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- 0:00In the middle of what goes into the stomach goes directly. Therefore, eating
- 0:09affects child behavior. Sometimes it' s hard for parents to go. Dindy
- 0:15what he eats and I' ll tell you how he behaves. Maria Luisa,
- 0:18warriors in word authors with pink welcome, welcome, Thank you very much,
- 0:24delighted a pleasure. The truth is that for those of us who have
- 0:27children a little grown up, we miss this kind of help and good,
- 0:35as humanity has to keep growing. Well, welcome to be the connection of
- 0:40the brain to the intestine is more striking than that which, as I would
- 0:47say, when children arrive at snack time, before talking about that connection,
- 0:51we always offer them something showy, something besides that has the shape of their
- 0:56favorite character that is usually pastries and we don' t understand that if you
- 1:00give them what you suppose they like most at the hour and a half,
- 1:03as you well indicate in your book, start with kicks why. Because that
- 1:10' s a glucid bomb, that what it does is that at that moment
- 1:15it calms them, it generates them, it gives them a lot of energy,
- 1:22just like it goes up suddenly it makes peace and it goes down.
- 1:23I mean, the problem is that ultra- processed sugar is synthesized very quickly,
- 1:30that is, digestion is very fast and then, in half an hour
- 1:34that' s all you have left, you' ve already spent it and
- 1:38you' re back at the same point of hunger, and that generates a
- 1:42lot of anxiety. So what happens is that kids are upset by that drop
- 1:46and that anxiety they don' t usually know how to interpret that it'
- 1:52s that they' re hungry and then, if they' re nervous,
- 1:56they' re upset, they' re irritable, then all of a sudden,
- 2:00like they cross, they block and you don' t know what'
- 2:01s going on with them, and neither do they, and then that'
- 2:01s where the trouble starts. So the good thing about this is that if
- 2:05we know, we can prevent it and especially them. It' s very
- 2:09important that you also understand it, because that' s how you learn to
- 2:13self- manage. I now have children who already take their nuts, take
- 2:15their little cheeses and you know that when they start to be a little bit
- 2:20like this, they take a parel, they maintain the energy and, therefore,
- 2:23they don' t have these mood swings that sometimes bring them problems.
- 2:29Yes, as important as food and dinner. It' s breakfast and the
- 2:34measure very important, because to see I think the dinner meal, more or
- 2:36less. We are all clear that they must eat a little of everything,
- 2:39that there must be green, that there must be fruit, that there must
- 2:42be protein and aberi gratos. I think we' re all pretty clear about
- 2:46that. But breakfast at the snack, well we don' t give it
- 2:50that much importance. Then we shake hands. The first thing we get if
- 2:53cookies that without cereals, which is such and clear, we convert that food,
- 2:58which is also very important, just a group of foods, we just
- 3:00give it carbohydrates, we just give it sweet. And then what happens,
- 3:06because it is digested very quickly in the half hour they no longer have anything
- 3:08left. They get into that blucemic peak that gave them ancesieda that I can
- 3:13tell them and that' s where the problems happen, because that if you
- 3:19give them in school, because imagine the time of the yard, then there
- 3:22are problems at the time of the yard, because we are susceptible, we
- 3:25take what they tell us wrong, then montán chickens where there are not and
- 3:30at home, because we have problems if they do not obey or comply,
- 3:34they do not do. And that' s as easy as making a breakfast
- 3:38and a snack that has all the macronutrients. That is to say, we
- 3:44have to add a third of protein, a third of fat, especially fat
- 3:49that we have very demonized and fat is very important for children. You tell
- 3:53them, a third of proteins, a third of fats that we' ll
- 3:57talk about and a third of poreribly whole carbohydrates of good quality. Good quality.
- 4:03However, at breakfast time. Another thing we also tend to do that
- 4:08we go fast. It is a milk mold with very bad cereals, or
- 4:13bad because cereals, which is something that is ultra processed, because it is
- 4:18usually all sugar. If you look at the composition, really cereal, there
- 4:23' s very little and it' s all preserved for them to stay.
