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Viva Las Vegas! (Let's Marry Harry EP 5 & 6 Recap) · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome back to kind of Famous. I'm Deanna
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  Speaker 2: Pappas and I'm here with my producer, Heather. We are
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  Speaker 2: getting closer and closer to the end of Let's Marry Harry.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a little sad. These episodes.
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  Speaker 2: We got a lot of vulnerability, a steamy shower situation,
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  Speaker 2: some little sensity action, and we also got to meet
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  Speaker 2: the family Heather.
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  Speaker 1: It was a lot to kind of unpack. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: into it, but I was texting you while I was watching,
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  Speaker 1: going why am I crying?
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  Speaker 3: You're so funny to this show.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm really empathetic in a lot of ways,
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  Speaker 1: and it's hard for me when I see other people crying.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I was in my feels last
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  Speaker 3: night when I was watching. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I just kept being like, I'm crying. I am crying
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  Speaker 1: over this show and this is so silly. But before
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  Speaker 1: we get too deep into the recap, I did want
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  Speaker 1: to mention that it was announced that there will be
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  Speaker 1: a reunion for this show and it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: hosted by TikToker influencer Hailey Bailey and it will be
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday, August twenty six, at nine pm on Netflix,
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  Speaker 1: just out of curiosity. Do you know who Hailey Bailey is?
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen her on social media quite a bit. She's
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  Speaker 2: pretty funny, and she has kind of like really come
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  Speaker 2: out in the last year, Like I see her hosting
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  Speaker 2: Red Carpets and other shows, so like this, her social
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  Speaker 2: media has quite literally made her career.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my knowledge of her was about her kind of
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  Speaker 1: getting lightly canceled roasted last year for the met Gala.
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  Speaker 1: She did a whole thing about she was like dressed
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  Speaker 1: like Marie Antoine and then she used like let them
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  Speaker 1: eat cake or something, and people were like this has
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  Speaker 1: incense it And I'm not disagreeing. I'm just saying, like
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  Speaker 1: what the comments were, whereas like this is insensitive. People
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  Speaker 1: can't afford food right now, what are you doing? And
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  Speaker 1: so anyways, but she is gorgeous and I think pretty positive.
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  Speaker 3: Not gonna look it up right now, but I'm pretty
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  Speaker 3: positive she's divorced. I am not sure about that either.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: None of that matters to me. I'm just so thrilled
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  Speaker 2: that they are doing a reunion show.
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  Speaker 3: I need that.
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  Speaker 2: I need shows to be buttoned up, and that is
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  Speaker 2: like a pet peeve of mine. When there is a
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  Speaker 2: show and they don't do a reunion, we don't get
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  Speaker 2: to see them come back together and find out who's
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  Speaker 2: still together, who's not, or even just or.
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  Speaker 1: Even the Love Island one, which still it's been filmed
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  Speaker 1: now and it is not going to be out until
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  Speaker 1: the end of August. Why my only I don't know
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  Speaker 1: why they waited so long to film it. I can understand, right,
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  Speaker 1: because this show that we're watching right now, this was
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  Speaker 1: clearly filmed a while ago, right, which means that it's
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  Speaker 1: very like that they're filming the reunion what this week
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  Speaker 1: maybe and if it's or next week, and then it's airing,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like we said on the twenty sixth. So
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  Speaker 1: with Love Island, the show is so close to when
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  Speaker 1: it's airing.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they're like, we have to have a break, like
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I just but I feel like it's too long.
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  Speaker 1: Like I feel like now they've like some of them
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  Speaker 1: have gone out there. They really buckled down on them
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  Speaker 1: though this season. I can tell because some of them
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  Speaker 1: have done like a little bit of press, but they're
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  Speaker 1: really not letting them go out there and do podcasts
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  Speaker 1: like they did last year. But I feel like there's
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  Speaker 1: too much time passing to where I'm like, is anybody
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  Speaker 1: still going to be together from that show? So anyways,
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  Speaker 1: can't wait for that reunion, but really excited for this
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  Speaker 1: one and really excited to hopefully talk to some of
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  Speaker 1: the gals from this season. Me too. I'm like so excited.
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  Speaker 1: That would be really fun. But I'll let you kick
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  Speaker 1: it off with episode five.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, episode five opens with the women getting ready and
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  Speaker 2: Juliana is feeling relieved that Harry let hers stay.
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  Speaker 3: Were you shocked that she got to stay? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like I think I said last time, like
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  Speaker 1: I don't see the connection.
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  Speaker 3: I don't see the vibe.
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  Speaker 1: And I also when he's talking about like that, she
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  Speaker 1: brings out the toxic. I just don't even think that
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  Speaker 1: he's into it. Like I just feel like he's like, Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're yeah, No you love me?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, just the epitome of toxicity.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's fine, we're gonna see more about her and
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  Speaker 2: their relationship anyway. So it's a group date and it's
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  Speaker 2: a compatibility test. They you know, they're gonna start checking
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  Speaker 2: out their vulnerability, how vulnerable these women can can be,
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  Speaker 2: and hopefully Harry too. So the mentors want to see
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  Speaker 2: the women men get below the surface with Harry. They'll
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  Speaker 2: read uh statements, the mentors will and if they read
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  Speaker 2: a statement that applies to the women, they have to
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  Speaker 2: stand up. After this, two women will go on solo
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  Speaker 2: dates with Harry. So we start to see all of.
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  Speaker 3: This going on. I don't I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that I loved this, Heather, but but
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  Speaker 2: we'll see, right, Maybe it's something that Harry needed to see,
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  Speaker 2: as he's still questioning some of these women.
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  Speaker 3: So what didn't you like about this? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It just feels I guess the show.
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  Speaker 2: For me, I get it like Harry's trying to get
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  Speaker 2: married and he wants kids. Like I hear it all
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  Speaker 2: the time. His wife, he wants a wife can read it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into it later.
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  Speaker 3: But my love everything was.
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  Speaker 1: I love?
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  Speaker 3: How are you? My love? And I'm just like the
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  Speaker 3: pet names. No, I just love it. I love it
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  Speaker 3: so much. I usually love Harry. I do love it, Harry,
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  Speaker 3: I think I do love You're in the mar watch
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  Speaker 3: it and Donnelle and de Brayley. You all love Harry.
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  Speaker 3: I think I do. I think I do love Harry.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it happens here with the vulnerability. We see a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me why you don't like it. It's the ups
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  Speaker 3: and downs of this show, which makes great reality.
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  Speaker 2: TV, to be honest, but it's the ups and downs,
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  Speaker 2: Like one minute we're getting f boy Harry. The next
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  Speaker 2: minute we're getting the Harry who wants to get married
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  Speaker 2: and have children. And the same with the girls. We're getting,
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  Speaker 2: you know, one second Sam, who's twenty four and she
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  Speaker 2: really wants to try and get married. But then she's like,
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  Speaker 2: come on, Harry, I saw and I heard you and
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  Speaker 2: that girl in the shower.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you dare lie to me. I wanted to take
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  Speaker 3: Sam and be like, girl, you're on a reality show.
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  Speaker 3: He is dating twenty different women. You are just one
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  Speaker 3: of twenty.
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  Speaker 1: So you just don't like that the show isn't just
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  Speaker 1: like consistently silly, or that they're trying to you feel
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  Speaker 1: like they're trying to put like an emotional.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're trying to make it something that it's not. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: got you got so much? Although I appreciated in other
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  Speaker 2: reality shows, it feels very fitting in The Bachelor World, right,
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  Speaker 2: it feels very fitting in this show. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: this vulnerability compatibility test fits.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure that it clocks.
