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Obsession is Pure Psychological Terror - Xenomania 83 · Xenomania

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  Jon: This week on Xenomania, we talk about one of the hottest movies of 2026.
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  When a lovelorn young man makes a wish hoping his crush will love him more than
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  anyone else, it works, and for a moment it seems like his dream has come true.
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  But as her free will evaporates, obsession grows into insanity and terror.
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  Can Bear escape his self-inflicted torment?
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  We'll find out in this spoiler-heavy episode.
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  Additionally, we play Slasher Stash, and no one will slash a favorite
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  director's entire filmography, right?
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  This is obsession.
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  This is xenomania, and we all know better than to break a one-wish willow.
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  I think
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  right with your mustache?
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  It's very '70s biker, leather hat biker
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  Kearns: Were you, were you just enthralled with arm wrestling?
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  Like, did you decide you were gonna enter a tournament and you must
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  win it despite Lincoln Hawk needing to get his son back in his life?
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  Ryan: That was the goal.
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  That was the goal.
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  Uh, but it, it didn't end up that way this week
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  Kearns: listeners, John and I think that Ryan's mustache
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  might be a little over the top.
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  That's all we're saying.
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  not talking about that movie tonight.
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  We're talking about Obsession
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  The modern obsession, the current obsession in our society
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  Ryan: Which is
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  Kearns: and Ryan's mustache.
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  No, it
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  Ryan: say with just the movie.
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  The movie is everyone's obsessing, not to put a pun on it, over this movie
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  because it's written well, characters, great filmography, cine- cinematography.
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  Uh, the editing I learned today, Curry Barker, who directed and wrote this
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  film, uh, edited the film too, and that takes a lot 'cause editing you
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  can… Like, especially when it's your baby, you wanted to make it as perfect
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  as apple pie, and he, he does that.
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  'Cause I feel like… What?
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  What's wrong with
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  Jon: Is apple pie perfect?
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  Ryan: It ca- it can be.
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  Kearns: one,
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  Ryan: It can be perfect.
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  You know, we just gotta tell your mom we ate it.
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  Uh, but, you know, with Obsession, what, no
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  Jon: Don't you talk about my mom.
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  Don't you talk about my mom like that
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  Kearns: Talk about another man's mom's apple pie.
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  We could talk about that.
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  That mustache has got you acting all kinds of crazy
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  Ryan: There's an American Pie reference, thank you very much.
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  But,
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  Kearns: Oh, that is an American Pie reference.
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  He's right.
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  He's right.
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  Ryan: come on now.
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  How d-
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  Jon: It is.
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  Ryan: But, you know, he does excellent with the editing.
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  Like, the cuts are very well put together.
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  It doesn't slow.
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  It's a very quick-paced film, and I like it
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  Kearns: That's something that pulls you in right away is the pacing of it.
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  you get the immediate, like, issue with Bear right off the jump.
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  And they do a good job unveiling it.
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  The little twist with the waitress
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: stuff like that's kinda cool.
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  And, uh, you get- you meet Ian.
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  You meet the whole cast pretty quickly, actually.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: scene you
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  Kearns: meet… What's the other girl's
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  Ryan: Sarah
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  Jon: Sarah
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  Kearns: You meet Sarah the next scene in the bar.
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  But yeah, they get it rolling well.
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  You get the lay of the land, and I just, I did, I enjoyed kind of the
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  cuts, how they paced it, that they didn't linger on anything too long,
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  and jumped sort of right into it
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  Ryan: He established everything, uh, quickly, which is, I don't wanna say
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  it's unique for today's filmmaking, but I feel like certain horror films that
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  we've watched recently where it's like that slow build acclimate us to the
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  world, this was just like, "This is the world. here we go." It's very, um, we were
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  talking about how he does a sketch comedy called That's a Bad Idea on YouTube.
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  It's very, like, YouTube-y, if that makes sense, where
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  Kearns: No, it
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  Ryan: they're like, "Like, get into it," you know?
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  Kearns: very… Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
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  It's very modern in that it's paying attention to the fact that people don't
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  like, in a movie like this especially, people don't wanna linger around.
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  we need the scenes to shift.
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  We need to continue the motion so we don't lose our
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  Jon: Hmm.
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  Kearns: And even as a 42-year-old who lived before this kind of life, I'm
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  becoming like that as time goes on.
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  I'm fighting it, but I've noticed it.
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  Ryan: Keep up the good fight
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  Jon: I, I appreciate a film that does it.
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  I don't think it al- has to always be that way.
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  I like the slow burns a lot,
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  Kearns: Yes.
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  Jon: didn't even have to be
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  Kearns: Ryan just mentioned, uh, Pan's Labyrinth and, that's a
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  movie where you have to settle in,
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  Ryan: Yep
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  Kearns: attention,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: immerse yourself in it.
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  It's not necessarily going to whisk you away here and there and everywhere
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  right away and stuff like that.
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  And why are we talking about Pan's Labyrinth again, Bill Hurley?
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  Ryan: we're talking about Pan's Labyrinth because, you know, ironically, I have
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  an obsession with movies, as we all do, and I didn't realize how many Guillermo
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  del Toro films I have in my collection.
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  Kearns: What's that guy's name again?
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  Ryan: Guillermo del Toro.
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  Kearns: Glarmo.
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  Ryan: Guillermo
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  Kearns: like, like a bad glare mo when you're driving to work and the
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  sun's low and you're like, "Glarmo."
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  Ryan: DeLermo?
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  Come on.
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  Guillermo.
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  Guillermo.
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  Guillermo del Toro.
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  I didn't realize I had so many…
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  Kearns: in there.
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  You could say Guillermo.
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  Ryan: I just didn't realize how many films I've had, and we've been
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  talking for so, like, long now.
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  Like, about a year since Frankenstein, Pan's Labyrinth, and it just shocked
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  me, like, how many movies are in my library, and I didn't even know
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  Kearns: Oh, that, that he had made?
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  Ryan: Oh God, yeah.
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  The only one I'm really missing is Cronos, and that has a beautiful Criterion
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  collection available at Barnes & Noble,
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  Kearns: I would love
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  Ryan: 50% off
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  Kearns: criterions of his work would be, oh, oh, chef's kiss
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  Ryan: They're all
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  Jon: I think almost all of them are.
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  Uh, the Hellboys I don't think are.
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  Frankenstein's October.
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  Ryan: Pacific
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  Jon: Frankenstein in October.
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  Pacific Rim isn't.
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  Kearns: Yeah, that's right.
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  He goes into the action stuff.
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  I mean, it's like serious work,
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  Ryan: Is,
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  Kearns: sellout
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  Ryan: is Kronos though, Kronos is serious, but it's like, I feel
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  like that's his like first film.
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  But was The Relic ever a part of the Criterion Collection?
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  Is it The Relic or The Mimic?
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  Kearns: I was gonna say the Relic isn't
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  Jon: He's Mimic.
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  Ryan: The Mimic.
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  Sorry.
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  Jon: somebody,
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  Ryan: flip those
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  Jon: else just put Mimic out on 4K.
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  Maybe Keno Lorber?
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  Somebody else put it out, like, within the last three or four months
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  Kearns: Nice
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  Ryan: At least they could have released
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  Kearns: by the way.
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  We should do The Relic,
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  Ryan: Oh, that's
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  Jon: We should do the relic
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  Ryan: We should
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  Kearns: enjoyed The Relic, and Tom Sizemore carries that
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  movie, and that's not normal.
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  It's not normal, and it's a
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  Ryan: It's, it's weird because it's at a time where The Mimic did
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  come out at the same time, and I think the conversation was what
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  Jon: Yes.
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  Ryan: The Relic or
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  Jon: Yes
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  Ryan: And I feel like, I don't know, I feel, yeah, I was
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  gonna say, like, it's close.
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  close
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  Kearns: better.
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  'cause the people who
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: got in that museum, you want them to
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  Ryan: Well, yeah.
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  Kearns: That's also
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  Jon: Yeah, yeah
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  Kearns: Who's that?
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  Diane, uh, not Diane Keaton.
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  Uh, what's her name?
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  Ryan: Oh
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  Kearns: the president in that movie too
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  Ryan: Yes
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  Jon: Diane Lane
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  Kearns: I wish, dude.
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  Diane Lane was, oh my God, she was my, like, older woman obsession forever.
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  Ryan: Let's see here.
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  Tom Sizemore, Penelope Ann Miller, Linda Hunt, James Whitmore, Cloris Leachman,
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  Kearns: it?
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  Ryan: Hunt?
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  Oh, oh
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  Kearns: her.
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  Ryan: I don't think she, she was
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  Jon: It's probably Penelope and Miller
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  Ryan: Yeah, I was gonna say
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  Kearns: 2020 one that's messing me up.
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  Yeah.
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  Why is there a 20-- 1997, what are you doing to me?
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  Ryan: How dare they make a sequel
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  Kearns: It'll be Anne Miller
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: All right.
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  Anyway, everybody, back to Obsession.
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  Jon: Back to obsession
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  Kearns: this movie got everybody going because of Freaky Nikki and how
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  well the actress plays Freaky Nikki.
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  the onset of her is super well done.
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  So
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: don't think we should need to explain to the listeners
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  generally, like, how that happens.
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  You should have seen Obsession.
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  If you didn't, definitely watch it before
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  Ryan: Yes
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  Jon: Yeah, d- we are g- we are going to spoil the crap out of
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  this movie over the next hour.
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  If you have not watched it, stop now.
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  Just stop now
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  Kearns: spoiling it.
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  so when he makes the wish, and we'll talk, we'll save the fact that he's
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  such an idiot for having to make the wish in the car in that moment.
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  she comes right back.
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  Like, it happens immediately
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  Ryan: Yes, but she's like standing under like the dark silhouette of the light
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  under her porch just staring at him.
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  I feel like it was like,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: with the two-faced one?
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  But,
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  Kearns: do it for you?
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  Ryan: uh, no, like I, I feel like it was, it was like, it's nostalgic
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  because you go into these like, uh, you know, go into Spencer's, right?
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  And they had all the gag stuff, and then you would see something like that, like,
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  "Will it work as a kid?" And then you get older, it's like, "Ah, that's, that's
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  not real." And it kinda, you know, you-
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  Kearns: that a couple times in this movie though,
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  Ryan: Oh, yeah
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  Kearns: They do.
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  don't wanna argue with you because I don't want you to rip my arm off, but a few
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  scenes… You're right about that one.
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  That one's a little like, "What's going on?" But the, the scenes where
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  she's freaky Nicki in the house and she walks backwards into the
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  shadows and stuff and does the-- That
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Well
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  Kearns: that,
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  Ryan: or watching you while you're sleeping?
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  Kearns: Yeah,
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  Jon: the scene, the scene with the flower pot in front of her face isn't her.
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  That's a dancer that they hired to do that because he wanted, like,
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  specific moves that Indy Nevareck wasn't probably gonna be able to do.
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  So he wanted that more, like, fluid motion.
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  Kearns: Cool.
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  Jon: Yeah
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  Kearns: trivia.
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  Um
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  Jon: there's some cool trivia around this too.
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  I have another pretty cool one too.
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  So
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  Kearns: hear it
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  Jon: the, four main characters all work in a music shop.
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  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
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  Which was
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  Jon: That, music shop is Cassell's Music in California,
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  Ryan: Okay
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  Jon: which is the same music store from Wayne's World
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  Kearns: Oh, cool.
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  Ryan: That is
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  Jon: Ja.
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  Ryan: All right.
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  Jon: Ja
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  Ryan: there a connection?
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  Are we, are we doing a
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  Jon: I say, I, I mean,
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  Kearns: They're
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  Jon: mean if,
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  Kearns: Sam Neill's the diner guy?
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  Jon: yeah.
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  If, if Lee Cronin had made this, yeah, it's the same universe
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  Kearns: his name?
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  Al Bundy, whatever his name is.
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  Ryan: Oh,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: Ed O- Ed O-
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  Kearns: Neill, by the way.
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  Since
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  Ryan: Ed O'Neill
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  Kearns: we're that, we're on it.
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  Ed O'Neill, right.
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  Sam Neill was on my mind.
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  that's super cool, John
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  I stumbled on that today.
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  I thought that was pretty cool
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  Ryan: There was no s-
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  Kearns: on
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  Ryan: no stairway to heaven though in this film, guys.
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  Jon: No.
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  Ryan: that
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  Kearns: nor was
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  Jon: I, uh, I mean, there are some trips to heaven, but
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  And boy, do they go there the, the hard way.
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  Um, all
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  Jon: We'll get to that
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  Kearns: the onset of Freaky Nicki kind of starts this movie off where
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  you get the tone and tenor of it, and you realize kind of like what
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  you're in for, and that was cool.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  I really like those moments at the, right after he makes that wish
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  where you know it's working, Bear kinda knows it's working, but Nikki
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  is clueless to what's going on.
