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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to the deep Dive. Today, we're going back way
- 0:03back to a time of just intense fear in Los Angeles.
- 0:07We're talking late seventy seven, early seventy eight.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Yeah, between October nineteen seventy seven and February nineteen seventy eight,
- 0:14it felt like the city was under siege. There was
- 0:16this predator leaving bodies, young women, girls on these brushy hillsides.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Dump naked posed. It seems so random but also chillingly calculated.
- 0:28And everyone, the media, of the public, they thought they
- 0:30knew who.
- 0:30Speaker 2: It was, right, The press jumped on it immediately. The
- 0:33visuals are stark, you know, bodies on hillsides of Boom Hillside,
- 0:36Strangler singular.
- 0:38Speaker 1: That name alone conjures this image, doesn't it One shadowy
- 0:41maybe brilliant monster lurking.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Out there totally, And that perception, while understandable given the
- 0:47absolute terror gripping the city, was just wrong, dead wrong.
- 0:51The panic was real though. Hitchhiking basically stopped overnight.
- 0:54Speaker 1: People were forming a pro groups, right, and the LAPD
- 0:56they threw everything at it, hundreds of officers, a massive investigation,
- 1:00a marathon.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's where we really start our deep dive
- 1:03because the narrative everyone knew it was built on a
- 1:05shocking misconception.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Exactly. The biggest twist, the sort of core deception here
- 1:11is that it wasn't one killer, it wasn't the strangler,
- 1:14it was the.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Stranglers, two of them working together, adoptive cousins, Angelo Buono
- 1:19Junior and Kenneth Bianki.
- 1:21Speaker 1: And that's our mission today. We want to peel back
- 1:23the layers on this duality, go beyond the headlines.
- 1:26Speaker 2: We're going to look at their really twisted partnership, how
- 1:29their methods evolved over those ten La murders, plus the
- 1:32two Bianchi did later alone up in Washington and.
- 1:35Speaker 1: The investigation, which was incredibly complex, almost fell apart. And critically,
- 1:40we're also digging into this almost unbelievable true story the
- 1:44one woman they let go, Yeah.
- 1:46Speaker 2: The one who got away because of well, a very
- 1:48strange kind of shield. It's quite a story.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Okay. So to really get this spree, you have to
- 1:53understand the guys involved, Bueno and Bianchi, and the source
- 1:56material makes it pretty clear. Bruno, the older cousin, he
- 2:00was kind of the anchor, right, the controlling one.
- 2:02Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, Angela Borno junior. He was the senior partner,
- 2:05definitely the more dominant, volatile personality. Born in thirty four
- 2:09upstate New York, but moved to Glendale, California when he
- 2:13was just a little kid.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Like five. And his personality, what was driving him?
- 2:16Speaker 2: Well, he dropped out of high school, but he was
- 2:18obsessed with appearing powerful successful. He ran this auto upholstery shop,
- 2:25seven oh three East Colorado Street, and it was legit successful.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Even so, that was his cover, the shock.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Exactly his cover, his money maker, and crucially his base
- 2:35of operations. That seemingly ordinary shop he hit a.
- 2:38Speaker 1: Lot, became the stage for unimaginable horror. Right, what about
- 2:42his attitude, his misogyny? Where did that come from?
- 2:45Speaker 2: People who knew him talked about his temper, his deep
- 2:48seated hatred of women. But what's really fascinating, and the
- 2:51research points this out, is who he looked up to.
- 2:53Carol Chessman, the.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Infamous serial rapist from what the.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Fifties, yeah, like twenty years earlier. Chessman also posed as
- 2:59a cops times. Wana didn't just admire the violence, he
- 3:02seemed to admire Chessman's ability to kind of manipulate the system.
- 3:05The media.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Interesting. So he's building this public persona.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Right swaggering ladies man on the surface, but underneath, he's
- 3:12praying on vulnerable people. He was pimping women, teenage runaways
- 3:16mostly long before the murder start. Is like this small
- 3:20time criminal thing built on control and violence.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Okay, so that's Bueno. Then comes Kenneth Bianci, much younger,
- 3:28born in fifty one. How does a guy seventeen years
- 3:31younger get pulled into something this dark?
- 3:33Speaker 2: Well they were adoptive cousins. Bueno's ant adopted Bianchi and Beyonci.
