
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  Speaker 3: you can have that. If there's like a significant amount
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  Speaker 3: of space, like 10, 12 yards and you layer over
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  Speaker 3: the top. I'm not saying you can't ever throw over
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  Speaker 3: a receiver, but the way they, they have it, they
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  Speaker 3: have intermediate, uh, guys stacked under, uh, right on top
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  Speaker 3: of short guys. And, and, and so, uh, uh, yeah, that,
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  Speaker 3: that's a problem. There's, there's other stuff with, with the
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  Speaker 3: way the speed cuts this. I mean, there's, You've got
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  Speaker 3: Rashid Shaheed with all that speed. He has an in-breaking route.
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  Speaker 3: He takes an inside release. He gets inside leverage. I
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  Speaker 3: want him to just hit his outside leg and round
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  Speaker 3: that thing hard using his speed. Yes, his momentum will
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  Speaker 3: take him up the field, but that's a better way
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  Speaker 3: to create separation.
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  Speaker 1: He comes up.
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  Speaker 3: And, and he comes almost to a dead stop because
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  Speaker 3: he wants to square in. Well, now he loses the
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  Speaker 3: advantage of his speed. And so the, the DB was
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  Speaker 3: just right. I mean, like, like literally in his belt
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  Speaker 3: because of that technique. Like, I don't, I, I don't
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  Speaker 3: want that technique with him. And, and so we could
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  Speaker 3: talk more about it. Um, But, yeah, those are things
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  Speaker 3: that I'm going to be keeping an eye on, but
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  Speaker 3: I think you just have to withhold judgment for a
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  Speaker 3: couple weeks until we see more.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and I know he had his playbook taken away
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  Speaker 2: from him or a part of it when you have
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  Speaker 2: to go to your backup quarterback before he plays into
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  Speaker 2: the game. But is there an excuse for you have
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  Speaker 2: an effective running back who's averaging seven yards per carry
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  Speaker 2: at halftime and he only gets the ball a couple
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  Speaker 2: more times in the second half? And then, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I just think A.J. Barnard could potentially be really good. Um,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, very good football player in the national football league.
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  Speaker 2: I think this could be a breakout year for him.
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  Speaker 2: And he got targeted twice the entire game. I mean, if,
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  Speaker 2: if I've got a part of my playbook taken away
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  Speaker 2: from me, I, I don't think AJ Barner and, and, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Jadarian price should get lost.
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  Speaker 1: In the second half in that case. Yeah, I agree
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  Speaker 1: with you.
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  Speaker 3: I've made the same points last night in the post
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  Speaker 3: game show. Um, first of all, I think that, um,
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  Speaker 3: AJ Barner, he's been a guy that I've, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I could show you my text from a year ago
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  Speaker 3: with my friends a number of times in the second
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  Speaker 3: quarter or halftime.
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  Speaker 1: You know, my group thread, we all have our group
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  Speaker 1: threads that we're part of.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, you know, so I get high school
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  Speaker 3: and college buddies and, you know, and guys I played
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  Speaker 3: with and stuff, you know, hitting and, and, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: just like, throw it to 88. You know, we're, we're,
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  Speaker 3: we're in a rut, throw it to 88. He'll get
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  Speaker 3: us out of this rut. Cause he, it's like, he
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  Speaker 3: was always just like a, a slump buster.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And, and so I agree with you on, on him.
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  Speaker 3: I love his blocking, uh, the versatility. I think there's
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  Speaker 3: a swag to him that kind of, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: projects to the team. So I'm, I'm a big fan
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  Speaker 3: of AJ Barner. Uh, and then, um, Jadarian price. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to me, he like noticeably noticeably the, uh,
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  Speaker 3: the superior running back in that group and it's not close.
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  Speaker 3: And so to me, maybe there was a plan. to, uh,
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  Speaker 3: to work him in. But once you lose your quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, sorry, dude, we got to lean on you more, uh,
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  Speaker 3: in my opinion. And then, you know, receipt to eat.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just, I'm, I'm concerned that, you know, his, he
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  Speaker 3: wears Jersey number 22, which is very odd for a receiver. And,
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  Speaker 3: and it always reminds me, he had 22 yards per
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  Speaker 3: game receiving last year, uh.