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  It's like, she went from, you know, going home after being driven home by
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  this kinda dorky guy who she may or may not be interested in at all, and now
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  all of a sudden she's just drawn to him
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  Kearns: Right.
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  Gone is, uh, sh… I, and it's also weird in the beginning, almost like the whatever
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  Freaky Nikki is, is getting its bearings
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  Jon: Uh-huh
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  Kearns: 'cause she's sort of like half in, half out.
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  Ryan: Yes
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  Kearns: up, walks away, like, "What's happening? What did I do?" And then she
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So I would imagine what that is, is that the longer you're under
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  the control of the wish, the further away from yourself you get
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  Kearns: That makes sense.
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  That makes perfect sense.
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  And Bear begins to notice something's off relatively early 'cause it's
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  impossible not to notice something's
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: early.
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  You heard the, you heard,
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  Kearns: came through.
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  Ryan: you heard the motorcycles?
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  All right, just wanted to make sure.
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  Kearns: That's okay.
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  It works with your, uh, your whole theme tonight.
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  Jon: Y- your gang's here for you
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  Kearns: yeah, exactly.
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  They're ready to ride, buddy.
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  Um, but yeah, Bear notices something's off relatively early, and he's not
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  even remotely interested in dealing with it or changing the setup at all
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  Ryan: 'Cause he got what he wanted.
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  He got her full attention, even
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: to the point where, like, he's like, you know, you say he's weird, he's
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  awkward, and you can see that he notices that something's wrong, but he… And this
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  is where I start disliking the character is, like, he still goes through with
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  it, and it's like even though, like, you love her, like, if you love her so much,
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  wouldn't you want to kind of help her?
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  And no, he's just like, "Yeah," but he's like 50/50, and then when he
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  tries to make a move, that's when she screams in her face, and that's when
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  I first, like, jump in the film, too.
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  Kearns: Yeah,
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  Jon: Well,
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  Ryan: like, yeah
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  Jon: you do have sort of these moments where he's in, very early on, where
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  he's not sure and, like, he, you know, he doesn't wanna, the f- that first
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  night he doesn't wanna do anything that feels like he'd be taking advantage.
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  he's sort of trying to keep Nikki at arm's length even though
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  it's exactly what he wanted.
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  And then, like, he sort of feeds her an excuse of being, you know, on substances
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  and chemicals the night before, so she's able to latch onto that as a
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  temporary excuse for how she behaved.
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  But he, knows
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  Kearns: Yep.
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  He definitely knows.
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  And
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  Jon: And…
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  Kearns: more, like I said, uh, about Bear n- being, uh,
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  literally incapable of closing
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: when she's in Freaky Nikki mode for a while,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: a little
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  Jon: And
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  Kearns: John, we're saying
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  Jon: like, like I, I understand his initial compulsion.
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  Like, it's h- I mean, I'm a person who always struggled
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  with that kind of thing too.
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  And I, like, I definitely like wish that someone would, would love me, but like not
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  Kearns: Aw.
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  Ryan: We love you,
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  I, I mean, I'm, I'm comfortable in it now, but, you know, there, there
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  was the, they, yeah, they, th- like I, I, I think this, people who know
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  me sort of forget how, you know, reserved I am when I first meet people.
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  So I, I definitely understand where Bear is.
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  Ryan: Okay
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  Jon: To start, to start
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  Kearns: Start.
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  Ryan: To
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  Jon: for about,
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  Ryan: keyword
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  Jon: for a couple minutes, then it,
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  Kearns: they
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  Jon: know, you, you, you immediately, you immediately recognize that he needs
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  to do something and he's unwilling and, you know, maybe incapable of doing it
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  And I, he isn't unlikable in this realization yet, he's on his way to
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  being unlikable in this realization when you're watching the movie.
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  but you're sort of so enthralled with what's happening with Nikki
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  at that point that you're not
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: attention so much to what Bear's doing situation until a little bit later.
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  But what does make Bear a lot more unlikable, and I'm not sure if
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  they did it for this reason, when he inadvertently murders his cat.
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  Ryan: Negligence.
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  Kearns: that.
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  Ryan: Negligence
• 16:07
  Jon: we have to touch on…
• 16:08
  Kearns: Ellie, ear muff it for me.
• 16:10
  Jon: this, this was almost the shortest a movie was on our calendar.
• 16:16
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 16:17
  Jon: it
• 16:17
  Kearns: worried
• 16:17
  Jon: li- it literally almost got shut off within five minutes when he comes
• 16:22
  home and the cat is dead on the floor.
• 16:24
  Ryan: You were really gonna shut it off?
• 16:27
  Jon: oh, 100%.
• 16:29
  100-
• 16:30
  Kearns: Well, we were goading him on a
• 16:32
  Ryan: Yeah
• 16:32
  Kearns: by saying the second half's really good, and it, it
• 16:34
  does wrap that part up eventually.
• 16:36
  But it does get
• 16:37
  Jon: That's the,
• 16:38
  Ryan: Well,
• 16:38
  Jon: that's the only reason I stuck it out.
• 16:42
  That, and that you guys had already watched it, and I was like, I know
• 16:45
  it didn't wanna waste you guys' time, so I forced my way through it.
• 16:49
  And, and I ended up liking it, but to me, it's something, it's
• 16:56
  the only flaw in this movie.
• 16:58
  You- they didn't have to do it.
• 17:01
  I firmly, I firmly… I, well,
• 17:05
  Ryan: To
• 17:05
  Jon: le- let me, let me, let me s- let me start there, like,
• 17:08
  'cause there's a, there's, I think there's a few things they did.
• 17:11
  it gives sort of an immediate normal thing for Freaky Nicky to latch onto
• 17:17
  in the sympathy for his dead cat.
• 17:20
  Ryan: Okay
• 17:20
  Jon: know?
• 17:21
  So, so g- it gives that.
• 17:22
  It gives… immediately shows you that, Bear is incapable of caring for things.
• 17:30
  He's irresponsible, you know, that's sort of how he then carries
• 17:34
  on into his relationship with her.
• 17:37
  And it also establishes that he has oxies in the house, and that's
• 17:43
  gonna be super important later on.
• 17:46
  That said, you could've done all of that without killing a cat.
• 17:51
  You don't have to do it.
• 17:52
  It's so, so… I was talking about this with Allison, because obviously
• 17:56
  she didn't watch Obsession with me.
• 17:58
  Once I told her about the cat, that was it.
• 18:01
  Like, um, but you know, we… He, that's not really, you didn't ha-
• 18:07
  Like, but we were talking about how there are some movies that really
• 18:12
  does serve the plot, like John Wick
• 18:16
  Kearns: Right,
• 18:16
  Ryan: Yeah
• 18:18
  Jon: You need, the dog, the dog needs to die so he has something that he's
• 18:22
  that passionate about to come out of retirement and go on, on that spree.
• 18:28
  Kearns: Right
• 18:28
  Jon: The Evil Dead remake, however, you didn't have to do it.
• 18:33
  Ryan: Yeah
• 18:34
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 18:34
  Jon: And I-
• 18:35
  Kearns: value ones are pissing me off.
• 18:36
  I
• 18:37
  Jon: Yeah.
• 18:38
  And, and I mean, Obsession sort of walks that line of being a shock one.
• 18:42
  Ryan: Yes
• 18:43
  Jon: y- you know, it's a, one of the real first defining traits of Bear
• 18:48
  is knowing that he has a cat, and then it's immediately dead on screen
• 18:54
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 18:56
  Jon: And that, I don't know, like it just…
• 19:00
  Ryan: It's a plot
• 19:01
  Jon: Yeah
• 19:02
  Ryan: Thinking about it, it
• 19:03
  Kearns: also, leverages it to try to get her sympathy
• 19:06
  Ryan: Yeah
• 19:06
  Kearns: Nikki's still regular Nikki, and I also thought that was incredibly lame
• 19:11
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 19:11
  Ryan: Oh, it was poor how he like delivers it too, and Ian's
• 19:15
  over his shoulder just like
• 19:19
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 19:19
  Well
• 19:20
  Ryan: the bear
• 19:21
  Kearns: what we find out later, about Ian, and we don't need to
• 19:24
  keep it a secret now, is that he's sleeping with Nikki on and off,
• 19:28
  Ryan: Yep
• 19:28
  Kearns: is that he is quietly sabotaging Bear a little
• 19:32
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 19:32
  Kearns: scene if you watch, if you watch closely and
• 19:36
  Ryan: Oh, yeah
• 19:36
  Kearns: the beats of something like that.
• 19:37
  You're like, "Oh, shoot. Okay," later on.
• 19:42
  Making it so that he's another character who's very unlikable
• 19:45
  Jon: Yes.
• 19:46
  Ryan: Yes
• 19:46
  Jon: men in this movie are pretty hard to like
• 19:51
  Kearns: Are hard to like.
• 19:52
  Also, just to, not to wrap up the cat just yet, we also didn't
• 19:55
  need to drag it out and have her
• 19:57
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 19:58
  Kearns: h- the cat as a meal,
• 20:00
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 20:01
  We didn't…
• 20:01
  Ryan: fur still intact
• 20:03
  Kearns: A ritual for the,
• 20:04
  Jon: we didn't need the ritual, we didn't need the, the meal.
• 20:07
  Like, you could, you could've, you could've sort of established
• 20:12
  all those things without it being centered around a dead animal.
• 20:17
  And listen, I, ca- cats in particular because, I mean, it's pretty
• 20:22
  well established that I live with cats, I share a house with cats.
• 20:27
  I definitely don't own cats.
• 20:28
  If anything, they own me.
• 20:30
  But
• 20:33
  Ryan: But if you get into the idea of her, like, losing herself and maybe a little
• 20:38
  bit of part of her still in it, and that's where her certain glitches happen with the
• 20:42
  screaming and the reactions and realizing sh- she's not where she wants to be.
• 20:47
  Maybe she did it out of spite.
• 20:50
  She realizes that the cat, you know, the death of the cat hurts him.
• 20:54
  He made the mistake.
• 20:55
  It's his fault.
• 20:56
  He's gotta own it.
• 20:57
  And then,
• 20:58
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 20:58
  Ryan: I'm gonna feed you the cat.
• 21:00
  You ha- you're having me go through this wish.
• 21:03
  I'm gonna feed you the cat.
• 21:04
  I'm gonna make it like a little shrine for it.
• 21:07
  I'm gonna torment
• 21:08
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 21:08
  Ryan: you know?
• 21:09
  And I mean, I feel like that connects later on when we talk
• 21:12
  about what, um, Elshi goes through.
• 21:15
  I think that's her trying to make him feel guilty and feel bad
• 21:19
  and putting him through his own torment for making this great wish
• 21:22
  Jon: Yeah.
• 21:23
  Yeah, that, that's, that… I mean, but she also additionally, like aside
• 21:32
  from just being under his spell at that point, she is like f- mentally
• 21:39
  falling apart because, I read Curry Barker said that the real Nikki is in
• 21:44
  kind of a purgatory during, while she's under, and that kinda makes sense.
• 21:50
  And like she's, she has moments of lucidity, fewer and fewer as the
• 21:55
  movie goes on until like basically it's only when she's unconscious
• 21:59
  that she's herself anymore.
• 22:02
  Kearns: Is super
• 22:03
  Jon: It's
• 22:03
  Kearns: on in the movie when she speaks to him.
• 22:05
  But that's, that's almost like the, done flirting with the
• 22:08
  idea, making us think at all.
• 22:10
  They just reveal that Nikki is trapped and Bear is now fully aware
• 22:16
  Jon: Yeah.
• 22:16
  Kearns: is in pain
• 22:18
  Ryan: I had to rewind that scene
• 22:19
  Kearns: something.
• 22:20
  Ryan: a
• 22:20
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 22:20
  Kearns: scene
• 22:21
  Ryan: I rewound it two or three times because I just wanted to hear what she was
• 22:25
  saying, and I was like, "No way they're doing this." And I was like, "Okay."
• 22:31
  Skill?
• 22:34
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 22:35
  Um,
• 22:36
  Ryan: You have a game for us?
• 22:37
  Kearns: I was gonna say, John, you got a game?
• 22:40
  Jon: Of course I have a game.
• 22:41
  It's another Slasher Stash with devastating consequences again.
• 22:46
  Ryan: Uh, can we just do a blind ranking if it's so devastating?
• 22:51
  Jon: Nope.
• 22:53
  I'm gonna tell you, if you slash a movie on this list, you have slashed
• 22:58
  the entire director's filmography
• 23:02
  Ryan: Uh-huh.
• 23:05
  Jon: It's three and five, three and five, but if you guess the theme,
• 23:11
  I'll give you an extra stash.
• 23:13
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 23:14
  Jon: So we'll start with
• 23:16
  Kearns: We
• 23:16
  Jon: another Blum,
• 23:18
  Ryan: Well,
• 23:18
  Jon: another Blum, another Blumhouse movie.
