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Donica Lewinsky and the Epstein Emails · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Wait trance true, I'm a checkup. Hey everybody, welcome to
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  Speaker 1: Conspiracy The Show. I'm your host, Stadam Todd Brown joining
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  Speaker 1: me as co host this week Connor mcs Badness here.
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  Speaker 1: How's it going, man?
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  Speaker 2: Wow, you know it's a good day and it's not
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  Speaker 2: every day you get twenty thousand Jeffrey Epstein emails.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is Jeffrey Epstein email week in the United States.
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  Speaker 2: I thought we were out of Jeffrey Epstein. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: think any more Jeffrey Epstein content from the source was
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  Speaker 2: going to come out.
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  Speaker 3: They found another Tupac album.
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  Speaker 1: Seems like now we're to get all of it.
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  Speaker 3: Also, now it's.
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  Speaker 2: Going to be like Tupac, where it's going to be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't really a drop like the old dog to
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  Speaker 2: drops back of the old days used to be.
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  Speaker 3: That was just a little sprinkling. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein put out more files after he died than he
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  Speaker 1: did when he was live.
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  Speaker 3: Well, then how come he's talking about shit that we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about right now?
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  Speaker 1: Man, So we're talking about the Epstein emails and what's
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  Speaker 1: in them. And yes, as the title of the episode implies,
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  Speaker 1: of course we're going to talk about the rumor that
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump blew Bill Clinton at some point. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's true. I think they're talking about a different bubba.
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  Speaker 1: But there is a picture of Donald Trump literally grabbing
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  Speaker 1: Bill Clinton's dick that has just now started going around.
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  Speaker 1: Who was sitting on that all this time? Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: just hated money. That's like a bar of gold or something.
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  Speaker 1: That's a very fungible picture.
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  Speaker 3: You have.
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  Speaker 1: You got Trump grabbing Clinton by the man pussy, and
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  Speaker 1: not a single person thought we wanted to see that
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  Speaker 1: video until now. It's crazy. Drop that before twenty sixteen
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  Speaker 1: and see if he wins, he probably still would have.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So on November twelfth, twenty twenty five, the House Oversite
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  Speaker 1: Committee released just a metric shit ton of emails between
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and his cavalcade of associates. Lots of names
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  Speaker 1: in these lots of names. Some look better than others.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's no good look being in the Epstein files.
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  Speaker 1: But some of these people, like Larry Sellers, he was
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  Speaker 1: awfully close to Jeffrey Epstein and that's not not suspicious.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll get to it. This is a quote from
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  Speaker 1: ranking member Robert Garcia about the release of these emails
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  Speaker 1: because this was released by the House Oversight Committee. The
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  Speaker 1: more Donald Trump tries to cover up the Epstein files,
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  Speaker 1: the more we uncover. These latest emails and correspondences raise
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  Speaker 1: glaring questions about what else the White House is high
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  Speaker 1: and the nature of the relationship between Epstein and the President.
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  Speaker 1: The Department of Justice must fully release the Epstein files
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  Speaker 1: to the public immediately. The Oversight Committee will continue pushing
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  Speaker 1: for answers and will not stop until we get justice
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  Speaker 1: for the victims. End quote. As long as no Democrats
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  Speaker 1: go down. I tag that on at the end. And
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  Speaker 1: in this initial announcement of the release, they included three
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  Speaker 1: I would say highly salacious emails that all referenced Trump.
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  Speaker 1: In one of them Epstein emails Julane Maxwell, who it
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  Speaker 1: turns out he called g Max, which is such a
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  Speaker 1: great nickname. Yeah, that's pretty good, and he said this,
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  Speaker 1: I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't
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  Speaker 1: barked as Trump victim that parts were dacted, spent hours
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  Speaker 1: at my house with him. He has never once been
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  Speaker 1: mentioned police chief, et cetera. I'm seventy five percent there
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  Speaker 1: end quote. One thing about these emails, Jeffrey Epstein had
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  Speaker 1: the punctuation and capitalization skills of a three year old housecat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was afraid of spelling, very clearly defines fear
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  Speaker 2: of spelling.
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  Speaker 1: And me and you have talked about this in relation
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  Speaker 1: to like songs on an iPod or texting. Also, I
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  Speaker 1: can't not do proper punctuation in capitalization. So even when
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  Speaker 1: I was taking these notes, a lot of these Epstein emails,
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  Speaker 1: I just cleaned up for nobody's benefit but my own
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  Speaker 1: sanity when I'm reading these notes, So I might be
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  Speaker 1: paraphrasing some of these because I'm not talking like a
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  Speaker 1: fucking brain damage baboon. If Jeffrey Epstein did.
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  Speaker 3: Come Island with rich friends, rape children question mark, it.
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  Speaker 1: Is shit like that. He doesn't ever explicitly say rape children,
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  Speaker 1: but otherwise dead on. This man had no time to talk.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed like, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I want to point on the email address. This
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  Speaker 2: is jee vacation moves next to you in there, This
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  Speaker 2: is his vacation email. This isn't even the business email.
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  Speaker 1: Does he think email only works in the location where
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  Speaker 1: you first set it up because you don't need a
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  Speaker 1: separate vacation email.
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  Speaker 3: I imagine Jeffrey Epstein took a lot of vacations.
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  Speaker 2: If there was a guy that needed a separate email
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  Speaker 2: just for taking vacations, it would be a guy who
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  Speaker 2: that's six fucking reserve properties, Right.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. How would you know which one to email him?
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  Speaker 3: Att?