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  Speaker 1: So my issue, my only issue with this is when
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  Speaker 1: some of the gals started to get up and share,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, why am I hearing about this in
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  Speaker 1: episode five? And why didn't I hear you share this
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff in your first little one on one
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  Speaker 1: chat with him? That kind of bums me out because
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, wait, I've been kind of like not
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  Speaker 1: knowing who you are and not rooting for you early
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  Speaker 1: on when I could have gotten more depth about you
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  Speaker 1: early on and connection, and that could mean that this
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  Speaker 1: stuff was shared with Harry, but they chose to edit
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  Speaker 1: it out and just keep it until now you know,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll talk about it. But like one of the
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  Speaker 1: first things is they ask if you've ever been, you know,
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  Speaker 1: told that you're too much or not doing enough? And
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  Speaker 1: Amber says, you know that she's been told in past
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  Speaker 1: relationships that she's too much and that she's sassy, And
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  Speaker 1: Harry stands up and says that he's been told in
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  Speaker 1: past relationships that he's not giving enough and not sharing
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  Speaker 1: his feelings enough. Everybody stands up and says that they
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  Speaker 1: resonate with the idea of trying to hold it all
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  Speaker 1: together when actually falling apart, which I think does sound
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  Speaker 1: like pretty relatable for a lot of people. Emma shares
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  Speaker 1: that she fell for someone who didn't feel the same way.
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  Speaker 1: Sam says she was in an eight year relationship with
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  Speaker 1: someone who didn't feel the same way about her.
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  Speaker 3: Sam. I can't remember how old you are, but twenty four.
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  Speaker 3: I did the math too, and I watched this.
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  Speaker 2: I thought she's twenty four or if she was with
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  Speaker 2: someone for eight years, so starting at what like sixteen?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not great at math, but somewhere around sixteen or
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  Speaker 2: seventeen years old, that's when this relationship started.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I was a baby. I was a
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  Speaker 3: baby until like two years ago, like mentally, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't like to count those high school ones. They don't
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  Speaker 3: really don't they don't care, don't really matter.
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  Speaker 1: Denell shares that she doesn't think she's ever been in love,
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  Speaker 1: and she shares that two of her exes have cheated
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  Speaker 1: on her. I want to go back to something I
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  Speaker 1: said in the last episode, when I said, Ellie, who
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  Speaker 1: are you blah, blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: You look, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I said that she looked significantly, you know, older comparatively
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  Speaker 1: to the other girls.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with being older. I was just making a statement, Danell,
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  Speaker 3: isn't she thirty three? She's thirty three?
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  Speaker 1: What in the actual I did not clock that she
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  Speaker 1: was thirty three?
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  Speaker 3: I did.
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  Speaker 2: Those two both stood out for me, And maybe that's
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  Speaker 2: the ick for me, is that if we had learned
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  Speaker 2: these things pretty early on versus like seeing them now
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  Speaker 2: when we're down to what final five or six?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Maybe that's what makes it
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  Speaker 3: feel not right for me? Is that right?
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  Speaker 2: We're just learning this? But I immediately thought that about Danelle.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, she's thirty three years old? Should I'd
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  Speaker 2: love like ten people by them. I didn't even catch
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  Speaker 2: it at this point in the episode. I caught it,
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe in episode six, when I like.
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  Speaker 1: Must have been looking at the screen and seeing her
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  Speaker 1: age pop up.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, what, yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And then Juliana shares that her dad passed away during COVID.
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  Speaker 1: Now this is where I paused, because I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this had to have been shared when they had their
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  Speaker 1: one on one moment and he was talking about his dad,
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  Speaker 1: and she was saying, like, he's really proud of you.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about like, tell me about your dad. Like
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  Speaker 1: she had to have opened up, and she really just
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  Speaker 1: chose not to air it because I had to think
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  Speaker 1: back to that moment. It was a very quick moment.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way, there's no way she just let him
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  Speaker 1: be vulnerable like that with her, and she said nothing
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  Speaker 1: about a shared experience.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she has to, she has to do so.
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  Speaker 2: From a production standpoint, Heather, I don't understand why they
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  Speaker 2: didn't show that moment because I think as.
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  Speaker 1: A viewer, you can't ask me that question because I've
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  Speaker 1: never worked in post or editing, and sometimes I really
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  Speaker 1: don't understand the decisions that are made.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like in that moment, that would have been
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  Speaker 2: a good opportunity to fall in love with a person
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  Speaker 2: on the show as a viewer, You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you this.
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  Speaker 1: It would have given another layer to Juliana that could
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  Speaker 1: have been talked about in Harry's one on one interviews
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  Speaker 1: because he keeps talking about she's bringing out my toxic side.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like who I am with her, but I
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  Speaker 1: want to use her essentially to to train myself and
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  Speaker 1: to test myself could have also been Juliana and I
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  Speaker 1: have this shared experience which has allowed me to get
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  Speaker 1: really close to her, and so even though I feel
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  Speaker 1: some of my toxic traits coming out, I still do
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  Speaker 1: have this emotional connection to her because so many people
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  Speaker 1: are in the house are wondering why he kept her around,
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  Speaker 1: like this extra layer could have been useful in that storytelling.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that that is a disservice when they've
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  Speaker 1: kind of watered a lot of these women's stories down.
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  Speaker 1: We kind of find out through this, you know, compatibility
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  Speaker 1: test because then Amber shares that she's also lost her
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  Speaker 1: dad when she was nine years old, and I was like, again,
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  Speaker 1: I love that we know that Amber is divorced. And
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  Speaker 1: by the way, it all goes back to Bachelor Nation.
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  Speaker 1: You probably don't know this, but I saw this the
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  Speaker 1: other day and I forgot to bring this up. Amber
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  Speaker 1: is connected to somebody in Bachelor Nation. It's actually kind
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  Speaker 1: of funny because when you think about it, uh, they're
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  Speaker 1: not related, but they look similar. So people were saying
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: to Litia gar who was Grant's runner up, you have
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  Speaker 1: a literal twin sister on Let's marry Harry and turns
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  Speaker 1: out she's Mormon too. Letia has posted this video of
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  Speaker 1: the two of them together on a beach.
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  Speaker 3: Oh how funny. So we will have.
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  Speaker 1: To hopefully we're able to get Amber on the podcast
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  Speaker 1: because I would love to know how she knows Latia.
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  Speaker 1: But it's so funny that everything leads back to The
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor and uh Amber, because I think Amber is from Utah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this ancestral Actually I thought she was from Hawaii,
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  Speaker 2: but this ancestral world. Yeah, but I think doesn't she
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  Speaker 2: live in Utah or she did? I forget the connection,
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  Speaker 2: but I think she's originally from Hawaii. So if she's
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  Speaker 2: in Utah, now I'm unsure.
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  Speaker 1: There's got to be because she's also connected to Taylor
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  Speaker 1: Frankie Paul.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like on her socials is she still Mormon?
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  Speaker 3: So if she stands a chance to marry Harry, no
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  Speaker 3: she's not.
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  Speaker 1: Because remember there was like she talked when she told
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  Speaker 1: Harry about her why she got married so young, and
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  Speaker 1: when she divorced, she talked about it being heavily influenced
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: by the religion. And then I think she said she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't associate with organized religion anymore. Yes, you're right, So anyways,
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  Speaker 1: I just thought that was don't you fiel though with that,
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  Speaker 1: like we have built a relationship with Amber Toltally, we
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  Speaker 1: weren't the other women.
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  Speaker 2: We weren't given the opportunity, like even to know we
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  Speaker 2: might feel differently about her had we learned some of
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  Speaker 2: this stuff early on, or even Juliana.
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  Speaker 3: But if we had been given the opportunity to, I
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  Speaker 3: think we would have. I think we would have understood
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  Speaker 3: Harry's connection more. Two.
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  Speaker 1: It just I think it, And there's there's never enough
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  Speaker 1: time to give everybody on screen time, Like we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into some of these other girls who I'm just like,
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  Speaker 1: who are you?
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  Speaker 3: Why are you here? What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: And clearly they don't have stories, but the ones that
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: do we should be building up because I think right
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: now it's when we get to end of episode six,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: it's pretty obvious who the top two are gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, based on like kind of the setup setup
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  Speaker 1: that they're doing. But I feel like we could have
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: been rooting for certain people earlier on than we are now,
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  Speaker 1: because again, like I said, it's episode five, we could
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  Speaker 1: have been some of.
