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3 Guys Before The Game - Over - Under Part 1 (Episode 479) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Tis the season for over Unders. Tis that time of the year. We've
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  got an incredible response last year when we did our over Under segment. It
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  was a segment so nice. We're gonna do it twice. We're gonna start
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  Mountaineer footballers are Yeah, Mountaineer footballers have begun classes. Yesterday was the first
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  day. We tape on Thursday today, so they're in class. That means
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  that we're quickly moving toward preparation for the actual game opener against the Nitney Lions
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  of Penn State. They'll scrimmage under the lights again Saturday night. As we
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  get closer. So we thought we would debut for the first time this season
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  part one of over Under. This was all the Senators doing this? Was
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  this the genesis of spreads on stats? Because you was this kind of the
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  start of it, that's a good point. Might think it was. Yeah,
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  it might have been. Yeah, just pick different categories that I'd like
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  to do this just because it's again, these aren't true wagers you could make
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  in the marketplace. This is for discussion purposes and entertainment purposes only. But
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  I do what I try and do on these and have done that. Today's
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  kind of takes some big picture themes that are around this team or questions that
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  have come up around this team, and then we get into it. We
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  assign a number to it, so instead of in this this isn't in today's
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  episode, but it may come later. We've talked a lot about Cole Taylor
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  the title right, six seven hoppy, it's a big target in the end
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  target at some point we'll do Okay, Hey, Cole Taylor is gonna be
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  valuable in the receiving game. Okay, that's fine to say. What's the
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  number? How many receptions is that? Rodney Gallagher a true freshman, very
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  talented, highly touted kid, but true freshman. We know they're catching fifty
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  balls. What did Gil Shorts have that year forty seven? Was that that
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  the high for a true freshman with Shorts at forty seven sounds right? So
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  trying to put some numbers in some analysis to these these things that we talk
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  about each week as we lead into the season. That's the genesis of the
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  segment. With that being said, very rarely get to use this sound effects
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  a three seconds stinger. Let's begin over under number one proposition from the here
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  we go, So what is a big topic this season? How many games
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  will West Virginia win? Where are they going to finish in the standings?
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  Preseason media poll has the Mountaineers picked fourteenth boo last in the Big twelve.
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  So here's our first over under over under thirteen and a half where West Virginia
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  will finish the regular season in the Big twelve over under thirteen and a half
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  under under they finished better, They finished better? Yes, yeah, yes,
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  I think bred candidly, I think that's an easy one. And because
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  you gave a great stat when when the first when that preseason poll came out,
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  and that is the difference between fourteen and seven four fourteen and four is
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  not much at all. Yeah, so we're talking about a win or two,
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  and I'm sure we'll get to wins here in a minute, but I'm
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  definitely under on that. Yeah, so what's you're referencing there? If you
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  took Texas Tech that was picked fourth in the preseason poll down through number fourteen
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  the draft came these win totals at the time when that came out a few
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  weeks ago ranged from seven and a half to four and a half five and
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  a half. There's only one four and a half in there, so that
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  was a that's a tight range for a big number of schools. Leads to
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  a lot of toss up, pick them type of games. Right, So
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  over under West Virginia's finished in the Big twelve regular season thirteen and a half.
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  We're better than that. We're not finishing last, so I'm going under.
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  Yeah. So this was an easy one. I started this one.
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  This was kind of like baby food, Like this was green peach, just
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  like the first little thing. Hey, just is the number is that?
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  I know the number based on fourteenth, but is your number too wrong?
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  I mean, yeah, yeah, I did it because because I I said
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  litten this and you know where I stand on this. I would have taken
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  the under. I said, when this pole came out, if I could
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  find a bet, yes or no? Well, West Virginia finished last in
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  the Big Twelve. I'd take the I'd take the no. Yeah, I'd
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  load on the no. I don't think that happens. You can't find that
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  bet anywhere. I've not seen that yet. How hard have you looked,
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  I've looked. I'd be interesting. I'm sure. I mean I could.
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  I could find it. I just haven't found it yet. What if I,
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  okay, just that's the number and you're going under? Right, Yeah,
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  you're asking what would the what if I read? What if I put
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  the number at eleven and ahad? Okay, So we often say this.
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  We put the number out there, then a bet comes in. You got
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  to slide the number. So everybody came in under, so they gotta move
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  the number. Yeah, all right, so move the number. Yeah,
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  I think that's a good move to eleven and a half. Take the under.
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  I thought he'd go there. I'm still gonna go under. I'm still
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  going on. I probably do too. Ill now, full disclosure, I
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  have not gone through and done my Big Twelve breakdown on wins for each team
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  but yeah, I think west Virdini finishes much better than what the preseason expectations
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  are. I'll say that you're going under two. I think I went single
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  digits. I'm gotta good, look not a half a right? What if?
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  What if? The numbers nine and a half? Here he goes,
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  I'll have to look, i gotta look. Not fair to dance to that
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  classic lawyer that was That was a deposition answer. I'm sorry, not prepared
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  to answer that right now, not that I recall. Okay, so that's
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  an easy one. Just get us off started there. Okay, let me
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  hit the music again. I like all right, another big theme quarterbacks.
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  We've talked about them. Friend of the program, Garrett Green. Well,
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  Nico is two, I know, but this one's gonna be about Garrett,
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  Oh, specifically about him. Okay, over under rushing touchdowns for Garrett Green
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  this season over under. The number opens at eight and a half. Eight
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  and a half rushing touchdowns for Garrett Green this season, over or under some
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  numbers for you. He had five last season in just forty five attempts nine
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  games. Wait a second time out. He scored a touchdown once every five
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  times he carried ball once every nine times. I'm sorry, Yeah, I'm
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  using new math. Five touchdowns, forty five carries. There's another rule.
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  Never do public math. Yeah, once every nine times he carried the ball,
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  he scored a touchdown. Okay, rushing touchdown, I understood it.
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  Okay, twenty twenty one, he had four rushing touchdowns in forty seven attempts.
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  So just under one per twelve carries. You're pretty good. Go back
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  and just look at some numbers. And I didn't go all the way back
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  into the Pat White days, different quarterbacks. I did go back to Skyler
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  Howard because that was kind of the last and Skylar wasn't necessarily a running quarterback,
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  but a guy that they run the football quite a bit. That you
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  sear, right. He had ten rushing touchdowns in twenty sixteen. That's the
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  last time you've seen the quarterback at WV with double digit touchdown rushes. I
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  was surprised at this. Greer only had three in twenty eighteen, in two
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  in twenty seventeen. That surprised me. For a guy that was pretty mob
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  Yes, I think his mobility was good enough to get out of harm's way,
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  extend the skyle and make a play. But he wasn't going to be
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  that guy that's going to be an absolute because we saw what happened the one
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  time he tried when he went to the pylon there and it didn't end on.
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  He could also throw a bullet to a receiver in the corner of the
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  incident. So Skylar the year he rushed for ten and twenty sixteen, he
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  had one hundred and forty two attempts, so a touchdown every fourteen carries,
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  so that increudes scrambles and everything. Remember, okay, so numbers set at
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  eight and a half, Garrett's had five and four. You've got to go
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  back to twenty sixteen when you saw Skyler with ten. So do some do
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  some other rough math there a hundred rushing one hundred rushing attempts for Garrett in
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  an average of those numbers gets him to ten. But do those do those
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  numbers come back down? One hundred attempts over twelve games gives him eight point
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  three carries per game, Like you're I think that's probably right around him,
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  right, that's a reasonable from him between broken plays, designed runs, sneaks
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  and options there eight and a half, so over under eight and a half
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  rushing touchdowns for Garrett, would you like me to go sure? I say
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  he goes over eight and a half run touchdowns. I say goes over because
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  I see him carrying the ball. It wouldn't surprise me. Now, obviously
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  all this is predicated upon healthy, but it wouldn't surprise me if he carried
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  the ball. You know, let's say eight times eight times a games ninety
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  six and assuming he plays all twelve, assuming he plays all twelve, assuming
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  he plays all twelve. So he's also the kind of cat depending on how
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  long do they keep him out there, he could also maybe go for the
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  He could also go for the hat trick against Duke Kane and like build up
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  some build up, some good equity. You might get three against Duke Kane.
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  Right, so I'm gonna go. He's also a guy that can rip
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  off a fifty three arms one, right, doesn't have to be the inside
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  the five sneaker. No no, no, no, no kay, I'm
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  going over. You're going over right now? Hot Before you answer, or
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  keep in mind, keep in mind, this roster has multiple really talented running
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  backs, right, so you got to factor that into your decision too.