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  Speaker 1: Which is not enough. And he had four last night.
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  Speaker 1: Four yards, one catch, four yards. And I am.
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  Speaker 3: Just, I mean, if you made me bet right now
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  Speaker 3: and said, hey, you have to bet on what kind
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  Speaker 3: of year Rashid Shaheed has, I'd say, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to bet. I want to see more. But if you said, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: that's not part of the game. You have to bet. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 3: if you're making me bet today, I'm forecasting disappointment. I just,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's hard. hard to take a guy to, uh,
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  Speaker 3: uh that that just doesn't have innate instincts as a
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  Speaker 3: receiver and just turn him into a receiver and then
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  Speaker 3: last night he wasn't even a good returner uh you
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  Speaker 3: know he had a fair catch where i i watched
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  Speaker 3: the all 22 i've been in a lot of special
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  Speaker 3: teams meeting as a former holder Uh, he, he called
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  Speaker 3: the fair cat the moment he caught that ball. He, he,
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  Speaker 3: there wasn't anybody with six yards, everything. He had great
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  Speaker 3: blocks around him. Like, I'm like, say what? And then
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  Speaker 3: there was another time that I thought, well, he, there's
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  Speaker 3: probably another couple of times where you could say it's
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  Speaker 3: a gray area and, and, and, and it would, you
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  Speaker 3: would call it relatively aggressive. Um, but far from. a
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  Speaker 3: rarity had he, you know, there's, there's probably three punt
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  Speaker 3: returns that he could have tried to get something out of. And,
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  Speaker 3: and for the 17 million, I don't know. I think
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  Speaker 3: there's a hole at number two receiver.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And we were thinking, you know, you're paying 17 million
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  Speaker 3: for see Shahid and, uh, it's got to get a
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  Speaker 3: lot better than it was last night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, they were just some things missing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Shahid, I thought was going to be used
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  Speaker 2: in that jet sweep kind of capacity. I thought double
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  Speaker 2: tight ends we're going to see a lot of. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even remember Elijah Arroyo doing anything last night.
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  Speaker 1: Did he even play? Well, he's my next guy. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: He's my next guy.
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  Speaker 3: There's two guys that I want to make sure we
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  Speaker 3: get in, and I know you're going to ask me
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  Speaker 3: about Price in greater detail, but between Shahid and Arroyo. Arroyo,
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  Speaker 3: to be a high second-round pick, and he played 11
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  Speaker 3: plays last night. Um, Saubert played 10, you know, this
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  Speaker 3: is not what we were expecting from a high second
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  Speaker 3: round pick. And, and this is my assessment of why
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  Speaker 3: he's not making an impact. He's faster than he is quick.
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  Speaker 3: If you go back to watch Miami and even the
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  Speaker 3: place that he's made, what have you, um, when he
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: gets going, he, he's a beautiful looking athlete. Um, like
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  Speaker 3: he covers ground like a wide receiver, but in short area, uh,
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: he's very choppy and clunky and he does, he is
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  Speaker 3: not quick. And we all understand the difference between fast
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  Speaker 3: and quick. And rarely do you see athletes that have
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  Speaker 3: this big a disparity between he's that fast for a man,
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  Speaker 3: his size, but he is not quick. And that's why
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  Speaker 3: he only played 11 snaps. His block, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: talked about his blocking in the first, um, preseason game
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  Speaker 3: and and uh so he he's buried a lot more
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  Speaker 3: than anybody would have hoped given that he was a
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  Speaker 3: high second round pick uh at a position and and
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  Speaker 3: the league is going to more two and three tight
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  Speaker 3: ends sets um yeah it's a disappointment yeah hopefully he
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  Speaker 3: can he can uh he can i don't say find
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  Speaker 3: quickness but he but his technique's got to improve as
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: well he kind of you know shoulders come back he
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  Speaker 3: chops his feet at the route and and right now
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  Speaker 3: that's just kind of you know, stalled in the water
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And we will get to price, but if we're going
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  Speaker 2: to be on the topic of disappointment, obviously a lot
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  Speaker 2: of penalties last night and Chaz Surratt supposed to be this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, veteran special teams guy that does the right
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  Speaker 2: things on the football field. That was as bad a
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  Speaker 2: penalty as you could have roughing the punter. It not
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  Speaker 2: only gave them five yards or 15 yards, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: 15 yards. And not only gave them a first down,
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  Speaker 2: a fresh set of downs, it put them immediately into
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  Speaker 2: field goal range. I mean, he just gave them three
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  Speaker 2: points last night.
