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Furness Show 4-28: Dwight Jaynes, Joe Sheehan, John Lund · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Here we are on this Tuesday. We got a couple
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  Speaker 1: of things going on. One the Godfather, Dwight James is
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  Speaker 1: going to join us here in about fifteen minutes from Portland.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on. I'm gonna get to the
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  Speaker 1: NBA in a second. One twenty today, Joe shean two o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: John lnd.
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  Speaker 2: We think we know.
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  Speaker 3: I think I told him in very explicit terms not
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  Speaker 3: to mess up my streak of having him on time.
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  Speaker 4: So all right, specific or like hard terms, like you
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  Speaker 4: are you are doing things I can't say, you're not
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  Speaker 4: screwing this up?
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  Speaker 3: John, Yes, that is a nicer way than the birds
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  Speaker 3: that ken.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm fully planning on him too, because last week he
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  Speaker 1: made the comment of like I'm on too much of
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  Speaker 1: a hot streak right now, so being on time.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean sometimes a here scares people.
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  Speaker 1: You guys all want us to do live interviews, that's
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  Speaker 1: what ends up happening. Huh yeah, be carefully asked for
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  Speaker 1: uh one o'clock. We did this last week. We have
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  Speaker 1: longer hours now we're on three hours. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you guys know that twelve to three every day.
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  Speaker 1: It's an exhausting process.
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  Speaker 5: The people have spocused.
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  Speaker 2: No, they have not spoken. Nobody.
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  Speaker 1: No people spoke, Jess, that's what not what happened. They
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  Speaker 1: had changes in the iHeart world and they said you
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  Speaker 1: got to do an extra hour. That's what happened. And
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  Speaker 1: we all know that. But I love your support. People
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  Speaker 1: have spoken, people have spoken if they want. If you
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  Speaker 1: want the people to speak, none of us are going
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  Speaker 1: to be here. So to be careful what you ask
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  Speaker 1: for me at me at the top of the list.
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  Speaker 1: But we did do a fun thing last week, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought of one today. It's not it's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen sporadically here there. But I got a sports confession.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, we're gonna do every day and then bless
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  Speaker 1: me father for ies. And but I got one today
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  Speaker 1: at one o'clock. I don't think it's going to be popular.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't and you guys know me. I don't
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  Speaker 1: do stuff to be to just to kind of rattle
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  Speaker 1: the hornet's nest.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how I operate now. But it's just it's
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  Speaker 1: a personal preference and I'm just done over, can't do
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  Speaker 1: it anymore, Okay, And I'll just say this. I switched
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  Speaker 1: the channel every time.
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  Speaker 4: Really, but I'll.
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  Speaker 1: Let you guys and you can react to that at
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  Speaker 1: one o'clock today. A little polarizing. Bless me, father, for
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  Speaker 1: I have sent a sports confessional.
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  Speaker 4: Is it a sin though? If you just if it's
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  Speaker 4: your preference.
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  Speaker 1: I think everyone thinks I'm I sinned when I say this. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I'm actually what I'm what I'm hoping for is
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  Speaker 1: some affirmation. I'm hoping somebody agrees with me because I
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  Speaker 1: can't just be me now. I'm curious. Well that's what
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  Speaker 1: you call it teas in the business, hey geez.
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  Speaker 4: But usually like one of the producers knows what's going on, right.
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  Speaker 1: I just want just wanted me to say it earlier,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it, Okay, fair enough. We'll do that
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  Speaker 1: at one o'clock and you can react to that.
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  Speaker 2: Four one five.
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  Speaker 1: I'm one of you guys on the Tacoma do tumma
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  Speaker 1: dodge text on if you've got a sports confession, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to those. Here's what I'm just real quick.
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  Speaker 1: I got a few minutes here. I want to start
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  Speaker 1: with this. The so we put the thing up yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Jess has a promo running and there's a there's a
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  Speaker 1: stuff on on online. H Benton did it last night
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  Speaker 1: for us on the Gram, on the Instagram and on Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter, yeah, on the NBA and it here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I we brought up the NBA yesterday and I think
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know the context.
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  Speaker 2: What was the context in I can't.
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  Speaker 4: Remember Smanta Halloway like that. Them not having the vote,
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  Speaker 4: the vote, the vote, yeah, the vote, Okay, the vote yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So we found out yesterday that they're not going to
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  Speaker 1: vote on the NBA coming to Seattle until at the
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  Speaker 1: earliest in the fall. Right Seattle slash Vegas, which isn't
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  Speaker 1: a huge deal. There was a little bit of hope
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  Speaker 1: that they could get that thing pushed through and get
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  Speaker 1: the vote and be done during Summer League in Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: It would be perfect timing in Vegas. Summer League. Give
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  Speaker 1: you a little news drop in the middle. It's like
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  Speaker 1: the slowest, it's the only slow time of the year
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  Speaker 1: for the NFL. Give you everything is lined up nicely.
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  Speaker 1: Right then it's a full two years out from NBA
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  Speaker 1: free agency in the NBA Draft. Well, we found out
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  Speaker 1: yesterday that Adam silver Tallian group of Sports Editors across
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  Speaker 1: at the AP event. Nope, they're not going to do that.
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  Speaker 1: They're hoping maybe by the fall. It needs to get
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  Speaker 1: done before the end of the year. Even the end
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  Speaker 1: of the year is only eighteen month. Think about this,
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  Speaker 1: it's eighteen months. It's because because people say, well, it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, two years until the start of the season
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  Speaker 1: or twenty two months. No, the season starts with the
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  Speaker 1: draft slash free agency, so the timeline becomes a little
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  Speaker 1: more bag. Yeah, it does. So I brought it up
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and we talked about Sam and the money and
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  Speaker 1: Sam Halloway the money and all that that aside. For
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  Speaker 1: a second, I was really surprised by the reaction, both
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  Speaker 1: on the text line what we put out on social
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  Speaker 1: media with the cut with me talking about it, just
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  Speaker 1: with people this anti NBA pushback. Now, I believe, as
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  Speaker 1: do most of us here at the station, and I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of media people around town, that the
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  Speaker 1: day the NBA comes back, and I'm fully confident will
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  Speaker 1: but the day the NBA comes back and it's announced
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  Speaker 1: it's coming back, it will be one of the bigger
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  Speaker 1: days in the history of our city in terms of sports.
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  Speaker 1: It woul rank up there with Super Bowls. It would
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  Speaker 1: rank up there with the awarding of a franchise in
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  Speaker 1: the NHL. It's probably surpassed that for sure. Unfortunately I
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  Speaker 1: hate to admit that, but it would. It would rank
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  Speaker 1: up there with ALCS Series ninety five. You know, here
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  Speaker 1: comes Junior blah blah blah, all that it would be
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  Speaker 1: of that magnitude. I think we I think most of
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  Speaker 1: us believe that. But maybe we're too close to it
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  Speaker 1: because the pushback we saw yesterday. I saw yesterday. It
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  Speaker 1: just and it's not the first time. You guys see
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  Speaker 1: the text line. You guys get the feedback.
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  Speaker 2: You see it.
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  Speaker 4: Even on a good update, like when they said that
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  Speaker 4: they were.
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  Speaker 1: That March the show we did the show we did it.
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  Speaker 1: Mark in March at the queen An Beer Hall was
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  Speaker 1: just like whatever. It was a nothing burger. And for
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  Speaker 1: us that was a significant step, like a big day. Hey, yes,
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  Speaker 1: we're looking specifically at God who put this thing in here?
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  Speaker 1: Softy's right, they put a new like thing in here.
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  Speaker 1: You can't sit anyway. They that day. I thought we
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  Speaker 1: would have a pretty good celebration and a rah rah
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  Speaker 1: here we go, and people either didn't care. More importantly,
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  Speaker 1: they just like whatever, Man, I'm done with the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: I still believe that there is going to be It's
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  Speaker 1: going to be huge.
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  Speaker 5: It will.
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  Speaker 1: I think that the I think you hear from a
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  Speaker 1: vocal minority in terms of the negativity oftentimes in our business,
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  Speaker 1: and I kind of think that's what it is. But
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  Speaker 1: you guys can tell us four nine four or five
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  Speaker 1: to one. We're all kind of sitting there around here
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  Speaker 1: chomping at the bit. When's the NBA coming back? Are
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  Speaker 1: you the same? I don't think many people are. I
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  Speaker 1: hate to say that, and maybe I'm wrong, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: the text line will prove me different. Maybe just the
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  Speaker 1: bitterness of twenty years is creeped into where we are
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  Speaker 1: right now today. But yesterday it kind of took me aback.
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  Speaker 1: I was a little bit surprised. I was a little
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  Speaker 1: bit surprised by the pushback and the lack of just
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  Speaker 1: kind of like a screw it, who cares? I just
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  Speaker 1: someone asked us yesterday, Anders did you asked Softy? And
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  Speaker 1: I question, what was that question?
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  Speaker 2: You remember?
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  Speaker 4: Estion was do you think the people that you know
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  Speaker 4: weren't around or you know, younger than myself. I always
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  Speaker 4: would say that weren't around for the ripping away of
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  Speaker 4: the franchise in two thousand and eight. Do you think
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  Speaker 4: they will embrace the NBA more than the people the
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  Speaker 4: older generation or less because you could argue both ways,
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  Speaker 4: more because they weren't they the wound is not there
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  Speaker 4: for them, or less because they didn't grow up with
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  Speaker 4: the NBA in Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: And before I give you what stofting, we actually agree.
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  Speaker 4: We both agreed weird.
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  Speaker 1: Terrifying a lot of levels. How old were you in
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  Speaker 1: the in the.
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  Speaker 4: Eleven eleven?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: So I think a couple of things. I think one
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  Speaker 1: of the NBA is really popular with the younger audience.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like Baseball has the oldest average audience, and
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  Speaker 1: like Baseball's the average viewer at least for Baseball is
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  Speaker 1: over fifty years old in our country. I think I
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  Speaker 1: think the NBA really does appeal to a younger generation.
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  Speaker 1: I would just I use my son and his friends.
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  Speaker 1: They're all in the early twenties. Big NBA fans. Now
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing. They don't consume it like we would.
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  Speaker 1: They don't watch games necessarily, they'll watch highlights, follow players.
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  Speaker 1: NBA is a big storyline, storylines, all those things, right,
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  Speaker 1: So for the people listening right now, you're probably our
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  Speaker 1: average age listening right now is probably in the forties.
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  Speaker 1: That's just that's the nature of our industry and our business.
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  Speaker 1: I we're excited, are you? I don't know. The NBA
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  Speaker 1: also is just has a tendency just to do things
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  Speaker 1: in a strange, strange way. Portland's a great example. That's
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  Speaker 1: why we're gonna go visit Dwight here in a second,
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  Speaker 1: because what's going on down there, to me is really
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  Speaker 1: for them somewhat terrifying. There is a distinct feel of
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  Speaker 1: Clayton Bennett hovering over the Rose City or Rip City
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  Speaker 1: is this time of the year, at the playoffs, a
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  Speaker 1: guy that wants building stuff done, build a new building
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  Speaker 1: or renovate to the tune of six hundred and fifty million,
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  Speaker 1: almost a billion dollars. If not, I want a shorter lease.
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  Speaker 1: What a shorter lease mean? I don't have to educate
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  Speaker 1: anybody in this town on what a short lease means.
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  Speaker 1: It means the team can leave, which it did.
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  Speaker 2: Hear? Is that a relocation? God?
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  Speaker 1: I just I know, I just don't think there's any
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  Speaker 1: way in the world that anybody here would dirty their
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  Speaker 1: hands with a relocation of Portland. But maybe another team.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there's a couple teams that could relocate Portland being
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  Speaker 1: one of them. To me, it would just be an
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  Speaker 1: absolute It would be a crime on the level of
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  Speaker 1: Seattle losing this ONICX.
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  Speaker 2: But this owner.
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  Speaker 1: He's following the Clayton Bennett playbook by a page by
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  Speaker 1: page right now, let's go cheap. Let's cut everybody off
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  Speaker 1: at the knees. Let's not promote our products. Let's do
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  Speaker 1: nothing to help the fan experience. We want this from
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  Speaker 1: the state, and this from the state, and this. It
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  Speaker 1: is the Clayton Bennett playbook.
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  Speaker 4: Man, let me paint a picture few Ian. Yeah, what
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  Speaker 4: if you know, God forbid, things don't go the way
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  Speaker 4: that we want. Maybe Vegas doesn't have their you know
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  Speaker 4: what together, like we talked about yesterday. Yeah, and we
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  Speaker 4: already know Seattle's ready. No, no, no, it comes out
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  Speaker 4: that they want to if you tell.
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  Speaker 1: Me it's if you tell me it's New Orleans or Memphis.
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  Speaker 1: He's already come out and said, he's already said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: were staying in Memphis, did silver? If it's New Orleans,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. Okay, I'm fine with that. Portland
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  Speaker 1: all joking is no, And I here's the thing. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they would do it.
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think they would either.
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  Speaker 2: Here's why that.
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  Speaker 1: Market's really important to their hockey team.
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  Speaker 5: Mm hm oh, they.
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  Speaker 2: Don't really important.
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  Speaker 1: And the region, like the hockey team is a regional team,
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  Speaker 1: their viewer viewership numbers down there and all that are
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  Speaker 1: really big.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the Mariners.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like like the Mariners don't want to ever piss
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  Speaker 1: off Portland.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah right, but they also don't want a team there.
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  Speaker 1: They also don't want a team there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the mark the Portland market is important for. Really,
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  Speaker 1: the Portland mark is important for the Seahawks and Mariners
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  Speaker 1: and the cracket. I don't think there would ever be
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  Speaker 1: that cod.
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  Speaker 4: Well for nothing else. I don't want that owner anywhere
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  Speaker 4: near us.
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  Speaker 1: No, it wouldn't happen because he would He's not going
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  Speaker 1: to want to have to be a tenant under one roof.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, we'll take a break. Our guy, Dwight James and
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  Speaker 1: Godfather joins us next.
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  Speaker 2: I think we are? Are we on YouTube?
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  Speaker 8: Of course?
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  Speaker 2: We are?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well, okay, wait a second, okay, never mind, we are.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, A course of course means that it's just a
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  Speaker 1: given that things are working. That's I'm not sure in
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  Speaker 1: this business if that's the case. All right, joining us
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  Speaker 1: right now on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. Good friend for
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  Speaker 1: many many years, they call him the godfather in Portland,
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  Speaker 1: and rightfully so.
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  Speaker 2: Television radio.
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  Speaker 1: For a long time, a trusted columnist in the Rip City,
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  Speaker 1: Dwight James Jones. Right now, Hello, sir, how are you?
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  Speaker 9: I'm good and I'm here for you anytime that you
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  Speaker 9: want me. Always a pleasure to.
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  Speaker 2: Speak with you.