- 4:27But that' s where stabilizers carry a lot of things. But of course,
- 4:30that' s not nutritious. I mean, we have to think that
- 4:32carbon duotes are energy. So obviously they need energy, but that doesn'
- 4:38t feed them, it doesn' t nourish them. Then we have to
- 4:42complement that or the proteins and the embers. Be it always has all the
- 4:46meals, it has to be complete and then we have to give them the
- 4:49foods that I call them bricks, which are the ones that serve to grow
- 4:56to connect the brain. Then that' s where we need the fat.
- 4:58What is the best fat we have in Spa, the olive oil to be
- 5:01turned, we must not spare in olive oil and then we have dried fruits.
- 5:05We are also a very rich country. In nuts, in hazelnuts,
- 5:10in almonds, in cashing all these phenomenal. Children eat very little of that,
- 5:14yes, and pumpkin pipes, the routes of all that is very good.
- 5:17That means you have to eat it. And then, then, avocados,
- 5:21which is the new healthy fat, which there is also nothing, are
- 5:25also the products, because we also have to teach them to eat that,
- 5:29because that complements them together with the protein and the hydrate, and gives them
- 5:32a meal that keeps them because then the digestion is slow process and then that
- 5:40helps us to endure until the next collide. You say we can fight sadness,
- 5:46anxiety, apathy and improve the lack of attention by increasing vitamin B one
- 5:49and thiamine. Yes, those vitamins that are found in all these elements that
- 5:57we are saying, that is, in the fruits, it is in the
- 6:01blue fish, that it is not necessary to be salmon, because here we
- 6:06have sardines, jureles, nearby mackerels, anchovies all that we have and that
- 6:14is our fish also carries all this and then, there of course, that
- 6:18fights us all that is the lack of attention, the impulsivity, the anxiety.
- 6:23It helps that we don' t have it all oversized and what is
- 6:29very important is that we set an example, but the children have to explain
- 6:34it. I mean, it' s not about banning food, because if
- 6:39you forbid it what you get the opposite effect, which is that it'
- 6:42s much more desired, then they hide to eat what we forbid them.
- 6:46It' s not about that. It' s about offering them healthy alternatives
- 6:50and having them choose them. I mean, you can tell me againo now
- 6:55we' re going to change the feed post because it' ll help you
- 6:58get better. You have to explain to them they are not fools and understand
- 7:00things. It' s not that if I' m not right for your
- 7:03health right now, well for you to be better. Maybe then, instead
- 7:08of taking this, let' s see if we can take, then,
- 7:12a yogurt with banana and cocoa that gets done very good but healthy things and
- 7:17give them to choose two healthy options that he chooses. One this is called
- 7:23illusion of double alternatives, which is a reverse psychology technique and which helps pass
- 7:28the screen. We' re no longer in whether you eat it or not,
- 7:31but in which of the two you eat. Then there we give them
- 7:35a little bit of the child who thinks he' s deciding, when you
- 7:40' re actually conditioning him. But of course, you have to wear the
- 7:43cap, because in the end, the parents are responsible for all this and
- 7:46we have to direct them to the best, to a real education for real
- 7:53life that they are going to find and a real diet, to try to
- 7:58make it the most real food possible. Our brain has been growing in size
- 8:01as homo has evolved. The intellectually efficient has not stopped growing, but the
- 8:09b face as you say in your book, is that we eat too many
- 8:13ultra- processed foods. We' ve been discovering food then cooking it,
- 8:18but we' ve already reached a goal. I don' t know if
- 8:20a goal to the top, and that stop now is to feed on ultra
- 8:24- processed things, because we' re going to the quick and something easy.
- 8:26Well, because we have little time and I just get it. We
- 8:30really have a lot of time, and in the end, we' ve
- 8:31reached out. But notice that now of course we think. Well, a
- 8:35vegetable burger is better than a cow burger. Well it depends if you make
- 8:39it, but if the pre- fab, well it' s not good
- 8:45either, then good. We have to try to leave as real as possible.
