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Britney and Jada’s New Books with Brad Wollack and Ms. Pat · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
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  Speaker 1: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
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  Speaker 1: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
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  Speaker 1: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
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  Speaker 1: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
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  Speaker 1: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
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  Speaker 2: So easy.
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  Speaker 1: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.
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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: Woo woo.
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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 4: I have one of my return new favorites, but an
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  Speaker 4: old favorite of mine, Brad Wallach.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, Heather, for having me back.
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  Speaker 4: Tell everybody, tell the nice things you're saying about the
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  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoopers before we began.
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  Speaker 6: I was saying just what a positive reaction I got
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  Speaker 6: the last time I was on and how people were
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  Speaker 6: just happy to hear me again know that i'm still
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  Speaker 6: alive and then i'm still here from the chelsea lately
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  Speaker 6: days but then also new people came and were like
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  Speaker 6: oh we love you you're so funny and they love
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  Speaker 6: that i was non-pc and i'm like was i non-pc
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  Speaker 6: and i guess i was saying to you earlier i
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  Speaker 6: said i guess the way we talk about this stuff
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  Speaker 6: it isn't like normal people and i guess we say
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  Speaker 6: things that are would be considered non-PC. But anyway, you
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  Speaker 6: have great fans.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, I'm glad you can appreciate coming to Woodland Hills
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  Speaker 4: from the west side.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, of course.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for not valley shaming me. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 6: Honestly.
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  Speaker 4: And you know there's a Target right across the way.
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  Speaker 3: If you have to get anything, you can go to
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  Speaker 3: the Village, whatever you need.
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  Speaker 6: We had a nice sushi lunch the last time.
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  Speaker 5: We did.
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  Speaker 7: We did.
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  Speaker 6: A little suspect, but.
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  Speaker 3: Stop it. It was good.
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  Speaker 6: It was good.
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  Speaker 4: It's just that I hadn't been there a long time
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  Speaker 4: because I don't really go to lunch. I usually bring
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  Speaker 4: a Trader Joe's salad, which is also right across the street.
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about the Britney Spears book. It's out October 24th.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. I mean, there's so much stuff. There's so many
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  Speaker 3: stories that have been leaked.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, my God. She must have taken forever to write
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  Speaker 6: this herself.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, I had a conversation with Cade Hudson.
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  Speaker 6: Cade Hudson?
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  Speaker 2: Cade.
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  Speaker 6: Who's Cade?
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  Speaker 3: He is a man and he is her manager.
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  Speaker 4: And I talked to him at Craig's about a month ago.
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  Speaker 4: And he told me this book, the pre-orders were up
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  Speaker 4: to like, I want to say, and I'm just going
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  Speaker 4: to say, I don't, I can't verify this complete memory,
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  Speaker 4: but I want to say the pre-orders were up to
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  Speaker 4: 9 million.
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  Speaker 3: That's what he told me.
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  Speaker 6: That's insane. Wouldn't that be like the top selling book ever?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Pre-sales of nine million.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he predicts it'll make nine million.
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  Speaker 6: When you wrote You'll Never Blue Ball in This Town Again,
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  Speaker 6: how many pre-orders did you get, Heather?
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  Speaker 3: You know what, though? I did well on it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I ever made like any extra check
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  Speaker 4: from it, but it did sell a lot of books.
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  Speaker 4: And I remember it was the second week that I
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  Speaker 4: made the bestseller list.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Well, there you go. Nine million is insane.
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  Speaker 3: Pre-orders are the way to go.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I love to have authors on before because
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, let's get your pre-orders up.
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  Speaker 6: That's everything, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, especially if you're a celebrity because, like, You know,
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  Speaker 4: all the articles come out, all the podcasts come out,
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  Speaker 4: and if you're not a big reader, then you're like, well,
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  Speaker 4: now I know everything.
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  Speaker 3: I know all the scoop. So why would I buy it?
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  Speaker 4: So you have to get them to pre-order so that
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  Speaker 4: you can make the list.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're absolutely right, because everything now with Britney, and
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  Speaker 6: then I know we'll talk about Jada, it's like they
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  Speaker 6: reveal everything in the book, so why the hell would
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  Speaker 6: I want to buy it?
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  Speaker 4: So People has the exclusive interview, and the cover of
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  Speaker 4: this magazine, there were some comments saying– What is this?
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  Speaker 4: It looks like an AI thing where they took her
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  Speaker 4: face from something else. She obviously didn't do a shoot
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  Speaker 4: at the beach.
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  Speaker 6: In a flowery dress.
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  Speaker 4: She hasn't left her travertine Cheesecake Factory foyer in months.
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  Speaker 4: And when the times that she's been rolling around in
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  Speaker 4: the sand, people wasn't there.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 3: But, okay. So here are all the big bombshells from it.
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  Speaker 6: First of all, can we just discuss who was her ghostwriter?
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  Speaker 6: Who wrote this?
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  Speaker 3: She said she wrote it herself.
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  Speaker 6: She obviously did not.
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  Speaker 3: She has a helper.
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  Speaker 6: Of course she did. And you know how annoyed that
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  Speaker 6: helper was? They would get there and they're like, okay,
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  Speaker 6: so Brittany, tell me about this. And she's like, okay, y'all,
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  Speaker 6: now it's time for me to go dance.
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  Speaker 5: Wait, wait.
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to do a video.
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  Speaker 4: You go, people are, I'm not, whatever, we are making fun. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm going to be her and you're.
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  Speaker 3: Going to be the ghostwriter.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so just ask me some questions. We're like on
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  Speaker 3: chapter three.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: So Brittany, when you started dating- Justin, what was the
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  Speaker 6: initial reaction from your family?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I just wanted— I was just so mad because
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  Speaker 4: I just— I don't know if you know, but I could
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  Speaker 4: never go and drive my car and get coffee. I
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  Speaker 4: just wanted to get coffee and go to the spa
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  Speaker 4: with my friends, and they would not let me.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry. So the story is that you wanted coffee or?
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  Speaker 5: The story is I wanted coffee.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone was mean.
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  Speaker 4: Justin, I mean, I adored him, but then like we
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  Speaker 4: weren't going to, you know, we broke up and then
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  Speaker 4: he wrote a song about Crimea River.
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  Speaker 3: And the truth is, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, so now here's the bombshell. I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: make fun of it, but that's what I think it was.
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  Speaker 4: I think it would be a lot of off track.
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  Speaker 5: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I got pregnant and he wanted abortion.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Yes. So she did get pregnant and she did say
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  Speaker 4: she had an abortion and with Justin's baby. And she said,
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  Speaker 4: he said he just wasn't ready to be a father yet.
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  Speaker 4: But if it was up to me, I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 4: done it. Well, it is up to you, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it is up to you.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like, So that– I don't want to really
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  Speaker 4: get into that because that's a sensitive subject. But she
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  Speaker 4: does say she regrets it. So he's probably– Oh.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think abortion is a sensitive subject, Heather. I
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  Speaker 6: think people are– no, that's a sensitive subject.
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean, he's probably freaking out.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, when they broke up, he did Cry Me
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  Speaker 4: a River was the song he did. It was– now,
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  Speaker 4: you know, people are putting the pieces together.
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  Speaker 3: They really do think he, like, threw her under the bus.
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  Speaker 3: Not only, you know– Whatever. Did he get her pregnant
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  Speaker 3: and didn't want to be a dad?
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  Speaker 4: But then he did the video that made it appear
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  Speaker 4: and the words that made it that she cheated. And
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  Speaker 4: so people were pro him. But did he do all
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  Speaker 4: this to facilitate his own? That's right when his own
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  Speaker 4: career was launching.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then, of course, he did the nipple gate with
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  Speaker 4: Janet Jackson. And he's also cheated on Jessica Biel in
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  Speaker 4: which after he cheated.
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  Speaker 6: Allegedly.
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  Speaker 3: No, that is all true.
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  Speaker 6: That's confirmed?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's pretty confirmed.
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  Speaker 6: You're going through your legal notes?
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  Speaker 2: Is that confirmed?
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  Speaker 3: I do have so many notes. No, it was confirmed.
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  Speaker 3: And when they got back.
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  Speaker 6: Is that in Brittany's book? No, but- You know, he
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  Speaker 6: also cheated on Jessica.
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  Speaker 4: No, but he had- This was part of it for Justin.
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  Speaker 4: I just brought this up. He had an infidelity clause
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  Speaker 4: that he signed after they were discovered. It was like
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  Speaker 4: he was with some girl on a balcony.
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  Speaker 6: An infidelity clause in his- Like.
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  Speaker 4: A post-marriage agreement. With an infidelity clause ensuring that she
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  Speaker 4: would receive most of their assets in primary custody of
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  Speaker 4: their children if he were to cheat. So anyway, they're
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  Speaker 4: back going strong.
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  Speaker 6: Does Peter have one of those? Do you have one
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  Speaker 6: of those with Peter?
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  Speaker 4: No, but I remember I have said– I remember being
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  Speaker 4: at Chelsea lately and Chelsea saying, what would you do
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  Speaker 4: if Peter cheated? And I said I'd definitely divorce him
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  Speaker 4: because he's just not.
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  Speaker 6: That– He doesn't bring much else to the table. What
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  Speaker 6: am I hanging on to?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I think the trust is just for me to just
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  Speaker 4: be like, I think that would be really hard for
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  Speaker 4: me to be like, is everything a lie?
