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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, February 3 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February third. This is Jaguars Happy Hour
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Speaker 1: and now a guy who will fight your name to
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Speaker 1: retain the name, Commander J. P. Chad Rick. Welcome on.
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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday afternoon and a
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Speaker 1: busy show ahead. Well there's really no new news yet,
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Speaker 1: but here's what's coming up. Jaguars analyst Jeff Lagerman's coming up.
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen him in a few weeks. Jaguars continue
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Speaker 1: the coaching search. There are rumors and reports will get
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Speaker 1: to some of those will take a look at the
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Speaker 1: NFL head coach Tracker, teams that have hired and the
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Speaker 1: teams that have yet to hire head coaches. The Jaguars
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Speaker 1: interview tracker as well, names that they have interviewed and
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Speaker 1: um maybe are currently who knows, well, look at that
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Speaker 1: coming up? Well, of course, go around the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: A busy offseason already around the league. Newsworthy and it's
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Speaker 1: not even the Super Bowl yet. Jeff Loggingman with us
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Speaker 1: now Jaguars analysts, Good afternoon, what's up, Logs, Good afternoon.
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Speaker 1: Haven't seen you in about what three or four weeks
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Speaker 1: something like that. Hasn't been that well it's been a
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Speaker 1: hot minute. Was it the season? Yeah, I guess it was.
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Speaker 1: It was last week, so that would be I was
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Speaker 1: on vacation last week, JP. Yeah, well good and rightly
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Speaker 1: so yeah, no, it was good. Uh had a little
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Speaker 1: trip to the mountains of Tennessee and I got to
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Speaker 1: see what the smoky mountain drawl about. So it was
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Speaker 1: a great vacation, great getaway. Thought for sure that the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars would have a head coach hired by then, but not. Well,
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Speaker 1: the reports where they were close, and then they weren't,
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Speaker 1: and maybe they're close again, but who knows. We have
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Speaker 1: not seen the white smoke out of the chimney yet.
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Speaker 1: I really believed that this this job last year was
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Speaker 1: the most attractive in the National Football League. You had
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Speaker 1: a first overall draft pick, with the possibility of drafting
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. You had a team that was flush with
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Speaker 1: cap room, that had plenty, I mean, a full array
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Speaker 1: of draft picks. And then Urban Meyer is hired, and
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Speaker 1: I really believe that this could have been the number
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Speaker 1: one most attractive job as well this year, and for
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Speaker 1: whatever reason, it hasn't been that. And you can point
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Speaker 1: to a lot of different things, but the fact of
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Speaker 1: the matter is is that five openings have been filled
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Speaker 1: before this one has been filled. And if this was
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Speaker 1: the number one attractive job, then people would have been
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Speaker 1: holding out hope to get this job at some point.
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Speaker 1: And so here it is. You know that there's there's
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Speaker 1: four openings left. This team is is one of them,
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Speaker 1: and uh, we're still kind of waiting to see what's
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Speaker 1: gonna happen. And I think that's a very curious situation
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Speaker 1: to go from from last year this being the hot
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Speaker 1: job to take and and the number one job to
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Speaker 1: take where it could have been this year, and then
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here we are in this hiring cycle.
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Speaker 1: And you know that that that brings more questions into
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Speaker 1: the equation. By the way, we're right at fifty days
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Speaker 1: since Ervin Maya was fired seven weeks, you know, so
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Speaker 1: you have a head start on a lot of teams,
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Speaker 1: which which also should have been able to give you
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Speaker 1: an edge in the evaluation of your of your coaching search.
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Speaker 1: And and look, I'm all about getting it right. So
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Speaker 1: if if making it take longer means getting it right,
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Speaker 1: I'm all for it. But I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: times if you're not making the right decision in an
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Speaker 1: expedient manner. I think it hampers a lot of other
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Speaker 1: things that you would try to do as an organization
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Speaker 1: with the subsequent hirings after your head coach is hired.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the NFL head coach tracker.
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Speaker 1: As you said, Logs, five teams have hired coaches that well,
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Speaker 1: four officially. One is coming officially after the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: Matt ebra Flus is going to the Bears, Made Hackett
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Speaker 1: to the Broncos, Josh McDaniels to the Raiders, Brian Dable
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Speaker 1: to the Giants, and then after the Super Bowl has done,
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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell has an agreement apparently with the Vikings will
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Speaker 1: make that official by rule after the day after most
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Speaker 1: likely the Super Bowl. Four teams open, of course, the Jags,
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Speaker 1: the Saints, the Texans, and the Dolphins are remaining. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and then the Texans job. I think that there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of questions about that one. It was reported today
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Speaker 1: they're down to three finalists for that gig, by the way,
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Speaker 1: and then the Saints. I mean that was something that
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Speaker 1: kind of came out of left field with the retirement,
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Speaker 1: and uh so, I don't know what's going to happen there.
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Speaker 1: The Dolphins, I think also has you know, these are
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Speaker 1: curious situations that remain. And and the reason I say
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Speaker 1: that is that you the all the openings that you
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Speaker 1: looked at. For the most part, with the Giants, the Vikings,
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Speaker 1: the Raiders, the Broncos, the Bears, for the most part,
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Speaker 1: it was kind of a hiring GM and coach. I
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Speaker 1: think the one thing that was a little bit different
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Speaker 1: was the Denver Broncos situation because Patton was hired I
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Speaker 1: believe after Vic Fangio was was hired. So but for
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Speaker 1: the most part, you've you've brought two guys in together.
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Speaker 1: And so with the Dolphins, the Jaguars, and the Saints
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Speaker 1: and the Texans, there's existing personnel guys that are already there.
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Speaker 1: And could that be a hindrance to some people maybe,
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Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of times there's not a
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Speaker 1: relationship with what may be viewed as a top candidate
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Speaker 1: with the person that is in personnel. So a lot
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Speaker 1: of times when they are hired together, they're they're kind
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Speaker 1: of joined at the hip and some in in some
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Speaker 1: respect just like you know what they've called well and
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Speaker 1: Gus Bradley, when when they were hired. It was kind
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Speaker 1: of okay, these two guys are together for the most part.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the Jaguars interview tracker via
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Speaker 1: NFL dot com and they have listed all of the
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Speaker 1: reported names that have interviewed with the Jags. There's a
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Speaker 1: long list for the Jaguars. By the way, we mentioned
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Speaker 1: some of those earlier have already gone on to other gigs.
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Speaker 1: Era Fluce Hackett, Kevin O'Connell is depending higher by the Vikings,
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Speaker 1: and you know some of these other names. Dan Quinn
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Speaker 1: was at least in touch with the Jags, but then
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Speaker 1: decided to remain the Cowboys defensive coordinator. Some of these
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Speaker 1: guys got second interviews, some did not, But it did
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Speaker 1: feel like there was a report this past week that
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars were putting in to talk to Kevin O'Connell,
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Speaker 1: but then they had to wait until after the Super Bowl. Well,
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Speaker 1: now O'Connell's been hired. That was like they had to
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Speaker 1: wait after the Super Bowl because they didn't have a
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Speaker 1: first first interview in that window they didn't have it.
