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The Murder of Elizabeth Olten · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the case we're talking about today, so.
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  Speaker 2: Buckle up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, very little trigger warning on this one.
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  Speaker 1: It deals with child harm and self harm as well.
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  Speaker 1: Oh just heads up to you out there to let
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  Speaker 1: you know if those things are a little sensitive for you.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to dive into that today. So sweet, Yeah
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  Speaker 1: you ready on that.
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  Speaker 2: Note, I guess I am?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it. Well. Many people refer to this
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  Speaker 1: case by two different names. There is Elizabeth Olton, who
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  Speaker 1: is the victim or the perpetrator Alyssa Bustamante Abusta Monte.
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  Speaker 1: People have said it both ways. I'm going to be saying,
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  Speaker 1: so by either one of those names, you can att
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  Speaker 1: this case. We're going to go with Elizabeth Olton because
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  Speaker 1: we want to talk about the victim as much as
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  Speaker 1: we can. So are you ready?
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  Speaker 2: I am ready?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? Well, forty five minutes that's how long Elizabeth Olton
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  Speaker 1: was missing before her mother was on the phone with police.
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  Speaker 1: And that's how long it took fifteen year old Elissa
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  Speaker 1: Busamonte to kill her nine year old neighbor, Elizabeth Olton,
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  Speaker 1: for the thrill of it. Holy shit, this is the
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  Speaker 1: case of Elizabeth.
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  Speaker 2: Olton, fifteen, the murderer.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, holy crap. So Elizabeth was born December fifteenth, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine, and she was living a happy life just
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  Speaker 1: as a regular nine year old girl from Missouri. She
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  Speaker 1: was a student at Trail Elementary School. She was a
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  Speaker 1: very girly girl, described as very social. She was often
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  Speaker 1: also described as a little girl made of sugar and
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  Speaker 1: spice and everything nice sort of thing. She loved cats,
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  Speaker 1: she'd and of course loved the color pink. When you're
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  Speaker 1: a girly girl that tends to go hand.
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  Speaker 2: In hand dresses, yes, playing dress up, all that jazz exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So I think you can relate to her very much
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  Speaker 1: so because that was definitely you as a younger girl
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  Speaker 1: as well, the very girly girl type.
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  Speaker 2: Not actually as a child, no, what I was more
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  Speaker 2: of like a little bit of a tomboy. I feel like,
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  Speaker 2: really like literally just in the bush all the time.
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  Speaker 1: But you always had like unicorns and rainbows and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and not really.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I turned to a girly girl more
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  Speaker 2: so when I was like a teenager.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I know you had the tomboy You look disgusted.
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  Speaker 1: It's just new to me. I know you have the
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  Speaker 1: tomboy stuff with like maybe softball or sports and that
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  Speaker 1: sort of stuff. But I thought you were always the
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  Speaker 1: girly girls.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess I wore dresses and stuff too, but
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  Speaker 2: I was also just like more. I don't think I
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  Speaker 2: would be super girly girl as a child.
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  Speaker 1: Well Elizabeth definitely was.
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  Speaker 2: So which is I think that's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely own it. So she was the girly girl. But
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  Speaker 1: then there was her neighbor, Alissa Busamonte, who lived not
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  Speaker 1: far from Elizabeth. Alyssa seemed like a good person with
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  Speaker 1: good grades to anyone at first first glance. However, in private,
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  Speaker 1: her dark side came out a little bit more. And
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  Speaker 1: the term I say dark side here, I'm not talking
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  Speaker 1: about Star Wars. I'm not actually taking that term lightly here.
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  Speaker 1: I literally mean dark side, Okay, okay. And though it
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  Speaker 1: isn't a sign of a dark side specifically by any means,
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  Speaker 1: she did deal in gothic styles and morbid fascinations. And
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  Speaker 1: I do want to throw this in there though, before
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  Speaker 1: we move on about the whole Gothic morbid fascinations of
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  Speaker 1: many of the kindest people I know. Actually, I can
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  Speaker 1: describe that way. A fascination with death, in my experience,
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  Speaker 1: is often accompanied by a respect for the dead, and
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  Speaker 1: keeping things like skulls and bones, or even researching murder
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  Speaker 1: cases for a podcast, can actually be ways of honoring
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  Speaker 1: the dead and remembering those who have been lost in time.