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  Speaker 1: I one of the first people I met when I
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: got to Portland back in two thousand and two, and
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: we ended up working together at Comcast Sports at Northwest.
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  Speaker 1: Had a lot of lass, some funnel on the way,
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  Speaker 1: and now we've moved on, and I think back those
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: might have been even though the team wasn't great, although
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  Speaker 1: they did have nice little run with brennon Roy For
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: a while that might have been the glory years for
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  Speaker 1: Portland with Paul Allen still owning the team. It's changed
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, which I want to get into with
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  Speaker 1: you in just a couple of things. Real quick, I
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  Speaker 1: have not seen it yet. Have you seen the jail
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  Speaker 1: Blazers Netflix thing?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? I have.
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  Speaker 1: What would you say to someone like me who was
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  Speaker 1: there for I guess really the last two and a
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  Speaker 1: half years of what that would be the time? What
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  Speaker 1: would you or even just any fan watching it? Is
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  Speaker 1: it worth watching?
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  Speaker 2: Is it good? Is it accurate? Well, here's what I
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  Speaker 2: would say. Starting off.
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  Speaker 9: You know, I was a columnist at the ore Going
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  Speaker 9: In and the Portland Interview, and during that time Carrie
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  Speaker 9: Agers wrote the book on the jail Blazer's kind of
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  Speaker 9: a definitive history of that, and then Jason Quick was
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  Speaker 9: the beat guy on the road with them all the time. Yep,
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  Speaker 9: And none of us three are included in the documentary,
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  Speaker 9: although all three of us were interviewed by them. So
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  Speaker 9: my sense was that we didn't quite fit the narrative
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  Speaker 9: of that what they wanted to portray, So it kind
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  Speaker 9: of turned out to be a few of the players
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  Speaker 9: who were here at during that time, kind of making
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  Speaker 9: it sound like they were just lovable rogue rogue guys.
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  Speaker 9: You know, it's just sort of having fun and leading
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  Speaker 9: the city through a merry time of its history, you
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  Speaker 9: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Oh God, I so yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I heard something like along the lines of you and
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  Speaker 1: Carrie and Jason weren't in it, which is just odd.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Jason is I mean, he was the beat
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  Speaker 1: writer forever with that team. I mean he was embedded
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  Speaker 1: with that stuff. Home and Away. You guys had been
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  Speaker 1: in Portland and understood and like you said, Kerry wrote
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  Speaker 1: the damn book. That's I was wondered about that. I've
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: seen some of the stuff. I've seen some of the
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: stuff with Damon and Rashid and Bonzi and some of
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  Speaker 1: the podcasts, and I do chuckle. It's like, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we the lovable you know, we were misunderstood. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to watch it. I'm probably watching it with a
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  Speaker 1: grain of salt. I mean, I got there just in
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: time for Yellowhummer incident, quint Elwood's dogfight, I mean, all
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  Speaker 1: of it, like and yeah, yeah, it's you know. The
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  Speaker 1: funny thing is I like Damon of all those guys.
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  Speaker 1: I always like Damon. I always like Damon, I always always.
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  Speaker 9: I always have to Yeah, I always liked him, knew
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  Speaker 9: his father a little bit, and uh, you know, covered
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  Speaker 9: him in high school, a local guy, and I think
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  Speaker 9: he tried his best to do well, and I think
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  Speaker 9: he learned a lot of lessons here conserved him later on.
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  Speaker 9: And what has become, you know, a very prosperous life
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  Speaker 9: and a valuable life helping young basketball players. And uh,
• 15:36
  Speaker 9: the other guy's not so much. Uh Rashid, you know,
• 15:39
  Speaker 9: has become in retrospect, A lot of people who grew
• 15:43
  Speaker 9: up here during that time will tell me that Rashid
• 15:46
  Speaker 9: is their favorite player of all time. And uh, I
• 15:49
  Speaker 9: have friends who watched the documentary and said, gosh, he's
• 15:52
  Speaker 9: the funniest guy I've ever seen.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: And I never found him very funny.
• 15:57
  Speaker 9: To tell you the truth, it was you almost had
• 16:02
  Speaker 9: to be there, right, You had to really experience it first,
• 16:06
  Speaker 9: Hawn to know how bad it was.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: The Yeah, he was, he was anything but funny. I'll
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: just say that, like he made and he didn't just
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: make our lives miserable. He made people in the locker
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: room and the front office behind the scenes. Yeah, there's
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: nothing likable or funny about him at all. I never
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: thought and I actually I shouldn't say that. I did
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: chuckle because I was part of the press conference. Both
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: teams played hard, God bless them good night when when
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Carrie kind of went after him a little bit and
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: he just kept hit that that was very Marshawn Lynch
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: before Marshawn Lynch. The difference is Marshaw always did it
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: with He was fun like Marshawn and we all understood
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: the thing I didn't. I did enjoy that press conference
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: after that Dallas game because it was both Mark and
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: my buddy Mark Amazon at the time. You remember Mark
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Mark did after he followed up Kerry all right received
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: both teams played hard, what else you know, and he
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: just he fired it right back off. I think, Carrie,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: this is why are you wasting our time? And I
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's in there, but it should have been. Okay,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: let me get to Tom Dundon because I mentioned this.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: We're going through this up here right now. Dwight James
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: joining us here on the beacon, blooming hotline, the godfather
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: of Portland sports media. We're up here still wondering what's
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: going on with NBA expansion. We have a thing that
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: happened a month and a half ago at the NBA
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: owners meetings, when which Adam Silver said, Hey, yeah, Seattle
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: in Vegas, we're going to start exploring expansion, hoping to
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: have a vote maybe in the summer or later on
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: the year, but make a decision on whether or not
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: we're going to expand by the end of twenty twenty six.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: The feeling up here is that things are in place,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: ownership wise, everything else, they're ready to go. Obviously, the
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: price is probably still being negotiated. The issue is Vegas
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: as well, with can they get their blank together? Would
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: they come in with thirty one teams? Almost the opposite
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: of what the NHL did, Seattle first, Vegas second. NHL
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: was Vegas first, Seattle second, with an odd number of teams.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: All those things are in play, and then there's this
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: other thing going on with Tom Dundon, the owner, the
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: brand new owner of the Portland Trailblazers. I'll just first
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: ask you Tom Dundan, his first month and a half
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: or so on the job in Portland, how's it going.
• 18:10
  Speaker 9: Well, let's just say he hasn't been a great first impression,
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: and a lot of it I think Ian it's unfair
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: to him to a degree. You know, they somebody found
• 18:19
  Speaker 9: out they were they weren't going to put t shirts
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: on the chairs for the fans to wear, you know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: in the playoffs. And my take on that is, you know,
• 18:29
  Speaker 9: they used to put them on the chairs for every
• 18:30
  Speaker 9: playoff game.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: And nobody put them on.
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: And that was the real problem with those things in
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: Portland for some reason. It wasn't like these other cities
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: where everybody was just excited to.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Put those on because they look so good on TV.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Here they never did.
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: It, and I'll be happy to fans, I guess you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: they're never the right size and they're kind of cheap anyway.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: But really, is it worth making a big deal about. No,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: not really.
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: They gave them towels to wave in the air and
• 18:57
  Speaker 9: they didn't waive those either, so really much matter.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: But you know, then there's all these little things.
• 19:03
  Speaker 9: The only thing that would concern me and is is
• 19:07
  Speaker 9: he just doesn't want to pay the coach.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: It's just like in hockey.
• 19:10
  Speaker 9: He always says, I want to put my money on
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: the ice, and here he's saying he wants to put
• 19:14
  Speaker 9: his money on the court and he doesn't want to
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: pay people away from that. And you know a lot
• 19:21
  Speaker 9: of rumors that he wants somebody to come here and
• 19:24
  Speaker 9: coach for a million bucks a year. And you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 9: the average salary now is four million, and I mean
• 19:29
  Speaker 9: I'm talking about rookie coaches four million. You know, this
• 19:32
  Speaker 9: guy's making eighteen nineteen. But that concerns you a little bit.
• 19:37
  Speaker 9: And then you know, cutting down the travel party and leaving,
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: you know, leaving a lot.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Of people off.
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: And I think he's probably going to simulcast the games
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: and do away with either the radio crew or the
• 19:49
  Speaker 9: TV crew, and you know, all of that stuff. And
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: he did all that in hockey, and I'm curious what
• 19:56
  Speaker 9: you have heard about him in the NHL.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: What's the gossip about him?
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: In the end, he's cheap, I mean, el chiepo. He
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you know, he gets away with it because his general
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: manager and his coach are both long tenured guys and
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: they've done a good job of putting together a good
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: product on the ice. It's a salary cap league, so
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: it's and every team in the NHL spends to the
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: salary cap and there's no luxury tax like the NBA,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: so you can't go over it. You know, you spend
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: to whatever that cap is, that cap number is this
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: every particular year, so you know, there's no cheapness in.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: It's not baseball where you can be the Pittsburgh Pirates
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: or something like that, you know, like that or the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Miami Marlins.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: It's not the NBA where you can spend to the cap,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: but you'll never go into the luxury tax threshold, which
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you know you're allowed to do. It's different in the NHL.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: So in terms of player salaries, yeah, when he says,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: you know, I'll put it on the ice, well sure,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: but so do you know thirty one other owners like
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you know, including all the teams that didn't make the playoffs,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the sixteen that didn't make the playoffs. The cheapness is simple.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: And this is where I'll get back to it in
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: a second. It feels like it's this is kind of
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: out of the Clayton Bennett playbook up here in Seattle,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: and I'll tie at Seattle in a second. But the
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: cheapness for him, you just mentioned they're probably going to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: simulcast games, and we have John Fororesland here on our
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: TV broadcast who I think is the best of the business.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: He's here because Tom, because Tom Dundan didn't want to
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: pay him and they wanted simulcast games. And it's like
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the guy was the face and the voice of the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: front and be like, be like the Seahawks. Are the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Mariners getting rid of Dave Knehouse when he was alive?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Or Rick Riz Now you know, we don't want to
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: pay you, Like what you're paying a broadcaster is like
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: lesson a less than a third of what you pay
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: your minor league goaltender in the American League, Like what
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: are you doing? Like and that kind of stuff. And
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: that's so that's his reputation coming in. I was surprised
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the NBA let him in the club, especially a club
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: that thinks that they're going to get seven or more
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: billion dollars out of Seattle.
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't. I don't really get it either. And
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: I will tell you this. You know, Adam Silver set
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: him up by saying, you know, whoever comes into Portland
• 22:02
  Speaker 9: is going to have to do something about that arena.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: It needs updating, blah blah blah, or they need a
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: new arena. It does need updating.
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: It's the oldest one that hasn't been updated actually by now.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: But here's the deal.
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: See, Originally this was going to be a public private partnership.
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: You know, he'd pays something, the city, the state, the
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: county would pay a little bit. They kind of split
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: it up and get the renovation done. Well, now it's
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: quickly gone into the fact that he's not going to
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: pay anything and the government's going to pay the rest.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: And as you.
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: Know down here, the government is even more broke than
• 22:39
  Speaker 9: I am, I think, and so finding that money is
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: not going to be easy. But the state has already
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: kicked in its share, and now it's kind of up
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: to the city to see what it's willing to do.
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: And the problem with it is he's willing to sign
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: like a twenty year lease, but he wants an opt
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: out clause in the lease. Well, to me, you can't
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: pay the six hundred and some odd million for the
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: renovation and you can't allow him to have an opt
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: out in five years or somewhere. He takes off the
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: greener pastures after you've done all this work for him
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: in the arena. And that's I think installed the negotiations nobody,
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: of course, is talking about it. And we have these
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: small town roubes on the city council trying to negotiate
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: with this guy.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: And he's a shark. You know, he is a shark.
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: And you know, like governments everywhere, there's no real business
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: people on that council who are experienced in negotiating. They
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: need to hire negotiators on their behalf or this guy
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: is just going to skin them in negotiations. You know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: he made all his money and those subprime auto loans,
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: and he's negotiated a few things in his life and
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: he's going to get the best deal for him that
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: he can. And I don't really blame him. I mean,
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: that's what people do, you know. And if the city's stoopid, but.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Enough, And by the way, the city bought the.
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: Arena from the Blazers just a few months back for
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: a dollar and thought they had made a really great deal.
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: But there's debt service still in the arena. It needs millions,
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: hundreds of millions of dollars worth of renovation and it's
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: never going to turn a profit. It's always going to
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: be you know, all the maintenance that it takes. And
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: by the way, we're still stuck with Memorial Coliseum because
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: the architects got it declared a historical building so they
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: can't blow it up. And here's this old building building
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: I don't know, sixty two or sixty one or whatever.
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: It was far outlived its usefulness and they keep, you know,
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: doing little tweaks here and there to it, and they
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: do something every year.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: But it's just bleeding money.
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: So now we're gonna have two arenas right next to
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: each other, both of them bleeding money, I think real soon.
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: And you know, the Motor Center, which was called the
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: Rose Garden when it was built, wouldn't have be and
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: been built.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: It's not for Paul Allen. He built it, right. Yeah,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I think you know the city well enough.
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: And I don't believe, honestly, the city would have ever
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: built a new basketball arena.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think it would have happened. I really don't.
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: I would have thought they would have just limped along
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: a Memorial policy of trying to make it work until
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: somebody moved the franchise out of town.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I really believe that.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Do I change John Is Listen, it's city.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: You know, governments aren't the fact that the state's kicking
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: in money before we find out what the lease is,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: which I'm gonna get to that. Just like up here
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: in Seattle, you know, Key Arena was needed to go away,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and the only reason that it got you know, turned
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: into and again, I just for people that say it's
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: a renovation, we're gonna it's I see this all the time.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: There's no renovation there. It's not the same building. It's
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the roof, that's it. I mean, I post pictures on
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: every now and then on social media, say this is
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: what the building looked like. You tell me that's a renovation.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: A renovation, you keep something. There was nothing besides the roof.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: But what scares me, that'shy I think it's the Clayton bennetting.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: And you know we're wondering if we're going to have
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: expansion in Seattle. I don't think. Actually, I'll just say this.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm about as confident as I can be that
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: there is no chance that the ownership group up here,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: which is the ones at the front of the line,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: because wait for it, they control the building Climate Pledge Arena.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Most of you group built the building one roof, foundation,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: owns and operates or runs the building. The city has
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: forty nine percent. Whatever it is. But I don't think
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: anybody up here is going to whatever dirty their hands
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: with Portland. But what scares me is this when this
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: is why Ky Arena was such a And you bring
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: up the lease Key Arena. They signed a fifteen year
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: lease with the Sonics in ninety four. Buying out that
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: last year was really easy to do. When they had that,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: you know that little thing with the city council in
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, there was only a year left
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: on the lease.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: That's fifteen years.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: You're talking twenty Not much difference, how concerned, because I
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: think I think then what you tell me, you run
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: an NBA circles far more than I do. Whether Memphis
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I think is staying. I think he said that today
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: is silver. But whether it be New Orleans or Portland's,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Dallas has some issues going on. Who knows what's going
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: on in Charlotte half the time. What do you hear
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: around the league. Are they more interested in expanding, do
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you think?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Or are they.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Looking to use some teams in some cities like Vegas
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and Seattle. Is negotiating tools and leverage.