- 8:48And then that happens by spending a little time planning and maybe, because
- 8:54on the weekend, preparing, freezing things, having those ready so that then,
- 8:58at the moment you can get them out quickly, but it' s
- 9:01not hard to make that you have to be aware of how important it is
- 9:07because we have to think that the children now their brain, is growing and
- 9:11it' s the time that you can give them the option of connecting all
- 9:15the neurons, that they have the maximum chance of happening so that they can
- 9:20then use it. And, besides learning that you can be calm all day,
- 9:24that you don' t need to be stressed all day, because children
- 9:28go very impulsively and sometimes we talk about it now. It is also that
- 9:37many alterations are diagnosed, because symptomatology seems so. But we must look at
- 9:45the cause, that is, of course, impulsive children. There are many
- 9:48impulsive children, but more than looking at why it is impulsive, because the
- 9:52first thing is to rule out, that is, if this child feeds badly,
- 9:58will not have a disorder, is that you change the comment and the
- 10:01impossibility is over. So I think there' s an overdiagnosis of disorders,
- 10:07because in the medical records you don' t look, no, you don
- 10:09' t take into account how they sleep, how they eat, how they
- 10:13feed. Which is what we have incorporated for twenty years now into our anamnesis,
- 10:18because we have realized that this is the basis then, if the child
- 10:22feeds well, sleeps well and still has the impossibility, then we can enter
- 10:26into another type of diagnosis. But first we have to rule this out.
- 10:33Srnotonin and documina are very important. This is clear. The most important thing
- 10:37of all is that ninety percent of these hormones, which are those that regulate
- 10:39the mood, the well- being, the feeling of well- being,
- 10:43the feeling of joy, the energies are sliced into the intestine. That'
- 10:48s why it' s important. It' s gut connection, brain,
- 10:52emotion, because that' s where you' re going. Not then clear
- 10:56if you have the intestine irritated, irritable because you are eating things that you
- 11:01cannot absorb and that are left there wrong. That obviously limits the production of
- 11:07both tonin and dopamine, and then we are low- level. I'
- 11:11ve had a case of a girl with this subject now, of a ten
- 11:16- year- old girl who, well, in the family decided to become
- 11:24vegan all yes and then, well, because the kids are also worth it.
- 11:26And then they gave the school a note that at school too, or
- 11:28because this school in Boreto wasn' t ready to give it a full vegan
- 11:33menu. Such then what happened. Esaña began to have deficits of vitamins,
- 11:39minerals, everything, because they did it without any medical control or anything.
- 11:46And then, of course, I got this little girl because she' s
- 11:48depressed, she' s crying all day. We don' t know what
- 11:50' s wrong with him. So, well, also that they were already
- 11:52bullying, which is such and what was wrong with him. The girl was
- 11:56fine with her friends, but well she was crying all day. Let'
- 12:00s give him analytics that eat that. Then I started to get in there
- 12:03and clearly I had the analytics was tremendous, I mean, I had no
- 12:07iron, I had no end, I had no maimem, but and that
- 12:11causes in the descent of the mood, that is, what is super related.
- 12:15We also demonize red meats, of course, but red meat is what
- 12:18carries more iron, more plastic protein. So, I mean, I don
- 12:26' t think you can demonize the big red one. You have to eat
- 12:28it to the right extent. Like everything, I mean, all the extremes
- 12:31are bad if we get past each other. You have to eat the children
- 12:35have to eat everything. And children need to eat different than us and in
- 12:41more quantity than us, because they have a lot of caloric expense is much
- 12:46higher, they are the St Anthocians. Okay wait And this and I was
- 12:52telling you that with the issue of meat, and this of course, if
- 12:58you supplement, many people say good, no, but I supplement them with
- 13:03pharmacy supplements, zinc supplements, meek supplements, such care. With this,
- 13:07because supplements are not absorbed, only fifteen percent are absorbed. Then, of
- 13:13course, you can be very calm that I' m supplementing and it'
- 13:16s no use to me. No. Then you always have to keep an
- 13:20eye on everything and also more unless. I' m not sorry I'
- 13:24m gone, not at all. You have to tell that. Yeah,
- 13:26yeah, yeah, we were talking about the Anthocians. Yes, well,
- 13:31I mean, all these different compounds of the feed are essential for the microbiota
- 13:39to stay stable. So this is in different vegetable foods and it goes a
- 13:46little by colors, not depending on the color of the vegetable has more or
- 13:52less cravings. No, then we have to eat. I mean. The
- 13:56problem we have is that children don' t like vegetables very much and we
- 13:58always eat the same to others eat broccoli, not very well, but we
- 14:03have to eat red pepper too, we have to eat drinking jena, because
- 14:07all those who have more colors have more anthocyans, which are antioxidants that help
- 14:13protect neural connections. Then it is important that we also feed ourselves by colors,
- 14:18because in addition, children also get more into their eyes. Then you
- 14:22have to But of course, what is very important is that we give.
