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The Late Debate | 3 March · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait wait, welcome the Late Tour.
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  Speaker 2: Play thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. I'm
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  Speaker 2: James Macpherson with my good friends Caleb Bond. How are you, Kaylin,
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  Speaker 2: I'm very well, very good and of course freyer Leitch, you're.
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  Speaker 3: Ready to go.
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  Speaker 4: I am ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: All right, We've got a lot to talk about tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Here is what's coming up. Andrew Hasty says the rules based.
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  Speaker 3: Order is dead.
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  Speaker 2: But was it ever really alive? And if it was,
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  Speaker 2: did Donald Trump kill it? Or was it suffocated by
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  Speaker 2: the useless United Nations. A Sydney banker objects to a
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  Speaker 2: one point seven billion dollar wind farm because it would
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  Speaker 2: produce psychological harm and spiritual distress. It's the same argument
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  Speaker 2: that was used to stop a coal mine, so maybe
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  Speaker 2: there's a chance. And actor Jim Carey is famous for
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  Speaker 2: having many faces, but his latest face is so bizarre.
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  Speaker 2: People are insisting it was a clone, receiving an award
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  Speaker 2: on his behalf. We'll get to all of that shortly,
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  Speaker 2: but first to Sydney. Mayor has backed Muslims holding memorial
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  Speaker 2: services for the martyrd Ayatola, arguing it's a free country.
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  Speaker 2: The irony is thick with this one Liverpool Mayor, Ned Manoon,
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  Speaker 2: wants to leverage our freedoms to celebrate a radical Islamist
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  Speaker 2: whose entire life was spent denying people their freedom, and
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  Speaker 2: he takes advantage of our country that gave people refuge
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  Speaker 2: from the Iatola to celebrate the Iatola. Ned Manoon, who
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  Speaker 2: is a liberal mayor, told journalists I don't think it's
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  Speaker 2: anyone's job to say who can mourn. The Iatola was
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  Speaker 2: a religious leader for tens of millions of people all
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  Speaker 2: around the world. If they have broken a law, please
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  Speaker 2: tell me which one, well calebin Frewer would have thought
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  Speaker 2: support for a terrorist might be one of them. That's
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  Speaker 2: just off the top of my head. And Manoon is
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  Speaker 2: right that politicians can't tell people who they can and
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  Speaker 2: can't mourn, but that doesn't mean they have to provide
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  Speaker 2: ratepayer owned facilities for the morning, as the Liverpool Council
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  Speaker 2: is doing.
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  Speaker 3: Manoon then played the victim card.
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  Speaker 2: He said Chris Mins has a fetish with attacking the
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  Speaker 2: Islamic community. He did not apologize for one of his
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  Speaker 2: police officers grabbing and throwing people praying on the ground
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  Speaker 2: the town hall protest, and that is what I think
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  Speaker 2: is atrocious.
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  Speaker 3: What that has to do with Liverpool.
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  Speaker 2: Council's decision to provide facilities for people to linize the
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  Speaker 2: leader of a nation that staged terrort tacks in this
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  Speaker 2: country is beyond me. But the mayor continued, there are
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  Speaker 2: millions of Iranian Australians who are in severe shock and
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  Speaker 2: who are mourning, and there are also millions of Iranian
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  Speaker 2: Australians celebrating. That's the nature of free society.
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  Speaker 3: Small point.
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  Speaker 2: How many millions of Iranians, Tesma Manon believe are in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: How did this guy get endorsed by the Liberal Party?
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm not sure, and I'm also not sure how
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  Speaker 4: long he's held these views for I've come across him
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  Speaker 4: in my time, and the Liberal Party's always been very
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  Speaker 4: polite to me, very friendly in fact. But the fact
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  Speaker 4: that he does hold these views and is seemingly defending
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  Speaker 4: people who are mourning a murderous dictator just seems completely
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  Speaker 4: at odds, not only with our values as a country,
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  Speaker 4: but also the Liberal Party's values. He should be standing
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  Speaker 4: up for our national security, for our way of life,
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  Speaker 4: for protecting what makes Australia great, and that is that Frankly,
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  Speaker 4: we shouldn't be letting in people who lionize Islamic dictators.
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  Speaker 1: And also, I've just looked this number up. He said,
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  Speaker 1: there are millions of Australia, millions of Iranians in Australia
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  Speaker 1: who are mourning the Ayah toler and millions of Iranians
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  Speaker 1: who are celebrating. According to the twenty twenty one census,
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  Speaker 1: there were thirty seven thousand men from Iran and thirty
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  Speaker 1: three thousand women from Iran, so there are not millions
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  Speaker 1: on either side celebrating, So you know, you want to
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  Speaker 1: get your numbers straight if that's what you're saying. Clearly,
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  Speaker 1: what he is doing here is seemingly putting faith above
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the country and one's obligations as a
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  Speaker 1: leader in this country. And he could legitimately say that
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  Speaker 1: in Australia you have the right to mourn the death
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  Speaker 1: of the Ayatoller, but I don't think that's appropriate and
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  Speaker 1: it's not the kind of behavior Iron Dorsal would like
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  Speaker 1: to see in my country. If the point he's simply
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  Speaker 1: making is about freedom, he could well have said that
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  Speaker 1: and not many people would have batted an eyelid. But
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  Speaker 1: he has instead gone on the attack as you said,
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  Speaker 1: and suggested that the Premier of New South Wales, Chrismans,
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  Speaker 1: has a fetish for going after the Islamic community, which
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  Speaker 1: is clearly not true. Like that is just a total fabrication.
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  Speaker 1: The Premier Chris Mins, is standing up for the values
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  Speaker 1: of the country in which we live as the leader
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  Speaker 1: of a state that has just seen the worst terror
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  Speaker 1: attack allegedly committed by Islamists in this country's history. There
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  Speaker 1: is no reason to go on the attack in the
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  Speaker 1: way he did and say what he said in the
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  Speaker 1: way he said it unless you are lending some sort
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  Speaker 1: of legitimacy to what people are doing in mourning the Ayatoller.