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: That's a great question, And I hear both sides in
• 27:30
  Speaker 9: the league. I hear all kinds of stuff. Obviously, there's
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: that group headed by the brilliant James Dolan and your
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: idiot who thinks he's a rock and roll star. I
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: had to sit through his act with his group before
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: an Eagles concert once and I almost asked for my
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: money back. But anyway, he had a group of owners
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: together who didn't want to expand at all because they
• 27:54
  Speaker 9: don't want to share the TV money with two more
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: new teams, right, and I can get that, except they're
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: going to charge of polo money, probably ten billion dollars
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: for an expansion fee, and they're going to add when
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: you add Seattle, you're adding a huge number of television
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: sets all of a sudden, getting your games, so you
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: can charge more for advertising and everything else. But anyway,
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: it's a real strange situation. Silver just jumped the He
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: jumped all those owners who didn't want to expand and
• 28:23
  Speaker 9: made his little announcement. But it was really weird at
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: the time, I thought, and because he just automatically anointed
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: those two cities, Las Vegas and Seattle, which we all
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: knew they were next in line. But still, you usually
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: try to play the cities off each other, you.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Know, and try to yeah, oh you have Vancouver, BC.
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: Shure, make a bid at Kansas City whatever, Austin, Texas,
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: sure give me a bid whatever, you know, Nashville, come
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: on down.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: And so they didn't do that in this case, and
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I saw, I don't really know what's going on.
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: There's a lot of people who think there isn't enough
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: talent in the NBA to have two more teams, and
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: I don't subscribe.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: To that belief at all. There's always enough.
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: Players around and the fans aren't going to notice a
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: drop in quality in the play because there's been such
• 29:12
  Speaker 9: a drop in quality anyway, just because the games are
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: being played the way they are. You know, they've just
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: turned into a home running contest, you know, with three
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: point field goals, and that's really how the game is
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: decided now, and it makes for a lot of boring games.
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: And your star players are missing a ton of games,
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: so that devalues that game that you bought tickets for
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: four months ago wanting to see Cooper Flag play, and
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: he didn't play. Wemby didn't play in Portland this year
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: at all, you know, and he never saw him And
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: that's just the way it works out in this league now,
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: so I don't know really what's going on. Seattle makes
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: a lot of sense to move to Portland. I think
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: when Dundin made his power play, that was his backup
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: plan is to go to Seattle and he could just
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: hitch up a U all trailer and move everything up there.
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: They've got like three years left on the existing lease.
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: I think it's to twenty thirty, and then anything after
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: that is up in the air. And so that's where
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: we stand now. And the people I talk to a
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: government say, oh, yeah, we've agreed to everything, it's just
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: not signed yet. But then we had some of the
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: rogue socialists on the city council. They've kind of disagreed
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: with that, saying no, they're not in yet. But the
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: governor says, the council has enough votes. We'll see what happens.
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: But we have an election coming up in and that
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: means all these politicians are frightened. They don't want to
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: be branded the ones who lost the Blazers, so they're
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: kind of willing to do anything. And Dundon's got a
• 30:46
  Speaker 9: lot of leverage.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: You just caught everyone's attention here. You think that Dundon
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: in the back of his mind, would try to pull
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a Clayton Bennett and not just move the team three
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: years left in the lease. Terrifying by the way, Uh,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: not just move the team, but try to move it
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: here because out Here's why I say that, Like if
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Seattle were to get a team, or if that if
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: the relocation came, I I just I know how important
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Portland is to what the Kraken do, Hell, what the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Mariners do, the Seahawks do. Anybody up here associated with
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: pro sports would want no part of a relocation of
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the Blazers. But if you have a guy that's from
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Texas who has a team in Carolina in Portland, he
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: probably doesn't care.
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: You're exactly right on that. I think word is out
• 31:35
  Speaker 9: that he doesn't care. And the first interviews he gave
• 31:42
  Speaker 9: he was wearing a heart for Yes, did you see
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: what a state?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: But that is huh And I should just point out
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: that would be like someone buying a team, Like if
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Clayton Bennett bought a team, he's wearing a Sonics hat
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and he's the owner of the Oklahoma Sea Thunder because
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: they moved Hartford to Carolina. That's that was the equivalent. Yeah,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that was I decided it's whatever. I mean, I just
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: want to I see stuff like that. It just brings
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: up all kinds of bad feelings and memories for anybody
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: up here in Seattle, because it's again, it's it's That's
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: what it is, right, That's what it is. It's it's
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: the it's the Clayton Bennett playbook. He's he's right now
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: trying to get money from the government, working with a
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: very short lease, kind of cutting the media off at
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the at the at the knees, the consolidation of a broadcast,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: which really kind of hurts your marketing abilities in a
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: lot of different ways. These are all the these are
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: all the you know, I mean, this is this is
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: from Clayton Bennett's playbook. Man, It's like he's reading Clayton
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Bennett's book. It's like Clayton's calling him. Here's what you
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: do next, Here's what you do next. Here's what you
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: do next. It's it's terrifying to be honest with you.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I.
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: A cynic, which I probably am, and I think you
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: know I am, But I think a cynic would say
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: he's leaving the door open to something like that and
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: if you can't get the thing done with him with
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: a long term lease. And Paul Allen worked on a
• 33:05
  Speaker 9: thirty year lease and he built a dang building himself,
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: you know. But but he had the interest of the
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: city at heart. And don't I'll never let anybody here
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: tell me Paul Allen was a bad owner. Paul Allen
• 33:18
  Speaker 9: was great to the city of Portland, he really was.
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: And honestly, I just uh, it was to shape the
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: way everything went down.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: And his kind of memory.
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: Is being spoiled by the reign of Burke cold and
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: Jody Allen running the team the last seven years, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: it wasn't the same as when Paul was here, and
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: that's unfortunate.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: That is indeed.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Substack, how's it going tell people where they can read
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: you stuff? Buddy, Oh yeah, just.
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: Just go to substack dot Dwight James dot com and
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: uh yeah, you get one freebe and then it's going
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: to cost you a few bucks. But I don't think
• 33:55
  Speaker 9: eight dollars a month is going to put anybody in
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: the poorhouse.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: That's like half of a beer at a cracking game.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Probably right now, I'll stop it. Stop that.
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: You can find some good deals what did they charge
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: it down there for a beer? I mean, I know
• 34:11
  Speaker 10: what they get here, and it's a lot. That's just
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: pro sports in general. I checking my paycheck stub Sale
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: Hockey Partners. Yeah, I know it's it's more than affordable
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: there at Climate Pledgeter. I don't know what you're speaking of. So, ye,
• 34:25
  Speaker 10: more than affordable. I don't know what you're talking about, godfather,
• 34:28
  Speaker 10: I don't know what you're meaning there.
• 34:29
  Speaker 9: So I got you know one other thing you did
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: for me that you know, I don't know that you
• 34:34
  Speaker 9: ever knew you did it for me. There was there
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: was one time when you were hosting Talking Ball that
• 34:38
  Speaker 9: you couldn't make it. Yeah, and of course they had
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: to have a host, and the host came down from Seattle.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: With the producer who was Ross at the time.
• 34:48
  Speaker 9: And ut, can you guess who that host was your
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: guest host for that night of Talking Ball?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Oh? Boy? Was it Brook? Nope?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: God, I'm trying to think who would have been.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, let me give you a nice hint.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: She's in the news a lot lately.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Oh God, yes, Well, you know what I tell the
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: story people, She started her on air career here with
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: doing that doing updates with Yeah, I blame Softy. She
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: was doing updates with Softy. I think he led her astray.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's all soft as fault myself. Yeah, well wow, wow,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: that goes in the book at some point, doesn't it.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: You know Russini's time Comcast Sports Net Northwest.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can always tell people I know her. I
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: was introduced.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, I ran into her during my time covering
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the NFL with the Hawks on all those years with Fox. Probably,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I've got I mean, I got a fault.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I got pictures on my phone of like, hey, there's
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: there's my feen Diane Edward. You know, we take a
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: picture on the field.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I said something to Purple Sheet over here, our boss,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I said I should tweet this out. Hey, you know
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I'm supporting he goes, don't you dare?
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: So?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Trust me.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not putting any pictures out there with her and
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I standing next to each other because I'm not an
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: NFL player.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wasn't that guy.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, good times we put a Hey, we
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: made stars on that show, whether it be Russini, Brooke,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Abby Chin, I mean they're all there. Mayowski's the main
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: anchor up here. Now, yeah, I mean they're all they're
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: all stars. You and I are just sitting here getting
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: through life somehow. So I think we were star makers,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: my friend.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think so. Everybody's a star but me. Yeah,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: and me and the doctor stopped barking.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll let you go do that. Great catching up
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: with you, my friend. I appreciate it. Thank you, Dwight.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Always a pleasure.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: That is day James will take a quick break. Come back,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: wrap up hour number one next.
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now
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• 36:58
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• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Kji.
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: Seattle makes a lot of sense to move to Portland.
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: I think when Dundon made his power play, that was
• 37:11
  Speaker 9: his backup plan is to go to Seattle and he
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: could just hitch up a you all trailer and move
• 37:18
  Speaker 9: everything up there.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: They've got like three years left on the existing lease.
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: I think it's to twenty thirty and then anything after
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: that is.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Up in the air.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Dwy James godfather in Portland, just dropped that one.
• 37:35
  Speaker 11: On us.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Damn, I don't know.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: I have a lot of questions fire Away number one.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: If that were the case, what would the ownership situation
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: look like, because we already know that even.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Though if he would move it it's building. Yeah, I
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: mean he'd have to negotiate a lease with one roof. Yeah,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't make sense because your least agreement's not going to be.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Great for you, right, Yeah, that would be it. Wow.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I Like I said, I just don't think that they
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: want to dirty their hands. I just I can't fathom
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: that being the case.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: That and you talked about it.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: That's also a dundant thing, like that's not that's not
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: anybody here saying that.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Right, No, yeah, totally totally. It's not like that's what
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: they want, you know what I mean.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: They want an expansion exactly.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: But I think what you said in the first segment
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: about you know, people maybe not being as happy. But
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: then once the announcement would be made that we expect
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: to come that Seattle's getting an NBA team, all that
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: would change for the for the majority. I think there's
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: one scenario where that doesn't And if it's yeah, exactly
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: like this.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I think relocation for the NBA here would be fine
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: if it wasn't Portland. And again, as much as there's
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: a rivalry, and you know, we chant Portland sucks at
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: every team or game and we bring that on like
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: all that stuff.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I get all that.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I understand that because that's good for you, Like you
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: want that. Yeah, first of all, you want the rivalry.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Second of all, I think, doing long ago, did I stop,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Like when Sacramento was a possibility to move here. There
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: was like a minute where I thought, Nah, this is
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: kind of brutal, this is gross. Like a minute, you
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: don't want what happened to you something. There was like
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: a minute then I thought, well, whatever, let's just get
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: a team back here. Expansion. I don't even know how
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: i'd feel about. I just know this Portland is a
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: no for me. It's just an absolute know all day
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: for me. And I think really it would be for
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: the group here too. I think there would be some
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: pushback from them to the NBA saying, listen, your only
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: option is to play here. You got to negotiate with us.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: His revenue streams aren't great in that regard. It's what
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: they're They're having an issue in Dallas with that very thing.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Right now, it doesn't make sense. But what Dwight said,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: this is a guy that is he's he is cheap
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: el cheap, oh, that's his nickname as an owner. He
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: wants to pay a coach, you know, five or six
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: times under the market value for a first time. It's
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: just ridiculous what this guy's up to. And three years
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: left on the lease, that's what would worry me. Three
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: years left on the lease to me is a's that's
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: a scary proposition because we had two years left here
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: and when he bought the team, it would have been
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: what he had four years one two. He had three
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: years left on the lease when he bought the team.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: And the timing with this, with the whole vote being
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: pushed back because of Vegas, has me a little scared.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. It has me a little scared
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: of the possibility that Dundon kind of knows what's happening.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Well, he knows the tea leaves and he knows what's
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: going on more than we do. Right when he bought
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: the team. I yeah, actually think about it. It's the
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: timeline in terms of the lease is exactly the same
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: because they played two seasons here and they got out
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: of the last season of the lease. Right, yep, maybe
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: there's one more. Maybe my mouth is off by year,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: It's one year.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: They said it ends at twenty thirty. Actually, okay, so
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: twenty thirty, so he would have so there's one more year.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: He would have two years, right dundon, right, yeah, and
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: then one more year after that three years left. Well,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Clayton Bennett played two years here and then left before
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: the final year.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: It's the same same thing.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, gross, very gross.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to hate the NBA again, I really am.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: It's just how they operate. Yeah, like, just sell give
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: us an expansion team for six billion dollars. That's still
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: over what the market. He bought the Blazers for four
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: four point four. Just sell us a team for five
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: five and a half. Let's just move on. What are
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: we doing here?
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Right? What are we doing?
• 41:49
  Speaker 12: Well?
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: I think if again, if it were that simple, I
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: mean it's it's if Vegas were have arena like we do,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: and ready I think that would have happened, right.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Vegas is a problem. I think Vegas
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: is a big problem. All right, good times four nine,
• 42:03
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• 42:05
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• 42:10
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• 42:32
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• 42:36
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• 42:39
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• 42:42
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• 42:44
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• 42:46
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• 42:47
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• 42:49
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• 42:52
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• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Damon Jones became the first NBA player. He's an assistant
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: coach right now. Was to play guilty in a gambling
• 43:01
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• 43:03
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• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Lasers trying to stay alive. They are in San Antonio
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: taking on the Spurs. Down three to one. Nix and
• 43:11
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• 43:14
  Speaker 1: They can close out the Sixers tonight as well. NHL Playoffs,
• 43:18
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• 43:21
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• 43:25
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• 43:27
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• 43:30
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• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I was wondering.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Boston and Sabers are also playing Buffalo and closed out
• 43:35
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• 43:38
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• 43:40
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• 43:40
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• 43:43
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• 43:47
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• 44:03
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• 44:09
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• 44:11
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• 44:28
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• 44:30
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• 44:34
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• 44:38
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• 44:40
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• 45:02
  Speaker 1: so yeah, it's turned into smoothie breakfast and wait for dinner.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I guess, which is good. Probably a good thing for me.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: All Right, let's uh before we get to Joe Sian
• 45:12
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• 45:14
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• 45:16
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• 45:18
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• 45:20
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• 45:22
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• 45:25
  Speaker 1: friends in the NFC West, the forty nine ers, the Rams, Seattle, Arizona,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: and whatever else he's got on his mind today. It's
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: coming up at two pm today. Uh, but I mentioned
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: we did this last week, just my Catholic upbringing our
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: lady of Fatama Oday High School for me.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: They what I hated more than anything was.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I think they called it the Sacramento Pennance confession based
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: is that what it is?