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  Speaker 3: Is everything an illusion?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: I understand other people can look the other way. I
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  Speaker 4: think sometimes it's if you were raised with like a
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  Speaker 4: cheating dad whose mom stayed with him, then you might
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  Speaker 4: accept it more. If your man has a helicopter, if
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  Speaker 4: we're at a level of wealth- that I could look
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  Speaker 4: the other way, then maybe.
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  Speaker 3: But no, not for me. Not for me. I'd be so,
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  Speaker 3: I'd be like, I'd be done.
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  Speaker 6: I'd be okay if Shannon cheated like with- Your wife, Shannon. Yeah, Shannon,
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  Speaker 6: my wife. If she cheated with like, she always is,
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  Speaker 6: so we see Anthony Kiedis from Red Hot Chili Peppers
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  Speaker 6: around our neighborhood a lot. And he always like makes
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  Speaker 6: eyes at her. And she's like, he's looking at me.
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  Speaker 6: He's checking me out. I go, you know what? If
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  Speaker 6: you left me for a rock star- I'd be totally
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  Speaker 6: okay with that. For some reason, I don't know why.
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  Speaker 6: I would be like, okay, I get it. He's famous.
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  Speaker 6: He's rich. He's talented and everything. There's only so much
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  Speaker 6: I bring to the table. I have a nasally voice.
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  Speaker 6: I'm a middling comedian. It's just like there's not much.
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  Speaker 6: So I would get it. I don't know. I think
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  Speaker 6: we have to have respect in life.
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  Speaker 3: Because I'm such a selfless mother.
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  Speaker 4: I would be completely fine if Peter wanted to leave
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  Speaker 4: me for a much wealthier woman so that my kids
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  Speaker 4: could benefit.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And they could fly private and be part of all
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  Speaker 4: these different golf courses. Or maybe she comes from a
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  Speaker 4: very prominent family in which the kids would get immediately
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  Speaker 4: into better schools or into jobs, buy them businesses. I'd
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  Speaker 4: be fine with that. And I'd be fine if he–
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  Speaker 4: I was ready for him to go to his 40th
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  Speaker 4: high school.
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  Speaker 2: Reunion.
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  Speaker 4: He was all set to go when I went to
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  Speaker 4: perform with Chris in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 3: And I was ready for the marriage to end. I
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  Speaker 3: was ready for him.
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  Speaker 6: You thought Peter was going to go to his 40th.
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  Speaker 3: And hook up with some.
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  Speaker 4: I was, he was on the swim team. I was
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  Speaker 4: ready for a swim team girl to show up, still fit.
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  Speaker 4: And they reminisce and I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I'm ready for it.
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  Speaker 6: And what actually happened?
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  Speaker 4: Well, what actually happened was I called him and I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: why aren't you in San Diego?
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  Speaker 3: Meaning the love of your life. For the second chapter. Like,
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  Speaker 3: so you start, you know, exchanging numbers.
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  Speaker 6: Well, because he looked and he realized none of them
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  Speaker 6: have a podcast.
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  Speaker 3: So he's like, I can't.
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  Speaker 6: What would be the point of dating?
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  Speaker 5: What would be the point? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He thinks he can make another Heather McDonald.
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  Speaker 4: He can't.
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  Speaker 2: No. No, he was home.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Home with Brandon hanging out. I'm like, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: You should have abandoned our younger son and been looking
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  Speaker 4: for your second wife.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, free weekend in San Diego.
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  Speaker 3: Drake's like, well, I guess you're stuck with him. Well,
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  Speaker 3: for now, for now. Anyway, yeah. So, okay, getting back
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  Speaker 3: to Britney Spears. So we have that.
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  Speaker 4: She said, I became a robot, but not just a robot,
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  Speaker 4: a sort of child robot. I had been infantized for
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  Speaker 4: so long. I was losing pieces of myself. That is
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  Speaker 4: part of the reason why she shaved her head. She
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  Speaker 4: was like, I just want control of something.
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  Speaker 3: In my life.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of the way I believe maybe an anorexic becomes anorexic.
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  Speaker 6: Do you really believe she was able to put all
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  Speaker 6: that thought together? Based on everything we've seen from her
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  Speaker 6: over the last several years, the Instagram videos, everything, she's
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  Speaker 6: not coherent. She's not even there. So to be able
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  Speaker 6: to sit there and go and really be so introspective
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  Speaker 6: about why she did something, I just don't buy it. Listen.
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  Speaker 3: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: When I talked to Cade, I said, I would love
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  Speaker 4: for her to come on Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 6: Did he ever think about changing his name? Because Cade
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  Speaker 6: Hudson is a little too similar to Kate Hudson.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 4: And I said, I said, I know there's no way, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'd love to have her on Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 4: I know there's no way. And he's like, yeah, do
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  Speaker 4: you have, you know, the millions and millions of dollars
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  Speaker 4: that are being thrown on her to do a sit
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  Speaker 4: down interview? But she will not. Understandably so. She's not
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  Speaker 4: in a place. I remember when she did that one.
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  Speaker 6: You know who's desperate for her to do that interview?
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  Speaker 4: Cade.
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  Speaker 6: Cade hasn't made the Britney money yet. He's he's he's
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  Speaker 6: must be relatively new.
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  Speaker 2: No, he's not.
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  Speaker 3: On her team.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, on her team, yes. So he hasn't reaped the
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  Speaker 6: benefits of the big Britney success. So he's looking for the,
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  Speaker 6: he's cashing in on her downfall.
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  Speaker 4: If he was the one that brokered this book, he's
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  Speaker 4: going to be set.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to be set.
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  Speaker 4: Apparently they're bringing Crossroads back into the movie theaters. because
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  Speaker 4: she talks about crossroads.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, interesting.
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  Speaker 4: And she said she was, you know, she thought she was,
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  Speaker 4: would be into acting, but she understood the method acting.
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  Speaker 4: This is where it kind of sounds like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: where her mental illness comes into play. She couldn't like
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  Speaker 4: get out of the character. Like once she was in
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  Speaker 4: the character, she couldn't like put it away. So she
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  Speaker 4: didn't really enjoy the acting that much.
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  Speaker 6: I hate when people say that.
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  Speaker 3: That they can't put it away. No, but I think
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  Speaker 3: for her maybe.
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  Speaker 6: I was so in the character, I just couldn't separate.
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  Speaker 6: You're a, You're an actor. You're reading lines. Get over it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's what I'm saying. She's saying about it. She
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  Speaker 4: said the dad, everyone was obsessed with her body. I
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  Speaker 4: remember where I was when I first heard about Britney
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  Speaker 4: Spears and Ryan Seacrest had her mom on the phone
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  Speaker 4: and was like, oh my God, let's talk about your daughter.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. And she, and I remember he's like, she's in
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  Speaker 3: this little school girl uniform. And I remember driving being like,
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  Speaker 3: and the mom's like, yeah, isn't it great? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: what is this?
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  Speaker 4: And then I see she's in the little Catholic school
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  Speaker 4: uniform dancing around and how everybody was dying because it
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  Speaker 4: was such a perfect sexual fantasy for everybody from a man.
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  Speaker 3: To a kid to a whatever. And so, yeah, from
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  Speaker 3: a very... She wasn't.
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  Speaker 6: Underage at that time, though.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She was like 16.
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  Speaker 4: And then there was always like, did she get a
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  Speaker 4: boob job? Everyone was wondering, did she get a boob
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: job or was she so young and the boobs perked?
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: To this day, we don't know. And I remember my
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: sister like went to go see Crossroads and was like,
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: I definitely think she got a boob job. Like everyone
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: is still, was still speculating on a girl that was.
• 14:14
  Speaker 6: looked at Jamie Lynn and seen and compared. Well, no,
• 14:19
  Speaker 6: wouldn't that be siblings? Most people have gotten. Her breasts
• 14:23
  Speaker 6: are like that, then her breasts are, no, does that
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: not work like that?
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: The point of the story is people like yourself were
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: speculating on it and going, should we look at the
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: little sister?
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: It's creep. It's creep.
• 14:34
  Speaker 6: You make it sound like little sister is an adult.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: And you remember where we were.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: When we heard that the little sister was pregnant, Zoe 101,
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: was pregnant.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: And also, I kind of think it's interesting now, her
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: reaction being that she did, you know, have a teen pregnancy, Brittany.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: And I remember they stopped her, and she was already
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: at the gas stations, barefoot, doing her weirdness. And they're like,
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: what about your sister being pregnant, Brittany? And she's like,
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: she's not pregnant.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: That's not true. So we all didn't think it was true.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: And then it was.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: Towards the end of a day at Chelsea Lately when
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: the news was confirmed and Jamie Lynn said, yes, I
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: am pregnant.
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: It was our 9-11.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: I remember because I was doing business school at the time.
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: So I would do the mornings at Chelsea Lately and
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: then the afternoon and evening I would go to class.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: And I remember I went. And like I was leaving
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: and I was driving the car and it came out
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: and I turned my car back around to come back
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: to the studio. I skipped class that night because I
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: was like, this is an emergency. This is our 9-11.
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: We must report on it.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: We stayed and then we're like, what are we going
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: to do for the cold open? And we literally filmed
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: a sketch that was like chaos in a newsroom. Like
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: things were body. We had like a dummy being thrown through.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: We did all this funny stuff of everyone like... Like
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: an alarm system going.