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  Over under eight and a half rushing touchdowns, I'm gonna go over, and
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  you're right. I mean, you have that supposedly great offensive one deep running
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  backs. What's the defense looking for looking for the running back? Oh,
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  pulled the ball out, ran around the end, got a touchdown. Or
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  if it's a design pass, he might not be as confident as Will grew
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  Is to try to rifle the ball in there. You know, when it's
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  all crowded the end zone. He might just take it himself. I'm going
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  over, you're going under. No, I'm going over to one. You
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  would go under. So we wouldn't all have the same thing. I think,
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  listen, if you have a guy that's talented running the football, assuming
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  injury stays away, which he can't handicap the injury partners, let's ope he
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  stays healthy all season. Assuming he stays healthy, I think he goes over
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  those one hundred carries. If Skyler Howard was a guy that carried it one
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  hundred and forty two times, it feels like Garrett's going to get over one
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  hundred carries even with that backfield. So I think if that happens, he
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  gets there. I think it's reasonable to think he can double his output on
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  the ground from last year quite Frankly, that surprised me that there was five
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  and four each of the last two seasons. Those are pretty good numbers for
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  not a ton of carries. So I think it's reasonable even though he's gonna
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  have to throw it more because obviously the other team is going to know he
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  wants to run the ball as well. But I think he can get over
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  eight and a half rushing touchdowns. He has to become a prime focus for
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  opposing defenses, and by that I mean they have to run him simply to
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  honor his run so that it opens up the other things. So it opens
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  up opportunities for the back, so it opens up the field for those receivers
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  to get opens. He has to be you know, he has to be
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  the marked man every week and still find the way I'm gonna go. And
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  as I've said many times, I'm I can't wait to watch this offense because
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  I think if if the turnovers are controlled and Neil has the ability to open
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  that playbook, just take what you can do down inside the ten when you
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  get there with the the the RPO inside with a big back like C.
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  J. Donaldson, So those linebackers have to respect the two hundred and forty
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  pound guy that can hawk it up in there behind that great offensive line.
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  You got to stop that first, But you can put Garrett on the corner.
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  Now, if he's on the corner, look at all the options there.
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  If you had a two back set, someone's coming with him as a
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  pitch man, Cole Taylor's flipping out there as a throw. You drop back
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  and take the receiver. Green takes off and dives at the pylon for a
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  touchdown. I think the options exist, especially down inside tight to the goal
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  line, which has been a problem right under Neil Brown. That has been
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  a challenge for West Virginia inside that area because of why that doesn't run.
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  Yeah, you haven't had that threat. That's one of the things that opens
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  up here as the field gets tighter. A running back that or a quarterback
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  that can make like a running back and take off helps you. So I
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  think that becomes something that he that's a reasonable target to get to ten for
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  him. In my opinion, Can I submit a request? Sure, I'm
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  not asking for this to be struck from the record. However, at the
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  fear of becoming a Donnie Downer, you said, behind that great offensive line,
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  you don't want me to say great, I think it's an over I
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  think it's an over statement. Really, yes, great great is a big
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  and again, the meaning of a word is in the person, not in
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  the word. But my definition of great is that every single Saturday, they
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  absolutely just dominate a game to the point where you walk out of that stadium
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  and you go like, whoa the eighty eight offensive line? Yeah, just
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  like mulching people. Here's what I'm hoping for for this offensive line. I'm
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  hoping that their worst Saturday, that people will say the offensive line played good
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  or well. I'm just gonna say good, and then on several occasions during
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  the season you can say the offensive line played very well or great. They
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  can't have a bad Saturday. Their worst Saturday, to me, needs to
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  be a good game. So I think in the past this offensive line has
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  shown in many of the same faces. These guys have had some games where
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  we went like, hey, these guys have turned to corner, but they've
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  also had some saturdays where it wasn't there inconsistency. So all I'm hoping for
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  I'm not going to say it's a great offensive line. I'm gonna say it
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  has a chance to be a very good offensive line. All I want is
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  a media, the media, and I want is they're good every week and
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  some weeks they're really good. What if? But you guys have said,
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  or it's been said that two or three of those guys are NFL guys,
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  So why shouldn't they Why wouldn't they bey? Can I step in and take
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  over questioning for a minute, council? Can I say, are you submitting
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  to the man from Jefferson County? I approach you may go ahead. You
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  recently talked to an NFL personnel guy, been around the league a long time
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  evaluating NFL prospects. There are five starting offensive lineman on a team. I'm
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  nothing's five? Is there? Five? Is the right number? Your rhetorical
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  question is correct? Yes, tight end in this particular person's opinion that had
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  been around it for every bit of a decade plus almost two decades, this
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  particular person, how many pros did he think we're all along that West Virginia
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  offensive line starters or everyone? How many professionals did he think we're start starting
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  offensive five? Three? Excuse me? Well? Two for sure? Maybe
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  three? Is that what he told you? Yes, sir, he said
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  there's three to ahead. Okay, how many did he say have a chance
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  to play in the league? Of those five of the five starters. I
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  remind you you're under oath now, I remind you. I answer the question.
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  Answer the question, sir. Definitely two on the five. It's not
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  what he said to you, No, three, three guys I have a
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  chance. Now what he said he said four have a chance. When that's
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  not the not the starters. I think there's someone that's a baby right now
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  that he thinks he is going to have a chance down the road. Got
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  the answer right anyway, Four, it's four. There's four. There's four
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  guys that he thinks will be drafted in the NFL, and one of them
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  he thinks could be a decade guy. Last year, on first down first
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  downs West virgin the average five point five yards per carry ranked sixteenth nationally.
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  Great. It's extremely well for extremely good, extremely good. He had five
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  two yard rushing games last season at least pretty good. I leave great.
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  I was great. I wasn't trying they need to be great. They need
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  to be great. I mean, I wasn't trying to change what you're saying.
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  I'm just saying, like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna ordain them.
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  Well, the point is if if you're not gonna be great now, when
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  are not going to be great? Group? Not? I mean, that's
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  a lot, that's a lot of pro guys right there that that you got,
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  you got. You have got to be great and dominant way more times
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  than you're You're right. There were times last year when they weren't. There's
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  no question I totally agree with that. But the addition of a guy back
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  there that can scramble his way out of some trouble should assist worldly. Again,
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  if Neil has the ability to trust that whole group, I think your
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  playbook expands with some more options which will also help. I mean, there's
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  some things in there that we attribute to the offensive line that aren't the offensive
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  line's fault that I think helped that offensive line in totally. That makes sense,
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  you know what I'm saying that that was one of the challenges for the
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  offensive line last year because the defenses knew that JT. Daniels was not going
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  to run one, and you couldn't get anybody by the pack of the defense.
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  So everybody could suck up right right and you could leave corners on an
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  island and drop the safeties into run run protection and then say okay, go
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  ahead and beat us on the outside. And Western couldn't do it. So
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  there's a couple things that can really assist some of those those numbers that we
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  attribute to the offensive line that don't necessarily have to do with the offensive all
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  right. In quarterbacks, Nowaday, you got you don't have to be a
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  running quarterback, but you have to be able to extend the play. We
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  have not been extending play. And how many times West Virginia plays teams with
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  a guy that can extend plays and you got third and long and the guy
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  runs for a first down? He oh babreaks of the defensive backbreaker is a
• 23:33
  good wordip side. I mean, he's going to bring you that green,
• 23:37
  brings you that we've already known, that we've seen it. You don't even
• 23:38
  have to see it again. He brings that. The question just continues with
• 23:41
  Garrett. As he said when he sat in this chair, I keep saying
• 23:45
  this every episode. He knows and he said it. He's got to be
• 23:48
  able to throw the ball well enough that if he has to throw it to
• 23:49
  beat you, he can. And that's the consistency with no turnovers that's critical.
• 23:55
  The running is going to be there, but the running lessons in importance
• 23:59
  if they can't be successful throwing it too, and to continue on the great
• 24:03
  team. He doesn't have to be a great passer. He has to be
• 24:07
  adequate. He has to be good enough, doesn't have to be great,
• 24:10
  has to be good. Okay, we're good. Were you debating that?
• 24:17
  He just has to stay away from turnovers? So whatever part you want to
• 24:19
  take that, he just got to stay away from turnovers an interception. That
• 24:25
  touchdown interception ratio, to me is just massively important. Actually not give the
• 24:30
  ball heap. I'm gonna make a statement here, we make it. May
• 24:34
  debate me on this. Going back and looking at those Skyler Howard rushing numbers
• 24:38
  for that team, it's not a bad blueprint for what you have here right
• 24:42
  now if you think about it. That was a really good offensive line too.
• 24:45
  They did a great job running football. Yes, and Skylar, who
• 24:51
  we've said before, his numbers are unbelievable career, right, so maybe he
• 24:53
  was. He was further along as a passer probably at this point than Garrett.