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Reconciliation? Thank you very much?
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Do you like it used to be did in a
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: little box? Yeah, then they did face to f I
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: don't know if they're still doing that.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Well, you can you have an option?
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I know, answer the options.
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: No.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: I tried my first communion eight years old.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I took my first ever stand as a young man
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: back in the day.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing it.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: At a day saying I'm not telling a mortal being
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: what my sins are, especially face to face. I did
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: that at oday and it did not go over well.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it did not not. But you know what,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: you were like a league of their own, madonnas.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I won the battle. I didn't do it.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Good for you, I do it.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't do it. I said, I can ask
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: for forgiveness from the man above. I don't need you
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: guy to look at it. As it turns out, some
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: of those dudes are probably not guys that should be
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: taking confession in the Seattle Arts dioceese, Yeah, all joking aside.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: No, it's true.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but confession is still there and I got one
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: today and I'd be interested to think. But you two
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: think of this and then what everybody else does as well,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I say, kind of a polarizing thing. I don't think
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: it's going to be popular. Maybe it will be. But
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I heard earlier something that just caught my attention with
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Chris Kidd and Greg Bell, and I thought, yeah, man,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: And it kind of came into play last night because
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I was watching for some reason CBC didn't have They
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: had a listed, but they didn't have the late game
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: with Utah and Anaheim on or utaon Vegas, I should say,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: which was a terrific playoff hockey game. It's just a
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: terrific game. And I'm watching that and then the game
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: ends and here's my confession.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: Oh, I know where this is going.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I'm done with Scott Van Pelt.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Can't do it. I can't do it. I just can't
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: do it. It's Scott Van Pelt overload. There's two things
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: at ESPN that are just shoved down your throat or
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: your viewing eyes.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: There's three letters for each one, SVP and sas Stephen A.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Smith Scott Van Pelt. They're very different, very different. I
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: understand that I just too much Scott Van Pelt. He's,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: first of all, we all are in a business where
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: you have to know a little bit about a lot
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: of things. To be an expert on everything is impossible. Yeah,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: they have a guy in the morning that portrays at
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Steven A.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Smith.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: But Scott vampilt I just too much. And the only
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: reason I thought of that is because I turned it
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: off right away. I was like, and this is he's
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: arguably one of the most talented people in the business. Absolutely,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: and for me to be sitting here in a radio
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: station in Seattle, I'm not trashing his talent. It's just
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: not my not my cup of tea, it's not my taste.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: And I heard Chris and I think it was Greg
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: brought up. Yeah, I missed the days of just like
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Stuart Scott, Dan Patrick. Just give me the highlights and
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: you can have some fun with them. But those two
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: A two person show is better than a one person show.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Always.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, honest to God, it does not matter
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: who and what you are.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: It's just better. So why I incorporate the two of you?
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: Not because I Oh, I thought, it's because we were
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: vildly talented.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Very talent.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: You're it's more entertaining to have your two voices on
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: than just me pontificating.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: It just is I think more people the better, exactly.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: And Stanford Steve doesn't count because I can do without
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: that too. But the I'm just I can't handle it.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: That's my confession. Blessed me Father. I've said, I know
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: that's not popular. I know everyone wants to love SVP
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: and just worship his altar. I get that I can't
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: do it. I cannot do it. I immediately switch the
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: channel and again, talented dude man guys, one of the
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: most successful build a brand. Good for him. I'm just
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: just not my cup of tea. Yeah maybe, ma if
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: you agree four nine four to five one, if you
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: think I'm the biggest more on four nine four to
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: five one, doesn't matter. I don't know if anybody'll agree
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: with me. Like I said, I think it's a polarizing
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: topic because he's kind of one of those guys that
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: everyone seems to love. I you know, like Mina Kimes,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: most people love, but a lot of people don't. I
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: never hear any SVP hate. And I'm not hating. I'm
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: just saying it's not my It's just not something I'm into.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Am I wrong?
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Like, Like, how dumb am.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: I hot take? I don't think this is a sin.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: I really don't. But not because of Scott Van Pelt himself.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: I just don't think he's a post game guy, you
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: know what I mean?
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all he is.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: That's the only thing. The position they put it right exactly.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: It's the structure of the show that yes that I like.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: It's Monday Night football exactly, Monday Night Football's on.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: After that, like Joe Buck and Troy Aikman tossed right
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: to him and he does the interview with the guy
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: on the sideline from the studio. It's weird. I don't
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: like it.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and I think that's part of it. I
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: think he's put in this situation.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: It's kind of hard, just like, hey, we just had
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: our post game show. Let's go to let's go to
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Sports Center.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: We've got Laura freaking rut Ledge right there.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: How her do it?
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: You know, and actually, unlike a lot of sideliners, Laura
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: actually is really good and ask a good questions. She
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: just go how did it feel?
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: Talk about that play? Yeah, she didn't do that.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: No, you know, she's really good. I mean I I yeah, no,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: so Jess, you you got a gasp, so I know
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: you don't agree with me.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Well no, well I actually just wanted to Hey, yeah,
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: I finished that.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: You're welcome, audience who are viewing right now.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: But I totally understand exactly what you're saying, because I mean,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: I'm friends with both Stanford and with SVP, and I
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: worked with him, and so everybody when they find out
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: that you worked at ESPN, Right, they want to hear
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: the horror stories and everything. And he is so overly
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: widely loved because it's true, it's true that he is
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: an awesome person and everything. But it's okay to acknowledge
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: that someone is a really good person.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: You don't have to want to watch him.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Well, it's just too much. Yeah, it's just too much.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: It's like NC double a tournament, like the conference tournaments
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: he was coming on after that. He never talks college
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: basketball until then, he never talks hockey, but after a
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: hockey game, he's going to talk hockey. NBA is a
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: little more in tune with I mean, really, he's a
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: golf guy.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Actually if he's doing technolog if he was doing golf,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I'll watch, yeah, because he's a great golfer or reporter
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: back in the day. It's kind of where he got started,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: and and so that i'd watch, you know, Monday night football,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: college football, blah blah blah.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: One guy.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: No I'm not, I'm just I'm just not into it.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: And that's it.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: But again, I think it's just because there's too much.
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an oversaturation.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Just give me a show, Give me a like I
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: think Anders you said it, well, he's it's a post
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: game show.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: It's not even an anchoring anymore.
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: And it's right, it's not Sports Center.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: No, no, no no. So anyway, that's me four nine
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: four five one.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: I guess that that that's not a deadly sin. That's
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: not a deadly sports in. It's a confession, but not
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: a deadly sin.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: You know, people texting, and we'll get to the textan
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: form at two thirty today. But you know, I think,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I mean Kelsey's kind of getting to that point. Yeah,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: the brother Yeah, Jason, right, Jason, Jason, Yeah, he's getting
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: that way.
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: He's got the McAfee paintbrush all over.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't Pat McAfee. We're done with too. But
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: that's that's all important.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: And it seems like, especially with ESPN, the way that
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: they've kind of gone about things, they've tried to like
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: eliminate anyone who isn't just a giant brand, you know
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: what I mean, And there's no specialization anymore. Yeah, and
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: it's just like if you can do a bunch of
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: these things, I'm entertaining.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: They do some great television, like I'll say this, their
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: college football final Fantastic is one of the most underrated
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: shows on television. Joey Galloway just does a EJ manuals
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: with him this year, and Matt Barry was the host,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: but they're moving him because he's working for the SEC.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Hey moved him to the number one guy for the
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: SEC networkcause Laura can't do anymore. So I don't know
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: who they're gonna place him with, but he was. That's
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: a phenomenon. And you know what, they never pushed that show,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: They never promoted it. He didn't know when it was on,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: and it was such a good show. It is such
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: a good show. And they do good stuff.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: I don't hate NFL Live either, and they do.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Some good lives does a good job.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean they've gotten cheap over the years,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Like you get rid of hassleback for Alex Smith, that's
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: done really Like why.
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: Matt was one of the best people.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: So good on TV. He's so good on telem Vision.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's just smart and funny and engaging.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: All right, Well that's my that's my confession. My confession
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: is really simple. I'm just not a Scott Van Pelt.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: Fan giant fan.
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: You're not a super fan yeah, that's all.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: We'll get to those all right. I'm a fan Joshian.
• 54:13
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• 54:59
  Speaker 1: we see, he's taking some pressure off jests. Joshian joined
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: us right now. Hello, sir, how are you?
• 55:04
  Speaker 14: I'm glad that you're not parenty a camrady.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not thrilled about it either, but you know,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: we live in a world now multimedia, sir. That's what
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: we we do in this world of multi media. Just
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: got caught eating lunch earlier, apparently on the.
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: YouTube, so it was my first meal of the day.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: So anyway, cameras are always hot, Mike's always.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: That's at dinner. Listen.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I just told you I got to adjust my whole
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: thing now too, which is a probably a good thing
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: because we're on at noon, So a little lighter lunch,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: if anything at all, usually smooth and away we go.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: All right, enough for the food talk, Joe. There's a
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: lot going on in baseball. Two managers have been fired.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: We'll get to those guys. Luis Castill continues to struggle.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that. Let me kind of here we are.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: We're literally, I mean, I look at the calendar. We're
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: a month into the season. The Mariner started on March
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: twenty sixth, so April twenty eighth, we're a month into
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: the year. We're thirty games in or so. For all
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: these teams around baseball right now, when we look around
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: the league, who are the teams that are struggling that
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: most prize? You Boston fired their manager, Toronto's got injuries,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Kansas City six games below five hundred, Houston seven, they've
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: got injuries as well. Mets are ten games below five hundred,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: as are the Phillies Brewers a playoff team last year.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: They're in last place in their division, but that's but
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: they're above five hundred. Their divisions that good, actually the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Central least early on. We expect Colorado to be bad
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: as well. So let's let's look around. We'll get to
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: the specific teams firing their managers. But who are the
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: teams that are most disappointing in your mind?
• 56:28
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I would say the furthest from where my preseasons
• 56:31
  Speaker 14: directions were all the Phillies and the Red Sox. I
• 56:33
  Speaker 14: had them both winning their divisions and all the little
• 56:35
  Speaker 14: down on the Philly for offseason. I still thought they'd
• 56:37
  Speaker 14: be the best team in that NLH group. They just
• 56:41
  Speaker 14: a lot of things have gone wrong for them. They
• 56:42
  Speaker 14: had a really bad injury. They did re sign Kyle Schwarber,
• 56:45
  Speaker 14: but the moves that they made to try to get better,
• 56:48
  Speaker 14: promoting Justin Crawford, the center, h Chining, Avillains Garcia to
• 56:53
  Speaker 14: play right, none of those have really worked out. You know,
• 56:55
  Speaker 14: some injuries early. I'm not sure there's a bigger gap
• 56:58
  Speaker 14: between what you would expect from Zach Wheeler and what
• 57:00
  Speaker 14: they got from Taiwan Walker in April, so that really
• 57:03
  Speaker 14: hurt them as well a lot, and they're genuinely bad,
• 57:06
  Speaker 14: like there's some teams that are unlucky. The Phillies are
• 57:09
  Speaker 14: legitimately bad. They have, I believe, as of today, the
• 57:12
  Speaker 14: worst run differential in base so it's legitimate that they're
• 57:15
  Speaker 14: not good. And then the Red Sox, you know, I
• 57:17
  Speaker 14: just the offense. I mean, the pitching has been passable,
• 57:19
  Speaker 14: but the offense is just absolutely terrible. They're not hitting
• 57:22
  Speaker 14: the ball hard, making really bad swinging decisions. I didn't
• 57:25
  Speaker 14: love the way Alex Corr was managing some of the
• 57:27
  Speaker 14: young players, and I think that move is actually going
• 57:29
  Speaker 14: to work out for them. So I would say those
• 57:32
  Speaker 14: are the two teams for some expectations right now.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about Boston. Alex Cora gets fired immediately
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: gets apparently a call from Philadelphia, so someone elsewhere thought
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: he was doing okay. But at twelve and seventeen, what
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: were the specific reasons. I know you wrote about it
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: that Alex Korra got turfed.
• 57:47
  Speaker 14: Well, I think Coorin is just not a great match
• 57:49
  Speaker 14: for the current Red Sox. We're kind of going to
• 57:52
  Speaker 14: this transition to these young knders Roban Anthony and Marcella Meyer.
• 57:56
  Speaker 15: Wilier.
• 57:56
  Speaker 14: Brain's been established for a couple of years. Now they're
• 57:59
  Speaker 14: moving into this new phase where hey, look, we want
• 58:01
  Speaker 14: to have the home grown team. And you Cora, he
• 58:04
  Speaker 14: won back in twenty eighteen, first year on the job,
• 58:06
  Speaker 14: wins the World Series, and I think there are a
• 58:09
  Speaker 14: lot of people that will always have a special place
• 58:11
  Speaker 14: for him. But he looks since then nineteen the team
• 58:14
  Speaker 14: wasn't very good. He was suspended for the twenty twenty
• 58:16
  Speaker 14: seasons such as it was because of his involvement in
• 58:19
  Speaker 14: the Astros science steeling scandal. And then a five years
• 58:22
  Speaker 14: since then, two trips to the playoffs, three three teams
• 58:25
  Speaker 14: that were basically five hundred eight teams, and he's been
• 58:28
  Speaker 14: posting on reputation for quite a long time. Very respected
• 58:31
  Speaker 14: in the game. Even before he got the job in Boston,
• 58:34
  Speaker 14: he was expected to be a manager. But I don't
• 58:37
  Speaker 14: know necessarily that the track record backed the reputation. And
• 58:40
  Speaker 14: I am certain that bringing up Chad Tracy, who managed
• 58:44
  Speaker 14: a lot of these young hitters at Worcester Worcesters. I'm
• 58:53
  Speaker 14: not doing it out from Boston. I'm from New York.
• 58:55
  Speaker 14: I can get that wrong, but I think you look
• 58:57
  Speaker 14: at the success of a player that the players had
• 59:01
  Speaker 14: under Tracy and tripa A. He's familiar with him. Seventeen
• 59:05
  Speaker 14: guys on this roster, he's married, he's managed already twelve
• 59:08
  Speaker 14: of the substantial players we don't play if he had
• 59:10
  Speaker 14: substantial time with him in Luster. So I love this
• 59:13
  Speaker 14: pairing of manager with the current roster, and I think
• 59:16
  Speaker 14: it was the right time to get.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Rid of core the Let's let's talk about what happened
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: with Thompson in Philadelphia, and he's replaced by the son
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: of the GM, Don Maddingley, of course, a legendary name
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: in baseball, former Dodgers manager, right and as well, So
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: let's talk about what Philadelphia did.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Was it the right move? Yeah?