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  Speaker 1: You can make the point about people are free to
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  Speaker 1: do so, but he has basically legitimized the morning of
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  Speaker 1: the article.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he certainly has, because he described the Ayatolla as
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  Speaker 2: quote a site scholar who effectively held the rank of
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  Speaker 2: a pope. That was his description of the man who
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  Speaker 2: organized a web of terror networks right around the world,
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  Speaker 2: including one that launched attacks on Australian soil.
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  Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of unbelievable, a Islamic center in Banksia not far
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  Speaker 2: from Liverpool posted a video to their social media on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: lionizing terror groups like Hezbollah and featuring Islamic terrorists overlooking Jerusalem.
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  Speaker 2: The video says that Muslims must unite because victory is close.
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  Speaker 2: Have a look at this posted as I said by
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  Speaker 2: a Sydney Islamic.
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  Speaker 3: Center Plorna A Mohammade.
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  Speaker 2: So explain to me how that is not support for terrorism.
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  Speaker 1: The time has come to unite for what? What?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 1: What is the suggestion that that they are uniting for
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  Speaker 1: a terror regime for a terrorist like Come on, this
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  Speaker 1: is this is going on in Australia. And while this
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  Speaker 1: is going on, you have, as we were just talking
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  Speaker 1: about a liberal mayor defending public acts of mourning for
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  Speaker 1: the I toler. I mean, has ned Manoon not looked
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  Speaker 1: at videos like that and gone, oh, hang on, that's
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  Speaker 1: pause for thought. Maybe I shouldn't be publicly saying that
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  Speaker 1: this is all fine and the premiere has a fetish
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  Speaker 1: for going after Muslims like that. That is what we
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  Speaker 1: are facing. And there are people in this country in ding,
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  Speaker 1: some talking to the media with prominent voices saying that
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  Speaker 1: that is okay. I just I can't believe it well.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you ask, what are they wanting us, What
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  Speaker 4: are they wanting Muslims to unite for? It's clearly the
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  Speaker 4: destruction of Israel, the Little Satan, and ultimately the destruction
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  Speaker 4: of the United States and the Western world. But it's
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  Speaker 4: deeply concerning how many people in Australia hold these views.
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  Speaker 4: How many, even if it's just a couple thousand. We
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  Speaker 4: saw what two deranged Islamists allegedly did at Bondi, how
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  Speaker 4: much more damage could be done to our country? And
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  Speaker 4: if you're producing videos like that, I would also question
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  Speaker 4: whether that actually crosses the line into some sort of
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  Speaker 4: incitement to violence. When you've got images of what looks
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  Speaker 4: like a Hamas or hesbla terrorist and then blowing up cities,
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  Speaker 4: and then you're calling on apparently Muslims in Australia to
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  Speaker 4: unite around that vision of blowing places up. Is that
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  Speaker 4: not incitements of islands?
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  Speaker 1: It is incredibly concerning, And of course we've also found
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  Speaker 1: out today in amongst all these groups and mosques that
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  Speaker 1: have been holding these events to mourn the death of
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  Speaker 1: the Aya toll Or, some of them have been receiving
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  Speaker 1: public funding. He was the Foreign Minister Penny Wong on
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  Speaker 1: all of this today, Can I.
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  Speaker 5: Some really disappointed that people would want to do that.
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  Speaker 5: This is a man who's led a regime which is
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  Speaker 5: caused death in many parts of the world, destruction. It
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  Speaker 5: is a regime that engineered or was corrected with related
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  Speaker 5: to attacks on Australian soil, and a regime that killed
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  Speaker 5: its own citizens.
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  Speaker 1: So will you withdraw the funding?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I wasn't aware of the funding till it became
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  Speaker 5: public today and I'm sure that the relevant minister will
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  Speaker 5: be looking out why we're at this, but the.
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  Speaker 1: As well they should be. And by the way, that
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  Speaker 1: was liberal me and need Mini sorry, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: mean Labor Foreign Minister Penny Wong. I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 1: when you've got the Labor Foreign Minister talking little stronger
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  Speaker 1: than a liberal, you know there are problems while we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about all of this. Iran or the I should say,
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  Speaker 1: their soccer players are currently in Australia at the moment
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  Speaker 1: on the Gold Coast to participate in the Asia Cup,
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  Speaker 1: and last night was the opening match of the women's competition,
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  Speaker 1: which was Iran versus South Africa, and the Iranian women
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  Speaker 1: decided not to sing their national anthem. Take a look,
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  Speaker 1: and I say, good on them, seriously, good on them. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this is what we need to remember. Amongst all these
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  Speaker 1: people who want to mourn the Ayatoler, these are women
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  Speaker 1: who've lived under the regime that the Ayatoller presided over.
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  Speaker 1: They know what happens to women in Iran, and for them,
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  Speaker 1: presumably this is a good moment. And there they are
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  Speaker 1: on the world's stage age saying we're not participating in this.
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  Speaker 2: I heard people criticizing them, can you believe it or not,
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  Speaker 2: saying well, why didn't you go the whole hog and
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  Speaker 2: remove your head scarves? And I think, well, probably because
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  Speaker 2: they've got family in Iran exactly, and they need to
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  Speaker 2: be very careful to make sure they don't jeopardize them.
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  Speaker 2: How stupid do they make Western sports people who do
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  Speaker 2: you remember took a knee for George Floyd and so
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  Speaker 2: on and so forth. I mean, that's a real protest
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  Speaker 2: over real human rights abuses, where they are really risking
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  Speaker 2: their own welfare and their families. Compared to many of
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  Speaker 2: the sports stars that we would be familiar with, who
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  Speaker 2: have made virtue signaling an art form for all manner
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  Speaker 2: of trivial causes.
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  Speaker 4: Yet so much of the left still won't support them.
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  Speaker 4: You would think that this would be certain obvious. Bipart
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  Speaker 4: is an issue we could all get around. You don't
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  Speaker 4: even have to support Iran or the people of Iran
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  Speaker 4: because they're being oppressed by an Islamic dictatorship. You could
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  Speaker 4: also support them because hey, women aren't being treated very well.
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  Speaker 4: Your LGBT allies are not being treated very well. In fact,
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  Speaker 4: anyone who criticizes the regime is at risk of being imprisoned,
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  Speaker 4: tortured and executed. Yet the left is remarkably silent.
