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David Kaplan on Chicago sports, Former Hawkeye Wade Lookingbill talks Sweet 16 & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Our number 2, Miller and Condon, welcome back.
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  It's the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  Trent Condon and Ken Miller until 2:00.
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  Wade looking bill. We'll preview tomorrow.
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  Sweet 16 game, Nebraska, Iowa. Wade looking bill, 130 right
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  now, David Kaplan, lot of topics for Capy.
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  Hello pal, how are you? What's going on, brother?
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  Good to talk to you. So obviously the Bulls will get
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  to them in a minute as they made a new May needed a new head
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  coach. But opening day baseball
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  tomorrow and your thoughts on the makeup of the Cubs roster as
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  it stands heading into another season.
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  They announced the 25 man roster earlier today.
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  Cap. Yeah, I like it.
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  Now there's no Saya there. He's on the injured lift and
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  Justin Steele is on the 60 day, but he's been cleared by doctors
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  fully. He's been released from
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  treatment. So they're, you know, they're
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  not going to push it. They'll get him ready.
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  He's not going to throw, you know, in a big league game.
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  I'm saying he doesn't pitch till June 1.
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  That's my gut feeling. Maybe he comes back earlier.
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  He's healthy, but if that weathers at all chilly, why
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  would you jeopardize a guy who could be a massive ad as you go
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  toward a post season birth? No doubt.
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  So we get the official roster, the 26 man. 26 man, right?
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  Yes. Comforto makes it.
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  I know we had a couple of those conversations, I think there.
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  So he is on there. Was there anything though that
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  was a surprise, Anything that came out of left field for you
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  when you get the official one? And annoying injuries are always
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  going to be a part of this conversation too.
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  No, nothing really surprised me. Maybe Javier Assad not being
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  there, but they want to keep him stretched out and he wasn't
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  going to be in their rotation. They want to have him ready to
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  start. So you know, you bring him to
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  Chicago, Where are you using the guy?
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  Either he doesn't ever pitch or he's like a late inning
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  reliever. He's got good stuff and Craig
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  Council said. We've got to have guys ready to
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  start because nobody goes, you know, all five guys the whole
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  season. So that's probably why he's down
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  in Iowa. What kind of year do you expect
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  from Colin Ray, who just had A and I don't lose a career year,
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  but at this point in his career, I'm not sure many people saw
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  last year coming. What is it?
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  What? What's Colin Ray's role this
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  year do you think, Cap? Not in the rotation, but able to
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  spot start. And then you'll have him as a
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  long man. You know, they're not going to
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  push anything. Kate Horton's not going to
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  throw, you know, 8 innings in his first start of the season.
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  So they're going to have Colin Ray be able to go multiple
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  innings and then get to the back end of the pen.
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  And we'll see, you know, how some of the guys that they
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  brought in to replace the Brad Keller's of the world and the
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  Drew Pomeranzas of the world, We'll see how some of those guys
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  do. The kid they picked up from the
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  Twins, maybe he's healthy, has awesome stuff.
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  You guys know that. But Palencia is locked in as the
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  closer. So I think they've got a chance
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  to have a really good bullpen, a chance.
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  Cap as you know, all of us as sports fans, we get guys that we
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  get crushes on. There's guys that we just can't
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  quit. And I'm becoming more and more
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  scared, concerned that my guy Porter, Porter Hodge is just not
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  going to work another. He's banged up again.
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  The stuff is incredible when he's healthy, but but I just
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  don't know about the health part of it.
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  Do I need to stop my man crush right now in Porter Hodge?
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  Should I just move off that train and maybe that'll help him
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  get back to hell? I would say you probably want to
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  get on like Tinder and start putting a profile up looking for
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  somebody else. Just hope he doesn't notice.
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  It OK, yeah, updating things at the very least I got it because.
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  For all the guys to have a man crush.
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  I know it's just, it's so weird, right?
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  But we all have those and and people think you're crazy.
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  And like, I thought he was the closer to the future.
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  Was that two years ago when they were out of it and he was
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  closing a couple of games? I'm like, this is the dude and
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  it just hasn't happened. That leads to kind of a bigger
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  question, though. The bullpen as a whole, I mean,
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  there's been so much shuffling these last couple of years of
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  what they've done and mixing and matching and veterans and the
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  young guys that have come up. Worked great last year.
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  It absolutely did. How confident are you that this
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  bullpen get a hold up again here for 2026?
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  I'm pretty confident I am. I think they've got, you know, a
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  good plethora of hard throwers, which Jed talked about after
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  last season. As the council, we need more
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  velocity, we need more swing and miss stuff.
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  And I think they may have found that at least if the guys stay
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  healthy that they brought in. So I feel like there's a good
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  mix, lefties, righties and I love our closer.
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  So I feel like they're in a pretty good spot there.
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  They have depth in their starting rotation.
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  So I'm I'm pretty solid on our pitching staff.
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  Then again, if you are the team that we all think you're going
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  to be, you're going to add on this year at the end of July.
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  They didn't last year because they didn't think they were that
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  team yet. But now with Bregman, you're
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  that payroll, you're all in. Yeah, Cabrera, he's going to
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  have a big year, one would assume.
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  Speaking of payroll, PCA got paid.
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  Your thoughts on the contract extension cap?
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  I thought it was a brilliant move for both sides.
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  For Pete, he's where he wants to be, he said.
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  I don't ever want to play for another organization.
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  I only want to be here and he now has financial security for
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  the rest of his life. The way the deal is structured,
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  this year he makes 880 grand and then he has 10 million next year
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  and 10 million in 2028 and then it escalates from there.