• 24:57
  But what did he do extremely well that helped all of it in totality
• 25:03
  very well? And Shelton Gibson was there to catch something right. That was
• 25:07
  a good connection that helped the running game, and then he was mobile enough.
• 25:11
  And again, I think Garrett's probably a better runner at this point than
• 25:14
  Skylar was, but Skyler was a super effective runner. There's some similarities there,
• 25:18
  I think you can draw from. I laughed inside myself there while you
• 25:21
  were talking about that team, because I just have this perception in my mind,
• 25:25
  the Dana like, even though that team won ten games, he still
• 25:27
  bit his lip because they were he never wasn't the way he wanted to.
• 25:32
  He didn't want to do it that way. But instead he possessed the ball
• 25:36
  and he ran the ball because he had to give the defense an opportunity,
• 25:41
  and it worked like perfect. I thought this was his best coaching job.
• 25:44
  But at the same time, I can also imagine it going like he had
• 25:48
  to hold himself back. He wanted to let that thing whip around the yard.
• 25:51
  It wasn't him, but I thought it was one of those times where
• 25:52
  he really should best coaching. I did too, And I'm going to be
• 25:56
  a head coacher. I'm not going to be the offensive coordinator that has the
• 25:59
  title of head coach. I'm gonna do what I have to do to fit
• 26:02
  the skills of this particular team, and we're gonna win games. And I
• 26:03
  thought they did that things right. So this year, to me, I
• 26:07
  think there's some similarities. Again, long way from where this team sits now
• 26:11
  of getting to ten wins. I'm not saying that, but I think some
• 26:12
  of those pieces you can you can move around and find some some parallels.
• 26:17
  Done one in his last year he rushed for four hundred and sixty three yards.
• 26:25
  Skyler did, Yeah, Yeah, it's nice. That's good. That's
• 26:27
  good that it works. That's a good chunk. Last over under. Stay
• 26:33
  on the ground. Rushing is going to be important this season. I agree,
• 26:38
  Yes, agree. Number of players to rush for a touchdown this year.
• 26:45
  Number of players to rush for a touchdown. Now, before I give
• 26:48
  you the number, I will say this, the person that set the line
• 26:52
  was fired earlier this morning, after they set the line. Who was they
• 26:57
  set the line? Who wasn't doing all of the research. You fired yourself.
• 27:02
  So I just sometimes what I do on this top, I'll just try
• 27:03
  and come up with a nut, like I have a general idea of what
• 27:07
  I think it may be, and you set the number, and then I
• 27:08
  go in and do the research on the back of this bad number here.
• 27:12
  So wait a minute, you set the number, then did the research.
• 27:15
  Yes, yeah, that's kind of backward hoppy. It's it's kind of like
• 27:18
  songwriters, you know, sometimes they start with the lyrics, sometimes melody start
• 27:22
  with the melody. Yeah. Sometimes what you do is you set you set
• 27:26
  your own numbers in place, and then see what they're they're put in and
• 27:27
  that's how you know what's a bad number of good numbers? Stay away?
• 27:30
  All right, okay, all right, So I was kind of playing both
• 27:32
  sides of the equation there. Over under four and a half number of players
• 27:37
  to rush for a touchdown this year? Over huh over you got three running
• 27:44
  backs? Fire yourself again. Oh so you're not okay, so you're not
• 27:48
  saying rushing touchdown. So if we line up someone in the slot and they
• 27:53
  run a jet sweep, that doesn't count. That's a rush. Yeah,
• 27:56
  so is it. But it's not a running back. It's a slot.
• 28:00
  I'm saying, anybody, Oh, you're way the heck horrible number. I
• 28:03
  want to take all of Hoppies money and I would like to place a wager
• 28:07
  saying over that you would mean four guys. Agree that the answers over.
• 28:14
  But now here's what will surprise you, because you guys are acting like it's
• 28:17
  ten guys. Go ahead and give me your number. Okay, how many
• 28:19
  do that? I'm in the range of seven to eight? Oh, seven
• 28:25
  to eight? Okay. Since two thousand, there's only been one version of
• 28:30
  the Mountaineers that had eight players rush for a touchdown back in the rich Rod
• 28:34
  days. Okay, so eight does not happen. Okay, let me just
• 28:37
  do this in my head, and I'm probably over. Five happens a lot.
• 28:41
  Hold on, I'm gonna go with the gentleman here that's acting like the
• 28:44
  numbers should have been nine and a half. So what did I say?
• 28:48
  Eight? So Jahim White, of course, Heisman winner, He'll probably the
• 28:53
  team in rushing touchdown. Rodney Gallagher, Oh, C J. Donaldson,
• 29:00
  Jalen Anderson, Justin Johnson, Garrett Greene, six, Nico seven. I
• 29:08
  can't get any hiring seven hitting the wall now, sir, because you just
• 29:11
  said eight, I know, hang out. He just give me a second.
• 29:14
  Let me think of the roster, and I gotta get one more cat,
• 29:19
  yeah, one more cattle. Score Like you're gonna play Duquane and you're
• 29:22
  gonna put in someone that's not gonna get a whole lot of tick. I'll
• 29:26
  go with a seven eight for the last time a receiver rushed for a touchdown
• 29:30
  at WVU would be various read who wasn't Yeah, Tavon was it? Holy
• 29:34
  heck? Now again? Disclaimer, send me a text if if I've missed
• 29:38
  that I went. I was trying to go quickly through there. I got
• 29:41
  all the way back to twenty twelve before I saw a receiver that scored a
• 29:45
  touchdown. That stunned me. That's stunned me. They'd old Jet Sweep been
• 29:49
  wearing that slot receiver coming over, it's fine, doesn't go for touchdowns?
• 29:53
  Well maybe they Maybe they tossed him the ball and goes goes as a pass.
• 29:56
  Well, yeah, if it's age the average number, Okay, do
• 30:02
  two things for you. The reason I said it was a bad number after
• 30:04
  I put the number is this stat here. West Virginia has had at least
• 30:08
  four players rushed for a touchdown every year since two thousand. Since at least
• 30:12
  two thousand, I ran out of time to go back further than that,
• 30:15
  So since at least two thousand, they've always had four. So hop what
• 30:18
  I'm saying there, your floor is four. So the numbers shouldn't be four
• 30:22
  and a half because that's an easy that's an easy overplay right there. But
• 30:26
  here's the tricky part. The average since the two thousand season is five point
• 30:32
  one seven players with at least one touchdown. Hence the four and a half.
• 30:37
  I mean, the numbers not as bad as I thought it was.
• 30:40
  When your first instinct is you're crazy. That's way too low, and I
• 30:42
  think it'll be low for this team. I think it does go over four
• 30:45
  and a half. But get it. You just describe getting to eight doesn't
• 30:48
  happen? Did it one year? Rich? Did it in one year when
• 30:52
  you had all them cats? This is interesting, Oh seven is when he
• 30:55
  had the eight players rush for a touchdown. Only ten players carried the ball
• 30:57
  that year, eight of them scored touchdowns. But that number may be affected
• 31:03
  by the number of years you didn't have a running quarterback, right yeah,
• 31:07
  all yeah, but all that goes into your evaluation process. Yes, I
• 31:11
  may put you may have two quarterbacks on this roster that can get you a
• 31:14
  rushing touchdown. I know that changes. I think a better number is and
• 31:18
  well, obviously the better numbers five and a half. Okay, when was
• 31:22
  the last time West Virginia had six players or more rush for a rushing touchdown?
• 31:26
  Probably the last time. A better number would be five and a half.
• 31:30
  So you want to look at historically, how often does that happen twenty
• 31:34
  eleven, going back twelve seasons since the last time, you had to seem
• 31:38
  that it has done that hobby. That's a really interesting set of numbers.
• 31:41
  So you're probably right that that's a better number, but you might take a
• 31:44
  lot of under money at that point, right. Yeah, I just found
• 31:47
  that again when I when I thought in my head four and a half because
• 31:52
  I was trying to I was trying to make an argument on both sides,
• 31:56
  right, and then I got four and a half. I started thinking,
• 31:56
  now that's that's too low. But then it comes out with the average being
• 32:00
  five point one seven over the last twenty three seasons, over multiple coaches stun
• 32:06
  that love to run at something that they're So you see you had a balance
• 32:07
  there of coaching style. Stunned, I tell you, stunned good. So
• 32:13
  your number makes sense. Hey, I don't want to give you work.
• 32:15
  I'll go back and look at myself. I'd like to see the final stats
• 32:19
  from like kneeling eighty four season, just like what was that number? Like
• 32:23
  right, let's see. Anyway, keep talking, we can maybe find that.