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  Speaker 2: The episode five and we don't know who to root
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  Speaker 2: for that feels like a little bit of a problem
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  Speaker 2: to make I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: So anyways, going back, Amber says that she lost her
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  Speaker 1: dad when she was nine years old and he was
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: a underwater photographer and he died from drowning. And that
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: is if you remember. Amber is now a photographer. So there,
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  Speaker 1: she gets into that later. But so the mentors then
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  Speaker 1: ask them to write one word down on a tile
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  Speaker 1: that is their deepest insecurity in a relationship, and then
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  Speaker 1: they have to stand up, say what it is, and
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  Speaker 1: then throw it away. Amber says loss, Juliana says settling,
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  Speaker 1: Emma says settling interesting. And they were sitting right next
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  Speaker 1: to each other copycats. Maya says infidelity, Danelle says trust.
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  Speaker 1: Sam says resent not resentment resent.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I just thought that maybe I was nuts, But
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  Speaker 2: I struggled with that too.
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  Speaker 3: I was staring at my my document.
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  Speaker 1: Wanted to correct me in what I was writing, and
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  Speaker 1: I said no. She said resent not literally out loud,
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  Speaker 1: was like, it's resentment. I have a few myself. It's
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  Speaker 1: resent mint Uh huh. Abby says abandonment and Harry says
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  Speaker 1: lose love. And then so the two the mentors choose
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  Speaker 1: that the two solo date winners are Amber and Sam,
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  Speaker 1: which I'm not going to do a whole long deep dive,
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  Speaker 1: but I would probably assume that Amber and Sam have
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: not had any sort of individual one on one time
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  Speaker 1: compared to the other girls. And so again that's a
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: part of this is like, now we have to give
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: people screen time because we're anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Harry and Amber, they're cute together.
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  Speaker 3: I really like them.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: They drive to a hill at sunset where they can
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: see downtown LA and I literally had written down in
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  Speaker 2: my notes this is dreamy, Like this felt very Bachelor
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  Speaker 2: esque to me, like the whole drive up, then you
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  Speaker 2: see all the lights in the background.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: They have wine.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: They talk about Amber's career as a fat potographer, and
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: they kid. I didn't see the two of them from
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the first episode, but I can see this natural connection
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: kind of growing as a viewer, and I think that
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: this date kind of solidified that for me. There's this
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: big screen right on the top of the hill right there,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: and Harry plays it. It's a slide show of pictures
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: of Amber throughout her life and a little video from
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: her family.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I thought this was a.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Really sweet moment. We haven't seen a lot of like
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: sweet moments yet on this show, and I thought this
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: was a very sweet moment and it allows me, in
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: particular to see this is.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Where I cried for the second time. Watch stop it
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: did you really? Yeah?
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Because remember it was very like I was tearing up
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: over the challenge when these people were sharing, not the challenge,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the compatibility test, when people were sharing stuff that made
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: me tear up. And then this seeing pictures of her dad,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: it was it made me.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: It made me cry. She wasn't even crying.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Well, no, they both get pretty emotional. They both get
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: pretty emotional.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, she I think she gets emotional when her family
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: pops up in the video. But at first she's just like, oh,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: look my dad, like so sweet. And you do get
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to a point where you're not crying every single time
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you see your past parent.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I know that, But I.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Think it was just so on the heels of her
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: sharing that that I was just like, oh my gosh,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: there he is and it was like a picture of
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: her like little with him. Yeah, and it just really
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: like it got me. I was just like it was hard.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, she's so she was so young to
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: have lost her dad.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I live for moments like this where we get
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: to kind of see that, like that show really break down.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I live for moments like this in television shows, and
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Amber has that really strong persona. We have seen it
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: from the very beginning. I actually didn't think looking back,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: was she going to make it this far in the show.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: She was not one of my top contenders. I'm still
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: thinking back to that moment where she was in the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: hallway and she's telling Harry like, I don't know about
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: all of this. You really need to show up for me.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking back to that moment, but it also.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Like that's that was her flirting though.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: But watching all of this stuff go through now, I
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: kind of can see why Amber is the way that
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: she is, with the things that she has been through
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and the things that she has gone through, I kind
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: of see why she is the way she is now,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, So they both get very emotional over that,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: So you weren't the only one crying, Heather. But then
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: a video of Harry throughout his life plays and Harry
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: is all like, oh.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: This is making me cry again. Harry. You love him.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: He is so in touch with his emotions. Do you
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: love that about him?
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Yes? I do, and yeah, I wrote this is making
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: me again.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: It was this. It was the shots of his dad.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: And seeing him being a little boy on his dad's
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: shoulders and stuff, and I was just like, this.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Is too much for me.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Right now, we're like, we're talking about like feelings, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: then we're talking now we're seeing footage and you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Harry talks about how that is like a strong connection
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: now with Amber, Yeah, and that she thinks he's way
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: more than she thought he would ever be, and then
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: they kiss again. But yeah, I think what's cute about
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: their connection is that they're both surprised in the other.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think they had the other one figured out
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: like right off the bat. And I think that the
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: peeling back the layers is exciting for both of them,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: as they're kind of like getting to know each other.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: The next day, though, Harry says he woke up in
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: a really good mood. He says the date with Amber
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: was the most perfect date he's ever been on. That's
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: a big statement, Harry. But he still has to go
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: on his date with Sam. So he goes on his
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: date with Sam and they go to horse the horse
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: stables to feed horses.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Sam goes, remember what I said my favorite position was,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and he's all cowgirl and tell me more. And it's like,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: so that was a fun little tidbit, I guess Sam
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: to remind us all and I wrote, here, Harry's hair
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: looks so good on this date, nice swoosh, and I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: am a sucker for like curly hair, wavy hair, and
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: just Harry's hair is looking so good in this episode.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I couldn't.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I think I was just like fixated because later on
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: different dates, his hair is not on point as they
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I'll give you.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: There are sometimes I look at him and I think
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: he's so attractive, and then there are other times I
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: look at him and I think he looks and I
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's just because I'm so much older,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: like a little boy, Like I would feel like I'm
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: like dating a little boy because there are some moments
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and we're going to get to it. Because I texted
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: you a few times last night I wanted to know
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: if you were there yet. Where I look at him
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: and I'm just like, oh, he's such a baby, Like
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: he's such a baby.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: It's so funny.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I don't look at him like a baby because he's
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: so ravenous tall and just like built that. I'm just like,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, But I'll tell you what I don't like.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I don't like the baggy jeans that they putting him in.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you are so cute, and then they
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: put you in these baggy jeans and you look they
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: look like they're swallowing you. I just I can't with
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the baggy jeans. It's very trendy right now.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Though it's very trendy, but you're right, I want to
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: see him a little bit more.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: But Paul, you noticed how I always write in the
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: elimination episodes. I'm always like elimination ceremonies. I'm like, oh,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Harry looks so hot. Harry looks so good. And that's
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: because those are his like tailored looks that he's always in.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: He's not wearing baggy jeans to the elimination ceremony. But anyways,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Uh Sam says she grew up with a lot of
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: tough love and she actually doesn't like to be vulnerable
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: in share because she doesn't like to be kind of
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: like seen like a victim.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Which I get.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: And she opens up that her dad struggled with his
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: mental health.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: And Harry asks her.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: You know, he recalls what she said the day before
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: in the compatibility thing, and he says, you know, you
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: brought up a mother figure that had passed away that
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: you didn't get to say goodbye to, like, would you
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: mind telling me more about her?