- 3:38He seemed to grow up feeling, I don't know, inadequate.
- 3:40He developed this really destructive habit. He was a compulsive liar,
- 3:45like pathologically.
- 3:46Speaker 1: So always trying to seem like something he wasn't.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Exactly, faking psychological problems, stuff like that. And here's the
- 3:52key thing that made him maybe the perfect accomplice for Borno.
- 3:56Speaker 1: He was obsessed with law enforce a classic wannabe cop thing.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Yeah, that chilling contradiction. He craved the authority he couldn't
- 4:02actually earn. So nineteen seventy six, he's twenty six, moves
- 4:06from Rochester.
- 4:06Speaker 1: To la and he's impressed by Bueno.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Totally dazzled. Buono had the flashy car, the house with
- 4:11the Italian flag, this whole manufactured image of success and
- 4:16you know, control. Bianchi just kind of fell into line.
- 4:19He was the junior partner, totally manipulated by Bruno, desperate
- 4:23for his approval.
- 4:24Speaker 1: So first it's pimping. They're forcing runaways, Sabra Hannan Baky
- 4:28Spears into prostitution. Would push it over the edge from exploitation.
- 4:33Speaker 2: To murder control. It always seems to come back to
- 4:36control with Bueno. The sources suggest the big catalyst was
- 4:40when those two girls handed and spears, they escaped, They got.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Away, and Bueno couldn't handle that.
- 4:45Speaker 2: It wasn't just anger, It was like this massive ego blow.
- 4:48His property had defied him. For Buono, losing control was unacceptable,
- 4:52So the goal shifted. It wasn't just about exploitation anymore.
- 4:55Speaker 1: It became about ultimate control, absolute subjugation.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Death exactly. And that's when and their killing methodology really
- 5:02took shape. It combined Buono's need for authority with Biyanki's
- 5:05cop fixation.
- 5:06Speaker 1: The fake badges.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Yep, Bianci knew enough about police procedure to make it convincing.
- 5:11They'd pose as undercover cops, pull women over, approach them,
- 5:15say it was an official investigation. That was the lure.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Get them into the car, Bueno's Cadillac.
- 5:21Speaker 2: Or the VAM right, and once they were inside, they
- 5:24were taken back to the shop, to Buono's upholstery place.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Let's talk about that chat for a second, because it's
- 5:29so central.
- 5:30Speaker 2: It really was the perfect place for them. Big probably
- 5:33noisy anyway with machinery, but BRNO had built this lake
- 5:37false wall, created a hidden space behind it, and it
- 5:40was soundproof. Critically, yes, the sources confirm it was soundproof.
- 5:44Total privacy. That's what allowed them to do what they did,
- 5:48the prolonged torture, the rapes, saw toomy, the electric shocks,
- 5:52and then the strangulations without anyone hearing a thing. It
- 5:55was their own little chamber of horrors.
- 5:57Speaker 1: What really hits you about the Hillside stranglers, I think
- 5:59is just how it all happened. It wasn't drawn out
- 6:02over years. It was this intense four month blitz October
- 6:06seventy seven to February seventy eight.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Yeah, a concentrated rain of terror and the methods, the violence.
- 6:12It wasn't static. You can see this awful, evolving, experimental
- 6:17kind of pathology.
- 6:18Speaker 1: It was incredibly sadistic, wasn't it. The sources are pretty graphic.
- 6:21Speaker 2: Aar ligature strangulation usually rope records. That was the constant,
- 6:25the signature way they killed. But the torture before that
- 6:29shows this chilling experimentation, pushing boundaries in that soundproof room.
- 6:33Speaker 1: What kind of experiments were we talking about? It sounds
- 6:35like it went way beyond just physical assault.
- 6:37Speaker 2: Oh, it did really disturbing stuff. They tried injecting victims
- 6:41with cleaning fluids.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Like windex wind decks.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Why it seems like it was less about efficient killing
- 6:47and more about introducing this bizarre, agonizing chemical shock, pure sadism.
- 6:53Than there were the electric shocks.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Right connecting wires, leaving burn.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Marks, Yeah, distinct burn marks which later became really important
- 7:01forensic evidence. And they even played around with different ways
- 7:04to suffocate victim's carbon monoxide from a car, exhaust gas
- 7:07from a stove. They were constantly seeking new ways to
- 7:10control that life and death moment.