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: We had the time of our lives.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, maybe.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: I hope they get along more later on. Okay, let's see.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: What else did she say?
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think those were the big things. That shaved
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: her head to have control. The dad fat shaved her.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: She had daiquiris with her mom from the eighth grade on.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: I like a fresh banana daiquiri.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Actually, reading about it, I was like. I think this
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: is kind of fun.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: So they would have to go, you know, from wherever
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: they lived, Mississippi, then to Florida.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Louisiana, right?
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Louisiana to then go do the kids' show. And
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: then when they would relax, they would make daiquiris. And
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: so she would have a daiquiri with her mom. I
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: know it's bad because she was only like 13, but
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: for some reason I'm like, why don't I make more daiquiris?
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: I was literally like, why don't I make more daiquiris?
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Daiquiris are rums, right?
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: It's rum and fruit and ice.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: I used to order like a virgin daiquiri all the time,
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: like on vacations at restaurants, all that stuff when I
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: was younger. So that was, let me see if there
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: was anything else with this. Just kind of I feel
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: like I'm missing a page. Anyway, what else was there? Oh,
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: she also said this.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: I thought this was good, whether this was the ghostwriter
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: or her.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Think of how many male artists gambled all their money away,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: how many had substance abuse or mental health issues. No
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: one tried to take away their control over their bodies
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: and money. I didn't deserve what my family did to me.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: That's directly from the memoir.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: I totally agree.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, think about Robert Downey Jr., how many chances
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: he got. He's the only person that could play Iron Man. Like,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I think he's cool, but, like,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: come on. He's a super nice guy. I mean, I'm
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: sure he is, but I'm just like, you're right. So
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: much of the men around her controlling her. So she
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: shaved her head. That was my way of pushing back.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Had to go to bed early after this.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Had to go to bed early and take whatever medications
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: they told me to take. And then she's like, if
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I was so fucked up, I think it's so funny
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: about all the awards that I did win during that time.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: You know, so I will definitely get the book. Oh,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: and then also, sorry, what were you going to say?
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: I was going to say, but now she's free and
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: all she does is do Instagram dancing videos.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: So like, you're not like, I was so impressed and
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: now I'm still just stuck in my house doing these.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: And does she own a pair of pants? I mean,
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: it's everything is in a bikini bottom or whatever. It's
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: just like, I don't know. Get it together, Brittany.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: She, um.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: The audio is going to be by Michelle Williams, Oscar
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: winner Michelle Williams.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: And, you know, and people are like, what's that about?
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: I'm like, everyone- Is that because Brittany couldn't read it herself?
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, that's mean.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: No, listen, it is definitely, I've done the audio version
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: of a book. I think if I was to do
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: one now, I would be like, I don't care if
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I stumble on words, I'm not redoing it. But back
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: when I did it, they're very strict about- You know,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: and you're reading it and you're doing really well.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: And then you, oh, right.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: We did it for the lies that Chelsea Handler told me.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: And also I did it, I was the voice of
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: Chewy's voice for his little book.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: It is a, like it was a challenge.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know how strict, I think it's dumb to
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: be super strict about it now being that everyone has
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: a podcast. Why can't you just read it, add stuff?
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: But I think legally it has to be exactly the
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: words or something. And so people were speculating, why her?
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Are they friends? Is this a favorite? No, it's a
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: huge fucking fat paycheck. And everyone thinks, oh, someone like.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: Michelle- Michelle Williams is a single mom. She needs the money.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: We've been on strike for a year. She probably is like, sure,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: I'll do it. From my house, someone comes. And she's
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: probably like, I'm totally curious. I'm dying to read the book.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Let me do it.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: But I do think it's interesting to just hear like-
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: because I remember when I first got my book I
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: was like well I would like to do the audio
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: and Back then they were like, no, we're gonna get
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: a professional audio reader. And I'm like, well then forget it,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: then I'm not allowing it. And then when the book
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: was a bestseller, they're like, okay, we'll let you do
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: an abridged version.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I'm like.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: It's just so silly to me that comedians are the best.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: You know who released just audiobook was David Spade.
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: And it was the best because it's basically like an hour,
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: it's a standup and everything and he's reading it and
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: he never actually released a hard copy. He's like, I'll
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: just do the audiobook and it's so much better.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: And so, I mean, what.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Will be so interesting is if she actually, because she's
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: such a great actress, takes on the persona of Britney
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: reading it.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: That's what I would hope.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: If we're going to have an Oscar winner, I don't
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: want it just to be the way I just read it,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: you know, like this line. Over the past 15 years
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: or even the start of my career, I sat back
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: while people spoke about me and told my story for me.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Or it could be.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Over the past 15 years, and even at the start
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: of my career, I sat back while people spoke about
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: me and told my story for me. Well, after getting
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: out of my conservatorship, I was finally free to tell
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: my story without consequences from the people in charge of
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: my life.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: I would buy that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: It better be that.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: It better be that.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: And it better not just be her reading it like
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: she was reading to her kid.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: Exactly. Put some work into it. Put some effort into it.
• 21:21
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• 22:01
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• 23:01
  Speaker 4: So then, OK, now I would like to talk about
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: one of my favorite subjects, which is late in life lesbianism.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: I am currently wearing my shirt, which you can buy
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: late in life. It's a great shirt. Everything at Heather
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: McDowell dot net. The latest is Sophia Bush dating recently
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: divorced on.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: What is that? U.S. Women's National Tennis star Ashlyn Harris.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: Was Ashlyn married to a man, too?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Wait, she's tennis or soccer?
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: She's soccer, right?
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: No, it's tennis. She's a tennis player.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute.
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: It's soccer.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: I thought it was tennis. It's soccer. I think Sophia
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: likes tennis more than she likes soccer.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute. Okay, hold on. After being friends for
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: years and running in the same circle.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: Maybe it's soccer.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I'm going to read it to you.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: After being friends for years and running in the same
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: social circles, Sophia, who's an actress, and Ashton went out
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: on their first dinner date.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago. This is recent.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: They're both beginning new chapters. They're both getting divorced. Harris
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: to a woman, Sophia to a man.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Harris is 37.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: She filed for divorce from her wife. They have two kids.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Pro soccer player, Allie.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Oh, the wife was a pro soccer player.
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: And then Bush, who calls herself a lifelong soccer fan,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: is also an investor in the L.A.-based Angel City Sports.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: FC, what does that stand for?
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: Football club. That was the dead giveaway. Anyone who invested
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: in that, you're like, oh, maybe you're a lesbian.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I'm kidding. But no, you're not. Okay. And has been
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: friends with her for a year, announcing her support.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: So they, I guess she was friends with both of them,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: it sounds like. And then her, Sophia's ex, Grant, were
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: friends for 10 years and bonded during COVID.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I think COVID romances....
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like a lot of COVID romances
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: are dying now. They got together during COVID. They thought
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: this is great. And now that they can go to
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: any restaurant they want, mask free.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: Whenever they want.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, right.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: The other day I went to Trader Joe's and you
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: know how they have like a, you know, the thing
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: to wipe the.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: The carts. No one was using. You didn't use it?
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: No, I don't give a fuck.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: That's so funny. I used that even before the pandemic.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: I think I did before the pandemic too. And then
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I was like, how could anyone not? How could I
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: even do– and now.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: I'm like– But your hands don't feel gross afterward?
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: That's so interesting.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I think that's why I have such a great immune system.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: Well, but I have a great immune system too.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: And I'm the opposite.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying I was like I'm purposely not going
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: to wipe this fucking thing down because I'm just.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: As I walk through the valley of death. Here I come.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I'm doing it.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad someone's enjoying Sophia's Bush.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Very good. And they said, can we call them Harry
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Bush as their love name?
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: That was a- Well, Harry Bush.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Harris Bush.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: Well, how do you think this happened, though? Do you
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: think- I heard a theory from.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: A friend- Is your friend straight or gay?
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Straight.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: A girl or a boy?
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: A boy. Okay.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: He's my business partner, Tom.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Tom Brunel.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: Tom Brunel. His theory was that they were friends and
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: Ashlyn kind of really put the moves on hard for
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: Sophia and she instigated it. And Sophia was like, okay.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: You know. I, like I said, love a late in
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: life lesbian story.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, She could go back to guys
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: who knows.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: They could end up together. They could be just friends.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: They could be using this just like Kyle of Real
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Housewives of Beverly Hills might be using the Morgan Wade
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: thing to get people talking. That was something that just
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: came up where they said an insider said she's using
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: it for.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: A juicy storyline.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: So I said, well, I am not the insider, even
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: though I said juicy storyline. And I go back and forth.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know if Kyle is a little bit lesbian-lite.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: I think they like playing this game.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Or what?