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  Speaker 1: He gave him three points. You said it right.
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  Speaker 3: If you're going to have the punt block, you have
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  Speaker 3: to have the discernment. That's all I can say. You
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  Speaker 3: had the missed touchdown. You get the great play call
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  Speaker 3: to Cooper Cup, no defender in the area. You say,
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  Speaker 3: great on you, Brian Flory. If you've got a guy
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  Speaker 3: that wide open in the red zone– tip a cap
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  Speaker 3: to the offensive coordinator, but it's called back because of
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  Speaker 3: a legal motion. You saw Drew Locke, he canned the play.
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  Speaker 3: He's in shotgun. He says, can, can. They changed the play,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it had been. Now you got Helani. He's got
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  Speaker 3: a shift from right to left, but Drew Locke then
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  Speaker 3: points at Cooper Cup to start his either motion or shift.
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  Speaker 3: If it was a motion, then Drew Locke sent him
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  Speaker 3: too early. If it was a shift, then you can
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  Speaker 3: share the blame between Cooper Cup and Drew Locke in
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  Speaker 3: terms of, okay, don't snap the ball until he gets set.
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  Speaker 3: We have to be set for one second before we
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  Speaker 3: snap the ball or before we send anybody in motion.
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  Speaker 1: So that's just.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of the fallout from having a backup quarterback who
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have those reps.
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  Speaker 1: It was close.
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  Speaker 3: But he didn't quite get set on the back end
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  Speaker 3: if it was a shift, and he didn't allow Helani
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  Speaker 3: to get set before he went in motion if it
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  Speaker 3: was supposed to be in motion. So that's four points, right?
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  Speaker 1: So now we're up to seven points on penalties.
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  Speaker 3: And then he got second and inches after Drew Locke
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  Speaker 3: made that scramble down near the goal line, You had
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  Speaker 3: second and inches, and you get the delay of game.
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  Speaker 1: And to me, I would almost say Mike McDonald, help out.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: Well, Drew Locke, he had had to scramble. Maybe he's
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  Speaker 3: a little winded, what have you. Things take longer. And
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  Speaker 3: I would say the head coach has got to be near.
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  Speaker 3: I know it's down by the goal line, so he'd
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  Speaker 3: have had to sprint. But we've seen coaches do that. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I would like to see somehow that you
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: call a timeout, you're seeing that it's getting down, and
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  Speaker 3: you might have a delay a game there. You know,
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  Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's been around enough football that he can see
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  Speaker 3: with four or five seconds to go that it's not
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  Speaker 3: going to get snapped.
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  Speaker 1: Right, okay.
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  Speaker 3: And so, you know, if he had to run down,
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  Speaker 3: maybe that's a big ask, but Seattle's got to be better.
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  Speaker 3: Drew Locke's got to be better in that. perhaps Flory,
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  Speaker 3: and maybe even the head coach bailing out his offense?
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  Speaker 3: Because we've seen that before, and that would be the
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  Speaker 3: type of thing you would do as a head coach
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  Speaker 3: with a backup plan.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, lack of touches aside, since we acknowledge
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: we're a little disappointed with that number, first impression of
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  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price?
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  Speaker 3: Well, if you look at all of the runs that
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: he had with the exception of one, were designed to
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: go at least off-tackle. There was a lead to off-tackle,
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  Speaker 3: and then everything else was designed to go wide, the stretch.