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  Speaker 1: So I just want to throw that out there that
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  Speaker 1: that fascination with death or morbid things doesn't necessarily mean
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  Speaker 1: it's a bad person. No, it's just different views.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I just personally think that the topic of
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  Speaker 2: death has avoided too much when it's inevitable.
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  Speaker 1: Really, I agree, I agree. I think people who have passed,
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  Speaker 1: or individuals who have passed, should be remembered in any
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  Speaker 1: ways they can be or honored if possible. Even so,
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  Speaker 1: she did have that fascination, but I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: necessarily paints a bad picture. However, accompanying a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the other things, it might begin to paint a picture
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  Speaker 1: that way. Alyssa was fascinated with these things, but like
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  Speaker 1: I said, she had many other things going on that
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  Speaker 1: might attribute to it very alarming behaviors that would be
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  Speaker 1: be considered concerning. Let's just say that she would often
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  Speaker 1: perform self harm and cut herself. She would in fact
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  Speaker 1: cut the word hate, oh my goodness, also peace signs
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  Speaker 1: into herself. She would even go as far as to
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  Speaker 1: boast about her self arm, her self harm, sorry, and
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  Speaker 1: list cutting as one of her hobbies on her YouTube profile,
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  Speaker 1: as well as killing people as one of her hobbies.
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  Speaker 2: WHOA, Yeah, that is just never something you would list
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  Speaker 2: no or should be a hobby.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I understand it's something people go through,
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  Speaker 1: but generally it's not something people are proud.
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  Speaker 2: Of or okay, I meant killing people, Oh yes, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and then you're just like something people go through.
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  Speaker 1: In my mind was like I was talking about the
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  Speaker 1: self harm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, at no point. No, I mean, yeah, it's it's definitely,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's something people go through. Still probably not
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  Speaker 2: something you should be listing on your your hobbies are whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I understand, like a cry for help is
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  Speaker 1: a cry for help. I totally get that. But to
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  Speaker 1: be like almost bragging about it or boaching it or
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  Speaker 1: listening or taking it as far as saying that, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a hobby of mine kind of thing, like
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of messed up. So and to be fair,
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  Speaker 1: like we're gonna learn Alyssa is very she's messed up,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't want to talk too bad about her
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  Speaker 1: because she clearly has issues.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So.
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  Speaker 1: Now this is also jumping ahead a bit, but I
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  Speaker 1: do think it's really important to note this now rather
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  Speaker 1: than later. At the time of Alyssa's arrest, she had
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  Speaker 1: over three hundred self inflicted cuts on her body. Whoa,
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  Speaker 1: along with burn marks and bites.
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  Speaker 2: That's like a lot.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot. So that's to the extent that she
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  Speaker 1: was self harming herself.
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  Speaker 2: So wow. And she lived at home, yes, she did
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  Speaker 2: not saying that that's her parents false, false or anything,
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  Speaker 2: but she like, I'm curious, so she was get in
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  Speaker 2: the process of getting help or anything.
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  Speaker 1: Well, like many other people around the world, though, like
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  Speaker 1: Alyssa didn't just develop these traits out of thin air,
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  Speaker 1: and she didn't exactly grow up in a healthy home.
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  Speaker 1: Though her parents had a history of drug use. Her
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  Speaker 1: mother frequently overdosed and occasions apparently even in front of Alyssa.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, yes, okay, that is not okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yikes. So eventually child services removed Alyssa from custody
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  Speaker 1: with her parents, okay, and put her in care of
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  Speaker 1: her grandmother. So yeah, they took her. Grandmother took legal
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  Speaker 1: custody of her and her three younger siblings in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and two.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a lot of kiddos, yes, for a grandma
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  Speaker 2: to take on.
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  Speaker 1: It, one hundred percent, But it wasn't just taking the
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  Speaker 1: children away from custody of drug use in the home
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  Speaker 1: and potential overdoses. Alyssa's father, Caesar, was actually serving time
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  Speaker 1: in prison as well.
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  Speaker 2: So four do we know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not too sure. As far as I could find.
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  Speaker 1: There was some physical altercations. That's all the info I
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: could find. So yeah, interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So abuse potentially then, but not necessary I guess in
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  Speaker 2: the house it could be outside of the yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it was it was it was dark, needless to
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  Speaker 1: say what The situation she grew up in so.