• 23:21
  Get Out is our first one
• 23:23
  Ryan: Hold on.
• 23:23
  Is that a guess, Kearns?
• 23:26
  Kearns: No
• 23:27
  Jon: No, he said he can't say that.
• 23:29
  Ryan: Oh,
• 23:29
  Jon: What are you trying, what are you trying to take his stash away already?
• 23:33
  Kearns: yeah
• 23:34
  Ryan: I was gonna say top five comedy, people in comedy to horror directors
• 23:40
  Jon: No.
• 23:41
  Ryan: Basic.
• 23:41
  Now, damn it
• 23:42
  Jon: No.
• 23:42
  Do you want me to take a save, uh, stash away?
• 23:45
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 23:46
  That was a, that was definitely a guess.
• 23:48
  Jon: That was definitely a guess.
• 23:50
  Oof.
• 23:51
  Ryan, I hope you ultimately get this right.
• 23:54
  Kearns: Yes,
• 23:55
  Ryan: You're, you're,
• 23:55
  Jon: all right
• 23:56
  Ryan: messing up my top five tonight
• 23:58
  Kearns: Oh,
• 23:59
  Jon: Get Out is your first movie?
• 24:01
  Uh, uh, well, if Get Out is in your, is in your top five, you better stash it
• 24:05
  Ryan: It's not, but like
• 24:07
  Kearns: word
• 24:07
  Ryan: you get rid of everything
• 24:09
  Kearns: the right word.
• 24:10
  I'm trying to help you now, Ryan.
• 24:11
  Possession's not the right word, but we see what it is.
• 24:15
  And the next movie will solidify what it is, I'm sure.
• 24:18
  But
• 24:18
  Jon: think it will
• 24:20
  Kearns: Get Out.
• 24:21
  I enjoyed Get Out quite a bit.
• 24:22
  It was a phenomenon when it launched, and that's fine.
• 24:27
  Jon: Not dissimilar from the, the obsession phenomenon, by the way
• 24:32
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 24:33
  Ryan: Yeah
• 24:33
  Kearns: in love with it.
• 24:34
  I watched it and I was like, "Oh, what a mediocre film."
• 24:38
  Jon: I thought, I thought it was good.
• 24:39
  I thought I, they, I liked it.
• 24:41
  It, I got to it too late though
• 24:44
  Kearns: Oh, that might be it.
• 24:45
  We weren't in the,
• 24:47
  Jon: Yeah.
• 24:48
  Kearns: of it.
• 24:48
  Yeah.
• 24:49
  Jon: Yeah, by the time I got to it, it was l- a huge hype machine
• 24:53
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 24:56
  Jon: Brian, did you say s- did you re- answer?
• 24:59
  Ryan: No, 'cause I'm-- this is gonna… Like, 'cause it gets rid of
• 25:02
  his whole filmography that really… 'Cause that's why I said comedy to
• 25:05
  horror directors, 'cause Jordan Peele.
• 25:08
  Uh.
• 25:08
  Yeah.
• 25:08
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 25:09
  Ryan: Ugh
• 25:09
  Kearns: wouldn't mind getting rid of his
• 25:10
  Jon: Nej
• 25:11
  Kearns: Two of his movies are the same movie, and then, uh, Nope was really
• 25:15
  enjoyable, but also not wonderful
• 25:20
  Ryan: You know what?
• 25:21
  Jon: Nope i-, Nope is my favorite.
• 25:23
  Ryan: I'm slash.
• 25:24
  Jon: Slash
• 25:24
  Kearns: all of
• 25:24
  Ryan: Yeah, I have a backup
• 25:26
  Kearns: in "Nope" isn't nearly as, like, overpowering
• 25:30
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 25:30
  Kearns: the movie.
• 25:30
  And not to be like, "Oh, you star.
• 25:35
  I don't like the agenda. People who are different than
• 25:36
  me suck." No, not like that.
• 25:36
  It's just that when you're watching a horror movie and there's very clear
• 25:39
  racial agenda involved in it with a not so hidden message about it, which is fine.
• 25:47
  I don't disagree with the message, it's just I-- it
• 25:49
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 25:53
  You prefer subtlety
• 25:54
  Kearns: it.
• 25:55
  Yeah, I do.
• 25:56
  I like
• 25:57
  Jon: Yeah.
• 25:57
  Kearns: me work for it a little bit, to be
• 25:58
  Jon: Yeah.
• 25:59
  Yeah.
• 26:01
  All right.
• 26:01
  Movie number two.
• 26:02
  Let's see if you guys are thinking anything close to where this is going.
• 26:07
  Movie number two is Fright Night,
• 26:10
  Ryan: Oh,
• 26:10
  Jon: one of our early shows
• 26:13
  Kearns: maybe it is P word.
• 26:18
  Am I gonna outright guess it?
• 26:19
  I don't know.
• 26:21
  I
• 26:21
  Jon: Is it though?
• 26:22
  Kearns: though, "Get Out" is not possession.
• 26:24
  It's not.
• 26:25
  There's like body swapping, so
• 26:27
  Jon: Friday night really possession
• 26:30
  Kearns: no.
• 26:30
  Brian, are you gonna take this or am I gonna try it out?
• 26:32
  'Cause I might get it.
• 26:33
  Ryan: Oh, no, I'm not taking, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not taking any chances
• 26:37
  because I already got… I, I, I'm, I'm changing my top five right now,
• 26:40
  which is comedy to horror directors, and I had to get rid of Jordan Peele.
• 26:44
  Yeah, it was us, so why I'm, I'm working right now.
• 26:48
  So yes, I'm stashing Fright Night.
• 26:52
  Kearns: Wowzer.
• 26:54
  Ryan: These damn rules
• 26:55
  Kearns: don't know if I can get rid of Fright Night
• 26:57
  Jon: There are some very good reasons
• 27:00
  Kearns: I'm gonna stash Fright Night.
• 27:01
  We did this movie.
• 27:04
  We enjoyed this movie.
• 27:07
  Jon: We did.
• 27:08
  All right.
• 27:09
  Let's see what you think of movie three, which is Hellraiser
• 27:16
  Kearns: Oops
• 27:17
  Ryan: Stash.
• 27:18
  done now.
• 27:20
  Jon: Boy, Ryan, I, I hope you guess this real quick here.
• 27:25
  I mean, I can't take a save away, a stash away from you at this point, so you might
• 27:29
  as well just shoot a guess if you have one
• 27:32
  Kearns: That's a good point, Ryan.
• 27:33
  You have nothing to lose now
• 27:36
  Jon: You're on house money with this guess
• 27:47
  Ryan: Oh.
• 27:47
  Oh, shit.
• 27:48
  It's games.
• 27:50
  puzzles.
• 27:50
  It's puzzle games, making the wish.
• 27:52
  You open the box, you play the rules
• 27:56
  Kearns: get it?
• 27:56
  Did he get it, John?
• 27:58
  Jon: No.
• 27:59
  Kearns: Aw.
• 28:01
  Ryan: though
• 28:01
  Kearns: like that in Fright Night, though
• 28:03
  Jon: Nope.
• 28:05
  There's not a lot of that in Get Out either
• 28:09
  Kearns: Get Out has the people, the people getting swapped.
• 28:13
  Jon: Yeah
• 28:13
  Kearns: then in Fright Night,
• 28:16
  Ryan: Hypnosis?
• 28:18
  Kearns: gimps?
• 28:18
  What, like in Fright Night, what is it that he does?
• 28:22
  He d- well, he does charm people.
• 28:25
  I'm not
• 28:26
  Jon: You gu- you guys,
• 28:27
  Kearns: guess
• 28:28
  Jon: yeah, you guys are nowhere near
• 28:31
  Kearns: Okay, we're gonna, we're gonna just keep rolling along.
• 28:33
  I'm gonna have to s- how do I slash Hellraiser?
• 28:38
  I only have two left, and we have, like, s- what, five movies left?
• 28:42
  Jon: Five after this.
• 28:42
  Yep, and I know where it goes.
• 28:44
  It's gonna get real rough
• 28:46
  Kearns: Yeah, I'm gonna have to slash Hellraiser.
• 28:47
  I like Hellraiser, but I'm not like you guys.
• 28:50
  I don't like, like Hellraiser.
• 28:55
  Jon: All right.
• 28:57
  Number four, which unless Ryan guesses right, he has to
• 29:01
  slash, is House of 1000 Corpses
• 29:04
  Kearns: That's an easy slash
• 29:05
  Ryan: That's-- yeah, that's a slash.
• 29:07
  I
• 29:08
  Kearns: I hate Rob Zombie
• 29:10
  Ryan: I just…
• 29:11
  Kearns: anyway
• 29:12
  Ryan: Halloween, I'll have a flag for Halloween, but everything else I can't.
• 29:17
  I, I-- I'm-- Lore's a Salem
• 29:20
  Jon: Uh,
• 29:20
  Ryan: Well, does it now?
• 29:22
  Jon: uh, they all sort of
• 29:26
  fall short.
• 29:28
  Like they have things that almost work, but ultimately he falls short every time.
• 29:35
  I think,
• 29:36
  Kearns: Hands
• 29:36
  Jon: Devil's Rejects is as close as he got for me
• 29:39
  Kearns: And that one I, I tried to walk out of, but I was there with
• 29:41
  a friend, so I had to, to it out.
• 29:46
  Devil's Rejects
• 29:47
  Ryan: Are these,
• 29:47
  Kearns: it
• 29:47
  Ryan: are these career changers?
• 29:51
  Jon: You're closer.
• 29:52
  You're closer.
• 29:57
  All right, next
• 29:59
  Kearns: start barking them out to just get your last stash.
• 30:03
  Ryan: He gave me the
• 30:04
  Jon: Number five,
• 30:05
  Kearns: stash
• 30:06
  Jon: of the Living Dead
• 30:10
  Kearns: Absolutely stashing Night of the Living Dead
• 30:13
  Jon: Good gosh, Ryan.
• 30:15
  Kearns: It sucks, buddy.
• 30:17
  Jon: Sorry, man
• 30:17
  Kearns: never watch this again
• 30:20
  Jon: Or Annie Romero.
• 30:21
  Ryan: a lie.
• 30:22
  Kearns: Or
• 30:23
  Jon: Or A- Annie Romero, you, you have to send that Day of the Dead set back.
• 30:28
  Ryan: Yeah,
• 30:29
  Jon: doesn't exist anymore.
• 30:30
  Ryan: That's not happening
• 30:31
  Kearns: we actually had to not watch these until we somehow
• 30:34
  made it right on another game?
• 30:37
  That'd be kinda cool.
• 30:38
  Ryan: Yeah, don't do that.
• 30:39
  Don't
• 30:39
  Kearns: No, we
• 30:40
  Ryan: don't, don't do that.
• 30:41
  Kearns: that
• 30:41
  Ryan: I got a lot I gotta watch here, man.
• 30:44
  Jon: Oh, not Night of Living Dead 'cause it doesn't exist in your world anymore
• 30:48
  Kearns: not gonna happen for you
• 30:49
  Ryan: Hey, listen, time travel
• 30:51
  Jon: this is gonna get more painful for him too.
• 30:55
  All right, next movie.
• 30:57
  Kearns: Oh, they have one left
• 30:58
  Jon: Texas Chainsaw Massacre
• 31:00
  Kearns: Ooh, this
• 31:01
  Ryan: Harris
• 31:02
  Kearns: This one's bait.
• 31:03
  I think I already slashed this once
• 31:05
  Jon: I think you may have
• 31:06
  Ryan: she did
• 31:07
  Kearns: so I'm gonna have to do it again just because it's the least risky.
• 31:11
  But I love this movie.
• 31:13
  fact that John does this to us is torturous
• 31:17
  Jon: Well, do you have a guess at the, at the theme?
• 31:20
  Kearns: Nope.
• 31:21
  I'm not losing
• 31:22
  Jon: I said,
• 31:23
  Kearns: buddy.
• 31:24
  Jon: I say, I said bull.
• 31:26
  Bull.
• 31:27
  Ryan: Well, oh, no, I, I'm trying.
• 31:29
  I'm trying to think, like, 'cause you said career change, but I can't, like
• 31:34
  Jon: I mean, your, y- y- your career changes in the, you are at least
• 31:40
  on the right side of the camera now
• 31:43
  Ryan: Oh, um, with other motifs, other careers, musicians,
• 31:50
  Kearns: you're not
• 31:50
  Ryan: comedies.
• 31:51
  Kearns: your stash
• 31:51
  Ryan: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
• 31:54
  Don't you s- don't you start.
• 31:56
  Don't you
• 31:56
  Jon: not you.
• 31:58
  Ryan: Don't
• 31:58
  Jon: You're s- so, so close.
• 32:01
  Oh, well, next one.
• 32:03
  Last house on the left
• 32:05
  Kearns: Ooh
• 32:08
  Jon: Oh, is this eight?
• 32:09
  Kearns: one, is it?