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  Speaker 1: I think by the way, I said South Africa before
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  Speaker 1: it was South Korea. I may have just corrected myself
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  Speaker 1: for something I didn't get wrong, but I think I
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  Speaker 1: said South Africa. But you're right, I mean. And it's
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  Speaker 1: so annoying seeing how the lift carries on about all
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  Speaker 1: of these things, and they all bit high and martin
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  Speaker 1: indignant about it, which you can when you live in
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  Speaker 1: a western country where you don't have to worry about
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  Speaker 1: your own freedoms. And you know, if you love the
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  Speaker 1: eye Tola that much and what he stood for, why
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  Speaker 1: don't you bugger off to somewhere that they live like that,
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  Speaker 1: why do you choose to live in Australia.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And the reality is most Iranians do not support
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  Speaker 4: the regime. The Iranian regime claims that ninety nine point
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  Speaker 4: five percent of Iranians and Muslim, but it's actually not
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  Speaker 4: true in real surveys, it's more like forty percent. So
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  Speaker 4: half the population are even identifying as Shia Muslims. The
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  Speaker 4: others are a whole range of religions, and there's been
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  Speaker 4: a massive outburst of Christian conversions in Iran. So this
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  Speaker 4: is not a country or a people that wants to
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  Speaker 4: be ruled by a hardline Islamic dictatorship. And so when
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  Speaker 4: you see Australians and particularly people like ned Manoon who've
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  Speaker 4: benefited from all of what the West has offered, essentially
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  Speaker 4: defending the Iranian regime, it's just disgusting. But let's move
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  Speaker 4: on now. And someone else who has now broken their
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  Speaker 4: silence after staying out of the media really for the
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  Speaker 4: last couple of days is jd Vance, Vice President of
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  Speaker 4: the United States. Here he was saying that Trump has
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  Speaker 4: a clear objective and this will not be a very
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  Speaker 4: long war.
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  Speaker 6: There's just no way that Donald Trump is going to
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  Speaker 6: allow this country to get into a multi year conflict
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  Speaker 6: with no clear end in sight and no clear objective.
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  Speaker 6: What is different about President Trump, and it's frankly different
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  Speaker 6: about both Republicans and Democrats of the past, is that
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  Speaker 6: he's not going to let his country go to war
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  Speaker 6: unless there's a clearly defined objective. He's defined that objective
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  Speaker 6: as a Ran cannot have a nuclear weapon and has
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  Speaker 6: to commit long term to never trying to rebuild the
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  Speaker 6: nuclear capability.
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  Speaker 4: So why is this in the US's interest to go
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  Speaker 4: to war with Iran? Well, because they were clearly trying
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  Speaker 4: to develop nuclear weapons. He was whitcof saying much the
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  Speaker 4: same thing.
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  Speaker 7: In that first meeting. Both the Iranian negotiators said to
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  Speaker 7: us directly, with no shame, that they controlled four hundred
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  Speaker 7: and sixty kilograms of sixty percent and they're aware that
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  Speaker 7: that could make eleven nuclear bombs. And that was the
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  Speaker 7: beginning of the negotiating stance. So that's they were proud
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  Speaker 7: of it. They were proud that they had evaded all
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  Speaker 7: sorts of oversight protocols to get to a place where
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  Speaker 7: they could deliver eleven nuclear bombs.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the thing. Iran has never been coy about
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  Speaker 4: their objectives. They've essentially been trying to wage war against
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  Speaker 4: the United States in one way or another for the
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  Speaker 4: last forty seven years, since the Iranian Revolution in nineteen
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  Speaker 4: seventy nine. So I don't know you've seen elements of
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  Speaker 4: the Magabase get angry say this is a RAQ two
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  Speaker 4: point zero. It's just not. This is very targeted, very surgical,
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  Speaker 4: and that's far has been very successful.
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  Speaker 2: The other interesting thing about the way Donald Trump conducts
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  Speaker 2: himself is he likes to keep everybody guessing, which is
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  Speaker 2: a tactic and a very good one because if your
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  Speaker 2: enemies don't know what you're going to do, then they
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  Speaker 2: have to prepare for every eventuality, always fearing that you
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  Speaker 2: may just go a little crazy, even boots on the ground,
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  Speaker 2: which is I would have thought for the Magabase a
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  Speaker 2: big no no, and Trump's always said that will not happen.
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  Speaker 2: But just today he slightly changed his language, saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: we don't rule anything out. Marco Rubio said much the
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  Speaker 2: same thing. I got to emphasize they were not suggesting
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  Speaker 2: there'd be boots on the ground. They just weren't quite
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  Speaker 2: so adamant that there will never be boots on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Trump, He's done this with Russia, he's
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  Speaker 2: done this with North Korea, now he's doing it with
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  Speaker 2: the Iranians. He keeps options open, so they're not exactly
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  Speaker 2: sure which way he will go. It's the only way
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  Speaker 2: I would suggest to treat your enemies. But it frustrates
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  Speaker 2: those who demand that Trump let everybody know up front
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  Speaker 2: exactly what he's going to do.
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  Speaker 1: And that sort of always been the Trump way, right,
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  Speaker 1: And the element of unpredictability is his great advantage, and
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  Speaker 1: people sort of grudgingly respect him for that because they're like,
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  Speaker 1: this guy's crackers enough that he could sort of do
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  Speaker 1: anything at a moment's notice. So we kind of got
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  Speaker 1: to be careful here, and that in large part is
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  Speaker 1: why he has participated in this with Israel, because sure,
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  Speaker 1: Israel can perform its own attacks on Iran, but when
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  Speaker 1: you've got the might of the US behind you, you're
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  Speaker 1: sending a real mess much about how serious you are
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  Speaker 1: about this, right. And so Trump's just sent the note
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  Speaker 1: out and said, well, you want to play games, Let's
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  Speaker 1: play games. I'm up for playing games. Let's see how
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  Speaker 1: this goes. Because the reality is, as we've talked about
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  Speaker 1: all week, you know, Iran is isolated not only in
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  Speaker 1: the world but in the Middle East, and so at
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  Speaker 1: some point it has to come to the table. They
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  Speaker 1: can say, oh, you know, we're not going to negotiate. Well,
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  Speaker 1: if you're not going to negotiate, you're just going to
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  Speaker 1: be wiped off the map. So at some point something
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  Speaker 1: has to give, and that is what Trump is playing for.