• 32:29
  Two things on that we kind of as we evolve on this podcast and
• 32:36
  what we should have done. We should have a contest for our listeners so
• 32:42
  they can get in on these over unders. We post them somewhere that Vinny
• 32:45
  that we can still do that. Yeah, Vinny the gaming guy, like
• 32:47
  we should have that, and like you win a bag of Kerchival's coffee at
• 32:52
  the end of the season if you hit some of these things. Okay,
• 32:54
  okay, yeah, eight yeah, eight. But that's back in the era
• 33:01
  when you had Ron Wolfley, John Gay, Tommy Robert White, John Tally,
• 33:13
  Kevin White. Two of those guys passed away, Tommy greagn and then
• 33:16
  Robert White's going, what's different from eighty four to now? Oh the game?
• 33:22
  Do you throw it a little more? Yea? So anyway, I
• 33:27
  thought that one was the most That's why I went last. So I thought
• 33:29
  that was the most interesting, going from what I thought was a bad number
• 33:31
  to what the average tells you. It's probably not that bad. Of a
• 33:34
  number versus what happens this year? And I think tell you you bring up
• 33:37
  the point there, like does a receiver come back into play as a rushing
• 33:42
  touchdown? Is that a way to get Rodney Gallagher the ball? Is there
• 33:45
  someone else that can get It's interesting. It was a lot of a lot
• 33:51
  of guys on that team. That was a superb team, superb team.
• 33:54
  Talk to some guys from the team just this past weekend. Oh yeah,
• 33:59
  that was the Kevin White team. That was the Kevin I was with Andra
• 34:01
  and I was with Timmy Ag and Chris pekan Ag was on that team.
• 34:07
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• 34:13
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  I'm confirmed. Texter Tony, Tony, Tony. The Bible says the love
• 37:17
  of money is the root of all evil. Money will be the downfall of
• 37:22
  college I e. Semi pro sports. Well, unnamed Texter, it may
• 37:30
  not be the downfall, it may already be happening. How else can you
• 37:35
  explain the absolute craziness of where we are with these schools. Texter, guys,
• 37:43
  I was golfing with p one Jason. He casually tossed out the Mountaineers
• 37:47
  have a good chance of going eight and four this season. At first I
• 37:51
  did not believe him, but as you know, he's got history of cashing
• 37:53
  impressive tickets at the sports book. So when he talks sports I listen.
• 38:00
  As I looked into things further, we will obviously be a huge favorite against
• 38:02
  Duke Quaine. What prohibitive underdogs versus Penn State TCU in Oklahoma? This is
• 38:08
  a question for Brad for all intents and purposes, do you see the other
• 38:14
  eight games as pick ums? Thinking is probably a good idea to hammer the
• 38:19
  over on four and a half wins sat by Matt and tulsor go ahead,
• 38:22
  you want to do wins? Would you take the over or under four and
• 38:27
  a half win total that's been posted over? No question? Thank you?
• 38:32
  Happy same Texter may have already actually may have already actually was thrown down there
• 38:38
  like you I would. Well, we're not going to do it today,
• 38:42
  I guess, no, not yet. Where do you save your tickets?
• 38:45
  Do you have like a big thing where you put your tickets? No?
• 38:47
  Online? So last year, if you remember, the number was five and
• 38:52
  a half. I went over still lost, losing ticket. Still think it
• 38:59
  was the right bet, Yeah, because I only needed one of those first
• 39:00
  two games. Western should have had both those. So I still think over
• 39:04
  five and a half last year was right. And it's still five and a
• 39:06
  half. It was lost, depends some some that got in early got it
• 39:09
  at four and a half, then it moved on to five and five and
• 39:13
  a half. Texter hold on real quick to directly answer the question, though
• 39:20
  they won't be true pickums where it's it's a pick them, But I think
• 39:23
  that most of those other games, Yeah, those are going to be all
• 39:25
  awfully three and there. Yeah. I mean that's you can't say at this
• 39:30
  point. I mean you can, you can predict, but so much will
• 39:35
  change, so much will change. But I think as you look at those
• 39:37
  right now, I think almost And that's that was my argument for not finishing
• 39:40
  last I think there's so many teams that are in that pocket of teams that
• 39:45
  just flip a coint on any given week, who has the injury, who
• 39:49
  does not, which quarterbacks out, which is not. There's those factors,
• 39:52
  and I think there's a bunch of games in this league and on West Frenia
• 39:55
  schedule that will hinge and flip on those factors. One last point to at
• 40:00
  from Tulsa's text. Think about this. We brought those two guys together.
• 40:04
  So Matt from Tulsa and p one Jason who moved to Tulsa. They became
• 40:07
  buddies because of three guys. Remember Jason, he used to be down there
• 40:12
  in Fort Worth, used Arizona, put Arizona fly to the and put all
• 40:15
  of it, put his uh his the heck you called this coaster is flying
• 40:21
  WV coaster down at the bar inside the lounge because he was traveling. Now
• 40:23
  those guys are buds. Cool. Hey, here are three guys. We're
• 40:27
  just trying to just trying to bring people together. People. Some call us
• 40:31
  football version of tender. Three guys. That's not sell a thing, isn't.
• 40:37
  I won't there's it not in business anymore. I don't know. I
• 40:40
  know I won't be the only one to address this, but I feel I've
• 40:44
  got it to once again come to our beloved Hoppies, aid, Oh,
• 40:46
  thank you all these mountaineers jumping on him for stating the obvious about Neil Brown
• 40:52
  and Penn State feels an awful lot like when the Orioles did to poor Kevin
• 40:57
  Brown. In a world where USC will play in on a semi regular basis,
• 41:01
  even this seems stupid. From building at arondeck chairs, I'm sure for
• 41:06
  the homeless single handedly publishing, retaining Wall monthly and being the world's liaison to
• 41:12
  all things Joe Manchin, ladies and gentlemen, Hoppy is a national treasure,
• 41:15
  national treasure. Those knuckle dragging, mouth breather haters probably salt and pepper their
• 41:20
  kit cats. Anyway, all kidding aside, we do love you, Hoppy.
• 41:23
  Thank you, have a great sabbatical. And see at the food court
• 41:25
  with the four pack of beer and the half eaten slim Jim signed by Philip
• 41:30
  and Tampa. Thank you Philip. That goes in the thin file. I
• 41:34
  did write. I wrote a commentary today, uh huh about my hope for
• 41:37
  the Mountaineers season, and I said, I was not repeated, I'm not
• 41:40
  counting the pin State game. And because I thought it was unfair to pay
• 41:45
  Brad to play two Power five teams in non conference and the first comment was
• 41:52
  unfair to coach Brown. That's laughable if his teams were better it wouldn't seem
• 41:57
  so unfair. Let's say WV was ranked into top ten or top twenty,
• 41:59
  the Penn State would be considered a great opportunity. Stop with the unfairness crap,
• 42:05
  said the responsible Coma. They didn't agree with you. Texter difference of
• 42:12
  opinion. Joe from Boaz north of Parkersburg, south of Williamstown. Hello,
• 42:19
  bicycle ring tongue click. If NIL is not somehow regulated, then what is
• 42:23
  the purpose of a scholarship. Wasn't the limited number of scholarships created the level
• 42:29
  of playing field? Well that's all out of the window with this NIL stuff.
• 42:32
  That's said. If NIL is not somehow regulated, then your Alabama's and
• 42:37
  your Ohio states will continue to attract and pay the most talented athletes like they
• 42:43
  did already. Anyhow, you say, how does this work? Well,
• 42:47
  if an athlete makes six to seven figures, they can pay for their own
• 42:51
  schooling and not use up a scholarship. Right, Maybe WV needs to rethink
• 42:55
  their offerings and do this in reverse. Give scholarships to the more questionable athletes
• 43:00
  and pay the outstanding athletes. This means the outstanding athletes can pay for their
• 43:06
  spot on the team. I mean schooling. Does that make any sense?
• 43:08
  Load up and see what happens. Boy's an awful, awful lot there.
• 43:15
  So we'll turn it over to Brad. Would you care jump in it all?
• 43:23
  No? Okay, so what you're saying there is just I mean,
• 43:29
  with all due respect, No, it'll never happen. That'll never happen.
• 43:34
  Text, but I appreciate you listening. Text. He Hello, conference disaster
• 43:38
  management. This is how he wants it. Forty teams, four divisions of
• 43:44
  ten teams, a twelve team playoff, a salary cap, two player,
• 43:49
  two year player contracts. The bottom two teams get higher salarycap to help even
• 43:53
  the field. Relegation of the bottom five teams every four years to lower FBS
• 43:59
  sauty spot sort of like liv golf to pay for it all and all other
• 44:02
  sports go back to normal, Go back to normal. That is good.