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  Speaker 1: I wonder It just bounces back and he says he
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  Speaker 1: used the vacation email.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just people like to give you the
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  Speaker 2: run arounds. I'm sure knowing more than old jee.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I remember I tried to book Damon Wayans on the
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  Speaker 1: podcast once and he was like, email the person at
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  Speaker 1: this address, and it was clearly some burner email address
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  Speaker 1: that no one was ever going to fucking respond to.
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  Speaker 1: So there's another email between Epstein and a guy named
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  Speaker 1: Michael Wolfe, who is a writer that Epstein had reached
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  Speaker 1: out to about writing a book about him.
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  Speaker 3: It's a tough ghostwriting assignment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the ego of that man to be like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fresh off of getting out of jail. Hey, Michael
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  Speaker 1: wolf you want to write a book about me? I
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  Speaker 1: bet it'll be really interesting. I would just disappear forever
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  Speaker 1: if I had that much money and just beat that
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  Speaker 1: kind of criminal charge.
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  Speaker 2: And I had my own email adgists already set up
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  Speaker 2: for long vacations from the public eye.
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  Speaker 1: So in this email, it starts with victim that parts
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  Speaker 1: were acted mar A Lago identify her. So he said
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  Speaker 1: something that would identify who this person was. Trump said,
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  Speaker 1: he asked me to resign, never a member. Ever, of
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  Speaker 1: course he knew about the girls. He asked Jelaine to stop.
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  Speaker 1: End quote. What do we think about that email? Because
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  Speaker 1: on the one hand, he's saying Trump knew about the girls,
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  Speaker 1: but he's also saying Trump asked Jelaine to stop. Ask
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  Speaker 1: Jelaine to stop? What?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, very interesting without the context.
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  Speaker 1: Because Trump has said Epstein was stealing women from mar
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  Speaker 1: A Lago. We know Virginia Jeffrey, whose name I've been
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  Speaker 1: saying incorrectly for about three years now. I believe she
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  Speaker 1: worked at mar A Lago and that's where Epstein found her.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, maybe Trump's telling the truth on that
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  Speaker 1: one little count there. Maybe he was like, hey, can
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  Speaker 1: you stop sex trafficking my employees. I can't envision a
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  Speaker 1: world where Trump would actually care about that, yeah, Or I.
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  Speaker 2: Think it would be more like, could you give me
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  Speaker 2: credit slash amy for yeah, trav get my sort of
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  Speaker 2: a finder's kiever's clause. He's trying to evoke, Yeah, a
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  Speaker 2: finder's fee something like that at least. Then there's a third.
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  Speaker 1: Exchange between Epstein and Wolf, and these are all in
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  Speaker 1: the initial release from the House Oversight Committee. They put
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  Speaker 1: these three emails in their announcement.
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  Speaker 3: These are the three singles.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is kind of a back and forth. In
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  Speaker 1: this third exchange, Epstein and Michael Wolf are talking about Trump,
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  Speaker 1: who is planning to appear on CNN that night, and
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  Speaker 1: starts with Michael Wolf. He says, I hear CNN planning
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  Speaker 1: to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you, either
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  Speaker 1: on air or in scrum afterwards, where they going to
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  Speaker 1: beat the shit out of Trump after they got done
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  Speaker 1: interviewing him. What was happening there scrum?
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  Speaker 2: I think is just like all the people like, sir, sir,
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  Speaker 2: what do you think about my buttthole?
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  Speaker 3: Sir? You know that's what I assumed it was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Epstein, if we were able to craft an answer
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  Speaker 1: for him, what do you think it should be? Wolf?
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  Speaker 1: I think you should let him hang himself. If he
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  Speaker 1: says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house,
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  Speaker 1: then that gives you valuable pr and political currency. You
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  Speaker 1: can hang him in a way that potentially generates a
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  Speaker 1: positive benefit for you, or if it really looks like
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  Speaker 1: he could win, you could save him generating a debt.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, it is possible that when asked, he'll say
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey is a great guy and has gotten a raw
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  Speaker 1: deal and is a victim of polytical correctness, which is
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  Speaker 1: to be outlawed in a Trump regime. End quote. So
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  Speaker 1: that email is pretty fucking incriminating. I would say, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is also just funny for some of the
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  Speaker 2: due Machiavelli's the prints in twenty seconds. You can fuck
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  Speaker 2: them if it makes you look good, or if it
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  Speaker 2: gives you something that's you can fuck somebody else over.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to fuck over two people at once,
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  Speaker 2: you know, not get anything out of that. You got
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  Speaker 2: to fuck one over at the supposed to behest of
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  Speaker 2: the He had just laid out being evil in politics
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  Speaker 2: in like three and a half sentence.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's like he asked chat GPT how to blackmail
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  Speaker 1: someone for sex crimes? Yeah, also very fun. Side note
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  Speaker 1: Michael Wohl, I think I've mentioned it on this pod,
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  Speaker 1: but I mentioned on the Monday Show a few weeks
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  Speaker 1: ago that there's this video going around where this guy
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  Speaker 1: is like, I've seen the pictures of Trump with the girls.
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein put him on a desk in front of me,
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  Speaker 1: laid them out, and it's Trump with all of these
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  Speaker 1: girls who appear to be very underage, sitting on his lap, topless.
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  Speaker 1: And when I mentioned it on the Monday Show, I
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  Speaker 1: was just kind of freestyling, so I couldn't remember all
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  Speaker 1: the details. Michael Wolfe is the guy in that video.
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  Speaker 1: Michael wolf is the one who says he's seen the
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  Speaker 1: pictures of Trump with Epstein.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 1: And now here's Michael Wolfe advising Epstein on essentially how
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  Speaker 1: to blackmail Trump with the info he has on him.
