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3 Guys Before The Game - TCU Game Preview (Episode 668) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in one and all. Yeah, it's that time. The music.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to that music. It tells us one thing and
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  Speaker 1: one thing only.
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  Speaker 2: It's a live, go live right now, start the show.
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  Speaker 1: He still thinks it's live. Take them to the side
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  Speaker 1: one days and explain it that. So we're in episode
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  Speaker 1: six six eight. Three guys before the game. This is
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  Speaker 1: our TCU preview. We previewing basketball.
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  Speaker 3: At all this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Well, well, all of that and more coming up, plus hoppies,
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  Speaker 1: obvious observations. You have also have a basketball my boy,
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  Speaker 1: my boy coming to the table with some victuals.
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  Speaker 1: mention it. We have guests in the studio and tremendous folks, right,
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  Speaker 1: just just wonderful. We got Tanner and Morgan and Kevin
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  Speaker 1: and is.
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  Speaker 2: It Tanner and Morgan and Morgan in Tanner?
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It's interchangeable. There's Morgan. What do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was confusion. You didn't do it in proper
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  Speaker 3: orgea you like skipped and then it threw us off.
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  Speaker 3: Yet he's right, so weounded.
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  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be one of those episodes. Huh, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be one of those. So when I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to Kevin.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have to back down just because he bowed
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  Speaker 3: up and tried to bully you. There, don't back down
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  Speaker 3: from him.
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  Speaker 1: So as I was talking to.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have a real big argument. It was not
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  Speaker 2: my best stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And you can stop trying to help him. That's enough.
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  Speaker 1: Too much help on Hoppy. Although every time we go somewhere,
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  Speaker 1: all we hear is, you know, you guys are awfully
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  Speaker 1: hard on Hoppy. You know what My response always is
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  Speaker 1: not hard enough, not hard enough. He deserves every single
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  Speaker 1: bit he gets. Anyway, Kevin's a CPA. That's all I want.
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  Speaker 1: All I wanted to say was Kevin's a cp.
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  Speaker 3: That's the shock of the episode. Though, the nice gentleman
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  Speaker 3: from the CPA profession came in with all your slander.
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  Speaker 2: CBA's love us.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, heck, we spoke to their state organization.
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  Speaker 3: They love us, CBA's love the podcast. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 3: they love you.
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  Speaker 1: You might be right about that too, all right, good,
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  Speaker 1: solid point. All right. So here we go, West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: and the Horned Frogs of TCU. The odd six o'clock
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  Speaker 1: start time on Saturday night. Don't be low, Chilli, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna be the first game this year,
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the first game this year where you have to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, wear more than a t shirt. Probably have
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  Speaker 1: to put some layers on, probably, So bring.
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  Speaker 3: Out your black stuff. Race rush. That's what you did, say,
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  Speaker 3: I went, I went, oh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, that's why you got all that stuff on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, bring your black bring some layers. No
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  Speaker 1: precipitation in the forecast, so it's gonna be nice.
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  Speaker 2: Lloween coming up. Maybe you'll get some get some of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll have people dressed up. Yeah, I would think.
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  Speaker 1: I would think. It seems like about a year since
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia last played.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a crazy it like that's not an exaggeration,
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  Speaker 3: feel like it's been multiple months.
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  Speaker 1: So am I right? We play one home game the
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  Speaker 1: entire month of October, that's correct, and then and then
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  Speaker 1: after this, he got two in November, the top and
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  Speaker 1: the bottom, that's correct. Man. This thing goes by so fast,
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  Speaker 1: does not fast enough for some Let's face it, it's been.
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  Speaker 1: It's been. It's been a rough week at at the ranch,
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  Speaker 1: and things continue to develop since the last time we
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  Speaker 1: got together. We now know that quarterback Khalil Wilkins is
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  Speaker 1: a questionable. We record on Thursday, and so we'll get
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  Speaker 1: the injury report now coming out here in the next
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  Speaker 1: tonight and then tomorrow, and then you'll figure out who's
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  Speaker 1: in and who's out. But the injuries continue to build
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  Speaker 1: up at the worst possible positions.
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  Speaker 3: So that's a likely Scottie Fox start again. But man,
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  Speaker 3: you talk about a team that was had surprising depth
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  Speaker 3: at quarterback now really doesn't have any. Max Brown, what's
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  Speaker 3: his availability? Probably okay to go, but Dinged.
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  Speaker 1: They always say he's always available in an emergency.
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  Speaker 3: That's never a striking endorsement, right there.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're getting towards Scott on the depth charge.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, it's got Keen wonderful, great kid, great kid,
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  Speaker 3: Max Anderson, true freshman out of the Old Panhandle, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: A tremendous height. So you know what I was just thinking,
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  Speaker 1: which is dangerous start of the season. We did the
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  Speaker 1: over unders. I bet you the only one we're going
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  Speaker 1: to hit on is over on the number of quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: that played.
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  Speaker 3: That was the easiest one on there. Yeah, I could
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  Speaker 3: have moved the line to almost eight and a half.
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  Speaker 2: And I know you over I thought it really is
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  Speaker 2: no way, it really is. I mean, and it is
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  Speaker 2: on top of just things going wrong, and now it's
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  Speaker 2: just it's compiling, is how bad things are going with
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  Speaker 2: the injuries. I mean it's it was already bad and
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  Speaker 2: you knew you were going to have issues with talent
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  Speaker 2: and certainly issues with depth, and then to get hit
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  Speaker 2: by the injuries and his key positions. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: a worst worst case scenario.
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  Speaker 1: Can you reset the line, like, let's do one of
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  Speaker 1: those late season reset the line and a number of
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks that play?
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  Speaker 3: How many has there been?
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  Speaker 1: Five? Right? Put it six and a hand Nico Jalen Khalil, Scottie,
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  Speaker 1: he just knacks he's five.
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  Speaker 3: Put it six and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it would be.
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  Speaker 2: That's historic.
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  Speaker 1: It's not funny. I'm not laugh at it. It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking when I heard the number six and
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  Speaker 1: a half, it's just a comical number.
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  Speaker 3: The other injury part of this, and it plays into
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  Speaker 3: what we've been saying about your your trying to at
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  Speaker 3: this point identify guys that will be back next year.
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  Speaker 3: What's your starting point for next year? Tike's Crawford's listed
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  Speaker 3: on that injury report as well. What's the offensive line situation?
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  Speaker 3: We heard Rich earlier this week, for really the first time,
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  Speaker 3: started to say there's going to be some other guys
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  Speaker 3: at different positions. Is the offensive line one of those.
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  Speaker 3: The other guy that we've mentioned the most outside of
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  Speaker 3: those starters has been Malik Agbo. We've seen him play
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  Speaker 3: a couple times, get some more snaps, seems to grade
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  Speaker 3: out pretty well. Scored a touchdown drive last week while
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  Speaker 3: he was in So that's I know. I keep saying
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  Speaker 3: the same thing the last couple of weeks, but that's
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  Speaker 3: still what I'm watching is which guys on this roster
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  Speaker 3: are going to do enough that they're clearly as part
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  Speaker 3: of the starting point for Poyson, because I think that's
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  Speaker 3: a critical part of this What's that number moving forward?