- 7:12Speaker 1: And after all that, the final act dumping the body.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Which was their big screw you to the city, to
- 7:19the police, they'd washed the bodies first, trying to remove
- 7:21surface evidence shows calculation, right. Then they'd drive them out
- 7:24to those hillsides, often near freeways, sometimes even near police stations,
- 7:29left naked, pose crudely. It was a deliberate signature, designed
- 7:33to terrify, grab headlines, and just insult authority.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Let's talk about the victims, because the media initially tried
- 7:40to put them in a box. Maybe, but the reality
- 7:42is Buano and Bianchi's target spanned a really wide and
- 7:46terrifying range.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to remember the human beings here. It started,
- 7:50maybe predictably, with vulnerable women. The first official victim Yolanda
- 7:54Washington nineteen. She was a sex worker. They lured her
- 7:58with that fake police bust in October seventy seven, found
- 8:01near the Venturer Freeway.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Then Judithan Miller only fifteen, a runaway, also working the streets,
- 8:07abducted on Halloween.
- 8:08Speaker 2: So initially, yeah, targeting those who might not be miss immediately,
- 8:11people on the margins.
- 8:12Speaker 1: But that didn't last long. Within weeks, they pivoted started
- 8:16targeting women from the general population, shattering any illusion that
- 8:20only certain people were at risk.
- 8:21Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's when the real panic set in. Think about
- 8:24Alyssa Lissa Kasten, twenty one, a dancer waitress, pulled over
- 8:30near her home, just driving alone. They were actively hunting.
- 8:34Speaker 1: And the case that just terrified everyone.
- 8:36Speaker 2: The two young girls, Delora Sepita just twelve and her
- 8:40friend Sonda Johnson, fourteen, mid November seventy seven, abducted from
- 8:45Eagle Rock Plaza. They missed their bus. These were schoolgirls,
- 8:48no connection to prostitution, nothing like that, clear family ties.
- 8:52Speaker 1: That must have sent absolute shock waves through La. The
- 8:55idea that it could be anyone, any young woman or girl.
- 8:58Speaker 2: It changed everything. That's when parents really started locking down,
- 9:01keeping daughters home. Neighborhood patrols started popping up. The killers
- 9:04proved they could take anyone anywhere. Maximum terror achieved and.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Even as the methods got weirder, they were still leaving traces,
- 9:11weren't they. Forensics started to play.
- 9:13Speaker 2: A huge role, hugely important. The case of Christina Weckler,
- 9:16twenty years old, an art student, and chillingly, she was
- 9:20actually Bianki's neighbor.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Wow.
- 9:23Speaker 2: She was one of the victims injected with windex, but
- 9:26forensics found these tiny specific fibers on her.
- 9:29Speaker 1: Body, fibers from where they.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Were later matched definitively to the specific kind of automotive
- 9:35upholstery materials and carpets inside Bueno's shop from that soundproof room.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Incredible connecting a victim found elsewhere directly back to that
- 9:44specific hidden location through microscopic evidence.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Yeah, in seventy eight, that kind of fiber analysis was
- 9:49pretty cutting edge. It was a massive break, even if
- 9:52they didn't fully realize its significance.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Right away, and the torture methods left there on physical
- 9:56evidence too, right like the burn marks on Lauren.
- 9:59Speaker 2: Ray Wagner yep Lornwadner, eighteen business student abducted right outside
- 10:03her home in the valley, Burns on her palms from
- 10:05the electrocution, direct evidence of the sadistic stuff happening.
- 10:08Speaker 1: In the shop. This spree finally ended, at least in
- 10:11La with Cindy Lee Hutsmith in February seventy eight. Her
- 10:14body was found in the trunk of her own car.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Uh huh, and in silence the body stopped appearing in La.
- 10:20But the killing impulse, as we find out, didn't stop,
- 10:23It just moved. What broke up the partnership.
- 10:26Speaker 1: It came down to Bueno's paranoia really yea operational security. Biyanchi,
- 10:31trying to live out his cop fantasy, did a civilian
- 10:34ride along with the lapd.