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  Speaker 1: So that's not nothing. People go to prison for circumstantial
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  Speaker 1: evidence all the time. So we'll link to the database
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  Speaker 1: of all these emails. It's a couple outlets out there
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  Speaker 1: have put together a searchable database. I don't think anyone
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  Speaker 1: has gotten through all of these files yet. They are
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  Speaker 1: days old. It's four days ago as we record this.
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  Speaker 2: I do like that they pulled a few bits to
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  Speaker 2: be like there's some good shit in here, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like just check out a selection of our Michael Wolfe females.
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  Speaker 1: And it should once again be a little alarming to
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  Speaker 1: Trump voters that even without having gone through all of
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  Speaker 1: these files, they've still just doing basic preliminary research. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of shit involving Trump that's turned up already. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, swish it around in your head. I
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  Speaker 1: guess just on the vacation email. Yeah, just the vacation email, which, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the other you like that.
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  Speaker 3: Song vacase shit? Maybe he was always taking him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I saw the Go Gos and concert when I was
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  Speaker 1: a kid, fucking prime Go Gos.
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  Speaker 3: It was nice. How was that?
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  Speaker 1: It was amazing? Like early eighties.
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  Speaker 2: I could just see Jeff getting the massage. She got
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  Speaker 2: massages every single day, as you might have heard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that man loved a fucking massage and a vacation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you a massage guy.
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  Speaker 3: They're cool. I don't exactly get them regularly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had a weird neck issue once and I
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  Speaker 1: had to get a professional massage at a doctor's office,
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  Speaker 1: and not my thing.
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  Speaker 3: Professional massage doesn't sound too fun, non Son for your
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  Speaker 3: professional massage, So I guess it sounds like a hand
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  Speaker 3: job now that I think about it.
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  Speaker 1: She asked me my pressure preference, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: it was my first fucking massage. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, Hi, I guess it turns out I am
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  Speaker 1: not a high pressure guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that shit hurt same.
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  Speaker 1: And she was listening to this pan flute music and
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  Speaker 1: then just changed it in the middle. What was I
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  Speaker 1: doing that made you think, Oh, this guy's not into
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  Speaker 1: fue Yeah, put some menu on straight in this situation out.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, Jeffrey Epstein massages on the regular. He was
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  Speaker 1: getting them. If he went to his house, he was
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  Speaker 1: gonna be like, you want a massage?
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  Speaker 3: Dog?
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  Speaker 1: Which that also if I went to Connor's house right
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  Speaker 1: now and he just had a bevy of women dishing
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  Speaker 1: out massages, I would think it was pretty cool. But
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  Speaker 1: I'd also probably just have questions. Yeah, I'd probably just
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  Speaker 1: get the fuck out of there until I could get
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  Speaker 1: more information about what was going on, because that's not
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  Speaker 1: normal friend shit. You don't just show up at someone's
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  Speaker 1: house and they're like, hey, I got a massage, lady,
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  Speaker 1: you need one?
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  Speaker 3: You know that.
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  Speaker 2: I had a friend that would actually do exactly that
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  Speaker 2: would hire a guy for massage, like, hey, you anyone
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  Speaker 2: else want to go in on it. But I always said,
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  Speaker 2: if this person, Jeffrey Epstein would love her, That's what
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  Speaker 2: I always said about her. So I guess only the
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  Speaker 2: people in that category, people that take vacations eleven months a.
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  Speaker 1: Year, must be fucking nice. So I just mentioned there's
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  Speaker 1: some other Trump emails that have surfaced since the House
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  Speaker 1: Oversight Committee first put this out. Case in point, prior
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  Speaker 1: to Trump's twenty eighteen meeting with Putin in Helsinki, Epstein
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  Speaker 1: reached out to one of Russia's top diplomats at the
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  Speaker 1: time to let them know that if Russia wanted to
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  Speaker 1: understand Trump, they should talk to him. There's lots of
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  Speaker 1: that in here, where it's not so much Trump being
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  Speaker 1: accused of anything. It's just Epstein being like, hey, I
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  Speaker 1: hear you're meeting with Trump.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you about Trump, which just imagine you're
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. You are arguably one of the worst people
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  Speaker 1: to ever walk the earth, and your opinion of Trump
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  Speaker 1: is that he is the worst person you've ever met.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good point in ever siding. When you break
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  Speaker 3: it down like that.
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  Speaker 1: That is terrifying. That's like Ted Bundy calling you a
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  Speaker 1: misogynist that is out of control, bad, and there's lots
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  Speaker 1: of that in here. There is lots of Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: being like, I know how dirty Trump is, I know
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck he's up to, so much of it,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like the pushback. I know, I've seen
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  Speaker 1: at least some pushback online where MAGA types are like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was just Jeffrey Epstein trying to plant evidence to
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  Speaker 1: get Trump. That is a long con for.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, very thorough.
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  Speaker 1: These are emails from before Trump in some cases was
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  Speaker 1: even considering running for president, and even then, Jeffrey Epstein's
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  Speaker 1: like not a shred of good in that guy, just the.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, Jeffrey Epstein is going after your
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  Speaker 2: moral character because like when you're saying, imagine your Jeffrey Epstein,
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  Speaker 2: I sitting there like going okay, and you're like, now
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  Speaker 2: you're the arguably one of the worst people that ever lived.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, going to Hitler, Hitler, Gurbels, rob Old, come,
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  Speaker 3: what the fuck worst.
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  Speaker 2: There's a conversation you have with yourself about you know,
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  Speaker 2: moral relativism, and you're like, I'm not as bad as
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  Speaker 2: Alan Dershowitz or whatever the fuck but to just be like,
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  Speaker 2: this guy is irrefutably beyond question scum fucking shit piss.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine hearing that and being like, I'd still vote for him.