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  Speaker 2: Does not sound ideal, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So despite living that I don't want to say
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  Speaker 1: nightmare with her parents, but definitely not a healthy, healthy
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  Speaker 1: home with her parents, she did move with her grandmother
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  Speaker 1: and she had a loving relationship and a loving home
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  Speaker 1: with her grandma. That's good, But she still had this
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  Speaker 1: darkness inside her. She had violent and suicidal thoughts and
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  Speaker 1: even tried to commit suicide on multiple attempts, once specifically
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  Speaker 1: by swallowing a bottle of pills when she was just
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  Speaker 1: thirteen years old.
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  Speaker 2: Holy okay, she needs like some one to help her.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely, I'm not too sure why she didn't seek a
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  Speaker 1: lot more help than she got. She did get prescribed
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  Speaker 1: antidepressants and saw several therapists, don't get me wrong here,
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  Speaker 1: and she was diagnosed with depression, but she went. What
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: did go unnotice, though, was the antisocial personality disorder that
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  Speaker 1: she would later be.
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  Speaker 2: Diagnosed with later as an after certain something happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it is most unfortunate in the fact that Alyssa
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  Speaker 1: did talk to some of her friends about her dark
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  Speaker 1: side and even mentioning the idea of killing people to them,
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  Speaker 1: But unfortunately people didn't take it seriously. I mean, who's
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  Speaker 1: going to take it seriously? Your friends just saying something
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  Speaker 1: like well.
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  Speaker 2: Especially at that age, Yes, I mean as an if
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  Speaker 2: you were like an adult and someone was saying that,
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  Speaker 2: I think it would be taken more seriously. Definitely, think
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  Speaker 2: so like teenagers, Yeah, sometimes they just say interesting things, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and don't take each other seriously at all.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know how to take her ourselves seriously,
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  Speaker 1: let alone someone else. We're all just trying to fit in,
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  Speaker 1: and we're just trying to take what someone else says
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  Speaker 1: and maybe have a cool reaction, be like play it
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  Speaker 1: cool or whatever, like you know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 1: of course, like teenagers aren't really going to understand how
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  Speaker 1: to how to take that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, that is Alyssa. So this takes us too. October
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  Speaker 1: twenty first, two thousand and nine, It was your typical
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday night at home for Patty, Patty Priest and her
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  Speaker 1: three kids, Anthony, Stephanie, and the youngest, nine year old
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  Speaker 1: Elizabeth Olton. To quote Patty, she said, she was going
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  Speaker 1: to be in a play at school. She was practicing
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  Speaker 1: her lines and doing little songs and irritating her brother,
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  Speaker 1: and I was getting ready to cook dinner. So that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of evening that they were enjoying at home.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds just like a nice evening, a nice family
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  Speaker 2: evening exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Brother and sister getting Patty and kissing each other off. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: making some dinner.
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  Speaker 2: You know, perfect.
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  Speaker 1: And it was just then that there was a knock
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  Speaker 1: at the front door. It was a six year old
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  Speaker 1: girl who was Alyssa's friend. Oh sorry, not Alisa's friend,
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  Speaker 1: Alyssa's sister, and it was she was coming over to
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  Speaker 1: see if Elizabeth could come and play. So that makes
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  Speaker 1: sense because the name no.
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  Speaker 2: It does. I'm just like wanting her to say no,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think that she does.
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  Speaker 1: No. Well, Elizabeth was excited to go and play with
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  Speaker 1: her friend. I mean they were already they were already friends,
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  Speaker 1: yet she knew her from school. It was a relatively
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  Speaker 1: small town they're from, so like all the kids kind
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  Speaker 1: of know each other and they played on a frequent basis.
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  Speaker 1: Many of the kids from their household came over for
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: some of the siblings and vice versa. It was a
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  Speaker 1: normal thing for these kids to play together. It was
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  Speaker 1: nothing out of the ordinary. The two girls bounced with
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  Speaker 1: excitement and pleaded with Elizabeth's mom to let her go.
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  Speaker 1: And now, originally Elizabeth's mom Patty said no, as dinner
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  Speaker 1: was just getting started it wouldn't be long before it
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  Speaker 1: was ready. But still, of course, kids being kids, they
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  Speaker 1: persisted and pleaded exactly so finally Patty said, okay, you
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  Speaker 1: can go for an hour, but be home by six.
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  Speaker 1: She gave the girls one hour to go and play.