• 59:37
  Speaker 14: Just be the father of the GM. I don't know
• 59:39
  Speaker 14: if Preston Mattingley has a kid, but I don't think
• 59:41
  Speaker 14: we were talking about like Gary in that movie back
• 59:45
  Speaker 14: in the day. Yeah, but yeah, Preston Mattingly is the
• 59:48
  Speaker 14: GM and Don Madley is not a manager. I disagree,
• 59:52
  Speaker 14: not terribly strongly, but strongly enough. And as a lot
• 59:54
  Speaker 14: of differences between this situation and the one in Boston
• 59:57
  Speaker 14: I mentioned Kor not being a match for the turn
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 14: over in the roster. Well, this is the same team
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 14: that Rob Thompson has been managing for four years. He's
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 14: never failed. He took over the team in the early
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 14: twenty two and he made the playoffs four straight years.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 14: So now to decide after twenty eight games you don't
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 14: want that guy running the team when you can point
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 14: to specific problems that have nothing to do with Rob Thompson.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 14: I mentioned Adolistarciia in right field. I mentioned Justin Crawford
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 14: coming up to play center. I mentioned not having wheeler
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 14: Jase Rea Nudo has been out with an injury, Jwan
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 14: Duran's been out with an injury. There are a lot
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 14: of reasons that this team isn't playing well that really
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 14: had a hard time pinning on Rob Thompson. So I
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 14: think this is a big panic move by the Fillings.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 14: To Bimber, we talked in the offseason a long Turners
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 14: thirty three, Schwarber's thirty three, Harper's thirty three, Pree Ludos
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 14: thirty six, Wheelers thirty six. This is a team that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 14: has to win now. The catches Ian, I don't know
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 14: who who's your favorite player.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Ever, My favorite player ever, Oh, Gene Tennis.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 14: For me, it's Don Madley. Okay, so I hate that.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 14: I've got to say this, Don Manningley is not a
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 14: good manager. If five years with those Dodgers got really
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 14: out managed in those last year's played, this is when
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 14: the Dodgers were just getting good again. He had three
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 14: years taking into the playoffs, really did poor jobs in
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 14: those playoffs and went to Miami, had seven seasons. The
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 14: one year he made the playoffs was the twenty twenty season,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 14: when everybody made the playoffs. The rest of the years
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 14: and there he didn't even have a five hundred team.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 14: He's just not a good manager. And replacing Thompson with Manningley,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 14: I don't think it's going to help them at all.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 14: And let's gets into like why do you replace a
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 14: manager If you're Boston. You fired Cora, but you also
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 14: fired four guys on the staff. You didn't just turn
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 14: and say the guy who was sitting next to Cora,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 14: you're our guy. But that's what the Phillies have done here.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 14: They just turned the team from Rob Thompson, who had
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 14: four years of success in twenty games and twenty eight
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 14: games of failure. He said to the guy next to him,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 14: you're going to take over, and I just hate doing that.
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  Speaker 14: I just don't think you can say this guy isn't
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 14: good for us, but this guy who was right there
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 14: all the time is good for I think it's a
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 14: terrible approach to to management. So there's just nothing about
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 14: the Phillies move by the way.
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  Speaker 1: I'm let me clarify. Gene Tennis was a player for
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: the A's who was a catcher in first baseman when
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: they were the running through a dynasty time in the seventies.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: We didn't have the Mariners yet they were people gonna
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: know who the hell's Gen Tennis and why is your
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: favorite player? That was like my first exposure to baseball.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: They were on TV on Saturday Morning Baseball every week
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: because they were good. I almost said Cell Bandal, but
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I was a catcher in first baseman because I was
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: very unathletic, and so I was a Gene Tennis guy.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Even have a baseball autograph from him, my buddy got
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: a few years ago. I'm weird. I get it. Currently
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: it's Josh Naylor because he's Canadian and he's mean and
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: he doesn't like to talk to guys at first base,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: and I like that a lot. But yeah, I'm not
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: gonna say Griffy like everybody else in Seattle. And I
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: love the fact that Maddams were our favorite players, much
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: like Gene Tennis a legendary mustache back in the day.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Lose the mustache and you lose your superpowers.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Don.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's working for you right now, buddy,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: That's all. I want to read something here because this
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: will Andrews. Listen carefully, Chris Crawford, if you're out there,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Nathan Bishop, listen carefully. This is what Joe wrote in
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: regards to Don Mattingly. He was exposed as a poor
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: tactician during the team's playoff runs in the middle of
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: the decade that moved on to Miami, where his team's
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: never reached eighty wins in the season. But the emphasis
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: here poor tactician during the team's playoff runs in the
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: middle of the decade. Andrews, Does that resonate at all
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: with you? Yes, okay, I'm just checking.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, What is it?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: What is it bad tactician in baseball these days? Joe?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 14: Well, there aren't a whole lot of offensive tactic yous anymore, right,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 14: We don't really bump as much because only a four
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 14: man benches, there's not a lot of opportuning that you
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 14: really get to do. The Rats have a couple of these,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 14: but really it's about running opinions. Now, do you recognize
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 14: when a starter has to leave the game? Do you
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 14: pick the right relievers for the right reasons? Are you know?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 14: Are you overworking guys? Are you underworking guys? Really about
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 14: running a pitching staff, And I mean I thought we
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 14: were fired by this last week. Obviously, Wilson had had
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 14: a tough I think last Monday they played the game
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 14: where when he went to Casey Liginia and I didn't
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 14: work out. I don't I think this all last I
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 14: defended specific moves that Wilson made that were controversial, but
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 14: on the whole, I think he had a really bad October.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 14: You're not going to fire the guy who gets you
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 14: to the playoffs. Generally speaking, you won the division. It's
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 14: hard to fire that guy. But I do think that
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 14: it's hanging out. And even if the Mariners do you
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 14: make the playoffs again this year, you're kind of going
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 14: into the playoffs with this manager who's really shown himself
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 14: to struggle in those to make that shift from running
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 14: a team over one hundred and sixty two games, which
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 14: does require a certain set of skills, and then running
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 14: a team when you have to win that night's game
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 14: and that's all that matters. They are really separate jobs,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 14: and not all managers have been able to make transitions.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 14: Gave Roberts, who has three rings now. If you go
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 14: back to the sixteen and seventeen's first trips to the
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 14: playoffs with the Thetaing Dodgers, he made mistake after mistake
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 14: after mistake. He had to get reps in the playoffs
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 14: to get better than that. That's a real thing for
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 14: managers in baseball, getting into the playoffs, making those decisions,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 14: understanding the way things shift. So it's entirely possible Wilson
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 14: will get to the playoffs this year as I project
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 14: them to be, and not make the mistakes he made
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 14: last year. So I don't think you want to give
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 14: up on him necessarily. It's also very rare in today's
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 14: game for a manager to lose his job for tactical reasons.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 14: See one example. I could think there was Meg Jos
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 14: who was fired by the Brewers with about three weeks
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 14: left in the two thousand and seven eight season, basically
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 14: because he was making mistakes of this nature and we
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 14: don't expect that manager are now expected to manage people,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 14: manage the clubhouse, and work with the front office when
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 14: it comes to some of the things that say we
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 14: would have expected Earl Weasan to do forty years ago.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Josh and joining Josh Newsletter, Joe Shean dot com and Andrews.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Did that catch your attention in there as well?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think it did a little bit.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: All right, And I'm gonna point this out because I
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: think Joe made a good point here, like and this
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: is probably the difference between a Dan Wilson and Don
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Mattingly is that this is Dan's first job, and people say, well, yeah,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: it's his first job. You shouldn't, Okay, take that aside.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: It's his first job. Mattingly's had a number of chances
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: at the kick of the can and it hasn't worked out.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: As opposed to Dave Roberts, like you said, Dave Roberts
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: to me is kind of more of a comp right,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: like to Dan Wilson in the sense that all right,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: got through it, got to figure some stuff out, learn
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: from it. You're gonna learn from it, and there's still
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: maybe a big upside with Dan Wilson, and we never
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: know what's coming from the front office. The lego meaning
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: thing last week was weird to get DFA the next day.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: Which is weird because it was a high leverage situation.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and all those things, But I would take it
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: as like, I look at Dan Wilson, Okay, you got
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs one time. Let's get back there and
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: see if you've you know, learned from Bizartle and other mistakes.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 14: I's completely agree. You can make a case that Wilson
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 14: deserves a chance to say, make the same mistakes, but
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 14: to have learned from a mistates.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 15: A year later.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 14: Mattingly, I mean that hasn't matter in the playoff game
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 14: and AID team. You know, so eleven years now, So
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 14: you make the case that you know he's learned in
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 14: that time, and he's gonna be working with a very
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 14: smart front officer in Philly, guys like Sam Fould and
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 14: Red Rice and really know what they're doing. So I'm
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 14: not I don't want to say this can't work out.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 14: In fact, I think in the short term it's going
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 14: to look great because, first of all, a good team
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 14: going nine to nineteen. They're going to regress to their meeting, right,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 14: They're gonna they've gott Wheeler back, They're gonna ge drawn back.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 14: They need to get renew it back. But over the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 14: next two weeks they don't play anybody. It's Giants, Marlins,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 14: Rockies and A's and some orders that are probably messed up.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 14: So you look at the next four series three them
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 14: at home getting your better players back. I'm telling you
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 14: in two weeks we're gonna be hearing all about Don
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 14: Mattingley leaves the Phillies to a surge, when really it's
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 14: about regression in the schedule.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Let let's talk a little, Louise Casteele. I are buddy
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Luke Aarkins does a great job covering the Mariners. Pointed
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: out last year, from the start of August to the
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: early September, he had almost the same numbers he has
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: recently in his six starts. His six starts right now
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: twenty eight and a third six point three five ere
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: giving up thirty eight hits in those twenty eight innings,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: twenty four runs, four home runs, strikeout rate below twenty percent,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: batting average three seventeen OBP three eighty three, slugging five
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: hundred against Louis Castile. Yes, the weather wasn't good last night.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: It wasn't good for either team to get that, but
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Louis Castile concern. No, Yes, what's what's our concern level?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 14: Increasing concern. We talked about him a two weeks ago
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 14: and I said, hey, sarely do you want to but
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 14: when you start to look at the broader picture, you'll
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 14: go back to even like twenty two twenty one, he's
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 14: lost over time two miles an hour off both basketballs.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 14: Still was pretty hard ninety four eight or so, but
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 14: that's significant, you, Chase. I think more distinct thing is
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 14: the way he's changes the picture. He leaves on the
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 14: fastball in a way that he didn't four years ago.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 14: He was pretty much fastball change up even a couple
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 14: of years back, and now he's like forty percent fastball,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 14: twenty five percent change up. He doesn't use the change
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 14: up as much. The combination of all of these things
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 14: has just need to get hit a lot more, just
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 14: on a very basic level. I mean, forget the strike
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 14: out rate and kind of go down to the pitch level.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 14: Guys make more contact off him than they have at
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 14: any point in his career. When he throws the ball
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 14: in the zone, they're making a lot more contact, and
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 14: this shows up in numbers like expected slugging, actual slugging, Wolva,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 14: expected wolva. He's just much easier to hit. And he's
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 14: not somebody who's typically somebody who like goes out of
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 14: the zone money. There's a lot of strikes, and right
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 14: now that's not working for him because the law stuff
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 14: isn't good enough for him to live in his own anymore.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 14: So he's just he's throwing strikes the way he always had.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Din't get knocked around the Uh yeah, I mean, and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have decisions. You know, when Bryce Miller is
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: back and healthy and ready to go, we'll see where
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: he's going to be. And and you know they've got
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, Hancock has been has pitched very well this
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: season four. And they got Kate Anderson, who they're not
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: going to bring up right now obviously, but they they
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: do have decisions to make. I always went with a
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: guy like Castillo if suddenly he gets I always love
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: the baseball terms for these things. In hockey, we have
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: upper body injuries. In baseball, they have arm fatigue feels
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: like an arm fatigue. Ten day injured list is screaming
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Castile's name just to kind of reset himself a little bit.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 14: I call it a Dodger vacation because the dog iss
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 14: do this all the time. And by the way, it's
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 14: fifteen pictures.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: It ten from a little while, that's right.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, full weeks.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 14: But you know, when you get Miller back, maybe this
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 14: is your opportunity to give me the quote Dodger vacation.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 14: It's a picture. Somebody else is going to get hurt
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 14: some point. I will say that the fact that Castillo
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 14: pretty much always take you know, he makes his thirty
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 14: one thirty two starts a year, I'm not going to
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 14: say that a guy doing that with a seven era
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 14: is necessarily helping you. Do you think there's some value
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 14: to say? I know, I can put him on the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 14: mount and get five innings out of there every starting.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 14: You mentioned Kate Anderson, but I don't think there's a
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 14: lot in between Kate Anderson and the next level Kate
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 14: he keeps saying. And I don't still think Anderson's gonna
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 14: make the majors this year. No, that'd be a very
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 14: rapid assent and there's just not a lot once you
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 14: get past you know, Hancock and Miller and Castillo, but
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 14: the next pier down is pretty ugly. So Castillo might
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 14: is not very good right now. I'm not sure he's
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 14: not the best fifth starter option for this team work.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 14: You know, sixth death and Miller comes back, and the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 14: fall off is pretty steell.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Cal Rawley's heating up five home runs his last seven games.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: The numbers are starting to come up. He's over two
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: hundred batting average, on base percentage two eighty eight four
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: nineteen slugging seven h seven ops. The power, we're starting
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: to see it again. He had an openhome run in
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: Seattle that to left field that never happens from I mean,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: it was crazy power. I think it's only the fourth
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: time he's done that in his career on kind of
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: a chilly night as well. So we're seeing it. Seven
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: home runs, seventeen rbs, andwer's just real quick.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: For Joe and me.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: What were his numbers after thirty games last year?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: I just did through April and March, which is about
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: where we are now. To thirty three batting average three
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: forty one on base five forty three slugging ten home
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: runs for a eight eighty four oh ps.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: So's he's down from last year by a lot, but
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: he's climbing up. Are we starting to see Cal become
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: cal again?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Joe? Yes, If you.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 14: Define Cal as the guy he was before twenty twenty five,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 14: he was never going to hit sixty home runs again,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 14: he was never going to have that kind of year again.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 14: But never before that. He was a very good, very
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 14: underrated certainly by me players hitting thirty homers in the year,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 14: playing good defense. You know, he's he's a two twenty
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 14: two thirty here. That's who he is. That's who he's
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 14: been so that I think you're going to have to expect.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 14: But the walks are going to be there. I think
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 14: by the end of the year, the power and the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 14: isolated power will be there. You just have to manage
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 14: expectations off of last year. Last year is not the
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 14: year that base you're expecting expectations to cal rally on.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 14: Just go back to twenty two to twenty four, and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 14: I think that's his base life for twenty six.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let me quickly say what his twenty twenty four
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: first month looked like. It's kind of similar to what
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: it's shaping up to be now six home runs two,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: twenty seven, batting average three ten on base four thirty
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: four slugging for a seven forty two of ps.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: So he's he's down from that as well, slightly though,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: he's Yes, it's it's what Joe just said. It's it's
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: more comparable to where he is right now. He's on
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: pace for about thirty seven home runs yeah this season,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: And yeah, you're right. I mean, what happened last year
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: was so out of the bucks. The other thing Joe
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: that I guess is, I don't know, I say concerning
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: they needed all of those from him to be a
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: playoff team last year. Now the AL West isn't very good,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: they should still they can get a thirty five home
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: run season out of Cal to help the offense all season.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Nailer's heating up. Maybe you get Josh Naylor looks like
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: a little bit better player like going on. So I
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: to say they need I guess what they had last
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: year from Cal would be probably erroneous, But they do
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: need him to be the middle of the lineup.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 14: They're getting a lot more from the rest of the
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 14: lineup as well. I mean, they eventually traded for Naylor
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 14: and Swars last year, but off too going start this year,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 14: Domina camp Jones off toobrin start. I want to say
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 14: Roserina's numbers are better than they were a year ago.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 14: I'm a big, cold young guy, and you know, when
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 14: you've got a guy who's getting on base of that clip,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 14: that's fine. So this is a much deeper lineup than
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 14: it's been a nine years, which takes the pressure off
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 14: Rally and Naylor and Rodriguez. Not to say that you
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 14: don't need those guys, but the fact that this team
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 14: has hung around five hundreds and the three of those
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 14: guys playing as poorly as they hitting as poorly as
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 14: they have Anyway, I think he looked bad as a
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 14: positive because you would expect those three guys to address
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 14: to their.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 15: To their views.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm castile, doesn't have a win to his name,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: and his eras north of six and a half. I mean,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: it's like, and those guys you just said offensively, and
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: you're still right there, probably a much better sign than
• 1:14:43
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  Speaker 1: The Senate tolerates a good word to use. Uh, Tolerating
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  Speaker 1: I was just asking just something else, OK, what'd you
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  Speaker 1: What he said?