- 14:26Example, it can' t be that we eat, we' re there
- 14:30making the appetizer of Swiss words, I don' t know what, and
- 14:33we give the kids. We have to try to eat everything. Since magnesium
- 14:37is essential, because it is the one that helps. It' s a
- 14:46brick food that I say, it' s one of the foods that configure
- 14:52a little bit the entire stability of the system, that is, it helps
- 14:56the growth, it helps the nerves, it helps the secretion of hormones,
- 15:01that the body is like a precision clock that goes all super timed and that
- 15:05it lacks something we get somewhere. So, of course, magnesium is another
- 15:11one of the super important minerals that are in elements that children eat little,
- 15:16such as nuts, blue fishing, leaves, spinach, for example, raw
- 15:20spinach that children in general, this eat little and is very important, especially
- 15:26because to maintain attention, concentration, to avoid anxiety. And then we have
- 15:33to try to put it in easy way, because I know that a child
- 15:39eats nuts, they don' t feel like it or they are difficult to
- 15:46eat good, because we do what we do, we take, we have
- 15:50nuts, we crush them and we make a cake with the nuts and it
- 15:52gives great, for example, like we make cookies. And this is very
- 15:54easy to say that it' s just replacing one baby with another to mix
- 16:00it and you' re already putting a hundred grams of nuts on the kid
- 16:03who hasn' t noticed and is eating the sugar. We described them for
- 16:04a banana they don' t know either. And there banana, for example,
- 16:07is a food that has a lot of magnesium, it goes very well
- 16:12also helps to sleep regulates them. It is a fundamental food that sometimes costs
- 16:18children to eat. Then we have to invent the way to do it,
- 16:22to do it, to eat more beautiful, more camouflaged. Yes, as
- 16:26you say, give an example that we clearly don' t understand and that
- 16:32they get involved in this. I mean, if, for example, you
- 16:33say go, we' re going to make some cookies that is very easy,
- 16:36that is critures, carrots, there are nuts, a banana chafadito and
- 16:41four chocolate chips, you make some pastries. So the kid stems and you
- 16:45put them in the oven you already have the cookies is that it' s
- 16:48super easy and you look like chips of those chips a hoit that call it,
- 16:52because it looks like one of those and they are really good and super
- 16:56healthy. And the kid' s eating banana nuts and black chocolate. So
- 17:00that the boy gets involved and as he has, then if he eats it
- 17:04exactly, I' m going to go back to this example that you'
- 17:07ve given me of this girl because now there' s a lot of tendency
- 17:15to be vegan because we demonize too many foods, because suddenly we want to
- 17:18protect the animals. Leave it there, how you convince those parents that the
- 17:25food that that child is getting is not good. I know that the moment
- 17:26you get sick or have a symptomatology, you' re already afraid, but
- 17:33I think I think it' s not that bad, because then we go
- 17:37back to the example. If anyone is if that child has to eat everything
- 17:40on a Mediterranean diet that is very good, you are not setting an example.
- 17:44Nor does it remain an exact desire to see the problem with the subject.
- 17:48This is that of course. I think they' re two different things.