- 10:36Speaker 2: Oh seriously while they were actively killing people. Yeah, and
- 10:40he apparently mentioned, maybe just casually, that he'd been questioned
- 10:44by some officers during that ride.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Along, and Bueno found out.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bueno freaked. He saw Biyanci as this huge liability,
- 10:51someone who could bring the whole thing crashing down. He
- 10:54basically threatened to kill Bianci if he didn't get.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Out of town protecting the operation. Not because he suddenly
- 10:58grew a conscience.
- 11:00Speaker 2: All it was pure self preservation. So that's what sends
- 11:03BEYONCEI packing May nineteen seventy eight. He takes his girlfriend,
- 11:07his son and heads north to Bellingham, Washington.
- 11:10Speaker 1: The partnership dissolves, but one of the predators is just relocated.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm amidst all this horror, this relentless killing,
- 11:17there's this one story that just completely breaks the mold.
- 11:21It gives us this, I mean, almost unbelievable window into
- 11:24how these guys thought.
- 11:25Speaker 1: Catherine laur Baker the one who walked away, And it
- 11:30wasn't mercy, was it. It sounds like pure cold calculation.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Absolutely not mercy. This happened late seventy seven, right in
- 11:37the middle of their killing spree, when they were operating
- 11:40with like total confidence. They're cruising around Hollywood, spot her
- 11:44Catherine Laur Baker twenty five, walking alone.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Same routine, fake badge, force her into the car.
- 11:51Speaker 2: YEP, standard procedure for them. She's in the car, she's trapped,
- 11:54completely vulnerable, But.
- 11:55Speaker 1: Then she shows them her ID and the sources say
- 11:59they just froze.
- 12:00Speaker 2: What happens The second they saw that name, Catherine Laura Baker,
- 12:03it clicked. This wasn't just some random person they could
- 12:06make disappear without immediate massive attention, because she was Peter
- 12:10Laura's daughter.
- 12:11Speaker 1: Peter Lourie from Casablanca m the legendary actor.
- 12:14Speaker 2: The one and only, and it turns out Bono and
- 12:16Bianci were actually fans of his movies. Suddenly the dynamic
- 12:20shifts completely, the name, the fame associated with it. It
- 12:23acted like this instant shield that's surreal.
- 12:27Speaker 1: One minute their predator is about to torture and kill,
- 12:29the next their starstruck fans.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Bizarre right, they started chatting about her dad's films, asking
- 12:35for autographs apparently, but beneath that, you know, Bono's mind.
- 12:39Speaker 1: Is racing, calculating the risk immediately.
- 12:42Speaker 2: Kidnapping Peter Laura's daughter. That wouldn't be like the other
- 12:46case of the slow investigation's confusion. This would be international news,
- 12:50instant overwhelming heat on them, on the shop everything.
- 12:53Speaker 1: The risk was just too high. It would blow their
- 12:55whole operation way too high.
- 12:56Speaker 2: They couldn't control that kind of attention. So they let
- 12:59her go completely unharmed.
- 13:01Speaker 1: And initially she didn't even realize how close she'd come.
- 13:04She thought they were just weird fans.
- 13:05Speaker 2: Yeah, she apparently just brushed it off as some overly enthusiastic,
- 13:09kind of creepy fans of her dad. Didn't report it.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Right away, When did the penny drop?
- 13:14Speaker 2: Months later, when Borno and Bianki's mugshots finally hit the
- 13:18news after Bianki's arrest in Washington, she saw their faces
- 13:21and instantly recognized them the strange guys who cornered her, and.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Her testimony became crucial, later absolutely critical.
- 13:30Speaker 2: At Borno's trial, she confirmed their method, the fake BADG routine,
- 13:34and she described that moment they realized who she was.
- 13:37Her exact words in court were something like they were
- 13:40thrilled it saved my life.
- 13:42Speaker 1: Just an incredible story of survival based purely on calculation.
- 13:45But her life story has a sad footnote, doesn't it.
- 13:49Speaker 2: It does tragically, she apparently struggled quite a bit with alcohol,
- 13:53maybe living in her famous father's shadow. She died quite young,
- 13:56only thirty two, back in nineteen eighty five, from health
- 13:58complications related to diabetes.