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: It's okay.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: I think everyone's a lesbian now. And I think we're
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: going to see more of it. And I think there
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: are some people who- Everyone's a lesbian. Yes. No, I
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: think who realize that any, whether it's man, woman, whatever,
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: you come out as something, it is an attention thing.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that they're not truly a lesbian
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: or gay or whatever, but like- There is so much
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: fluidity now and going back and forth and it's not–
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: it is a publicity bomb. You get a spike.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: If Juicy Scoop tanks, I will go to Peter's 45th
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: reunion and I will get with an old lesbian swimmer.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's... And leave Peter for someone that used to
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: be on a swim team in San Diego.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: That's too buff.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I hope I don't have to do that. I don't... Well, no,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: she'll be older. Natalie Holloway.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: We now know what happened. Jordan Van Der Sloot, who
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: we knew did it, he was already in prison for
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: killing another girl. This happened in 2010. She went on
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: her high school graduation trip with her friends and went
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: off with some guys, but they didn't know.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: They had no evidence. They didn't find her body.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: And according to this indictment, Holloway's mother actually wired $ 15, 000
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: to a bank account In the Netherlands because he said,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you where she is. So he's in trouble
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: for that.
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Like for the wire– Wire fraud.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: But he has finally stated that he did bludgeon her
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: to death.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: I wonder why now he just said, oh, fine.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Because he says he's a born-again Christian and he actually
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: is sorry for the crime. Interesting.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's going to spend the rest of his
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: life in prison. He was already in prison for this
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: other girl he killed.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: So you might as well just come clean.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: And it was like, you know, I think it was.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: So weird for people because he came from money. He
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: was good looking, you know, just, but murders come in
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: all shapes and sizes and backgrounds and.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: All of it. Does that mean we can now just
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: put this case to rest?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: And remember there was a moment.
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: And move on to Jean Benet.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Well, remember there was a moment when Jean Benet's father,
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: after the wife passed away of cancer, was dating Holloway's mother.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: That's right.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: But I don't believe they're still dating today. I looked
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: it up.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: Trauma dating.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But then I read this other thing.
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: That's a show we should pitch.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: They thought they were dating.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: They thought they were dating. Then I thought that they weren't. Brad,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: I have a great interview that I want to share
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: with the people.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Okay. With Miss Pat.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: But I still have so much to discuss with you.
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: So we're going to talk more, even the juicier stuff,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: and it will be on my Friday Patreon of Hot
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Topics and Fun. Can I just always plug my- Yes.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Before we go, I want you to say where everyone
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: can find you.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: You can find me at Brad Wallach. on Instagram, W-O-L-L-A-C-K.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: And more importantly, you can find me on Funny Energy,
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: a podcast that I'm doing now. It's me and a
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: clairvoyant or energy practitioner, and we talk to funny comedians.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: And I've asked you to be on, and you have
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: said no.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I did not say no. I said I will do
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: it in November.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Because the next couple weeks, I'm super busy with BravoCon
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: and all this other stuff.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: And then, but November, then I have no more dates.
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: But we have episodes out now with Natasha Leggero, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: people are loving it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, and Natasha's coming on Juicy Scoop next week.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: Of course she is.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just found out about her from your podcast.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I'm just poaching guests. Just poaching guests that I've known
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: for 22 years.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: But yeah, it's a fun, fun listen. So Funny Energy,
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: wherever you get your podcasts. And thank you for having me, Heather.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, come over.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: I'm going to keep.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Harassing you to come back.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Go listen to my Friday show on Patreon at heathermcdolland.net.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: for more of the juice. And now we can really
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: get into it.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: I'm very excited to have comedian, podcaster, host of many shows,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: your own TV shows, Ms.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Pat. Welcome. I am so excited for my audience to
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: get to know you better today.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: Well, thank you for having me. I was excited when
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: I got a call.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, you're going to do Heather? I was like, Okay,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I tried many times to get here.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: No, you haven't.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: Yes, we have.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: My schedule just wouldn't let us.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I was even leaving.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I'm saying definitely nobody's been like, would you like her?
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: And I said no.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: So I'm glad that it worked out because I like
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: to have people in person.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Pam has pitched me many times, but it never lines up.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: But it did this time.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Good, good. So I want.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: You have a very interesting background of how your life
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: and your kids.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: So let's just let.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Everyone know how you got to have such a funny
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: point of view on your life.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Because I think your point of view is very unique.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Well, if you're not familiar with me, I always like
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: to start from the beginning. I had two kids by
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: my man by the time I was 15.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Wait, you're married? Wait, you had two kids by the
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: time you were 15?
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by my married man. I wasn't married.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, how did you meet him?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: At the skating rink.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Roller skating. God, I loved roller skating. So did he.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: So wait a minute. So you're in high school.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not in high school.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: At that time, yeah, you had to be in high school.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: No, I'm 51. So it was no middle school. So
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: you went from elementary straight to high school back in
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: those days in some area. So I was in elementary school.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: You were still like... Up to the eighth grade or whatever,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: ninth grade.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it went to the eighth grade.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, and so you're there roller skating around.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: I went to a kid's night, like a little teen night,
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: and he was there.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: And how old was he?
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: 22, married with a baby on the way.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: And so he starts flirting with you.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: No, he started coming by the next day, and we
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: kind of got to know each other. And, you know,
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: I'm this little girl, oh, boyfriend, which is with somebody's
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: whole husband.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: And I ended up getting pregnant, and I ended up
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: having two kids. Dropped out of school in the eighth grade.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Did the woman know about you?
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she knocked on.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: My door and told me I was pregnant by her husband.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Now, what city were you growing up in?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I grew up in Atlanta.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: So what did your mom say?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Uh, nothing. My mom was an alcoholic.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, pretty much I raised myself.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: So, you know, she... One thing I know about life, um.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Curses are passed down. What happened to my mom, she
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: allowed it to happen to me. But when it got
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: to me, I stopped it from happening to my daughter.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: So generation curses are true. I used to tell this bit,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: if your mom got welfare, then the child is going
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: to get welfare. The only reason why my daughter don't
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: get welfare is because she's gay and she don't.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Have no kids.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: So the curse was stopped right there when my daughter
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: decided to eat what she was born with.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: So there was no need for her to go on
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: the system.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: When did she come out?
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: My daughter?
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, child, I knew my daughter was gay from ever,
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: from the beginning. You know, you being denial, but, you know,
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: my daughter been licking plates the wrong way since she
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: was a baby.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: If your child is gay.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: And you fucking, excuse me, I don't know if I'm cursed,
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: but if you look the other way, you are.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: A damn fool.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Now, today, kids come out your vagina with a fucking
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: gay flag in their hand.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Back then, the flag would fold up nice and neat.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: But my daughter was gay from day one. There was
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: no doubting she was gay. You can look the other way,
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: but you know. I mean, it's the same when we
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: tell you if your child is sick. Or if your
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: child is not feeling well.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: It's the same thing. So you know your child is
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: not acting a certain way.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: And as she got older, and she was stuck in
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: that closet, you know, she started to get meaner. She
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: didn't like me because I didn't like gay women. So
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: just so many clues there. But I'm fine with her now.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, she go through women like we go through lipstick.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: She's a player?
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: She's a whore.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: She's a hoe.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: I told him, I'm glad you gay because you probably
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: will have a lot of kids.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, so the guy is coming around, and you have
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: the one baby with him.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: And then I have another baby. I had a baby
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: at 14, and I had another baby at 15.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Both by him?
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, both by him.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: And was the wife nasty to you? I mean, did
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: she want to, like, hurt you for coming out with
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: her baby?
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: Well, she was mad, but when she showed up and
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: realized I was a damn kid— Because she probably was 19.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: And I was 14. Wow.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: So for you to show up and, you know, and
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: you see your husband having an affair with a 14-year-old,
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: what do you do?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, my whole thing is I thought.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: I was in love and I wasn't going anywhere because
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: I just thought, you know, he said the right thing
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: to me, which is I love you.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: So I wasn't willing to let go.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: So eventually I ran her off and I thought I
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: was going to be number one child.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Bitches started falling out the sky like rain.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Well, like, I can't even imagine.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: So you're this little kid, like, having a baby, and
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: then you took care of your baby yourself every day.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: So then you couldn't go to school anymore at that point.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: I could go to school, but, you know, it was
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: more interesting stuff outside of school to do.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: Sign up for a week, go to doctor's appointments, you know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: do motherly shit. So, and then, you know, I was,
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: we was really, we was poor, so I needed.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: To take care of this baby. So I had to
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: go get a job to take care of this baby.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: As a teenager?
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: As a kid.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just can't even imagine my kids being
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: in that position.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: They would never know what to do. And then, and
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: nobody thought.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Like, we need to get the authorities involved because this
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: guy is an adult.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Nobody cares when you poor. And see, that's one thing
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: about what society don't realize. They don't care about, it's
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: really not a race thing when you poor. You just
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: fucking poor. This could have happened to a little white girl.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: This could have happened to anybody. But when you don't
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: have the right people around kids or in your life,
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: nobody cares. And nobody damn sure don't care about a
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: little black girl getting pregnant in a seven crate.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: So you manage to have these two kids. When do
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: you stop having contact with this man so you don't.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Have a third with him?
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, years.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I was with him for 10 years.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: You were with him for 10 years.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Now, how did you make sure you didn't have a
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: third baby by him?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I had an abortion. Oh, okay. A few miscarriages.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I just knew what it was costing me to take
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: care of these first two kids and how much.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I was struggling. I was like, I don't want no
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: more kids. I can't. You know, I had an abortion
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: when I was 16 right after my son. And I
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: just said.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: I can't afford it. And so I divorced my mom.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: I became a emancipated minor. And I was like, I
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: can't do this. This is just costing me so much. And,
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: you know, when you go out and fill out an
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: application at 16 years old for a full-time job, and
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: people are like, you're supposed to be in fucking school.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: So I couldn't really get a job without a work permit.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: So I became a drug dealer. Nobody wanted a work
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: permit for that. They just wanted good crack. And good
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: crack is what I had.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Now, how did you get involved in that?