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  Speaker 3: And he's got a burst. The very first play of
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: the game, the stretch play to the right, that was
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  Speaker 3: a wide zone that he saw, and he hit it
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  Speaker 3: on his fifth step, which is exactly when you're supposed
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  Speaker 3: to do it. He put his right foot in the
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: outside foot, and he went north, and he did it
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: with such acceleration. He saw the backside D gap. So
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: here he's trying to go to the D gap, ABCD
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: work from the, you know, guard tackles, um, tight end. Uh, and,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: and so the D gap is outside the tight end. He's,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: he's aiming to the D gap to his right. He
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: ends up cutting him back and he hits it on
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: the D gap to his left. And now the gaps
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: flow because the defense is flowing. So it's not quite
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: the zigzag that it might sound like, but, but, but his,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: he had, that was 13 yards. He had a stretch play,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: beautiful AJ Barner helping with Abe Lucas, just this great
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: tandem blocking, but there's a timing of it because, because
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Barner's going to hit and help Lucas, but then he
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: gets on the next guy. 31 who's number 31 for
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: the Patriots, but maybe you could, you can't block a
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: guy forever.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Nobody can block anybody forever.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: And so the time– because price can accelerate and it
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: can hit that, when you're running that wide zone– The
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: halfback is looking and saying, hey, do you have the
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: end man hooked? Because if you do, I'll go outside. Well,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: the timing of a guy who has that kind of acceleration.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: He says, hell yeah, it looks good to me. Green light, go.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Let me get outside.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: And so he gets 12 yards on that because he
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: has the speed to get there.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: A.J.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Barner would be like, damn, now I got this 31,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: but this is a hard block.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Giddy up, let's go. If it was a slower guy.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: So, you know, they had the on another wide play
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: where Jackson Smith and Digba from the slot just flat
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: out whiffed on the the flat defender.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: But he was so fast. He just beat him anyways.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Um, uh, uh, you know, and, and, and there was other,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: you know, I thought he finished, um, their, their safety
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: number four, a kid, uh, he was one of the
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: top safeties in the league last year. And, and, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: he finished on, on number four, hard, uh, you know,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: move the pile two and a half yards. The only
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: play they ran inside was the second run for him
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: was a duo, which is you're trying to get double teams.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: It's a strong side running play. And based on. on
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: how the middle linebacker is, you have the option to bounce. Well,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: he bounced it and Carlton Davis made a hell of
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: a play. The corner just, that's the weakness of the defenses.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: If the corner can't tackle, well, the number seven can't
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: for the Patriots. And he came up and smacked him.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: So that was no gain. But I can't really criticize
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: the decision because there wasn't much there. And the duo
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: is designed to bounce when there isn't something there. You're
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: just supposed to beat the running, the cornerback. But the
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: way Carlton Davis read it so fast, Uh, you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Barry Sanders wasn't going to beat him. But everything else
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: was outside run. So I don't know if he's a
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: complete back, but his burst and his acceleration is, I
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: don't know, Chuck, to your naked eye, did you just
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: see something entirely different than we saw? Certainly from the
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: guys that are on the roster at And as the
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: team's constituted, he's your guy.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: He's the dude with the juice.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Right? Did you see that? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, Walker had it, but compared to his current
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: running back room, he's the only guy with juice.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. And our last, I don't have a
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: lot of time here.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Okay. Less than a minute, just your thoughts.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: As you walk away from this game last night about
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Darnold lock quarterback situation in a minute, your best minute
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: on this.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Well, if Darnold's healthy, he's the quarterback. Yeah, of course. No, right. Right.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Um, you know, even, even Darnold's completion was a high
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: degree of difficulty yesterday. The play action put his back
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: from the ground, no hitch step and, and hit JSN
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: in between the flat and the mid mid defense. I mean, that, that,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: that is a lot harder than it looks. Uh, when
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: you just have your back turned and you just put
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: your foot down and then boom, and whip it into
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: that tight little window. Hips, there's some lingering things there.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: We talked about it's probably fine, but it's the type
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: of joint that could be a problem. And if Locke
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: has to play for a while, I'll just say this.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: He has starter traits. His physical attribute, there's nothing.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: If you take.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Probably the 20 best players um, passes from training camp,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: it's every bit as likely the drew lock had 10
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: of them and Sam Darnold had to, you know, maybe
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Milrow had one or two, but my point now, Sam
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Darnold will make fewer mistakes and he'll do it more consistently,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: but the high end drew lock, uh, you know, has
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: a skillset and, and he, he put it all on
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: display last night. His arm is his quickness. In the
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: pocket is quick release. His stature to stand in the
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: pocket and not have to move sometime and just stare
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: down the barrel. So it was a really good night
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: for him. But Sam Darnold's another cut of steak.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Awesome.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: That was outstanding. Good stuff. Thank you, sir. We appreciate it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: We'll do it longer the next time we get together.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I love it. Appreciate the nice words. Hammer down.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Go Hawks.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Our QB1, Hugh Millen, wrapping up Monday Morning Quarterback on
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: a Thursday right here on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: And guess who's going to join us next for his
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: first performance of 2026 on our airwaves? Our friend, NFL
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: insider Michael Sando on KJR.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is a rare treat.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Not only do we get to do a post-game wrap
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: on a Thursday morning with Hugh Millen doing Monday Morning
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Quarterback on a Thursday that we just wrapped up, this
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: aligns perfectly with our NFL insider Mike Sando making his
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: debut on our show thanks to Hunt Services. Again for 2026,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: joining us now is the great Mike Sando.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Hello, sir.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Happy football season to you.