• 44:09
  There's no it makes too much sense. Any organization makes too much sense.
• 44:14
  Texter, doubt you'll read this, since you've ghosted me on the last several
• 44:19
  but here goes. I think the catastrophic conference evaluation. I'm sorry, I
• 44:24
  think the catastrophic conference evolution will lead to football and maybe men and women's basketball.
• 44:30
  Teams will be the only sports that make up a power conference, and
• 44:36
  all of the non revenue Olympic sports will be excuse me, strike non revenue
• 44:40
  from the record police, and all of the Olympic sports will be in regional
• 44:45
  leagues like the old ECA L was it East Eastern Eastern Conference? This is
• 44:51
  a natural progression that will save money and still lead to national championships for all
• 44:54
  sports. I think a lot of what you sa say this will give me
• 45:00
  in trouble, but I don't care. A lot of what you say is
• 45:06
  correct. I don't know if it'll happen in our lifetime, but realistically,
• 45:13
  I think what you're saying makes a lot of sense. Speaking of not what
• 45:16
  do you called If it's not revenue sports, what do you call Olympic Because
• 45:19
  here's why Ompic sports. Here's why? Okay, can I explain why?
• 45:22
  Yeah? Yeah, that's fine. Women's soccer at w VU is I assume
• 45:27
  what rusty here is counting as one of sports? Right? Because name was
• 45:30
  There's no name was given on this. Oh Rusty's the next test? Yeah?
• 45:35
  Sorry, anonymous texture women's soccer. They're charge tickets. There's tickets for
• 45:43
  women's soccer. You pay for those tickets right there. Revenue, So it
• 45:45
  is revenue producing. May not be profit making, but it's revenue producing.
• 45:51
  Hey, that makes sense. So not all of the sports that people lump
• 45:53
  into those categories are non revenue. Some are non revenue. They don't charge
• 45:58
  for tickets like les I would be a non revenant. There's no revenue coming
• 46:00
  in from the rifle side of things. Speaking of which, WVU Olympic Sport
• 46:07
  women's soccer team begins play tonight against Duke. I think am I right about
• 46:13
  that? I think I am point Being Nikkizo Brown beginning her twenty eighth season
• 46:21
  twenty two appearances in the NC Double A, so she has coached women's soccer
• 46:28
  at w VU brand during five football coaches. The tenure of five football coaches,
• 46:35
  let's talk about consistency and dedication. Success. I mean WVU women's soccer
• 46:38
  stands out. I know it's not a dozen produce as much revenue as the
• 46:44
  primary revenue sports, but talk about an established, successful program with a respected
• 46:50
  coach that is State of West Virginia. Can you find another example? They
• 46:53
  do open This is Thursday we're recording. They do play Thursday evening versus Duke
• 46:58
  the dukes. They're there down there. Yeah Texter, heck yeah, I've
• 47:04
  got a van and I will run Kirchevel to Orlando, Florida, like smoking
• 47:07
  in the Bandit signed by Rusty from beautiful Mnroe County. Jack just yelled across
• 47:15
  the wall. Jack, we don't have that sense of anyway you're going to
• 47:21
  drive. Don't drive like if a speed limit seventy, don't drive eighty.
• 47:23
  But also don't drive sixty. Just drive like seventy three. Don't get pulled
• 47:30
  over with that Kate all that kirche veil in there. Hey Jack, Hey
• 47:34
  Jack, do you have the next picture? Yeah? Okay, perfect,
• 47:38
  thank you. High level intercom system program is elite, isn't it. Yeah?
• 47:45
  Do you think like if we need to at least get like a doggie
• 47:47
  door in the wall that you can can we get something and just can't even
• 47:52
  across This is a beautiful studio, but there is a shortcoming. There should
• 47:55
  an intercom. He should be able to talk, be able to push a
• 47:59
  button and talking air. Yeah, I can't do that, now you could.
• 48:02
  We just haven't got the mess podcast. Don't worry about it makes it
• 48:06
  a little bit more organic, It makes a little bit a little bit more
• 48:10
  shoddy is what it makes it. See, here's your problem, dude,
• 48:14
  what here's your problem? I want to know. I want to know what
• 48:16
  my problem is here. Please tell me what my problem is. Your problem
• 48:21
  is that you view this program program as traditional as traditional radio and it's not.
• 48:30
  I don't know, no, no, you you you. You strive
• 48:31
  to get the professionalism of a radio broadcast like you do on a show,
• 48:37
  and you don't realize that these things are like it's just a free for all.
• 48:43
  So when there's dead air and your nerves get so tight that you start
• 48:46
  putting on your lip bomb, or when I yell across the wall to say,
• 48:51
  hey, do we have that picture that just stresses you out to I
• 48:53
  guess a different life. I guess you're right. I guess my problem is
• 48:58
  I care too much? Oh is that what we're gonna goes? I guess
• 49:00
  that my desire for professionalism is just holding us back. I guess that's what
• 49:06
  it is. I'm sorry. Well, if you really cared for, cared
• 49:08
  enough, probably wouldn't leave us for the next three weeks. So you can
• 49:12
  take that one and sail your boat down to sit down a river there.
• 49:15
  Jack Wing Frenk. Guy cares so much. See it. Don't want to
• 49:23
  be you anyway, Texter. Yesterday and I'll butcher this. But yesterday in
• 49:34
  Obadio's Portugal, I may have met the match for the Pepperoni roll. First
• 49:39
  Portugal. En may have met the match for the Pepperoni roll. Okay,
• 49:44
  what do we got? A power Colm Orico, A crusty roll with sliced
• 49:50
  chrezo and made in this centuries old wood fired oven in a basement bakery.
• 49:58
  I felt that you would enjoy this in for Masha excellent. Would you look
• 50:00
  at those things? Look at that bread? I would eat, got treizo
• 50:07
  in there. And this is from Chazz and Katie. Three guys listeners in
• 50:15
  Portugal, and there's Katie Holden Holden the pall come Serico, awesome, poll
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  come Ico. Believe they're visiting from the States. I believe that obviously here.
• 50:29
  Yeah, they're from Richmond, Virginia in Portugal listening to three guys,
• 50:32
  did you understand that they could be part of the food court coming up?
• 50:37
  I would think we're gonna have some They're gonna be there. I cannot promise.
• 50:44
  I cannot promise, Chazz promise something that was literally found the line.
• 50:47
  Now he can't promise the Portugal Thereiso Maker will not be at the three guys.
• 50:52
  I don't know if they're coming back. Text her how was that coming?
• 50:59
  By the way, food court? Great? I mean, it couldn't
• 51:04
  go any better? Why would you ask? You have any doubts on that?
• 51:09
  Got people got hives. It's like I lined up. I did have
• 51:15
  to bust into a meeting that was happening yesterday about it that I wasn't invited
• 51:17
  to and make sure I oversaw. Oh really, yeah, I wasn't invited.
• 51:21
  Just walked in. He walked in and our boy, our boy was
• 51:23
  on the phone by working on all kinds of who Dave? Yeah, is
• 51:29
  Dave working on this? Well, hell yeah, he's working on it.
• 51:34
  Yeah. Who do you think it's me? An? Think that's too I'm
• 51:37
  trying to I'm trying to find out we're all he's doing something to December.
• 51:42
  Now he's already forgotten that he's promised a food court. I'd tell you I
• 51:45
  am so at least you guys are connected. I just showed, like you
• 51:49
  guys say, it's here at this time. I just show up and everything.
• 51:52
  Dave's already done everything it's perfect. I feel like a rock star just
• 51:55
  showing in this show. Your writer says, I need a couple of Kercher
• 52:00
  veils here before I go on. Texter, Tony Brad, Let's give Hoppy
• 52:05
  a break. Can we all just agree the program is simply live to tape.
• 52:08
  A West Wing rewatch brought this phase to mind. Signed by ryan Ston
• 52:13
  Morgantown. It's soon to be living in Cincinnata. Yeah, this is live
• 52:16
  to two. We don't edit. We don't edit it, so it goes
• 52:20
  live to the tape. I probably didn't need to, but no, there's
• 52:23
  no actual tape though, no, not digital. Maybe like I'd say,
• 52:29
  like maybe out of four hundred and seventy some episodes, I may have edited
• 52:32
  less than five, just like when I went over the rail various times.
• 52:37
  I'll just like, I'm gonna go back and pull that last piece out.
• 52:40
  Texter, Hey, three guys. We often bring up a what if scenario
• 52:45
  about WV players and coaches, and we can only dream about what if we
• 52:51
  beat Pitt and oh seven? What if Bobby Bowden stayed longer? I have
• 52:54
  a what if scenario that could actually happen. What if for one day only?