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Thank God for Ronald Reagan.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: He dropped drugs in the black community, as we say.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: According to society.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: So this was like what year? This 80 what?
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Late 80s.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: The black community about 80. My daughter was born in 86.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: So by 85, 86, by 88, I was selling dope.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: And how would you, like, how does that work?
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Like, so you get it from somebody.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: We buy a little bit.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: I took my welfare check at the time, which was $ 230,
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: and I bought my, I.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Think, I can't even remember. I think it used to
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: be called a quarter.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: It was called like $ 200 back in the day. And
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: you would cut it up, and you would get $ 400
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: worth of crack out of it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: And you just keep doubling it. And that's what I did.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: And then people just knew?
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, people just knew who Rabbit was because I had
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: my own little trap.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, your name was Rabbit?
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: That's my childhood name, yeah.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: The Jordanians are like rappers. We don't use our government names.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: So then people just knew you'd be at this location
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: at this time?
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all the time.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: It was like when you set up a trap, it's
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: like you're a stove front. Back in those days, people
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: sold drugs for respect. You don't come to my trap.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: This is my area. So I had my own little area,
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: which was my old neighborhood where I grew up at.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: But what about the other drug dealers?
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Did they respect you or were they mad that you
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: were doing well or that you were a woman?
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Well, I was the most popular drug dealer in the trap,
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: so I didn't have a problem. If you tried to sell,
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: it really didn't affect me because everybody came to look
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: for me.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: So is that when you realized that you were the
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: funniest drug dealer in town?
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: No, I wasn't funny then. No, no, no.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: What about just having like a sparkling personality? Like if
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: I'm going to buy, you know, it's just like anything.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: If I'm going to go to a doctor, if I'm
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: going to go, I want to go to the person that,
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: you know, I have some good convo with.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: Well, you can't really make people laugh when they hide
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: because they don't even see you.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: So I didn't realize I had such a big personality.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I was just outspoken. I said whatever the hell I
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: wanted to say. And if you laugh, you laugh.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: I wasn't there for entertainment. But, I mean, to me,
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: I was a pretty good damn drug dealer. Comedy came
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: along later once I....
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: I went through the welfare to work program. I met
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: a caseworker.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: This is the first time I voted for Bill Clinton
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: because he was cute.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: So I went through.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: That program and I met a caseworker, which the caseworker
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: thought that I was a, like, she was like, what
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: do you want to go to school for? Because at
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: the time you had to get your GED or you
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: would lose your benefits or you had to go to work.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: That was, it was welfare to work program.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: So my caseworker was like, you dropped out in eighth grade.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Why don't you get a GED? And I was like,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: for what? And she said, as I went through the
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: GED program, she was like, you're really funny. Why don't
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: you try comedy? I said, what the hell is comedy?
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: And she was like, like Richard Pryor.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: I didn't even know Richard Pryor was a comedian.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I thought he was just a funny-ass actor.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: And so I started to do some research at the
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: LaWare Fair Center. And I was like, this man make
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: this kind of money telling jokes? And I was like, shit.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I tell shit all the time on the phone talking
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: to my girlfriend. So I went to an open mic.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: In Atlanta.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: In Atlanta. A place called The Pub. And I never stopped.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: So the first time you got up there, did you
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: have even like notes written down or I'm just going
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: to get up and tell a story or what?
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: I had a joke about my brother being a fat
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: cat burglar. And it was this lady in the audience
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: that was drunk, was acting a fool. So I immediately
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: turned my attention to her and just started talking shit
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: to her.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: And everybody was crying. I was so nervous. And I
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: was like, this is it. Oh, I can do this.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: So you do a lot of crowd work still?
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: No.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, now you don't.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I tell a lot of stories.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: I do some crowd work towards the end just to
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: mingle with the audience. But I mostly tell a lot
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: of stories about, you know, how I grew up or
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: being married for 31 years or, you know, having just life.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, so then when did you get married?
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: 1992.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: So had you started comedy yet or no?
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: No.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: And who did you marry?
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: A nice guy named Garrett.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: And how did you meet him?
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Actually, we went to an open mic night, and it
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: was Bruce Bruce was the host.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: So you were just watching it?
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: We all went to hang out one night.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, but you weren't performing yet?
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Mm-mm.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: It wasn't even on my mind. We just went to
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: go and watch Bruce Bruce. It was lip singing and
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: comedy together.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: So my friend knew my husband's brother. So we said, hey,
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: we just all go down here and have a good
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: time together, and that's what we did.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: And then, so they got married.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: Yep, got married at a courthouse, and my kids needed
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: a father. And I ended up getting custody of my
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: sister's four kids, raised them for 10 years.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Gave them back.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, so let's talk about that, because I remember that
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: being part of some of your sitcoms that you've sold
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: and stuff, was about also taking care of your sister's kids, right?
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: So how did that come about?
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: So my sister was on crack at the time, and
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: then I was coming out of the world of selling
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: crack because my husband was up.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: A church guy.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: The new Garrett was?
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: He just wasn't, he wasn't raised the way I was.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: So he was like, well, you know, just go get
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: a job. And I'm like, get a job? Who get
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: a job? Why don't you get a job with all
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: this money out here? So for love, I traded in
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: the streets. And right after I traded in the streets,
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: my sister was losing her kids. And the defect worker said,
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: somebody don't come get them today. I have to put
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: them in a home.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: And so my sister had four girls. And I was like, nah.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I said, this is family.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: I don't want that to happen. So I went and
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: got them. And for 10 years, I raised them.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: And so when you took the four kids into your house,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: with your kids, what were the ages when all six
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: kids were in your house?
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Well, the two oldest was the same age.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: I think there was around eight or nine, because that's
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: when I met my husband. My son was probably seven.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: My sister had a six-month-old. She had a one-year-old. Six-month-old,
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: she had a baby about to turn two. And then
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: she probably had a three-year-old. So we had babies, babies.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: And my husband had no kids at the time.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: And now he has six.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: Well, at the time, he had six.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Wow. And you never had any more kids yourself?
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, I had two by my husband.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: So then you had two with Garrett.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Later on, I had two more.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, so then when you had the four kids and
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: your sister is... Not getting better?
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: No, she's not getting better.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: And at any point, was she calling you and wanting
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: to see the kids or being resentful? How was your
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: relationship with her being that she was, you know, a
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: drug addict and you're raising her kids?
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: I don't have patience with people. You know, it's no
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: problem with me saying fuck off. And for years, she
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: didn't see the kids, but. Where I went wrong, I
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: only had temporary custody because I always wanted to give
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: my sister her kids back.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: When she was able and ready. And she found out
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: that I had temporary custody. I never turned it over
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: to permanent custody. And she came and got them. And
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: they're all on drugs now. So now, fast forward to 2023,
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: I'm raising one of the kids who I raised.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I'm raising her.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: Four kids because she's on drugs. And I've had them
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: now for 10 years. Her baby was hard. I think
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: a month, not even a month old when I got her.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Well, this is exactly what you talked about. The curse.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: So that child. So after the 10 years, then they
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: went back to her.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: My sister's kids.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: Your sister's kids went back to her. And at that
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: point they were.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Pre-teens, teens?
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: They were pre-teen. They was in high school, get grades
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: and everything. And they all just got on drugs.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: And how did you feel about them going back to her?
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Were you like relieved or.
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: Were you worried?
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: No, I was very hurt because I knew how my
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: mama raised us. And my sister was a lot like
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: my mother. And at first I started to fight it.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: And then everybody was like, oh, you know, you should
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: give her her kids back. And I was like, y'all
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: know this girl is not capable of taking care of
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: her kids. You know she, and I used to tell
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: my brothers, I said, you know, She's going to do
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: the same thing to those kids all mama did to us.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: And so, you know, I didn't get any support from
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: the family. So I was like, fuck it. I'm going
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: to go live my life. My whole life I've been
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: here trying to save my family. Yeah.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: So I said, fuck them. And I just walked away
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: and I let her have her kids. So every now
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: and then I would bump into them.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: My niece, who was a really good track star, ended
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: up immediately getting pregnant.
• 47:15
  Speaker 8: Then....
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: The other ones got pregnant.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: And if she was with you, if she would have
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: stayed with you, she probably would have gone on or
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: gone on to play for, you know, college or something.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, whatever on or something.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: We had plans.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: She was a senior. We was filling our college applications
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: when our mama came in.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. What a heartbreaking.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: So when she left and she got pregnant, you know,
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: the struggle was real.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I just cut them off because sometimes, you know. You
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: have to, sometimes you have.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: To remove toxic situations out of your life.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: If not, then you become toxic. So I just said,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: that's it. You know, fuck them.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: And that was, let's say I know my niece dropped
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: out of school. My niece got.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Pregnant at 11. 11 of 12.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: 11.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: And I remember because my sister called me and said
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: that the school was mad because she's so fucking dumb.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: The school was mad because she gave the kids in
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: the sixth. Because her daughter's birthday was late and she
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: was held back. And I think she was in the
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: sixth or seventh grade pregnant. And she gave our baby
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: shower invitation.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: And I was like, are you fucking stupid?