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  So it gives the Cubs real cost certainty that hey man, we can
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  make a bold move to go get somebody because the PCA money
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  is back loaded and they don't really have many people locked
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  up on long term guarantee deals. They got Bregman, they got
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  Dansby Swanson, now they have PCA, but they back loaded that
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  money. I think that's it.
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  Who else do they have? They have one year or two year
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  deal with Film Aaton. Yeah.
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  So that's one more year. They really don't have anybody
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  else that they have a long term big money commitment to, which
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  allows them to go to Kate Horton after this year or maybe you do
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  it in season. You can go to Nico's up at the
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  end of the year. Say is Azuki's up at the end of
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  the year, Ian Hap is up at the end of the year.
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  So they're going to have, you know, a lot of flexibility
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  payroll wise to make a couple of moves here.
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  Speaking of say he is starting the year on the IL, they
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  retroacted it a couple days back to the 22nd.
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  What's the latest update there on the health then?
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  We anticipate maybe a little bit more DH ING early on whenever
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  they get him back. Depends how he's moving.
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  The doctors said it's a pain thing.
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  You can, you can absolutely play on this.
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  There's no structural damage. We had a sprain or strain, not a
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  sprain. I don't know what the difference
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  is, but that's what they said. And Craig said, let's be clear,
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  it's a strained PCL, not a sprained PCL.
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  I guess that's good news. That's the way he framed it.
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  So I would imagine you'd see him DH more at the start when he
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  comes back. I don't think this is a long
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  term thing by any means in terms of an IL spin.
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  Kappa, I saw the piece today. Yeah, I guess it snuck up on me
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  that this will be the 10 year reunion of the World Series
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  team. And I saw David Ross is putting
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  something together with most of the the big names on that.
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  Chris Bryant's part of it, Lester, Henrietta Schwarber,
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  obviously Joe Madden's a part of it.
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  They got it's it's the team, it's the big it's Rizzo.
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  I I got to think captain Chicago that's going to break records
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  for eyeballs that watch that boy.
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  On the surface, it looks really good.
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  How much of it have you seen? How aware of you are?
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  Are you on on what David Ross has been working on?
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  Well, I know he's got a podcast that he just announced with the
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  Volume Company. That's Colin Cowherd's company,
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  and it'll be him and Rizzo hosting this 2016 podcast where
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  they interviewed different people from the team and tell
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  stories that none of us have ever heard before.
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  So I was around for just about every game of that season to
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  watch. I did the plan, so I'm excited.
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  Yesterday there was a guy online who's a great handicapper called
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  the Philly Godfather, and he said he tweets at me, yo cap.
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  And he held up the plan. Better get ready to write the
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  second volume of this is the Cubs are winning the World
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  Series at 18. No one wouldn't.
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  That be something. The price is certainly there.
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  Would it even come? Close cap I have a ticket on
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  them I. Bet you do it every year as I
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  have one every year on the Winnipeg Jets and I'll never
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  cash mine. Would it be?
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  Obviously it's a World Series, right?
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  But it wouldn't come close to the first one, right?
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  After all the history was goes up in flames, even though it's
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  10 years later, would it come close to the first one?
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  It wouldn't, would it? No, I've said this before.
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  I was there that glorious night, November 2016 in Cleveland.
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  You were on the air, weren't you?
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  I was. I hosted a four hour post game
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  show. We literally hit the air within
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  10 seconds of that final out. My producer Jeff Nelson in my
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  ear, I'm on the set. I mean, I was out of my mind
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  yelling at Hollingsworth before the home run.
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  He's like, relax, it's over. I said there's no done deals.
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  More than any team in any sport in the history of our world that
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  could be up 90 to nothing with two outs.
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  No one on the bottom of the night.
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  They could find a way to screw this up.
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  And then they hit the home run. I'm screaming at Hollingsworth.
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  You're just a mercenary. You have no idea.
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  We went through you played for seven teams.
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  I was furious. And then in my ear, I'm on the
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  set and it's a little bit delayed, but I can hear what's
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  going on. I'm not stadium speakers.
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  And my producer, Jeff Nelson goes.
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  The Cubs just won the effing World Series.
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  We're on the air in 10-9. And we hit the air.
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  And I mean, I was looking up at my late father going dad.
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  We did it and I composed myself and it was game on, baby, game
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  on. I can't wait.
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  Cap, we know that you believe the Cubs will finish in first,
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  and I think everybody on this airway right now.
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  In the Central. Agrees with that.
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  The Cardinals will finish in 5th, so give us that order 2
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  through 4. How does this thing wrap up?
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  Is it going to be Chalky Brewers, 2 Reds, Pirates?
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  Or we're going to find a different order for those middle
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  three teams. I had the Cubs winning it fairly
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  comfortably. I'm not telling you they're
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  going to win it by 20 games. They're going to win it by 5-6
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  games. I think they win 94.
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  I have the Brewers finishing second, I have the Reds
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  finishing third, but a with their pitching injuries, the
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  Pirates with their pitching could absolutely get third.
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  Yep. In fact, I'll put the Pirates
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  third, the Red 4th and the Cardinals a distant fifth.
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  Yep, and that's music. Two years right here, you seem.
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  You like saying? That Yeah, a distant fifth for
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  the Cardinals. The.
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  Cardinals. Cardinals are a joke.
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  Yeah, to the White Sox cap. I heard your station made a
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  little news yesterday. I'm not sure how well that was
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  received as you guys. Your station would get bumped
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  off the air for White Sox baseball.