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  Speaker 1: The sunset at six thirty pm, and Patty knows her
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  Speaker 1: daughter Elizabeth will be back on time for dinner because
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  Speaker 1: she is quote unquote deathly afraid of the dark and
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  Speaker 1: the deep, deadense wood that separates their homes between the
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  Speaker 1: two families turns into a scary place for young girls
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  Speaker 1: once night falls. I mean, imagine going through woods at
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  Speaker 1: night when you're a kid, terrifying dark.
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  Speaker 2: Why what's in there?
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  Speaker 1: No, it just scary darkness.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still afraid of the dark woods.
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  Speaker 1: So the same, same, I get it. So the girls
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  Speaker 1: were filled with excitement and quickly bounded outside towards her
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  Speaker 1: friend's house. Now that you can find the name of
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  Speaker 1: this friend, but because this friend is only six years old,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying the name, just you know, Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's fair, just so you guys are are curious why
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  Speaker 1: I'm not if you're curious and why.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying the name or anything, but that's fair.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not even sure if they use the real
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  Speaker 1: name and reports either, but just in case. So so
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  Speaker 1: Patty continued making dinner, but by six o'clock Elizabeth hadn't
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  Speaker 1: made it home. So immediately Patty calls her neighbors and
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  Speaker 1: they tell Patty that Elizabeth isn't there, but the youngest
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  Speaker 1: granddaughter who was out playing with Elizabeth was something wasn't right.
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  Speaker 1: So Patty hung up the phone, dowed nine one one,
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  Speaker 1: and reported her daughter missing. The search for Elizabeth began
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  Speaker 1: almost immediately. By the time the search started, with the
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  Speaker 1: aid of hundreds of volunteers, that began to accumulate. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to put this into perspective. I mean
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  Speaker 1: hundreds of volunteers. This town is about twelve hundred people strong.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: So we're talking to Blake love that third of the town.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Everyone that could probably came out. Okay, but I actually
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: might have a question. Yes, I'm not sure if I'm confused.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: The little six year old that she was playing with,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: who was her sister?
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Alyssa?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, it is Alyssa. Okay. For a minute there, I
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: was sinking like it wasn't.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: No, it is okay. So it was getting dark and
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: cold out and the weather turned for the worst. It
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: started pouring rain, and searching in the woodsy terrain turned
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: it into a difficult, difficult process. A firefighter volunteer who
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: joined the search for Elizabeth was quoted, there's a lot
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: of rocks, trees, and brush piles. It's a very rough
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: place to be. The search included dogs, firefighters, police helicopters,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: eventually even FBI and highway patrol.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: We searched along a stretch of the highway that ran
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: along the two girls' houses. They went over the area
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: but were unsuccessful.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I just have to say that I love
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: this because lots of times it's like it takes so
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: long for a search like that to even come together,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: because you have to wait like a certain amount of
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: time before you I can even report someone missing. But
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: this seems like they just went to business right away.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Exactly. It was immediate, and I mean until this point though,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: like the scenario the community had going they even began
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to think that, okay, maybe it was like a predator
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: snatched her up into like a vehicle or something like
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: a sexual preditor. So I think that's why it became
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: so immediate, because they were thinking it was a kidnapping.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: At first, right, So.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in response to that, actually, they had checkpoints on
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: every road going in and out of the area, checking
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: vehicles in case she was on board, and they were
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: also in contact with all the registered local sex offenders
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: in the area in precaution of their involvements as well.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: They were covering their fucking basis.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like they were so thorough. I can't believe it.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: And I'm not too sure when they implemented this. I'm
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: guessing it was probably within twelve hours they did this.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: But they talked about even having divers in local ponds
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and stuff like body searching. Wow.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fantastic.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: They went all out trying to find Elizabeth. Now, all
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: this while the frantic mother Patty, had been calling her
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: daughter's cell phone NonStop since Elizabeth had disappeared, unfortunately with
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: no response, just going to voicemail every time.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Jeez, and every time you're putting phoning, you're just like,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Hope is there. Oh my gosh, she's going to answer
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: this time, She's going to answer, and like.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: She didn't never answers.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Now, the lack of answering on the phone is terrifying.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. There the prospect of Elizabeth having