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  Speaker 3: How many guys do you have to go out and get.
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  Speaker 2: Just it may look like the basketball team.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you may have so many, wouldn't quite go
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  Speaker 1: that far. Basketball has not returned a point in two years.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, I'm being hyperbolic there, but you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. There could be tremendous turnover. You could see
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  Speaker 2: how many different starters next year.
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  Speaker 1: That perfectly segues us into Happy's obvious observations. He just
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  Speaker 1: made his first one. It could be a lot of change.
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  Speaker 1: That was Hoppy's first observation. Okay, so you've studied this
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  Speaker 1: up and you've done work on this with your obvious observation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, two things. One is what stood out to me
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  Speaker 2: this week, and Brad's going to get into the to
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  Speaker 2: the numbers, and I'm sure the numbers don't look good,
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  Speaker 2: but let Brad handle that. But two things that were
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  Speaker 2: said in the coach's interviews this week that we're disturbing.
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  Speaker 2: Rich Rodriguez said, quote, most of the games we haven't
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  Speaker 2: played well, the intensity and competitiveness was still there in
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  Speaker 2: this past game, it wasn't. Rodriguez said, that's poor coaching
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  Speaker 2: because we have to do our job, especially me, for
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  Speaker 2: the guys. I have to have a certain level of
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  Speaker 2: competitive and so and so forth in that game, even
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  Speaker 2: early in the game before anybody scored a touchdown. That
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  Speaker 2: was the most surprising part of that. So here's the offensive,
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  Speaker 2: the main guy talking about a lack of competitiveness among players.
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  Speaker 2: Zach Ally, you watch the amount of loafs were loafs
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  Speaker 2: and the things that happened in the game. I called
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  Speaker 2: it out right on the first series bread the second
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  Speaker 2: play of the game, we have six guys not running
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  Speaker 2: to the ball. So now you. We've talked about injuries,
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  Speaker 2: we've talked about depth, we've talked about talent. Add to
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  Speaker 2: that lack of effort, lack of competitiveness, not by everybody,
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  Speaker 2: but by players on the field, and that's what often
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  Speaker 2: happens when you have things that's going completely off the rails.
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  Speaker 2: So to me, that is another key factor that just
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  Speaker 2: makes things even harder if you have players who aren't
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  Speaker 2: who aren't competing at a high level. That to me
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  Speaker 2: was very, very disturbing and disappointing because what did I read.
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  Speaker 2: I actually wrote down a quote. I'm not sure if
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  Speaker 2: I have it here, but you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: a lot of premier athletes say, Brad, you want to win.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the goal is to win. But even
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  Speaker 2: if you don't win, you have to you expect yourself
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  Speaker 2: to do your best to be competitive at all times.
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  Speaker 2: So that to me is a key thing that emerged
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  Speaker 2: this week overtly about this team. Yeah, second thing is
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  Speaker 2: and this is my this is my glass half full.
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  Speaker 2: It's homecoming. It's homecoming. And for those folks who went
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  Speaker 2: to WV or to any school, college is often when
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  Speaker 2: we had a couple of recent college going into what's
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  Speaker 2: right here today is where you can earn more.
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  Speaker 3: Tanner and Morgan or Morgan.
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  Speaker 2: Where you started to really the arc of your life
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  Speaker 2: began to bend. Okay, you're away from home. Typically you're
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  Speaker 2: under the influence of really smart professors your meeting there,
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  Speaker 2: so your life is changing and you're starting this arc
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  Speaker 2: that's going to impact the rest of your life. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe you fell in love and fell out
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  Speaker 2: of love and fell in love again, and maybe you
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  Speaker 2: party too much one semester but still got a respectable
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  Speaker 2: two point five. You made friends that last, that that
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  Speaker 2: last for life, and you're always going to come back.
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  Speaker 2: You're always going to come back, and you come back
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  Speaker 2: for the game. That's a reason to come back. But
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  Speaker 2: also you'll come back and you'll ride around town and
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  Speaker 2: you'll show your kids or you know, where that crappy
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  Speaker 2: apartment you lived in, and it'll be very tactile. You'll
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  Speaker 2: be here and touching things and and and all those
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  Speaker 2: memories will come flooding back. And that's a special I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: that's a special time. That's a neat experience right to
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  Speaker 2: go through that. So for those folks who are coming
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  Speaker 2: back this weekend, I hope the game is good. But
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  Speaker 2: there's more to it than that. There's the whole experience
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  Speaker 2: of returning to a place that is near and dear
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  Speaker 2: to your heart. That is, that is a sense of
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  Speaker 2: place that that country road leads you back home. And
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  Speaker 2: that's why this is a special weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Geez, I knew that was coming. I would have put
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  Speaker 1: like some really big time music underneath.
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  Speaker 2: I just feel stronger.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think he's very emotional about this homecoming? As
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  Speaker 1: as emotional as I've ever seen you about a homecoming.
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  Speaker 1: I get what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: I feel very strongly about that. And the longer I'm
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  Speaker 2: away from the university, the more the more I feel
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  Speaker 2: that tug, even though I live in town, and I
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  Speaker 2: just think it's it is a neat experience, a neat experience,
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  Speaker 2: and just just that.
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  Speaker 1: So will you go back to rekindle your memories at all? What?
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  Speaker 1: Will you go burn a couch like you did when
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  Speaker 1: you were a student here?
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  Speaker 2: No, I probably won't do that, but I'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: this is that I'm going to the Arizona State game.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah you are.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to the Arizona State stay game. And the
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  Speaker 2: five other people that are going are all college friends
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  Speaker 2: fifty years later, all college friends. So this is this place,
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  Speaker 2: and I know it's true of other schools too, but
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  Speaker 2: you're here and you leave here, and it's it's it
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  Speaker 2: is in you. It's indeblibly linked to you, and that
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  Speaker 2: to me is special. So love to win the game,
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  Speaker 2: hope to have a great experience, But there's more to
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  Speaker 2: it than that.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, you know you went way too seriously.
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  Speaker 3: That was really well said. Now let's turn that back
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  Speaker 3: to football, because I do think that is one of
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  Speaker 3: the things that's missing in college sports right now. That's
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  Speaker 3: that's a that's a big missing piece right there, and
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  Speaker 3: it ties into what you said about the loafs or
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  Speaker 3: the lack of effort. That's surprising that that happened. It's
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  Speaker 3: surprising that that zach Ally and rich both meant. But
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  Speaker 3: you also can kind of see that, right. You get
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  Speaker 3: a team that's really struggling and then is beset by
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  Speaker 3: injuries on top of it, and you have coaches looking around,
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  Speaker 3: as we just said, they're evaluating who's coming back next year. Well,
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  Speaker 3: that's what players are doing too, right, They're looking around saying,
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  Speaker 3: maybe I don't have a spot here.
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  Speaker 1: Next year.
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  Speaker 3: And if you're not singularly focused, that's a hard world. Man,
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  Speaker 3: That is a hard world to live in and be
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  Speaker 3: good if everybody's not one thousand percent in and going
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  Speaker 3: in the same direction. And clearly it's not right now.