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  You're still going to carry White Sox on radio, but Waddle
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  and Sylvie show is going to be online on the YouTube channel, I
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  guess only the White Sox. What kind of year is this going
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  to be? I think we both have felt
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  leading up to it that the that it's turned, not necessarily
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  turned into a playoff team, but it's headed in the right
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  direction. Fair.
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  It absolutely headed in the right direction.
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  I don't think they have enough starting pitching to reach, you
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  know, 78 to 84 wins. No chance, not with that
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  rotation. I don't see it.
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  I do think that their position players are getting better.
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  I think it's a 70 win team, maybe 68, but that they were two
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  years ago they were 41 wins. They were a train wreck.
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  So I think they they're absolutely headed in the right
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  direction and I think they could get to 7071.
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  That's about it. We knew the rebuild was
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  happening as it was going on, and it takes a while.
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  This isn't basketball, right? Where rookies come in right away
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  at 18 years old and can dominate the league, and there's no
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  Wendy's walking through. Certainly at this point.
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  Every time we've talked about the White Sox this offseason,
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  you keep bringing up the pitching and both the rotation
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  and the bullpen. How about the young guys coming?
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  The guys, maybe they're two years away, three years away.
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  How stocked up? Are they in arms in the minor
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  leagues or is that still something that they're going to
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  be working towards? Is building up what the pitching
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  staff looks like going forward? Tell us a little bit, as we dig
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  deeper into the White Sox, what things look like down in the
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  minors. So they have two kids, Hagen
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  Smith and Noah Schultz, who I think could be here this year,
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  later this season. And I don't expect them to set
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  the world on fire from day one, but I do think they'll be
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  mainstays in their rotation next year.
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  And then they have a kid coming back from Tommy John in Drew
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  Thorpe. So you have three quality
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  starting caliber arms that are coming, but I don't think they
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  have right now enough, No shot. Jonathan Cannon's down in the
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  minors, he could come up and give you a quality start.
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  But I Eric Fetty, he's OK. I mean, when he's one of your
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  five guys every fifth day, I just don't think you're very
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  good. Yeah, no doubt Billy Donovan
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  potentially cap right at the top of the wish list for North
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  Carolina. Obviously, we know the success
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  of Florida. Apparently he's got a nice
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  contract still with the Bulls. Will the Bulls be looking for a
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  new head coach? Do you think Donovan goes back
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  to college? That makes sense to you.
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  Like, every time I've talked to him, it did not seem like he
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  wanted to go back to college basketball.
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  But is he just resigned from the Bulls and hang out?
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  I mean, he's a competitor. This thing's so broken here and
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  so poorly run that at some point he's got enough money for the
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  rest of his lifetime's 10. He's making $6 million a year
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  and has been for a long time. I think he wants to win.
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  Do I think he takes North Carolina?
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  Maybe. I do think if Kansas opens, Bill
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  self steps down. Why would he not want the Kansas
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  job? It's a better job than North
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  Carolina and I don't have to do 10 miles down the road.
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  Well, then on top of it, one of the things we always heard about
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  him is the recruiting side. The recruiting side now is you
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  got enough money. All right, then I'm going to
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  come to your school. I mean, you, you know the
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  business, Kathy, and you know what it was when he was in the
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  college game compared to what it is now.
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  It has to be easier as long as you got the financial backing.
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  And certainly both of those institutions does.
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  It's just it's so different than it was even a decade ago now in
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  college athletics. It is.
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  It's totally different than it used to be.
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  When I was there, you get yelled at if you talk to a player at a
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  high school game because you're not supposed to bump them.
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  That was the bump rule, they called it.
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  Now it's can we get to 5 million enough?
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  No, because I'm going to BYU for 7 million.
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  That's what they paid the kid. This.
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  Year. AJ de Bonse, like if I'm him,
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  why would I go to the NBA this year unless I hate college?
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  He keeps saying I'm having the time of my life.
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  I love this. OK, why not play another year?
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  You're telling me if you said to the BYU boosters they get 8
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  million, I'll come back for one more year?
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  Why do you have to rush to your adulthood if you truly love
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  being in college? But he probably will GoPro and
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  he'll make his money and move on with his life.
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  But if you've got the right NIL deals behind you, like Kansas or
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  North Carolina, you're just selecting players then because
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  those are blue blood jobs. Yep, no doubt about it.
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  Who's the best team that's still live in your mind?
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  Cap from what you saw last weekend.
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  The best team that's still alive.
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  I mean, I picked Iowa State to win it for a reason.
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  I love that coach. I love the way they play.
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  They seem to me to have great culture.
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  I don't know the coach there at all.
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  I know most of the guys in the game.
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  I've never met him. I like the way his kids carry
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  themselves. I like the way they play.
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  CAP You going to opening day tomorrow?
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  CAP or no? Yep, I'll do my show out there
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  at a bar called Daddy's Place 6 to 9 and amble over to Wrigley.
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  But I'll leave before first pitch and I'll watch it in my
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  YouTube studio. Talk to you next week, pal.
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  Thanks for coming on as always, appreciate.
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  All right, Trent Con and you and I are on the road on.
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  Friday. Yes, we are.
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  We're at. Buffalo Wild Wings and we are
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  going to be given away a signed basketball from Ben McCollum and
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  one from TJ Otzelberger and do I have that right?
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  That's how I understand it, absolutely.
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  And we will be not just any Buffalo Wild Wings, the one on
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  Merle Hay. So I want to get that
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  specifically out there for everybody.
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  The big one. Yes, that's where we're going to
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  be on Merle Hay. So stop on out.