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: a cell phone is a little bit of a silver
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: lining because investigators were able to contact the local cell
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: phone company and order for an emergency ping, which is
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: basically a cell phone generated signal that will bounce to
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: the nearest cell phone tower and ping a GPS location,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: which is awesome. Luckily, the cell company managed to get
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: a response from the cell phone. Yes, it pinged a
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: total of only three times before the battery died, so
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: like ping, ping, ping, dead dead. So they were lucky
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: enough that they got it. They did it when it happened,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: because I mean, potentially even one more phone call from
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the mom could have drained the battery before that.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Its location showed that Elizabeth was somewhere, or at least
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the phone was somewhere in the woods between the two
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: girls' houses.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: So where they were looking, yep.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, they weren't looking just there. They
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: were looking.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: They're looking all over the place, but they were that
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: was one what they were looking at.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So by now it's Thursday afternoon and almost twenty
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: four hours passed since Elizabeth has disappeared, and the fact
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: that all this has happened in twenty four.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Hours is amazing.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: So far, there's been no sign of what had happened
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: or Elizabeth. Investigators decided to turn back towards where it
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: all started. The last person to see Elizabeth her six
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: year old friend. Now, Previously, she had told police that
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: she had played with her friend outside for about an
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: hour before she went home and they separated their ways. However,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: this time the story changed a bit. She told police
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: that while her and Elizabeth were outside playing, she got
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: stuck in some thorn bushes and cried out for her
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: big sister to come and help her, her big sister
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: being Alyssa Abusimonte. Now, as it turns out, a lot
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: of the local kids in the area were accounted for.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: In fact, all of them were accounted for at the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: time of Elizabeth's disappearance, all except for Alisa. In fact,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Alysa didn't even show up for school the next day either,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and it just so happened that it was her first
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and only unexcused absence from.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: School, So no one knew where she was either.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: No one knew where she was either. I mean they
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: know where she is, but there's just what have you
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: been doing?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: You know? Oh? Okay, I see, I see.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: So during questioning with investigators, they find Alyssa to be
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: calm and forthcoming and not someone who screams out a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: suspect or anything like that. In fact, she wasn't even
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: really a suspect at all, that is until something was
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: found in the woods where Elizabeth went missing.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: What was it?
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Search and rescuers find what appeared to be a freshly
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: dug grave.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, no, just.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Big enough for Elizabeth. The scene was being processed and
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: evidence was being collected before digging the grave, even before
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: seeing what's down there, right. Ah. When Elizabeth admitted to
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: digging the hole, she said she dug it for fun
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and would do so frequently. But what was inside the hole?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: What do you think is inside the hole?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: The nine year old or an animal?
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Nothing?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Nothing?
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Nothing? Oh though, Elizabeth. Oh sorry, Alyssa okay, yeah.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Earlier you said Elizabeth dug the hole?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, Alissa, sorry, Alyssa dug the hole?
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, nothing. She just randomly digs grapes.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: She said that she will bury dead animals if she
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: finds them.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: That she's probably killed.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Probably two investigators.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Something wasn't right about this, A child sized hole that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Alyssa admitted to digging for fun. Something seems off. However,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: there's no evidence against her. I mean, it's just a
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: it's just a hole in the ground.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I mean that could be a good stress reliever. Go
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: dig some holes.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe good way to get a workout for the day. Maybe.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Who.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: So she was hardly a person of interest, let alone,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: like I said, a suspect. They have no evidence, no nothing.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: They have no way of getting warrants for an arrest
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: or even warrant for searching homes. But thankfully though, they
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: got consent from Alissa's grandmother to search the home, so
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: they didn't even need a warrant. And once inside Alyssa's room,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: her dark side was no longer hidden.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, is the grandma know what's in the room?