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  Speaker 4: About Wilson, I complete agree. And it's something where there's
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: two parts to managing. There's the day to day one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and sixty two game season, which I actually think
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: Dan Wilson's very good at. It's you know, managing personalities
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• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: play for this guy. But then there's the end game
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: decisions that this is the questionable part, and that rears
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  Speaker 4: its ugly head in the playoffs the most. So that's
• 1:16:19
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  Speaker 1: guys like it just is like we can keep bearing
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: our heads in the sand, but it's just not there.
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  Speaker 1: I think what Joe said, you know, a guy like that,
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  Speaker 1: aging player, velocity down, strikeout rates down, all those things
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  Speaker 1: you know I mentioned. Luke Ark has kind of pointed
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  Speaker 1: that stuff out. It's it's we get to that point
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: we're like, okay, you know, where are we with this guy?
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  Speaker 1: And you've got you've got options.
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  Speaker 4: What do you call it?
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: The Dodger vacation? Yeah, that fifteen day injured list for
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  Speaker 1: the picture.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll say he did have five starts just like
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  Speaker 4: these last five starts that haven't looked good. The only
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  Speaker 4: time where it's been this bad is in twenty twenty one,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: the year before he came to the Mariners, and then
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: his era, and that was from the beginning of the
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: season to May twenty ninth, and then from there on
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: it was two point seventy six so he has had
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: stretches like this before and he's you know, like right
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  Speaker 4: of the way, so to speak.
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  Speaker 1: So hopefully that's what ends up happening. But we'll end
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: up seeing the glass the glass half full? Is this
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: He's been bad?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: Until recently, Cal wasn't and I'm not like I think
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: the best way to And you mentioned this as well.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: I know you guys have talked about this on postcasts
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: and other things. We're talking about, like Cal twenty twenty
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: five isn't the isn't the bar? Cal twenty twenty four is.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: But Cal started looking like normal Cal. We'll just call
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: it that. Naylor is definitely heating up. There's no doubt
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: about that. Cole Young's just been a revelation. Like it's
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: we talked about him yesterday Omuliwap segment. If you want
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: to go back and listen to podcast, I like, you
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: can't help but love this dude.
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  Speaker 12: Man.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: The compete level is massively off the charts. Plays hard,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't like. The arm strength isn't there. That's why he's
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: a second baseman.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: I don't need I don't need him pulling a Dave
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• 1:18:21
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  Speaker 1: turning double plays can be a challenge when you got
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  Speaker 1: to do the pivot. But like his ability to get
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  Speaker 1: on base, he hits the ball hard, he barrels it up.
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  Speaker 1: You just you gotta love Cole. You found your second basement.
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  Speaker 2: You can't and.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Won't ever have an all start every position. What you
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: do need if you're going to be a contender in
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  Speaker 1: any sport is you need good players at every position.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Not necessarily all stars are Hall of famers, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I Seahawks have got to get a you know,
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  Speaker 1: an all pro a right guard back in the day
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  Speaker 1: when Carpenter was playing there, right or whatever. I'm like, no,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: you just need adequacy sometimes because you've got such high
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  Speaker 1: end players everywhere. Sex right now are currently a good chance,
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  Speaker 1: good good example of that. They've got really good players
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  Speaker 1: has been just an absolute stud for them so far
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  Speaker 1: this season, helping them. They're taking on Minnesota tonight again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does.
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  Speaker 4: Played yesterday, be completely honest.
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  Speaker 2: Should point out.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just take a quick peek at something here, Andrews,
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  Speaker 1: that confirm, because I've heard a lot and I get out.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard a lot about how it's a it could
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  Speaker 1: oiler's one. But yeah, but Edmonton only finished with one
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  Speaker 1: They've been to the finals. They've been in the finals
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  Speaker 1: like a true Canadian. I like to see a seven
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• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: getting some closeouts already, so don't need that wild and
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• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: we're back. I want to see which game they're doing tonight.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: I think they might be doing ducks. Were gonna get
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  Speaker 1: him on soon. By the way, next week, I think
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: we might even I was gonna do something with him
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  Speaker 1: Friday I hitd of the Kentucky Derby.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: We got all of a sudden, our week has filled
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  Speaker 1: up a little bit, So right, is it.
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  Speaker 2: Not, Jess, We're pretty good. We're pretty fad stuff coming up.
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  Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, we've got Palos Hello, tomorrow, We've got
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  Speaker 5: Around draft so Stevens tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: The answer is yes, we will get him on. Trust me,
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  Speaker 1: he's chopping at the bits. I need to get on
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  Speaker 4: I love ed I want to have him on this.
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  Speaker 9: Want them on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's fine, he's something, all right, let's get
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  Speaker 1: will come out tomorrow in the City of Kirkland, uh kracking,
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  Speaker 1: City of Kirkland. They're going to talk about a new
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  Speaker 1: They're having a news conference with Samantha Holloway, Cracking owner,
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  Speaker 1: Governor Bob Ferguson, and the Mayor of Kirkland, Kelly Curtis.
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  Speaker 1: Can't wait for Bob Ferguson to take Bob Ferguson is
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  Speaker 1: going to take credit for than the Kraken are doing
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  Speaker 1: and investing in.
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  Speaker 2: That, and mayors do, that's what they do. What they do,
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  Speaker 2: that's what they do. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it'll be something along the lines of a
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  Speaker 1: one of the things. And listen, I get this. I
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  Speaker 1: hear this all the time when Todd talks. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of times it's hey, look at Memorial Stadium and Casey
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  Speaker 1: I and thinks we're so excited about what we're doing
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  Speaker 1: that's great. I want to see the hockey team do all.
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  Speaker 2: I get that.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that, and nobody wants to see that's listening
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  Speaker 1: or I'm speaking to you right now. I want to
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  Speaker 1: see the hockey team do well more than me.
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  Speaker 2: Trust me.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes your job a lot more fun, a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot more fun. But what they have done in the
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  Speaker 1: damn cool. And it was so we just started Dwight
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  Speaker 1: mid eighties to when you played there twenty five years later. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: think about that. It needed to be changed. And our
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  Speaker 1: our Seattle City schools, they need a better place to play.
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  Speaker 1: Good for them, I think what they're gonna do. And
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  Speaker 1: every every ice rink in their area is packed all
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not even exaggerating.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So whatever they're doing on the East SID, they're going
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  Speaker 1: We're expecting to hear from John.
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  Speaker 5: Lent, expecting to hey, listen, he's been messing with me.
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  Speaker 1: so oh nice, all right, okay, headlines. Mariners lose yesterday
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  Speaker 1: eleven to four to Minnesota. Game two tonight, Logan Gilbert
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  Speaker 1: is on the mound for Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably a good thing.
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  Speaker 4: Andrews, right, we'll see he pitches like last time.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not, but well that's true. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: He's coming off a bad game. Yes, lovely. Okay, they
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  Speaker 1: Philly's fired manager Rob Thompson nine to nineteen.
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  Speaker 15: Good for him.
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  Speaker 1: NBA playoffs tonight, lot's going on Celtics. They can close out, right,
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  Speaker 1: is that right? Yes, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get the value. Let's get the guy who
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  Speaker 1: that series three games to one. Hawks Knicks are tied
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  Speaker 1: a Sars in a while.
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  Speaker 5: They're two games a.
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  Speaker 3: stress in our lives like much.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, much like he does to you.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought, all right, No, I do I know
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: I create you just like he.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: Does to you.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: So you know, I said, don't bleep up my streak
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: of making you all time. Talk to you at two
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: He wrote back, no chance, this is earlier today. I said, bro,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: and he said two thirty ish maybe two forty five.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: I said, talk to you two o five, And then
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: I just texted him that we're calling.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: He answer the text, No, okay, Andrews, give me your
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: two things.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: Hey for analyst's choice, as you like to say, good
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: or bad thing?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 15: First?
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: Bad? Bad?
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: Okay, it looks like the Vancouver white Caps might be
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: moving to Las Vegas.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate that. Okay, good, we talk. I'll get
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: to that in a second.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because there's a whole club statement that I want
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: to mention. Okay, good thing. It's probably good for two
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: of us, not for one of us. The Jets hosted
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: Russell Wilson for a visit and are considering him as
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: an option to be the backup to wait for it,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: Smith, Guys, what did I do in a past life?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: I cannot scream out in a.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 5: Past life for this to happen to my team.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Just that is the most Jets thing ever. You're bringing
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: Geno back. First of all, you're bringing Geno back. That's
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: number one, number one, so you've already done that. Yeah,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: and you're hosting a visit with Russ to his backup,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: recently seen looking bigger than me in a Savannah banana's uniform. Oh,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better, does not get any better.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: The NFL, the NFL needs this, The NFL wants this.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: They demand this to happen.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: To New York's going to hair him up.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, he'll just be the backup to Gino. They
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: both tell j York he'll he'll be the backup to
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: Gino until Gino sucks and then it's gonna be like, okay,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: let's go to Ross.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: Oh I love cook.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: Let Russ cook.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: All right, real quick before we get to Lund, hopefully.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: You talk about the Vancouver thing.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: We like call johnn Okay, the Vancouver Yeah, the Vancouver
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: White Cops are are and we'll get to meet the
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: statement later, but they are.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 15: Is it?
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: Is it done?
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: The other moving not yet, but it does give me
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: give me a syn options of the statement real fast.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: All comment on say.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: They're looking for someone to buy the team. They've had
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: conversations with people over the past sixteen months, but and
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: no viable offer has emerged keep the club here.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: They want to, they need to.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: They have a stadium issue and I'll call on they
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: have a stadium issue with BC Place and leases up
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: and all that can't make the revenue streams.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: I listen, I know everybody hears a soccer fan. The
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: Sounders are our most successful franchise in this city. And
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: it isn't close like they just it's crazy how what
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: they've done. But one of the coolest things about soccer
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: in our in our area, going back to the seventies
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: of the old North American Soccer League, were the rivalries
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: with the Portland Timbers, the Sales Sounders and the Vancouver
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: white Caps, and the Vancouver move and leaves.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: It's a crime.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: It's also an incredible socket soccer market. It goes to
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: the world we live in now. Nobody doesn't matter if
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: it's on this side of the border or north of
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: the border. Nobody wants to build a building, Nobody wants
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: to spend that kind of money. And in terms of government,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: they don't want to subsisize.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: Talk about the Blazers, and the.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: Same thing with the Blazers right now, nobody wants to
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: subsidize it, but the white Caps moving to the States
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: would be an absolute crime. And I just god, I
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: hate I hate hearing stuff like that, and it hits
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: home all too often with us as well. All Right,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: he is here, Let's go Welcome to Ian's weekly visit
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: with John Lund Unleashed. He's a Bay Area media icon
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: who's known Ian for over twenty five years. But don't
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: let their age change your opinion of them. John takes
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: you through the Bay Area and the NFC West and
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: dupes it out with Ian over the.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: Niners and the Hawks.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: So let's unleash it now with John Lund.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: Here's Ian.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: I think you were just kind of messing around to
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: mess with Jess, weren't you. That's why you answered the
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: first time we called you. And I'm all here for it.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 11: By the way she called it one fifty nine, I mean,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 11: I'm sure as hell not picking up one.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not shoe.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 15: I mean, I'm not going.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be reliable before two o'clock.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 15: You know.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 11: One after I see it, I saw it, I store,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 11: I stared at it.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 15: I go, it's one fifty nine, I thought to it.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 15: I go, there's no way, Like I'm not doing that.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: Just get Hey, she's busy in here right now. She's
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: doing her hair. She's got a mc an event tonight,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: so she's just she's just doing her thing right now,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: doing the hair out.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: I'm a multitasker by nature, John Want Managing you is
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: one of those tests.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 16: What do you?
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 15: What do you? What are you MCing tonight?
