Latest / Best of Business / Robyn Walker: Deloitte tax partner on the IRD cracking down on overseas student loan borrowers
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- 0:16Speaker 2: So it turns out that the IID crackdown on the
- 0:19Speaker 2: overseas student loan defaults is bearing fruit. IID has collected
- 0:23Speaker 2: more than two hundred million dollars in student loan repayments
- 0:26Speaker 2: in the past nine months, and that represents a forty
- 0:28Speaker 2: three percent increase on the same period the previous year.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Deloitte tax partner Robin Walker is with me on this. Hey, Robin, Hi,
- 0:35Speaker 2: you surprised at how much they've managed to rake in.
- 0:39Speaker 3: I think there's definitely plenty to be collected from overseas.
- 0:43Speaker 3: So it is good to see that the investment that
- 0:46Speaker 3: ID has made an increasing their focus on this area
- 0:50Speaker 3: is actually paying dividends in terms of that increase in collections.
- 0:54Speaker 2: What does this tell us? What do you reckon this
- 0:56Speaker 2: is down to? Is this down to increased resources for
- 0:59Speaker 2: IID or more direction for IID.
- 1:02Speaker 3: I think it's a bit of both, right. So in
- 1:05Speaker 3: budget last year, IOD was allocated I think twenty nine
- 1:08Speaker 3: million dollars a year for the next four years to
- 1:11Speaker 3: increase their audit activity and that was split across that
- 1:14Speaker 3: was to be split across general audit work and also
- 1:17Speaker 3: specifically in relation to student loan borrowers. So what they
- 1:22Speaker 3: said last year was that they actually increased their FTEs
- 1:26Speaker 3: working on student loans from twenty to forty five, so
- 1:30Speaker 3: more than double the number of people focusing on on this.
- 1:33Speaker 3: So I think they will have really ramped up their
- 1:35Speaker 3: efforts to contact people to just give them a bit
- 1:38Speaker 3: of a nudge along to say, hey, we know you're
- 1:41Speaker 3: not in New Zealand, and we know you owe us
- 1:44Speaker 3: money and we want you to start making some repayments,
- 1:47Speaker 3: become compliant.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Again, does it pay for itself? Like the amount that's
- 1:51Speaker 2: being put the extra funding that's been put in to
- 1:54Speaker 2: actually beef up this team is they are collecting much
- 1:57Speaker 2: more than we're funding them.
- 1:59Speaker 3: That's right, That's right. So normally on your when Iody
- 2:02Speaker 3: puts more money into audits, the return is around you know,
- 2:06Speaker 3: eight to nine dollars per dollar. And so I haven't
- 2:09Speaker 3: done the math on this particular one, but it's definitely
- 2:13Speaker 3: proving to be worthwhile.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Now, Robin, I am so desperate to believe that this
- 2:18Speaker 2: represents a change in attitude towards how much we respect
- 2:20Speaker 2: the tax payer because historically we have just been so
- 2:24Speaker 2: frivolous with money, right, loans like the COVID small business
- 2:27Speaker 2: loans just given out unsecured. Does this mean what we're
- 2:31Speaker 2: seeing here that we are prepared to be more respectful
- 2:34Speaker 2: towards it or am I just hoping too much?
- 2:37Speaker 3: Well, this is more about collecting the money that people. Oh,
- 2:41Speaker 3: so obviously it's great for people to get an education
- 2:44Speaker 3: and the student loan facilitates people being able to do that.
- 2:48Speaker 3: And obviously we've got this real incentive for people to
- 2:51Speaker 3: stay in New Zealand after the finish they're studying because
- 2:54Speaker 3: if they stay here then it's interest free. But as
- 2:57Speaker 3: soon as you leave New Zealand you suddenly start incurring interest.
- 3:01Speaker 3: But the issue there is that it's a lot harder
- 3:04Speaker 3: for you know, New Zealand to get its claws on
- 3:06Speaker 3: those repayments as soon as somebody leaves New Zealand. And
- 3:12Speaker 3: there's various statistics that are available, but it's quite it's
- 3:15Speaker 3: quite telling that what IDY has available, generally New Zealand
- 3:20Speaker 3: based borrowers are ninety five percent compliant, but overseas borrowers
- 3:26Speaker 3: the compliance varies. Like back in twenty twelve, when the
- 3:29Speaker 3: statistics started, about fifty percent of people were consistently compliant,
- 3:33Speaker 3: and then it dropped down and I think the lowest
- 3:35Speaker 3: I've seen is twenty twenty three, it was nineteen percent
- 3:39Speaker 3: were compliant, and at the moment it's only thirty thirty
- 3:41Speaker 3: percent of people are compliant as of the end of
- 3:44Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. So yeah, there's definitely a lot of
- 3:48Speaker 3: people overseas that could start repaying more of their loans.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Interesting. Hey, Robin, always good to talk to you. Thank
- 3:55Speaker 2: you so much, Robin Walker, Deloitte Tax Partner.
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