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: This is not a birthday party. So I just continued
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: to remove them out of my life. And then I
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: was in Atlanta one day, because all of them had kids.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: One of them went to jail for abusing the kids.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: It was all kind of crazy shit.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Make a long story short. So you're just doing your
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: own thing, and then your phone rings.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: And they're like, can we please speak to you? And
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: you're just like, oh, shit. I know this is something.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: Well, they started to call, and I just really removed
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: myself from them.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to be bothered with anybody anymore.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Now, at this point, when the sister takes over the kids,
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: do you have a career in comedy yet?
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Comedy is just now kicking off. I'm trying to be
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: a comedian.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: And does the sister know that?
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she knows that.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: And is she like, go girl, or is she like, oh,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: you think you're all that?
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: They didn't think it was serious until it got to
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: this stage now.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: So you're not rolling in the money.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: You're just struggling like everybody else trying to be the
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: good aunt and mom figure to all these kids.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no. When they was with me, I didn't have nothing.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I'm on welfare. I'm based on income housing. I'm working.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: And I'm just doing things to get by. And then
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: comedy come along, and I find something. And it comes
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: along right after my sister take her kids.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Okay. Sometimes you got to be still and let God
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: guide you. I was heartbroken.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't use the word depression because the
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: word depression is too strong. Because when you use that word,
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: your mind controls the.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Body and how the body feels. So if you speak that,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: the body will start to feel that.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: But I was heartbroken because I knew Where I was
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: trying to break a generation of Christ, I mean Christ,
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: generation of curse of high school dropout teenage pregnant molestation.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: My sister just threw her kids back into that pit.
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: So my daughter and my niece was the first two
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: to graduate in three generations. And I just said, I'm
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: going to focus on my own kids. Because for that
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: part of my life, I had focused on saving family
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: members along with my kids.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, I was neglecting my own kids.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: So I went ahead and I raised my kids and
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: And I always had the family that I wanted to have,
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: and I just didn't talk to them. And then fast
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: forward 10 years ago, I'm riding in Atlanta, and I
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: get a phone call, and my niece tells me she
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: needs pampers.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: For her baby, and she's pregnant with another baby.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: She had four kids. She had three outside the stomach
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: and one inside. And I don't even think she was 20.
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: And my other niece who I raised, she's 22, and
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: she got seven kids. So... And I asked her where
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: she was at, and no lie, I was right at
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: the exit where she was at. So I went to
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: this drug-infected area and dropped off some pampers and milk,
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: and I just said, Lord, you're not about to trick
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: me into this bullshit again. And I ended up having
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: Christmas dinner with them, and I brought her home with
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: her four kids back to my house.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: And this is only 10 years ago, so now you've
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: been successful for quite a while.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: So I get these kids, and my career's starting to
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: take off.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: I go on tour with Cat Williams and stuff, and
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: And make a long story short, I was going to
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: get these kids.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: She run off and leave me with these four kids.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: So she comes to Christmas.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: She moves in with me in Indiana. Okay. I'm helping
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: her get off drugs. I put in a drug. This
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: is my niece.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: A drug rehab. Her baby dad is in jail for
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: armed robbery. I'm like, I teach her how to drive.
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: I buy her a car. I help her get an apartment.
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: I help her get a job.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: She makes supervisor.
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: I'm putting in a GED program. Everything to make her
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: life right. And she said, I'm missing something, which is drugs.
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: And she get back on drugs.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: What was her drug?
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Everything.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: You name it, she was doing it. She just leave
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: me with these four kids. I tell her, come back
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: and give me four cusses.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: And she said, no.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: Because, you know, they're my kids. I don't want to
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: give you four cusses. I said, Lord, I'm putting them
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: in the fucking foster care. And I tell this bit
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: on stage. And God whispered in my ear and said,
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: keep them and I got you. My whole career took
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: off within that year.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: I have chills right now.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Within that year.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Were you really on stage and you really felt a voice?
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I felt a voice.
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: It was a warm voice in my right ear. And
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: it said, keep them. Because I said, I can't do this.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: I said, I'm trying to have a career. I'm trying
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: to do something right. And I got four fucking kids. And,
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: you know, my daughter was getting ready to go to college.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: She wanted to go to HBCU, which is a historic
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: black college. And, you know, we live in Indiana. My
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: daughter don't apply to Howard. She don't apply to other majors.
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: And she got accepted. And so my career is starting
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: to take off.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: So you feel like everything is just like finally in place. Yeah.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: And it's like you're living like a normal person.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: Now your daughter is about to go to college. And
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: how old was your other child at that point?
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: My other child, she was 17.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: So he was 16. He probably in the 10th grade. Okay.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: So like life is finally getting easier. They're self-sufficient.
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: You're not raising any babies.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: Well, no, I got my nieces there with the four kids. No, no,
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: but I'm saying, like, so that you're like, okay. And
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: then you hear that, no, keep them.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: So then what happened?
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: And so when I said, well, we can't put them
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: in the foster home.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: We done had this baby for six months. You love
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: this fucking baby.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Right, of course.
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: You know, she didn't actually be here. We saw this
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: baby come off drugs. We saw this baby do, you know.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: How old are the nieces' kids that you're fostering?
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: At the time, it was a six-month-old baby, a two-year-old girl,
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: and a boy and a girl that was six.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Five or six. So I said, I was a girl
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: five and a boy six. So I said, you know.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: All little, yeah.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: All little.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: I left them at my house. So I said, you
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: know what? I'm going to keep them, but I don't
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: know how. So since I'm a convicted felon, to make
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: a long story short, the state of Indiana said you
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: don't qualify for anything.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: Because you got caught for selling drugs?
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm an ex-drug dealer. I'm a convicted felon.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: So they said, well, if you took my niece's kid,
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: they'd have gave you $ 750 or $ 900 per child. Since
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: it was me and I was a family member, they
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: only gave me $ 310.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: For four kids.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: A month.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: A month.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: No food stamps. No child care.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Nothing. Nothing. I couldn't get anything.
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: So to get food stamps, I had to put my
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: whole household on there. Well, my husband worked at General Motors.
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: I wasn't going to do that. I worked my ass
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: to get off the system.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: I wasn't going back for these kids. So I said,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: fuck it. So make a long story short.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Don't make it short. This is so interesting.
• 54:48
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: And sad, but inspiring, too. Like, I want to know, like.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: I appreciate you telling how you would change your mind
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: and know that you're doing the right thing.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: It's going to reward you.
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: You have to believe that everything happens for a reason.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: Why God took those four kids and placed them in
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: my life, I realize it now. But at the beginning,
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: I was pissed off. So I don't have permanent custody.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: Nobody's trying to give me permanent custody. So my mind said, well,
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: go apply for temporary custody, right?
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Because she didn't leave. She just left the kids and
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: they came to the house and said, well, you got
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: food in the refrigerator.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: You can take care of the kids. Well, no, I
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: can't if I don't have no way of talking and speaking.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: For these kids.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: So I go.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: I literally, I go to the courthouse and get temporary custody.
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: I go in front of a judge. He hit the
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: mic and said, I am a fan. Because I did
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: a popular show, Bob and Tom.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: You know Bob and Tom? Yeah, yeah. And he said, well,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: do you want permanent custody? And I said, yes.
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: And that day I got permanent custody. And people was like,
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: how the fuck did you get permanent custody? I said,
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: God placed me in front of the right judge who
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: understood my situation.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: And who wanted these kids to have a future.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: So now the youngest is 10 years old. It won't
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: shut the hell up, but I love her to death.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: And I have two ninth graders and I have a
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: seventh grader. And they're thriving. They're great.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: That is awesome. Now, where is the mother?
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Selling pussy in the West End of Atlanta somewhere. I
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: But she doesn't reach out.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Well, not really.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: What about in the day of social media?
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: I don't put them on social media. They don't have
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: a phone.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: I know, but she doesn't try to DM you or
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: find you.
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: She's nowhere, man.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: She's not trying to.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm a no-nonsense person. I don't play no games.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: I'm 51 years old, Heather. I don't have time for
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: this shit.
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: You're not going to come here with your crackhead stories
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: and try to play with my emotions.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Leave them alone.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: Just leave them alone. You saw what happened when your
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: mama stepped back in your life. So let's break this
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: cycle and leave these kids alone.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Let them grow up.
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: If they decide to come back and let you be
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: their mama, then you can be their mama. They know
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: who their mama is. They call me auntie. They only
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: call me mama when they want something. Or they introduce
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: me as their parent. So, you know, nobody got to
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: really know our business.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Right. They know I'm their grandaunt or whatever the hell
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I am. I don't know what I am to them.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I'd be a grandaunt. Yeah.
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: I don't try to, I don't, we don't discuss their mother.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: We don't discuss their father.
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: All I'm here to do is love you and give
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: you the foundation to start off of, a solid foundation
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: to start off of, something that I never had.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Now, what happened with Garrett?
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: I'm still married.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you said I was married for 31 years.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: No, I'm married 31 years. Oh, you're still? Oh, good.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: I'm glad.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: The whole time I was waiting for the sad part
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: of when Garrett, after everything he's done.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't trade him in for the world.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, good, good.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: No, I'm still married.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, great.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, so then you start doing standup and I feel like,
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: how long, I feel like you've been popping for like what,
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: like 15 years?