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 12: Uh.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: There's a charity called Community Carrot. It's an organization that
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: educates kids while they're going through juvenile detention, and they
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: educate them so that they can have a solid plan
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: when they go when they get out. There are several
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: different business owners that have come out of that organization,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: and I like to donate my time to organizations such
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: as that.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: So if you're watching a you tu you're watching on YouTube,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: you can see just doing her hair right now as
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: we speak. She's got the curling iron out and the.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: Bottom of it is done.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: You can go check that out.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: That's to go get all these talkbacks, all.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: Right, we got talk back.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 15: If it was juvenile detention, I should have been I
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 15: should have been the MC of.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: That and I would have done my hair in a
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: lot last time.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: That's like that's like bringing the inmates back to talk
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: to the inmates, right, you know an next conra inmate.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: Remember that scared straight? Yeah, it was fantastic stuff.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 12: That was.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you were like, I am never going to prison.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, yeah, tolf of the list of places
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 11: So you you were talking about the Vancouver white Caps.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 11: So I do this segment on my National show on
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 11: the weekends and I said we should be talking about
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 11: blank and people call up and it's just totally random stuff, right,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 11: And I got chat and I got to tell you
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 11: the truth. I got chat GVG sitting there just like
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 11: right there at the bring something up and I'll just
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 11: hurry up and like type it in like and I
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 11: act like I'm an expert. And so a guy called up,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 11: and I had no idea that the white Caps of
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 11: Vancouver were potentially moving. He was from Vancouver, so I
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 11: thought he's gonna talk hockey or something. He goes off
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 11: on like the Vancouver white Caps. And as he's talking,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 11: I'm sitting there trying to you know, chat GPT. You
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 11: think that's what's going on there? And then of course
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 11: I popped to him, Hey man, my yeah, my heart
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 11: is out to you man, and guy loved.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: Me because he's like God, no one knows that stuff.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: But it's like I do. I'm with you, brother, Yeah,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. A good job.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: Well it's but it's like, hey, listen, it's the it's
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: the standard thing. Need a new building, Nobody wants to
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: build it, right, it doesn't matter if it's it doesn't matter.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: That has right.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 11: Let's stop doing that.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at all the money.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 11: I mean, I'm preaching the choir here, but my god,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 11: these teams are making so much money across the board. Now,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 11: obviously soccer is not doing what these major sports are doing.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 11: But god, when these guys are sitting here asking for
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 11: money like this new cheap owner the Blazers who like what,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 11: guys aren't going on the road, Guys who are injured
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 11: aren't going on the road. That's gonna be a lot
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 11: of fun that Blazers team. My god, that thing will
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 11: be out of Portland in no time. Which has a
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 11: cheap ass, Well, well.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: It's funny you bring that up. I think Andrews is
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: going to find a little clip we had. We had
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: your friend and my friend, the godfather, Dwight James was
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: on earlier with us today. I love the god just
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: curmudgeon like, just like Jia. It hasn't changed and it's
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: just and you know what it makes for glorious radio,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: Like it just really yeah, you just said something. You
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: just you just said something. This is this is Dwight
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: and what was this hour and a half ago? Take
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: a listen.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 9: Seattle makes a lot of sense to move to Portland.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 9: I think when Dundon made his power play, that was
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 9: his backup plan is to go to Seattle and he
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 9: could just hitch up a you all trailer and move
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 9: everything up there. They've got like three years left on
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 9: the existing lease. I think it's to twenty thirty, and
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 9: then anything after.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: That is up in the air.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: You know what when Clayton be bout the Sonics three
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: years left on the lease, jeez, now we don't want that.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: We don't want that here, We do not want I
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: can speak.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 11: For everybody, you know how it feels you don't want
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 11: to do that. The hell was Sacramento. I mean, I
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 11: was stolen Sacramento's.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 15: Team in a minute. But I mean, you guys, you
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 15: know your kindred spirits up there.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: I get the whole thing. But here's the problem.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: Here's the thing.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 15: There's there's like obviously.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 11: You guys have already talked about this, but there's a
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 11: huge difference to what Clay Bennett did. And if this
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 11: guy just you know, if if they're not if they're
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 11: gonna run this thing into the ground, I think it
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 11: might be different. But uh, I think, look, I think
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 11: you guys have talked about it. I I think Seattle
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 11: in Vegas deserve their own teams. I think that the
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 11: Sonics that they don't want to be still on a team.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 11: You deserve your own team. You guys have waited way
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 11: too long and and Lebron is gonna be part of
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 11: that Vegas team. And look, the league can handle it.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 11: I know there's lots of problems with the league right now.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 11: It is tough to watch you guys. I think you're
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 11: really lucky, to be honest with you, that you don't
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 11: have a team.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: It's so brutal.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 11: I mean what I know this is a bad word
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 11: in this town. It's profanity, But okay, Laoma City and
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 11: Shake Guild is Alexander or a joke.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: I mean the way that the game is being called,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: they got to change it.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 11: YEA and I hope they do before you get basketball
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 11: back in Seattle because the product, honestly, I know you
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 11: want it back, and you should want it back.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: And you should get it back. But the product stinks.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, just it's never been worse.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: You're selling me that one guy shooting thirty five free
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: throws a game isn't good basketball, really weird.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 11: And he's not even a good actor, Like he's like
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 11: a porn actor. Like he's just terrible, like.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 15: Venus is guy just got knocked out, was like this
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 15: guy just he runs.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: Into you, throws the ball up.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 15: It's just like, what are we doing here?
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: They got to fix it because all the.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 15: Game is is three pointers and free throws.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 11: It's like baseball, strikeout, walk or there's three things that
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 11: gonna happen in baseball, right, strike out, walker.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: Home run. It's the same in basketball.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 11: You're either shooting three or shooting a free throw. And
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 11: if your shake Guilds is Alexander, you just pre throw,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 11: pre throw, free throw, free throw. It stops the game.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 11: And they're not even close calls, like they're not even
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 11: he's not even a good actor.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: No, no, John lonn joining us. Let's let's get to
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Which team you want to Let's start with
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: the Rams just for giggles. Then we'll get to our
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: two teams. Okay, let's start with the Ram I'm glad
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: you started there, Ty Simpson. We all know Max Clary
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: tight end out Ohio State.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: Kegan. I think it's trust.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: At least I know a guy named Trost Keegan Tross
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: offense tackle from Missouri, CJ. Daniels, wide receiver from Miami
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: in the sixth round, and Tim Keenan, a de tackle
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: in Alabama. So they only end up with five picks
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: for a team that frankly was one play away, two
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: plays away from not just going but probably winning the
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Now, they did add Watson and McDuffie the
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: two corners in the offseason, Yes, but what was the
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: reaction for your world of forty nine or faithful when
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Ty Simpson, for a team that could have taken Sadiq
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: the tight end and that McVeigh offense or Ruben Bain
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: junior instead they take a developmental quarterback.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 11: On that reaction, I think that I that I speak
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 11: for the entire division and I'm fine with it, is
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 11: that when everybody else likes your pick versus what you
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 11: could have had, and you could add with Kayle Lemon
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 11: in there too, with you know what's going on with
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 11: DeVante Adams going to his last year.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: That you've played to win the game.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 11: You're playing to win championships. You're not playing to win
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 11: ten games, eleven games, twelve games in.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: Two turnstiles, moving the.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 11: La rams of Seattle Seahawks and San Francisco forty nine
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 11: ers are winning, trying to win championships, and when you're
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 11: in a window, that's what you have to do. I
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 11: don't buy for a second because I've talked to friends
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 11: down there that know McVeigh and he's a lot like Shanahan.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: They're not good liars. I've told her this before. Kyle
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: Shanahan told me the first day he was hired.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 11: Look, I'm not a good liar, and so John John
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 11: Lynch is the good cop and Kyle's the bad cop
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 11: because he can't be the good cop.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: He's a terrible liar.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 11: And so Sean McVay, I don't buy for a second
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 11: that he thought he was gonna get Tysons. And even
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 11: if he had a secret meeting all that kind of stuff,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 11: there's a difference. And you know, this better than anybody
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 11: in every single sport. The general manager has a long
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 11: term view and the head coach has a short term view.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 11: The head coach wants to win this year, the GM
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 11: has to think about years ahead. I get it, but
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 11: there's a reason also that Matthew Stafford didn't contact this
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 11: kid and his wife texted it.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: Texted the kid and.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 15: The reason why he is think about it.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 11: Matthew Stafford sitting there, he just wont an MVP and
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 11: he's thirty eight. I ain't what am I gonna do
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 11: t tech kid to.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: Steal my job?
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm gonna do to to help with that.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 11: So his wife Kelly goes, oh, I'm gonna text him. Oh,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 11: go ahead, you text him then, and she did. He's
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 11: not going to text him so that he could steal
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 11: his job.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: He just won the MVP. He's not as.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 11: Transparent as Aaron Rodgers when they took Jordan Love. But
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 11: it's the same thing. The players on the team are pissed.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 11: The rest of the division loves it. We don't even
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 11: know if ty.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: Simpson can play.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 11: And you could tell in that press conference that Sean
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 11: McVay was done too happy because like you said, he
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 11: could have had some deck, He could have had m
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 11: ky Lemon, he could have had Ruben Bain, he could
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 11: have had a player that the rest of us in
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 11: the division would be going. Damn.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 15: The Rams just got that much better.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 11: And remember McDuffie was basically the twenty ninth pick in
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 11: the first round, because that's what they gave up, So
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 11: they would have had mcduffy and another guy that they
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 11: could contribute. Long even if you're a yeah, even if
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 11: you're a huge Seahawks fan, you'd be tough to say
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 11: that the Rams hadn't passed him at that point. I
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 11: think they did the Seahawks and the Niners a massive favor,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 11: just a huge favor.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: They take a tight end and a lot of people didn't,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: you know, think was a Day two pick, maybe even
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: borderline Day three pick as well. So yeah, and after
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: that it didn't really matter. Okay, let's uh. And by
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: the way, we're just gonna go ahead and ignore Arizona, Okay,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: like we did this stink. Yeah, I mean, Jeremiah Love
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: congratulate a third overall.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: Good lie.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: I like the guy, but you can't take a guy
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 4: you just can't take.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: A run back third. Like what Seattle did was smart.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 11: Although I wonder if and I'm sure you guys have
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 11: discussed that, I do wonder if John Schneider had to
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 11: do again over again, if you would just take Walker
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 11: or just sign Walker the number, because then you don't
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 11: have to use that pick, then you probably are able
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 11: to trade back.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: You know, well they tried trading. They got, they got.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: They all get to them in a second. That was
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: a weird.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Day one draft post. All right, and you were there, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. Deshaun Stribbling courtesy of Washington State, Oklahoma State,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: and Mississippi.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: If you like receivers at rop balls, he's perfect, then
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: an edge out of Texas text Romelo Heights. I like
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: the Black pick, Kaylon Black. I like that pick in
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: the third round. And then after that, Carver Willis is
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: a tackle from Washington. He got him in the fourth round.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: Here I also got pre socked the cornerback from Washington.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Apparently a lot of Husky love here. What's the reaction?
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: What do you think of the forty nine Ers draft?
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 12: Terrible?
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: I mean I think it's terrible. They've had trouble with receivers.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 15: I mean, look at Brandon An.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 11: I don't know what's going on with Jawan Jennings and
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 11: all those kind of they want too much money and
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 11: you know, but Kyle has really struggled with getting wide receivers.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 11: I mean, Ricky Piersall has been terrible as far as
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 11: the injuries and everything. And as much as I respect Kyle,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 11: he definitely has final say in what they do.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: And I get it.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 11: Strimbling is a good blocking wide receiver. He's big at
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 11: about six two two ten, but like you said, and
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 11: he runs the four three six.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: I get it. But the problem with it is is, look, they.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 15: Had a good offseason and they got Mike Evans and
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 15: they traded for.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 11: The d tackle from the Cowboys, and they just kind
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 11: of like the Rams. They had a really good off season.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: They really have really bad draft.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 11: And if you look at the statistics over the last
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 11: five years, the forty nine Ers draft, it's thirty first
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 11: in the league over the last five years. Like they
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 11: just they take guys, and I get it, man, everybody
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 11: looks at the the board that you know, all the
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 11: so called experts put together, but the forty nine Ers,
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 11: as far as reaches are concerned, are number one with
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 11: a bullet, I mean more than anybody as far as
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 11: reach number versus where.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 15: A guy was supposed to go and when you talk
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 15: to him in the press conference, and I was, I
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 15: was on the phone on the press conference with it.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: They're just defying about it. And they were act point
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: blank like you know, you guys.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 4: Reach who asked the question?