• 32:11
  We have
• 32:11
  Jon: No, there, I believe there's one more.
• 32:14
  Yes, one more.
• 32:16
  Kearns: Una más
• 32:16
  Jon: Last house on the left.
• 32:18
  Sorry, Ryan
• 32:22
  Ryan: There's gotta be a way to reset this damn universe
• 32:25
  Jon: There go, there goes, there goes
• 32:28
  Kearns: probably with
• 32:29
  Jon: the in…
• 32:30
  Ryan: He
• 32:31
  Jon: Every, every single Wes Craven movie is gone for you now
• 32:38
  Kearns: We should do that every season when it resets
• 32:40
  Ryan: Thank you.
• 32:40
  Jon: Yeah, we might have to, 'cause Ryan's not gonna have
• 32:43
  any of his favorite things left
• 32:45
  Kearns: Nope,
• 32:45
  Ryan: to God, you put John Carpenter at the end.
• 32:49
  Don't you do it.
• 32:50
  Don't you-
• 32:52
  Kearns: believe this movie had a theatrical release.
• 32:54
  Ryan: Not that big.
• 32:56
  Not that big though, but
• 32:57
  Kearns: No, I
• 32:58
  Jon: It's just like
• 32:58
  Kearns: the rumors got out
• 32:59
  Jon: Is this a slash for you too, Kearns?
• 33:02
  Kearns: Yeah, I gotta slash it 'cause
• 33:05
  see what you got
• 33:06
  Ryan: this is one of the
• 33:07
  Jon: All right
• 33:07
  Ryan: a while
• 33:10
  Jon: I mean, you haven't had to make a decision in, like, five movies, man.
• 33:13
  Kearns: Yeah, it's
• 33:14
  Ryan: I know that's, that's, that's the problem.
• 33:17
  The problem.
• 33:18
  I, I
• 33:19
  Jon: Last one.
• 33:21
  Sorry, Ryan.
• 33:23
  Kearns: Nice.
• 33:24
  I made the right choice here.
• 33:26
  Stash, please.
• 33:27
  All right, so what's going on
• 33:29
  Ryan: Directors who retired
• 33:32
  Kearns: Right?
• 33:33
  is
• 33:34
  Jon: have
• 33:34
  Kearns: too though, but at least like… Yeah, I guess they all
• 33:37
  kind of have that theme anyway
• 33:38
  Jon: You got, so close there eventually.
• 33:42
  These are directorial debuts
• 33:45
  Kearns: 好。
• 33:46
  Ryan: Oh, sh- Nikes
• 33:49
  Kearns: r- it was too simple.
• 33:51
  Jon: Yep, it was right there the whole time
• 33:53
  Kearns: Yeah, that one was teed up for you
• 33:57
  Jon: Was right there the whole time.
• 33:59
  Ryan: It's fine.
• 34:00
  You know what?
• 34:00
  I, I kept Hellraiser
• 34:02
  Jon: I like that one
• 34:03
  Kearns: It was fun to watch everybody squirm
• 34:05
  Jon: Yeah, I mean, you get to watch the other three Clive Barker movies
• 34:09
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 34:10
  Ryan: Nice breed
• 34:12
  Kearns: right
• 34:13
  Ryan: He didn't, direct or write, Hellraiser Two though.
• 34:16
  I always thought he did.
• 34:17
  He didn't do that.
• 34:18
  produced it.
• 34:19
  He produced.
• 34:20
  Jon: Lord of Illusions
• 34:21
  Ryan: Yeah
• 34:22
  Kearns: Going to get a little money to get lazy.
• 34:24
  Jon: There's… Mm-hmm.
• 34:25
  Kearns: on these
• 34:28
  Jon: Yep.
• 34:29
  Kearns: produce it.
• 34:30
  Jon: Yep
• 34:31
  Kearns: why Bear is a giant cuck in this movie.
• 34:35
  Let's just get right back into obsession.
• 34:37
  It's the most aggravating part of the movie for me is that he has every
• 34:40
  opportunity to talk to her, and he does this squeamish, weenie sort of,
• 34:44
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 34:46
  Mm-hmm.
• 34:49
  Mm-hmm.
• 34:50
  Kearns: it pervades his personality for so long
• 34:54
  Jon: Yeah, that is his personality.
• 34:56
  He's ineffective.
• 34:59
  He is largely incapable.
• 35:01
  I mean, you meet Nikki and she has dreams.
• 35:04
  She wants to write.
• 35:05
  She's g- you know, she's got… And Bear's just there
• 35:11
  Kearns: He's a lame-o.
• 35:12
  Ryan: He's comfortable, if you can say it
• 35:15
  Kearns: Yeah, that's like, that's how you describe him in being happy
• 35:18
  with his job and stuff like that.
• 35:20
  Like, he doesn't want money, he wants Nikki.
• 35:23
  And I agree, he's definitely comfortable there.
• 35:24
  But the, aspect of his personality where he can't do anything that's
• 35:27
  difficult or scary is s- especially as pertains to her, sucks so hard.
• 35:33
  Even when she's Freaky Nikki and he's trying to figure out how to deal with it,
• 35:37
  the way he deals with it is just awful
• 35:41
  Ryan: It's, he's very socially awkward, as we keep saying.
• 35:45
  Um, it just, he doesn't-
• 35:46
  Kearns: giving him outs.
• 35:47
  You're giving him
• 35:48
  Jon: Yeah.
• 35:49
  Ryan: Well,
• 35:49
  Jon: Yeah, you are
• 35:50
  Ryan: not, it's
• 35:51
  Kearns: like it.
• 35:51
  Ryan: not… Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 35:54
  He's definitely not a nice guy.
• 35:55
  I f- this is the first time watching a film in a while that
• 35:59
  I disliked the main character.
• 36:01
  I don't like Bear.
• 36:03
  Uh, from the start, you kinda, like I- we said, you kinda feel like, "Oh, okay."
• 36:07
  But then once you see the cat death, the negligence,
• 36:10
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 36:14
  Ryan: I can say,
• 36:15
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 36:16
  Ryan: just making
• 36:17
  Jon: So
• 36:17
  Ryan: worse, it's just like, fuck, man.
• 36:21
  Jon: Yeah, and he, and I mean, how long is it from when he has the realization,
• 36:26
  "Okay, this is the wish. I don't even know if she actually loves me or if she
• 36:31
  loves me because I wished for this," to calling the company, the One Wish Willow
• 36:40
  company, to ask about it, to then not act on that until it gets really bad?
• 36:48
  Kearns: That would have definitely red flagged for me.
• 36:50
  Even denial wouldn't have been enough to make me ignore that.
• 36:52
  Ryan: Yeah
• 36:53
  Jon: Yeah.
• 36:53
  he's given outs for a while.
• 36:57
  even as she's getting progressively crazier and more dangerous, and
• 37:06
  he's clearly not comfortable with it, he's still going with it
• 37:11
  Kearns: Yep.
• 37:11
  'Cause he doesn't wanna lose it.
• 37:13
  Ryan: Yep
• 37:13
  Kearns: He didn't even see it and he's very uncomfortable with it,
• 37:16
  and they, they make sure to put in a scene where he's sleeping with her
• 37:19
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 37:20
  Kearns: "Yep, don't forget what's keeping him
• 37:21
  Ryan: And that
• 37:22
  Jon: Ja
• 37:22
  Ryan: that was uncomfortable too.
• 37:24
  Just, just uncomfortable.
• 37:26
  Like the whole
• 37:27
  Jon: Well,
• 37:27
  Kearns: it perfectly for that.
• 37:28
  Jon: yeah, I, I mean, any concept of them being sexual together is uncomfortable
• 37:37
  because it's not exactly consensual
• 37:41
  Ryan: No
• 37:42
  Kearns: Yeah, no.
• 37:44
  That
• 37:44
  Jon: She, she has no free will,
• 37:47
  Kearns: It's as much consent as
• 37:48
  Jon: l-
• 37:49
  Kearns: Roomba can give you
• 37:50
  Jon: limited free will, I guess, is, you know, like there are flashes where
• 37:56
  she's still herself, but, you know, for the most part, she's just obsessed.
• 38:01
  She's…
• 38:03
  Her whole life… I mean, to the point where you get later in the movie and when
• 38:07
  she's fully, fully under the wish, when he, when Bear leaves to go to work, and
• 38:13
  he comes back and she is exactly where she was when he left, having wet herself
• 38:21
  and vomited and just stuck in that spot.
• 38:25
  Like her, her being stopped existing for the hours that he was at work
• 38:31
  Kearns: Right, 'cause he told her to stay there.
• 38:33
  Jon: Yeah
• 38:33
  Kearns: literally said to her, "Stay right there," and she, she took that seriously.
• 38:38
  uh, it makes me wonder though too, because he gives her directives
• 38:41
  throughout the movie, she
• 38:43
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 38:43
  Kearns: them nearly as literally as that.
• 38:45
  So that kind of bugged me a little bit as far as continuity is concerned,
• 38:48
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 38:49
  Well, yeah, I mean, there's that, but It does really more to me feel like
• 38:54
  it's, she's at, by that point she can't function without him being around
• 39:01
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 39:02
  Ryan: feel like that, that's as it continues, I'm presuming.
• 39:05
  It just gets worse and worse, and it just multiplies.
• 39:09
  And I feel like,
• 39:10
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 39:11
  Ryan: like she's in-- Or as, um, he said, she's in this purgatory.
• 39:16
  as the wish is continuing, she's just gonna be out of
• 39:19
  existence, I feel, eventually.
• 39:22
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 39:22
  Ryan: If that makes sense, like just
• 39:25
  Jon: mean
• 39:25
  Kearns: she's slowly eroding?
• 39:28
  Jon: Well, yeah, I mean, I think it's at that point that you really
• 39:32
  recognize how poorly this is gonna end for everybody involved.
• 39:39
  There's n- there's no getting out from there, you know?
• 39:43
  Ryan: ending
• 39:44
  Kearns: though every wish is necessarily evil.
• 39:46
  When Ian wishes for a billion dollars and it starts falling
• 39:49
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 39:50
  Kearns: um, it doesn't seem as though, like, that was meant to be malicious
• 39:53
  Jon: So that, that's something that I've seen Curry Barker say, is that
• 39:58
  One Wish Willow is not implicitly evil.
• 40:02
  It's that how poorly Bear worded his wish
• 40:07
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 40:08
  Good point.
• 40:10
  he screws it up big time.
• 40:11
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 40:12
  Kearns: that annoys me the most about him that he has an opportunity, and
• 40:17
  I think they did this on purpose.
• 40:18
  In the car prior to snapping that one wish willow, pres- asks
• 40:23
  him, "Do you like me?" And it
• 40:26
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 40:27
  Mm-hmm.
• 40:29
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 40:30
  Kearns: there
• 40:30
  Ryan: That
• 40:30
  Jon: And, and
• 40:31
  Ryan: I think
• 40:32
  Jon: yeah, and she-
• 40:34
  Kearns: for it to be too
• 40:35
  Jon: Uh, like sh- I think she know.
• 40:36
  I mean, when you find out later on that she and Ian have been doing it
• 40:42
  off and on for a couple years, you sort of start to wonder how much
• 40:46
  else was going on with her and Ian.
• 40:49
  Did, like, did Ian tell her?
• 40:51
  Like, is she expecting this at some point?
• 40:55
  Ryan: Definitely did.
• 40:55
  Kearns: like that kind
• 40:56
  Ryan: Yeah
• 40:57
  Jon: And like, she, she gives him a couple of signals there that like, "Go
• 41:03
  ahead and shoot your shot, man." She's like, "Well, if there was someone I
• 41:08
  liked, nobody would know." You know, like that sort, that's sort of that coy
• 41:14
  po- maybe coy, maybe, you know, just directed disinterest, but… And then,
• 41:21
  you know, straight out, "Do you like me?"
• 41:23
  And he doesn't take either opportunity
• 41:26
  Ryan: But she pushes Sarah
• 41:28
  Kearns: that nice guys too never pick up on
• 41:30
  Ryan: But she pushes Sarah on him though in that scene too, 'cause she says
• 41:36
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 41:38
  Mm-hmm.
• 41:40
  Sarah definitely does like him
• 41:42
  Kearns: Yeah, and it's, uh, keeping Nikki from sort of getting there too maybe.
• 41:47
  Like, "I can't do that.
• 41:48
  My friend would be mad
• 41:49
  Jon: Mm-hmm,
• 41:50
  Kearns: thing.
• 41:50
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 41:51
  Kearns: characters are tangled in a weird way
• 41:53
  Jon: but, Sarah's also very well aware of how Bear feels about Nikki too.
• 41:59
  So like I don't… I mean, I'm sure she would've been hurt by that, but I think
• 42:07
  she kinda would've been understanding that, hey, this is just what it is.
• 42:12
  This was what he wanted, not he didn't want me, which is
• 42:16
  what Bear can't get past.