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  Speaker 2: It's fine, it's taxis man. I do wonder if he
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  Speaker 2: comes back from this. I don't usually doubt teflon Don,
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  Speaker 2: but this one is. If they're actually gonna be dumping
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  Speaker 2: twenty thousand emails, I bet there's some bad shit in
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  Speaker 2: there for you know, I know there's some bad shit
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  Speaker 2: in there for him.
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  Speaker 1: I almost wonder if at this point Republicans maybe sort
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  Speaker 1: of secretly want to cut ties with Trump because he's
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  Speaker 1: not doing a great job. If I'm being completely honest.
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  Speaker 2: His weird, random old guy hang ups like tariffs are
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  Speaker 2: good have been given way too much seriousness. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: just screwed up the economy.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's pretty clear from this last round
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  Speaker 1: of elections Trump is a liability at this point. No
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  Speaker 1: one wants to vote for his bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: And some of the DNC loves him because he's great.
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  Speaker 2: The fundraise against you can scare the shit out of
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  Speaker 2: people with the thought of Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem is they do it and then don't
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  Speaker 1: say anything else. There's no Oh, but here's what we'll
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  Speaker 1: do instead.
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  Speaker 3: There's no vision. Yeah, yeah, it's just and then will
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  Speaker 3: be not that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you were already not that and that was also
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  Speaker 1: not good. So we need a little more than that.
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  Speaker 1: But instead we'll get Gavin Newsom. In twenty twenty eight,
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  Speaker 1: Epstein also had some thoughts on Trump's meeting with Putin
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  Speaker 1: after it happened. In an exchange with former Clinton and
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  Speaker 1: Obama cabinet member Larry Summers. He said this, which, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, Larry Summers, before this all came out, was
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  Speaker 1: in the process of being the architect of the Democrats
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: version of Project twenty twenty five. I forget exactly what
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  Speaker 1: they call it, but they have a Project something twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty nine.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure it's really lame whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure. And he was going to be
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  Speaker 1: in on the ground floor of that, and it seems
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  Speaker 1: like maybe he's not going to be the guy to
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  Speaker 1: write that anymore. This is an email Epstein sent to
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  Speaker 1: Larry Summers about Trump's meeting with Putin. I'm sure his
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  Speaker 1: view is that it went super well. He thinks he
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: has charmed his adversary. Admittedly, he has no idea of
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: the symbolism. He has no idea of most things. End quote.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Ouch, it sounds like an insult from the Bible. He
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: has no idea of those things, and it sounds anciently condescending.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a few different emails where leaders from
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: countries like Saudi Arabia reach out directly to Epstein for
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the same reason, just to understand Trump better. And that's
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: not particular incriminating aside from speaking to how well those
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: two knew each other. But it does get worse. In
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: an email to a woman named Catherine Rumler, a lawyer
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: who served under Obama and is currently chief legal Officer
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: and general counsel at Goldman Sachs, she emailed him an
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: article about Michael Cohen pleading guilty and what it meant
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: for Trump. Epstein replied, you see, I know how dirty
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Donald is. My guess is that non lawyers New York
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: biz people have no idea what it means to have
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: your fixer flip end quote. So that's another example of
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Epstein being like Trump is gross. Sure, I sex traffic kids,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: but I'm not Trump.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: At least he sex traffics young teenagers. Adam, he's in
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: a fever file that's right, a pedophile. We're not here
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: to disparage the man. Let's get it right.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I love that people are calling her Megan R. Kelly.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Now after that, Yeah, it is a bad sign if
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: you Dick Cheney, your scooter Libby flips on you, you know.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're supposed to be my goon t to the end.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: You're supposed to be my guy.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: In another email, and unidentified sender wrote an email to
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Epstein saying Democrats are lying to take down Trump for
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: some unspecified cause. It doesn't really say, and Epstein replied, yes, thanks,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: it's wild because I am the one able to take
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: him down.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: And then he put on his sunglasses.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking buildings start exploding behind him while he walks
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: in slow motion to get a fucking massage.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to go book another vacation.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: And I don't know these emails. These are closer to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: when Trump was actually in office, obviously because of the
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Michael Cohen thing. So Jeffrey Epstein says all this in
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: his emails, and then he gets arrested again and then
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: dies in jail. Nothing to see here, folks.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: After a bad mental health day, shouts out.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, talk to your friends everybody reach out like Adam,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: we're calling him the one of the worst people that
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: ever lived. Yeah, that's really my fault. Honestly, it's this
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: podcast fault that Epstein tragically committed suicide some cyberbullying. Yeah,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: definitely what happened. The cyber bullying was so bad he
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: didn't even have a phone. It was a word of
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: mouth just got through. Have you ever heard anything about
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: how Evanna Trump died?