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  Speaker 3: And I understand that I've played on really bad teams
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  Speaker 3: and it is hard to stay engaged and give your
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  Speaker 3: best effort, especially when you're looking around going, well, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if I'm going to be back on this campus,
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  Speaker 3: either by my choice or your choice is the coach,
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's part of what's happening right now,
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  Speaker 3: is that it's not so much of just oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: you've lost the locker room. This is a disaster. It's
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  Speaker 3: everybody starting to look out for themselves and when that happens,
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  Speaker 3: that's not good. And you're seeing those results on the field.
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  Speaker 1: Those are all very good points. And I think it's
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  Speaker 1: going to lead us into a different philosophy and a
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  Speaker 1: different way of how you coach nowadays because of that,
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  Speaker 1: because coaches used to have the ability to hang it
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  Speaker 1: over your head. Is your scholarship going to be renewed.
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  Speaker 1: We might not renew your scholarship, But for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: they knew it was going to get renewed. Unless you're
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  Speaker 1: just an absolute jughead and do things now. There are
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  Speaker 1: so many that come in for just a year, let's
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  Speaker 1: face it, man, like it's late October and they can
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  Speaker 1: do the math too, and they know there's five games left,
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  Speaker 1: and they just might be a half a step slower
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  Speaker 1: on the field, their preparation might not be as good.
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  Speaker 1: So the ones that are going to be successful, the
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  Speaker 1: coaches that are going to be successful, are the ones
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  Speaker 1: that figure out a way to put a carrot some way,
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  Speaker 1: somehow in front of each of those players so that
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  Speaker 1: there aren't those kinds of setbacks. Now, I would say this,
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  Speaker 1: the eye in the sky never lies. And so if
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  Speaker 1: anyone has aspirations to play professionally, they're not loafing right now,
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  Speaker 1: because those NFL folks w every single ounce of tape,
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  Speaker 1: and if they see that, you're off the list, and
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  Speaker 1: that will be something that's hung over their heads by
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  Speaker 1: the coaches, like, if you think you've got any chance
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  Speaker 1: after here, you will not loaf. But what if those
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  Speaker 1: guys know they've got no chance to play anywhere else?
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  Speaker 1: That's when it becomes a potential problem.
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  Speaker 3: I also found it interesting that Rich came out and
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  Speaker 3: said this week, what a lot of people have been saying,
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  Speaker 3: that they just misevaluated on a bunch of guys. Yes, like,
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  Speaker 3: I give him credit for just standing up and saying,
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  Speaker 3: all right, it's you can see it in the results.
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  Speaker 3: But for him to stand up and say, we just
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  Speaker 3: misevaluated some in the portal. We've got to get better
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  Speaker 3: at that, I'd give them credit for doing that.
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  Speaker 1: Someone hit me with a text, and I think they
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  Speaker 1: kind of hit it right. They said Rich showed up
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  Speaker 1: at the yard sale at noon. Problem was it started
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  Speaker 1: at nine am, and by that, they're saying, by the
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  Speaker 1: time he started to get into it and go get guys,
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  Speaker 1: the first fruit was already picked over. And I think
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  Speaker 1: there's some of that in that.
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  Speaker 2: Is well, I think there's a lot in that. And again,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's interesting and notable that he did. He
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  Speaker 2: was candid about that, and if there this is not
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  Speaker 2: a positive, but at least it's worth noting that at
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  Speaker 2: this point in this season, you can accurately and truthfully
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  Speaker 2: identify all these things. It's not like you're sitting here going, well,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: you know something, I know there's you know they they're
• 16:20
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  Speaker 1: So, Yeah, it's fair to say that West Virginia and
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  Speaker 3: And they've been working on this for a while to
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• 17:12
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• 17:13
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• 17:15
  Speaker 3: no way around that. This second year, but it does
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• 17:20
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• 17:23
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• 17:26
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if there's an what if there's a positive
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say like half you're just you're dressed
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  Speaker 1: like the grim Reaper over there. Do you have any
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• 21:14
  Speaker 3: This is one of those situations We ever have many
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  Speaker 3: of these, but we always talk about the numbers mature
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: as you get through the season. Yes, well they're not
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: maturing in a in a favorable fashion. So well let's
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  Speaker 3: let's go through some here. They just they are what
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: they are. Sometimes the numbers are just what the numbers are.
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  Speaker 3: The only way through storms at times is what.
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  Speaker 2: The only way out is through.
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  Speaker 3: Gotta go through. So we're just going through. Start with
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Josh Hoover coming in the TCU quarterback. This is this
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: is a particular point of concern if you're West Virginia
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: getting a guy that's it's really good return from last year.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Had had an awesome season last season for the Frogs.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: He's back twenty one touchdown, six interceptions, so he's actually
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: three touchdown passes per game, coming off his best passing
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: grade of the season last week against Baylor. Here's this
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: is the normal part of the program where I would
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: then say to you this, but I tell you what
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Josh Uver might be due for a turnover too here
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: right that we have called this before previous shows.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: This year, we have called this, and it has happened.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: And it has come to fruition. So I would say again,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: at a normal point in the program, if you look
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: beyond those numbers, guys, sixteen big time throws is, according
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: to Pro Football Focus, sixteen big time throws on his
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: twenty one touchdown passes fourteen turnover worthy plays. Even though
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: he has just six interceptions for his career, he's only
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: two above five hundred in the big time throw category
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: forty six to forty four.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: So you're bating us up here for some picks.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: There should be some picks involved in this game, right.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Those numbers tell you, as they have earlier in this season,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: that you should get an interception or Two's the here's
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: the stunning number here that just will totally bum you out.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm sorry. West Virginia is an unbelievable zero to
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: four when winning the turnover battle. That's crazy, That's that's amazing.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: That that's how many times do we lead on upsets? Hoppy?