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: And I thought that was sweet.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: And she she opens up and says, you know, that
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: was actually my ex's mom, and you know they He
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: asks her kind of like how she got to you know,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: how she navigated that. The response I thought was she
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: wasn't expecting that question. And I think that the answer
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: was she didn't navigate it. It seemed like a very
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: hard year for her, is what she said, which is fine,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: not expecting, like, you know, young people to understand how
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: to process and go through emotions like that.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I think what we get there is like the depth
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: yet because Sam is still so young, you know what
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, We're kind of only getting one side of her,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: is what I feel like. And listen, she's so gorgeous,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: she's so hot. The chemistry between the two of them
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: is truly undeniable. But we're just getting this one dimension
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: of her at this point. But I have to remind
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: myself that she is still very young. You know what
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, that kind of emotional maturity and the depth
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: that happens. Yeah, it's taken I don't know them still there,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, It's taken me decades.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're going to get to it. But then
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: they start to really make her one note for this
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: episode and the next there's some really bad ADR that
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: goes on in this scene and Sam says that she
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: owns an indoor soccer arena. Were you shocked? I was, like,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: well I was. I was shocked by how bad the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: ADR sounded. And then again throwing all these nuggets out
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: at us about these people that we could have known
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: much earlier in the process, Like that could have been
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: on her lower third.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: It's her job title. Literally, that's what I mean.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Like could have been on the screen like the entire
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: time she's been on the show, but they've chosen not to.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: So yeah, Like we see the back of her head.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: And we hear her saying I own an indoor soccer arena,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: like the most straight saying of it, and Harry says
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that he likes that about her because he has a
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: sports team.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Did you know that? I am literally like I need
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: to have better goals? And aspirations. She's twenty four, he's
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: twenty eight. He's got a sports team and she owns a.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Soccer I don't know. I don't know how the kids.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing something right in life. They're not podcasting Harry,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Harry is actually oh, Harry is sorry. Yeah. Oops. They kiss,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: they kids, and then.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Back at the house, Harry and Sam return from their
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: date and Emma says she's struggling to not compare her
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: connection to other women and Juliana. Juliana is feeling frustrated
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: because she is doing all the legwork in this connection
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: with Harry, and she wants Harry to show some initiative.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And then I wrote, Juliana is having this conversation with
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the back of Abby's head because Abby is not interested
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: in this whatsoever, like does not care.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: This bit was edited so well for me because you
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: see the disdain in Juliana, and you literally can see Abby,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: who is like I want out, Like she is like
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: literally head turned, like she's looking at a producer.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: She's like, I'm all done, tapped out.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I think she also like talks of interviewing, like girl,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: like we're kind of all not in this together, like
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: we're all trying to marry Harry, So what are you
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: talking about? Then Emma pulls Harry for a chat and Emma,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: my love, it's it's not there.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: It's it's not there, and uh, you know, we all.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: See it and we feel it. But she does too.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: That's the thing is she feels like because she thinks
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: he's cute and she doesn't want to be like just lose.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: She doesn't want to lose and she doesn't want to
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: be like, hey, clearly you're vibing with the other girls
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: stronger than me, and I want a guy that's going
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: to like choose me, and so I don't think it's
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: in the stars for us, So I'm going to go,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: you know, and like instead, she like pulls in for
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: a chat and she's like, you know, do you want
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: to date somebody who's like the option sid of you?
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: And he's like.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Like, he's like, I guess he says he's like open
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: to it or whatever.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Some of these conversations like this, I want to like
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: take the girls and shake him and say, oh, I
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: get where you are, but like remember who you are.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: This just looks desperate, It just does. It just looks desperate, right,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: And what we don't get to be is we don't
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: get to be desperate girls.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: No, And she's like this thing is that she feels it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: She's just not listening to her inner voice because later
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: again she kind of like is saying an interview like
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: she knows it, yeah, and she allows herself to kind
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: of fill in the blank spaces in her you know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: in these conversations with the idealistic things. But Harry and Juliana, Oh,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: this is the good stuff. This is that good stuff.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Juliana goes up to Harry's room to talk.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: It's almost like that like to like gimme more, but
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: also like, oh my god, this is so bad, it's
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: so mad.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I hope we get to talk to Juliana. I really do.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Because there's other things that I've seen on socials that
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I am just like, I want to.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Talk to you about this.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: She says that she's not sure what's going on in
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Harry's head, and he says like, I, you know, I
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: really like you, and he feels like she's pressuring him
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to say love and he says, we can't do that,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: like there's still way too many girls here can't do that. Well,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: first of all, Harry, there being too many girls. There
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: should not even be a part of this. It's literally,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: we are.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Not there yet. I am not saying I don't know you.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: This felt very like childlike to me, like very like
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: middle school, early high school.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: It felt very childlike to me.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, and then he's saying an interview he doesn't want
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: to tell her how he feels, which going back to
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the previous episode where he was saying she likes me
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: more than I like her, after saying she's my number
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: one pick.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: It's like, Harry, be consistent. We like consistency. They kiss Heather.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: She whispers, I love you. Listen. He responds, that is
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: a statement. That's a statement.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't have done that, and then he keeps telling
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: her that she shouldn't have said that. I always like
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Like aboart, aboart, aboart a board, but Heather, Heather. Then
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: he says, he says, because.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I love you what I was watching like this, I
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: don't think I've ever given a sympathy.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I love you you you then have to take it back.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: He literally is like, okay, because I love you? What
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: what it's so bad?
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: And she gobbles that up absce, which is which is nuts,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: like you had to bait him into saying that, and
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: you keep saying like I feel it, like I know it.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: This is called love bombing.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Do you remember you and I having this conversation and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: him saying, Oh, I feel like I'm love bombing her.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, this is love bombing. She's love bombing him. Yes. Yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: He in the when he tried to send her home
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: in the last episode, he was saying, well, it's because
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I think I'm love bombing her. This is love bombing.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: She is love bombing him right now.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: In this moment, Juliana, it seems like you're really in
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: it to win it in this moment like this, to
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: me is a prime example of getting down to the finals,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: and it's less about am I building a connection and
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: more about am I going to win? And Juliana is
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: giving in it to win it? To me the vibes.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: So the funniest part is that Abby interrupts this whole
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: weird I love you conversation and Juliana is like, Okay,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I'll see you later, and immediately he picks up Abby,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: throws her onto the bed, and just starts making out
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: with her.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: It is a very weird.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Chain of events and he's literally an interview being like,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: if I loved you, how could I be literally making
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: out with this other girl right now?
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: It was crazy, Harry, you said it, not us, but
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: you said it, bro.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: But it was crazy almost like I'd rather be making
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: out with anybody right now than like continuing to sit
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: here and talk to you about your feelings. It's honestly,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: as much as I dislike the action, I feel as
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: a viewer that I am getting inside the brain of
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: a toxic boy, dismissive avoidant, Like I'm getting inside the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: brain of how this man operates, which I think is
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: how indicative of how other men operate.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: And so I'm kind of just being like, this is
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: why they do this. This is the fairy's telling me.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: He's giving me all the secrets. This is why I'm single. Yes,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: this is why I'm single. I cannot be trusted Hi, And.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I'm just going I'm just going, oh my gosh, oh
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: my gosh. Because and that's what's interesting I think about
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Harry is that he can go and do something this
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: is diabolical, this is not okay, and then earlier in
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the same day be pouring his heart out, being emotionally
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: vulnulnerable and when he's emotionally vulnerable, because there are people
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: men and women out there who will gladly hand over
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the emotional vulnerable card early on, maybe too early, in
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: order to gain sympathy or to gain attraction, just like
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: some people love bomb in order to gain you know,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: a feeling of you know, being desired or whatever. I
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: don't feel that that's the case with Harry. When he's
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: emotionally opening up, I don't feel like it's to gain.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I really do feel like it's part of his healing process.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: And I think that from my own experience, I will
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: say that I used to not open up about certain
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: aspects of my life, and then it got to a
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: point where I was liked and I just didn't care
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: anymore because I couldn't even fake, like I couldn't fake
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: being happy or I couldn't fake being okay with it.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: So it was kind of just like either you can
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: hang and you can handle the fact that I'm going
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: to talk about this, or you're just going to leave whatever.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I think what's happening with Harry is like he's he's
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: opening up, but you're seeing though. I think as this
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: process goes on and on that the ones that don't
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: have any sort of vulnerability or emotional thing that they
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: connect with him on, he's kind of just over it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: And I don't blame him. I don't blame him.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Again, I think it's very difficult to go through the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: kind of experience that he did and not be impacted
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: for the rest of your life.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And how a natural progression on exactly. And it's honestly,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: reality TV is such a science experiment and I just like,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: really quickly, it is such a science experiment about human nature,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: and it really is the progression of the show. You
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: come in and you think, oh, I'm going to just
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: show this one side of me, and then you get
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: a little comfortable and you just naturally show all parts
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: good and bad.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: But that's just human nature.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: That's in real life too, whether we're seeing it on
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: a reality show or not.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: That's what you hope for anyway.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Well, you definitely if we were all just like,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: if this show was just silly, goofy the entire time,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: we would be like, what are we rooting for? But
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the fact that there's now this emotional element added it
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: gives I'm rooting, like I said, I'm rooting for Harry.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: So while Harry and Abby are upstairs making out, Juliana
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: goes downstairs to join Emma Maya, and then eventually Abby
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: joins after the makeup, and Juliana tells all the other
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: girls she got Harry to be vulnerable and he said
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: he loved her.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Do you see all the girls' faces. They're immediately questioning
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: their entire life? What am I doing here?