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  Speaker 1: And I hope, as they say, it will all be
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  Speaker 1: done within four weeks. I think the original plan was
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  Speaker 1: that they would sort of wipe out the military heads
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  Speaker 1: within a space of four weeks from what Trump was
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  Speaker 1: saying overnight, and in his words, were a little bit
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  Speaker 1: ahead of schedule. So it does leave a lot more
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  Speaker 1: time for getting other things done.
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  Speaker 3: I got to tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Trump was asked today who did he think would replace
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  Speaker 2: the iatola and the key leaders within the Iranian leadership,
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  Speaker 2: and Trump replied, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I guess the positions open. I'm creating jobs in Iran
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  Speaker 3: to so there you go.
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  Speaker 1: That'll be another job for Marco Rubio. You know, he's
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  Speaker 1: been running Venezuela and running Cuba and now.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that amuses me in the response,
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  Speaker 2: particularly from left wing progressive politicians here in Australia to
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  Speaker 2: this conflict is they're demanding to know is this attack
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  Speaker 2: on Iran legal?
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  Speaker 3: What's the legal.
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  Speaker 2: Basis for it? And of course they're all bemoaning the
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  Speaker 2: fact that Donald Trump has destroyed the international rules based order,
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  Speaker 2: which I've always thought was a little dubious to begin with,
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  Speaker 2: and his Andrew Hasty today saying the rules based order
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  Speaker 2: was pretty much always a fantasy.
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  Speaker 8: The world is governed by power, and I prefer a
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  Speaker 8: powerful US re establishing de terrence rather than other countries
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  Speaker 8: like Russia, you know, using might to advance its national ends.
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  Speaker 8: For global rules based order.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that.
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  Speaker 8: Exists anymore in Anyone who says it does is living
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  Speaker 8: in a fantasy land. This is a new world order,
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  Speaker 8: and that's why I'm so insistent on Australia reindustrializing, taking
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  Speaker 8: care of itself.
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  Speaker 2: That just before we discuss that, keep that in mind,
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  Speaker 2: the rules based order, it's now a fiction. Power rules,
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  Speaker 2: and we'd rather the West exercise power to rule the
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  Speaker 2: world than the alternatives. Have listened to Marco Rubio describing
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  Speaker 2: the kind of government Iran had and why the US
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: really had to deal with them using force rather than
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: sitting down over a cup of tea discussing possibilities.
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  Speaker 9: Imagine a year from now or a year and a
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: half from now, the capabilities they.
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  Speaker 3: Would have to inflict damage on us.
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: It's an unacceptable risk, especially in the hands of a
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: regime that's run by radical clerics. The Ayatola is erradical
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: was a radical cleric. That entire regime is led by
• 18:59
  Speaker 9: radical clerics who don't make geopolitical decisions. They make decisions
• 19:03
  Speaker 9: on the basis of theology, their view of theology, which
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: is an apocalypsetic one that has to be taken very
• 19:08
  Speaker 9: seriously as well.
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  Speaker 2: So a rules based order only works if everybody agrees
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: on the rules and to play by the rules. And
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: what happens if you break the rules? That has never
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: really existed. It certainly does not exist now.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: So it's ludicrous, is it not.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: For I'm thinking particularly of the Greens and certain elements
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: of the media who pepper government ministers with questions, is
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: it legal? What's the legal basis? A rules based order
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: is ridiculous of the first place.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean international law itself is basically fake. It
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: was invented after World War Two. It is not enforceable
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: in any way. It means absolutely nothing, and it basically
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: just subsidizes a bunch of academics to sit around giving
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: their opinions on just war theory. But no one actually
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: cares about your opinion of just war theory. They care
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: about the war itself and who's going to win at
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: the end of the day. We live in world of
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: great power politics. That is how the world is being shaped.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Trump is simply and Rubio and the right in America
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: is simply articulating what has always been the case. But
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: what the left really and some people on the right
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: have just tried to deny. We've all kind of thought, well,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: if we're nice to them, and they'll be nice to us,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: and we can all just get along. But as Rubio says,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: that doesn't work when you're dealing with people who actually want.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: To destroy you.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: So it's good that we've woken up from this delusion.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: I just wish that our government in Australia also snapped
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: out of it and realized the only thing that matters
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day is power.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: And of course, the rules based order has always been
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: based upon having might behind it. Like it's because there
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: is no rules based order if you don't have a
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: military in order to defend what you have. What you're
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: saying is your bits over there and my bits over here.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: And I know that we could both fight, but that
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: would be mutually should distruction, will leave each other alone.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: But we are now living in a world where that's
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: just not the case anymore. You have a rising China,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: we've seen what's happened in the Middle East, and so
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Trump has been trying to run this for a long
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: time now, ever since he became president again, that we
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: need to invest in our militaries. I mean, you know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: he goes off to NATO and says, you lot need
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: to increase your military spending. You can't simply rely on
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the US to do all the dirty work if it
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: ever comes to it. And then Europe turns around and says, yeah,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: we'll up our military spending. We ought to be doing
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the same here. We're not. I mean, we're increasing it
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: by a minuscule amount, but we're not going up to
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the three point five percent eventually five percent, which we
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: should be going to. You need to have something behind
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you if you actually think that what you have is
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: worth defending, and that's where we need to be.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Moving can I'll just point out one more thing with
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: regards to what Marco Ribio said about Iran being a
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: theocracy that have an apocalyptic religious zeal behind them. It
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: just demonstrates how incredibly either stupid or naive the Prime
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Minister is when he says the Great Australian Covenant is
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: wherever you come from, you arrive at the customs Hall
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and you just spence with your grievances. People don't give
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: up their religious ideologies and all the other things that
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: really matter to them at the customs Hall because they've