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Speaker 1: But since he is now, by the way, real quick,
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Speaker 1: by the way, that if that were the case, if
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Speaker 1: you tried to interview Kevin O'Connell, and you weren't aware
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Speaker 1: of the rules of not having the first interview, then,
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Speaker 1: than shame on you for not knowing the rule correct.
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Speaker 1: That was the latest name to be added to the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars list, I believe the last name. So since he's
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Speaker 1: been hired, I mean, I don't think there's any more
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Speaker 1: dark horse candidates coming out. You would think at this point,
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe there are, but it's kind of
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Speaker 1: it goes going back to the names that we've seen
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Speaker 1: reported the last couple of weeks, guys like Leftwitch and Peterson,
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Speaker 1: And I think, first of all, both of those would
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Speaker 1: be tremendous candidates. I think Doug Peterson, super Bowl winner,
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Speaker 1: proven guy, Byron Leftwich has got a link to the franchise.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure about the reports that he
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Speaker 1: wanted to have Adrian Wilson in as general manager. Now,
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Speaker 1: could there be a dark horse candidate? I say absolutely.
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Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is that a lot
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Speaker 1: of the teams in this head coaching hiring process have
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Speaker 1: been very transparent and that Okay, hey, we interviewed, they
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Speaker 1: put on Twitter, we interviewed so and so, and uh
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Speaker 1: and tomorrow we're interviewing, so and so there hasn't been
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Speaker 1: any of that with the Jaguars that there. It's been
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Speaker 1: very secretive in some respects. And so when you say
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Speaker 1: there are no dark horse candidates anymore, who the hell knows? Right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't really know. I mean what the
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Speaker 1: list of the interview list that that we compiled there,
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Speaker 1: that that com compiled NFL dot com. I mean, we
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Speaker 1: didn't put that list Togo. I mean, that's what they're speculating.
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Speaker 1: But none of that has been quote unquote confirmed. So
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Speaker 1: you know, so I I could there be a dark
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Speaker 1: horse Canada, Sure could be. Is it likely? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's right, say no chance, but there's
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Speaker 1: always a hey, look from unless you're sitting in the
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Speaker 1: room with them. You know that movie Dumb and Dumber.
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Speaker 1: So you're saying there's a chance, which one of the
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Speaker 1: greatest lines ever. So that's where we stand. I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's and to your point, was February three, right, there's
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Speaker 1: only four teams remaining. Two hire coaches. These other staffs
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Speaker 1: are already starting to come together around the new head coaches.
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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, even Kevin O'Connell i guarantee you is already
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Speaker 1: putting a staff together at the same time that he's
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Speaker 1: putting together with his head coach a game plan for
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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. I mean that that's that's what you do.
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, if you've got an opportunity to be
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Speaker 1: the head coach, you're not gonna sit back and hey, look,
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Speaker 1: you know, I really got to concentrate on the super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: You know. Uh, I can't worry about putting my staff together.
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Speaker 1: What now, I'm putting the staff together. I'm getting on
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Speaker 1: the phone in my spare time every chance that I get,
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Speaker 1: and I'm texting guys between you know, game plan meetings
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Speaker 1: for the super Bowl because I'm telling Sean McVeigh, Look, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be a head coach with the vikings.
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Speaker 1: I gotta get my stuff together. Man. Okay, you can
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Speaker 1: handle the game plan. It'll help you as much as
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Speaker 1: I can. But I gotta, I gotta, I gotta work, man,
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Speaker 1: you know so. I mean, look, the guys are putting
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Speaker 1: staff together, and that's when when you've had an opening
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Speaker 1: for fifty days or however long it span. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's one of the great advantages to having the first
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Speaker 1: opportunity at hiring somebody is to be kind of first
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Speaker 1: in line. For first of all, you want to cherry
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Speaker 1: pick your head coach, and then once you get the
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Speaker 1: opportunity to get the pick of the litter, then you
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Speaker 1: can cherry pick or get the pick of the litter
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Speaker 1: with your staff. And that's I mean, that's critical. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think I really believe that that's critical, especially when
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Speaker 1: you have a staff that there's not gonna be or
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Speaker 1: apparently not going to be a connection with the past regime.
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Speaker 1: For example, they like the Baltimore Ravens. You know, if
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Speaker 1: if something happened with John Horball to our John Horball
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Speaker 1: decided not to coach anymore, they're probably gonna hire a
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Speaker 1: guy that has some connection to the Ravens organization, which
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Speaker 1: then and would follow that some of the guys that
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Speaker 1: are already on the staff are gonna be retained by
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Speaker 1: the new head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. With this staff,
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Speaker 1: which was put together by former college coach, how many
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Speaker 1: people from the staff are gonna be staying on board, Well,
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Speaker 1: they've already started to go away. I mean a handful
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Speaker 1: of already taking gigs elsewhere. College jobs and there's reports
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Speaker 1: that Joe Colin there were people taking job before the
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Speaker 1: season ending George Warhops interviewing. That was a report a
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Speaker 1: while ago. So I mean, yeah, So, I mean that's
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Speaker 1: I think that's the hard part, and I think that
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Speaker 1: makes it a little bit frustrating, is that, Okay, did
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Speaker 1: did you get the pick of the litter from from
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Speaker 1: the head coaching availability? I mean you could say maybe not.
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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, maybe you do. Maybe you're gonna
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Speaker 1: get the guy that you were tagging all along, or
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Speaker 1: that you had in your sights all along. But when
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Speaker 1: what it's been forty nine or fifty days, sometimes it
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Speaker 1: gives the appearance certainly that that's not the case. And
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Speaker 1: then I can tell you right now that you're losing
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Speaker 1: out on hiring staff. In fact, indisputable, you are losing
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Speaker 1: out on hiring the best of the best. From a
12:19
Speaker 1: staff perspective, here's a question for you. Maybe we look well,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get an answer to this question. We want
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Speaker 1: answers on this show. I want to how much how
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Speaker 1: important is the staff as opposed to the talent and
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Speaker 1: the personnel? The talent you have to have the talent.
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Speaker 1: How much can the staff actually do if you're you know,
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Speaker 1: really talented. I'm still a big believer in that in
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Speaker 1: that coaching matters, you know, and looking I've heard many
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Speaker 1: people talk about it's not about the xs and o's,
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Speaker 1: it's about the Jimmy's and the jaels, and that's true,
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Speaker 1: but excess and os matters too. And anybody that believes
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Speaker 1: that any part of an organization is not as important
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Speaker 1: as another part should be fired immediately. Because I'm a
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Speaker 1: I'm a strong believer in that everything matters, um And
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Speaker 1: when I say everything matters from from the assistant coaches
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Speaker 1: that you have, to your coordinators to your head coach,
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Speaker 1: and obviously the head coach has to be a tremendous leader.