- 14:00Speaker 1: But she remains the only person known to have been
- 14:03in their clutches together and walked away alive.
- 14:07Speaker 2: A key witness, and her survival really underscores something important.
- 14:12These guys weren't just mindless killing machines. They were predators, yes,
- 14:15but highly calculating ones who responded very specifically to perceived risk.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Okay, so Bianki flees La ends up in Bellingham, Washington.
- 14:23The partnership with Boono is over, but the compulsion that
- 14:26urge it's still there, definitely not gone.
- 14:29Speaker 2: He tries to maintain this normal facade, gets a job
- 14:32as a security guard, and he's still chasing that law
- 14:34enforcement dream. Applies to the Bellingham Police Department, gets rejected, thankfully.
- 14:39Speaker 1: But the pressure is building, and in January nineteen seventy nine,
- 14:42he acts alone.
- 14:43Speaker 2: He does January eleventh, he lures two young women students
- 14:47from Western Washington University, Karen Mandick twenty two and Diane
- 14:51Wilder twenty seven.
- 14:52Speaker 1: How did he lure them?
- 14:54Speaker 2: Not the cop routine this time, no different approach, but
- 14:56same principle deception. He posted an ad or somehow offered
- 15:00them a fake house sitting job, got them to a
- 15:02vacant house, the same horrific pattern, rape and strangulation. But
- 15:07BIYONCEI operating solo, he was way less careful than Warno.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Yeah, the cops caught him almost immediately, didn't they? What
- 15:12were the mistakes?
- 15:13Speaker 2: He was arrested the very next day. It was almost
- 15:15embarrassingly quick. First, his car still had California plates, big
- 15:19red flag up in Washington, Okay. Second, investigators found stuff
- 15:22on him or in his place, jewelry, other items that
- 15:25were quickly linked back to victims in Los Angeles. Connected
- 15:28him straight to the Hillside strangler case down south.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Wow. And there was physical evidence at the scene too.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Yep. The clincher, a pubic hair, found that the murder
- 15:37scene was matched directly back to Biyanci. It wasn't some
- 15:40complex deduction, it was just connecting pretty obvious dots very quickly.
- 15:45Speaker 1: So he's caught facing murder charges in Washington, possibly the
- 15:50death penalty, and he tries to play a card he's
- 15:52maybe used before, the mental health angle exactly.
- 15:55Speaker 2: He digs into his history of faking things and tries
- 15:58this multiple personality disorder defense MPD as it was often
- 16:04called then. It was kind of a hot topic legally
- 16:06and psychologically at the time.
- 16:08Speaker 1: So he claimed he wasn't responsible.
- 16:10Speaker 2: Right, He invented this alter ego. Steve Walker claimed Steve
- 16:14was the one who did the killings and not Ken Bianki.
- 16:16He'd even do these dramatic shifts in personality during interrogations
- 16:20trying to sell it.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Did it work even for a little while.
- 16:22Speaker 2: It caused confusion? Definitely. The defense hoped they could argue insanity,
- 16:27you know, that he wasn't in control, But forensic psychiatrists.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Took a hard luck and they saw through it.
- 16:32Speaker 2: Yeah. They basically concluded it was a performance. The personalities
- 16:35were too convenient, too focused on avoiding guilt, didn't match
- 16:38the patterns of genuine MPD, so the ruse failed. Facing execution,
- 16:43Bianki realized he had only one card left.
- 16:45Speaker 1: To play testify against Bueno.
- 16:47Speaker 2: Exactly, the plea deal. It was huge. Plead guilty to
- 16:51the two Bellingham murders, plead guilty to five of the
- 16:53LA killings, not all ten notably, and testify against Angelo
- 16:57Bueno in exchange washing wouldn't seek the death penalty.
- 17:01Speaker 1: He saves his own life. But the whole LA case
- 17:04against Buono now rests on the word of well, a
- 17:07proven pathological liar.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Precisely, it's a massive gamble for the prosecution. LAPD detectives
- 17:12Frank Salerno and Bob Grogan, who had been working the
- 17:15LA si relentlessly, they fly up to Washington. Bianki's information,
- 17:19combined with the evidence they.
- 17:20Speaker 1: Already had, the vibers, the tire track.