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: Happy football season indeed. I wasn't very happy at halftime
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: of the game last night, but maybe a little better now.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Let me get your immediate reaction to this. Adam Schefter
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: reporting just now. Seahawks quarterback Sam Darnold underwent an MRI
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: on his hip this morning. The team doctors still are
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: reviewing to determine how much time he will miss. It
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: is expected to be some time, but for now the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: team believes it, as one source described, they dodged a bullet.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Your reaction to that?
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I felt that last night. They dodged a bullet.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: There could be other bullets. They may not be as
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: damaging of bullets as that first one. I think they
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: were very concerned initially. There's a fracture in there, which
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: could call into question his season and even beyond. So
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: that part seems like, I would say confidently, there's not
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: some obvious fracture. But there could be a bruise in there,
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: you know, as the hip gets... Compressed.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: A tissue issue.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: Tissue issues, the labrum and all that type of stuff,
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: which could take a significant amount of time to heal.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: I would be shocked if he doesn't go on some
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: kind of an injured reserve list. I think they'll miss
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: him for multiple games. And if you had to pick
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: an over and under. Of how many games? I mean,
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: is it five or six, something like that maybe? I
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: think they could live with that, and they could probably
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: weather that, whether or not they, you know, maybe they
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: bring in a Jimmy Garoppolo or somebody like that who
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: knows the system and just have someone here to give them,
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: you know, another option. But I think they'll go ahead
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: with Drew Locke, try to win with defense, and clean
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: up a lot of those things last night that I
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: think were directly tied to Drew Locke having to go
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: in there without, you can't be ready, you know, and
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: he's got about a 25 page wristband thing, you know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: that he's trying to sort through and they're getting cadence
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: related penalties and delay of games and two guys movings.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: I think they can clean a lot of that stuff up,
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: which can make them, you know, win some games with
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: the backup quarterback.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: You are a professional journalism. I think you are a
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: practical man. I think you are an intelligent man. And
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I know that you are a learned man. especially when
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: it comes to the National Football League. But you did
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: all this work in the offseason to get yourself ready
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: for the National Football League campaign. And in one game,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: would your opinion have changed about the Seahawks and Patriots
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: after what you saw last night?
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: Well, here's the opinions that changed for me. I thought
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: Seattle's secondary was going to be somewhat problematic with the
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: moving parts. And obviously, they've been tipping their hand by
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: going after you know, they've been pulling cornerbacks out of
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: jail practically, right, to get them in there and trading
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: for guys you've never heard of. And then we know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: you know, Nick and Manwari is such a big part
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: of their versatility on defense. If you'd have told me
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: they were going to pick off Drake May three times
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: and make the New England passing game look like a
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: high school operation, I would have been surprised. So that
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: was very encouraging to me from a defensive standpoint that
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: they were able to do that under these circumstances. You know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: beyond that, the only thing is, you know, I think
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: if Seattle doesn't have Sam Darnold, I think it's going
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: to be a lot harder to, you know, over the
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: course of a whole year or a playoff run to
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: get where they want to go. But that's true with
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: most teams and Seattle's probably in better position. There's definitely
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: a better position than maybe any other team to win
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: with its backup quarterback based on how good the defense
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: is and maybe based on how good Drew Locke is
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: compared to so many other backups.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Should Patriot fans be questioning whether or not they have
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: a great or even good quarterback now?