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: suddenly arrived in Australia. Marco Rubio understands reality. I don't
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: think our government truly understand reality at present, and they
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: are still living in a fantasy world when it comes
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: to many of the things we're trying to deal with.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Thankfully, though, Andrew Hasty seems to understand reality indeed, and
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I look forward to hearing a lot more of that
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: in the coming years. Hopefully. Let's move on to some
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: other news now. I love this story because it's always
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: so delicious when someone takes something the Left has done
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and then turns it back on them and says, how
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: about them? Apples and that's exactly what Marshall bail you
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: is doing now. There was a court case back in
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: twenty thirteen where a coal mine was overturned. The approval
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: for a coal mine was overturned on the basis that
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: it would cause psychological damage and spiritual damage to the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: people who live next to it. I e. What it's
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: suggesting is there is a feeling about the place you live,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: There is a vibe about the place you live in,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a culture about the place you live in, and if
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: you make a substantial change to that area, you are
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: then affecting the people who live in it. And that
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: case was one. So mister BAYLEEU, who has a property
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: near Cooler, which is about three hundred and fifty kilometers
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: north of Sydney, is doing exactly that, running exactly that
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: question against a wind farm that would be built directly
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: next to his joint This is from the Daily Telegraph today.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: In court documents seen by News Corps, mister Baylu argues
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the project would produce a range of unacceptable noise, landscape,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: visual and bar diversity impacts and in a fresh dev development.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: The court has permitted mister Value to amend his claim
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: to include a solistalgia contention, which argues that large scale
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: developments that change a person's home can produce psychological harm
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and spiritual distress. By the way, this is a project
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: with one point seven billion dollars. So we're talking about
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a mega wind farm here. And look, what's good for
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: the goose is good for the gander. If it's good
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: enough to get a coal mine overturned, then surely it's
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: good enough to get a massive wind farm overturned. I mean,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't matter what it might do for
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the energy grid or renewables or anything else. He's simply
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: saying I have the right to live where I want
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: to live, and it to be what I paid my
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: money to live there for. I don't see why you
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: could argue with that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Courts operate by precedent, so I would say he's in
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: with a pretty good shot. Forgive me if you mentioned
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: this already, but that it's one hundred and thirty one
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: turbines yep, two hundred and fifty meters tall being built
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: right next with property I it would affect your psychological
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: state whether it's a coal mine or whether it's a
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: wind farm. It's quite a bit irrelevant, really, isn't it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: The fact is you're getting this massive development that's changing
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the landscape completely right next door.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Well, you could also probably argue that a wind farm
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: would be more disruptive to your spiritual life because wind
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: farms go up, so you're going to see them, whereas
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: coal mines they dig down. So actually the wind farm
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: is highly disruptive. But I will be interested to see
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: what kind of spiritual justification he gives in the court.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, is he worshiping nature? How do wind farms
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: affect your spiritual wealth?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: How does a coal mine affect your spiritual well being?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Well? Exactly, I guess the contention of spiritual is simply
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: to mean one's connection. I wouldnection to land. Yeah, well, exactly,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: hear about all the time. That is good good for
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the Aborigin. It's surely it's good enough for us. But
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: you would you could certainly make the argument that it's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: a a large part of my welfare and my well
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: being that I go out to my rural property where
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I escape. He's a banker for a massive company, So
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I get away from my busy life in the city
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and I go out to the country where I have
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: bought this property. So I can escape all of these things.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: And now you're telling me I'm going to go to
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: basically what is my sacred place where I get away
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: from everything, and you're going to put up this great,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: big bloody wind farm that's going to chop up the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: birds that I have a real connection to. I mean,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: how could you argue with that?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing with this story, right, it's all
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: the inconsistencies, And just in that little monologue there, I
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: reckon you probably came up with four whether you realized
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: or not, inconsistencies with the way these things are treated.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: He's going to highlight this in court. I believe it
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: goes to court on Friday, so it'll be very interesting
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: to see whether or not consistency is applied.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: I also just love now the elite bankers. They've finally
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: turned against the wind farms because they're going to be
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: built right next to their hobby far Well.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: To be fair, he is a bay and the Baalues
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: have a well known long connection to the Liberal Party. Course,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Ted Baalu, who's a relative of this chap, was the
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Premier Victoria for a time, So hopefully he's one of
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: us and always has been.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think this Baileu certainly is well. Let's
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: go over to WA now. AI cameras are being used
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: to photograph people in their cars to determine whether they
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: are using their phone or wearing their seat belt incorrectly,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: but some people are labeling in as unfair because of
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: the things they've been caught out doing. One eighty five
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: year old mother said she briefly pulled her seat belt
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: away from her to turn around and speak to children
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: that were in the backseat. The camera caught her at
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: exactly that moment, and she ended up with a five
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty dollars fine, and it was double demerit
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: points because it was over the Christmas period. Look, I
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: understand that is an unfortunate instance, but I mean, seriously,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: that's probably one percent of the cases where there is
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: a genuinely unfair reason you've been caught outside of your
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: own I'm actually on the side of the AI cameras,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: the alternative copper. You pay some bureaucrats to sit there
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: scrolling through thousands of images of people in that are
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: you serious.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Better than a parking fine or a speeding file or no?