• 42:17
  Bear can't get past that, well, maybe she doesn't like me, and
• 42:21
  then, you know, he puts it in a situation where she can't not like him
• 42:25
  Kearns: That makes sense.
• 42:27
  All right.
• 42:28
  this kind of pushes Nikki into the sympathetic character area
• 42:31
  too, 'cause we don't care about Bear, we don't care about Ian.
• 42:35
  Kinda care about Sarah.
• 42:36
  She's probably my
• 42:36
  Jon: I cared about, I liked Sarah too.
• 42:38
  Yeah, I liked Sarah a lot.
• 42:40
  Kearns: mean,
• 42:40
  Jon: She's
• 42:41
  Kearns: be a good time to bring up the NC-17 aspect.
• 42:43
  We definitely watched the NC-17 version of this
• 42:45
  Ryan: Yeah, we did
• 42:47
  Kearns: if you guys aren't aware that there are two versions, well, you'll find
• 42:50
  out if you watch what happens to Sarah
• 42:53
  Ryan: That, that brick?
• 42:54
  Jon: Oof.
• 42:57
  Kearns: It's the brick is part of it, but
• 42:59
  Ryan: I
• 42:59
  Kearns: it's the 15 smashes of her face into the steering wheel to finish her off
• 43:04
  Jon: Uh-huh.
• 43:05
  Ryan: keeper.
• 43:06
  I'm ju-
• 43:07
  Kearns: That's the
• 43:08
  Jon: Make, make, making her look like what really doubled for her
• 43:13
  in that scene, which is a sex doll
• 43:17
  Kearns: Oh, that makes sense.
• 43:19
  Jon: So by the,
• 43:20
  Kearns: the bass
• 43:21
  Jon: yeah, by the end, that's really what the face looks like
• 43:25
  is a deflated sex doll head.
• 43:30
  And like, again, a-
• 43:31
  Kearns: with that
• 43:34
  Jon: Now it becomes an issue for Bear to actually do something, but, you know, he
• 43:39
  had previously called one Wish Willow and had been told, you know, death or, you
• 43:46
  know, contradict the wish, but it's death.
• 43:48
  This is till death.
• 43:50
  Kearns: very interesting too, 'cause he was like, he was, he- I don't think he
• 43:52
  had an easy time processing any of this
• 43:55
  Jon: No.
• 43:56
  No
• 43:58
  Kearns: I guess it's not that easy to process either, but
• 44:01
  Ryan: I mean, when you think something's not gonna happen and it does, I mean
• 44:07
  It's a curveball,
• 44:09
  Kearns: Choo,
• 44:09
  Ryan: especially when it's everything you want in every wrong possible way
• 44:14
  Kearns: Before we
• 44:14
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 44:14
  Kearns: too far into the One Wish Willow though, I want to wrap up Nikki.
• 44:17
  we realize that she's in there earlier than the bed scene.
• 44:22
  Jon: Yeah.
• 44:22
  Kearns: of her earlier
• 44:23
  Ryan: Yes
• 44:24
  Kearns: well,
• 44:25
  Jon: There's one in…
• 44:26
  Kearns: she's in pain
• 44:28
  Jon: And there's one in the restaurant when he asks her about
• 44:31
  whether her dad really has cancer, and, supposedly when she says no,
• 44:36
  that's real Nikki coming through
• 44:39
  Ryan: Mm-hmm.
• 44:39
  Kearns: Ooh, I didn't pick up on that.
• 44:41
  That's a good one.
• 44:42
  Jon: But,
• 44:44
  Kearns: That
• 44:44
  Jon: you know, there's
• 44:45
  Ryan: Is,
• 44:45
  Kearns: me PTSD
• 44:47
  Ryan: with the…
• 44:48
  Kearns: making a scene.
• 44:49
  Ryan: that.
• 44:50
  Okay.
• 44:51
  That's
• 44:51
  Jon: Yep.
• 44:52
  Ryan: scene, right?
• 44:53
  Kearns: that.
• 44:54
  No.
• 44:55
  Jon: No
• 44:56
  Ryan: That's later
• 44:57
  Kearns: That's different.
• 44:58
  This isn't violent.
• 44:58
  All the stuff she does that's not violent is the stuff that freaked me out
• 45:02
  Jon: Yeah.
• 45:04
  Yeah, she, she, the, her nonviolent reactions are way
• 45:09
  worse than her, the violence
• 45:12
  Kearns: Hyper needy, clingy thing
• 45:14
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 45:14
  Kearns: is really super scary.
• 45:17
  Super scary
• 45:19
  Jon: Yeah
• 45:19
  Ryan: I never experienced that, so I mean, like, the reality of seeing
• 45:22
  it from, like, an outsider's point of view, the reality is scary.
• 45:27
  But I feel like if you were a part of it, you're gonna have some PTSD moments.
• 45:32
  Sorry, guys.
• 45:33
  Kearns: run.
• 45:34
  it's just, it's-- they, she tapped into something that a lot of people
• 45:38
  will identify with from both sides.
• 45:40
  I'm sure there are people who when they were younger, they behaved that way with
• 45:43
  a few p- different people too, and they look back and they're cringey, sort of
• 45:49
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 45:49
  Kearns: back on it.
• 45:50
  But she nails that, and then they m- when they blend that into the weird, and then
• 45:55
  they blend the weird into the psychotic, that's kinda where this movie shines.
• 45:59
  And Nikki, the actress who plays Nikki, without her, I don't
• 46:02
  think you pull any of that off
• 46:04
  Jon: No, she, uh, she's incredible in this role.
• 46:09
  Indy Nevrett
• 46:10
  Ryan: Recently?
• 46:11
  Kearns: Amber.
• 46:11
  Ryan: Okay
• 46:12
  Jon: Indie, yeah.
• 46:13
  Kearns: cool name
• 46:15
  Jon: Mm-hmm
• 46:17
  Ryan: Dun
• 46:18
  Jon: Yeah, she, it, she, she's really good in this.
• 46:22
  She's probably the strongest performance, probably, not even probably, easily
• 46:29
  the strongest performance in this
• 46:31
  Kearns: I don't know.
• 46:32
  Andy Richter did a pretty good job.
• 46:35
  Ryan: Was he the center of the universe?
• 46:37
  Kearns: Uh, he was the center
• 46:39
  Jon: So,
• 46:39
  Kearns: record store
• 46:41
  Jon: so that was supposed to be played by the guy who actually owns the music
• 46:46
  store, but he didn't wanna say the curse and asked if they could change
• 46:51
  the line, and Curry Barker told him no.
• 46:54
  So they had to cast an actual actor
• 46:58
  Kearns: What was the curse?
• 46:59
  The specific curse
• 47:00
  Jon: I don't remember what it was, but it's just the guy, I guess, I guess, I
• 47:05
  guess he's the guy who doesn't curse, so
• 47:07
  Kearns: Didn't remember it.
• 47:08
  Oh, dude,
• 47:09
  Ryan: That's understandable
• 47:11
  Jon: people who don't curse bother me
• 47:13
  Ryan: That
• 47:13
  Kearns: Yes, it's a word,
• 47:15
  Ryan: I, it is.
• 47:16
  It's, you
• 47:17
  Jon: Like
• 47:17
  Kearns: long
• 47:18
  Jon: if you
• 47:18
  Kearns: of the Necro Comic-Con,
• 47:20
  Ryan: necro.
• 47:20
  Hey, hey, don't mess with the necro Comic Con.
• 47:23
  Kearns: I stole it from you.
• 47:24
  Copyright.
• 47:24
  Ryan: It's like noir.
• 47:26
  Kearns: No.
• 47:27
  Yeah, no, that's just, that's
• 47:28
  Ryan: Noir.
• 47:28
  Noir.
• 47:29
  Kearns: You're gonna keep that forever.
• 47:30
  Ryan: Noir.
• 47:31
  Jon: No.
• 47:31
  No
• 47:32
  Kearns: It's like Christopher Walken adjacent, but not cool.
• 47:36
  Jon: And it's, it's a, it's also a little Bruce Lee too.
• 47:40
  Kearns: The wild.
• 47:41
  Jon: "Nyah.
• 47:41
  Ryan: Wah.
• 47:42
  Jon: Nyah."
• 47:42
  Kearns: Um,
• 47:43
  Ryan: No wah
• 47:43
  Kearns: it's a good opportunity for us to segue into like… 'Cause the
• 47:46
  most interesting part of the movie is the one-wish Willow, 'cause that's
• 47:49
  the stuff he can keep talking about.
• 47:52
  realize that Bare goes and buys two more
• 47:56
  Ryan: Yes.
• 47:56
  Jon: he buys the last two
• 47:58
  Ryan: Yep
• 47:58
  Kearns: He gets the last two, which is smart.
• 48:00
  But they're still, the price point of them, by the way, is
• 48:02
  hilarious that they're just out there for $6.99 or something.
• 48:06
  He gets the
• 48:07
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 48:07
  Kearns: two.
• 48:08
  Ian obviously wastes one because he's dumbass.
• 48:11
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 48:11
  Well, I mean, he, he, yeah, he, he wastes it because he does… Like,
• 48:16
  how ridiculous is this story that Bear is coming to him with after, you
• 48:21
  know, however much time has elapsed?
• 48:23
  Yeah, covered in blood and like
• 48:26
  Kearns: talk to him a little bit more closely than just being like,
• 48:28
  "Dude, what's wrong?" sort of thing.
• 48:31
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 48:32
  Kearns: I would snap the thing and be like, "I wish for your wish to
• 48:34
  not be a wish anymore." And then, you know, it wouldn't hurt anything.
• 48:40
  Jon: I don't know.
• 48:41
  I, might snap it and wish that the cops were here to handle this situation
• 48:46
  Kearns: That would be hilarious.
• 48:48
  I wonder what happened when they went to his house eventually and saw the
• 48:52
  billion dollars in his living room.
• 48:53
  Like, how do you even explain that?
• 48:57
  There's no way to explain
• 48:58
  Jon: I mean, there, are two houses that things are gonna
• 49:01
  be very difficult to explain in
• 49:04
  Kearns: Yeah, you'd have to burn most of that because you can't use it.
• 49:07
  You'd have to launder it.
• 49:09
  The government would wonder where you got a billion dollars
• 49:13
  Jon: Yeah.
• 49:14
  Yeah.
• 49:14
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 49:16
  Kearns: Yeah, that's
• 49:17
  Jon: I w-
• 49:18
  Kearns: could
• 49:18
  Jon: I wished
• 49:19
  Kearns: could that one.
• 49:23
  Jon: The tax complications around wishing for a billion dollars and receiving it.
• 49:29
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 49:30
  Jon: That's, yeah, that's a
• 49:32
  Kearns: Give me a multinational conglomerate corporation that
• 49:35
  brings in… Like, you'd have to, like, really word it properly.
• 49:39
  Jon: X free billion.
• 49:40
  Kearns: But the One Wish Willow could pull it off if you worded it properly.
• 49:43
  That's
• 49:44
  Jon: Yeah.
• 49:45
  Yep.
• 49:45
  Kearns: outright
• 49:46
  Jon: Yep
• 49:47
  Kearns: Um, One Wish Willow creeps me out for a couple reasons.
• 49:50
  Wish Willow, as we already said, is not inherently evil.
• 49:53
  The owner of the shop that sells them is fully aware of what they do.
• 49:59
  Used that wish, and he still works in his shop, which is another interesting thing.
• 50:02
  So he didn't wish for grand wealth or anything.
• 50:04
  I wonder what he wished for.
• 50:05
  But he's also very cavalier about what
• 50:08
  Jon: Yeah
• 50:09
  Kearns: Bear's problem is, looks like a very significant one,
• 50:12
  and he's very cavalier about it.
• 50:14
  He's like, "Wow, what'd you wish for?" And
• 50:15
  Jon: Yeah.
• 50:16
  Kearns: the scary voice when he calls the One Wish Willow hotline, and also
• 50:21
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 50:21
  Kearns: screaming in the background
• 50:23
  Jon: Mm-hmm
• 50:23
  Kearns: you that that's not in our plane of existence
• 50:26
  Ryan: No
• 50:26
  Kearns: out to.
• 50:28
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 50:28
  Kearns: kinda
• 50:28
  Jon: And that, and that voice on the phone is Curry Barker
• 50:33
  Kearns: Which is kind of neat.
• 50:35
  That is kind of neat.
• 50:37
  So what about the, what is the One Wish Willow, and do you think it
• 50:40
  will spur on a sequel to this film?
• 50:44
  Ryan: It,
• 50:45
  Jon: it could.
• 50:46
  Ryan: can
• 50:46
  Jon: It won't be, his next movie.
• 50:49
  his next movie, I don't remember what it's gonna be called, but,
• 50:53
  Ryan: ghosts
• 50:54
  Jon: okay, yeah, and it's gonna be in this universe,
• 50:58
  Ryan: Ooh
• 50:58
  Kearns: Okay
• 50:59
  Jon: but it's not because of… I guess there's going to be like a part in
• 51:04
  that where the TV is on and there's a news report about the end of Obsession
• 51:11
  Ryan: Okay.