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Speaker 1: Who you have in management from a personnel standpoint, who's
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Speaker 1: picking the players to come in? That matters. It matters
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Speaker 1: the players that you have and the background and the
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Speaker 1: values that they bring from a plain skill set standpoint,
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Speaker 1: but also from value standpoint and how they're built internally
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Speaker 1: at all matters. And if and if you're not trying
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Speaker 1: to get better in all areas and getting the best
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Speaker 1: that you can be in all areas, then I think
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Speaker 1: you have less of a chance of being a consistent winner.
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Speaker 1: That's that's one of the beauties when you look at
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Speaker 1: the organizations that have a history of winning, they have
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Speaker 1: a history of consistency with their coaching staff us and
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Speaker 1: from an organizational standpoint, and they've got quality people. Quality people.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know when I the New England Patriots,
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Speaker 1: I mean it starts with one guy in Bill Belichick. Okay,
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Speaker 1: but he doesn't do it by himself. He has a
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Speaker 1: trusted uh collection of people and it's not easy to
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Speaker 1: be come part of that circle of trust with Bill Belichick.
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Speaker 1: And I bring up the Ravens because the Ravens have
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Speaker 1: been able to do it through multiple types of quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: They've been able to do it through multiple personnel executives,
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Speaker 1: from Ozzy Newsome to the to the new guy what's
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Speaker 1: his name, uh, Toronto Blank. But anyway, the new guy
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Speaker 1: that they have who worked under Ozzie and who by
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Speaker 1: the way, refused many jobs to stay on board with
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Speaker 1: the Ravens because he knew that he was going to
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Speaker 1: be the eventual replacement Dozzy Knwsom. But I mean, that's
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Speaker 1: that's what you need to strive to be. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that organization, I think has done a fantastic job. And
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Speaker 1: they have groomed a lot of coaches from their own staff.
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Speaker 1: How many coaches did you see them have to where else?
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Speaker 1: Said they lose a coordinator, whether it be offensive or defensive,
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Speaker 1: and they're just promoting from what's end because there they
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Speaker 1: know the way that they want it done in Baltimore.
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Speaker 1: And I have great appreciation for John Harball. I think
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Speaker 1: John Harball, I think the ownership in Baltimore, Ozzy Newsom,
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Speaker 1: I think helps set a standard there and that's why
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Speaker 1: they went all the time. We saw it firsthand training
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Speaker 1: camp a few years ago, going up there and seeing
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Speaker 1: how they work in the building and operate their organization firsthand.
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Speaker 1: Look at it for the Jaguars a few years back.
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Speaker 1: I let's come back in a moment, plenty more ahead.
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Speaker 1: A little later, we'll go around the National Football League,
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Speaker 1: plenty of storylines and we're not even to the Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl yet. We're over a week from the super Bowl,
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Speaker 1: and it feels like this is the longest off season ever.
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Speaker 1: By the way, that was one of the best championship
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Speaker 1: weekends in a long time. We'll get to that when
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour Thursday afternoon. J P. Shadrick,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Logaman, Glad you're along with us. Joe Fortunado on
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Speaker 1: the audio, Brent Reber on the video side. The off
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Speaker 1: season is here. The wheels are turning for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: We think there's some reports and things going on, but
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Speaker 1: nothing has been announced as of yet. Some of the
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Speaker 1: reported names that have interviewed for the Jaguars head coaching
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Speaker 1: job have taken other gigs already, of course, so um,
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Speaker 1: you know, it kind of feels like the wheels are
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Speaker 1: turning though, right. I mean, there's these well mean to
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Speaker 1: me because you're spinning. Well, they're not spending too quickly apparently,
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Speaker 1: but you're starting to see these other names um come out.
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Speaker 1: Like today. There was a report again today from Mike
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Speaker 1: garre Full of NFL Network the Jaguars are working toward
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Speaker 1: adding former Vikings GM Rick Spielman to the front office
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Speaker 1: and an unspecified role. He's had a long career in
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Speaker 1: the National Football League. He's been the GM of the
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Speaker 1: Vikings since twelve through this past season when they cleaned
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Speaker 1: house there. He've been with the Vikings since oh six.
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Speaker 1: So you start seeing names like that. You mentioned Adrian
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Speaker 1: Wilson a moment ago with the Left which stuff last week?
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Speaker 1: You know, is this more than a head coaching change?
17:42
Speaker 1: Trent Bulky is the general manager for the Jaguars. What
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Speaker 1: does Mr Khan have in mind? That only Mr Khan
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Speaker 1: knows that obviously. Yeah, that's I think that's a great question. Um.
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Speaker 1: There have been reports that that some people were not
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Speaker 1: thrilled about the opportunity here because Trent Balky was in place.
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Speaker 1: Is that factual information? I don't know. I haven't talked
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Speaker 1: to any of those people, but I will tell you
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Speaker 1: this that when reports start coming out about a Spielman
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Speaker 1: or a Wilson or something of that nature, you know,
18:21
Speaker 1: report some any other old saying is where they're smoked,
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Speaker 1: there's fire, But in what capacity? R What is the
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Speaker 1: structure of the organization going to be? And that and
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Speaker 1: that's why you just have to kind of wait and
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Speaker 1: see what ownership was gonna do, because I mean, that's
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Speaker 1: that's his decision when when he decides to make the
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Speaker 1: call on who and then also what he's gonna let
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Speaker 1: us know. And the structure could be anything. Could it?
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Speaker 1: Could it involved an e v P to where the
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Speaker 1: e v P has a general manager and a coach? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Could it be? Where are you just have a general
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Speaker 1: manager and a coach and then they both report directly
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Speaker 1: to him? Sure, I don't know, if them and then
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Speaker 1: to the owner. There's all those possibility. The one thing
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Speaker 1: I think that I'm a big believer in and that
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Speaker 1: when somebody gets an opportunity to be the head coach,
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Speaker 1: that's gonna it's there's gonna be a lot of money
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Speaker 1: with the opportunity of being a head coach, and so
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Speaker 1: I think I think some people view that as quote
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Speaker 1: unquote striking the lottery. And so if you're, if you're
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Speaker 1: and that's why I think this hiring process can be
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Speaker 1: so challenging, is that you want to make sure that
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Speaker 1: you get a person that it's not about the money.
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Speaker 1: It's about it's about the team, and it's about winning.
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Speaker 1: It's about culture. It's more than just about me the
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Speaker 1: head coach and boy am I gonna be set for
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Speaker 1: life because I just got million dollars guaranteed. That's not
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Speaker 1: what it can be about. And that's those people are
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Speaker 1: hard to find, Okay, I mean we look Andy Reid.