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: What is in page one of the manual turnover don't
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: turn it over, get tournament? You're gonna it just it
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: hasn't mattered that year that, like I could just stop
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: right now. That's a total bum out.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: That that tells you how bad you are offensively.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, you haven't been able to take advantage because you're
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: top twenty nationally in takeaways and it's not translating into wins.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: I know. Now here's again not to bum me out
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: with the segment, but.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're doing a heck of a job so far.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, it is what it is. The bigger concern
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: I have with this TCU offense is a couple of things.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: First and foremost, it's the lack of pressure that West
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Virginia has displayed the last four games. It's which is
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: which has surprised me hoppy given how it looked against Pitt,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: and I know Pitt's offensive line struggled. We talked about
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: that leading into the game, that we thought you could
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: get some pressure and it changed the game. You hit
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Eli Holsting right in the face to the first possession
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: and it changed him the whole game, helped lead you
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: to a win, and then that's been it. You just
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: basically have gotten no pressure in Big twelve play. This
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: would seem to be another offensive line. It's got some
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: injury concerns it would seem to be one where, all
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: things being equal, you could get some pressure, but we
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: haven't seen West Virginia be able to do that. If
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: they don't, if they don't get pressure, look out for
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: some of these big plays. TCU loves to throw it downfield.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: They're in the ninety fifth percentile in pass explosive percentage.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: They're ninety second percentile nationally in just overall explosive percentage.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: So they're going to attack the middle of the field
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: and they're going to throw the ball deep on you.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: So that concerns me a lot. For a West Virginia
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: defense that's really struggling to contain explosives. It costs you
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: the game against UCF.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what have you seen? What did you see against UCF?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I mean you had that stunning stat about big plays
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: four hundred.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: And eighteen yards on the fifteen or sixteen big plays
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: that UCF had. So this is not the offense you
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: want to be facing. If that's been a struggle, here's
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: another number that under normal circumstances, I would say, all right,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: here's another key for the defense, and this bodes well
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: for you. TCU has been one of the best nationally
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: when it comes to third and fourth down success. They're
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: fourth nationally in fact, converting fifty eight percent of the time.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: But here's what's interesting. They're one twenty second nationally in
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: average third down distance to go. Those numbers are wildly
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: apart fourth at conversion and one twenty second on yards
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: to go, almost eight yards per third down.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: They're converting on long plays.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: And or going forward on fourth, which is what I'm
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: getting to. Normally, though, I would say to you that
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: should regress. Right, We've we've got a math major in
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: the room that should there should be some.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Is that Morgan or Tanner Tanner.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Morgan or Tanner Morgan, whichever. Just make it one name
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: now it'd be easier for you. So there should more
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: sam In a normal situation game seven or eight, you
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: should start to have some regression. Those numbers shouldn't be
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: that far apart. You keep leaving yourself third and eight,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: you're not going to be fourth in the country in conversions.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: But we saw this against UCF. What are teams doing
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: against West Virginia. They're saying, all right, it's third down,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: so what we're gonna go for it on four down?
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: The eight yards doesn't matter because we have two downs
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: to get it, so watch third downs. If West Virginia
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: has any chance to hang around in this, I would
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: think it's going to become third and long situations that
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: you get off the field.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Can I be recognized, sir for a point?
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, here's the lunacy of that stat that you gave
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: about turnover margin. Since two thousand and two, West Virginia
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: is one oh four and nineteen in games in which
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: they win the turnover margin, they're one oh four and nineteen.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: That's a winning percentage of eighty four percent.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Turnovers matter.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: And Brad said, and Brad said, four times this season
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: you've won it and you've lost the game oh and four. Well,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: it's a statistical here, that's a bright spot. It's a
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: statistical anomaly, which means dog gone it. On Saturday at
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Baby's due to come home.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: You are due either that, either that or you're due
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: to not get as many turnovers. I mean, but you
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: come back to look a look at the Ohio University game.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: To me, that was the embodiment of it. You got
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: what four turnovers right, and couldn't you know, three consecutive
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: turnovers and couldn't move the ball end up with minus
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: seven yards.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, mine is nine. I think not to make it
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: worse than it was. All right, neither here nor there. Okay,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: flip over the offensive side for a second, because you
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: got enough defensive things to worry about there. Can you
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: run it? I mean you just start there. Are you
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: going to have any success running it? This is and
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: this was. This is one of those where if you
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: look at just the numbers for TCU, it shows you
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: that you should be able to to run the ball
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: on them. If you talk to and we did this
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: week on sports Line Brian Estrids are play by play guy.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: He actually thought the numbers are lying to you there
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: a little bit. He thought they're better in past defense
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: than they are running it, which is a big concern
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: because it looks like you can run it, which might
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: be okay, well maybe you can get through there them throwing.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: He Brian's contention is defensively and this does not well
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: for you that they're starting to come into their own
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: against Baylor. Last week Sawyer Robinson really good. Yes, we
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: saw him be super efficient against West Virginia. TCU got
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: to him twenty pressures in that game, held him to
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: under fifty percent completion. Baylor had seven explosive plays. They
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: all came through the air, none on the ground. So
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: as a TCU defense that you're not quite sure what
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: to expect, maybe what you thought could happen might not.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: If that pass defense is as good as Brian thinks
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: it is, even though the numbers may not tell you that,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: that could be a potential problem. But more to the point,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: those pressure numbers and holding a really good experienced quarterback
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: in Robertson with what has been a very effective Baylor offense,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: holding that offense in check probably doesn't bode well for
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Scotty Fox, who's trying to navigate through his first year
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: as a starter here.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: And that's just you know, Brad, the the stats that
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: you give for TCU, if all things were equally you'd say, well,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: there's a couple of things you could take advantage of, yes, right, right,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: But given the fact that West Virginia has a unable
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: to run the ball, be unable to pass the ball,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: see starting an inexperienced freshman quarterback, the lack of playmakers,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: it those those potential vulnerabilities of TCU don't matter much.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I mean they matter, but but West Virginia is not
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: able to take advantage of them Pharaoh.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, all right, let's just stop there.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: That's enough.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: So what was the do we have over one and
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: a half positives?
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think the did we got there? They did
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: lose at Kansas State forty one to twenty eight. Maybe
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: coming away from home, maybe maybe a lot to your point,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: hop what what the coaches had said this week about
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the delivering effort, Like, if you don't deliver at your
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: optimum effort level, it's going to be a long day
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: at the ballyard. And that's just the beginning. Like the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: reality of is this. Guess what, TCU has more better players.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: We call that MBP. They have more better players. Now
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily always mean you're gonna win the game.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: It's which team is gonna play better on Saturday. But
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: if you don't bring your absolute A plus effort, they're
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: gonna outplay you.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: And how this is We've said this before. This is
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: gonna have to be a little bit of belief in
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: the unseen. Right, You're gonna need some help. TCU is
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: gonna have to come in super flat because they're looking
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: at West Virdan's performances and don't take it seriously, You're
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: gonna have to play at an optimum level, Scotti. Fox
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: is gonna have to come out and take on a
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: pass defense that, like I said, the numbers show you
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: should be able to throw it right. You may not
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: be able to, but he's gonna have to come out
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: and Cam Vaughn's gonna have to go bananas, and you're
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: gonna have to have some guys made plays that they
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: haven't made over the last few days offensively and defensively.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: What is and I keep going back to these negative points,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: but I'm unfortunately, I think there's this obvious is that
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: what was really scary about what Zach Allie and Ritrodriguez
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: said was when they use the word loafing or lack
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: of effort at the beginning of the game. At the
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: beginning of the game, Tony, not when the game's out
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: of hand and it's the fourth quarter and everybody's tired.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: At the beginning of the game.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I would hope, I would think, my gut would tell
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: me that that won't happen again, Okay this year, it
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: won't happen on Saturday, Okay. I would think that they
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: would get that taken care of this week that they
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: should come out and play at a very the best
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: that they can play at a high level of efficiency.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're I would think rich Rod would
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: have the attitude as well as well, Zach Alley is it. Look,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: if you're not gonna have effort and you're gonna get beat,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: then play somebody else who will make an effort, even
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: if they're not quote unquote as a good.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Which they talked about this week, that you would see
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: some different guys at different positions, so that may be coming.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what's the matter if you're gonna get beat,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Let somebody who wants to be on the field be
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: on the field.