• 51:13
  cool
• 51:13
  Kearns: actually might be helpful.
• 51:14
  I'd like to know a little bit more about h- what happens to Nikki after they
• 51:18
  find the many murders that have taken
• 51:21
  Ryan: maybe an
• 51:22
  Jon: Well,
• 51:22
  Ryan: trilogy or a sequel.
• 51:24
  Jon: maybe.
• 51:26
  Ryan: I know he's
• 51:26
  Jon: Maybe
• 51:27
  Ryan: reboot too.
• 51:30
  You didn't hear about that?
• 51:31
  Jon: What's he rebooting?
• 51:33
  Ryan: It was on our, uh, Slasher Stash tonight.
• 51:37
  Texas Chainsaw Massacre
• 51:40
  Kearns: Don't do
• 51:41
  Jon: I don't know if… Yeah, I don't, I don't think, I
• 51:43
  don't want him to do that yet
• 51:45
  Ryan: He's had talks, he's had interest, and he wants to,
• 51:48
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 51:49
  Ryan: I mean
• 51:49
  Kearns: a good idea.
• 51:50
  No,
• 51:51
  Jon: Yeah, let,
• 51:51
  Kearns: Every
• 51:52
  Jon: let,
• 51:52
  Kearns: do that, it's like, eh
• 51:54
  Jon: yeah.
• 51:54
  Let, let's, let's build your own stuff first and go from there.
• 51:59
  He, 'cause he's really
• 52:01
  Kearns: We're moving away from them finally too.
• 52:03
  Sorry to
• 52:04
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 52:04
  Kearns: and I'd like to keep moving away from them
• 52:06
  Jon: Yeah.
• 52:07
  But Curry Barker h- with Obsession has really positioned himself
• 52:13
  to do what he wants to do and do original things for a while now.
• 52:19
  With how successful this is, $800,000 budget.
• 52:23
  the
• 52:24
  Kearns: That's
• 52:24
  Jon: film-- The company bought it for 15 million.
• 52:27
  it's made more than Sinners now.
• 52:29
  It's over $250
• 52:36
  million in the US.
• 52:36
  Like, so he's put himself immediately in a spot where he doesn't have to do
• 52:39
  Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and he doesn't have to do somebody else's property.
• 52:45
  I would be more interested in him going back to his own shorts
• 52:49
  and expanding those than to see him reboot an existing property.
• 52:53
  Ryan: I agree with that,
• 52:54
  Jon: I don't know if either of you guys watched any of his
• 52:57
  other stuff, any of the shorts.
• 52:59
  I watched two of them today.
• 53:02
  The Chair I really, really liked.
• 53:04
  I would definitely recommend hopping on YouTube and watching The Chair.
• 53:09
  The other one, Milk and Cereal, I didn't like as much.
• 53:12
  it's found footage, so that's a strike against it.
• 53:15
  I, you know, found footage is a tough sell for me.
• 53:18
  his creative partner is Cooper Tomlinson, who plays Ian, and you can see Tomlinson's
• 53:26
  a little limited as an actor still.
• 53:28
  I think he can grow into something, and Curry Barker's not a particularly good
• 53:34
  actor either, and they're the two stars of Milk and Cereal, and I think that's
• 53:40
  kind of another way it falls flat for me is they're just not great at it.
• 53:47
  Ryan: The costume's
• 53:47
  Jon: story's,
• 53:48
  Kearns: enough
• 53:48
  Jon: the story, the story's interesting.
• 53:50
  There's a lot of interesting things around Milk and Cereal.
• 53:53
  I'd, like I, I'd be interested in seeing him redo that with, you know,
• 53:59
  the level cast he had f- for Obsession.
• 54:03
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 54:05
  Fair enough
• 54:06
  Ryan: His costume was cool though, the main killer, uh, wears.
• 54:10
  From
• 54:10
  Jon: Yeah
• 54:11
  Ryan: 'cause I put it on my list to watch 'cause the, the mask and the outfit got
• 54:16
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 54:17
  I, I would, I would definitely do the chair first.
• 54:20
  The chair is, to me, significantly better.
• 54:24
  It's scarier.
• 54:25
  It's…
• 54:26
  Kearns: is good
• 54:27
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 54:28
  Mm-hmm.
• 54:29
  Yep
• 54:29
  Kearns: domicile and they make that unsafe and that,
• 54:33
  Jon: Yeah
• 54:33
  Kearns: kinda on their heels.
• 54:35
  So the chair, the chair is weird It's good
• 54:38
  Jon: It is.
• 54:39
  It is.
• 54:40
  Yeah, it probably will take a few watches to fully figure out.
• 54:46
  You know, there's some weird jumps in it and some stuff
• 54:48
  that's like, "Wait a minute.
• 54:50
  Kearns: Yeah, don't,
• 54:51
  Jon: Wait, w-
• 54:51
  Kearns: up, like, all the beats and get explanations.
• 54:54
  Watch it and figure it out for yourself.
• 54:56
  That's
• 54:56
  Jon: Yeah.
• 54:57
  Yeah.
• 54:58
  Ryan: me and my
• 54:58
  Jon: Definitely.
• 54:59
  Ryan: it
• 55:01
  Jon: Definitely.
• 55:02
  Definitely
• 55:03
  Kearns: I give one and a half stars to your mustache.
• 55:05
  Ryan: a lie, you know it.
• 55:07
  a lie
• 55:07
  Jon: So do you wa- do you wanna, do you wanna, do you wanna quickly cover the end
• 55:13
  of Obsession before we jump to reviews?
• 55:15
  Ryan: Yes.
• 55:16
  Kearns: bottom of Mr. Yeah, we can cover the end of the movie.
• 55:18
  Let's do it, John
• 55:21
  Jon: So,
• 55:23
  Kearns: Damn it
• 55:23
  Jon: he comes back, he comes back home with his one remaining one wish willow
• 55:28
  that he gives to Nikki, and Nikki's really freaking out still, and it's really bad.
• 55:33
  She's full freaky Nikki now.
• 55:35
  And Bear decides finally there's one way, one real way to end
• 55:42
  this, and he goes in the bathroom and, you know, he drops the…
• 55:48
  He puts down his bottle of Oxys.
• 55:51
  Kearns: Hmm.
• 55:51
  Jon: But e- even in that, he's unsure and incapable because he almost
• 55:59
  immediately tries to make himself vomit
• 56:02
  Kearns: Right.
• 56:02
  Well, he also attempted a much more grisly way to do it earlier with
• 56:06
  Jon: Yeah.
• 56:06
  Kearns: and you
• 56:07
  Jon: Yeah.
• 56:07
  Kearns: then he's like, "I'm not doing that." And then he
• 56:09
  goes for the easier route and
• 56:10
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 56:11
  Kearns: tries to puke and then snaps out of it
• 56:14
  Jon: Yep.
• 56:15
  Well, yeah, snaps out of it.
• 56:17
  Ryan: out of it
• 56:19
  Jon: Because Nicky has broken the last one wish willow.
• 56:24
  And I mean, really at the end of the… It's not the wish he wanted her to
• 56:28
  make, but it's the wish that would make this all make sense for both of them.
• 56:33
  She wishes for him to feel the same way about her,
• 56:37
  Kearns: And they probably
• 56:37
  Jon: and he come-
• 56:38
  Kearns: a way to go on with life that way.
• 56:42
  Jon: Well, I mean, you're already on double murder at that point.
• 56:45
  Kearns: Oh yeah,
• 56:45
  Jon: You're also, you're also on a double murder at that point
• 56:48
  that someone's gotta go down for
• 56:50
  Kearns: Yeah, and they're gonna go to
• 56:52
  Ryan: Well, um
• 56:53
  Jon: because they, because they've al- she's also offed Ian by now too.
• 56:57
  Kearns: In their house, in their
• 56:59
  Jon: In the house, yeah.
• 57:00
  Kearns: Yeah
• 57:00
  Jon: there's two bodies, two, two bodies and a soon-to-be overdosed Bear because he
• 57:08
  did not successfully make himself vomit, and they, they have one kiss together
• 57:14
  before, uh, as completely obsessed with one another before Bear falls and dies.
• 57:20
  And
• 57:21
  Kearns: his
• 57:21
  Jon: in his death
• 57:23
  Ryan: She wakes up
• 57:25
  Jon: She wakes up.
• 57:26
  Kearns: And will
• 57:27
  Jon: To the horror,
• 57:28
  Kearns: of the consequences.
• 57:29
  Jon: to the horror
• 57:31
  Kearns: a story that Bear did all of it and then took the easy way out.
• 57:35
  She might get away with that, but there's so many people who will attest
• 57:38
  to seeing her act like a psychopath
• 57:42
  Ryan: Yeah
• 57:42
  Kearns: like in the bar and things like
• 57:44
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 57:45
  Ryan: case is against Mary
• 57:46
  Jon: she, yeah, she had the, the bashing her head at the
• 57:49
  party, you know, a whole bunch.
• 57:52
  You know, she, she could, she could go that route with it.
• 57:56
  She could definitely… There's that, you know, the insanity plea
• 58:00
  is also probably on the table.
• 58:04
  I would, I would ima- I don't know what level of her becomes conscious
• 58:08
  of how she got to that point.
• 58:11
  But, you know, if you, if you have a good defense attorney, maybe
• 58:14
  they introduce a One Wish Willow,
• 58:17
  Kearns: Maybe.
• 58:18
  Jon: you know.
• 58:18
  And hey, judge snap and like whatever, and make somebody in the courtroom that way
• 58:27
  Kearns: It should work.
• 58:29
  Ryan: work
• 58:29
  Kearns: she's,
• 58:30
  Jon: her to, yeah, she's gonna need a really good attorney
• 58:34
  Kearns: Bear really screwed her over is the moral of the story here, kids
• 58:39
  Ryan: Yeah, they did.
• 58:40
  There's,
• 58:40
  Jon: Yep
• 58:41
  Ryan: a happy ending, and mean, but i- it's a movie that I feel we need these
• 58:48
  movies in circulation, those movies where it's like, "Ah, man, this is a
• 58:53
  rough ending," but it, like, brings the audience to a realization that
• 58:57
  life's not always, you know, happy.
• 58:59
  S- you know, there's always not the good ending.
• 59:03
  Kearns: a way
• 59:03
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 59:05
  Life's a box of chocolates
• 59:06
  Jon: No
• 59:06
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 59:07
  Let's get some reviews, guys
• 59:09
  Jon: Yeah, let's do it.
• 59:10
  Uh, so we'll start out, Rotten Tomatoes, 94% critics, 94% audience
• 59:18
  Kearns: About right
• 59:19
  Ryan: Very high
• 59:20
  Jon: Yep.
• 59:20
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 59:21
  Jon: Yep.
• 59:21
  so we'll start where we always start with five stars.
• 59:24
  Five stars for Obsession.
• 59:26
  Welp, Barker is now on my list of director-screenwriters to watch.
• 59:32
  I'm a horror buff and had low expectations.
• 59:36
  I was so wrong.
• 59:37
  This was one of the more viscerally intense horror movies that challenged
• 59:42
  what I expected at every turn.
• 59:45
  It's unpredictable, strangely funny at times, and unusually
• 59:50
  frightening at moments where most other movies would mail it in.
• 59:54
  I put this in my top 10 all time, maybe higher.
• 1:00:00
  I'm not even kidding
• 1:00:01
  Kearns: I mean, this resonated with people,
• 1:00:03
  Ryan: Yeah, that's
• 1:00:04
  Kearns: that's because of the young relationship stuff,
• 1:00:06
  people remembering their young relationships and people in them
• 1:00:11
  Jon: Yep, yep.
• 1:00:12
  And I'll, talk a little more about that when we get to my opinion,
• 1:00:16
  but I also have three low reviews.
• 1:00:19
  I, I usually only do two, but I found a one star that I had to include.
• 1:00:24
  One star for Obsession?
• 1:00:29
  "I wasn't informed that I need to bring my ID to watch the movie.
• 1:00:33
  The staff scanned my ticket prior to asking for it, so I wasn't able to get
• 1:00:38
  a refund or an exchange for my tickets.
• 1:00:41
  I wasted $31 for nothing."
• 1:00:44
  Ryan: $31
• 1:00:44
  Kearns: What the hell?
• 1:00:45
  That's one of those I'm leaving here with
• 1:00:47
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:47
  Kearns: moments, like
• 1:00:48
  Ryan: IMAX
• 1:00:49
  Kearns: style.
• 1:00:49
  If they did that to me, you're-- I'm going to the concession stand and
• 1:00:53
  grabbing 12 boxes of candy and leaving
• 1:00:56
  Jon: This, this, this would be my falling down moment
• 1:00:59
  Kearns: Yep.
• 1:01:00
  Nope, that ain't happening.