- 17:52One thing is a moral concept that is mixed with food. Then it
- 17:56' s complicated. But what is very clear is that there are no long
- 18:00- term scientific studies, because this is happening now and we do not have
- 18:06the perspective of the time to know what happens to children who have fed in
- 18:10this way over time. Then we don' t know what. Then it
- 18:15' s a risk. I think it is a risk that can impact everything,
- 18:22because, of course, we have to think that the child is growing,
- 18:25his brain, his organs are forming, then the deficit of certain minerals
- 18:29is forming, because although it is what we have said, it is not
- 18:32absorbed, because it is important. Then, of course, it' s
- 18:40a decision that I don' t know if it would be better to wait
- 18:44for the child to be older and when he' s 20, because the
- 18:45child decides to be summer. Well, that' s the exact responsibility,
- 18:48because if not you, as a parent, you' re taking responsibility,
- 18:52you don' t know what impact it' s going to have, especially
- 18:56because there are no scientific studies that tell you. Yes, well, we
- 18:56don' t know that clearly when you don' t want to eat and
- 19:02then you tend to start this conversation, which was I' m going to
- 19:06give you the most incentive because we tend to that clearly. Well, because
- 19:07the fear we have is always my boy. He doesn' t eat me,
- 19:11my boy has to eat, no, because if he doesn' t
- 19:14eat, I' m already a bad mother and that' s fine.
- 19:15So here what we have to be very clear about is that the children.
- 19:18There are children who are indefatigating and children who are pimps. Then a point
- 19:22number one. If the child follows the curve and grows and the tedium tells
- 19:26you that it is growing, although it seems to you that as little as
- 19:29it is eating enough to grow. That' s the first thing we have
- 19:33to have to calm down and second we have to use different reverse psychology techniques
- 19:41to seduce the child to eat little more then the usual. If you force
- 19:45him to eat an immense plate of macarron it' s that the child visually
- 19:49sees him and says uh I won' t be able to. That'
- 19:52s where we' re going. Then inappetizing children usually work better a combined
- 19:56dish. Then you put a big plate on it and you only put two
- 20:03little rocks, a little tomatillo and three peas on it. Okay and it
- 20:10seems that there is very little because dish is very big and then it will
- 20:14come a small piece of this very playful, very much so that it runs
- 20:17out fast, that ay how good that great. We' ve gone too
- 20:18far. It' s got to be a playful, easy time, and
- 20:22I' m not going to visually say ufff, I' m not going
- 20:26to be able to do this, even if it' s a little bit.
- 20:26So that way we go like teaching him that eating is fast, it
- 20:30' s easy. We mean, we can' t have him punished for
- 20:33two hours until you finish it because that' s what you generate that the
- 20:37kid gets craze at the food, of course, and we want the opposite,
- 20:40then you have to seduce, you have to put nice things in nice
- 20:44colors, use the colors big plates, little amount, but in reality,
- 20:48it' s the same as if you put the little trick deal on him
- 20:52so that the kid gets the feeling that today I finished it fast, it
- 20:56didn' t cost me. I' ve had a good time and so
- 21:00I don' t associate buff a negative moment with food, because food has
- 21:03the problem that it turns into emotional blackmail if they find out that you suffer
- 21:10because I don' t, as you' re doing in blackmail with this,
- 21:12and that you have to keep an eye on it, because everything we
- 21:15' re talking about now, I' m going to go back to the
- 21:18food that we had menus. Our mothers gave that there was a snack to
- 21:22meditate on. I used to play chocolate once, but the rest was stuff.
- 21:27I think you' re healthier. There was a lot more variety.
- 21:30The Mediterranean diet. I think it' s not as complex as it seems
- 21:36when we talk about magnesium of me do a series of things. You'
- 21:38re just eating no one on your way. Of course good, because it
- 21:42is to snack the sandwich, because a tuna sandwich, a little half ham,
- 21:47because I cheese with a good squirt of oil. Even now we were
- 21:52talking about how you can make a cheese cream paste, which you can do
- 21:57for the cream is boil the milk lemon juice, cut it filter and then
- 22:02mix it with tuna. You mix it with it and it' s really
- 22:07good. You can mix it with mussels. You make a pasta and it
- 22:11looks great, and that kids eat it very well, I mean, it
- 22:14' s having a little bit of itchy to make it easy for them and
- 22:22then try to eat real food as real as possible that' s okay.