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  Speaker 3: pushing the Kitkats.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Talk to a guy the other day went into the
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: flat Woods. One you know that's two doors. When you
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: open that the one, the first one, not the truck.
• 33:18
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  Speaker 3: Start that again, a lot of confusion. Don't start that again.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to a guy this week went in there, had
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• 33:28
  Speaker 1: had it on a pallette, and they just opened both
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  Speaker 1: those doors. Forklift just made it in there, extended, picked
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  Speaker 1: it up, brought it back out, just put it in
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  Speaker 1: the back of his pickup truck. That's how big of
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  Speaker 3: That location is usually well stocked with connection three oh
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  Speaker 1: All right, did you do you have Did you have
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: spreads on stats at all yet for basketball? No?
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: But let's talk basketball, but no, no real numbers coming
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: out of that. We talked on the last episode about
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: some of the numbers coming out of the Maryland closed
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: practice there that we're just really really encouraging, right, really
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: encouraging and exciting. I think that's the biggest thing. I'm
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: just looking forward to seeing this team get back on
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: the floor here and get out in a public venue
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: where people can see them. And they'll be out Friday.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Don't forget Friday night, they'll be here. If you're locally,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: they're going to be out at Woodburn Circle, the Men's
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: and women swinging Ballin' at Woodburn. It's called open event,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: free to the public. They're going to put a partial
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: court down and be out there doing some drills, shooting contests,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: and no he did not immediately following the homecoming parade.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: You just walk right over and check out ballin at Woodburn,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: free to public.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Excellent. And at the same time, you could also if
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: you would stop at our teelgate for a little while
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: by Daniels three guys two, then head over to the
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: homecoming parade and then catch the ball into Woodburn.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had several call or texts on the text
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: this week about when the tailgate will take place, the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: food court will take place, and as I go through
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: this right now. I can tell you that it will
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: be from three to nine on Friday, three to nine
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: on Friday, and then Saturday nine to thirty ish to
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: three thirty ish and then from noon until two on Saturday.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: We will have live music from the folks at mon
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Hill's Records. Now, they've done a great job, tremendous. They've
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: played at our b Dubs events two sides, and they've
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: played at our United Way played at the United Way
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: event for US sides. I don't know if it's going
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: to be done, it'll be someone else.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: But they've been to the food Court too this year.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's true too.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: So here's who's going to be at the food court.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Rev Kev's Barbecue, Grateful Bread, Bret's terrific Scones, Pepperoni rolls,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: The Big Huge Lemonade will be serving lemonade, Big lemon
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: and our friend Duka and the folks from Parkersburg Brewing Connection.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Three of what's Duca making? I don't know what I do?
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: What's he doing?
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: He actually has?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: He always made it.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: That is that great to do. Buy chocolate baclava and
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: then I think he spices up your lemonade. If you
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: wanted a little adult beverage.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Versus a little something in there A does.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: In fact, it's a wine bar. They've got accouterments there
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: that can come with your drink.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: There's a wine selection.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Hey. One basketball thing, one basketball thing. Talking about these
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: secret scrimmages. Talking to a Division one head coach this
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: morning about his secret scrimmage. Our coach, No, it was
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: not ours, it was not Ross. It was another guy.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: And uh, he said, yeah, a secret scrimmage. I always
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: have fun. I said, what do you mean, you always
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: have fun? He goes every year, put a whistle in
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: my pocket. I said, what he says, I put a
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: whistle in my pocket? I said, what do you He goes,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: that's the only time I do it. He said, Like,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: we're scrimmaging this weekend, this past weekend, and kids getting
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: ready to shoot file shots down the other end, and
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: there's moisture on the floor. And so the coach from
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the other team he's playing is telling the official hate
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: there's moist there's get to get someone and wrap it up.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Officials for whatever reason, like they weren't hearing them, they
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: weren't paying it. So my guy takes out his whistle
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: blows the whistle of the officials. Like, what in the
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: world just happened there? He said. He goes, got some
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: wetness side of the floor. I gotta clean that out there.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: So then, okay, once you think one time whistle, just
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: to just do it once, don't don't abuse it, he says.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Now there's like about fifteen seconds left and the half
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: we get possession of the ball. We come down the floor.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: He goes, I want a thirty second time out. So
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the guy runs by me, the official, I said, yo, yo,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: time out, time out. He runs right by me. He
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: goes down to the baseline, doesn't listen. He goes, I
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: took the whistle out. Whistle officials again, He goes, I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: want a thirty I need a thirty here, he says. Yeah,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: he says, it works like a charm.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe that would be something interesting to add to the game.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Let the let the coaches be able to use a
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: whistle like twice a half.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: You imagine that, get you get to use it once
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: a half once on a half. You have a special whistle.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: It sounds different than the officials whist. And you want
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the damn you want the damn thing. Stop right now,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I want it stopped.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Well four o'clock on Sunday tip off against Wheeling. It
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: neat experience for Wheeling too. We saw it last year
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: with Charleston. That's really cool for those guys from those
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: programs to be able to come in here to this
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: building and play last year. It was really impactful for
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: James Long who played here this year. Chris Richardson, the
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: head coach for Wheeling, is excited to bring his guys
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: but personally excited. Went to Gail Catlet's camp as a
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: as a kid, covered the Mountaineers for Great Hunters, Blue
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: and Gold News for years and now gets an opportunity
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: to return to the Coliseum and coach his guys.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Did we hook him up with Chris Wallace? Is that
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: how he got into this crazy thing?
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Hunter, Hunter, And there's a long story there, but yes,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Hunter bailed on a dinner one night, wouldn't go out
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: to dinner with Chris Wallace Hunter Baales. Chris was already
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: ready to go to dinner, so Chris Richardson went with him,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: asked him for an internship. How do I get into coaching?
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Had turned in start got into it?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: What? Also?
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: This was interesting talking to Chris yesterday or the game.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: What also got him started in coaching, he was he
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: went to a coaching clinic. One of the first things
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: he did for Blue Gold News was he covered John
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Bee Lines one of his first coaching clinics, and was
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: there and just was was hooked and mesmerized with the camp.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: And then and then was around practice a lot and
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: covered coach b Line and interesting coach be Line of
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Wheeling Jesuit graduate at the time, and linked up Chris
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: and so he'll bring his team down here on Sunday.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you for an over under setting over under.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I made three pointers by the Mountaineers on Sunday. Oh,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: now we know they had at least sixteen this past weekend.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Over fifteen and a half.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: You're going over again.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying that was over there.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I know it was always over that number on Maryland.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I would know that's a big number because you're also
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: have a big size advantage over Wheeling, So I think
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: you're gonna be able to get into the paint.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Little bit the number. Give me half of that.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: I was going to say eight and a half, Okay,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I know that sounds ridiculously low given what they just did.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: But there's there should be some regression to the mean there.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: You're going to get some some easier looks. I would
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: think in the eight and a half, I'll go over.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: If if I were Chris, I'd be milking that experience.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I'd be walking that sideline, I'd be calling time out,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: I'd be working the officials. I would just get the
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: whole experience, right. I would not be sitting there quietly.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, he won't, he won't. I think that'll be a
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: great experience that his dad, and he's been a long
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: time supporter and helps run MAC events down in Charleston
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: for years. That's a need. That's a neat experience for
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: them to come in here and and cool. I think
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: that West Virginia or other division on programs are able
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: to do that right now, to help out another program
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: like that and give them some experience, help their budget
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: a little bit. It'll be it'll be great for those players.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Four o'clock and then the women go after. The women
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: will follow the WVU men and they'll be playing the
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: fighting Falcons of Fairmont State six six thirty, I think
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: might be the start time for that one. All right,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you ready to heal?