• 1:01:01
  I'm not walking out of a theater with that.
• 1:01:03
  Nope
• 1:01:05
  Jon: I'm also not going on Rotten Tomatoes and reviewing the movie
• 1:01:09
  Kearns: Yeah, fair
• 1:01:10
  Ryan: Yeah, true
• 1:01:13
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 1:01:13
  Jon: All right
• 1:01:14
  Kearns: Well, it
• 1:01:15
  Ryan: How is that dialogue?
• 1:01:15
  Kearns: operating with a full deck either,
• 1:01:17
  Jon: No.
• 1:01:18
  I mean, listen, they, he- it's pretty, should be pretty standard to understand
• 1:01:24
  if you look like you're a certain age, you should bring your ID when you're gonna
• 1:01:29
  do things that require age verification.
• 1:01:33
  I don't have to worry about these things anymore
• 1:01:35
  Kearns: No, nor do I. about you,
• 1:01:38
  Jon: Nor Bull doesn't have to.
• 1:01:40
  Not, especially not when he's Bull.
• 1:01:45
  Kearns: Yeah, just bring it over the top, buddy.
• 1:01:47
  Ryan: ready.
• 1:01:48
  Where's my hat?
• 1:01:49
  Kearns: Let's hear
• 1:01:49
  Jon: All right.
• 1:01:50
  Yes, one star.
• 1:01:52
  "I cannot remember the last time I watched such a predictable movie.
• 1:01:57
  Absolute bore.
• 1:02:00
  I don't understand why anyone would think this was good.
• 1:02:03
  Zero twists, nothing unique, and ridiculously stupid main plot point.
• 1:02:10
  Did you spend so little on the movie because you had to use most of the budget
• 1:02:14
  to pay for posi- for positive reviews?
• 1:02:18
  Acting was great though."
• 1:02:20
  Kearns: I mean, so yeah, that's a good thing to end on
• 1:02:22
  Ryan: で。
• 1:02:23
  Kearns: because it doesn't have to have a twist.
• 1:02:24
  It do- and that's what, like, M. Night Shyamalan's career
• 1:02:27
  Jon: No.
• 1:02:28
  Kearns: You don't have
• 1:02:28
  Jon: No.
• 1:02:29
  Ryan: No
• 1:02:30
  Kearns: This
• 1:02:30
  Jon: No
• 1:02:30
  Kearns: thing shined in the small work
• 1:02:33
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:02:34
  And one la- one last, 'cause we had, we had to get the half star too.
• 1:02:38
  Kearns: No
• 1:02:39
  Jon: half a star for Obsession.
• 1:02:41
  Thumbs down.
• 1:02:43
  Kearns: Ooh
• 1:02:44
  Jon: another recycled storyline filled with the predictable shock moments.
• 1:02:50
  The actors do well performing their, their roles, so credit goes to them.
• 1:02:54
  I don't know where the critics are claiming this film to be
• 1:02:57
  a unique approach, because its substance is too predictable and
• 1:03:02
  rehashed from other storylines.
• 1:03:05
  Again, the actors do their parts very well, but I personally cannot recommend
• 1:03:10
  this dumpster fire waste of time and money
• 1:03:14
  Ryan: I mean, I understand why it's a half star.
• 1:03:16
  I mean, they went pretty heavy with it.
• 1:03:18
  A dumpster fire's a little… That's, that's over the line, sir or madam
• 1:03:22
  Kearns: of these, not one of these
• 1:03:23
  Jon: I mean, yeah.
• 1:03:27
  Like I, I kind, like… Uh, so we've heard what other people think
• 1:03:35
  Kearns: Yeah, I was gonna say, let's hear what we have to think.
• 1:03:37
  Jon: What do you guys have to say?
• 1:03:39
  Kearns: Let's go Ryan first this time
• 1:03:41
  Ryan: Well, I had a hard time with it 'cause originally I was
• 1:03:45
  going between a 3.5 to a 4, but I'm gonna stick with a 3.75.
• 1:03:51
  I like the movie.
• 1:03:52
  I like how it's filmed.
• 1:03:54
  I like the story.
• 1:03:55
  I like the acting.
• 1:03:56
  I love how performs Nicky.
• 1:04:00
  I like the actor who performs Bear, but I don't like Bear, and it's
• 1:04:05
  really why I'm really stuck at a 3.75.
• 1:04:08
  Jade really pushed me up 'cause she was like, "The story was good, the film."
• 1:04:11
  And I said, "Yeah, it's good, but I hate that character so much." I just…
• 1:04:15
  Kearns: that
• 1:04:16
  Ryan: I know.
• 1:04:16
  That's what makes, that's what makes me like, like you feel it.
• 1:04:20
  Jon: I,
• 1:04:20
  Kearns: means they did a good
• 1:04:21
  Jon: oh, yeah.
• 1:04:22
  Ryan: still,
• 1:04:23
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:04:23
  Ryan: I'm still
• 1:04:24
  Jon: This, th- this is, this isn't one where you were supposed to
• 1:04:27
  hate, you were supposed to like him and you wound up hating him.
• 1:04:30
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 1:04:31
  Jon: are not supposed to like him
• 1:04:33
  Kearns: It's an inter- we gotta clip that out.
• 1:04:34
  I wanna see people throw hate at that on the, Instagram.
• 1:04:36
  There we go.
• 1:04:37
  Um, uh, I'm gonna push mine up to 4.25, uh, and it only drops
• 1:04:43
  from a 4.5 because dumb cat.
• 1:04:44
  They didn't need to do any of that with the cat.
• 1:04:47
  Uh, it, it's not a perfect movie.
• 1:04:49
  It's not a super deep movie.
• 1:04:51
  It's deep enough to make you think, though, and that's like
• 1:04:53
  one of my… Over-- To be over a four, I have to be thinking.
• 1:04:56
  just be an action dweeb thing.
• 1:04:58
  But it's not
• 1:04:58
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:05:00
  Kearns: It shines in, like I said, the small work earlier because it,
• 1:05:03
  they put the effort into the right parts of the movie to make it good.
• 1:05:08
  They
• 1:05:09
  Jon: Mm-hmm
• 1:05:09
  Kearns: it's the Nikki aspect of it that really kills it, but it's also Bear.
• 1:05:14
  I hate Bear, too, but I'm bringing my
• 1:05:16
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:05:17
  Kearns: because I hate Bear.
• 1:05:18
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:05:19
  Yeah.
• 1:05:19
  Kearns: mad at him throughout the whole movie.
• 1:05:22
  Even Ian, I really hated Ian.
• 1:05:24
  But just, it's,
• 1:05:25
  Jon: Mm-hmm
• 1:05:26
  Kearns: movie, and it's been a long time since I saw a movie that
• 1:05:27
  was this good at being a horror movie that was this enjoyable
• 1:05:31
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:05:34
  Yeah.
• 1:05:35
  So I think I'm gonna ultimately split the difference between you
• 1:05:40
  guys, and I'm gonna land at a four.
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  it would probably be a 4.5 for me, but there's a half
• 1:05:46
  point deduction for the cat.
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  I think you had- that has to be, that has to be accounted for.
• 1:05:52
  Um, and this was said, e- e- there was so much set up for me to not like
• 1:05:58
  Obsession, and I, told Allison before I started, "I am dreading watching this
• 1:06:04
  because I don't think I'm gonna like it," because you start with the level of hype
• 1:06:10
  Kearns: Yeah
• 1:06:10
  Jon: and how often across genres that falls flat for me.
• 1:06:17
  And then the Blumhouse label on it, always an issue for me
• 1:06:23
  Kearns: Oddly enough, that didn't wreck it for me
• 1:06:26
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:06:27
  And, and then,
• 1:06:28
  Kearns: too lately
• 1:06:30
  Jon: and then seeing it in like, oh, it's everybody's favorite
• 1:06:33
  movie of the year, it's the best movie of the year across genres.
• 1:06:38
  And I haven't seen enough to, to tell you exactly where Obsession would land for me.
• 1:06:44
  I know it doesn't land one because it didn't, it didn't
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  get past Bone Temple for me.
• 1:06:49
  But I d- I like what he did.
• 1:06:52
  I like what Curry Barker did a lot.
• 1:06:55
  I… Like, okay, it's not the most inventive story.
• 1:06:58
  There's all sorts of horror movies with wishes in them, but it's, it,
• 1:07:05
  it's-- the story works enough, the performances are stellar, in a world
• 1:07:12
  where horror is properly appreciated, Indian Everett should at least be
• 1:07:20
  considered for awards next year.
• 1:07:23
  Like that to me, that's an award-worthy performance.
• 1:07:26
  Ryan: Agreed
• 1:07:27
  Jon: that's where it shines.
• 1:07:28
  It shines in these performances and creating characters that, that
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  you care about one way or another.
• 1:07:34
  Because I hate Bear as much as you guys do, but I cared that I hated him.
• 1:07:40
  Like it's not just some throwaway, "I don't like this guy," whatever.
• 1:07:44
  Like I cared that I didn't like this guy, and I really thought
• 1:07:48
  about why I didn't like him.
• 1:07:50
  And I really liked Nikki.
• 1:07:52
  I really felt for Nikki as this gets deeper.
• 1:07:57
  So yeah, this is a four
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  Kearns: Nice.
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  Ryan: I feel, was gonna say to sum it up, like it's one of those films
• 1:08:04
  that I feel like if you love horror, you should at least watch it once.
• 1:08:07
  it's a watchable film to, to like,
• 1:08:09
  Jon: Yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:10
  Ryan: Like,
• 1:08:11
  Jon: yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:12
  And y- tune, tune the hype out, go in as blind as you can, which I mean is
• 1:08:18
  kind of a wasted statement after we've advised everyone to not listen right now
• 1:08:23
  Kearns: Right?
• 1:08:23
  Jon: you haven't.
• 1:08:24
  But
• 1:08:25
  Kearns: people will listen or listen to this without seeing it, though.
• 1:08:28
  There are a lot of people who've
• 1:08:29
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:08:30
  Ryan: Yeah,
• 1:08:31
  Jon: Yeah, d- but know, know as little as possible and, you know, if
• 1:08:36
  you're someone like me who's gonna be bothered by the cat, gut through it
• 1:08:43
  Kearns: True.
• 1:08:43
  Good way to
• 1:08:43
  Jon: We got through it
• 1:08:45
  Kearns: But all right, guys, you know what time it is
• 1:08:47
  Ryan: Oh, it's time for fives
• 1:08:51
  Kearns: Yeah, you're
• 1:08:51
  Jon: Top fives
• 1:08:52
  Kearns: I believe,
• 1:08:53
  Ryan: fives?
• 1:08:54
  Hold on, I got,
• 1:08:55
  Kearns: your life.
• 1:08:55
  Ryan: got some note cards here.
• 1:08:57
  Yeah, yeah, y- yeah, friggin' Jordan Peele got rid of and, what, are you leaving us?
• 1:09:05
  messed up.
• 1:09:06
  You know, got rid of Jordan Peele so, uh, it was us.
• 1:09:11
  I was really excited to talk about us tonight.
• 1:09:13
  But I'm going top five comedy to horror directors since Curry Baker got
• 1:09:18
  his start, uh, directing and writing for a sketch comedy that he created
• 1:09:23
  on YouTube called That's a Bad Idea.
• 1:09:25
  And we're gonna start off with Danny and Michael Philippou Philippou?
• 1:09:32
  I, I, ooh.
• 1:09:33
  Jon: I think that's ballpark.
• 1:09:34
  Yeah, Philippou I think.
• 1:09:35
  Ryan: Yep.
• 1:09:36
  Jon: Philippou, Philpo
• 1:09:37
  Ryan: Okay, I was a little nervous on that.
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  They're twins who have directed comedy, horror, and parodies on YouTube.
• 1:09:44
  Uh, part of their channel called RackaRacka, and
• 1:09:47
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:09:47
  Ryan: one of my favorite, uh, horror films that I can't wait to cover
• 1:09:50
  one day, and that's Bring Her Back.
• 1:09:52
  That's my number five.
• 1:09:53
  Uh, follows two step-siblings who find themselves orphaned and
• 1:09:57
  placed in the middle of an occult ritual by their new foster mother.
• 1:10:00
  You know I love this film.
• 1:10:02
  We're gonna watch it one day.
• 1:10:04
  I can't wait for Currents to have this watch again.
• 1:10:06
  It's just, just a good time.
• 1:10:09
  Lot of, lot of things getting eaten
• 1:10:11
  Jon: Yeah, it's a riot.
• 1:10:15
  Ryan: half,
• 1:10:15
  Jon: a minute
• 1:10:16
  Ryan: half the time.
• 1:10:17
  And this leads to my number four, which would've been For Us,
• 1:10:20
  but that doesn't exist anymore.
• 1:10:22
  And I followed the rules.
• 1:10:25
  Once it's deleted, it doesn't exist anymore.