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  An opportunity to win either Otz or Ben McCollum.
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  Pretty good prize. It's gonna be happening.
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  Gonna have some Bud Light out there.
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  Gonna have Papa Shot. Gonna have a really good time
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  out there. Budweiser got a bunch of prizes.
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  Absolutely. It's gonna be a good time.
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  So Friday, looking for something to do over the lunch hour or
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  maybe you know what you're taking 1/2 day or you're
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  celebrating the Hawkeye win. You're not going to go into work
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  because you're hungover. Well, just come out with us
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  little hair of the dog and kick things off as we get ready.
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  Then, of course, for the evening session on Friday with Iowa
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  State playing, oh, these two games these two days, it's.
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  It's better than the first weekend, Trent.
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  I'm not going there, but it's awesome.
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  They're better games. The games, they're better games
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  are going to be incredible. I wonder, do you remember when
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  we, when Mike Pomp said this like 3 years ago, maybe four
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  years ago, that they were at Circa, were going to try and
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  build the Sweet 16 weekend into a weekend that would maybe not
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  get as many people in Vegas as the opening weekend, but make
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  this, make this somewhat of a special event.
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  I think the games are going to do it themselves for them.
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  I really do look at the coaching matchups, look at the blue
• 19:55
  bloods, look at the names of the schools that are still alive.
• 19:59
  Even hearing the national people talk on Van Pelt uses this.
• 20:02
  I love it. Corn versus crops.
• 20:05
  Yeah, corn. Nebraska gets that moniker
• 20:07
  because they are the Cornhuskers and we get crops and corn versus
• 20:11
  crops. But hearing the national people
• 20:13
  talk about that and knowing the rivalry and knowing this is a
• 20:17
  new rivalry and yet the way that it's building and.
• 20:19
  And for a lot of people I know, this is towards the bottom of
• 20:22
  the rung on the national scale, but yet even the excitement
• 20:24
  we're hearing from them. I was listening to our buddy
• 20:27
  Matt Norlander, his podcast this morning, and him and Gary
• 20:31
  Parrish were talking about that. I think Nortlander had it second
• 20:36
  out of the eight games on his list, and Parrish had a third.
• 20:39
  And it's because, yeah, I mean that to hear that from 2
• 20:42
  national guys, just absolutely good.
• 20:44
  Game did what moved their needle.
• 20:46
  Michigan State, UConn. No, because of the coaching.
• 20:48
  Match, I think that one was a little bit further down.
• 20:50
  I think Texas, Purdue was last. That's the one that we had last
• 20:53
  yesterday. I think it was Illinois.
• 20:54
  Houston might have been. That's their can't miss that.
• 20:56
  Was their number one defense against offense that component
• 21:00
  to it? But to hear I would Nebraska in
• 21:02
  basketball, yeah. That in the second weekend of
• 21:05
  the tournament. And the second weekend of the
• 21:07
  tournament. Well, I read the I read with
• 21:09
  Simples radio station was, you know, they were so excited to be
• 21:12
  there, but yet it's standing in our way is that team that we
• 21:16
  hate that beats us and everything and then it quickly.
• 21:19
  Well, except volleyball, right? Like, OK.
• 21:22
  They they got us. There you can have that.
• 21:23
  They got us there, right? Even this year, Iowa had their
• 21:26
  worst dual season in wrestling in decades.
• 21:30
  They still beat Nebraska. That didn't happen to Nationals.
• 21:33
  They got of a Nationals. But in the duel, in the
• 21:35
  individual one-on-one match up, the Hawkeyes, in their worst
• 21:37
  duel season since the 1970s, still beat the Huskers.
• 21:41
  That's unbelievable. Let's take the rubber match.
• 21:44
  It's tomorrow night. Where are you watching it?
• 21:48
  You're going to be at home in your basement.
• 21:49
  I think so you. Can't watch that with anybody
• 21:52
  else. This is too big.
• 21:53
  You know what a psychopath I am too?
• 21:55
  You got to. Watch it by yourself.
• 21:56
  And I want to do it with Jack and Ella.
• 21:58
  There you go. Yes.
• 22:00
  And they'll probably disperse every once in a while when Dad's
• 22:03
  yelling at the TV. They'll watch it in a different
• 22:05
  room where they come back with me.
• 22:06
  But I think I need the solitude of it.
• 22:09
  I need to. Yeah.
• 22:10
  You. Need to be by yourself.
• 22:11
  Experiences I won't be at the bar stool at One Eyed Jake's
• 22:14
  like I was 27 years ago. That's where you were well.
• 22:17
  No longer A1 eyed. Jake's is no longer there.
• 22:20
  B. Yeah, I just don't think, no,
• 22:23
  that's the time I wonder. What it'd be like to buy out
• 22:25
  tomorrow night though, it's scary.
• 22:27
  I would say it'd be ballot ball man.
• 22:28
  It's going to be huge here. It's going to be huge, everyone.
• 22:31
  Yeah, it's going to be a big couple of days, no doubt about
• 22:34
  that. What a blast Miller and Condon
• 22:37
  Wade looking Bill will get. Wade's thoughts next.
• 22:40
  Must be kind of special to him, right?