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah? By the way, Fairmont SAT's women, Stephanie's got them
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: rolling down there. Stephanie Erson head coach, former Stephanie Michael,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: she has got the Falcons rolling.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Put a line on that game. What are you going with?
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Uh, don't.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna give you a line, not on not
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: on the books?
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Is it? I mean to you sometime?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Are we doing basketball?
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• 41:39
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• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Noting that Santa Clara University's basketball team. Oh my gosh,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I know this is a sign Theory Darlin. Darlin played
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: two years in the NBA's G League and London Johnson,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: who played in the G League three seasons.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: He went down Crickie on London Johnson. He did you
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: hear London Johnson.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Has signed with Louisville. This is good news for West Virginia.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: The Mountaineers. Maybe can bring Eric Stevenson back. Absolutely right,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: that was my first thought.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Or maybe EMMITTT. Matthews, ray kwon battle. I mean, think
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: of the G League players available, and look if you
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: can get G League players. I was watching the Knicks
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: and the Cavaliers last night. I mean, if Duce has
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: an off night.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Wow, how about how good did he? Like?
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Fifteen points four of six from three. I was gonna
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: say a quick little recap and they'll come back to that.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Because because this was this, Santa Clara did it, and
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure anybody.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Knew, no no one knew. Louisville did it.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: And it became a deal. I mean, if you watch
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: the Big twelve media day this week, Scott drew led
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: his appearance on stage with they asked him, what'd you
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: learn this summer? What'd you learn about you? He guess, well,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: I learned you can take a G League player and
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: put him on your team.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: So I don't think a lot.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Calvin Sampson had no idea that was happening.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: So I'm thinking that if the Knick's a wild one,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: if the Knicks are off one night West Virginia's playings
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: bring ducebag.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Well they do that with two way players. Javon's on
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: a two way contract. He's going to play League Oscar
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: two way contract. Just now just include well it's all
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: joking aside. That surprised me. I wasn't aware that that
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: was doable that. I don't know why I'm surprised. I
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: don't know why anything wows me anymore. I'm really not
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: That was a that wowed me where it wowed me
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: In this.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: New environment we keep saying that new environment. It seems
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: like just every what month or every two months, there's
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: something you go what I guess So I guess you
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: can do that.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Now, I guess you.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Can do that.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I see why the administrators are having trouble getting their
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: arms around it.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you supposed to like, how are you
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: supposed to run your program correct?
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: What are you supposed to do?
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Are you supposed to is coach supposed to stand out
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: a guy now and say, go scout the G league
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: see if I can find a guy.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yes. What it means yes, it underscores the lunacy because
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: of the inconsistency of their rulings. So, for example, Chance
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: more for the Mountaineers has to sit out five games
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: to start the season.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Right, he did because he appeared in five. He appeared
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: in five in Archanestras. That was the compromise.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't, he didn't take any money, He
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: didn't put himself out there. He didn't go to the
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: G League. Like define for me how you could even
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: like everyone should be eligible like.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: All the time, all the time, it doesn't matter, correct, Yeah,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: but I think a lot of people.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Have been saying that. I mean Dennis Koalichla, if you
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: remember that, I was just gonna say they put him
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: in like a Turkish prison. He couldn't play.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: He got a cheese sandwich and in three Turkish coffees
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: and was out for like a half a season, and
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: no one could figure out when's the answer coming?
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: When are we gonna know?
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: When's the big Turk back? Don't know?
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they put him like two sandwiches, admitted a murder. Yeah,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: And instead, now we got a guy from the G
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: League to play two years in the G League.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: One guy played.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Three weeks, played two different teams.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: So now let's say you play for the Mountaineers for
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: two years and you think, oh, I'm gonna be an
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: NBA player. You go out, you don't make an NBA team,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: You go to your go to, your play for six years,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: have a good career, come back, come back.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Well, there's some stipulations. The reason, the reason why they
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: said this kid he made less than forty thousand dollars
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and didn't go through the full NBA draft evaluation.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Perry l l Yeah, okay, fine, real quick to continue.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: On last night, so former Mountaineers three and oh on
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: the night, JC didn't play, Carter didn't play. Uh, Javon
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: played a lot, nineteen minutes of action, didn't score, missed
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: his two shots, had three assaists, should have had five,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: guys miss bunnies. Don't appreciate that and need to get
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: those assists numbers up. Played nineteen minutes though he was
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: in there and was plus six in the plus minus.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Thrilled, Happy, good job, Vaugh, Happy for him and Deuce
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: by the way we expect used to.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I mean he's playing well.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, speaking of you mentioned the Turk, Oliver Straw's dad,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you this when I saw Now, No,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know where he is today. Lord knows up
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: in a rocket on Saturday. It's got Turkish coffee. He
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: brought coffee from turk Key with him, gave it to
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Oliver Saturday at the football game. Oliver has it. He
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: brought it back up here, muling it and and I
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: saw Oliver at the building the other day. I said,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: you know, where's that coffee? And he said, I didn't
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: think i'd see it today. So it's at my place.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: But he has Turkish coffee for us. And his dad
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: was explaining how hard it was to move the coffee there.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: You know, that's a tough product to move, well for Westers.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's tough for him for the stuff
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: that he does illegally. Is is an international spy.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: He's not a spy and he doesn't do illegal things.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Well as far as I know. Yeah, anyway, so we
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: got it. We got that coffee.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Are we allowed to have the coffee or not?
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: When Oliver gets it over here?
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's for us, it's not for Oliver.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I've got things going on.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I think it's already it's already ground, So we're gonna
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: have to do a drip with.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I thought the way Oliver kicked the last game, he'd
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: hit that coffee before he was crushing it.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Rich Rich beiggrudgingly on his talk show this week named
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Ali Straw the Park Superstore hardest worker.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Of the Week because he did not watch your punter.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: He said, like exactly, He's like a man. I got
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: name the artist worker of the week away.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: But you know what, it's just when things are so bad,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: you gotta find your little nuggets of joy. That fake
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: punt was fun. It was end of story.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: There.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, for.