• 53:00
  What if Tony and Brad host Talk Line, Hoppy hosted sports Line with
• 53:05
  coach Hunter. All have happened. What do you mean, No, you've
• 53:13
  never done anything with like twenty years ago. I hosted it once and it
• 53:17
  was an absolute freaking debacle. He had me do Steamerly. I didn't do
• 53:22
  a full program program. I did Steamerly, got into steam releasing out when
• 53:27
  it was broken to hive sweat, I had to go somewhere. Yeah,
• 53:30
  somethinking, did a final half hour. This is turning into a love fest
• 53:35
  for you. But I've said this, mate, I've said this to you
• 53:37
  and about you. I do think it's remarkable Tony that he can he can
• 53:42
  do what he does most of the time. Come over then into the sports
• 53:45
  world, our world that we do all the time, and hang like he
• 53:47
  does, because you could not reverse those tables and put me on his show
• 53:52
  unless we're talking about sports and me hang for not even one show, let
• 53:58
  alone a week, let alone your kind. You can take that texture,
• 54:04
  you can take who is that? Jeff? Jeff, and I got no
• 54:07
  shot of host zero zero zero zero, never ever do it. That's the
• 54:12
  shame, because I just did the schedule. I'm gonna be out for a
• 54:14
  while. You guys are hosting talk. Can't do it, Greg and Catletzburg.
• 54:19
  Three things for the three guys, Texas Oklahoma leave the Big twelve.
• 54:23
  Bob Bowlsby goes to the PAC twelve commissioner to talk about an alliance. If
• 54:27
  I'm not mistaken, the offers turned down. PAC twelve, Big ten ACC
• 54:31
  come together some sort of gentleman's agreement to which fingers were crossed. Now the
• 54:36
  ACC is flustered. The Big ten Slash twelve poached the PAC twelve. Gotta
• 54:40
  laugh at the irony text her At the start of the game broadcast. Instead
• 54:45
  of Martinsburg to Matuan next year, will Tony say, from Morgantown to Tucson,
• 54:50
  Provand this is Big twelve football. Lastly, also we yeah, he
• 55:00
  says, we should get analog clocks like in the old newsrooms. Yeah,
• 55:02
  but then like good always yeah, Like this is a CBS evening news.
• 55:09
  It's six o'clock in New York's five o'clock. Read the whole texture. This
• 55:13
  is pretty good. Talks about getting Pacific Mountain side, and he goes and
• 55:16
  whatever Italy is in for Nates there, Yeah, he's there. That's a
• 55:23
  six hour time. He's six hours ahead, seven hours. Hunter brought up.
• 55:28
  Greg Hunter brought out this week when they released the when they released o'nelly,
• 55:31
  and they said he will appear at halftime of the Big twelve Football Championship
• 55:36
  game, and they listed it in Central Time. No they did, Yeah
• 55:39
  they did. They got four freaking time zones coming here outrage. This next
• 55:46
  one is really interesting. Not that the others haven't been, but this is
• 55:50
  interesting. Scopes, spreads and bellhop ring ring while watching while watching the nineteen
• 55:58
  eighty seven boss in College West Virginia football game on MSN recently on the YouTube's
• 56:05
  I inadvertently uncovered the root cause behind Tony's nearly forty year harassment of Undra Johnson.
• 56:14
  In only forty five seconds, poor Undra sealed his fate with Tony.
• 56:20
  Here is the link to check it out for yourself from Football Fury on YouTube.
• 56:24
  All Right, guys, when it's when the video roll, the video,
• 56:37
  there's no audio. Wait, there's no lies. There no audio.
• 56:40
  There's no audio. There's no audio. There's no audio. There's you're hearing
• 56:45
  audio maybe out there now it's out there. You can't hear anyway. All
• 56:49
  right, that's the point of it is this. I'm on there doing the
• 56:52
  game with the late Tombs, and I say, Undraw, Johnson's a great
• 56:55
  young man. He's very smart. Whatever he does in life, he'll become
• 57:00
  highly successful. Oh really, that's why I said the guy, and the
• 57:01
  guy put it out there, vermade him accurate. Okay, So I say
• 57:05
  he's he. I mean, he's the kind of kid, very smart,
• 57:07
  very intelligent. He's got a lot going for him besides very good football skills.
• 57:10
  And then he and then he runs this play. John Talley goes over
• 57:15
  in motion, handoffed on it, balls up, balls out full look at
• 57:22
  major Major Calvin Phillips. They just walk off the field and there goes yeah,
• 57:25
  underfumbled. Can you show that? I mean, he probably took a
• 57:30
  hack of a hit though, Ah heck no, he just greased greasy football.
• 57:36
  So anyway, so they're going to game. Oh, we were beating
• 57:38
  and we beat him wast BC. We'd always beat, always beat. It's
• 57:42
  true, nineteen eighty seven under fumbles. If you'd like to go see that,
• 57:45
  you can anyway, So the caller or text her put that out there,
• 57:50
  and it's harsh man. Dog gone it dog gone, it dog gone
• 57:52
  and I wish that dog go on audio with the audio was classic. Why
• 57:55
  can't we hear the audio? I don't know. I have no idea what
• 57:58
  you were doing the game with Tommies were play, you were doing color?
• 58:02
  What was your analysis of that play? Would you give it? My analysis
• 58:06
  was this, this is what the guy wrote that. I said. I
• 58:07
  said, here's my great football insight. He'll basically do what he wants to
• 58:12
  do when he gets out of school. I mean, he's that kind of
• 58:15
  kid, very smart, intelligent guy, and he's got a lot going from
• 58:17
  besides his very good football skills. Next play under fumbles and you see and
• 58:27
  you've never let him forget it, Like forty years later, you didn't even
• 58:30
  remember. Oh my gosh, I don't remember that fumble. I remember the
• 58:35
  Maryland fumble from eighty seven with the ball laid there. Yes, we under
• 58:39
  under. And I were sitting there at practice last Saturday night and we and
• 58:43
  he brought and we were talking about the Maryland fumble. He's tony, he
• 58:47
  said, how about that next play, Ferrell Edmonds from Maryland caught it.
• 58:51
  He said, he's stiff armed one of our defensive guys. And I said,
• 58:53
  yep, And he ran all the way to Bethesda, right down to
• 58:57
  Hash. I could see it like yesterday, straight down the left Hash he
• 58:59
  went knockd Farrell Evans was a great player played in the NFL. Just a
• 59:02
  massive tight end. He could have run out of the stadium. Didn't touch
• 59:07
  him. But do you know the play before the fumble? You see it
• 59:09
  underhead some wheels. Oh yeah he was fast, yeah, fast, old
• 59:15
  greasy hands under totally unfair. That is really really school is like the third
• 59:20
  of all time leading rusher did? Yeah he did, Yeah he did.
• 59:24
  Do you know we do you know? He manages now over three hundred million
• 59:30
  dollars? Is that right? Yes? He does. Think about that.
• 59:32
  Well, you're right. You had good analysis, great analysis. Yeah,
• 59:38
  m texture scope spreads and Dean gonna try to keep this short. Just listen
• 59:45
  to the last episode. I agree with the Dean that Neil Brown's job is
• 59:49
  online and the storyline going into season in my opinion, don't let the people
• 59:52
  get you down. Hoppy stand on what you wrote. I haven't tried Kerchivel
• 59:57
  yet, but looking forward to a glass zone. PS. I haven't texted
• 1:00:00
  the show since twenty and nineteen when I was driving through the senator's birth state.
• 1:00:05
  He isn't true West Virginian in my book, as our u Tony loved
• 1:00:08
  the show. We all keep efforting. Signed by Grant and Redhouse. Thank
• 1:00:12
  you, grank you Grant appreciate that text spreads SuDS and scopes all emotions aside.
• 1:00:17
  Would you have rather kept Oklahoma in Texas or have things play out the
• 1:00:22
  way they have with the eight new schools? Personally, I believe Oklahoma and
• 1:00:25
  Texas have greater value than the New eight combined. I think the new league
• 1:00:29
  will be fun, but losing those brands was not made up with the additions
• 1:00:31
  of the new schools. You know are is that finish that glass half full?
• 1:00:37
  Perception, the league's more stable than it would have been with the remaining
• 1:00:43
  at ten Charlie and Prince. Yet you have to you have to count your
• 1:00:49
  lucky stars here a little bit. Because I was reading a god for CBS
• 1:00:52
  did a big, long piece about what's happened over the last fifteen years and
• 1:00:57
  how close the Big twelve came to imploding several times, flat linen. They
• 1:01:02
  were flat linen, yes, and West Virginia would have been left out in
• 1:01:07
  the cold because remember there was all the schools, We're going to go to
• 1:01:09
  the PAC twelve and if I couldn't work it out, they didn't. The
• 1:01:13
  PAC twelve didn't want to do the special Texas deal and then something. I
• 1:01:15
  mean, it was close, it was this close. So Texas leaving Oklahoma
• 1:01:21
  leaving Okay. That's too bad. But you have to be you have to
• 1:01:24
  be relieved, like the Donner party that you you got after that alive.