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Speaker 1: I think is is a perfect example of the guy,
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Speaker 1: the type of guy that you're looking for, John Harball.
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Speaker 1: They're driven more than just money. Do they want to
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Speaker 1: be compensated fairly, sure everybody does, but it's more than
20:16
Speaker 1: than just the money, and so I think that's very challenging.
20:20
Speaker 1: It's it's no different than finding the right people on
20:23
Speaker 1: the personnel side of things. You have to find people
20:28
Speaker 1: that whose agenda includes getting this organization to be a
20:32
Speaker 1: perennial winner, a consistent winner. It's not about well, I
20:37
Speaker 1: want to make sure that I'm taking care of I
20:38
Speaker 1: want to make sure that my political power is still intact.
20:42
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that my contract is where
20:44
Speaker 1: it needs to be. Now, I mean that you've got
20:46
Speaker 1: to find people that they are so far above and
20:50
Speaker 1: beyond that. It's about the brand and the logo and
20:55
Speaker 1: the team and the people in the organization. And that's
20:58
Speaker 1: not easy to find. That's that and uh, you know
21:02
Speaker 1: it's really not There's only a few organizations around the
21:05
Speaker 1: league I think you could say have been stable over
21:07
Speaker 1: a long period of time in that regards. It's not
21:10
Speaker 1: it's not easy. It's it's not easy. And uh and
21:13
Speaker 1: what's the right way to do things? I don't think
21:15
Speaker 1: there's a right way. There's there's some teams that that
21:19
Speaker 1: ownership is involved in a in a day to day process,
21:23
Speaker 1: and I think that that helps in a lot of
21:26
Speaker 1: ways to for the awareness of things that are happening
21:30
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis. If if you have
21:33
Speaker 1: somebody like Mr Khan who is involved in in other
21:36
Speaker 1: businesses and is not here on a day to day basis,
21:39
Speaker 1: do you need to have that e v P, that
21:42
Speaker 1: person who can see things on a day to day
21:45
Speaker 1: basis and who can evaluate with experienced eyes. I mean, look,
21:50
Speaker 1: I mean there's a there's a case to be made
21:52
Speaker 1: for having a lot of different formulations and and setups
21:56
Speaker 1: to the organization structure. But but most important only you
22:00
Speaker 1: have to find those people that the agenda is lacking.
22:05
Speaker 1: And it's when I say the agenda, the personal agenda
22:09
Speaker 1: takes a back seat to what the team and organizational
22:13
Speaker 1: agenda is. You know, just off the cuff here, thinking
22:16
Speaker 1: you know around the league, top cultural destinations around the league,
22:22
Speaker 1: most stable organizations, and number one in my mind's Pittsburgh Steelers.
22:26
Speaker 1: They don't change coaches. Ever, the ownership has been there
22:29
Speaker 1: forever well, Pittsburgh Steelers, New England Patriots, Baltimore Ravens. Right.
22:33
Speaker 1: But the Steelers even over a longer period of time, right,
22:35
Speaker 1: I mean since the seventies, right, and they've and they've
22:37
Speaker 1: been consistent throughout that there's been some change in New
22:40
Speaker 1: England now as of the last twenty years, obviously, they've
22:43
Speaker 1: been a lot of success. Seattle is another one consistent
22:46
Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, so you know, but there aren't many.
22:51
Speaker 1: I mean, Dallas has not had a lot of success
22:53
Speaker 1: over the years since the Super Bowl runs of the nineties. Um,
22:57
Speaker 1: they've had the same ownership that's been consisted and they've
23:00
Speaker 1: had a lot of success off the field obviously, And
23:03
Speaker 1: that's that's the example of ownership being involved every day.
23:06
Speaker 1: I mean, he's right there in the mix and owner
23:08
Speaker 1: slash general manager, Jerry owner slash whatever he wants, that's
23:12
Speaker 1: his title, that gig. So there's different ways to go
23:15
Speaker 1: about it, but there are just really a handful that
23:18
Speaker 1: I think you could define as really stable organizations in
23:23
Speaker 1: the league. There's not a lot, but that's what you
23:24
Speaker 1: always strive for, you know, That's that's what you strive for.
23:28
Speaker 1: And uh, and Baltimore will be in there, right, Yeah,
23:31
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Baltimore is by far in there.
23:34
Speaker 1: I mean, that's I think that's the organization that has
23:37
Speaker 1: had more turnover but less change than most teams, and
23:43
Speaker 1: which is kind of odd to say that more turn
23:45
Speaker 1: turnover but less change. And that's just because they've been
23:48
Speaker 1: able to to develop not only players, but they've developed
23:53
Speaker 1: people in their organization from a from a staffing standpoint,
23:57
Speaker 1: on the coaching staff and on the person outside of things.
24:00
Speaker 1: And that's that's been impressive. And uh, I mean it's
24:04
Speaker 1: not very often that you see somebody from the Ravens
24:08
Speaker 1: organization that just leaves. I mean, they that's there, their Ravens.
24:17
Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. But it's a challenge. It's always
24:21
Speaker 1: a challenge and it's not easy to get it right. So,
24:24
Speaker 1: as I said before, forty nine fifty days, here we are.
24:29
Speaker 1: And is it is it an optimum set of circumstances
24:33
Speaker 1: where we're at right now? No? No, would you like
24:36
Speaker 1: to have had that position filled, absolutely, because there's so
24:41
Speaker 1: much more to do after you name that person, and
24:45
Speaker 1: I don't look now, the combine is in a month,
24:48
Speaker 1: and then free agency starts in a month and a half. Well,
24:51
Speaker 1: and in putting a staff together, Um, there's there's so
24:58
Speaker 1: much to do when you think about, Okay, the combine
25:01
Speaker 1: so close, the free agency is not that far. But
25:05
Speaker 1: I mean, I go back to that staff, the staffing part.
25:08
Speaker 1: You're missing out right now, you're missing out, and then
25:12
Speaker 1: you can't argue that when we return, it's college prospects
25:17
Speaker 1: scouting season. The All Star games are happening. We'll get
25:20
Speaker 1: Jeff Logman's annual Shrine Bowl story. You can bring that
25:26
Speaker 1: up every year, I think around this time, which is good.
25:28
Speaker 1: And you know the way, when you say about all
25:30
Speaker 1: these all star games, you're also missing out with a
25:34
Speaker 1: staff's opportunity to evaluate, to add to your personnel department's opinion.
25:40
Speaker 1: Scouts are scouting, but the four eyes, the better coaches
25:44
Speaker 1: have an opinion. In scouting, two coaches have to give
25:47
Speaker 1: you directive. Hey, look, we're looking for this type of
25:51
Speaker 1: guy to fit this system. You don't know what type
25:55
Speaker 1: of guy and what type of system you're on right now.