- 17:22Speaker 2: Catherin Laura Baker's testimony about seeing both of them, it
- 17:25was finally enough. They arrest Bulono October twenty second, in
- 17:28nineteen seventy nine, right at the upholstery shop.
- 17:31Speaker 1: But getting Bueno arrested is one thing. Convicting him with
- 17:34Bianchi as your star witness, that turned into a nightmare.
- 17:36Speaker 2: Oh, a total circus. Bianchi's testimony, even in pre trial hearings,
- 17:41was all over the place. He changed details, contradicted himself constantly.
- 17:46At one point He even claimed his confession about Buono
- 17:49as fake, something implanted under hypnosis.
- 17:52Speaker 1: He's actively sabotaging the prosecution's case while on the stamp.
- 17:55Speaker 2: Pretty much. It got so bad that the LA prosecutors
- 17:58seriously considered drop all charges against Bruno. They were terrified
- 18:03Bianki's unreliability would let Buono walk free.
- 18:05Speaker 1: Imagine that a known killer potentially getting off because their
- 18:09star witness is destroying his own credibility. That's intense, huge
- 18:13legal drama.
- 18:14Speaker 2: But the judge, Ronald M. George, he stepped in. He
- 18:17refused to let them drop the case. He insisted the
- 18:20trial go forward.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Why. What was his reasoning?
- 18:22Speaker 2: He basically felt the other evidence, the physical stuff, the fibers,
- 18:26the tire tracks, the other witnesses like Laura Baker, was
- 18:28strong enough on its own. He believed jury deserved to
- 18:31hear it all and make the call, even with the
- 18:33risk Bianki posed. It was a gutsy move.
- 18:36Speaker 1: And that decision led to one of the longest, most
- 18:38complex trials in US history at that.
- 18:40Speaker 2: Point, absolutely stagger It ran for two solid years, November
- 18:46eighty one to November eighty three. Think about that, four
- 18:50hundred witnesses testified, they had eighteen hundred exhibits.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Wow.
- 18:53Speaker 2: The cost was estimated at over two million dollars, which
- 18:56is just astronomical back then for a single trial. Bono's
- 18:59defense fought hard trying to paint him as the victim
- 19:02framed by this lying cousin.
- 19:04Speaker 1: But the physical evidence held up.
- 19:06Speaker 2: It did, especially those fibers linking him directly to that
- 19:09hidden room in his shop and Lord Baker's testimony about
- 19:12seeing them working together. It was just too much to overcome,
- 19:14even with Biyanki's chaos.
- 19:16Speaker 1: So after two years, the verdict.
- 19:18Speaker 2: October twenty first, nineteen eighty three, Angelo Bono Junior guilty
- 19:22convicted on nine counts of murder. Interestingly, the jury took
- 19:25ten days just to decide on guilt shows you how
- 19:27complicated Bianchi.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Made things with the sentencing phase.
- 19:30Speaker 2: One hour life without parole, no hesitation. One juror famously
- 19:34said death would be too good for him. Captures the
- 19:37feeling I think.
- 19:38Speaker 1: And Bianki his deal held.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Yep, he got his life sentence, but Judge George, clearly
- 19:43disgusted by Bianki's lies and manipulations throughout the trial, made
- 19:47a point of ordering him sent to Walla Walla Penitentiary
- 19:50in Washington, a much tougher maximum security prison.
- 19:53Speaker 1: What happened to them in the long run?
- 19:55Speaker 2: Borno died in prison heart attack in two thousand and two.
- 19:57He was sixty seven, died alone his cell at Calpatriot
- 20:01State Prison.
- 20:02Speaker 1: And Beyoncey still alive.
- 20:03Speaker 2: He's seventy four now, still locked up in Walla, Walla.
- 20:06He actually legally changed his name in twenty twenty three
- 20:09to Anthony Dematto. Seriously, he keeps getting denied parole eight
- 20:12times so far, files appeals, they get rejected. His next
- 20:16parole hearing isn't until twenty thirty five. So justice was
- 20:19served eventually. But man, the costs and the complexity were
- 20:22just immense.
- 20:23Speaker 1: When you look back at this whole case, the Hillside
- 20:25strangler investigation, it really did change things, didn't it, Especially
- 20:29in terms of how crimes were investigating.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, It became this landmark case for forensic science,
- 20:34pushing it right into the spotlight. You really can't overstate
- 20:37the impact of that fiber evidence, matching.