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I wonder.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: She would have had to have known at least some
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: of the stuff that's inside the room, because inside the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: room is fairly disturbing. There's words scrawled on the wall,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: some in ink and some in Alissa's own blood.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: And there was a poem that Alyssa wrote in the
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: wall that says this, And I'm going to give you
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a trigger warning here for self harm. Okay, I cut
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to focus when my train is racing, I cut to
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: make physical what I feel inside. I cut to see
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: blood because I like it. I don't like to cut,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: but I can't give it up.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: That is a poem from a fifteen year old girl.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: There's also an outline drawn on the wall of a
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: person with the name of Alyssa's youngest sister next to it,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and there appear to be multiple knife slashes across it
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: in various places. An outline of her sister, an outline
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: of an individual or a person drawn on the wall
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: with the name of her sister written next to it,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and knife slashes all through it. Oh my gosh, or
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: slashes of some sort.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's like super troublesome yep, huh wow, that right, okay.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Most importantly, though, they found Alyssa's diary. Inside were more
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: disturbing entries about suicide, self harm, and dark fantasies, but
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the last entry stood out most of all to investigators.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: It was dated the same day of Elizabeth's disappearance, and
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: it was scribbled out heavily in blue ink. Except for
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the lessons that said now I've got to go to
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: churchl Oh my gosh, they were able to read two
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: more words within the scribbled out mess. Those two words
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: were slit throat.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Holy now I have to go to church. Lol. Yep, Okay,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: that's super fucked.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: It's super fucked.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: That is just beyond Okay.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: You're cool.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm cool.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: You sure.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yep. That's wild that someone could even do something so terrible.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just assuming, I guess, but we kind of know
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: and then just like write that in their journal. Yeah.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: The biggest thing is how nonchalant she is about this.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: But I mean if she okay, but if she also
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: scribbled everything out, is that showing that maybe she did
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: have some remorse, she knew what she did was wrong.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Or maybe she's just trying to hide something.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I've been hiding something. Is still kind of
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: showing that you did something wrong.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Doesn't mean that there's remorse, I guess. Yeah, it
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: just means that you know that if someone sees this,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: you're in shit to sche right. It's the same reason why, say,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: if someone's going to go have an affair, they take
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: off their wedding ring.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Oh god.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah. Okay. So now it's Friday, the twenty third,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: two days since Elizabeth's disappearance, and Melissa was brought into
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the interrogation room for questioning investigators take it slow, and
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: they deliberately try to leave empty air quiet to draw
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: out uncomfortable situations and make Alyssa talk.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: That's a really good technique, actually it is.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And they said that there was times after questions they
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: would just ask a question and just wait, and that
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: there would be dead air for sometimes of forty five
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: seconds to a minute as they just stared at Alyssa
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: waiting for her to answer.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, in both scenarios of that situation, I
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: would have so much trouble with that dead air.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Right. The anxiety builds so throughout the investigator, sorry, throughout
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the interrogation or the questioning, they start asking some questions
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and more questions, and eventually they reveal that they have
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: her diary and they talk about last entry okay, And
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: in fact they show her the diary and in that moment,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: investigators say, that's the moment that she knew that they knew,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: that they knew. They ask Alissa quote was her throat,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and knowing she was caught, she replied, yes.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Wow, that is this is just so disturbing.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that a fifteen year old cut the throat of a.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Nine I'm a nine year old. I was playing with
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: her little sister for the love of golf.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like so almost robotic presenting this
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: case because it's I'm sorry if I am, but I
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: just like I have to try and throw out any
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: emotions because this one really gets to me. So I'm
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: just trying to just be as robotic as I can
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: because that's the only way I can handle this case.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Well, it's fucking wild.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: So she came clean and she told them how everything
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: went down.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Seriously, it didn't really take much. Then.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: It did not take much because she could.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Have gone along hiding this for longer. Really, she probably
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: got it found, probably eventually, but she seemed like she
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: kind of broke pretty easily.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: She would have gotten found, I guarantee that. But she
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: did break easy as well. Yeah, but to be fair,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: she's fifteen. Yeah, imagine being in an interrogation room with
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: professional interrogators that clock ticking that side. They stare at
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: you and hold your diary saying we know what's her
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: throat cut. I'm pretty sure any most fifteen year olds
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: are going to break oh gosh in that situation. Anyways,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: So Alissa told everything. She said that Elizabeth was leaving
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: to go home after playing with her sister. She was
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: going to go walk along the highway, which is only
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a few minute walk along the edge of the woods home,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: but Elizabeth said that she was going to walk her
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: home and she was going to take her the short
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: way through the woods. Now Elizabeth trusted Alyssa. She knew
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: her friend's big sister. As you would like, I said,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: all the kids in the small community knew each other
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: through school, and whether they were friends or not, they
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: know of each other. Right, it's a small community, so
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: she knows who Alyssa is. It's her friend's big sister.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: She goes to school with her all this, there's that
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: trust built in there, so she trusted her. Okay, let's go.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: This part kind of hurts me a little bit here.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: It's such small detail, but it hurts. Alissa took Elizabeth's
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: hand and walked her into the woods. No, she led