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: You can just appeal it if you think something unfair
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: has happened just to me.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, So here's my two problems with this.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Firstly, the onus is on the person who receives the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: fine to look and check that it's legitimate. There's been
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of people fined for holding a mobile phone
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: when in fact it was a glass's case, or it
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: was some other object that they were holding, not a
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: mobile phone. But if they hadn't checked the photograph and
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: then contested it.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: They would have had to have paid the fine.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: So the owners should not be on the accused to
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: prove themselves innocent. And second, then if you do believe
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: you're innocent, you've got to go to all the inconvenience
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: of going to court representing yourself or worse, paying a solicitor,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: and the governments sit back and just make you do
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: all the work when they didn't get the facts straight
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: in the first place.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: So that has always been even with a speeding fine,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: you've got to check.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: The fists amplified with a you know, I don't.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Disagree with that point at all, but the process is
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the same as it would be with a speeding fine,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: and there are occasions where they get the wrong car
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: because there are multiple cars going through an intersection and
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: they picked.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Up every speeding fight I've ever had. It was the
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: wrong cart.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I'm sure it was. Did that work for
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you and you can't worked? But beyond that, I do agree.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I think these AI cameras are ridiculous. A speed camera
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: is one thing, because it is simply picking up as
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you go through an intersection whether or not you are
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: going too fast. These things are stationed on like bridges
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and above you. They're looking down directly into your vehicle.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: So you could be sitting there without your trousers on
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and there is a camera taking No, don't laugh, this
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: is getting ridiculous. No, you think this is getting ridiculous.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: There was a woman, I think it was in New
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: South Wales who received an apology from the department because
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: they had seen her a photograph that showed her underwear.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: There we go, she got the apology.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, well they shouldn't be people underwear in the first.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: So what we're gonna spend millions of dollars paying someone
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: to sit there and manually.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: No, just don't have the cameras. Just don't have the
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: cameras in Western Australia now, because so this where they
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: use in WA, the law actually doesn't give the discretion
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: that if you, for instance, just moved your thing for
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: a moment, or you put your phone back on the
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: table or whatever it was, table chair, the discretion doesn't
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: exist to say, actually will wave the fine. And now
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: they're looking as well with the seat belt defenses in WA,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: because they're getting picked up all the time, whether or
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: not the owners should be as it currently is on
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the driver to pay the fine and cop the demerit points,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: or whether it is the person who was not wearing
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: their seatbelt correctly. Because you're driving along all of a sudden,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: this camera picks up because your mum, as we're talking about,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: turns around to look at the kiddos, and you're up
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: for all the demerit points in the fine because of
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: what someone else did. I say, just get rid of
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: the AI cameras, menace to society. I mean, next thing,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: they'll have cameras stationed at the front of your house
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: looking through your bedroom window to make sure you're not
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: committing any crimes in there at night.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: All right, Speaking of crimes, Jim Carey had to defend
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: himself at a awards ceremony in Paris, which is a
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: little insulting. He was there with a large entourage, mostly
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: family members, to receive an award. But people are saying
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Jim Carey, who's made a career of pulling different faces,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: looked nothing like he normally does, such that they accused
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: him of using an impostor to receive the award.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Have a look, I don't exist, So they're all character
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: that I played, including Jim Carrey.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: That's a wonderful feeling.
• 32:06
  Speaker 10: I really took on a pretty big challenge trying to
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: do my speech in French.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: You know, I wrote it and I researched it.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I've got to say that did not look like the
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Jim Carey that we're accustomed to. But maybe that was
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the real Jim Carrey and all the Jim Carrey movie
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Jim Carrey's.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Maybe they were all imposters.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: The real Jim Carrey please stand up. Yeah, but how
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: do you know? I mean, is it or isn't it.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: The organizers have come out and said, well, it was
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Jim Carey. But I suppose by the same token, I mean,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: someone could start a conspiracy theory that none of us
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: are actually Frier Leech or James mc Ferson or caleber Bond,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: and we've all absconded for the night to go and
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: drink at the pub, and we've managed to rope in
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: people who look and sound like us to do the job.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you ever really prove that?
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Well, it didn't help that there were people online who
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: were then claiming that they were playing Jim car the
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Awards show. So there was a drag queed it came
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: out and said that he with prosthetics and makeup, he
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: was actually the real Jim Carrey. But you know what,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I do think that was Jim Carrey. I just think
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: it was Jim Carrey with botched botos and a bit
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: too many fillers. If you look at the way his
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: cheekbones have changed, the eye shape, that's just called Hollywood face,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: way too much.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Plus I was just wondering if he'd been like eating
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: too many cheeseburgers or something, because he was looking a
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: bit plumped.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: No, that's fillers.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: He was also a bit more mellow than he normally is.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: But Jim Carey's got a history of depression and taking medications,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: so I don't know, but it did look like a
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: very different Jim Carrey to the ones that we've seen
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: in you know, Liar Liar and the Truman Show and the.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Mask and you could go on that is it, Jim Carey.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I yess we'll never know. One thing we do know though,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: is that the Left love to find an excuse to
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: blame Donald Trump for anything. Yes, the DSM FI, when
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: it gets updated to the DSM six, I think we'll
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: have Trump Arrangement syndrome in it as a diagnosable mental disorder.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: And so we bring to you one of the greatest
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: examples I've seen in some time, Larissa Waters, And what
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: is the Trump Tower on the Gold Coast going to
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: do well?
• 34:18
  Speaker 11: On Queensland's Gold Coast, there are plans for a Trump
• 34:21
  Speaker 11: Tower with two hundred and seventy apartments to sell, likely
• 34:25
  Speaker 11: to start at five million dollars. Tell that to Tammy,
• 34:30
  Speaker 11: a Gold Coast mum of two disabled kids who has
• 34:33
  Speaker 11: applied for more than thirty rental properties, and he's worried
• 34:36
  Speaker 11: that her family will become homeless if they can't find
• 34:40
  Speaker 11: a new home before their lease ends in March. Australians
• 34:43
  Speaker 11: need affordable housing, not Trump Towers for the ultra wealthy.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump caused the housing crisis in this country, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: he's certainly doing nothing to fix it. I mean, there
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: ago luxury apartments must now be banned on the Gold Coast,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: certainly if they're built by Donald Trump.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Apparently Green's logic for you can't beat it, Caleb, don't
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: bother arguing with it.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Just hereous, go with it. We're going to go to
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: a break.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: including the country's biggest radio program.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Looks like it's no more that's next.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program. Let's take a look at
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: what's making headlines tomorrow. Fray, you've got the front page
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: of Tomorrow's Australian.
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  Speaker 4: Indeed, there's a big splash about the Iran war. But
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  Speaker 4: there's also a really interesting story where unions are surprise, surprise,
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  Speaker 4: demanding five weeks of annual leave.
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  Speaker 3: The union movement.
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  Speaker 4: Will demand five weeks of holidays a year for millions
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  Speaker 4: of workers, pressing for law changes to guarantee an extra
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  Speaker 4: week of annual leave, the first time the entitlement will
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  Speaker 4: be lifted in more than fifty years. The ACTU will
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  Speaker 4: also push for an increase in the casual loading from
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  Speaker 4: twenty five percent to twenty seven point five percent to
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  Speaker 4: compensate the two point four million casuals who do not
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  Speaker 4: get paid annual leave and who would be ineligible for
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  Speaker 4: the additional week. Now, the article goes on to say
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  Speaker 4: that this would cost basically two percent extra in employment costs,
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  Speaker 4: which across the whole economy. That is a massive amount
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  Speaker 4: of money that is inevitably going to be born by
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  Speaker 4: businesses that are already struggling big time. Is this really
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  Speaker 4: what they're focused on?