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: That we're like, what was your first series?
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: I remember reading that you had a series, maybe it
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: was just a pilot, but I remember reading like what
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: your pilot was about, about taking in the four kids
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: and all this stuff. And I was like, wow, this
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: is really, I'm excited, this is interesting.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: Um, yeah, so I did, I did Joe Rogan and
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: I did Mark Maron and I'm not lying. When I
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: tell you they released those podcasts within the same week,
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: Hollywood came knocking and they was like, we want, this
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: is a TV show. And I met like six or
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: seven studios.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: What year is this now around?
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: I don't remember. Five years ago.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Only five?
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: It must have been longer than that.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: Nine years ago.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: No, I think it's more longer than that. Yeah, I
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: think it's more like 10 or something.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like 10 now because it took five years
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: to get on TV and I'm going into the fourth
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: season of it.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: So, I went through a couple production companies and, you know,
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: my Fox, I landed at Fox, which was good, everybody thought.
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: And then, went through two writers, and it was Lee
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: Daniel and Ron Howard Project. And so, you know, Hollywood,
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: you don't get three chances to develop no sitcom. They
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: throw your ass out the door. But for some reason,
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: I got three chances. And so it had to be good.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I said, hold on.
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: I got this person for you, but I haven't developed
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: them right. So all while I go through these two, writers,
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: it's a young kid named Jordan E. Cooper sitting somewhere
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: in his last year of high school getting ready to
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: go to college.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: And he's going to his college for final here in
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: New York.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: And he ended up getting on the same agency that
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: Lee Daniel was with. And when they threw the show
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: out the second time, Lee asked Fox, give her one
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: more chance.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: We got something here.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: Make a long story short, he said, I got this kid.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go to the street. I found this kid,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Jordan E. Cooper.
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: And this kid studied me so hard.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: And he's only like a freshman in college?
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: He's only like 21, 22.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: In college or just finished?
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: No, he was in college his last year. Wow. He
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: was getting ready to graduate. And he's a writer. Just
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: drop out.
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: I said, boy, don't drop out. Finish your college degree.
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: You don't wait this many years. So in his last
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: year of college, we were writing. We were trying to
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: develop the show. We take it over to Fox.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: So he studied. He watched all your stand-up specials.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Everything. But Fox said, this boy never developed nothing. How
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: are we going to let him come in and develop
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: a show? This is Fox. He's 21, 22, no.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: So as Ron Howard Company and Fox is looking for
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: our third.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Writer, I tell the kid, I say, look, boy, they're
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: never going to hire you. They're lying to you.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: Let's write a pilot. And if it don't work, I
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: just say I wrote the pilot. So we up for
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: a week straight putting this thing together. He kind of
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: had it in his head. And I just gave him,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: you know, I gave him the vehicle.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: He already had the drivers.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: He already had the show cast, to be honest with you.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: We get it together. We writing this pilot. We going
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: back and forth. Eight days in, I said, Lee Daniel,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: I want you to read something. And he's like, what
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: do you want me to read? And he's like, you
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: need to stop trying to write stuff. We already getting
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: you writers. But as I'm talking to these production companies,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: which is Ron Howard Company, they was like, we got
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: four more writers for you to meet.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like, write, motherfucker, write.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: Write, hurry up and write.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: And he's like in college still like going to classes.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, going to classes. And then writing the sitcom. That's amazing.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Writing the sitcom.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: That's amazing.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I handed over to Lee Daniel. He read it. He
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: called me back. He said, who the fuck wrote this?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: And I said, me. And he said, no, you didn't.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Everything is spelled right.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: And so I tell him the kid that he brought
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: to me wrote this. And he couldn't, Foxham couldn't believe it.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: They was like, okay, he can write the pilot. So
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: we had pretty much wrote the pilot.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: And not only did we write the pilot, we had
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: the whole first season.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Planned out had they picked it up.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: And so you shot it?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: No, actually.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: You filmed it, or what happened? Actually, they switched the character.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: They allowed me to be me more. Okay.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: So with that, my sitcom is the first to do
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: that type of, like, cussing, really pushing the envelope, I believe.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So they was like, well, we can't show this
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: on network. And so... The co-creator's like, well, let's take
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: her to a streaming service.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: Hulu bought it. And Hulu buys it and say, hell no.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: This is too edgy now.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: Well, I just don't think, I think some people at
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: Hulu wanted it, but their decision making didn't understand what
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: it was like to be a black mom in America.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: They didn't think people like me existed because they never
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: interact with a Miss Pat before.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: But it's a whole audience out there for that type
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: of mom. You know, blunt, honest. Set your black ass down.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Don't make me slap your white.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: You know, I said all.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Kinds of shit on my show.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: So I just think that they didn't think it was
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: a market or audience for that.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Then they let it loose. They dropped it. I'll never
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: forget how I.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: Was going on stage, sold out in Raleigh, North Carolina.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: I get a phone call, Lee Day. You could hear
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: the crackling in his voice.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: He said, Hulu didn't pick you up. And I said, okay,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: that's fine. I said, but I'm sold on it. I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: got to go out. He said, are you okay? I said,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: I'm fine.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: Now, one time in my heart did I not believe
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: that they would pick up that show. Somebody, two months
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: go by, BET Plus would like to do your show.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: And I said, what the hell is BET Plus?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: And so my co-creator, he knew everything about TV.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: You know, if it was a streaming service that was new,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: he knew about it. And he said, oh, my God,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: it got less than a million followers. We're going to
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: die over there.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: And I said, one thing I know.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: About life, from selling crack all the years that I
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: sold it, if your product is good, the people will come,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: no matter where the fuck you at. Let me tell
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: you something, you got some crackhead that will climb to
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: the moon to get what they want.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: And I'm just being honest.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: And so we created this show, went over to BET,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: they released it, bam, it shut the app down.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Because so many people were subscribing, watching. So many people
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: came over to BET. That is so awesome.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: And so now that show is a sitcom.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Based off of my life.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: And you filmed that in Atlanta?
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: I filmed that in Atlanta.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: Awesome.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: So that's close.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: So it's like you could just go out of your
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: door and go to the studio. Do you do it
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: in front of a live audience or a single camera?
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: We do it in front of a live audience, which
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of people got away from. But no, baby,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: we have a party.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: When I tell you people are lined up to come
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: see Miss Pat's show taped live, and I think we're
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: the only one that's doing it in Atlanta. So we
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: taped a pilot in L.A. And we just took everything
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: that we learned from L.A.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Over to Atlanta.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: Which was a little hard in the beginning because they
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: don't shoot live shows. And people are not used to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: coming to see live sitcoms shot like that. Yeah.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: But it worked.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, the third season was popping. We was turning
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: people away.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: Amazing. And now you have another show.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: I'm a judge.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: And so tell us about that because I love this.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: So it's called Miss Pat Settles It.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: So.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: After the Miss Pat show was pretty successful, my agents
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: and things, we started to talk with Viacom and BET.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: And I ended up getting the overall deal over there.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: Because I like being at Viacom because they understand who
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: I am. And they allow me to create in my voice.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: They don't try to strip me of my voice. So
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: I signed a two-year deal over at Viacom. And my
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: deal was to bring them more shows. So I brought
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: them the court show. And I said, hey, I got
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: an idea, but I think it should be somebody else.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: And they was like, no, what about you? And I said,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: what you mean, what about me? I'm a convicted felon.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: They was like, I said, I can't be a judge.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: I've been to jail.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: They was like, oh, it's TV. You can be Jesus.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: So I taped it, and I was like, oh, I
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: like this.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: So people come in with like a people's court. It's
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: like a people court.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: And then you kind of feel. So like what are
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: some of the cases?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: Tell me one case that you got to decide who
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: should get what.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: Well, this one black lady went to her friend. She
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: wanted a Farrah Fawcett haircut.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: Farrah Fawcett.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: You know, everybody want to look like Farrah Fawcett. And
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: I don't want to know why these two. Plus-sized women
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: thought they could look like Farrah Fawcett, but she cut
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: the wig up like Joe Dirt.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, she brought the wig to be styled. To be styled.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: And colored like Farrah Fawcett.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: And when I tell you she chopped that bitch up
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: like it had been through a blender. And what was crazy,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: because I didn't know it was real cases and real people,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: so when I said, oh, I'm going to give you $ 5, 000,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: but I'm going to give you an extra $ 2, 000 because
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: you cried.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: And they was like, you're messing up the budget.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: I said, what are you talking about?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: They said, Ms.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: Pat, this is real money.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: I said, this shit real?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: You didn't even know that until you were actually filming?