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: No, not particularly.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I did not know this. She died from a fall
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: down the stairs with blunt force trauma to her torso.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Oh sounds above board.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: And I have heard that she was supposed to testify
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: against Trump or something like immediately prior to that. But
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: nothing to see here, folks. It's just our president. You
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: wouldn't get elected if you were that bad of a dude,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, well that's why we have the Electoral College, Adham. Yeah,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the guardrails would hold.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: They could step in and fix it. Yeah.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: In a different email to Larry Sanders.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: That would be great if they knew each other.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: A different email to Larry Sellers.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: That'd be good because that means every person that he
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: interacts with is actually their fictional version from the Larry
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Sanders Show. So it wasn't the real Chris Tucker on
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: that fucking jet.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: It was the guy from rush Hour was on that jet.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: So, in a different email to Larry Sellers, Epstein said
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: this about Trump. Recall, I've told you I have met
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: some very bad people, none as bad as Trump, not
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: one decent sell in his body. So yes, dangerous end quote.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Damn again, that is the worst person in the world.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, all you've talked about it already, All things considered,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: there are worse people. But he's up there and he's like,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Trump is scary.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is kind of incredible that he gets Jeffrey
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Epstein to get poetic about how evil he is.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Evil.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: He's not just evil, he's super evil. He gets he
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: goes on this fucking old tirade. Yeah, every time he
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: needs to evoke, how you know, Donald Trump's character turns
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: it into a monologue.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: But the craziest emails, I think, at least among these
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: early ones that have come out, are the exchanges between
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and a New York Times reporter named Landon
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Thomas Junior. It starts with Thomas emailing Epstein about an
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: article he wrote about Epstein in two thousand and two,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: where Trump is quoted as saying Epstein is a terrific
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: guy who quote likes beautiful women as much as I do,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and many of them are on the younger side.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: End quote. God, what a great country.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I don't care what fucking year it is. Why would
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: you say that in a goddamn interview. I mean, two
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: thousand and two. I guess it was a different time,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: but not that different.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we still had pedophiles. I mean, I remember the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: church got in trouble and everything.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I think public opinion had turned pretty hard against pedophilia.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: By this point.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: There was a bunch of pro Michael Jackson jokes going
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: around the schoolyard. I grew up on.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so he follows it up. He says, now
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: everyone is coming to me thinking I have juicy info
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: on you and Trump because of this, And at first
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Epstein replies and suggests Thomas should look into Trump's finances,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: but then pivots and says, quote, would you like photos
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: of Donald and girls in bikinis in my kitchen? End quote,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and Thomas replied that he did want those pictures, and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that's where the email exchange ends. So we don't know
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: if this New York Times reporter ever got those pictures,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: but if he did, why the fuck were those not
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: published by the New York Times or at least written
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: about or mentioned.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's some real pussy shit. Honestly, what is four
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: chan and a two hundred dollars chromebook for?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: It's not as big of a scandal as everything else
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: in here, but that does strike me as a little
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: bit of a scandal in that I think someone does
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: need to get in front of The New York Times
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and be like, where are those pictures? Did you ever
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: get him? What'd you do with him?
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Who knew about him? When? Yeah?
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: In another email, he suggests that reporters, quote ask my
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: houseman about Donald almost walking through the door, leaving his
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: nose print on the glass as young women were swimming
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: in the pool, and he was so focused he walked
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: straight into the door end quote.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Just know this is a goal in my life to
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: be able to tell someone to ask my houseman about it.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I think I've only had a door man once in
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: my life, and I was subletting that apartment. I've been
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: acting as my own houseman, like some kind of poor
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: bitch kudos to him for having a house man. I'm
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: surprised he didn't just have a house team that. Yeah,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: he also ordered to give him massages. How did he
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: decide on who gave the massages? Just so many fucking massages?
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I mean I gotta imagine, Well, he's a pimp, you know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: like he's got to have a whole system going.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: It's smart, but there's I'm sure there was like a
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: fucking well, she's probably tired from that thing earlier.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, schedule. There's also another email where Thomas sent Epstein
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: a link to a feature story about some woman. Is
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: she the emails where he's like asking advice the land
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and Thomas emails, Yeah.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I might have been with him.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I forget who he was talking to, but he's basically
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: a guy's basically talking to him about a check and
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: he's like asking, Jeffrey Epstein.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I feel like a bitch, but you know, I want
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: to keep talking to her. What should I do?
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I think that was Larry Seller's something.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was Larry Sellers.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which, who are you trying to date that you're
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: reaching out to Epstein for advice. You're like, what are
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: the kids into these days?
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I don't even well. I mean, he's got girls around him, Adam,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: and some of them are on the younger side. It's
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: true what I've heard.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: There's also an email where Epstein sent Thomas a link
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: to a feature story about a woman that Epstein had
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: previously dated, and he wrote, quote my twenty year old
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: girlfriend in ninety three that after two years I gave
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: to Donald end quote which, on the one hand, she's twenty,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: she's of age. But also, the fuck do you mean
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you gave her to Donald? I wonder if that's the
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: woman he sold Donald Trump with that big novelty.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Show you have a fully depreciated check.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that I mean, I guess would stand to reason,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: because by twenty she's aging out of Epstein's preferences. Obviously, Yeah,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: she's an old hen old maid. So that's some of
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: what is in here about Trump. But Trump's not the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: only famous person mentioned here. Steve Bannon is in these
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: emails a bunch which Steve Bannon. People can look it up.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: There is a clip of him in front of a
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: room full of Republicans and he literally says, if we
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: lose in twenty twenty six. A lot of us are
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: going to prison, including me, which fingers crossed, fucking fingers crossed.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Respect to the guy for saying quiet party loud? Why
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: fuck around?