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they should be listening to Mike Sando on the
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: Boston media tour last week when they were trying to
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: tell me that, you know, MVP season and all this.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: And I said, you know, that's not the conversations I've
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: had with, you know, talking to the 50 coaches and
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: executives for quarterback tiers. They like me. They don't love them.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: You know, and they don't see him as somebody who's
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: going to go into that top tier. They see him
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: as someone with the good stuff around him, you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: good stuff around him that can be, you know, maybe
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: solid in that second tier. He didn't look that good
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: last night, and it's funny. I talked to a real
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: veteran coach today who said, everyone's in a rush to
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: anoint these guys. Give them 30 games, 40 games, 50 games,
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: then let's decide. To me, if you need that long
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: to decide, he's probably not going to be the top guy.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Mike Sando was with us. Our NFL Insider's first visit
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: with us from the Athletic for this official football season.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: How great is it just to have football back, huh?
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: I think it's great. And I can't, you know, even
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: though we kind of, Oh my gosh, the league's taking
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: over everything pretty soon. There's going to be a game
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: every day of the week. Uh, yeah, there's a game tonight.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: I can't wait to watch it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: What do you think?
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: What do you think of the matchup tonight?
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: I love it because I think the Rams are in
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: this enviable, but an unenviable position to where the expectations
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: are just too high, right? There's no way that Aaron
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: Donald's going to be what they hope he's going to be.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: He's not even playing tonight. Uh, They can't be as
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: good as they're supposed to be. And so they play
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: the 49ers. It's been a tough matchup for them in
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: the division. The 49ers have kind of had their number
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: a little bit more than other teams. What if the
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: 49ers win the game? It could totally happen. So I
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: think it's.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Fascinating.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: I can't wait to watch it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: This injury thing. I mean, do you pay it any attention,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: this substation or whatever it is that's causing the 49ers
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: to be more injured than every other team in the NFL?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: It seems on a, on an annual basis.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: I don't buy the substation thing. I think it's kind
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: of more of a funny thing. I love there's a
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: substation Twitter account that responds to all these things in
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: a very funny way. I love those accounts. Like there's
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: an account of a moose who weighs in whenever a
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: moose is in the media. I love all that stuff. Uh, uh,
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: so to me though, they have, you know, they've had
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: some older players, they they've signed older injury prone guys
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: and they play a style of ball and offense where
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: kind of the receivers are almost kind of like positionalist
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: guys that they take. Remember Debo Samuel, he would take
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: hits like he's a running back. You know what I mean?
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: They just, the way they play is a lot of
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: it to me with older guys too.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: They play hard.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: No doubt about it. I, saw that you dabbled, a
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: recent article more than dabbled, you sunk your teeth into
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: special teams and whether or not the 49ers and Rams
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: took seriously the special teams advantage that the Seahawks seem
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: to have developed over them.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: What did you come up with?
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: So it's actually the Packers and the Rams were the
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: teams in the same bucket to me because in the
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: last five years, they've both had MVP quarterbacks. You think
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: of Aaron Rodgers in 2021, they're at home playoffs. They're
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: going to go to the Superbowl that year, had a
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: really good team. They lose at home to the 49ers,
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: giving a blocked punch for a touchdown. And they had
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: one of their field goals blocked. They've had four special
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: teams coaches, even under the floor. And we go back
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: to Before LeFleur, remember the championship game against Seattle, they
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: pick off Russell Wilson four times, but they're giving up
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: a fake field goal touchdown. They had an onside kick recovery.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: There's always something. And so what happens last year with
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: the Rams? MVP quarterback. They're up 30 to 14 on
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: Seattle week 16, about to get a home field advantage
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: and sail all the way to the Super Bowl. They
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: give up a punt return touchdown. So they have to
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: come to Seattle for the championship game. They muff a punt.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: Seattle gets a touchdown in the next play to go
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: up by 11 points. I mean, these are the things
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: no one's talking about offseason, the huge advantages. So I
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: thought it was totally fitting that the Rams trade for
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: Miles Garrett, the Seahawks are trading for Irv Charles, a gunner,
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: a stud gunner who's injured right now. But so the
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: question I really had going into the offseason was, McVay's
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: had a great run, but he's had six special teams coaches.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: The Packers and the 49ers, the Packers and the Rams–
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: win 65% of their games, they've had 10 special teams
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: coaches under their current head coaches. Like there's something systemic
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: here about this third phase of the game that no
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: one talks about that is derailing legacies of Aaron Rodgers,
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: you know, being a multi-Super Bowl winner. Or even last year,
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: Stafford probably would have gotten the Hall of Fame if
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: they won the Super Bowl. So I really did sink
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: my teeth into it. And today's story is kind of
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: a product of that.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Well, check it out.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Of course, you can follow Mike at SandoNFL.com. uh, on, uh,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: X and that'll lead you to the athletic and you
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: can follow them every single day, every second of every
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: single day. It's kind of creepy when you think about it. Um,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: but that is available to you.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Um, okay. Um, so this.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Weekend we will have information now on all 32 NFL
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: teams for 2026. Um, what is your greatest curiosity heading
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: into this football season?