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Yes? And that's exactly what she wanted. Juliana.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: It's a masterful play of being in it to win it,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: because you literally went down there and scared the sh
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: out of all of your competition right away, and you
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: also fibbed a little bit like you he said he
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: loved you. Yeah, because you sat there and you said
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: it first, and you would not leave until he would
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: say it.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: It is a prime example of hearing what you want to.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think that she was lying. And I wonder
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: if she watches back as she like WHOA, because she
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: heard what she wanted to.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: But she's fibbing when she says he told me he
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: loved me. She's you, and I know that.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I really don't think that she is aware. I really
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: don't think that she's aware of it.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I just mean she's fibbing in the sense that like
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: she said it first, and she's like not telling that
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: to the other girls, Like I said it first and
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: he said it back to me, versus I went up
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: there and he told me he loved me. Like that's
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: a there's a very big distinct difference between those two
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: situations that I just said, So yeah, yeah, Abby was
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: like I thought I was.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: In a good place with him. I did that.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: She's thinking, like you told he said he loved you
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: and then he made out with me, Like I would
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: also be like, excuse me, but all the girls are
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: basically like if he's like into you, then like he
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: should just tell you that and like we should go.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: So Abby in the next day is like, hey, Harry,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: like let's talk because I already know that you said
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the L word to Juliana, and Harry says this reaction
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: is funny. Harry says some of his relationships are fun
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: and some are serious, and some are in the middle
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: or Harry, okay, goldilocks.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: This is where Harry is like, I don't know what
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: to say at this moment. I love that you're calling
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: it Goldilocks.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what that was just then, and he
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: reassures Abby not to worry, and Harry says he regrets
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: what he said to Juliana and he doesn't think that
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: they bring out the best in each other.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: So he's over it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: He's for sure over it too, when he knows that
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: she just ran downstairs and told the other girls like well.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Also, he made himself clear in an earlier episode that
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: he didn't like when girls did that, and so I
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: wonder if in that moment he was just like, well,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I should have been a big boy in this moment,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: but I.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Was not a big boy.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: And now he's backpedaling, thinking how is he going to
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: get out of this situation?
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I've never been a victim of love bombing, but I
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: have told somebody I love them and not had the
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: response back. And I think that Harry is one hundred
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: percent capable of not being susceptible to that, and so
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: it does make me wonder a little bit, like, I
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: don't know, I've.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Been the receiver.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Someone has told me that they loved me and I
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: was not there yet, But I.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Need you didn't I didn't say it back god.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I also was like, how could you possibly love me?
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: We haven't known each other long enough or whatever. It
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: was a normal response, Yeah, but I didn't say it back,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: but right, what do you say? I was like, oh,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: thank you?
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: What do you say? I think thank you tends to
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: be the common response.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Harry goes to meet with his mentors and tells them
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: about his dates with Amber and Sam, and Harry thinks
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: that Sam came prepared to their date with questions to
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: ask him, which he says he liked, and he likes
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: that Danelle stays out of the drama. And then Harry
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: tells them how Julia said she loved him, and Harry
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: feels conflicted now because did you notice when he tells
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: them the situation, He's like, I said I love and
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: then I stopped. Yeah, but that's not true.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: That's not true.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: So we get a little fibbing from Juliana, but we
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: also get a little fibbing.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: From a boy Harry too. No, yeah, that is not
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: what he said. I know.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: And then Georgia and Amanda are like, you have to
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: correct this, like, now, this is insane.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Did you see Georgie's face?
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: She like looked like horrified that he said that she
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: was just like what I.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Actually was, Like, is she mad that he never said
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: it to her? There's no way.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: There's absolutely no way he dated her for a year
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and didn't say it to her.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I've dated people for a year and
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: not said I love you. You're not Harry, You're not Harry.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I think Harry is like he said he's a love
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: bomber in the past.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: I think he for sure said it to Georgia. Okay Amaya.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: They talk about how she wasn't empathetic during the compatibility,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: like during the mentor challenge.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I honestly, I probably wouldn't have never seen it had
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: they not said anything, because I don't really notice her
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: throughout the show anyway, So had they not said anything,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have thought twice about it. Like she's
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: another one for me where I'm like, oh, Maya still here?
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Who knew? Yeah?
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: You know, I didn't pay attention to her during the
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: challenge anyway.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Is she the one that they say lives at home?
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: There's one that they just freaking I think it might
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: be Maya. They roast and are like, she lives at
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: home anyways, So.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Because there's a few girls who still live at home.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: There's a few girls that still live at home with
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: mom and dad.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: The mentors think that Emma is a slow burn. No, guys,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: let it go, Let it go. He is not interested.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you think that she's a sweety pie,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: which she does seem to be. She is so not
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: the kind of girl he dates, and she is so
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: not I'm sorry she's You're adorable, but you're way too
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: nicely nice placeholder.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: It's a placeholder.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if we're if we're going to be
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: so for real, my girl, Emily and her are probably
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: very similar. And I wish Emily had gotten the chance
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: to open up to Harry about her choice to be
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: a virgin, because I think that that would have been
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: a more interesting story to see through. Then, yeah, I
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: don't even know what's going on with Emma. I don't
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: even know her. The mentors then tell Harry that this
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: is the last elimination that they are going to be
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: making the choice, and then after this it's up to Harry.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful. I truly am, like,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I'm really happy about this decision. Mentors, you have been fun.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: It's been great to meet you. I'm glad to see
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: you go. I miss the spying element.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I wish that that, but there really wasn't.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Outside of the first night, Heather, You've said that a
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: couple of times they changed. Outside of the first night,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: there really wasn't a spying element at all.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Because can you imagine something happening off camera that just
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: the mentors are seeing, and then they go to Harry's
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: room and they're like, hey, I think you should see this. Yeah,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: and like showing him footage like that would have been
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I would have liked that.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I would have liked that, But honestly, it just feels
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: like it feels very disconnected for me.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Them being there, they feel a little bit like an afterthought,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: and it feels Listen, you have to have some sort
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: of confidant, right because there's no host, So who does
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: your lead talk to?
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: There has to be somebody.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: So if this were a traditional dating show like The Bachelor,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: there would be the host, and the host would be
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: stepping in to be talking with him. But he needs
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: somebody to talk with his feelings through and what's going
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: on in his head because we're getting it in his
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: little one on one interviews where he looks like he's
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: filming him.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: But it's not enough.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: We need somebody to help kind of move the conversation
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and ask those tougher questions.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: So, anyways, we go into this elimination ceremony, but you know,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: right before we even say the first name, Harry is
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: like Juliana, we have to talk.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Listen, if I'm Juliana walking into here, I'm thinking I've
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: got it made. My boy loves me. I'm gonna ride
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: off into the sunset.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. But he pulls her. Cameras don't follow.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: We do a nice little over the hedges shot from
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: far away, and then they cut to a camera that
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: is closer to him, and Harry basically tells her like
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: she's bringing out the old version of him. He said
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: love and he doesn't think that she deserves that. Juliana
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: says she meant it when she said it, and Harry
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: doesn't think he's in love with her.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: And then I wrote she starts crying? Did she really though?
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: But then I wrote, woh, the tears are gone?