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the stuff with Bannon and Epstein is more Epstein
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: giving Steve Bannon advice on how to navigate politics in Europe.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: But it's also from like twenty eighteen, so way, way, way,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: way way after the world knew Jeffrey Epstein was just
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: a straight up pedophile. So no hesitation to still work
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein on Steve Bannon's part despite everything he knew.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: It's all right with old Steve.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Then there's the Peter Teal emails. Those are a little
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: more vague.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of information you can only get from
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: this misspelling dufist that's constantly taking vacations.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: He wrote to Peter Teal in twenty fourteen and just
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: said that was fun, see you in three weeks end.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Quote.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Am I mistaken Peter Teal's gay right? I think Clauset
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: did because that was what the Gawker lawsuit was about,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: was about them, How was it? Yeah, it was about
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: them outing Peter Thiel as gay.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Tape.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: That is what in the eyes of the law it
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: was about. But them outing Peter Teel as gay is
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: why Peter Thiel bank.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Rolled so he's openly gay lawsuit. Yeah, I mean you
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: kind of gotta be.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: After Gawker outs you no coming back from that. That's
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: it's not as bad as Gaper And yeah, Gawker outing
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: him is the reason he funded hul Cogan's lawsuit to
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: take them down. But four years after that again well passed.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: When we knew Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile, he sent
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Peter Tiele an email that said, December, visit me Caribbean.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: End quote unclear if Peter Thiel responded, I'm sure Epstein,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: as a good host, probably had young boys on hand
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: to dole out massages too. It's just good business.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: That's interesting. I've never heard anything about him having fresh
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: little boys on hand. I guess it's one of these
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: things where you're like, well, if I make a female
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: restroom signs, it might as well make male restroom science.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know who's gonna ask you want to
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: have it on hand. It's just hospitality, Connor.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: It's sparkling and still it's like men and women.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, basic hospitality. Also, Sultan Ahmed bin Sulim, an Emiati businessman,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: has an interesting exchange in the files. Steve Bannon comes
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: up and Epstein says, we have become friends. You will
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: like him, And after that, Suliem asks do you think
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: it will be possible to shake hands with Trump? And
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Epstein says, call to discuss. So that's interesting too, because
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: that speaks to Epstein still having at least some sway
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: or influence with Trump at a point when Trump was
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: actually president.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: He's clearly putting it out there that he knows the guy, like, Hey,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I'm cool. You know, I'm cool with him? Could you
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: have to set up a phone call? He's kind of
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: like playing that angle.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: There's also an exchange from twenty ten with biotech venture
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: capitalist Boris Nikolitch where he says he's just met Epstein's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: friend in quotes Bill Clinton along with former French president
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Nicholas Sarkozzi, and quote your other friend Prince Andrew. And
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: it is not not interesting that Bill Clinton and Prince
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Andrew are both mentioned in this. Bill Clinton's gonna go
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: down hard for this, right.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: He has to write.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I mean he's got nothing he can do for anybody anymore, Like,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: you can't come out and give that speech at the
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: next Democratic National Convention and haven't moved the needle that much,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: can Hejess got nothing left offer anybody. It's time for
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: me to go at the pasture.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I wonder if he's picked up any more instruments. Maybe
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: he'll hop on an episode of Jimmy Fallon.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: And just bust out the flute like Lizzo.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, be a one man band, have one of those
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: samplers that plays loops of his shit, which I'm always
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: fascinated when I see someone doing that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to see an NPC player.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Also lots of academic types in these emails, like theoretical
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: physicist Lawrence Krauss, who reached out to Epstein in twenty seventeen,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: or advice on how to defend himself against accusations of
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: sexual assault, which that I get. If you want advice
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: for how to navigate a scandal, Jeffrey Epstein at this
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: point in history was absolutely your go to guy.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, really, these are muhammad Alis not getting hit by scandals.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I wrote a medium article I think about the Epstein
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: files years and years and years and years ago, and
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the details of his arrest and the sentence he got
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: are nuts. He was on work release, but they let
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: him just spend twelve hours of the day wherever he wanted.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that sweetheart deally Gut is really insane.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: A cop actually saw him just out on the streets
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: in a completely different city at one point and was like,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing? Why is this guy
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: walking around? And they were like, shut up, shut your mouth.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I forget.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: There's some Trump administration guy who was like kind of
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: asking some of these questions and in his words, told
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: him the guy's intelligence.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: We've been told it's above our pay grade.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that has to be part of this. There has
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to be some sort of intelligence operation at play here.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's getting not only harder not
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: to conclude, but harder to deny that the guy was massade.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know, maybe that speaks to why
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: we're letting Israel do whatever the fuck they want in
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the name of genocide.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had it covered either way. Trump and Clinton.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: They're like, we got the tape, We got the tape.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to me.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: And stuff like that happens there's a interview out there
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: with some FBI agent where they're just like, tell us
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: a story about one that got away. And he tells
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: his story. He mentions a famous rapper and a less
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: famous rapper. The famous rapper was threat and ning this
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: less famous guy, and they end up having this confrontation.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: The less famous guy shoots in his defense and when
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: they end up trying to arrest the more famous rapper,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: it gets kicked up to the Department of Justice and
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: they're like, we can't arrest that guy. And he was like,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: and the guy went on to have a very successful
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: rap career.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: It's like, wow, Okay, that guy's.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Probably a fucking cop.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Probably so.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Nom Chomsky, one of the greatest political minds of our time,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: is all over these fucking Epstein emails, and it's stuff
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: like Epstein being like, come hang out in Greece. He says,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: you're of course welcome to use the apartment in New
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: York with your new leisure time or visit New Mexico again.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: And Noam Chomsky has since come out and been like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: that's a mistake. Shouldn't hung out with that guy?
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Go on?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: What else?