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm really interested in, in, I think the chargers,
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: you know, have been one of those teams that Hey,
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: they got Jim Harbaugh, but still something's not quite right
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: at these injuries. They had Mike McDaniel to the mix
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: with Justin Herbert and Harbaugh. Wouldn't you love to fly
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: on the wall during a meeting between Harbaugh and Mike McDaniel?
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: By the way, if you're out there, I mentioned having
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: fun on Twitter. There's a guy by the name of
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: Joey Molinaro. Yes, I've seen this.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: Joey Molinaro is a comedian and impersonator, and he films, great, uh,
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: interviews where he's the guy in both. He's, he's the guy,
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: he does both sides of the character. So he's got
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: like Mike McDaniel with those cool, you know, uh, I'm
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: in a rock band glasses and the Capri pants and
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: all that. And then Harbaugh, he does Harbaugh and they're,
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: they have this awkward stilted conversation. That's just gold. I
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: love that because there's pressure there a little bit to win.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: They've got the good quarterback, but they're in a tough
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: division and, you know, what's going to happen? Like, are
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: they going to, are they going to miss the playoffs
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: this year? Is Herbert finally going to look like a
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: MVP or, you know, I think that's, that's fun to me.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to close with this and we're going
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: to laugh about this a little bit.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I suppose.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Do you know who I want to see the Seahawks?
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: If they're going to miss Sam for a few weeks,
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  Speaker 2: who I want them to sign?
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: Jimmy G.
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  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Trent Dilfer.
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: Trent Dilfer is like 50 years old. What are you
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: talking about?
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I want Mike. I want the ultimate.
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  Speaker 2: Trump card over Rex Ryan for Mike McDonald that he's
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: going to win with Trent Dilfer on this team.
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: Oh, that would be great. Well, I think you put
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: Trent in.
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  Speaker 1: The shotgun formation. 54-year-old Trent Dilfer.
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  Speaker 6: I put him in the shotgun formation with just inside handoffs.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: I know that his feet are fast enough to do that.
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: And it's funny you say that because Trent is very–
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: I covered him when he was with the Seahawks, and
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: so I know him really well. I worked with him
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  Speaker 6: at ESPN. But Trent said, I could have stayed in
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: the league as a backup forever if I never had
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: to get in the game. He finally had to get
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: in the game, and his feet were so slow that
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: I think he got sacked during his drop back. He's
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: on his third step, and he's getting sacked. Your legs
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: run out. Shotgun formation, we can do it. They could
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: have probably won last night doing that.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: That's the ultimate test on how great your defense is.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: If you can win a Super Bowl with Trent Dilford now,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: 54 years old, age 50.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly. He's probably underrated back then.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: He'd be really underrated now.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: All right, man.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Hey, great to have you with us again this season.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Enjoy tonight. We'll talk to you next week.
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: Okay, we'll see you.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: All right, Mike Sando, our NFL insider from The Athletic,
• 34:58
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  Speaker 2: So how much fun did you have at tolela resort
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: casino last night.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Oh it's a great time great time we had a
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: couple hundred people out there and weather weather was uh
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  Speaker 4: warmer than i thought it was going to be i
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  Speaker 4: thought it was like 70 it was 80 when i
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: got there just about yeah it was lovely it was
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  Speaker 4: beautiful perfect weather and uh Good crowd.
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  Speaker 5: They were interactive. They were nice. I met Jason, listener Jason.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: He was super nice.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: What up, Jason?
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what up, Jason?