• 22:41
  Former player of the uniform where the jersey what we'll find
• 22:45
  out is he's going to pop on with Trenton I next Trent's plays of
• 22:48
  the day circus sports they are still to come about till 10
• 22:51
  minutes or so before 2:00 Miller and Condon talking sports with
• 22:55
  you and we're glad you're with us on the Iowa sports radio
• 22:58
  network hi Miller and Condon welcome back Iowa sports radio
• 23:04
  network. I had to call her during the
• 23:05
  break said like you, he he unloaded his DraftKings account
• 23:11
  on Florida. Oh really huge Hawkeye fan just
• 23:15
  as an emotional, emotional head and he unloaded he said he
• 23:19
  couldn't be happier. He absolutely have to fund his
• 23:22
  fund his account again. Every single penny bettered on
• 23:25
  Florida and couldn't have been happier to lose it all.
• 23:27
  That's awesome. Been there.
• 23:28
  Before Yeah, and we'll be again, hopefully.
• 23:30
  Here's Wade looking. Bill Wade.
• 23:32
  I can only imagine. You seem like you're a pretty
• 23:34
  reserved guy. I'm guessing that wasn't the
• 23:37
  case when when Fogars hit the shot and the 4.5 seconds runs
• 23:44
  off the clock. Take us into your living room,
• 23:46
  wherever you were watching it, Wade.
• 23:48
  Yeah, we were watching it at home with my wife and our
• 23:51
  daughter happened to be back, who's a senior at Island on the
• 23:54
  dance team. So she's been involved in, you
• 23:56
  know, in a small way, but it was, it was really special.
• 24:00
  It was really special. And thank you, coach Todd
• 24:03
  Golden, and I know he's national champion and I'm sure he's a
• 24:07
  wonderful coach, but why would you press in that situation?
• 24:12
  That is something 4th grade teams wouldn't even do.
• 24:15
  You're ahead in the game. Why press?
• 24:17
  You're not trying to force a turnover.
• 24:19
  It was one of the most bizarre defensive strategies I've seen,
• 24:23
  but still still got to hit that shot.
• 24:25
  And Bennis Sturtz put it right on the money and just, you know,
• 24:28
  an an Iowa basketball all timer. No question.
• 24:31
  Wade, I brought this up to Ken earlier this week and one of my
• 24:35
  favorite components because it's Cooper making that pass and they
• 24:38
  had to be on the money as he hit him running.
• 24:40
  I mean, you talk about leading a receiver perfectly.
• 24:42
  That's exactly what Cooper did. And of course, J Rs dad was on
• 24:45
  the last Sweet 16 team. And as Sturtz sees how coming
• 24:49
  towards them, there's Al in the corner and he does it for a with
• 24:53
  a bounce pass and bounce passes and Doctor Tom and Iowa
• 24:58
  basketball. That was a huge part of it
• 25:00
  because it just bounced in a perfect way, settled right into
• 25:03
  the shooting pocket and Big Al went up with confidence there.
• 25:06
  I just thought it was a full circle moment.
• 25:08
  Iowa basketball doing it, but not just a pass, a bounce pass
• 25:12
  and then Al hitting the three pointer.
• 25:14
  It was a great moment to bring us back, I think 27 years ago to
• 25:17
  Doctor Tom. And just just the stories that I
• 25:20
  didn't know this just until a week or two ago, I think in
• 25:23
  Chicago maybe I heard the story about Bulgaria's father.
• 25:26
  You know, he passed away at when Al was a really young age.
• 25:30
  And I think Jr. had 12 points in their second round match up and
• 25:35
  Cooper had 12 points against Florida.
• 25:37
  You know, just things that you know, and 2 for the kid, you
• 25:40
  know, Iowa probably doesn't get him if his dad hadn't played
• 25:44
  Iowa. I mean, Purdue offered him
• 25:46
  Indiana, Indiana offered him and you know, just had a horrible
• 25:51
  first year, injuries and that lung issue entered the portal
• 25:55
  and, and came back with no teammates, you know, on the team
• 25:59
  per SE and just fought through it And, and man, it's it's a
• 26:04
  good match up tomorrow night. Nebraska's really good, but Iowa
• 26:09
  matches up really well with them, as we've seen in in both
• 26:12
  games. No question about it beat him in
• 26:16
  Iowa City as you know and then lost in overtime in the final
• 26:18
  day of the regular season. Octavian Banks with the
• 26:21
  exception of a free throw shooting against Florida, which
• 26:24
  is his head scratcher because it wasn't he over 80%.
• 26:27
  He was and makes 5 at 10. I think Banks has been, has been
• 26:31
  really, really good throughout the in particular against
• 26:34
  Florida. I loved his game.
• 26:38
  He's got, he's got a little edge to him.
• 26:40
  He's got a little edge to him. You know, he, he's a tough kid.
• 26:44
  He's a tough kid. And they needed something like
• 26:46
  that against the Florida team that was, I don't know if they
• 26:50
  were cheap or just aggressive, but it was, it was a weird first
• 26:54
  half when Trevor Urich just got truck.
• 26:58
  Paul was made there. And obviously the scramble on
• 27:01
  the scrum is Fulgaris. But Adrian Banks is a dude now
• 27:04
  and he can stretch you out a little bit and knock down that 3
• 27:07
  when he has to. That's why I think that Bhutan
• 27:11
  gel, you know, Fulgaris Bhutan Gel, Tavian Banks matchup is
• 27:16
  really good because that guy can't guard out to 22 feet and I
• 27:20
  think our bigs from Iowa can take advantage of that.
• 27:23
  Either shoot threes or take him to the basket.
• 27:27
  I would get to the Sweet 16 and they did it without Bennett
• 27:29
  Sturtz being a superhero, and if he would have told me that, I
• 27:32
  would have said there's no shot. Oh, and nine from three in the
• 27:35
  game and didn't play very well against Clemson, certainly
• 27:37
  offensively. Is he do?
• 27:40
  Is he worn down? I mean, what do you anticipate?