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And why shouldn't you have in deep into personal detail.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: And of course the artist formerly known as Prince Andrew
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: aka Andrew Mount Batton Windsor which you shouldn't get to
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: have that princely name either. You still sound like royalty
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: with a name like that.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he should have to change his name to Doug something,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: no fireworks on that name, Doug Stevens, every.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Man or something even like insultingly average. Yeah.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Most of his emails are about how he's going to
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: deal with these accusations made by Virginia Jeffrey.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: This is a quote.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Please make sure that every statement or legal letter states
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: clearly that I am not involved and that I knew
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and know nothing about any of these allegations. I can't
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: take any more of this my end. I think Prince
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Andrew's guilty. That seems of all the people, it seems
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: like there's maybe even the most evidence against him.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Well, it's like when someone has done so much for
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: the world, it's hard to accept that they could be
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: guilty of a prime You know, as someone who grew
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: up listening to Prince Andrew's music, it's been hard for
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: me to reckon with this as a fan.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: It kills me that there are still people out there
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: who are like, all right, if all the files come out,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: just be ready, some of our faves on the left
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: are gonna go down. I don't have faves on the left.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: There are just politicians right now. I mean, I'd be
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: bummed if mom Donnie was in the files or some shit.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that would be so absurd. Yeah.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll probably will get a file that just has
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: his name scrawled in Trump's handwriting at the bottom.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he was even like a state
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: assemblyman at this point in time. Now he was even running,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: he was still a SoundCloud wrapper. So Deepak Chopra also
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: comes up Epstein for reasons that are unclear. Sent Chopra
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: an article about Katie Johnson, who was one of the
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Epstein victims who has actually accused Trump of wrongdoing and
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: an alleged sex party at the Epstein home.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine Jeffrey Epstein, a classic guy like that,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: using that as the theme of a party.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, no.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: The article was about how Johnson had dropped a civil
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: suit filed against Trump, and Choprah asked if she also
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: dropped a lawsuit that she had filed against Epstein, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: when Epstein replied that she did. Deepak Chopra just replied, good,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: So that's unfortunate. I didn't expect to see that guy
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: in here vouching for the pedophiles.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: How will I learn to fix my life in two
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: thousand and five without this guy.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: There's also another weird exchange between those two where Chopra
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: asked Epstein if he knows Marlon Maples, and Epstein replied yes.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: In fact, when she told Donald she was pregnant, lost
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: a ten thousand dollars bet with him and sent him
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: a truck of baby food in payment, she can tell
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: you the story of her friend who was caught having
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: sex with her shoes. Why would you not just tell
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: that story? Just tell it in the email? I want
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: to hear it.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, what do you hate typing?
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Can we upload Epstein's conch to a fucking AI thing
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: where he can just tell us that story?
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Call up Gleane, see if she's heard it.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I need those details. Who was fucking the shoes?
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming a dude.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I hope there was some nice leather.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: He's just putting his dick in her shoes. I hear
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: myself saying, I'm sure that's what he was doing.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as I thought about it in the abstract,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I was like, that guy definitely exists.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Whether we wanted out there or not, out he's out there.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: He is absolutely out there.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Just pushing the shoe together to get more friction.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: There's also a weird email where Epstein talks about Mohammed
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: ben Salmon, who is now Crown Prince Saudi Arabia, sending
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: him a tent. Just says, can you believe NBS sent
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: me a tent? Carpets and all?
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Here's a bold theory. Is he talking about a boner?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: You know, just sent you this tent?
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: You know it could be Actually that wouldn't because carpets
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: and all.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's also sexual. Yeah if you're five years old,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: which Jeffrey Epstein was five years old.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are we mean by carpets? Also, that seems
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: like not his thing. Honestly, if we're talking pubic hair,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: it seems like he well, I mean, he didn't go
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: that young like Megan.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Like carpets.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: But now let's talk about the email everyone's talking about.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: There's an email in there that was sent to Epstein
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: by his brother Mark, and in this exchange, Epstein tells
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: his brother that he's currently with Steve Bannon, and Mark
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: writes back, ask him if Putin has the photos of
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Trump blowing Bubba end quote, what I don't want to
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: see that.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Picture, but I have to see that picture.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you don't know if it's a joke, what
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: does it mean If it's a shitty joke. You don't
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: know if it's there's actually a picture of him blowing
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: a guy named Bubba. You don't know if it's the Bubba.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: If there is, I hope it's his presidential portrait someday.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: If it's Clinton, I hope they just do a joint
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: presidential portrait of the two and make it that picture.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you earned that. That's your bed lying.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: And and naturally, given that Bubba is his most well
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: known nickname, people immediately assumed he was talking about Bill Clinton.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So just take a moment swish that image round in
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: your head as long as you want. It doesn't help
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the story that, like I mentioned at the beginning of
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: the episode, just now, pictures and video of Trump grabbing
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Bill Clinton's dick at some event started making the rounds,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: and I linked to one of the photos in the
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: show notes, and it is exactly what I'm saying. It
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: is a picture of Trump with his hands on Bill
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Clinton's dick and they are.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Laughing it up.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Trump even looks evil when he laughs, Like the look
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: on his face looks like he's gonna eat Bill Clinton's dick.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: It looks like he just saw in the Orphan Fall.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: He's in great shape in this picture though he's not.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: But he's just straight up touching his dick. He is.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: And this is a still image from a video. There's
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: a video out there also where you see the whole act,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: So it's not like a doctored AI thing. Which what's
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: the eta on that? There's gonna be a video at
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: some point and they're just gonna call it AI.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's what has been gearing up for, is
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: for the switcheros.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a real easy way to hide.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: But I mean it would have to be a good
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: AI video. Is it gonna be a thing where there's
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: pictures on the wall and then they disappear for a
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: second and come back.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Is that everyone of you look closely, there's no real
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: words anywhere on They'll just shapes made out of letters.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Trump has six fingers.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Even back in the nineties when they took this picture,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: he's still wearing a red hat. It's like he knew.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't tell. It looks like maybe a Ferrari
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: or Porsha hat.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at first I thought it was a Maga hat,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: which that would have been even more damning. But so this,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: of course has prompted people to start calling Trump Donica Lewinsky,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: which is very fun. I like that name a lot,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: and that's why it is the title of this episode.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: But truth might be a little more complicated than that,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: but only because this email might be referring to a
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: completely different Bubba.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: And it's also kind of hard to imagine Trump bending
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: down that far.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially I mean when was it though, Was it
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: like Apprentice era Trump.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: When he was Yeah, I guess it's true in.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: His purest physical form or like now.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Can barely get a golf ball Trump?