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: And Carol and Shirley, they're more KZOK listeners, but I
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: tried to get them to come over here.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: So in case they're listening, good morning, Carol and Shirley.
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  Speaker 6: Hi, Carol.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Shirley.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right?
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: She'll grow on you, I promise.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: And I also got proof.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: That my superstitions are still alive and well.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Just your one last thing. Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we were not doing well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: And I had gone into the casino to play slots
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  Speaker 4: for a couple minutes before I had to be at
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: the event. And so I put $ 20 in, and I
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: was down to $ 10, and I had to go help
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Rich Strauss with something.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: He's helpless. Yeah, right?
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: So I took my ticket, and I was like, I'll
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: come back later, and I'll finish this out. See what
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: happens before I leave.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: And at halftime, we did some giveaways, and I thought
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: to myself, I wonder if I need to go finish
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: that ticket. Like, I need to just go walk away
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: for a few minutes and have a couple minutes. And
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: I didn't go do it because I ran out of time.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: And then the Patriots started, or then we had the
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: big hit to start the second half and it looked good,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: but then the Patriots got the ball, and I thought,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: oh my gosh, what is happening?
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: I need to take a walk.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go finish this ticket that's been hanging out,
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: just looming over me. And I'm going to see if
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks can do something. So I start walking out
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: of the amphitheater. And we get the Nehemiah Pritchett interception.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: That's what did it.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: And I turned around and I looked at Evan, who
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: is at Tulalip Resort Casino. And I said, I still
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: have to go, right? I've got to keep going. I
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: said I was going. I can't come back. He's like, yeah,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: you've got to go. You've got to go.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: So I go into the casino. I... I always go
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: to whatever machine speaks to me. Well, the machine that
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: was speaking to me had happened to have a perfect
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: angle of the bar, which I didn't even, I saw
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: it from the doorway. I didn't even see that it
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: had an angle of the TVs in the bar. So
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: I go sit down at the machine. I put my
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: ticket in and I kid you not, the Seahawks scored
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: a touchdown as the game starts.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Going ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
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  Speaker 5: I get a free.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Games and get to, and so I won 75 bucks,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: went back out and Seahawks.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Won the game.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Seahawks, turn the game around. You won $ 75.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, I guess.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: I only won $ 45 because I have to think of
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: the money.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: I put in.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: And the biggest prize of all, you figured out that
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: your powers are legitimate.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: Like, real strong.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're welcome. And now you're going to use
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: them to do good.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: Only for good.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to monitor that. Yeah. And make sure.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: And if it means I've got to win money at casinos,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: people better start giving me money to go to the casino. Yeah.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll never doubt them again then. I'm convinced. Yeah, right?
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's pretty strong.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: Proof.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Proof positive.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: That's pretty strong. But yes, everything was great at Tulalip
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Resort Casino. The crowd was awesome. The people there are awesome.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: They've got a big concert there tonight, Anthony Hamilton. So
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: they were all set up for that, which is why
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: they got to do this. It worked out perfectly and
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: it was great. Yeah.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: By the way, I have an Aunt Carol and I
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: have an Aunt Shirley.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: Oh, maybe it was them.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: It might have been.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: And wouldn't it be just like them to have moved
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: here in secret, never told me, and they don't even
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: do me the courtesy.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Of listening to my show.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: It is just like them. That makes a lot of
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: sense now. Carol used to work at the Hostess Store
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: in Alton, Illinois.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. You want to talk about.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: She'd hook you up.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: And I was going to say some sweet treats.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: She would hook you up.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: Sweet treats.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: If you stopped by to say hi to Aunt Carol
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: at the hostess store.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: All right. And then the other one makes the best stuffing, surely,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: in the history of the planet.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Hostess and stuffing.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: What more could you ask for? I know.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe a hello. Maybe a how you doing? Maybe.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: They said hi to me. They were super to me.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: All right, that'll do it for us today. I was
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: going to mention Drew Locke, but we'll talk a lot
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: about him tomorrow.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: A Locke about him.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Coming up next, Greg Bell. He'll probably talk a Locke
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: about him, too. And Jessamyn McIntyre. And she just talks
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: a Locke. I mean, there's just no getting around it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: It's just talk, talk, talk, talk. They're coming your way next.
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