• 27:42
  You know Hoiberg, they're going to have.
• 27:44
  Yeah, You know, he wasn't great in the Big 10 tournament.
• 27:50
  He plays a lot of minutes. But I I will say a couple of
• 27:53
  things. The pace of Iowa's play is
• 27:56
  unique in that you're not pressing, you're not burning a
• 27:59
  lot of energy. Now he's different because he's
• 28:01
  a point guard, but I think that helps him rest a little bit.
• 28:05
  And then the the TV timeouts, you guys notice this.
• 28:09
  They're they're longer in the NCAA tournament.
• 28:11
  You know, it's more commercials, it's more Charles Barkley, you
• 28:15
  know, Capital One over and over again.
• 28:17
  So those TV timeouts are actually longer.
• 28:19
  I don't know if that's 30 seconds or even a minute longer.
• 28:22
  So that helps guys rest up a little bit.
• 28:23
  There's so many challenges, but there's something he's been off
• 28:27
  a little bit even, I'd say even the last month or so.
• 28:30
  I know he had 25 the first time they played Nebraska.
• 28:34
  I was kind of looking back but didn't shoot it great that
• 28:37
  night. And I think over in Lincoln, you
• 28:39
  know, he was OK. But to me that that just leads
• 28:43
  to more optimism. You know, he was he was very
• 28:46
  average, you know, on when they played Florida and they still
• 28:50
  won the game. They still knocked out the
• 28:52
  defending national champions. If he could put up a couple
• 28:55
  games now, like we've seen in the past when they when they
• 28:58
  played UCLA or we had 20 in the second-half of Minnesota.
• 29:03
  Now you got something. So we'll see.
• 29:05
  We'll see. But it's it's just a great time
• 29:07
  to be IO basketball fan because it because it's it's been a long
• 29:10
  time. It's been a long time.
• 29:11
  No question. So help us help me out boys.
• 29:13
  When when did the remember he didn't start a second-half or
• 29:17
  out of ATV time and it was a quad apparently was on the bench
• 29:20
  for do you remember that? Was that the Nebraska game?
• 29:24
  No, that was Ohio State, the Ohio State loss in the Big 10.
• 29:26
  Turn in the Big 10 turn. So do you think maybe the way
• 29:28
  there's something there that's being kind of kept under?
• 29:31
  Wraps with with with with Bennett Sturt, yes yes, you
• 29:34
  know, he was hard a little bit against Florida.
• 29:39
  I part of it. I think the way they play him
• 29:42
  now is he gets beat on they they put Yaxter Lindenberg type of
• 29:46
  size on him, you know, and they just they just beat on him and
• 29:50
  you know, for whatever reason, they're not calling a lot of
• 29:53
  fouls in this NCAA tournament, especially out front.
• 29:55
  And I think that's part of the issue.
• 29:58
  And again, you know, there's there's so much more tape on him
• 30:01
  now than there was even two months ago.
• 30:03
  And I know against Drake there was tape, but that's a different
• 30:05
  level. But he used to take that
• 30:07
  left-handed dribble step back three and he had plenty of space
• 30:12
  to get that to get that shot off.
• 30:14
  Now teams know when he takes that left-handed dribble step
• 30:17
  back, he's he's going to shoot a three.
• 30:18
  They close hard and now it's just harder for him to get that
• 30:21
  shot off. But I got faith, man.
• 30:23
  I, I, I think he's 22 and 7:00 tomorrow night.
• 30:26
  That works that I'd sign for that right now.
• 30:30
  Take that, and Iowa, I think is going to be in really, really
• 30:33
  good shape. I think it's going to be a
• 30:34
  grounder grinder. It's going to be ugly.
• 30:36
  Now, there's still games in front of us and there could be
• 30:39
  something even more special in front of this Iowa basketball
• 30:41
  team. But hearing from McCollum after
• 30:44
  the game and talking about he wants tough guys and that's what
• 30:46
  he recruits to his tough guys and seeing him all over the
• 30:49
  national landscape now and it feels like everybody in the
• 30:51
  country is talking to Ben McCollum, It does allow your
• 30:55
  mind to drift a little bit about what's going to continue the
• 30:59
  future of this program and after this 27 year drought back in the
• 31:03
  Sweet 16, but even more there, this guy's a winner.
• 31:06
  He's been a winner every single place that he has been.
• 31:09
  Wait, as your mind started to drift a little bit and and
• 31:12
  seeing Iowa being back to that consistent winter that they were
• 31:15
  during the 70s and the 80s and and into the 90s, getting back
• 31:18
  to that level once again for Iowa hoops?
• 31:21
  You know, I'm, I'm cautiously optimistic.
• 31:23
  I I thought this half time, you know, those 32nd interviews,
• 31:26
  which I always like because you never know what's going to get
• 31:28
  bad. But he he, he basically called
• 31:30
  out Florida, you know, Yeah, I love it.
• 31:32
  He's got, what was the phrase he used?
• 31:34
  Everybody sensitive, I think. Those guys got all sensitive.
• 31:38
  Here's the thing. If it was 10 years ago, Trent, I
• 31:41
  would say absolutely this. This will get the ball rolling,
• 31:45
  the snowball going downhill and it's just going to grow.
• 31:48
  I know. Where you're going?
• 31:49
  So much man, you just you've got to have money.
• 31:52
  You know, if you look at you look at Tate stage let's take
• 31:55
  here for example, had a really good freshman year.
• 31:58
  It's from Oklahoma, you know, maybe OU says, hey, we made a
• 32:02
  mistake. I hope this doesn't happen, but
• 32:04
  everybody's got agents and phones are ringing.