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: She seems fine, Yeah, because I don't see tears actually,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: like I hear her crying but I actually don't see
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: any tears. The makeup is not smudged, and she's talking
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: very matter of factly to him. She gives her ring
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: back and then she goes into her OTF interview and
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: that's when she's crying. But again I don't really see tears.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I see her like wiping her eyes, but not really
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: seeing tears.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I noticed the same thing. I was like, Oh, she
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: loves him, but she ain't real.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Sad again in It to Win It, Harry goes back
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: and tells the other women that last night he said
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: thanks to Juliana, that he didn't mean, which if I'm
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: sitting there and hearing that, I'm questioning everything. I'm I'm like,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: is this guy a red flag? Does he even like me?
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Like? What's happening? Like I do you then believe what
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: he has said to you is real and true? So
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: he then starts the elimination process.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: The first ring that they were going to ask for anyways,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: was Juliana's, and then the other one they ask to
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: have eliminated is Maya, and that's not a surprise.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: She also doesn't seem to care. She's literally like, it's okay,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: what all is gonna be?
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Good. I'm gonna find somebody see ya bye exactly.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: And so Harry tells his final five that he couldn't
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: have gotten this far without his mentors. But like as
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: they get closer, like they've told him, like they're gone.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: He's up on his own now.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: So back at the house, Amber says she wasn't feeling
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: good that Harry had saved Juliana and like dipped into
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: like old patterns, and that she wants to be with
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: a guy that means what he says. And then he
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: picks her up and he takes her to the bathroom
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: to make out off camera, and then we hear audio.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: We do not see this.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: We hear Amber say, get naked, and then you've got
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: to drive the car before you buy it, which that
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: was the most picked up sentence from another scene that
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I have ever heard on a show like and I
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: hate to like point these kinds of things out, I
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: really do.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: It's hard, though, when you're watching it to not think
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: that you know what I mean.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Literally, the audio levels are not even close to the same.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Guys it goes from. It goes from get naked to
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: you've got to drive the car before you buy it,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Like it was like there was there was. It was
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: just unbelievable, no connection. And I'm sorry, who's saying that
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: to a guy? You say that in a group when
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: you're talking with like other women.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: I would would never say to guy.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Hey, get naked, you got to try the car before
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: you buy it.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: You you're not marrying one.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Literally, nobody says that. Nobody says that to a guy's face.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Get naked, got to try the car before you buy it. Yeah,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: so show me what you got tighter, let me.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: What you got time to turn like. It was just
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: it's this.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Anyways, we were going kind of back and forth about this,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: but Sam walks upstairs and overhears the showers running, So
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: then she runs back down and tells all the girls.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Bits like this are uncomfortable for me, Heather, because you know,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I hope that everyone knows. When you're watching it. A
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: producer's like, oh my gosh, what is that? Go up
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: there and check it out. And then she goes up there,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: and the one who looks stupid is Sam. I would
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: have been like, yeah, absolutely not, I'm not going to
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: check that out. Let them do their thing. I would not,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: But like I struggle I struggle.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Episode six kicks off with Harry and Amber are
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: still in the shower and the girls are downstairs talking
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: about it. And so then Harry and Amber come out
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: and I wrote this, but no one is wet and
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: they are fully dressed.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: It's the first thing that I noticed too. Their hair
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: is not even like disheveled.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Disheveled, damp nothing.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: They don't even look like they were like making out.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: No one has flushed nothing. They went in there for
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: a little privacy to talk. That's what happened, and what
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: they wanted us to believe was something else. Yeah, I
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: think they went in there they wanted to talk. They
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: didn't want the other girls to hear. I think they
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: went in there to kiss. And I think that that's like, again,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: all that happened. He's not going in there to talk, Deanna,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Are you serious? Why are they going in there and
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: hiding to kiss? They can kiss on camera. Why are
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: they going in there to hide and kiss?
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Because maybe they're they've all seen.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: His tongue in motion, maybe big grind, but maybe, but
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: it's like maybe she's taking her top off. I don't know,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: but I don't think it's to talk. But Anyways, they
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: come downstairs, and what's weird is what she says to
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: him before they go downstairs. She's like, come with me
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: and don't avoid it. But there's something said to you
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: about like it's you and me, like you and like
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: she says something like that, like it's it's this was
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: this was you and me.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I think it was also what I saw. What I
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: got from that is she was like, hey, come downstairs
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: with me, right. She knew she was going to get
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: the questions, and she didn't want to just take the
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Brendan of it, right, like Harry played a part and
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: he should also face the other women. Why would you
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: think you were going to get the questions? I bet
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: you they heard someone come up the stairs. I am
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: now making assumptions of what I think happened in that moment,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: but what I gathered is that they probably heard someone
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: and she had amber in particular. She probably knows they
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: were all sitting downstairs. The other women are gonna notice
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: when she comes back, and she doesn't want to look
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: like she was just up there causing a ruckus.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: I think I know what it is.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: It's because remember, at one point, one of them says
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: in passing they were up there for a really long time. Yeah,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: so maybe that's what it was, like, come with me,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: don't don't make me go down here alone, because you
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: know they're gonna say something, right, She immediately goes to
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: like her own room and then he goes to the
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: living room.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Well that's the way we see it. That's the way
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: we see it. There's no telling what they cut out
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: in between. I don't after her saying that, I don't
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: see her going and getting cozy in her bunk bed
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: and he faces the women alone. I bet they probably
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: went down there, and then she's kind of like, hey,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to bed now because she feels fulfilled.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: In Maybe she went to the kitchen or something.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he gets down there and Sam pulls him
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: for a chat and he's like, why is this so awkward?
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: And she's like, hey, I know you were in the
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: shower with Amber, and he says, oh, no, no, no, no, no,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: I just had the shower running.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: I believe that to be true.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I think maybe I think maybe the show I don't know.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I actually I don't know what I think about the shower.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: But Harry says in an interview that he's not going
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: to reveal what happened with Amber, which this sounds selfish
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: later on when it's brought up again, because he says
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: later on when he's with Sam, oh if I'd said
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: with Amber, I'd lose Amber's trust and then Sam would
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: go home.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: I hear you, I hear you.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: It feels selfish being someone who has been in that situation,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: being one person with anal mean, when I was on television,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: you almost have to compartmentalize the relationships. And if Amber said, hey,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: don't tell the women, I think he should have honored
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Amber's request. It is a very sticky situation because then
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Sam comes to him and is like, well tell me
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: the truth.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be lied to. But you have
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: to have some.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Decency to separate the relationships. It's very hard because the
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: girl seems super close. But you also get to prioritize
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: and to protect the sanctity of each relationship. And we
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: later see Amber address that that that's what should be done.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: So I really needed to be able to do that.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: But the situation is a little different when it's men.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think they come to you and they're like,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: so tell me what you did with Paul. Peter said,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: you did this. It wasn't like that for me. But
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: I did not go into other situations where I was
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: sitting with another man and reveal what took place with
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: another man.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: But don't you think that Harry could have said, Hey, Sam,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I really like you, and I don't want us to
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: spend time talking when we're together. I don't want us
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: to spend time talking about my connection with somebody else.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: But I just want to let you know that my
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: connections are private.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: We're expecting Harry to be an adult man at that point.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have loved to have.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Seen Harry do that the guy when I was on
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: The Bachelor, that's what the guys did. I would have
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: loved to have seen Harry do that. But I think
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: we're expecting something bigger out of Harry than he is
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: capable of that at that moment.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: I guess I just feel like as a woman, though, right,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: that would have been honoring Amber by not telling, and
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: it also would have been not lying to Sam if
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: it had been addressed like that.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think we're expecting mature Harry in that moment. Yeah,
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: he doesn't know how to handle this, right Sam.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: You know rightfully says that this is kind of like
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: the first red flag that she's seeing because she's, you know, like,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: if he's lying, I'm going to go home. So the
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: next day, Sam tells Amber she like basically almost crashed
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: out last night from thinking that they were in the
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: shower together. Amber says nothing when this is being said
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: to her, She's.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Just like, oh, I kind of have like nothing but
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: respect for Amber.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: I really do.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: She does not have to divulge, she really doesn't. Why
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: create chaos where it doesn't need to be.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: But my whole thing is it's a TV show, so