- 22:26One day, make him a chocolate bread and you can make him even the
- 22:30chocolate paste we all know that ends. Vella more then phenomenal cocoa, hazelnuts,
- 22:37you take, vilans, shreds. Instead of sugar, you put a
- 22:40banana or a date and the whole milk and that' s great. You
- 22:44make that dough, you plug it in the man and the kid' s
- 22:45feeding phenomenal. The title is super recurring. I mean, how many head
- 22:52wires do you have when the kid sees his gut. Besides that pain,
- 22:56sometimes it' s just psychological. Yeah, because you' re at school,
- 23:00but it' s true that that' s managed what we were saying
- 23:03at the beginning, brain and intestine. And I go back to this example.
- 23:07I take advantage of it because I imagine that many headaches when it comes
- 23:12to locating, because a pain is focused on a certain part. But of
- 23:18course because the body, in the end, is the one that warns us
- 23:22when something is not working. So when a child has pains that don'
- 23:26t have a biological origin, my gut hurts. I don' t know
- 23:30such a thing, for it may be because something is happening to him,
- 23:34but we must always rule out that he is not eating properly, because he
- 23:40is eating in hiding, things he cannot, because there are many children who
- 23:45when they are forbidden, then as hidden. But those are symptoms. It
- 23:48' s like the tip of the iceberg of something that' s happening,
- 23:52that is, we' re not separated, that is, the person doesn
- 23:56' t go on one side, the body on the other, we'
- 23:59re a whole together. When something doesn' t work, it affects the
- 24:02other side, that is, when you' re sad, you don'
- 24:03t feel like eating. When you eat badly, you' re sad.
- 24:07It is so and the living of the Romans said it less healthy in corpore
- 24:11healthy already came, that is to say many years ago. Then we have
- 24:18to understand that that affects us, but imagine a child, the child affects
- 24:22him much more. Then when the child is hungry, he is unbearable.
- 24:26When a child hasn' t eaten well. You say yes to snack some
- 24:30potatoes and I do not know what, of course, in two minutes the
- 24:32child is climbing up the walls or, for example, when suddenly, because
- 24:37he takes a chocolate heist. Not only that, I' ve already eaten
- 24:41a tablet, because the child is as if you' ve given him batteries
- 24:45and there' s no one to stop it no, then of course this
- 24:49is important that we have him wait for us, but it' s also
- 24:52important that the children know it. I mean, when a kid' s
- 24:53like this and you finally say he' s eaten the chocolate. And as
- 24:56long as you' re going to say affections, you' re very nervous
- 25:00because you' ve done eight for hello. What makes you this effect,
- 25:02because they also have to learn to self- manage and self- control and
- 25:07when they know it, because many times they come to you saying that I
- 25:11don' t know why this happens to me is that I don' t
- 25:12know why. Suddenly I get angry that I don' t know why.
- 25:15Such and when we' re going to find the thread, they relax very
- 25:19much, they say ah. So I' m not bad ah, then
- 25:22I don' t behave bad ah. It' s just that I'
- 25:26ve eaten bad ah, of course, and then they themselves say ah,
- 25:30because I' m gonna take three times to tie up or take a little
- 25:32cheese, or I' m gonna take an" E," because I
- 25:36know that when this happens to me, if I take the cheese, I
- 25:36don' t get in a bad mood anymore. Then of course I really
- 25:38have, this I have seen in many children and really the happy face that
- 25:44you see them when they understand what happens to them, why it happens to
- 25:48them and they know how to control it. It' s wonderful, so
- 25:51tell me what they eat and I' ll tell you how a pleasure is
- 25:52formed that it is. Thank you so much in the fight like this trying
- 26:02to stop for tempo