• 1:01:30
  You know, he makes some really good points. I definitely think it's more
• 1:01:34
  stable than it would have been had at State at ten. But there's no
• 1:01:37
  doubt. You take a national brand hit and you know it's the national narrative.
• 1:01:42
  Hoppy is so times, so many times the same as what we say
• 1:01:45
  about the TV folks that they just want to talk about up here, when
• 1:01:50
  meanwhile, there's all of this great going on across the country in so many
• 1:01:53
  different leads at different levels. That's why we like to watch the game,
• 1:01:57
  which we watched the games starting from whenever time we're in there and they kickoff
• 1:02:01
  right later in the season, we get to those eleven am kickoffs and we
• 1:02:04
  watch all those games. So it's a great every single week. Do we
• 1:02:07
  not find some games that don't involve Oklahoma in Texas and Michigan that we go,
• 1:02:12
  oh that's a great game. Hey did you see that? And we
• 1:02:14
  talk about it all. Yes. To me, the essence of football,
• 1:02:15
  it's just it's it's reflected the TV folks in the national narrative or like the
• 1:02:20
  same narrative. Yes, it's we want to talk about twenty different schools,
• 1:02:22
  ten different schools, and that's it. And you better win at an elite
• 1:02:25
  level like TCU before we talk about you last year, and then even when
• 1:02:29
  we do, we're gonna talk about you as the plucky underdogs even when you're
• 1:02:31
  not. So to me, I think the texture is right on with all
• 1:02:35
  of that. But that doesn't mean I won't like the new league as it's
• 1:02:37
  constituted. It got deeper, but it did lose some national brand at the
• 1:02:43
  top, for whatever that's worth. You know, maybe we're the aberration bright
• 1:02:47
  maybe not. I don't know you, but you're right. I mean that's
• 1:02:50
  what the the TV networks want, the big games. But you're right,
• 1:02:53
  we're watching the games. We've got four TVs going we can put on other
• 1:02:57
  channels. In the Texas game or look the Oklahoma game, and they're beating
• 1:03:00
  somebody by thirty. And meanwhile, Iowa State and Kansas State are coming out
• 1:03:05
  of the wire. What are we watching? And it's fun watching And that's
• 1:03:07
  Oklahoma that's won a lot. I mean Texas is out there. We might
• 1:03:10
  not be watching Texas because they haven't beaten anybody. They've been in the middle
• 1:03:14
  of the road. Yeah, so I mean get it. That's gonna have
• 1:03:17
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• 1:03:40
  you guys discussing the Arizona State Athletic directors comments about not going to Morgantown.
• 1:03:45
  I'm sure you all saw, but he did apologize say he looks forward to
• 1:03:49
  visiting, so that was nice. Unfortunately, I feel like this is going
• 1:03:52
  to happen more often as different college football cultures clash or maybe not signed by
• 1:03:57
  Professor Vinnie. I agree with you, as I've said multiple times, this
• 1:04:02
  was a really good culture of the schools that we had in this league,
• 1:04:06
  and that will no longer be the case because it's just too many different cultures,
• 1:04:12
  too many views from a wide expansive area. It's just they live differently,
• 1:04:15
  they think differently. It's going to be different. It's not going to
• 1:04:18
  be what it was. But things that's that. That is true. That
• 1:04:23
  is true, and it will be true for a while. But also it's
• 1:04:27
  true if you start playing these teams, then things happen that cause you to
• 1:04:30
  be more interested in said game. Correct, But as you know, you're
• 1:04:34
  one hundred percent right. But Hoppy, I think you and I will be
• 1:04:36
  long gone because we've been in the Big twelve now for eleven years and we're
• 1:04:41
  just now starting to get a little bit of a vibe because you have to
• 1:04:45
  play a bunch of games in order to build up some collateral as to why
• 1:04:49
  you like them or you don't like them, or the great games, and
• 1:04:53
  so just now after a decade, so it's probably if this current configuration,
• 1:05:00
  it will take twenty thirty years. You think that I truly. Chances are
• 1:05:02
  good it won't. It won't be intact in twenty or thirty years. You'll
• 1:05:06
  move on in the exact set or subset. Yeah. Yeah. Ray Anderson's
• 1:05:10
  the jet the Asua d and he I mean he made a mistake. He
• 1:05:13
  boughts that he's trying to be funny. Didn't come off well. Since apologize
• 1:05:15
  handled that, well, Yeah, move on. He'll be here in Morgantown.
• 1:05:17
  He'll be fine. He could. If he would have just started with
• 1:05:21
  with all due respect and delivered his probably would have been all right. I
• 1:05:25
  mean he just forgot to do that. Hop Yeah, I mean on the
• 1:05:28
  show that that covers everything. Yeah, if you just say with all due
• 1:05:30
  respect, then you're yeah, you're all good. Texter her three guys.
• 1:05:36
  You often mentioned relegation in the world of conference consolidation based on the news of
• 1:05:42
  Hoppies upcoming sabbatical. I think there should be three guys relegation, two or
• 1:05:46
  more miss shows in a month. Hello Nate Adrian leave a scheduled appearance early
• 1:05:51
  before the event is done. Hello Coach Hunter's in just a thought to help
• 1:05:57
  push the stupid podcast toward eight hundred. Keep up the working Let's go Mountaineers.
• 1:06:02
  I might have a I mean, that might be pretty good point.
• 1:06:06
  He gets relegated all of a sudden. Turn on waj R Radio, Morgantown.
• 1:06:10
  He's hosting Trading st Trading Post. It could be like you saw,
• 1:06:15
  you saw what happened. I mean Nate, after one year on the program,
• 1:06:16
  he saw what he decided. He said, give me out of here.
• 1:06:19
  I'm not doing this. Yeah. After like European soccer, you know,
• 1:06:25
  just yeah, we're out. Yeah, I get it. We're not
• 1:06:28
  getting eight hunter. What's the no way? What's the wager on Spain and
• 1:06:32
  England? No? No, okay, us out? I'm out? Okay,
• 1:06:39
  Texter Western and Southern? What's the wager on Western and Southern tennis?
• 1:06:45
  Out? But I do have a tennis wager in play for the event in
• 1:06:47
  Cincinnati that you've liked to go to that you say is really good? Yeah,
• 1:06:50
  Western and Southern? Is that what it is? Yeah? What's your
• 1:06:54
  wager? You know? Yes, Sistapasta to win his quarter Okay, thank
• 1:06:59
  you for asking that in a quarter final match or that? Not an original
• 1:07:01
  tennis matching tennis guy that I listened to? Not an original thought there?
• 1:07:06
  Now, if you had him to win it the whole thing, just a
• 1:07:10
  quarter, just win his quarter. My wife calls him Greek Jesus. It's
• 1:07:15
  a possible. Let's go Greek Jesus. Home greetings and salutation, says texter
• 1:07:23
  Son. He completely tuned out on it. I've got a couple of items,
• 1:07:26
  though, I think one was really a sports line topic. I know
• 1:07:30
  concession is king, I know being shortest king. I'll just whatever the word
• 1:07:35
  was, so I'll be brief first. And this has nothing to do with
• 1:07:38
  WV but something that Dan Wetzel said, and it seems to be a national
• 1:07:43
  narrative that Washington is this great brand university Washington. I lived forty five minutes
• 1:07:47
  south of that campus for a decade. There was no buzz. They were
• 1:07:51
  awful at the time they went Ohen twelve, and there was little angst.
• 1:07:57
  Can you imagine West Virginia going Ohen twelve. This second thing is the practices
• 1:08:00
  against other schools. It would be great, but they'd have to keep TV's
• 1:08:04
  hands out of it or it becomes an infomercial for schools like Alabama George et
• 1:08:09
  cetera. The rules would have to be to lock it down. And when
• 1:08:14
  his college athletics ever done that, signed by Sean in Raleigh. Yeah,
• 1:08:20
  so you don't think Washington doesn't think Washington's a good brand? Correct? Where
• 1:08:27
  where do you think Washington fits? That's because we you know, we're way
• 1:08:30
  over here. I mean, what do you think they fit in national brand?