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: tell me now or not.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: I'm going to see it play back. That's the thing.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Like if this were real world and there were no cameras,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: that's one thing. But I'm going to see this eventually.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: But I just don't think that Amber owes them anything.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I really don't. They're all there to date a guy.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: She doesn't owe them details. But she could be like, hey,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: we had a private moment. I'm going to leave it
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: at that. I wonder, too, are you and I thinking
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: this is something more than what it actually was? Because
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: also when you see Amber's reaction.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, I don't think, just like I
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: think that the other girl he did not have sex with. Now,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think that any of
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: that has gone on. I think that he was making
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: out with her in the bathroom. Maybe maybe some clothes
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: came off, but I don't think that anything else beyond
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: that was happening. I think, well, one, I think that
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: if it did go beyond that, we would have been
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: hearing much different audio than what we heard because they
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: would not be able to contain themselves from not using it.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: But the audio we have is get naked. You gotta
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: try the car before you buy it. It's like, but
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: we don't hear anything else, Like, there's no.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: Way, guys, there's no way. Yeah.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: But still again I would have been like, yeah, hey,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: we were making out in the bathroom, it was fun, whatever.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: Don't you know. I don't know, And I know we
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: got to move on.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: But I distinctively remember being on the Bachelor, and when
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I would come home from dates, I did not divulge
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: to the other girls what happened. I just didn't either
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: thought that was my moment. It was private, and I
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: definitely made out with my bachelor.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: Did they call you out.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: I remember it being like when you came home, the
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: girls being like, so, how was it, and I was like, well,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: we did this and this, and that was kind of it.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: I set the standard. I was not willing to divulge
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: any further. Whether they needed it or not, I did not.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: I needed personally, I needed to compartmentalize my relationship with
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: the bachelor because I couldn't deal with taking on the
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: feelings of other women or being like, oh.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: But we're friends and we both like the same guy.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: I couldn't deal with that. I was not able to
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: separate the two.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: Maybe it was the same situation for them. Who knows.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Amber does not strike me watching her that she is
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: as close to the women as some of the other
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: women are.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I will one hundred percent I agree with that, right,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I will one hundred percent. And I think that has
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: a little bit to do with age and.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: Also just the vibes that I get from her. Yep.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, So Harry pops in when the girls are doing
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: their makeup and he surprises them and tells.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Them that they're all going to go on a PJ.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Did you notice how my boy Harry said that they're
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: going on a private jet that they're all going to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Las Vegas. So I'm excited, let's shake it up. But
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Harry is so funny. You know who says PJ is
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: someone who's never been on a private jet, Coming from
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: a girl who works on private.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Jets, Yeah, you have been on a private jet.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: I work on private jets. It's my real job, right.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: No one is ever like, oh my god, we're going
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: on a PJ. The people who say that are the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: people who don't ever go on a private jet.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: That's so funny.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: So as soon as Harry said that, I was like,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: this is his first go thanks, never done. So we
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: see they are in Las Vegas. They arrive at Caesar's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Palace to a suite. The sweet looks amazing, huge, it's beautiful.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: Sam says that if she finds out that Harry lied
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: to her, she would be out of there.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I don't believe Sam. I don't think she's ever really leaving.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: We're gonna hear it a lot, we do. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: it's coming.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: So the next day, Harry is going on five dates
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: that day. He's got to be exhausted, Heather, He's got
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: to be so tired.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: We need Harry needs a little nappy.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: This is the one that opens with Harry talking to
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: camera in the bed with his shoes on.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, so for everyone listening, I was dying for Heather
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: to see this moment. I think I've texted you about
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: this three times this week because I get ahead of myself.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: I cannot just.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Watch the two episodes that we're recording. I've got to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: skip forward. So I'm pretty sure I texted Heather three
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: times this week about Harry frolicking in his own bed
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: with his gray shorts on and his little tank top.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: And his tennis shoes.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Disgusting, Heather, disgusting.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: I was so appalled by him.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: He does like a little backflip in the bed too,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: and like gross shoes pillows.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: If I loved Harry from this point, I did not
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: any further. When he is frolicking around in his bed
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: with his tennis shoes on, I am so disgusted in everything.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, everything goes out the window from here. This
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: is a moment where I was like, he looks like
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: a little boy. Why is he rolling around and wrestling
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: in his bed with his tennis shoes on. That's his
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: bed he slept in that bed.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to say.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe because housekeeping was going to come in after they
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: film that.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: It's just like, I don't care take your shoes off
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: at the door.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: I literally text Heather you guys and was like, why
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: is he frolicking around in the bed with his shoes on?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Gross? It's fine.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Harry's first date is with Emma. I couldn't see him
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: any differently through the whole episode.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: But I digress.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: They go to the pool to talk. Yeah.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Day is a stretch of a word for some of
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: these yeah yeah, meet up.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: What was in my head when they're walking out to
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: like lay by the pools. I'm literally in my head
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: going wah wah, like I just hate to be that way,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: but I haven't seen it, and sometimes I feel like
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: I'm getting Emma for the first time, So.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: That's what you were thinking.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I was looking at the random people lounging at the
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: pool while this was being filmed.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: I have noticed that in several of this situation it
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: was like.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Two random women, just like, there's all these loungers, and
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: these are and it makes me wonder. It made me
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: wonder if they were laying out in different parts of
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: the pool, and production was like, hey, do you mind
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: like coming and sitting over here and like signing this
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: waiver and like being in the back.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: I absolutely think it was probably producers. They needed spaces
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: to fill. They've used to do that sometimes on The Bachelor,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: watching back, I would see some producers that I knew
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: sitting at tables and stuff because they needed to fill.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Every show does this.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: By the way, my favorite thing to watch is Real
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Housewives and a confrontational lunch and look in the background
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: at all the pas wearing all black sitting at tables
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: looking at their phones. That is one of my favorite
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: things to spot. So yeah, I mean, the very well
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: could have been producers or I've shot at hotels and
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: they could very well have been guests who were like, yeah, no,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not moving, like I was here first and this
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: is the lounge chair that I want. So anyways, that
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: just made me laugh. It was just literally two women
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: in the background in that scene. These dates, I mean,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: are like I said, very very quick. I mean, Sam,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: they go take the weird cold shower, did you see
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: like snows coming out of it? She is so gorgeous,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: She's so hot she she is, and again she tries
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: to fish for if he's lying.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: He says, you know nothing.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Harry and Amber they go to a lounge, and you know,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Harry says basically that Amber is the only one who
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: dances around the mage question. Again, Now we've got to
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: throw some doubt in there about people, because that's where
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: we are at this point of these shows. Harry and
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Abby they go gambling and he just basically like giggles
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: a lot and says that she reminds him of like
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: his older self, like who he used to be.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: He's so changed, so changed man.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: And then back in the suite, Abby tells the other
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: women about her date, and she gets emotional because, like,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: you know, she really wants Harry to know that, like
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: the feelings like are real.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: Harry and Danell go on a date.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: They go into like this gigantic ferris wheel in Vegas. Forgot,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Denelle's from Vegas, so this is like her little hometown.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: The whole time, I'm wondering, is she like ugh Vegas?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: Like she probably doesn't go anywhere near the strip unless
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: she's like probably working, you know what I mean.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: So the whole time is she like ough Vegas.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: She tells Harry that she's falling in love with him,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: and he says he's already there, and then in interview
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: she says that she does love him to her producer,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: not to him.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: This makes me wonder how much.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: We have not been shown of the two of them together,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: because from what I've seen, I know that there is
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: a connection.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: He gave her the ring. There's been time together that
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: I for sure see super time.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: But the fact that they are like, oh I love you,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what what falling?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: But they have fallen in love? I don't know.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I don't I actually yeah, I'm not sure on that one.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: But that double ring thing still nobody's caught onto that yet.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: They also don't talk about it anymore.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: And they want people to know though. The elimination ceremony,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: this one is all done by Harry, all on his own.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: He has every one of the girls.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: This was the most genuine elimination ceremony that we have seen.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: I loved every second of it. I was like hanging
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: on the edge of my I was so happy to
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: see this.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: Did you have an idea of who was going to
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: go home?