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• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Ready, Sure, here comes.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: The healing on the year zero nonsense. I have conceded.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: This is year zero, meaning no amount of losing can
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: get rich fired. That being said, next year is year two,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: meaning if we don't see all capital letters, drastic improvement
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: in talent and wins, it may be time to move
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: off of rich Rod. Losing cannot be tolerated.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look you're not gonna do two years. I mean,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna get fired after two years, and I
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: think this team will be better unless you unless there
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: was some abert like you said, Tony aberration, like if
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: you went Oho to twelve or one in eleven.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: But no, no.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: No, stop stop. This is why I just this is
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: why that doesn't work for whomever wrote this one. If
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: you fire a coach after two years, the pool of
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: candidates that would come and look at your job would
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: be like hoppy, Like that would be it like one
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: guy in one guy applied it was hoppy. That's one.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: That's two the amount of money you would owe in
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: a BIA. So it just doesn't that's not realistic. And
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: you don't worry about it.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: If you if you were, if you were bad enough
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: to fire him, what you're not gonna do, then you'd
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: bring in a coach to an even worse situation. If
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: you could get somebody.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is this is gonna work, This will
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: be fine, just hang in there. Well there's some bumps.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: This will work.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: It's to ba whether it's going to be worked. I
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: think it was gonna work. I think it will. But
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: you don't do you don't do it too your fire.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Hoppy pointed out that West Virginia's injuries are to the
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: best players. I've got no idea the extent of the injuries,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: but I will give them benefit of doubt. With that said,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: when there is a disappointing season, or in this case,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: a season without hope, then the current rules incentivize best
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: players to claim injury. After all, they are the guys
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: that have money on the table next year from WVU
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: or an the school in the NFL. It used to be,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: and I assume still is absent. You're guaranteed money that
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: if you don't play, you don't get paid what we
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: call nil. That is not the case in college. You
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: guys know this stuff better than any of us. Am
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I right or wrong? So I go back to what
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I said earlier. Guys faking an injury or just laying
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: it down. Those NFL scouts are in the building almost
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: every single day of the week. They are constantly, constantly
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: and you know who they talk with. They talk with
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: the trainer, they talk with the weight staff, they talk
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: with the assistant coaches. And let's say, Kerchieval, all of
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: a sudden he's not playing, and they'll say, what about Kerchival?
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: And they'll say, that soft ass, he got no injury
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: and he's laying down. You know what, the NFL guys
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: go okay, off the list. So, guys, I mean despite
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: the fact that you're not winning or that, I mean
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: everyone everything gets put out there. Everyone's known. There are
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: no real secrets once you get inside of the building.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: So it's not really a realistic.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: And talk about a business that cannot afford to make
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: a mistake.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: NFL players get paid when they're injured though, yes, yeah, so,
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: I mean that's that's what they're not paid.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Hey, Brad, let me ask you something real quick. So
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: the line is fifteen and a half, what's the play there?
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: That's a big Home Dog play. You think you think
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: the most is going to come in on that Most
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: of the numbers I've seen so far, it's on TCU.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: That's why that numbers climbed a little bit. But that
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: man that's getting up there, it's wondering that's getting up there.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Joe and Green Ohio Rights. I've been looking forever and
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I finally found them. I picked up a new set
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: of hubcaps from a nineteen seventy four El Camino at
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: episode eight hundred, dot com Right, yeah, there you go,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Jeff and Scott depot. Mama said there'd be days like these.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I was listening to the Coaches show. Rich keeps saying
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: that some of the transfers will be good next year,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: but with it being their first year their learning. My
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: thought is, if it takes two years to understand the system,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: then why take transfers that only have one year of eligibility?
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: And the reason is because in those particular cases, you
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: need an absolute, immediate fix at a particular position. And
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: you know what you just said is correct. You know that, Hey,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I got nothing else here. I'm gonna take a one
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: year flyer on this kid and hope that he produces.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the it's the volumer number of those that
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: you have that starts to get a concern. When that's
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: the bulk of your team, then you get worried. Just
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: last year, just pick one example, and the defense was
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: not good last year.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: But t J.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Jackson, right, gave you one year, had a really good year,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: was your highest grade defensive player. So there are examples
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: where you can be good in the one year. But
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: if it's multiple guys, that's where sometimes it gets challenging.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, Hey, three guys, longtime listener, I'm an
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: infrequent Texter. Two thoughts one Hoppies, I'm not mad, just disappointed.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Dad pose for the photo for episode six sixty seven
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: sums up my feelings for this year's season two. Rich
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Rod saying and he hopes the UCF game is the
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: low point, brought to mind the line from the movie
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Deep Water Horizon, hope ain't a tactic heaven from Arlington Rights,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Why don't you play hoppy song anymore? Copyright issues? I
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: don't even know where it is. I don't even know
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: where it is. That was a nice song.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: You know what the line is on the Wisconsin Oregon game,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Let me get away don't tell where's it.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: It's at Oregon, at Oregon Wisconsin. We'll be favored by
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: twenty one and a half points.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: What I was gonna say, Oregon's favored by thirty one
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: and a half.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Wow, great day to be a duck wherever you may be.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: Thirty one and a half brand and good lord Wisconsin.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: And Luke Fickle got a vote of didn't get a
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: vote competence, which is which is the very thing you
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: get before you get fired.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Bill is a graduate of the university from nineteen sixty
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: and five. So if I'm doing my math correctly, that's
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: thirty five plus twenty five, which is sixty and so
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: you're probably another twenty by the time you graduate eighty.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: So this is a seasoned fan. The TV contracts with
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: the Big Four expire twenty thirty. I suspect that beginning
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: around that time shortly thereafter, it gonna be some serious realignment.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: If schools like West Virginia are no longer relevant, they're
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: going to be left out like wash State and Oregon State.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: So if the school and or large donors are going
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: to contribute and spend money, they'd better do it now.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: I think the next four or five are going to
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: be the most important. If the next four or five
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: are like the last four or five will likely be
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: outside looking in. What do y'all think?
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I think that he's right that the next four or
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: five years are relevant. I don't know what's going to
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: happen with realignment. Who knows, Brad. But what I come
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: back to is I firmly believe WU has the right
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: guy in the right place in Rin Baker to help
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: ensure that you are relevant win and if there's realignment.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're positioning themselves. The one hundred and forty additional
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: scholarships is a massive move in that part. The giving
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: more revshare dollars to football is a big move in that.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: The construction projects that are being talked about, i e.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: The press box at the football stadium will also be
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: a money generator because it's going to bring in a
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: significant number of suites which will generate, you know, potentially
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I think Ren said four or five million dollars in
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: additional revenue every single year. So we're positioned their position,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: it's they're doing the right I think.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Their positioned very well. I mean, I'm not sure you
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: can do things off the field much better than what
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: they're doing, getting everything in place and having the right
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: people in place. That's it. You've got to you got
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: to win. You've got to win. That was part of
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: what West Virginia is, part of their life raft of
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: getting in the Big twelve. It was just the brand
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: was too big to ignore it. You had to have
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: a spot for it. So you've got to get back
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: to winning it. I'm with Bill there. The next four
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: or five years is massively important. Those wins have to follow.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Three guys, can you clarify what will happen with the
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: excess revenue share money from this year? The four million's
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: not added to next year's cap. Rather, it's just four
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: million that isn't tied up to players that you can
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: now spend on others. Correct, you still have to be
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: under whatever the cap is. Surely you can't save excess
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: revshare money from year in a mattress and Ren's backyard
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: and then go on a spending spree.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be careful about this. You guys may maybe
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: no better than I do. I just think that the
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: revsar money you didn't spend you can still spend this year. Yes,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: and then July one starts to do, but you could
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: spend it bread this year because it's it's in this
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: July one, before July one.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Four July one, correct, Ben from Ohia. I said before
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: this season that this would be the ultimate TCU trap game,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: and I predicted a big West Virginia win. I don't
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: feel so strong about that now. Now I have a
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: question for Brad since he's been at a lot of
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: practices and the scrimmage. Is there a former WVU player
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: comp for Brennan Laurient as a defender? Can he guard
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: one through five the way E Banks did? I guess
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: that could could be posed a hoppy as well, since
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: he's basically an assistant.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Coach now thinks funn are you going.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: To go back to basketball practice?