25:57
Speaker 1: They're just collecting information. Feels like, let's come back in
26:01
Speaker 1: a moment of Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.
26:07
Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, and if you're watching us
26:10
Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot Com or jag Social media, it's a
26:14
Speaker 1: live look at the demolition of the practice fields for
26:20
Speaker 1: the new football Performance Center that is slated to open
26:23
Speaker 1: for training camp. They started what a day or two
26:29
Speaker 1: after the season ended here and put up the temporary fencing,
26:33
Speaker 1: brought in a couple of mobile trailers for the offices
26:36
Speaker 1: for the construction, and then started tearing things down. The
26:39
Speaker 1: bleachers are now gone. Field one, which was nearest to
26:43
Speaker 1: the bleachers, is now chopped up halfway. They're taking the
26:46
Speaker 1: drainage out of one portion. They're taking down the concrete
26:49
Speaker 1: wall on the south end. Well, there's a lot going
26:52
Speaker 1: on right now. At least there's some shovels in the
26:55
Speaker 1: ground and that's a good thing to see. Yeah, that, Uh,
26:58
Speaker 1: they didn't waste any time in poor Field one. Field
27:02
Speaker 1: one used to be uh one of those rubber ground
27:07
Speaker 1: up rubber in late artificial turf field. It's hot as hell,
27:11
Speaker 1: and then it was gotten rid of because it was
27:14
Speaker 1: hot and it was not the greatest surface in the
27:18
Speaker 1: world and turned into a natural grass field. And now
27:22
Speaker 1: it's gonna be turned up and turned into something else.
27:24
Speaker 1: I think, first of all, it's gonna be an amazing complex,
27:27
Speaker 1: and from what I understand, it's gonna be very similar
27:28
Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins complex. Some similarities there from an
27:32
Speaker 1: architectural standpoint. I think that saved them a little bit
27:35
Speaker 1: of time too, because if that facility has already been
27:38
Speaker 1: designed a certain way, you can take some pieces of that.
27:40
Speaker 1: It's a little time and develop, which is smart. I
27:42
Speaker 1: mean in the in the essence of time. I just
27:44
Speaker 1: remember when you go back to when we didn't have
27:51
Speaker 1: a field at that time and where those uh I
27:56
Speaker 1: think where the fair fair grounds are at? Uh? Or
28:00
Speaker 1: was it right there? By trying to remember the exact
28:02
Speaker 1: location of the old baseball grounds, Oh, the Wolfson Park,
28:07
Speaker 1: Yeah about Yeah, it was kind of on the footprint
28:09
Speaker 1: of the on the footprint of the practice field. So
28:12
Speaker 1: we didn't have a field in the in the beginning
28:15
Speaker 1: of so when we used to go outside to do
28:20
Speaker 1: we would do some like ply metrics and stuff. You know,
28:23
Speaker 1: where you're doing high knees and butt kicks and shuffling
28:26
Speaker 1: and all that kind of all that stuff. Yeah, you
28:29
Speaker 1: still do it all the time. And we would go
28:32
Speaker 1: out to the baseball field Wilson Park, that's right, that's
28:36
Speaker 1: what it was called, the Wolfson Park back then, and
28:39
Speaker 1: we would tear it up. You know, we're wearing wets,
28:43
Speaker 1: you know. And I just felt bad because you know,
28:45
Speaker 1: when you do football drills from the same spot, you know,
28:48
Speaker 1: we're just tearing up the south field. I just want
28:49
Speaker 1: to sit. I'm sitting there thinking to myself, if I'm
28:51
Speaker 1: a baseball player and I come out here for a
28:53
Speaker 1: game or a practice and and all these football guys
28:56
Speaker 1: have been out here and I'm looking at my field,
28:58
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm not very happy right now. And because
29:02
Speaker 1: our field at the time, which I remember correctly, that
29:06
Speaker 1: used to be the old paint factory on the south
29:09
Speaker 1: end of the stadium. So they essentially brought in some
29:12
Speaker 1: dirt to cover up all the lead from the old
29:14
Speaker 1: paint factory, okay, and covered it up and then put
29:17
Speaker 1: some sad down. And so we were practicing on probably
29:22
Speaker 1: some bad things for many years. And then it got moved.
29:25
Speaker 1: Eventually the location that it's that now, but it's done
29:28
Speaker 1: a lot of transition with those practice fields over the year.
29:30
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good teams on those early practice fields,
29:33
Speaker 1: very good teams, very good players. Hall of famer. A
29:36
Speaker 1: matter of fact, Tony was Sully, Jimmie Smith, Fred Taylor
29:39
Speaker 1: was on those feet a Hall of Famer. By the way,
29:44
Speaker 1: what do they announced the Hall of Fame? I'm rooting
29:45
Speaker 1: for Tony this coming through a week from today. A
29:48
Speaker 1: week from today, it's when the honors show is. I
29:50
Speaker 1: believe it's during that show they'll announce it. It's already
29:53
Speaker 1: been voted upon, but the results are not out there yet,
29:56
Speaker 1: so I think we'll find out that. I just wanted
29:58
Speaker 1: to know because I mean, I knew it was and
30:00
Speaker 1: up because it's always Super Bowl week, and I didn't
30:02
Speaker 1: know the exact date because I mean, I I think
30:05
Speaker 1: he's gonna get in this year. And and by the way,
30:10
Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring this up because um, uh
30:13
Speaker 1: the guy that did a radio show and I retweeted
30:16
Speaker 1: what he said, and I think it was um former
30:18
Speaker 1: offensive lineman that played in the league, Uh Ryan what No,
30:26
Speaker 1: I was, Uh, he does some radio stuff anyway, Ross
30:29
Speaker 1: Tucker Ross Tucker. Thank you. Ross Tucker did a segment
30:33
Speaker 1: with somebody where he talked about watching film of the
30:37
Speaker 1: great left tackles during his era, and it was and
30:41
Speaker 1: I thought he was spot on, and that he talked about,
30:45
Speaker 1: you know, Ogden as being a really good football player,
30:48
Speaker 1: which Jonathan was. He's one of those guys that when
30:51
Speaker 1: I went against him, I really didn't have a plan
30:53
Speaker 1: because it just said I didn't know what was gonna
30:54
Speaker 1: work because he was such a freakish athlete athlete in
30:58
Speaker 1: so long. And then there was Walter Jones and Orlando
31:01
Speaker 1: Pace and Walter Jones and and he brought this up
31:05
Speaker 1: that Walter Jones and Bisselli were the two best, but
31:08
Speaker 1: he said Bisselli was the best, and and there is,
31:11
Speaker 1: in my opinion, he has spot on. I never, I
31:16
Speaker 1: never ever watched one of my own offensive players was
31:20
Speaker 1: such great admiration as Tony Basselli. I mean, he was
31:23
Speaker 1: a guy that when we weren't on the field as
31:26
Speaker 1: a defense, I would get my cup of water and
31:29
Speaker 1: then walked back to a spot that I could watch
31:32
Speaker 1: him go against the greats, whether it Ben Shawn Jones
31:35
Speaker 1: or Bruce Smith or whoever. And I'd watch him kick
31:39
Speaker 1: their rear end and it was one of the great
31:41
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a front road ticket, man, Popcorn,
31:44
Speaker 1: I mean front road ticket to a great player. And
31:48
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a great player that was making great
31:50
Speaker 1: players look like they were nothing. And he was, without
31:54
Speaker 1: a doubt, the best left tackle in that era. And
31:57
Speaker 1: that's hands down, without a doubt. Let's hope the the
32:02
Speaker 1: coronation begins next week. Though. The only thing that he
32:06
Speaker 1: doesn't have in comparison to some of these other guys
32:09
Speaker 1: is the longevity. That's that's the only thing. But but
32:14
Speaker 1: but his heights for three or four years was higher
32:20
Speaker 1: than those guys. But he just again that longevity thing.