• 32:06
  I'm sure, you know, I was talking to portal people, I'm
• 32:09
  sure this week. This definitely helps all this,
• 32:14
  all this exposure. But man, it just comes down to
• 32:17
  how much money can you give me? You know, I love that Coach
• 32:21
  McCollum is tough and this and that, but it's just a different
• 32:24
  market. You know, it's a different
• 32:26
  market that I was going to lose kids.
• 32:27
  I shouldn't have said take save specifically, but.
• 32:30
  I get your point. Oklahoma.
• 32:31
  Yep, Yep. Oh, Garris is going to get phone
• 32:34
  calls. That guy's a good player.
• 32:35
  You know, every team's going to lose players and every team's
• 32:38
  going to get transferred. So, you know, whether you're
• 32:40
  Addie Brown from Iowa State, you know she's leaving, but it's
• 32:44
  just a different time. But man, it's just something we
• 32:46
  can worry about that later. But right now I think it's
• 32:48
  Nebraska and then even Illinois, Houston.
• 32:51
  Can you imagine? We'll see.
• 32:52
  We'll see. Can you imagine Illinois, Iowa
• 32:55
  for a trip to the Final Four? Can you imagine that?
• 32:59
  Like 1986, Flying out, Line I and Roy Marble and Kevin Gamble.
• 33:04
  They'd be wonderful. Be terrific.
• 33:06
  Yeah, oh man, what might be? Was that your guys's biggest
• 33:10
  rival when you were playing? Because it was on the heels of
• 33:13
  the Dion Thomas saga. Yeah, you know, so, so my when I
• 33:20
  was in the Big 10 that it was loaded.
• 33:22
  You know, my freshman year, Michigan beat Illinois in the
• 33:25
  finals. Can you imagine that?
• 33:26
  Two teams in the finals playing each other and no, I'm just, I'm
• 33:32
  sorry, maybe they're both my final four, but.
• 33:36
  Seton Hall The. Championship, yeah.
• 33:38
  Seton Hall, it got exacerbated when that Dean Thomas, Bruce
• 33:41
  Pearl thing came about, you know, and it, but there, there
• 33:45
  were some battles there my first couple years.
• 33:47
  The one year we weren't very good.
• 33:48
  It was my sophomore year. We we got senior day at Michigan
• 33:53
  when they had Terryville's Lloyd, Mont Lloyd Vaught and
• 33:56
  Rameel Robinson. We got senior day at Illinois
• 33:59
  when they had Kendall Gill, Stephen Bartle, Lowell Hamilton
• 34:03
  and Kenny Battle and I think Illinois beat us that day.
• 34:06
  I think it was in the 40s. I have to check, but it might
• 34:09
  have been like 42 and it was just, and we were bad.
• 34:12
  We were just, we were ready to be done.
• 34:14
  But they were so good. But Illinois is a huge rivalry.
• 34:17
  I mean, just that in state thing, you know, we're trying to
• 34:19
  get recruits from Illinois to come to Iowa.
• 34:22
  It's those, it's those border wars.
• 34:23
  It's Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Illinois.
• 34:26
  I think those are the biggest games every year.
• 34:28
  What kind of player was Bardo like?
• 34:30
  Do you remember? Great player, you know,
• 34:33
  borderline NBA player, just he was a really good player, but he
• 34:37
  was the 5th best player on that team.
• 34:39
  He was big too. Stevens, like 6566.
• 34:42
  He was, he was one of those big point guards.
• 34:44
  Him and Stevie Smith, him and Steve Smith from Michigan State
• 34:46
  were those big, you know, back when point guards were still
• 34:49
  511, six feet tall. Those guys were big, good
• 34:52
  players, yeah. He's a good broadcaster too.
• 34:54
  I like the way he analyzed his. Games I haven't seen him much, I
• 34:56
  think he's. Getting, you know what, that's a
• 34:58
  good point, and that's an excellent point.
• 34:59
  I never thought about that. Yeah, because he was all over TV
• 35:03
  leading up to this year. Yeah, I haven't.
• 35:06
  Seen him much? No, Robbie Hummel does every
• 35:08
  game. And that's OK, because he's
• 35:10
  really tough to. Be I think he's the I like
• 35:13
  Robbie. One thing real quick too, that
• 35:16
  those three man booths are tough to watch when it's Grant Hill
• 35:21
  and and Rafferty and is it an eagle?
• 35:24
  Doesn't everybody's got to speak and those guys are great
• 35:27
  basketball minds, but we just we just need 2.
• 35:29
  We don't need we don't need three people in the Blues.
• 35:32
  And then don't get me started on the halftime show.
• 35:35
  The NFL player and the WNBA player.
• 35:38
  My goodness, let's just get Charles.
• 35:40
  Rocky hasn't watched the college basketball game all year.
• 35:44
  He misses Ernie Johnson and Kenny the Jet.
• 35:46
  Yeah. Clark Kellogg is great.
• 35:49
  Awesome, but but but he's a college guy.
• 35:51
  He's watched all these games all year and then here comes the
• 35:56
  other people that can't pronounce anybody's name.
• 35:59
  Yeah, enjoy the game pal. Rooting for your alma mater.
• 36:02
  I think a lot of people in the listening audience are just be
• 36:05
  unbelievable. We get both Iowa team sports in
• 36:07
  the state. Of Iowa.
• 36:08
  Pretty special it's. Rarefied there, man.