• 1:08:32
  See? That's interesting. Just this morning I saw something in the graphic
• 1:08:36
  at their time on Washington. I had not as harsh a thought there,
• 1:08:40
  but a similar thought that they they really do get a pass in all of
• 1:08:43
  this is just an automatic And I know they've got some great history, they
• 1:08:46
  had some great teams before, but I know it's a wonderful setting, Don
• 1:08:50
  James, but boats right up to the state, which would be awesome.
• 1:08:55
  Yeah right, I mean I get it that they showed games that it's beautiful
• 1:08:58
  and and maybe this is East Coast bias, but did they did they get
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  too much of an automatic pass there? The whole discuss, there's just not
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  a lot out on the West side. I think they often have I think
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  they often do get a pretty nice pass. They have a lot of built
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  in collateral, it seems, and they've kind of become they just kind of
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  got anointed with Oregon. And if you're gonna bring Oregon. You gotta bring
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  Washington and just they get a little bit more than maybe than what they've done.
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  I mean they get they get the gasketball. Basketball has been all right.
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  Yeah, they've been bumbling around there in basketball for a while. Yeah.
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  Here's so this is last year, September twenty fourth, they had sixty
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  five thousand. Okay, September thirty forty one thousand, October eight thirty nine
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  thousand. October fifteen sixty three thousand. So I don't know who the opponents
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  were, but probably they are there. Those are attendance numbers, tennis numbers.
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  That doesn't matter anymore. Nobody cares for TV. Guys don't care for
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  TV. I don't care text. But okay, okay, so let's say
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  let's say Washington is playing Wiscon. What's your interest factor? What's your interest
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  in this? Okay? My interest factor is is Washington good? I'll watch
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  it if Washington's good. If it's going to be a slap fast and I
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  shrugged my shoulders. So if Washington's but okay, well it's early season,
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  it's it's this third week in Washington's playing Wisconsin. I'll watch it. I'll
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  watch it until I see like, if Washington's terrible, then I'll show it,
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  turn it off, And if it's a competitive game, I would absolutely
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  watch it, all right, brand you can't ask me that question. You
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  know me your games. I'm watching every every one of them. Okay,
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  yeah, so I'm not a good all right judge. Okay, okay,
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  just wondering. Adam from Weirton writes in I'm hoping that Weirdon can get some
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  kerchevail sometime soon. Well, it's way up there in northern Penning. It's
• 1:10:43
  a problem, right, We've just up there. You could have dropped them
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  off. I was there this morning. I was there this morning. But
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  I I mean, i'd be like Groover bringing those six those in the back
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  of my car driving to driving driving that New Parland. I don't know if
• 1:10:56
  he did that. Who you're saying it's not public? Comes on on there?
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  Okay, No, Tony just saying stuff he shouldn't be saying. Well,
• 1:11:02
  but Gruver drives around with sixtels in the back of his car, doesn't
• 1:11:08
  man be placed to live? Means what happening around around listening to podcast figuring
• 1:11:15
  out what Tony throws out there that he then has to go, Oh,
• 1:11:19
  geez, Tony mentioned the food court again. Tell you what, we got
• 1:11:23
  a great commitment on the food court this week from barbecue right from what barbecue?
• 1:11:29
  Okay, barbecue is in big I mean, is this is this is
• 1:11:32
  happening. Yeah. I don't know if they're going to be there every week,
• 1:11:38
  but here we go. Here we got a got a commitment from a
• 1:11:40
  pizza place. Don't do that stop world's number one pizza, number one pizza
• 1:11:47
  in the world. And the world they're in, Are they Brad No,
• 1:11:55
  he's way over his skis on that. They're they're not even they have not
• 1:11:57
  said they are in. I don't even know if they've been asked. Yeah,
• 1:12:01
  don't let details get in the water. And it's just unbelievable, Tonty.
• 1:12:06
  You do have. But you know what we say last show, Well,
• 1:12:10
  you never get in, you never get in trouble for these things.
• 1:12:13
  Well, he's gonna when three thousand people show up to the food court and
• 1:12:15
  it's not he won't be there. He won't be there. You'll be there,
• 1:12:18
  that's the thing together, and he will be there. I'll be there.
• 1:12:21
  I'll go over before the game. First games at what six o'clock,
• 1:12:27
  six o'clock first game. I'll stop by absolutely meet with the folks. Texter
• 1:12:34
  gentlemen, I was listening to another podcast. He had a logical, therefore,
• 1:12:41
  it won't be used idea for scheduling. When the conference goes to sixteen
• 1:12:45
  teams, do four geographic pods. You would probably play each team in your
• 1:12:51
  pod every year in football twice. In basketball, you would play each team
• 1:12:56
  in the other three pods every other year in football one game per year in
• 1:12:59
  basket. Well, it keeps the number of conference games where they are now
• 1:13:01
  signed by Frank and Clarksburg. So U yeah, So I was talking with
• 1:13:06
  someone yesterday when this thing goes to sixteen teams. They thought, maybe you
• 1:13:13
  play every In basketball, you play every team once and then you play three
• 1:13:17
  teams twice and that's your eighteen games. Is that what? That's what?
• 1:13:26
  So you so you have like three teams you always play twice? Correct?
• 1:13:30
  Okay, yeah? Correct? Who would that be for West Virginia, Cincinnati,
• 1:13:33
  Central Florida, Florida. Someone from Central Florida's gonna hear this and they're
• 1:13:39
  gonna lose their They don't call them UCF. Oh yeah, you're supposed to
• 1:13:43
  SECF, I know, and I don't mean that respect. With all due
• 1:13:47
  respect, I don't mean to like to be a ding dong and do it
• 1:13:49
  to be funny. I just they used to be and it's just like we
• 1:13:53
  haven't. We don't play them all. I'll get it to UCF. I'll
• 1:13:56
  get to uc It would be your third Oh heck, I don't know.
• 1:14:00
  It could be Iowa State, it could be Houston. But I mean,
• 1:14:03
  can't you have I mean, you have a rivalry with Kansas, right,
• 1:14:06
  I mean, well, so everyone's got a rebel ruth can like everyone wants
• 1:14:11
  Kansas. Okay, everyone wants Kansas. Would you like Kansas to come to
• 1:14:14
  your gym every year? Yeah? You say, yeah, we'll take that.
• 1:14:16
  We'll sign up for that one. Let's do that. I will that.
• 1:14:19
  I've said this before, and I guess it couldn't have stayed like this.
• 1:14:24
  I've always contended the Big Twelve had it right. Unfortunately playing everybody awesome
• 1:14:28
  in boasts for playing basketball twice that I liked that. Oh yeah, this
• 1:14:32
  is gonna bump me out. Now to not play Kansas and basketball for two
• 1:14:36
  seasons or to go you don't get Iowa State football for three? All that
• 1:14:40
  weirdness that happened that that will bump me out. And playing everybody, whether
• 1:14:44
  it's in football or basketball, twice creates this real strong sense of equity or
• 1:14:48
  as like when you get into the other situation, you're going like, well,
• 1:14:53
  they didn't have to play, they didn't have to go to Kansas.
• 1:14:55
  Yeah, I didn't have to go there, so there was so and so
• 1:14:58
  that creates all that it's gonna happen, that's gonna happen. I don't like
• 1:15:00
  that, Yeah you don't. That's why we're going to the Pac twelve.
• 1:15:05
  Pay every every football team twice, three times, four teams. You can
• 1:15:12
  play it three times, call it a year. Pay twelve games. You're
• 1:15:15
  out. You like baseball, go to Oregon State, just stay there for
• 1:15:18
  a couple of weeks playing three times. So happy, I'm gonna hit the
• 1:15:23
  music and this will be the end of our show sabbatical. A lot is
• 1:15:28
  going to happen. By the time you sit back in this chair for another
• 1:15:30
  three guys, Well, the next time you sit in that chair, that
• 1:15:34
  Beanie Bishop will I will find the defensive player of the year became why It'll
• 1:15:39
  be well on as well as capturing his high and the Big twelve we'll have
• 1:15:43
  twenty eight teams, and then players will have rushed for a touchdown. According
• 1:15:46
  to Kardi, here, let's do it. Let's do a mini. Let's
• 1:15:50
  do a mini one of those. By the next time kerchival sits down,
• 1:15:56
  how many rushing how many different players will have scored rushing touchdown for West Virginia.
• 1:16:00
  You want to put a number on it, I'll put a number on
• 1:16:02
  it. Go the numbers. Two and a half. I was gonna say
• 1:16:08
  two and maybe one, maybe one and a half, number two. It'll
• 1:16:15
  take under two and a half. Yeah, I mean it'll be over two,
• 1:16:18
  and you're going under over your one and a half under his two and
• 1:16:20
  a half. I think it's two two, Okay. Hell, by the
• 1:16:24
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• 1:16:29
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• 1:17:29
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• 1:17:33
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