32:25
Speaker 1: A lot of those guys did it for twelve, thirteen,
32:29
Speaker 1: fourteen years. However many years that they did it, they
32:32
Speaker 1: just did it longer. So anyway, I'm rooting for him,
32:35
Speaker 1: and uh and I will I will be jumping up
32:38
Speaker 1: and down if he gets elected next Thursday. Rick Stroud
32:42
Speaker 1: from the Tampa Bay Times, a long time NFL writer,
32:45
Speaker 1: tweeting out just a little over twenty minutes ago. Here's
32:49
Speaker 1: the quote hearing Bucks offensive coordinator Byron Left, which is
32:52
Speaker 1: expected to remove himself from consideration for the Jaguars head
32:56
Speaker 1: coaching job soon. Former Raiders interim head coach Rich Bisaccia
33:00
Speaker 1: and former Eagles coach Doug Peterson remains strong candidates. End quote.
33:04
Speaker 1: That's Rick Stroud, Tampa Bay about twenty four minutes ago
33:08
Speaker 1: right now. Interesting. Well, it's very interesting that somebody would
33:12
Speaker 1: move remove themselves from consideration given that, I mean, being
33:18
Speaker 1: a head coach in the National Football League's tremendous opportunity.
33:21
Speaker 1: I think that's very curious. I'd love to know the
33:23
Speaker 1: reasoning behind that. There's a lot of speculation, a lot
33:27
Speaker 1: of speculation as to why he hasn't been hired yet,
33:31
Speaker 1: and uh, it has to do with the general manager situation,
33:34
Speaker 1: and that's the speculation. I don't know if that's why
33:37
Speaker 1: he would pull him self out of consideration, But Rick
33:40
Speaker 1: Stroud is a reputable guy who has had very reputable
33:44
Speaker 1: information in the past, and I think that that would
33:47
Speaker 1: be unfortunate if that's the case. But I will tell
33:50
Speaker 1: you that I think Byron Left which is a wonderful candidate.
33:52
Speaker 1: I think Rick Posaccia is a is an outstanding Canada
33:55
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, a couple of weeks ago, I
33:58
Speaker 1: had a conversation with Gus Bradley about him, and Gus
34:01
Speaker 1: couldn't couldn't speak highly enough about him, great things to
34:05
Speaker 1: say about him. And then obviously, uh, Doug Peterson has
34:10
Speaker 1: won a super Bowl and he kind of fell out
34:13
Speaker 1: of favor in Philadelphia if people will remember back, because
34:17
Speaker 1: there was this falling out with the Carson Wentz situation,
34:23
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz wasn't exactly handled with kid gloves at
34:28
Speaker 1: the last part of with Philadelphia. If you look back
34:33
Speaker 1: at that and you evaluate where Carson Wentz is at now,
34:39
Speaker 1: who handled that properly? I think Doug Pearson handled it
34:44
Speaker 1: right and that he knew that Carson Wentz wasn't the
34:49
Speaker 1: franchise answer at quarterback, and so why continue to continue
34:56
Speaker 1: on with a charade that he's gonna be this great
35:00
Speaker 1: quarterback when he didn't have a belief in him because
35:03
Speaker 1: the general manager gave him this long extension. Long extension
35:08
Speaker 1: doesn't make you the answer and doesn't make you a
35:11
Speaker 1: great quarterback. Great play makes somebody a great quarterback. So
35:16
Speaker 1: I think I think Doug Peterson would be a wonderful hire.
35:19
Speaker 1: He's been there, he's done that, He's been around the
35:21
Speaker 1: league forever too, A long time, long time player quarterback
35:25
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins and the Packers and the Eagles, the Browns.
35:28
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's a backup most of his careers,
35:30
Speaker 1: so he's been around the league for a long long time.
35:32
Speaker 1: And he's an offensive mind. And we have we have
35:36
Speaker 1: a great young quarterback here in Jacksonville that I believe
35:40
Speaker 1: very strongly in and I and he just he needs
35:44
Speaker 1: to be developed. He needs to continue to be surrounded
35:48
Speaker 1: with talent, and most importantly, he needs to be surrounded
35:53
Speaker 1: with stability. And if you think that just because you
35:58
Speaker 1: have this wonderful young quarterback that wins are magically going
36:03
Speaker 1: to appear, take a look at the Detroit lines under
36:07
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and tell me how that worked out. Right,
36:11
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna happen. That magic pixie dust of just
36:14
Speaker 1: having the quarterback and getting it all right doesn't work.
36:17
Speaker 1: You got you gotta have that in place to have
36:19
Speaker 1: a chance, but it doesn't mean that you're gonna you
36:21
Speaker 1: have it solved. Can you imagine if if Matthew Stafford
36:27
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to play with a good football team
36:31
Speaker 1: for a long period of time, like one that he's
36:33
Speaker 1: been surrounded with in l A. I was gonna say,
36:35
Speaker 1: he's on one now and the first year in here
36:37
Speaker 1: they go on to the Super Bowl's first year. I mean,
36:43
Speaker 1: that's some of those things that you that you watch
36:45
Speaker 1: and you observe the history you can you cannot ignore,
36:49
Speaker 1: and you cannot allow them to be ignored in the
36:52
Speaker 1: decision making process that you're making for your organization moving forward.
36:58
Speaker 1: We'll come back in a moment and go around the
36:59
Speaker 1: nast A Football League. Plenty of headlines, storylines around the
37:03
Speaker 1: league a little over a week away from the Super Bowl,
37:09
Speaker 1: and as we just mentioned, apparently Bucks offensive coordinator Byron
37:14
Speaker 1: left Which expected to remove himself from consideration for the
37:17
Speaker 1: Jags head coaching job. That's according to Rick Stroud of
37:19
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Times. We're back with more in a moment.