• 36:11
  It is. It's just, you know, I, I, I
• 36:13
  think it's a good match up and it's going to be close one
• 36:15
  night, he said. Like it's going to be a rock
• 36:17
  fight, so whoever can kind of outlast the other and make some
• 36:20
  free throws down the stretch is going to win.
• 36:22
  I just got this note from my friend Mike Mahon.
• 36:24
  Bardo's move to Mexico. Oh, really?
• 36:26
  That's why he's not doing a lot of games.
• 36:27
  Good for him. There you go.
• 36:29
  Retirement winters are better there.
• 36:31
  Good stuff. Wade looking.
• 36:32
  Bill. Thanks for popping on, my
• 36:33
  friend. Appreciate it.
• 36:34
  We'll talk to you down the road. See you tonight.
• 36:36
  Tomorrow. Thank you.
• 36:37
  Bye bye Wade looking Bill good stuff Bartow in Mexico good for
• 36:41
  him. Thank you Mike Mahon appreciate
• 36:42
  you listening first of all and helping out as you've done for
• 36:45
  well decades. That's.
• 36:46
  A rock'n'roll right there. It is your place of the day are
• 36:49
  next NIT did not go well for you last.
• 36:52
  Night, 1:00 and 1:00. One and one again.
• 36:53
  Just can't get over it. Health two and two for the week.
• 36:56
  Here's a good thing we're two more than two games tonight.
• 36:59
  Oh, there is, because we got baseball.
• 37:01
  There's. 1. But we got a prop, you do.
• 37:05
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  NIT games tonight are on the docket.
• 37:57
  I also tried to find a number in the WNIT tonight.
• 38:01
  I couldn't find one. But I'm going to play Dayton
• 38:04
  against Illinois State. We got the NVC match up MVC mate
• 38:08
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• 38:11
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• 38:13
  saw with Illinois State against both Drake and you and I that
• 38:16
  has tainted my view of them. But I've been out on the first
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  couple of rounds. I'm going to do the same here.
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  Give me the Flyers minus the 7 1/2.
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  Now, we've talked earlier about emotional hedges and I'm just so
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  sick of seeing Steve Alford so. Betting Auburn.
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  I know I'll go the other way. I'm going.
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  To betting on. Alford, yes.
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  So if I have to see him again, well, at least I'll make a
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  little bit of money here. I'm getting 9, though, which
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  actually does feel pretty hefty. 9 for the Wolfpack.
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  You mean Nevada with pick number 22 plays in baseball, taking the
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  Yankees on the buddy line. Now, like, we talk about this
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  every year, but I know we have a lot of new listeners out there.
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  We talk about Circa all the time and when it comes to football
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  season, look, the difference is very negligible.
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  Might be 2 1/2 someplace, three others.
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  But if you are betting baseball on a daily basis or maybe just
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  bet a game every weekend, whatever it is, you are leaving
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  money on the table. Not having the Circa Sports app.
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  It is a difference every single day.
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  A majority of the games you're going to get a better price.
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  So there's 15 on the docket, usually 910 just alone on the
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  money line. A better price, including today
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  -118 is what I'm playing with the Yankees.
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  Go to a couple big brands. You're like -130 that 12 cent
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  difference even if you're a Nickelodeon like.
• 39:34
  One of the big brands -126. Yeah, it's game after game after
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  game. Not every time, but a majority
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  of the time I would say that's going to do it.
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  And for somebody that does bait bet baseball on the daily, the
• 39:48
  Circa Sports app is a must if you're playing baseball.
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  No doubt. We talked about the futures last
• 39:54
  week, Cabrera to win the Cy Young.
• 39:56
  Huge difference. At the big shops, 5060 to 1,
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  Capy used a boost to get it to 75 to 1.
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  Didn't have to use a boost at circa.
• 40:04
  It's 90 to one. That's what it was a week ago,
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  and I also made that wager. I decided to tail Capy on that
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  one. That's what you're going to get
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  with Circa. So will you watch baseball
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  tonight? It'll be on one of the TV's,
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  will it? Yes.
• 40:17
  How am I going to convince Cindy not to watch Netflix?
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  Because we we only for whatever reason, if she's watching, I
• 40:23
  can't. Oh, you got like just a single
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  stream. I have no idea what we.
• 40:27
  Have. That's probably not that.
• 40:28
  I can't watch it when she's watching Netflix.
• 40:30
  Yeah, because there's certain ones, depending on the plan that
• 40:32
  you have, you can only stream at one time or you can't download,
• 40:35
  and that must be the one that you have.
• 40:37
  Well, there's other things. Tell her to flip on Hulu or HBO
• 40:41
  or but you guys got a bunch of things we.
• 40:43
  Do we? Do I just?
• 40:44
  She can't watch The Real Housewives just on DIRECTV.
• 40:46
  I. Don't think she watches that.
• 40:48
  No, I have no idea what she watches.
• 40:50
  You have no clue I really. Truly don't.
• 40:53
  No. You know what she watches the
• 40:54
  The Grey show, the Doctor show, the Grey's Anatomy.
• 40:58
  Grey's Anatomy. That's only once a week though.
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  No idea what she watches I I do know the word out of.
• 41:04
  Time Oh, Logan Webb over strikeouts as well.
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  Oh, how many? 6 1/2?
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  All right, lot of kids can track and I got stuff a Cy Young
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  future on that dude too. Play ball tomorrow.
• 41:15
  Bobby Hansen, Stephen M Simple amongst the guest list that will
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  join Trenton I Trenton I with you Monday through Friday, noon
• 41:22
  to two to talk sports with you. Thanks for being with us on the
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  Iowa Sports Radio Network.