• 1:10:27
  And I switched to Zach Cregger.
• 1:10:30
  We've covered a couple of his movies this year.
• 1:10:32
  He was formerly on a sketch comedy show as a writer, uh, I believe director,
• 1:10:37
  too, of The Whitest Kids U'Know.
• 1:10:38
  I know he acted, he wrote.
• 1:10:41
  I think he directed a couple.
• 1:10:42
  And I'm not gonna mention Weapons, even though I love Weapons,
• 1:10:45
  but I love Barbarian more.
• 1:10:48
  The story following a woman who rents a house on Airbnb and
• 1:10:51
  discovers a dark secret inside.
• 1:10:53
  It stars Georgina Campbell, Justin Long, and of course our favorite
• 1:10:59
  resident actor, Bill Skarsgård.
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  a hoot.
• 1:11:02
  Watch our episode.
• 1:11:03
  It's just a really good film, and he follows up with Weapons, but
• 1:11:07
  Barbarian is really he initializes his horror roots in my opinion.
• 1:11:13
  then we get to number three.
• 1:11:16
  I've never mentioned this.
• 1:11:17
  I feel like I've mentioned this, or we have mentioned it in the past,
• 1:11:20
  but I'm gonna bring it down to John Krasinski, which his fame is The
• 1:11:24
  Office, and he's directed quite a few horror films, being A Quiet Place.
• 1:11:30
  You know, the start of that franchise.
• 1:11:32
  Post-apocalyptic based on the story of him and technically his wife, Emily
• 1:11:38
  Blunt, his real-life wife, plays his wife in the film, and they survive
• 1:11:42
  during a post-apocalyptic world inhabited by blind extraterrestrial
• 1:11:47
  creatures with an acute sense of hearing.
• 1:11:49
  the opening scene will always get me, with the kid turning on the
• 1:11:54
  truck, and always the nail she gets
• 1:11:57
  Yeah.
• 1:11:58
  If you've never seen A Quiet Place, it's an awesome film.
• 1:12:01
  It was actually filmed a little bit in Pawling, which was cool.
• 1:12:05
  Um,
• 1:12:05
  Jon: Yep
• 1:12:06
  Ryan: so it's like, you know, if you're from the area, the
• 1:12:09
  Hudson Valley area and all that
• 1:12:11
  Kearns: are, by the way.
• 1:12:12
  We n- we all live in Arizona
• 1:12:14
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:12:16
  Ryan: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:12:16
  If you're in the Hudson Valley area, it's, it's cool to experience, right?
• 1:12:24
  He comes back after I mention bring her back.
• 1:12:27
  I love it.
• 1:12:28
  That's, that's my number five
• 1:12:29
  Kearns: I was close enough to hear some of that.
• 1:12:31
  You didn't need to reference it, buddy, by the way, 'cause
• 1:12:31
  we're not on camera when you're
• 1:12:32
  Ryan: Oh, yeah.
• 1:12:32
  Kearns: when you're
• 1:12:33
  Ryan: It
• 1:12:33
  Kearns: these
• 1:12:38
  Ryan: It's, we hear, we hear our echoes just like Nikki in Purgatory.
• 1:12:42
  But that leads to my number two.
• 1:12:44
  We're talking about David Gordon Green.
• 1:12:46
  Uh, David Gordon Green has directed comedy films, uh, known Pineapple Express, Your
• 1:12:52
  Highness, The Sitter, big films during 2008 to 2011 comedy, uh, college era.
• 1:12:58
  But he takes it one step up with, uh, in 2018 with Danny McBride as
• 1:13:03
  he writes the sequel to Halloween.
• 1:13:06
  And the 2018 version, I mean, picks up right after the first one, the 1978 one.
• 1:13:12
  It's not the idea of the cult of the Thorn, it's the idea of the babysitter.
• 1:13:16
  Laurie's just a random person that Michael went after.
• 1:13:20
  And it's an interesting twist because we focus so much on the idea that Laurie's
• 1:13:26
  his sister and the Myers curse that takes it back to the base roots, and I love
• 1:13:31
  that, uh, McBride and Green did that along with Jeff Fradley, who also co-wrote.
• 1:13:37
  And that leads to my number one.
• 1:13:39
  From comedy to, uh, horror.
• 1:13:42
  This is an interesting one.
• 1:13:44
  I'm just gonna give the title, and that's The Exorcist, because William
• 1:13:47
  Peter Blatty wrote comedy novels, John Goldfarb, Please Come Home I, Billy
• 1:13:54
  Shakespeare, and co-wrote A Shot in the Dark before he jumped into The Exorcist.
• 1:14:00
  The two books I, I looked up, they're pretty funny for
• 1:14:03
  the time they were released.
• 1:14:04
  But writing A Shot in the Dark, which it's the sequel to The
• 1:14:07
  Pink Panther, I mean, you go from that and then write The Exorcist?
• 1:14:13
  Well done,
• 1:14:13
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:14:15
  Ryan: Imagine if Inspector Clouseau was in The Exorcist, though.
• 1:14:18
  Kearns: Be kind of neat
• 1:14:19
  Ryan: Just But that's my top five, uh, comedy to horror and directors.
• 1:14:26
  So, but John, I'm curious, is your top five Whit Wishes?
• 1:14:31
  Jon: It is.
• 1:14:32
  Ryan: I'm
• 1:14:33
  Jon: It is.
• 1:14:34
  Ryan: to do something, but I don't
• 1:14:35
  Jon: My, my top five is wishes gone wrong.
• 1:14:41
  I guess we'll start out with number five, and number five
• 1:14:45
  is The Gate II: Trespassers.
• 1:14:49
  so teens summon a demon which is willing to grant them some wishes.
• 1:14:54
  Terrance wishes for his father to not be an alcoholic and to be a functional adult.
• 1:14:59
  And when it seemingly works, the teens start making more wishes, but the
• 1:15:05
  demonic minion has other plans for them and bites two of the teens, turning
• 1:15:10
  them into demons too, and things just spiral from there my number four is
• 1:15:17
  the sequel to a movie that we've done previously, and it's Leprechaun 2
• 1:15:26
  Kearns: Nice.
• 1:15:26
  Ryan: was, I was
• 1:15:27
  Jon: Yep
• 1:15:28
  Ryan: if you were gonna do two or three, there was
• 1:15:31
  Jon: I went with t- I went with two, in order to escape the cast
• 1:15:35
  iron safe he has been imprisoned in, Leprechaun grants three wishes to a
• 1:15:40
  man with devastating consequences.
• 1:15:42
  His first wish is for gold, which manifests inside of him, and
• 1:15:48
  from there things only get worse.
• 1:15:50
  Then the Leprechaun goes on the hunt for his intended bride.
• 1:15:56
  And, you know, typical Leprechaun insanity ensues and Warwick Davis is
• 1:16:01
  Warwick Davis-ing all over the place number three is a movie I've definitely
• 1:16:06
  put on of top five before, but it works here even better, and that's Wishmaster
• 1:16:11
  Ryan: Yes
• 1:16:13
  Jon: when a long-imprisoned djinn is accidentally awakened
• 1:16:16
  and released, it goes on a spree granting wishes in a twisted fashion.
• 1:16:21
  Think a woman being turned into a mannequin after wishing
• 1:16:25
  to be beautiful forever.
• 1:16:27
  it falls to a young gemologist to stop the djinn and prevent
• 1:16:32
  him from granting more wishes.
• 1:16:34
  And Wishmaster, I, I said the last time I talked about, has such a great cast of,
• 1:16:40
  like, horror icons littered throughout it.
• 1:16:42
  It's… Wishmaster's a lot of fun.
• 1:16:45
  my number two, not to be confused with the TV series or the two '90s movies,
• 1:16:52
  it's 1972's Tales From the Crypt.
• 1:16:56
  And it, this- it's an anthology movie, so what we're focusing on here is the
• 1:17:00
  segment called Wish You Were Here.
• 1:17:03
  so in this segment, Enid and Ralph realize their Chinese figurine
• 1:17:09
  will grant them three wishes.
• 1:17:11
  What they don't realize is every wish comes with a tragic consequence.
• 1:17:17
  Money?
• 1:17:18
  Ralph dies in a car crash, and then the remaining wishes only make things worse
• 1:17:25
  Ryan: Is that a, is it a good film?
• 1:17:28
  Outta curiosity.
• 1:17:29
  Not
• 1:17:30
  Jon: I mean, it's like, most anthologies.
• 1:17:31
  There's some really good segments and some that are kinda not so good.
• 1:17:37
  But it's worth a watch
• 1:17:38
  Ryan: I was gonna say it was because of the whole, um, just to piggyback real
• 1:17:41
  quick, uh, when they did comics back in the '30s and '40s and they did a lot
• 1:17:45
  of horror comics, it was either Tales from the Crypt or, uh, Vault of Horror.
• 1:17:49
  Uh, there was others,
• 1:17:50
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:17:51
  Ryan: are the main ones.
• 1:17:52
  And Tales from the Crypt was actually the first anthology movie, I think.
• 1:17:56
  And then when Creepshow came out in 1980, which they did a lot of, like, their own
• 1:18:00
  stories and stuff based on those comic books, it get, really got that push.
• 1:18:04
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:18:06
  Yeah.
• 1:18:07
  Yeah.
• 1:18:08
  Yeah.
• 1:18:09
  So my number one is another anthology movie, so we're gonna
• 1:18:14
  be focused on one segment in that.
• 1:18:17
  And my number one is The ABCs of Death Part 2, and we're looking at
• 1:18:23
  the segment called W is for Wish.
• 1:18:28
  so in W is for Wish, a boy wishes to fight alongside a He-Man-like action
• 1:18:34
  figure who he and his buddies idolize, and they're transported to that world only
• 1:18:40
  to find out it's not like it is on TV.
• 1:18:44
  They think they're gonna go fight heroic battles by the side of Prince Cassio,
• 1:18:50
  only for one boy to wind up being literally fried by the evil Zorb, while
• 1:18:56
  the other one winds up chained in a dungeon with a strangely pudgy fantasy man
• 1:19:03
  Kearns: Ew.
• 1:19:04
  Ryan: Very Game of Thrones
• 1:19:05
  Kearns: sound of that
• 1:19:05
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:19:07
  Kearns: I don't like the
• 1:19:07
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:19:08
  Kearns: at all.
• 1:19:09
  Jon: the two ABCs of Death movies with their 26 and 26 segments probably
• 1:19:16
  are equal about one good movie.
• 1:19:18
  This is one of the segments that's really awesome.
• 1:19:20
  definitely recommend, 'cause I mean, they're all short, the segments.
• 1:19:24
  You can…
• 1:19:26
  Ryan: About two minutes, five
• 1:19:26
  Jon: It's a fun one.
• 1:19:28
  Yeah, two to five minutes.
• 1:19:29
  A, a lot, a lot of current directors got their start in there
• 1:19:33
  Ryan: didn't they do something similar or am I thinking the same thing when
• 1:19:37
  they did like the Vault of Horror?
• 1:19:39
  Am I… Is that the same
• 1:19:40
  Jon: Oh
• 1:19:41
  Ryan: Alphabet of Horror or something?
• 1:19:44
  Jon: Probably, yeah.
• 1:19:45
  I don't, I don't think it's a, like a completely original a concept,
• 1:19:50
  but what they did is bring in a whole bunch of indie filmmakers and,
• 1:19:55
  Ryan: cool
• 1:19:56
  Jon: you know, really helped a lot of careers, I think
• 1:19:59
  Ryan: Yeah, I like that
• 1:20:00
  Kearns: is cool.
• 1:20:01
  I like that too
• 1:20:03
  Jon: Mm, so that's, that's five wishes gone wrong
• 1:20:06
  Kearns: Right.
• 1:20:07
  Well, that's two good top fives tonight, gentlemen, and one good movie, and one
• 1:20:12
  Jon: Absolutely
• 1:20:13
  Kearns: mustache
• 1:20:14
  Ryan: I'll take it
• 1:20:18
  Kearns: We like the look, Ryan.
• 1:20:19
  I'm done, I'm done messing with you, for this episode anyway.
• 1:20:22
  All right, guys.
• 1:20:23
  We're getting out of here
• 1:20:25
  Ryan: Have a good one.
• 1:20:26
  Keep on riding
• 1:20:30
  Jon: See ya.
• 1:20:32
  Ryan: It's the mustache.
• 1:20:34
  What?
• 1:20:34
  Jon: on writing or keep on riding?
• 1:20:37
  Kearns: I think
• 1:20:37
  Ryan: It's the mustache
• 1:20:38
  Kearns: like he
• 1:20:38
  Jon: Okay
• 1:20:39
  Kearns: but he said riding.
• 1:20:40
  All right, we're out of here.
• 1:20:41
  Bye everybody.
• 1:20:42
  You ruined the, you
• 1:20:43
  Jon: mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
• 1:20:46
  Yeah.
• 1:20:47
  Kearns: words