37:22
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're back.
37:34
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday afternoon, JP Shadrick
37:37
Speaker 1: with Jeff Logaman. Glad you're with us. The off season
37:40
Speaker 1: rolls along. Reports this afternoon that Byron Leftwich is expected
37:45
Speaker 1: to pull his name out of the running for the
37:47
Speaker 1: Jaguars head coaching job, and that has the social media
37:51
Speaker 1: world a buzz. I'll say that right now. The social
37:53
Speaker 1: media world has been a buzz of flame for quite
37:58
Speaker 1: some times. It has, Yes, it has, it will continue,
38:02
Speaker 1: I believe. I mean, people have a right to express
38:05
Speaker 1: their opinion and uh and I don't think there's anything
38:08
Speaker 1: wrong with that. I think you just gotta be respectful
38:10
Speaker 1: about it. But express yourself as you desire. College All
38:16
Speaker 1: Star season, Senior Bowl week, we were supposed to go cover,
38:18
Speaker 1: but we were kind of hung. I had to hang
38:21
Speaker 1: back here just in case things happen with the coaching search.
38:24
Speaker 1: We weren't. You know, so you got tipped off that
38:26
Speaker 1: there was gonna be a coach named No, not at all?
38:28
Speaker 1: Are lying? I'm not at all. Are you withholding information?
38:32
Speaker 1: Is this are you tweeting right now? Is this what
38:34
Speaker 1: you're doing? So it sounds like on Twitter right now? No,
38:38
Speaker 1: So didn't get a chance to go this year. The
38:40
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl practices and all that. Shrine bulls tonight in
38:43
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. They moved that location. Obviously in the old
38:47
Speaker 1: days used to be out West and then they moved
38:50
Speaker 1: it to St. Pete for the last number of years
38:53
Speaker 1: in Tropicana Field. You don't want to be in California nowadays,
38:56
Speaker 1: and now it's now it's in Vegas at the state
39:00
Speaker 1: mains great. I mean, when Bucky Brooks is on the
39:02
Speaker 1: call tonight on NFL Network, head him, that's a that's
39:07
Speaker 1: a a tough broadcast if you're trying to talk just
39:12
Speaker 1: like like the the game itself. But if you're if
39:15
Speaker 1: you're a personnel junkie like Bucky, I mean, it's a
39:17
Speaker 1: you know, it's a great job. These days, at least
39:20
Speaker 1: the last number of years, it's kind of the Shrine
39:23
Speaker 1: Bowl has been the game for the fourth round through
39:26
Speaker 1: seventh round kind of prospect guys. Sea Bowl has been
39:31
Speaker 1: you know, usually it's the older guys. They have second round,
39:34
Speaker 1: of third or fourth round for the most part, what's
39:36
Speaker 1: what's the round? What's the one? Then for the top picks,
39:39
Speaker 1: they don't go to any of them. Gay, Well, okay,
39:42
Speaker 1: give an idea that years ago the Senior Bowl was viewed.
39:47
Speaker 1: There was three of them in my era. Okay, you
39:50
Speaker 1: had the Blue Gray Game Christmas in Montgomery, Alabama exactly.
39:55
Speaker 1: That was considered like the lesser of all of the
39:58
Speaker 1: All Star games, and mainly because it happened before or
40:03
Speaker 1: during Bowl season. It also was on Christmas Day, So
40:07
Speaker 1: there was a lot of things that weren't great about it.
40:09
Speaker 1: At the Crampton Bowl, it's the name of the stadium. Yeah,
40:12
Speaker 1: and then you had the East West Game which was
40:14
Speaker 1: in Palo Alto, which I went to that one, and
40:17
Speaker 1: that was actually considered a highly desirable all Star game
40:21
Speaker 1: to go to. And then the Senior Bowl in my
40:23
Speaker 1: era was viewed as something that you did not want
40:26
Speaker 1: to go to because they had practices that were in
40:31
Speaker 1: in full pads, they had a lot of contact and
40:33
Speaker 1: players that were looking at potentially playing in these all
40:37
Speaker 1: star games thought that that that was a very high
40:40
Speaker 1: risk proposition and a risk of serious injury, which many
40:44
Speaker 1: guys didn't want to even have an opportunity to partake
40:47
Speaker 1: in at. But the the East West Shrine Game in Paulo,
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Speaker 1: Auto was awesome. I had Mike Godfried was our head
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Speaker 1: coach of the East squad. Jimmy Johnson, the head coach
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Speaker 1: of the Miami Hurricanes at that time, was the assistant
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Speaker 1: coach and soon to be named the Dallas Cowboys head
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Speaker 1: coach right after that. That was we had a great staff,
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Speaker 1: had a great time, had a lot of great teammates
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Speaker 1: out there, and uh and that was cool. I in
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Speaker 1: in that game. I'll never forget that that we won.
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Speaker 1: We dominated them and uh, I got to play mental linebacker,
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Speaker 1: outside linebacker, defensive end, and defensive tackle and nose tackle.
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Speaker 1: I got to play five positions. Jimmy Johnson let me
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Speaker 1: play all five positions in that game. It was awesome.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It was fun, a lot of fun.
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Speaker 1: I love this story. Every year the story comes around. Well,
41:41
Speaker 1: the stories that shall remain untold, was that they actually
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Speaker 1: gave us these uh they had a fleet of cars, okay,
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Speaker 1: and so you know, so that you could get around
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Speaker 1: town or get to the practice if you weren't going
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Speaker 1: to ride the bus, or if you wanted to go
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Speaker 1: get something to eat. And so we somehow we me
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Speaker 1: and about four other guys got ahold of a van.
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Speaker 1: And so the the van used to um leave a
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Speaker 1: little bit in the evening and return very late, and
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Speaker 1: we would take naps in the middle of the day.
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Speaker 1: So we had one guy that after we went out
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Speaker 1: to dinner okay one night and had some fun, we
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Speaker 1: couldn't wake him up in the van to get him
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Speaker 1: inside to the hotel that we were staying at. So
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Speaker 1: we tied his shoelaces together and just left him in
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Speaker 1: the van. So then the next morning we're going out
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Speaker 1: that I'm not going to name names here, why not.
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Speaker 1: So then next morning we're going out to the buses
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Speaker 1: to head to practice, and we got to the van.
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Speaker 1: We look inside a vent. He's still in there, just
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Speaker 1: sleeping away. We're like, dude, come on, man, we got practice,
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Speaker 1: and he's like literally we opened up the door and
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Speaker 1: he falling out of the van because his shoes still
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Speaker 1: tied together. Yeah, that was That was a lot of fun,
43:07
Speaker 1: had a good time. It sounds like you did what
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Speaker 1: a week it was back in with nineteen eighty nine, right,
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Speaker 1: that would have been. Yeah, nineteen eighty nine, January of
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. I won't tell you how old I
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Speaker 1: was in January of nineteen eight How old were you?