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: I did kind of have an idea, but I guess
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: what I really appreciated is like, we get little snippets
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: of Harry being Harry, like his true self, you know
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: We get little snippets of that.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: And I think what I really appreciated in this elimination
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: ceremony is that we get snippets of Harry being himself
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: with each woman as he's letting them go, yeah, and
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: keeping keeping in letting go.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: But like I just I loved it. I loved it.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: I'm glad our mentors are gone. I'm glad they're gone.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Harry gets to be in charge and do his thing.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: So Danelle is safe, Emma's eliminated, Amber is safe, and
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Abby's eliminated, and Sam is safe. And so basically, Harry
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: tells all the girls that are safe that when they
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: get back to LA he's also going to be meeting
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: their families, which interesting, well, it starts out formal and
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: then it gets progressively more and more casual and less
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: and less time with the family as that as the
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: meetings go on. So you know, Abby was surprised that
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: she was let go, as was Emma.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: A babe.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Emma's like, wait, you said that you could see you'd
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: be lucky to fall, you'd be lucky to marry me.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very nice thing to.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Say to somebody, Emma, but you should have trusted that
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: gut and you probably should have self eliminated a while ago.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: But I think you were just.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Having fun and you enjoyed time, You enjoyed being on TV,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: and you enjoyed enjoyed making new friends. Back in La
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Harry meets Danelle's mom. He brings her flowers, which is
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: very nice. Her mom is kind of shocked. This is
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: what's silly to me is that everybody starts out by
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: being like, I'm engaged and showing off this ring, and
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, we've literally not talked about these engagement
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: rings at all. We've never said the phrase were engaged.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: And that's what gets used for the remainder of this
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: episode is like Harry is engaged to all three of
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: these remaining women, which is kind of silly because they
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: all came out put these rings on their own finger
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: and haven't even met him yet.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so her mom.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Is shocked by this, and she's pretty shocked that this
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: ends in a wedding. Again, I think this is a
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: bit of a joke because I think everybody knew what
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: the title of.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: The show was.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe the girls going on, but maybe their parents didn't know.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: I think if you say, hey, I'm going on the Bachelor,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: they all know what the Bachelor is like.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: But we reposted this video that Harry did about somebody
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: saying that they didn't really know what they were signing
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: up for, and Harry goes into detail about how the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: women had the choice to design their own fake engagement ring.
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  Speaker 3: So this was a process.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: We'll go into it another time, I'm sure, But like
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  Speaker 1: the casting process for a show does not happen overnight.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: I have to tell that to everybody whenever I'm doing something.
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  Speaker 1: It's very rare that it just picks up and goes
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: like a week from now.
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  Speaker 2: Harry said that too, and that is post. He said
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: that this was a process. It's the truth. It is
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: a very long process for people. Unless you come in
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: right at the end of a casting process, then it
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: feels really rushed and it can be actually very scary
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: how fast things move. But anyways, Harry basically tells Dennell's
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: mom that he his ideal you know, living situation is
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: having a place in la and when in Australia. They
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: kind of prank Donnell at the end about like, you know,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: not really liking Harry, but they all start laughing and
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: it's fine. And so then we get overnight dates as
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: well after this. So Harry and Dennell spend the night together.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: We don't see anything.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: They don't show anything very bachelor like with a fantasy suite.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: I saw that, but do you know what what I
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: needed was like a card from Chris Harrison saying will
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: you will you forego your own room and stay with me?
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  Speaker 2: They just kind of open this door. They show a
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  Speaker 2: couple of pillows, and then they wake up the next day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Dennell says that Harry's a really heavy breather.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: I laughed really hard at this because tall men tend
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: to be heavy brothers.
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  Speaker 3: He's Edy's beefy, like he probably I just love that.
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  Speaker 3: He was like no, I'm not or something, and she
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: was like yeah.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Then she says that they got playful last night, and
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: that's why she's kind of tired.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was test driving the car.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: He was test driving the car with that cheeky boy.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: The next is.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Harry and Amber. She's Amber's nervous for Harry to meet
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: his mom. Her mom and her brother come. They're very
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: excited that she's engaged. Her brother is so cute. Her
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: brother's so cute.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: He is so excited. You could tell right away. He
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: is her biggest cheerleader. That they have a wonderful relationship,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: the three of them. I was like, oh, oh, if
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: Harry doesn't choose her, I am.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Her mom is like, you're ready for marriage again, because
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: let's be real, Amber's divorced. And I bet you anything
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: that Girly has said to her family, I'm never getting
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: married again.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: I'm not never doing it again.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Never. And then her mom was like, are you sure,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: like over and over again. Harry then shares this thing
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: that he hasn't shared before, which is that he takes
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: a sign of a bee being a message from his father.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: And he says that before he started this process, he
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: asked his dad for a sign and then he went
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: to a urinoal and there was a bee stinger in it,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: and he says that this was a sign if from
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: his dad, and his dad was silly and that would
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: be something he would do.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: And so he brings this up because.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Then later on on their date, Harry ends up seeing
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: a bee and he's like, this is a sign from
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: my dad.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: I love intuition Harry, who's tapping into his intuition. It's
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: like he's in the middle of his alignment, you know
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: what I mean, He's getting close to where he needs
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: to be, but he's still kind of on this other path.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: And so I really like intuition Harry.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: He presses Amber again though, about marriage, and she says
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: that she's ready for love, and this answer actually sends
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Harry into a spiral and he's like the title of
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: the show is, let's Harry Harry, and he like goes outside,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: is like freaking out, but she says she really likes
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: him a lot, and they kiss and then they spend
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: the night together. And the next morning, Harry sees a bee,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: like I said, while he's having coffee with Amber, and
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: he thinks this is a huge sign. So the next one,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: last one, Harry and Sam go and they meet her
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: mom and Sam tells her mom.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: About the shower situation.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: And Sam's mom is immediately like, I don't trust men,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Like clearly what happened in that divorce situation with her
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: is like not good, and so you know, her mom
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: is like how are you doing this with like other
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: women in the process, and her mom keeps stressing to
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Harry the importance of honesty with her daughter, and her
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: mom just flat out says, I don't think he's ready
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: for marriage.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And Sam is then unsure if she should even
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: stay the night with Harry, and her mom is like, yeah,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think you should.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: And that's what the episode ends on.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: So we've got two more episodes to watch of Let's
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Marry Harry, and then, like we said, very exciting, there
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: will be a reunion that we will also recap and
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: hopefully get to talk to some of the gals from
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: this season. Leave us a message though, eight four four
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: five almost Are you loving Let's Marry Harry? Do you
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: think that whatever this outcome is, that it's built to
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: last with you know, one of these three remaining girls
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: would love to hear from the listeners if they're liking
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: this show, if they like Harry, what they think about this,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: if they're feeling bachelor vibes.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: Do they love Harry like Heather loves Harry?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love some Harry, Josey.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: Heather wants to marry Harry. That's our new show.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: That's the question I keep asking myself when I'm watching
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: Do I want to marry Harry? And then he'll go
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: and do something and I'll go, no, I don't, But
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: I am still rooting for this guy. I like where
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: we're at. You know we're coming to the end. If
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: I'm making a guess right now, Sam, you're out, I
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: think that you're probably out at the beginning of the
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: next episode. I haven't watched ahead, but that's what I
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: would think. And I feel like there might be something
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: explosive coming between them.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Well, clearly she's gonna find out about the lie, because
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: why else have we spent this entire time talking about
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: He'd better not lie to her.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: Even the mom drilled that in.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: Something's gonna happen, and it's gonna it's gonna be dramatic.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: And again, if you don't tell her now, she's gonna
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: see it on the show. So why not just put
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: it out there. You're gonna see it eventually. So anyways,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: we'll be back with more kind of famous really soon
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: as we wrap up.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: Let's Marry Harry, Bye bye. Follow the Ben and Ashley
• 1:16:02
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• 1:16:06
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