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  Speaker 3: And don't we have.
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  Speaker 2: A major productivity issue in this country. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: how that's helped by everybody taking even more holidays than
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  Speaker 2: they already have.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just can't see this flying. And even Laby,
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  Speaker 1: which is of course joined at the hip with the
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  Speaker 1: union movement, can see I am sure that this just
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  Speaker 1: won't work.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Also in the Australian Tomorrow, unis enjoined Iran
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  Speaker 4: drone research. Australian universities have collaborated on drone research with
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  Speaker 4: Iranian scientists. It can be revealed as Iran's Islamic regime
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  Speaker 4: wages drone warfare across the Middle East. After Tehran launched
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  Speaker 4: at least one thousand unmanned Delta wing Kamakazi drones to
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  Speaker 4: bomb Golf States this week, killing civilians in airports and hotels,
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  Speaker 4: and hitting an airbase used by Australian soldiers near Dubai.
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  Speaker 4: The Australian has identified research collaborations between at least three
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  Speaker 4: universities and Iranian scientists relating to drone technology in recent years.
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  Speaker 4: Foreign Minister Penniwong ordered vice chancellors to immediately cease all
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  Speaker 4: collaborations with Iranian institutions. In February twenty twenty three, conference
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  Speaker 4: papers published after the ban reveal Australian researchers from the
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  Speaker 4: University of Sydney, University of New South Wales and Adelaide
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  Speaker 4: University have worked with Iranians to improve the efficiency of
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  Speaker 4: unmanned aerial vehicles better known as drones.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you just love.
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  Speaker 4: When taxpayer funded researchers are sharing information with and enhancing
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  Speaker 4: the militia capability of our enemies.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to point out that the Australian article did
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  Speaker 2: make clear that there wasn't a suggestion that had been
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  Speaker 2: on military technology necessarily, but still it is drones that
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  Speaker 2: are being used as weapons.
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  Speaker 4: And the thing is I mean look at the Russia
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  Speaker 4: Ukraine War. Eighty percent of the casualties are from drones.
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  Speaker 4: And these aren't necessarily military drones. They started as civilian
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  Speaker 4: drones that are super easy to manufacture. You can do
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  Speaker 4: it in bulk, pump out thousands of these things. And
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  Speaker 4: the problem is civilian technology can very easily be converted into.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely and that our universities would be cooperating with universities
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  Speaker 2: in the Islamic Republic of Iran on any issue is
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  Speaker 2: beyond the pale.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, Trump once said, drain the swamp, and
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's about time we drained the universities, to
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  Speaker 1: be quite frank, and the swamp is full of academics.
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 1: On the front of the advertiser tomorrow, of course there
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  Speaker 1: is the don the big one is coming. But then
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  Speaker 1: the story below that holiday from Hell. South Odius just
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  Speaker 1: sharing horror stories about being stuck in countries under Iranian bombardment.
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  Speaker 1: A missile struck a UAE based housing Australian troops on
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday around also closed the straight of Hormootz sending I
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  Speaker 1: probably said that wrong, sending shock waves around the world,
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  Speaker 1: and petrol forecast to reach three dollars e lita. Meanwhile,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: some she Muslims in Adelaide are saddened by the death
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: of the I Tolra. Well good luck to them, but sorry,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: did you say three dollars a liter? Three dollars a liter? Gosh, look,
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be mutiny on the streets when petrol
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: gets to three dollars a liter. That is insane. Like,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you know, I get all of this had to happen,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: but three dollars a liter for petrol is really going
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: to put the pinch on. And they're talking about as well,
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  Speaker 1: the sort of inflationary impact this will have. We had
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: an interest rate rise last month. It's very likely we'll
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  Speaker 1: have another one again, and stuff like this ain't going
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  Speaker 1: to help that case.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just incredible that petrol could go to that price.
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  Speaker 2: Any indication as to how soon this is likely to happen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but you'd have to imagine it would
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  Speaker 1: start flowing through pardon pun, reasonably quickly.
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  Speaker 4: I've read it in the next week, So don't want
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  Speaker 4: to encourage panic buying, but if you do need to
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  Speaker 4: fill up, you can't do it now.
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  Speaker 2: Guess what I'll be doing on the way home tonight. Indeed,
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  Speaker 2: restraight to the petrol station. Let's look at the front
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  Speaker 2: page of The Herald's son Kyle and Jackie Woe reads
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  Speaker 2: the headline, Jackie O resigns, breakfast show canceled as spectacular
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  Speaker 2: on air row erupts into escalates rather into biggest bust
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  Speaker 2: up in Australian radio history.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, Jackie O took time out
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  Speaker 2: from the Kyle and JACKIEO program because of comments that
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Kyle had made about her sudden interest in astrology. To
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: be honest, trail, I thought this was just one of
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: their stunts that they typically play that gets some great publicity,
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  Speaker 2: more people tune in.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't pay much attention to it because I thought it's.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Just a a roosts they're having on the public. But
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: apparently it's legit. Jackie O said, I can't work with
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  Speaker 2: Kyle anymore. Kyle's been given two weeks to explain himself
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  Speaker 2: otherwise he's sacked. And don't forget this is one year
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  Speaker 2: into a two hundred million dollar ten year deal for
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: this pair. So this is a massive story with huge
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: financial consequences for not just Kyle and Jackie O, but
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: for the station itself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there were two years, as they've got eight years
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  Speaker 1: to run on this thing. I mean, look, if it's
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: a publicity stunt, then they've really committed to the publicity stunt.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Because when their employer, Australian Radio Network starts putting out
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: statements to the ASX saying that this is what's happening,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's one hell of a publicity stunt. I
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: mean it's hard to think of an implosion like this.
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  Speaker 1: ARN has suggested that Jackie O could be given another
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: program of her own elsewhere on the network if she
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: was open to that, But there's also no detail around
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: what Carl Sandalans would have to do in order to
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: rectify this situation. Is it an on air apology though
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: he will not be on air when the show's broadcast tomorrow.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Is it that he privately has to make amends. Who
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: knows what he has to do in order to prove
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  Speaker 1: that this is not serious misconduct? But it is the
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: blowing up of one of the biggest media entities in
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  Speaker 1: the car.