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Until I was actually filming, just giving out money.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, that's hilarious. I love that.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, so I want to ask you a little bit.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: Since you're in Atlanta, I am a big Housewife fan.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: Have you had any dealings with the real Housewives of Atlanta?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: Do you know any of them? Have you ever, like,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: popped in for a scene or anything?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: I just did some promo with Nene.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: I love her.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do, too. And Candace, I see Candace all
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: the time.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Candace the best.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, but who is, I.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: Don't really, I bump into them at parties and stuff,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: but I've never really watched the Housewives.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: Oh, okay.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: So I'm not a reality type TV person.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: My background is.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, those are the two, Candy and NeNe, like,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: they are, like, well, NeNe, you know, pursued acting and
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: everything before and then since she's acted.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: So she's in the professional realm. And then, of course,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: Candy is, too.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: So, like, the other ladies are just, you know, really housewives,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: you know, that got on the show.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, so I see everybody, you know, nice or... out,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: you know, whatever.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: I'm in that little circle now. So if I go
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: to an event, you probably see most of them.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. And now I want to ask you,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: what do you think? Now, I am going to buy
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Jada's book today.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: I'm going to the bookstore because I want to read
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: it myself. And I also want to listen to the
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: audio because I'm hearing all the clips about Jada and Will,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: and you're probably seeing all the clips too of the
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: things that she has said. And so I just want
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: to get your opinion of them in general.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: What do you think is going.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: On I don't know what's going on. I tell people
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: all the time, mind your damn business. If you mind
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: your damn business, I got other stuff going on.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: My husband got diabetes.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: He passed gas that night. He snored really loud. I
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: don't give a damn about no Jada and Will. I'm
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: hoping she's doing all of this to make this book
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: a bestseller.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: No, I think she is.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: I'm buying the book, too.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you something. I'm buying the book, and
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: I don't even read no damn book. I'm definitely reading
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: the book.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, it's just she's dropping a lot of
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: things that seem a little controversial.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: Nobody cares about.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: She was up here talking about what you call an alopecia.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: The man been dead for over 20 years.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: Tupac. She said Tupac had alopecia too.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: He ain't got a head no more.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: You know what she also said? I forgot to say
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: this because I talked about this on the show. Do
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: you know that like Willow, the daughter of she and Will,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: wrote some letter to Tupac and say, please come back
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: down from heaven so my mommy can be happy. And
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: Will was aware of it.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 8: Well.
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  Speaker 3: That is like, I just feel bad for Will.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: So Heather.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: And then other people say I shouldn't feel bad for Will.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Well, Heather, it's obvious you never had any good black
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: dick before.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: You are 100% correct.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: When you get good black dick. I haven't had any.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: Well, when you get some good black dick, you will
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: be writing Jesus, too, to bring them good black dicks back, okay?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: So obvious Willow knew what Tupac had put on her
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: mama and she wanted to see her mama grin. And
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: I tell people all the time, there's a difference between
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: thug dick and educated dick. They don't run in the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: same circle.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: What's the difference of the circles?
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: One arm pound you, one arm hunt you.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: Wait, one will what?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: One pound you.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, one pound.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: And the other one goes gentle and slow.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: Wait, so which one is which?
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: The ghetto dick.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: The ghetto is the pounder or the ghetto is the.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: The ghetto is the pounder.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: That's good sex. When a guy got a tattoo.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: They can't read, they thugged out, and they can fuck.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: What about women who fall in love with the guy
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: behind the bars? I'm fascinated by that. That's who they're
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: seeking out.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: They visit them. They didn't know them even before they
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: got in.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: What do you think of women like that? Women that do,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: they like having a boyfriend who's in prison. They feel
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: they're going to save him.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: They go visit him.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: I think them bitches are crazy.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, but you got to say, you little thugs
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: done got some good sex, Heather.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: They do. But I don't know.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: It's according to how long he been in jail for me. Because,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: you know, you don't want somebody to come down and
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: just want to switch it back out because they on
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: the other side. You know, some people like men that
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: go both ways. I like my man that go one way. So.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, you mean some that are bisexual?
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 7: Yes, bisexual. Yes.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: I always remember that one of my favorite Oprahs was
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: the Down Low episode.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: Do you remember that one? No. You don't remember the episode?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: I live in Atlanta.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: This was like so eye-opening. So Oprah had on all
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: these black guys who then were like were on the
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: Down Low. That was the first time I ever heard
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: the Down Low.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Heather.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, on Oprah. But this is like 20 years ago.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: This is a long time ago. The height of Oprah.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: And they were like, look, we have wives, girlfriends, but
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: we just like having sex with men. But we don't
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: want to be in a parade. We don't want to
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: live a gay lifestyle. We're just on the down low.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: And I just– and I'm hearing these women's stories about
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: how they never knew and then they came home one
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: day and what they're seeing. And I'm like– and I
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: guess it was because for this age of men, which
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: now these guys would be, you know, 50, 60 years old,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: it was just so unaccepted to be gay.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: To be gay.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: No, only to– see– It was only to be unaccepted
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: to be gay to people who wasn't gay. If people
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: were minding their fucking business, we would have never been unaccepted.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: I never gave a fuck about nobody being gay. I
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: gave a fuck about my own vagina. I can only
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: keep up with my vagina. I can barely keep up
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: with it. When the hell get the groin to look
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: like the Gap Band down there? So I can't be
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: worried about nobody else. That's the problem with society. We
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: too busy worrying about anybody else. All you got to
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: do is be happy.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: If you're happy, you can't notice what other people is doing.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: You're only noticing shit because you're miserable.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: Yes, exactly.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: And the stuff that you're noticing is somebody else's happiness.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: That's why you got an opinion. And that's what's wrong
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: with the world. Jada and Will have been switching out
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: each other for years. Why is everybody shocked?
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: Well, she said they're not.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: She said all those rumors about them being swingers and
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: gay and open marriage, whatever, was not true until seven
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: years ago when they said they were separated.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: Then she got with her son's friend. And I can
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: understand why.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Did you not see his penis? August? It was huge.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: How did you see August's penis?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: And some draws on Instagram, right?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Is there a photo of him like walking across the
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: street and you see it?
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: No, it ain't that kind of dick, Heather.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Oh. What the fuck do you think?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: Black men got cow dicks? No.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: There's times when you get a guy, whether it's Jon Hamm,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: who's white, or anybody of any ethnicity, and they're wearing
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: a certain kind of pant, and you can really see
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: it through the clothes. Did you see it naked or
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: through the clothes?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: I think I saw it through the clothes.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, and it looked big.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it wasn't even hard.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, but you a middle-aged woman, right?
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: Come on, Will Smith is 52, 55 maybe. He ain't
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: doing what Olga Agostina doing, whatever his name. He ain't
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: doing what he doing, okay?
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: So let's just keep it real. I can understand why
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: she jumped on that bike. It had both wheels. A
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: 55-year-old man got a flat somewhere.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: I love your analogies and expressions. That is really what
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: makes your comedy, I think, so funny and unique.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, you're married. Sometimes to keep the spice, you
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: got to reminisce. Ooh, Lord, I remember when 1992. Then
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: you start imagining that person.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, you hollering. He's like, why
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: are you hollering? You're like, you're looking like, oh, it's you.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: That never happened to you? Don't say it.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: I've been married 23 years.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Yes. Okay.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been married 23 years.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: But, you know, listen, I'm watching The Golden Bachelor.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be on it. So now I'm like,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: I'm happy.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: I'm happy.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: You know, but there's times when your friends are getting
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: divorced and they're getting some. fresh dick, and you're hearing
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: the stories at the dinner, and then you come home
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: to the man in the lazy chair or whatever, and
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: you're like. But in the end, you know, as long
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: as you have a good man, it's so important. But
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: that's just all the truth of it, you know?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: I truly understand why middle-aged women are outdating older men.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 8: I mean, younger.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Younger, yeah. I can't do it.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: Because they lazy. I have a 37-year-old son. I could
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: never see me dating a 37-year-old. That's just not my thing. Plus,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: they got too much energy for me. I just want
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: to lay down and.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Look at TikTok. I don't want you rubbing on me.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: You know, you got to fix yourself up for them.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: You got to put on a good bra.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: It's hard to tell a 37-year-old why your titties are uneven.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: So I'm going to keep what I got because I
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: don't have to explain stuff. My husband know how to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: untouch my navel, I mean my nipple from my navel.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: A 37-year-old wouldn't know. Why is that connected, boy?
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: Pull it apart, okay?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to keep what I got.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: Too much instruction.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: Too much instruction.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: We're done.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. So funny.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for coming on. Now, you have
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: a big tour with lots of dates.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do. It's called my first theater tour. Call
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: Your Girl Done Made It.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. That's what it's called? Oh, Your Girl Done? Oh,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. So you're going everywhere. Minneapolis this weekend.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: Dallas, Washington, D.C.? Oh, you said you're at the Howard Theater,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: did you say?
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: I have two shows at the Howard.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: I performed there.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: It's beautiful. I heard it was beautiful.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 6: It's beautiful.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: That's in Washington, D.C.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: You're going to Philly, San Antonio, Houston, Atlanta, Chicago. Chicago
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: is my favorite place to perform. Cleveland, Madison. Oh, look
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: at all these new dates. Cleveland, Madison, San Francisco, Portland.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, fabulous.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: All you got to do is go to misspatcomedy.com.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: Do you remember where you are in San Francisco? I
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: just came from there.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Mm-mm. You know where I'm at in San Francisco?
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: So tell everybody where they can buy the tickets and
• 1:17:04
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• 1:17:06
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• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: But please tune in.
• 1:17:11
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  Speaker 2: I will be their first judge.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: How Miss Pat settles it.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: Yes, you look so pretty there, too.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: I'm so glad you came.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you for having me.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: Yes. The car is beautiful. Where did you end up
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: going for it? This exclusive place that Donna's connections with.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: You have to put me in touch.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: What's it called?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: It's Dunaidial.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 7: Where?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Do you mean.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 7: Lift?
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: Please.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: You going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.