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Trump is in bad shape these days. But
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: there are rumors floating around that the Bubba in question
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: is actually Republican donor c R. Bubba Salisbury Junior. I
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: don't know much about that guy, and so far it's
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: unknown exactly who the Bubba referenced in this email is,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: but I will say that there's a scandal brewing right
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: now over cash Patel for so many reasons. That's what
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: happens when you make an influencer the head of the FBI.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: But one of the scandals involves him, during the government shutdown,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: taking an FBI plane for a leisurely stay at a
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: place called Boondoggle Ranch.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: That sounds like we made it up for this podcast.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: We did not the owner of Boondoggle Ranch, Bubba Saulisbury Junior.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: So I guess that part of the story is still developing.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: But it is very interesting that the Bubba mentioned in
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: this email might be the same guy the director of
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: the FBI just flew to meet.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: As almost to set a price of some kind.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. I mean it again. True crime
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: listeners and conspiracy listeners need to have a meeting of
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: the minds when it comes to coincidences. Because if this
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: was a true crime podcast, I could comfortably say I
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: don't believe in coincidences and everyone listening would cheer for me,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: because you hear fucking cops say that on every goddamn
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: true crime show you'll ever watch. But when it comes
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: to conspiracy shit, I'm supposed to think this is just
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: a coincidence. The Trump's chosen director of the FBI flew
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: to this guy's ranch very shortly before rumors about Trump
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: blowing this guy and they're being pictures of it start circulating.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Just to add insult to injury, to blow a guide
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: named Salisbury, which is literally a brand of less desirable meat.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do fuck with a Salisbury steak though, but
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. I tried to make it myself once trash. Okay,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I only like the garbage TV dinner version of a
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Salisbury steak.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I respect that. Yeah.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess that part of the story is
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: still developing. But I don't think it's not nothing that
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: the FBI director flew to Bubba Salisbury's ranch in such
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: close proximity to rumors about this blowjob picture going around.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes, but it seems like the
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: government is gearing up to deal with this in operation
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: car Wash fashion. It's a thing I talk about a lot.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: There's a documentary about it called The Edge of Democracy.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: People should watch it. Basically, there was a scandal in
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Brazil that involved politicians on both sides of the aisle.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: At one point, the party on the left starts pushing
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: for an investigation in the name of fighting corruption. The
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: party on the right is like that, let's do it.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: And then the party on the right manages to implicate
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: only people on the left for this scandal. A former
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: president goes to jail, the president at the time got impeached,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: and it was absolutely a scandal that everyone on both
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: sides was involved in, but they successfully made it seem
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: like it was just Democrats or people on the left.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: And it seems like that's what Trump is going to do,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: because he got on truth Social to call on Pam
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Bondi's pathetic Nazi ass to investigate Democrats over their relationship
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein, and of course she replied, vowing to
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: carry out Trump's wishes. He specifically called for investigations into
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, JP Morgan, and Chase Banks, former Treasury Secretary
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Larry Summers, and LinkedIn founder Reid Hoffman, a prominent Democratic donor.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: So that's interesting. But even more interesting the latest twist
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: this just came out this morning. Trump is backing the
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: release of the Epstein files.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, what a guy.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he has called on Republicans to vote to release
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: the files. This is a quote, of course, untruth social
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: where all of our government policy is crafted. Yep House,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files because we
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: have nothing to hide and it's time to move on
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: from this democrat. I don't care. All I do care
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: about is the Republicans get back on point and quote
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Pam Bond. He had to get in front of some
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: committee at one point to talk about the Epstein files,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and one of the people on that committee was like,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: can you tell me about going through the Epstein files
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: and flagging anything that mentions Trump? And she was like,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk to you about that. Very awesomely,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: the guy's like, oh, you're going to talk about it
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: someday though, But I wouldn't doubt if that was behind
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the delay in swearing in Adelita Raholva.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they could go and kind of yeah, just
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: like plunge him out and leave it enough in there
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: so it doesn't look fake.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then leave everything that implicates anyone else and
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: take them all down. And now Trump looks like the
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: hero QAnon always wanted him to be. It's a terrifying prospect.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just thinking about how popular that would look.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like it would even be kind of popular
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: on the left.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Well, he's not really getting our top stars of the day,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: you know, a no offense Larry Summers.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: We will see how this goes. This is obviously a
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: story the entire fucking world is going to be following.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Next week we'll finish up Soros episodes and then I
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: don't know what we'll talk about after that. We need
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: to do some fun shit. It isn't about it.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Some more Epstein files by that time.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which that qualifies as fun shit? Oh yeah, yeah,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: but it'll probably just be more stuff about the collapse
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: of Western civilization. Good time. Oh that yeah, keep it coming.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: That's how we make our money. World crumbling. So until then,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I think that is our episode. What do we got
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: to plug? Or we get out of here? Read my
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: writings Adam Todd Brown dot behive dot com. Follow me
• 47:46
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• 47:49
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• 47:52
  Speaker 1: you can follow me on all of them. Guess which
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: one I use? Connor, what do you want to plug?
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Follow me on the socials, X threads, Instagram, Facebook, and
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I watched my comedy special live in Tucson on YouTube
• 48:03
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• 48:06
  Speaker 1: And I think that's it. Let's get the funk out
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: of here. Connor say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye everybody, and we
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: love you.