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  Speaker 4: I really just don't understand how it was this explosive.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, when you listen to what he actually said,
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Jackie O, he basically just said, mate, you're getting a
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: bit too into the star signs and you're dropping the
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: ball on the show. You've got to think there was
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: more happening behind the scenes and that was just the
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: tip of the ice.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: It would seem that way.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: The other story on the front page of The Herald's
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: son We Want the Truth, reads the headline Exclusive Pole
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  Speaker 2: reveals overwhelming push for royal commission into Big Build roots
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: and surge and support for one Nation. The article reads
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: that three quarters of Victorians back a royal commission into
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: the Big Build corruptions scandal, with voters hitting out at
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the Allen government's handling.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Of the issue.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: The fresh Water Strategy poll show seventy four percent of
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: voters support further investigation. And this comes, of course, as
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: just Into Allen's government is battling with Jess Wilson's led Liberals.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Jess Wilson is leading just Into Allen forty six to
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: thirty as preferred prime minister.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised, so Premier.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: It don't make just Inter Allen prime minister.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: The whole country there for a moment.
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  Speaker 2: The only surprise in that story to me is that
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: it's only three quarters of Victorians who want a Royal
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: commission into this thing. Wouldn't everybody want a thorough investigation.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, it is a fresh water poll,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: so maybe it's actually forty seven in not seventy four,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: because they did the Libs polling during the election and
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: we saw how that turned out. But what it does
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: show is that the state government is truly out of
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: kilter with the people on this issue. We saw how
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Justintera Allen Beha when she was dealing with journalists on
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: this She's trying to be Daniel Andrews. The only problem
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: is she ain't Daniel andrew.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Now well, speaking of freshwater polling in the Camera Times
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: worst campaign ever, Former Opposition leader Peter Dutton's trump like
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: attacks on the Australian Public Service where a key reason
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: for the coalition's disastrous twenty twenty five election result. The
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Liberal Party's internal review found Liberal campaign staffers with themselves
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: working from home while mister Dutton peddled his unpopular APS policies.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: The review revealed, with the party's federal secretariat allowing flexible
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: workers an essential measure to attract the best talent. Now,
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: this is the review that the Liberal Party blocked from
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: being released and has now been leaked and tabled by
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Albanezi in Parliament. So it's all a bit of a shmuzzle.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: But I don't actually think the review says much. We
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: kind of didn't already know about that campaign quite right.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we're going to go to a break. When
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: we come back.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: If you're thinking about going hot air ballooning, we'll show
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you something in a moment that may have you reconsidering
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: that that's coming up at a moment. Well, if you
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: know anything about cayleb Bond, you'll know he's a great
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: cricket fan.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Caleb.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I put it to you, if Stuart McGill had not
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: been born at the same time as Shade Worn, he
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: would have been Australia's greatest spin bowler.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you're probably right. Things haven't gone quite
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: as well for mister McGill since then. Of course, most
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: recently got caught up in all this drag business, sentence
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: in court for it and all this sort of stuff,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: and since then he's been doing a podcast called Cricket
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Unfiltered with his co host Andrew Menzel. Now on the
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: latest episode of the podcast, mister Menzel was discussing the tryst,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: of course that Candice Warner, wife of David Warner, had
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: with Sonny Bill Williams many years ago, which in twenty
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: eighteen turned into an ugly row when we were playing
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: over in South Africa, spectators were turning out wearing Sonny
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Bill Williams masks, and of course this was the whole
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: time that the sandpaper gate was going on as well. Well.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: McGill did not take kindly to this being discussed at all.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Going in with Sunny Beale william Mass to try and
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: taunt Warner is low.
• 46:09
  Speaker 10: I think it's pretty low talking about it for starters manners.
• 46:13
  Speaker 10: So I think you know you didn't need to go
• 46:14
  Speaker 10: into details there. That's your idiot. Well you are a moron.
• 46:19
  Speaker 10: Continue next topic.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: All right, next topic.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Listen, you muppet. When I say move on, I'm not talking.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying keep talking about me. It's my show
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: as well. I can keep talking, go on, keep talking.
• 46:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah, look up, I may jump across the mic in
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: any second.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how to get some
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: publicity for your podcast.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that was the part the editors were
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: supposed to edit out and clearly it's the most entertaining
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: part of that podcast. But over in Texas there are
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: people who are grateful to just be alive after their
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: balloon crashed into a cell tower and they were left
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: dangle one thousand feet or three hundred meters in the air.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: Incredibly local emergency services manage to actually climb up the
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: cell tower and safely get them down. But oh my goodness,
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: could you imagine that that is just my worst nightmare?
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: And you have to climb all the way up and
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: then all the way back down in order to do that.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I mean that it'd be bad enough being stuck in
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: the hot air balloon, but me imagine being the bloke
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: who's got to climb three hundred meters up and back
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: down again.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Well, and the poor people who are stuck in the
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: hot air balloon, I mean, you're rescued, only to then
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: have to climb down that photo. Now, I mean that's
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: as terrifying as being caught.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: I think you'd be going down that tower pretty quickly.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I reckon you would be all right.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: If you've got any old pieces of artwork hanging around
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: in the garage, maybe don't put them out on the
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: nature strip for the local collection.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe hold on to them. Let me show you a painting.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: This is the vision of Zacharias in the Temple, depicting
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: a Bible event purported to be painted in Sea sixteen
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: thirty three by Rembrandt, but long ago dismissed as a fake. Well,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: they've just realized it's not a fake at all. It
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: is an original Rembrandt from sixteen thirty three. And rather
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: than being worthless, Caleb, it's worth someone in the vicinity
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: of forty to fifty million dollars. You'd be glad that
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: you hung on to it when everyone was saying it
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: was a fake.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: So what you're saying is the art that I've bought
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: in second hand shops over the years. I should go
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: and get assisted because I may be sitting on a
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: gold marn.
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  Speaker 3: You may well be.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Don't throw it out, or if you want to throw
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: it out, let me have a look at it first.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's very charitable you are, James.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: That's all we've got time for tonight. Thanks for your
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: company stick around. Coming up next is the Rita Pedity Show.
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  Speaker 3: Good Night,