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: I'd like to win this. When is it available?
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: When we go? Not available anymore? No?
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: No?
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, every day except Wednesday.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: That's a that's a good question. E Banks is a
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: pretty good comp right there. I think Toby last year
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: was a good comp in terms of high level athleticism.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: And yeah, that guard one through five? Yeah, you'll see
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: Brendan Bedlow out on the on the perimeter, guarding out
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: there on guards. If he has to, he can go
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: inside block shots, be one of your best shot blockers.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: So yeah, to answer a question, yes, he can guard
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: any position on the floor.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: I keep saying, Calvin Bowman, Am I right? Am I
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: warm at all?
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: And somebody in the department that's been around a long
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: time bring that up the other day. And also just
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: physically looks like Calvin Bowman. Calvin scored probably a little
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: more than below is going to this year, and I
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: think below might be give you a little more on
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: the defensive side maybe, but that's not a terrible comparison either,
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: similar body size.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I like Calvin Moman. Kevin was a good dude, good player.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Take a bunch a great player. I take a bunch
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: of him. Hey, gentlemen. Two thoughts, a question and an observation.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: First thought, what about getting a lou Wendel line of
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: pond toomboats named after you guys. It could be the
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: three G's G three fishing or wild boar hunting boats.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: That'd be good.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I'd be fun. I'll be fine. Second thought, y'all could
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: do a tutor's biscuit eating competition. All you guys talk
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: about is if whether or not people can eat too.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe instead of the bub hot wing challenge. You could
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: do a tutor's biscuit eating challenge. You could, I mean, yeah,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: question I could eat right now. Texter says, what is
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: the status of that special three guys tutors biscuit?
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: How come we haven't been able to We've publicly gone
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: on records saying that we were open for it and
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: we would sign off all of our rights to do that,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: but we have not heard.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: Well we we I'd be careful there, we wouldn't sign
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: off all our rights to.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: We'd say, go ahead and make a biscuit after us.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: That's discussion points there.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Texter observation during Wren's most recent visit to the show,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: was it just me or was the poor buddies forehead
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: glistening like a freshly mopped gym floor on game day?
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Was Ren shiny?
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: He was shiny?
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: He was I didn't recall him being shiny.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: It was shiny, but he's he was also really tan.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I mean he looked good. He had a good look going.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he got I mean he's got big vitamin
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: D and big heavy vitamin D this summer for him.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I didn't remember him being shiny.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: It's a little shiny na a little bit shiny, but
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of nitpicky.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Curtis and Portland had a lot of
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: time on his hand. On a sad note, Mike and
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach writes, we lost for mum Ountain here football
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: player Tom Bowman on Monday, in case you guys had
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: not heard sad news for sure. So he was on
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: the eighty four team my first year here and was
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: a captain, was a captain on that team and passed
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: away and so yeah, absolutely saw that, and our condolences
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: go to the Bowman family. Yep. Okay, So a lot
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: of stuff going on by the way Man's soccer, man's
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: soccer team at nice victory over the old Dominions and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: women's go tonight WVU men hoppy. I mean you you're
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: aware of this because.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: You hired the coach, Dan Stratford.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: We're in a three way tie right now for first place.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: So it's like here we go, still got Marshall, still
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: got Kentucky. Uh, this is thing's gonna come literally down
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: to the final final few off sites. We've got basketball, which.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: The women tonight they're they're rolling the rolling again.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, they're home tonight.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: It's up with Greenee and volleyball.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: She lost a heartbreaker at Colorado last weekend.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Five.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Just doing this, man, it's getting better. It's getting better.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: It's getting better. They're coming home. They got some matches.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: They play tomorrow. I'm almost a hundred percent of they
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: play tomorrow Friday. Yes, they do. They do play Friday
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: at the Coliseum Coliseum Basketball, Hope Coliseum, Hope Coliseum Basketball.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Coming up on four o'clock on Sunday. Football. Obviously, we're
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: going six o'clock and then we'll find out either late
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Saturday night or Sunday what time the game time is
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: for the Houston game. Come on eleven am, Come on noon,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: let's go noon, Let's go new Let's get that done.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Let's get that done on the road. You guys got
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: anything else?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: No homecoming.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: You think our guests enjoyed the show?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: I hope so. I was thinking of you guys good.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Morgan's good, Tanner's good.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: One of them.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: I think Kevin's good.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: I think Morgan dozed off for a few minutes.
• 1:01:32
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  Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, you guys, you guys crushed me.
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  Speaker 1: What when we did the United Way event, and I
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  Speaker 1: did the auction, and I asked the CPAs a question
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  Speaker 1: and they gave me a long answer. I bet you
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  Speaker 1: Kevin would just go, yeah, that's deductible. He would do that.
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  Speaker 1: I had talk ask.
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  Speaker 2: Him, well, ask him right now, yes right? Kevin just
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  Speaker 2: said you don't ask me right, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I'll do it. I'll do it. Okay, here's the scenario.
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  Speaker 1: We're in an auction for the United Way and the
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  Speaker 1: item is a pig, and we auctioned off the pig,
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  Speaker 1: and so I told the person that, since they'll be
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  Speaker 1: paying the dollars to the United Way, that it's tax deductible.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a correct statement? That's correct statement.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he didn't That's not exactly how that conversation
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  Speaker 3: went down.
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  Speaker 1: That he didn't pause, he didn't bat an eye.
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  Speaker 3: It's because that's not how the conversation. Kevin has things
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  Speaker 3: to add, but you won't let him talk now because
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  Speaker 3: there's things that go that go with that. Well, I
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  Speaker 3: would say this, it's not just a blanket. Yes, I
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  Speaker 3: would say this by virtue of him winning the auction.
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  Speaker 3: That's what he just did.
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  Speaker 1: He donated to the United Way of Central West Virginia.
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  Speaker 1: You know Margaret an O'Neill, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, one of our favorites. She's the best favorites.
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  Speaker 1: They donated to be here today to do that, and
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  Speaker 1: I would hope that they'll take the tax deduction, and
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  Speaker 1: if people come to me, I'll be free to offer
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  Speaker 1: tax advice.
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  Speaker 2: That's by the way, when you're auctioning, auctioning, you went,
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  Speaker 3: That is it? I mean, it wasn't right, Red, That's
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  Speaker 3: there was not at all the scenario that unfold.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, seriously, it's been great to have you here. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: As you can see. Guys, it's just unorganized chaos. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Let me just see something.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're out. Sleep