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: her into the darkening woods. As it got later and later,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: it was a perfect opportunity for her to live out
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: many of her fantasies to kill, and she took that opportunity.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Alissa led Elizabeth fifteen minutes off the path, deeper and
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: deeper into the woods, towards a hole that she had
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: pre dug days earlier, and once there, she grabbed Elizabeth
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: began strangling her and as well stabbing her with a
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: kitchen knife she had. Oh, she stabbed her, from what
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: she told investigators, six or seven times in the chest
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: and finally slid her.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Oh oh my gosh, okay, I'm like this poor little girl. Yep,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: she was terrified of the woods and then this happens.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: And the only the only thing there that she feels
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: comfortable with is a little.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: One that's doing this to her.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's a lot.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: It's so much so. Alyssa then dumped Elizabeth's body into
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: the grave, and from there she led investigators to the
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: site where Elizabeth was buried in the shallow grave, covered
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: in only a few inches of dirt, and according to investigators,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: there were parts of her still sticking up out of
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the ground.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Oh and they didn't come across this then, Hey.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: They said that they were in the area multiple times,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: and it's not like this was hidden well by any means. Yeah,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: but it just so happened to just blend in really well,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: they would have come across it, guaranteed with a body
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: sticking out of the ground like this, they would have
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: come across it, but it just so happened that they
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: just happened to miss it. And the two or three
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: times that they were going by.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, I have a question, but you might get to it.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: What's your question.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I'm just so curious if this was like premeditated then
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: if she had been planning this, But you might be
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: getting to this, so I can huge.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll kind of talk about that in a minute here. Yeah.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: So later, through forensic analysis, they were able to uncover
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: more of Elissa's diary entry and it tells the same
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: story she told investigators. Here is some of what she
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: wrote in her diary. So this is that last page,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the same day Elizabeth went missing. I just fucking killed someone.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I strangled them and slipped their throat and stabbed them.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Now they're dead. I don't know how to feel at
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the moment. It was amazing. As soon as you get
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: over the oh my god, I can't do this feeling,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: it's pretty enjoyable. I'm kind of nervous and shaky though.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Right now, Okay, I go to go to church now. Lol.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Wow, how fucked up is that? That is fucked It
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: was amazing yep. Okay, so literally, if they didn't catch her,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: she would have just gone on to be like a
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: mega serial killer.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Yep, for sure. Oh yeah, she would have done it
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: again and again and again totally.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: And I'm feel like she probably would have already done
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: this a million times to animals.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: But there's potential, but yeah, we don't know. Elizabeth autopsy
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: reveals that she had been strangled, her throat and wrists
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: had been slashed, and she had been stabbed, So it
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: lines up with not only the diary entry, but with
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: what Alyssa told investigators after she was arrested. She gave
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: a half hearted apology to Elizabeth's parents and explained to
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the police that she wanted to see the light go
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: out of her eyes, a simple and cold explanation given
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: by Alyssa herself. She wanted to know what it felt
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: like to kill someone.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: That's brutal.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: That is the not that there is an acceptable answer,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: but that is the least acceptable answer to that question.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: On why.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like that, I just saw the parents like that
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: wouldn't even I mean not that anything would help you,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: but that would just like the anger that they would
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: just have.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, I I can't begin to even think how
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: to feel in that situation. And I'm trying to choose
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: my words wisely because I'm so angry with Alyssa and
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I'm so disturbed by this. But I know that there's
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: so much going on in her head and she needs
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  Speaker 1: so much help. At the same time, there is no
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  Speaker 1: excuse for taking someone else's life. I do know that
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: she needs help herself, like deeply needs help.
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  Speaker 2: And this was in two thousand and nine. Yes, and sorry,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: where was this again?
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I want to say, Missouri, I think I'm going to
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: scroll past here. Where is it?
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Missouri, Missouri?
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta go find my spot again.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm asking you a hard questions.
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  Speaker 1: Good, I got it. We're almost there, We're almost at
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  Speaker 1: the end. So we got this.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to point out here that there were
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: actually two graves dug because you had asked if it
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: was premeditated, because the investigators found one that was empty, right,
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  Speaker 1: and Elizabeth sorry, Alissa.
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  Speaker 2: Said that she had dug it.
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  Speaker 1: Said she had dug it. It's like Abby, and then
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Alyssa dug all right, dug another one to bury Elizabeth in.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: So she had like two on the road.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: She had two on the ready, Alyssa had twin younger brothers.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: They believe that Alisa was planning on killing her two
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: younger brothers. Really and it turns out that she had
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the opportunity and took it on Elizabeth instead.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, I don't even know what to say. Because she
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: had three younger siblings. Ah, yes, so twins and then
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: the one that was playing with Elizabeth. Whoa that just okay,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: not that killing a list like, but to even think
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: about doing it to your own siblings is just like
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: a next level.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Really well, she clearly did it, not to just the brothers,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: because am sorry I almost said the name her younger,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: youngest sister who went out playing with Elizabeth. She had
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: a silhouette of her drawn on her bedroom wall with
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the name written next to it and slashes through it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Okay in the ground. If the grandma saw that, oh
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: my gosh, I just feel like this is just also terrifying,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: which it begs.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: The question how much in the know was this grandma?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Was she not going into the room?