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Speaker 1: I was young? Young? I was young. Joe were you thirty?
43:29
Speaker 1: Let's go around I have been You're eight, Yeah, you're eight,
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Speaker 1: Joe's thirty one. I was twenty one. Yeah. Drafted Reber
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Speaker 1: was negative five man Weber pushing the buttons behind the scenes.
43:53
Speaker 1: He was He wasn't even a thought in his parents mind.
43:56
Speaker 1: Let's go around the National Football League and the eminent
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Speaker 1: story of the week. Brian Flores has filed a proposed
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Speaker 1: class action lawsuit against the NFL and three teams in
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Speaker 1: particular on top of the Dolphins, Broncos, and Giants, alleging
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Speaker 1: that the Dolphins owner offered money for him to lose
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Speaker 1: games in twenty eight team to enhance draft position, and
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Speaker 1: pressured him to recruit a prominent quarterback in violation of
44:22
Speaker 1: league tampering rules. He also alleges the Giants used his
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Speaker 1: interview only to fill the Rooney Rule requirements and had
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Speaker 1: apparent text messages from Bill Belichick mistakenly texting him congratulations
44:34
Speaker 1: instead of Brian Dable hours before Brian Flores was scheduled
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Speaker 1: to interview, and alleges that Broncos leadership didn't take his
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Speaker 1: interview seriously a couple of years back. He's seeking unspecified
44:46
Speaker 1: economic and punitive damages and it has set the NFL
44:51
Speaker 1: world ablaze. He made a lot of serious accusations, and uh,
44:57
Speaker 1: I know that there were some statements that were issued
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Speaker 1: to refute some of the allegations that he made. And
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Speaker 1: the one thing that I really don't understand, just going
45:09
Speaker 1: back before the lawsuit, happened was how does Brian Flores
45:14
Speaker 1: get fired? I mean, seriously, he he has been I
45:19
Speaker 1: think has done a really good job as a head
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Speaker 1: coach and managing a situation in Miami and has continued
45:26
Speaker 1: to get and get teams to play better down the line.
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Speaker 1: The situation appears that I don't know if this is
45:35
Speaker 1: ownership or this there was a battle between him and
45:39
Speaker 1: the general manager that happened and he lost, which that's
45:42
Speaker 1: happened before in the National Football League. But the allegations
45:46
Speaker 1: are very serious and I think there definitely has to
45:50
Speaker 1: be something done to change the way that the hiring
45:54
Speaker 1: process is currently working. Because out of all of the
45:57
Speaker 1: openings that have been filled so far, there hasn't been
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Speaker 1: a minority candidate. And there's some qualified hiring hiring, there
46:05
Speaker 1: has not been a candidate hired. I think that's a problem.
46:08
Speaker 1: I think that's a major problem. I also think that
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Speaker 1: that for I know that the intent of the Rooney
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Speaker 1: rule is what it is, but there's got to be
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Speaker 1: a better way to accomplish the diversity that the league
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Speaker 1: is trying to reach. And I don't know the answer
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Speaker 1: to that, but it uh. I think it will open
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Speaker 1: up a lot of eyes and uh, and I think
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Speaker 1: Brian Floores has taken a very bold step because it
46:35
Speaker 1: could essentially end his career, much like Colin Kaepernick in
46:39
Speaker 1: the National Football League. And I just wondered, also, what
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Speaker 1: will it do to his relationship with Bill Belichick, which
46:47
Speaker 1: I didn't And I know a lot of people say
46:48
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter because it's more important to address some
46:51
Speaker 1: of the bigger issues, and I get that, but you
46:54
Speaker 1: want to have as many allies in this in this
46:56
Speaker 1: struggle to gain attend sin to the issues that you're
47:01
Speaker 1: trying to point out, and uh, so crazy situation. And
47:07
Speaker 1: I think it's certainly is an issue that creates a
47:11
Speaker 1: black eye on the league because if you look at
47:14
Speaker 1: what's happened so far, it's hard to argue that things
47:17
Speaker 1: shouldn't be done differently. Only one African American head coach
47:21
Speaker 1: in the NFL at the moment, and he's one of
47:23
Speaker 1: the most successful, in Tomlin, and I thought Brian floy
47:27
Speaker 1: has had a lot of the same qualities of Mike Tomlin.
47:32
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Brian Floyes hasn't got an interview here
47:35
Speaker 1: and uh, and that's just my personal opinion. I think
47:40
Speaker 1: very highly of of Brian floy is as far as
47:42
Speaker 1: the job that he had been able to do in
47:44
Speaker 1: the first couple of years, and if the allegations about
47:46
Speaker 1: him getting paid to lose are true. Oh boy. Yeah.
47:52
Speaker 1: Other news this week, Tom Brady retired after twenty two seasons.
47:58
Speaker 1: They made it officially, officie. He's just put him in
48:03
Speaker 1: the hole now. Yeah, it's not even it's not even
48:07
Speaker 1: close that he he is the greatest of all time.
48:11
Speaker 1: He has been a total class act. And he did more.
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Speaker 1: I think he did more this year for the Tampa
48:18
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers and last year that any other player is
48:22
Speaker 1: cape any other player in the history of the National
48:24
Speaker 1: Football League. He had did more for that organization last
48:28
Speaker 1: years than any player has ever done for an organization
48:32
Speaker 1: as far as from a leadership standpoint, and I'm talking
48:34
Speaker 1: across the board, a leadership standpoint in the locker room
48:37
Speaker 1: with players, and from a leadership standpoint with a coaching staff, ownership, organization, everything,
48:43
Speaker 1: and that that last run with guys who have been
48:46
Speaker 1: wanting for a long time and then goes somewhere at
48:48
Speaker 1: the tail end. A lot of times doesn't go that well.
48:50
Speaker 1: This is certainly the exception to that. Washington football team
48:54
Speaker 1: has a new name, the Commanders. What do you think
48:57
Speaker 1: the whole process was kind of you know, they got
48:59
Speaker 1: a helicopter that could let the cat out of the back.
49:02
Speaker 1: Joe Thiesman, in typical form, couldn't keep his mouth shut
49:06
Speaker 1: and uh not tell what the name was gonna be.
49:09
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's typical Washington football team, Washington Commanders. I mean,
49:17
Speaker 1: that's just a typical happening for that organization. That that
49:20
Speaker 1: organization has been, uh somewhat dysfunctional over the years. There
49:24
Speaker 1: are some former employees that we're meeting with members of
49:27
Speaker 1: Congress today as well. So people want to turn what's
49:31
Speaker 1: going on with the Jaguars are dysfunctional? Will slow down,
49:34
Speaker 1: take a look at the Washington Commanders. That's Joe Fortunato
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Speaker 1: on audio, Brent Rebrun video. Jeff will talk to you soon.
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