- 20:39Speaker 1: Those tiny microscopic fibers from Buenos shop to victims found
- 20:43miles away exactly.
- 20:45Speaker 2: It showed how crucial trace evidence could be, even if
- 20:48you clean up a primary crime scene. The environment itself
- 20:51sheds evidence. It proved you could link a suspect definitively
- 20:55to a hidden location, not just proximity.
- 20:58Speaker 1: That was huge back then, things too.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Tire treads, Yeah, matching tire treads became more refined, and
- 21:03the whole ordeal highlighted just how vital it was for
- 21:07different police departments, even across state lines like California and Washington,
- 21:11to communicate and cooperate effectively. Lessons were definitely learned.
- 21:15Speaker 1: The technical side is fascinating, for sure, but the real
- 21:18legacy it has to be about the victims, right the
- 21:20twelve women whose lives were just stolen. The media label
- 21:23bodies on a hill is so dehumanizing, it.
- 21:26Speaker 2: Really is, and we have to consciously shift focus back
- 21:28to them. They weren't just data points in a case file.
- 21:31Yolanda Washington dreaming of a different life, Lissa Casten, the dancer,
- 21:35Christina Weckler, the quiet art student, Bianci lived near, Lauren Wagner,
- 21:39the business student.
- 21:40Speaker 1: The young girls Dolores Sipita and Sanja Johnson, whose murders
- 21:45terrified families everywhere, and Karen Mandick and Diane Wilder up
- 21:49in Washington, just college students looking for a job.
- 21:52Speaker 2: They all had futures, families, friends. As one victim advocate
- 21:56put it so well, they were daughters, sisters, friends, not
- 21:59just on a hill. This whole case, this deep dive,
- 22:03it just underscores how calculated and indiscriminate their cruelty really was.
- 22:09Speaker 1: They targeted based on opportunity, vulnerability, the perceived chance of
- 22:13getting away with it, not because of who the victims
- 22:16were as people exactly.
- 22:17Speaker 2: And the families left with this unimaginable grief, made even
- 22:20worse by the horrific details that came out.
- 22:23Speaker 1: It was four months of terror for La followed by
- 22:25years of this incredibly difficult legal battle, a testament really
- 22:29to the detectives and prosecutors who stuck with it against
- 22:31some pretty crazy odds.
- 22:33Speaker 2: Yeah, and it brings us back to those strange moments
- 22:34of calculation. We talked about the survivors, so.
- 22:37Speaker 1: Thinking about what this all means, maybe for you listening.
- 22:40We talked about Catherine laur Baker being spared why because
- 22:44Bono and Bianchi feared the fame, the instant high profile
- 22:48attention her father's name would bring.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Right pure risk assessment, But the sources also mentioned something
- 22:53else another weird calculation with Bianci later on his girlfriend
- 22:57at the time he was arrested in Washington, Kellison. She
- 23:01survived his solo spree. Why her Apparently, Bianki told investigators
- 23:05he didn't harm her because he was afraid of hurting
- 23:07her parents. He liked them, didn't want to face their
- 23:10disapproval or anger.
- 23:11Speaker 1: Okay, wow, so that's the final thought we want to
- 23:13leave you with. Put those two stories side by side.
- 23:16Catherine Lorbaker walks because they fear the big external consequences
- 23:21the media, the police, attention from a celebrity connection.
- 23:25Speaker 2: And Cheryl Kellison is spared because Bianki, acting alone, apparently
- 23:29feared the much more personal, localized consequence disappointing people he knew,
- 23:33her parents.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Both women survived not because of any shred of mercy,
- 23:38but because of the killers very specific, very narrow fears,
- 23:42fear of institutional blowback in one case, fear of personal
- 23:45social fallout in the other.
- 23:47Speaker 2: So what does that tell you about the limits, the
- 23:49strange boundaries that guide even the most monstrous people. It
- 23:53suggests that even predators like Bruno and Bianchi are ultimately
- 23:56constrained not by morality but by what specific content sequences
- 24:00they personally are most afraid of.
- 24:03Speaker 1: A chilling thought to end on. Thanks for joining us
- 24:04on this deep dive