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Was she A lot of times teenagers don't want you
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: going in their room.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: That's true. So either she was turning a blind eye
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: or she was just giving that much space to her.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know, then I say, fuck it, go in
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: the room.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if she doesn't know, if there's anything wrong,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: if she doesn't have a reason to go in the room,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: you know, make a reason.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know, gosh what these people are doing, and
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: there you gotta check on them.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just going to change the sheets, honey, it's
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: been three months.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: So clearly. Alyssa was arrested and she was charged with
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: first degree murder in the death of Elizabeth Olton. She
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: appeared in court on November seventeenth, two thousand and nine,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: where the judge ruled that she would be tried as
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: an adult.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Really, okay, that's surprising to me.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: So she returned to court on February eighth, twenty twelve.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Now eighteen year old Alyssa admitted to taking a knife
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: to cut the throat of Elizabeth.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: She admitted it.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: She admitted it. She pleaded guilty to the charge of
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: second degree murder and armed criminal action.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I'm so worried. I need to know if she's still in.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Jail, please, She gave a final statement before the judge.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: She said, if I could give my life to bring
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: her back. I would. I just want to say I'm
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: sorry for what happened. I'm so sorry.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's gone some help.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming so she We've gotten a lot of help
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: in there time. She was then sentenced to life imprisonment
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: with the possibility of parole, and due to Senate Bill
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: twenty six Elizabeth, I'm sorry, Alyssa. I keep getting their
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: names mixed up because they sound similar when I go
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: to say it, Alyssa is eligible for parole in July
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four. The bill states, this act provides
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: that any offender sentenced to a term of imprisonment amounting
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: to fifteen years or more, or multiple terms that amount
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: to fifteen years or more, who was under eighteen years
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: of age at the time of the commission of the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: offense maybe eligible for parole after serving fifteen years incarceration,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: regardless of whether the case is final for the purpose
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: of appeal, Basically saying, someone under the age of eighteen,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: if they have a sentence of over fifteen years, they
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: are eligible for parole after fifteen years, regardless of the sentence.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: And like she'd only be in her thirties at that point, yes,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: which is really young, but I mean, grant you a
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: lot can have happened in that time that could been
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: like rehabilitation, but like, gosh, she just did something so brutal.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, And this is one of those cases where it's
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: she did something unforgivable, absolutely unforgivable. And I don't know
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: if they should she should ever be walking free because
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I understand that there is such a heavy ounce of
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: like mental health being played in this case, because clearly
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: she was affected drastically with that mm hmm. But she
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: took it life. So you have this, It's two sides
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: of a coin. It's not her fault because of the men,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: but she did do it. It's her own actions.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Because Elizabeth, could you know, what would she be doing
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: to this day.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: At this day right Like so there is that fine
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: line of where do you go? And I just don't
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: really know how to bring it into words, what what
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I should be saying for that she deserves, she deserves
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: server sentence. But she deserves to get better, That's all
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I know. And I hope she does get better, but
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: it already.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Sounds like she got a little bit better in a
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: very short period of time.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: And I also hope that Elizabeth family can all kind
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: of be at rest with what happened.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: As well, But I don't think that they ever would.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine this is so brutal what happened that
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I just don't think you ever would.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that is the case of Elizabeth Olton, nine
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: years old.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Wow, gonna sleep well tonight. Yeah, it was horrifically brutal
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: to listen to.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I think I'm not going to do a child case
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: for a while because they're starting to get to me.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I just recently did the uh, the Slenderman case, which
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: was another heavy one on me. Yeah, I need to
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: stay clear from the child cases for a bit.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I think there you go. Well, my next one does
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: not involve a child, but it involved animals and a human.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I said the animals first. Both
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: they're brutal, but it's just like I'm such an animal
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: lover and I avoided I actually didn't even know the tip.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I only knew the tip of the iceberg of this case.
• 45:42
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• 45:45
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• 45:55
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• 45:58
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• 45:58
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• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you managed to get through this without being as disturbed
• 46:06
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• 46:10
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