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: He just snapped on it.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: It was perfect. Yeah, Well they.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 15: Hate that guy anyway, and that one was fair. A
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 15: lot of times he isn't, but on that one he was.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 11: And he was just asking and point blank like you
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 11: guys have a lot of reaches. I mean, why is
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 11: your philosophy different than other teams? And look, the Seahawks
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 11: have been in that same boat too, you know where
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 11: lots of teams didn't believe in what they were doing.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 11: But what people don't understand to defend the Niners and
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 11: the Seahawks too, is that people look at when they
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 11: look at these mock drafts, they look at the quality
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 11: of the.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 15: Player, but they don't look at the fit.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 11: And there's two things. There's the player and then there's
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 11: the fit. And the Seahawks get it. The Seahawks are
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 11: really good at fit. The Niners in the past have
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 11: been good at fit, you know, when Belichick was around.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 11: The Patriots are good at fit. It's player and fit.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 15: But when these guys do mock drafts, they just think, Okay,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 15: they need a receiver, this is the best receiver.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 11: They need an offensive lineman, this is the best offensive lineman.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 11: It doesn't work that way.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: So we'll see.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 15: But just on the surface, given what John Lynch.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 11: Has done recently, which is nothing in the draft, terribly
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 11: in the draft, and then this year as well, we're stribbling.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 11: The kid out of Old Miss is a big question
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 11: mark height. Like you said, he's way undersize and that's
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 11: not really what they do, and he's not a linebacker.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 15: Really their best pick. They had a defensive lineman out
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 15: of a defensive tackle out of Oklahoma, and they really
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 15: need help in the front.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: That was probably the best thing they did.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 11: But you and I last week when we talked about
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 11: this very thing they need. They need offensive lineman. They
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 11: need to be able to punch in the face and
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 11: run the football. Like you said, they got a kid
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 11: out of Washington, but he's not gonna be the replacement
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 11: for for Trent Williams long term.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 15: No, don't, I don't get what they're doing. It just
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 15: doesn't seem to make anything.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: It's funny, John So John Schneider said something else was
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: interesting on Friday, I think it was Friday, and he
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: said he was asked about you know what they've learned, Hugh,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: Actually I wrote a Hume mill and asked the question
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: about being on the same page with Mike McDonald, different
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: coaching staff compared to Pete and everything else. And he says,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: Sander said, I've learned from my mistakes. Because I learned,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: we've learned from what we've done wrong. He's basically got
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: the same guys in place as lieutenants, for lack of
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: a better term, the assistant GM's head scout Matt Berry,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: Guys like that, Nolan and others like because I learned
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: from my mistakes. And I kind of as you're talking
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: about the forty nine ers, literally, I'm thinking the same thing.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, like, they were defiant, We're gonna take Malik McDowell,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: Christian Michael or Sean Page. They were defined about those picks.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: And Schneider's like, no, man, you now lookal they've done
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: the last few drafts they've I don't want to say
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: it's chock. But they've when you look at the picks,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: every one of them makes sense. I forget I do
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: forget about Mike Evans going to Fanrancisco. That's a big
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: addition of the offseason. That's a massive addition for you guys.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 15: Which made it so that they didn't have to reach.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 11: And I guess that was what was show shocking, is
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 11: that because they had traded back for a.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: Couple of times, they had the.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 15: First pick in the second round.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: For those who don't know, and again I don't care.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: You know, you've got your fit.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 15: I understand that.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 11: I understand why they drafted him because he's a physical, big,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 11: fast blocking receiver.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: They just lost that.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 11: Kind of a guy with an edge and Juwan Jennings
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 11: that's what they're trying to replace. I get all that,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 11: but it just seemed like, like you said, he's got
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 11: drop problems, there's issues there.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 15: They just haven't really been able to pinpoint that position
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 15: very well. And it's kind of what you just said,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 15: like our way is the best way, and.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: They kind of define it.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 11: But again, Kyle Shanahana has final say that in those matters,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 11: and that's.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: Who Kyle is.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 11: Kyle is definitely one of those guys that's like, oh,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 11: you don't think my way works, and that's not a
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 11: great way to draft.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks took Jadarian Price in the first round, thirty
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: second pick. They tried to move down by the way,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: and they they said that after the first round, we
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: tried to move out.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: The road was weird.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I think San Francisco really kind of Probably the
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: one thing San Francisco accomplished is by trading down twice.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: I think they took that ability away from Seattle like
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: they were a little despondent. They liked the player, they
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: didn't like where they took the player. I think it's
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: safe to say Bud Clark, a safety out of TCU,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: Julian Neal, a corner out of Arkansas, was full of
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: all kinds of talk fits well into the mode of
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: Witherspoon and going way back Sherman, those guys, big guard
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: out of Iowa, whether they thought was going to go
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: way earlier. They traded up to get him in the
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: fifth round. I say traded up. They traded a fourth
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: round pick to get into the fifth round to get him.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: That's what they thought of him. And then a bunch
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: of other dudes that are probably borderline to make the team.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: But what do you think of Seattle's a roster or draft.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: I love Bud Clark.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 11: I mean, I'm sure I'm echoing a lot of people,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 11: but I love Bud Clark. And not a lot of
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 11: people were talking. I mean, I know you were locally
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 11: but nationally about losing Kobe Bryant, who had just gotten
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 11: so much better. And I know how he had come
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 11: there as a corner and went to a safety and
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 11: he was huge. And I understand how Seattle runs that
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 11: defense and you have to have a center fielder who
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 11: can sideline to sideline, maybe not like an earl Thomas,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 11: but still they can do that and then be able
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 11: to free up guys. And so I thought that was
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 11: a critical need for Seattle, and here they grabbed it.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 11: You know, could they have used edge, could they have
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 11: us you know, there's other things.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But people other.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 11: Than you and your listeners are very smart too, as
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 11: Seahawks fans know that that's a huge position in that defense.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: For Mike McDonald.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 11: So for him to do that, which allows then em
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 11: and Worry to be able to you know, roam a
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 11: little bit more so he can I think it's huge
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 11: and you got the biggest playmaking safety in the you know,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 11: in the draft. And again, all these draft knicks will
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 11: sit there and say, he's only one hundred and eighty
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 11: eight pounds and he's only this, he's only that. It
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 11: wasn't like Kobe Bryant was this huge guy. It's what
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 11: you ask your players to do. So again, this is
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 11: where I think the draft guys get it wrong. They
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 11: think that every safety has to be six two and
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 11: two twenty, not the way that Seattle uses that free
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 11: safety there. So it's you know, you got to understand fit,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 11: and Clark fits. And I always think this at the
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 11: pro level too, that if that, if you make plays,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 11: and this is where I struggle with guys who don't
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 11: don't do it at the college level. If you don't
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 11: do at the college level, what makes you think you're
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 11: gonna do at the NFL level. And Clark did it
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 11: at the college level, so that would be that would
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 11: be my thing as far as price, Let me ask
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 11: you a question, because this is just my general philosophy
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 11: that I have and I like the kid, I really do,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 11: but I hate relying on rookies, Like if rookies and
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 11: this isn't any sport if a rookie comes through other
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 11: than like in the NBA, you know, you're like your
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 11: top five guys. What I'm talking about baseball and football
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 11: in particular, where you pencil someone in and what you're
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 11: supposed to do is you're supposed to think, well.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: If they give us decent production, we'll be happy and
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: then they'll get.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 15: Better and better better.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 11: Where I look at Seattle because they need that running
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 11: game because early in the season last year they ran
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 11: it a lot. They just been running effectively, and once
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 11: they started to really get it going, that's when it
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 11: opened up Dartle and that's when the Seahawks were really dangerous.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 11: It's not that I don't think Price can do it,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 11: but he is going to be counted on now from
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 11: day one to do that, and it's that's just a
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 11: lot of burden to put on a rookie.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: I would I would counter John lynch wise with this
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: before we know, and that is they had two rookies
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: that probably put him over the top last year, Nicki
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: min Worri and Grey's Abel to Guard Like, those two
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: guys are game changers, absolute game changers and changed the
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: whole Dime Grey's Abel was the left guard they've been
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: looking for for fifteen years. And even Worri, we just
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: talk about safeties. I mean, he's a Sam linebacker's masquerading
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: as a safety. And what held that mad scientist Mike
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: McDonald's able to use him?
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: He was a game changer.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: In fact, that's why people freaked out when he was
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: hurt going into the Super Bowl. Remember he got hurt
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: on the Thursday. Yeah, he was questionable and that would
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: have been a massive get because he Seahawk defense with
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: Emon Worri and without him, two different defenses.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 4: So all right, what do you doing real quick?
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 15: If he doesn't If he doesn't come through and he's
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 15: not great, you guys are gonna have a lot of
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 15: conversations about why Ken Walker. And look, I like the kid,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 15: I really do like the kid. It's just when you
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 15: have to do that.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 11: And you gave two great examples of last you know,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 11: for the guys, for the Seahawks, which is why they
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 11: won the Super Bowl. But and and look, running back
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 11: he's come in a lot of times. It's not one
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 11: of those positions or it takes time.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 15: If you running back is a quick uh you know
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 15: way from the college to the NFL that you can
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 15: do that quickly, you can make that transition.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 11: But like I said, I just as a general rule,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 11: you don't really want to rely on rookies.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 15: If they whatever they give you, it's generally a bonus.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: I think this kid could do that. Man, it's he is.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: He has counted on big time or else. What are
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: they gonna do? I mean without sharbonnay.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 15: Obviously for a while. What are they gonna do back there?
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 15: That's interesting to watch?
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: That's the key.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: Are you still on weekends on Westwood one, nine fifty
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: on the dollar there?
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 11: Look, they're putting me on Saturdays and Sundays. They're putting
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 11: me on every Monday now, and so yeah, it's uh,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 11: it's Roland, man, It's it's Roland. And I'm getting all
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 11: those calls from the from the Pacific Northwest, getting Vancouver calls,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 11: Seattle calls, to Komba calls. They're going to Bellevue this weekend,
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  Speaker 11: all right, crazy, all you.
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  Speaker 1: People go to Westwood one, kJ R am down nine
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  Speaker 17: and I'm thrilled at the prospect.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: Of getting next Maintent ten here.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 17: But I'll say this, if they pulled the Blazers out
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 17: of Portland, they did the same thing to Vancouver, and
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 17: they did the same thing to Seattle, they will have
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 17: turned their back on our region and told us what
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 17: they think of us. At that point, we need to
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 17: turn our backs on them, saying we don't want them
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 17: ever back in our region again, and not spend one
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 17: red pick.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 18: The NBA didn't leave just eighteen years ago for some
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 18: of us, they left before that. Remember, when the games
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 18: are blowed out from Bellingham to Bremerton. Now the Mariner's
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 18: kind of doing the same thing. The Sonics alienated me.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 18: I held the door open for them to leave, and
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 18: the game is trash now. I'm in no hurry for
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 18: them to come back. I don't even watch the NBA.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 18: The NBA didn't leave just eighteen years ago. For some
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 18: of us, they left before that.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to We'll get to a coup
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: more in a second. We got a whole bunch of
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: man we got this kind of telling Jess. We have
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: almost one hundred texts without a contest today, and I
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: can't get to them all. But I appreciate we've got
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: some sports confessions all together. That let's get a come
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: more talk backs and and we'll get to the text.
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  Speaker 2: Gay, guys, Mike here yesterday the boat. I was watching
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: a little film.
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  Speaker 14: Up and I watched Getting Up.
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  Speaker 2: He walked the first.
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  Speaker 6: Guy uh, and then what uh?
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: That's goway to the second level. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: do you guys think about?
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  Speaker 14: I like the guy, but it's uh.
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  Speaker 8: Ian after your Maya kopa at the start of the
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 8: one o'clock hour, Yes, about your feelings about Scott van Pelt.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, I suffer from a similar.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 8: Malady. Yes, I can't stand it whenever I see Adam Silver.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 8: But I've discovered that what I have is a disease.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 8: It's called bald White Guy syndrome BWGS. So don't worry.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 8: You can find a cure an.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: Type bald guy. I like it as far as both steams.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna join the show tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: His athleticism is not great. That's why he was a
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: fifth round pick. But he's a Maller and he and
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: not Dave Maller or Softy Maller. He's smaller, he's he fun.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: Got to talk to him, excited. He's going to join
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  Speaker 1: the show out by the way, right off the top tomorrow,
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: twelve o'col. We have a couple more when I get you, okay.
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  Speaker 13: And another thing, Yeah, I know my Blazers are gonna
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 13: get you know, a gentleman swept by san Antonio tonight, But.
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  Speaker 2: That just adds to my frustration.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 12: I like.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: I don't like Wemby.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 13: I don't like Gumby, the one that can't call the
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 13: alien that doesn't understand how gravity works here on Earth
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 13: and bounces his.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: Head off the floor twice.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 14: I don't like him.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 13: I don't like how they even got him. He shouldn't
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 13: have gone to san Antonio. San Antonio doesn't deserve a
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 13: good player like him. Daily listener here, Blazers fan. I
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 13: can't stand this new owner, Like, I don't understand why
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 13: he even was able to buy the team if he
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 13: didn't have the money he had to get all these
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 13: other people in pony up money.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: Jody should have just sold the team to God. I
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: don't even want to say his name because I hate him,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: Phil Knight. But what are we doing here? Like if
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: they move, I'm like they're hanging.
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  Speaker 18: Thank you for your friends, Ian and I agree too much,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 18: Scott Van help go Mariners.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: There you go, hey, Ian.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 12: Seattle sports guy here with another Seattle sports update. Luis
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 12: Castile continues his push to be the Savannah Banana starter
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 12: and join Russell Wilson on the team, as he gave
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 12: up a touchdown to.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: The Minnesota Twins.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 12: Also, Brandon Aubrey signed a seven million dollar deal, league
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 12: high for a kicker three million dollars more than the Huskies.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 12: Demon Williams the difference million dollars more than the Huskies
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 12: Demon Williams. The difference is Brandon Aubrey wants to be
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 12: on the Cowboys. Damon Williams holds press conferences to convince
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 12: us otherwise.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Text line four nine four or five one. Nobody cares
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: about the NBA overpaid guys who could care less about anything.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: I literally could care less, says Marcus. Won't watch, but
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: happy for the people that are happy than in the
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: middle of that. You're on crack. It's gonna be as
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: big a Super Bowl. Come on, man, be better. Just
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: look at the text of zillion, A lot of them
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: anti NBA.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: I still think it's gonna be huge when the announcement comes.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: I think we'll forget a lot of things at that point,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: as long as it's not Bretland's team.
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  Speaker 12: Uh.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: My confession is my sports hate can sometimes be stronger
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: than my fandom. I'll sometimes root against my team see
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: X Marors if it means that they're losing, will hurt
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: the teams.
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  Speaker 2: I hate fact.
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  Speaker 4: I root against the Oregon more than I do against
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 4: for anyone else in college football.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, that is interesting. What's stronger?
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Five?
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: Well, we're not super excited for the NBA to return
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: because the game has changed, weren't allowed to change with it.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: Most of us don't enjoy the product. There are still
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: pockets of people to go for an entertainment value, but
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: it won't have the same buzz as it once did.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: Interesting lifelong songs. Family who cares the NBA returns because
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: the NBA has changed with the twenty years to me,
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: myself and I versus a team first mentality. Yeah, there's
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: just a lot of anti NBA stuff on here. I'm
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: just going through it. I mean, I'm seeing all these
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: on again.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: We have it.
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  Speaker 5: The scar prevails.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes it's not even the scar though, Like I
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 4: don't know, maybe maybe this is maybe naive, but I
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 4: feel like, just as John Lunn was saying, he has
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 4: a team and he hates the product, right yeah.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the load management and everything.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 4: And just watching the games suck this one.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: NBA is nothing more than a half drank flat semi
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: warm beer. It's a league of unlikable prima Donna players.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: I'd rather run through a sticker bush naked with a
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: sunburn that supports this league.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 5: Wow, that is white the edicts there.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: Let's see, there's some Scott van Pelt agreements along there
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: along the way.
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  Speaker 4: If we get the trail Blazers, do we also get
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 4: the strip clubs, ask Keith.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, that was a good Yeah. The crop
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: adults and the dolphin too are all on their way up.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, I've been down there.
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  Speaker 2: They have it. I can concur there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that is beyond.
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  Speaker 1: Two five three. Totallygree on Scott van Pelt. He's annoying
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  Speaker 1: blank blank blank blank Okay, like like seven to one
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  Speaker 1: nine have been hitting on SVP since he first got
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: his show years ago. He's super corny. Uh, this is
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: the one that kind of got to me. I think
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: it's true four two five ESPN just four people these days.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: It's true.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: Well that's the thing SVP, stephen A, Jason, Kelcey and
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: Greeney they do everything and is too much.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 5: That was your point.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I yeah, I didn't uh what's his
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  Speaker 4: name that McAfee to that, and it's true, No.
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  Speaker 1: Two five three. I don't care either way about SVP.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: But my weird take is I love Colin Coward. That's
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: not a weird take. A lot of people love people
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: like him. Yeah, yeah, I do think it's interesting. He was,
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: like I said, I haven't seen I just seen the
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: trailer he was in the the jail Blazer thing, and
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: he was never once inside that locker room.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you said that when that came out.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a well known guy and he happened to
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 3: do radio there at one point.
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  Speaker 2: Two five three.
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  Speaker 4: Can't stand the NBA commissioner, Lord Voldemort.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, this is this is.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite one about SVP because this is again this
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: goes back to everyone has their own taste. Sure three
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  Speaker 1: six oh, Ian, you tend to not be my cup
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: of tea. However, however, you couldn't be more right about SVP.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: So I'm listening to you.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, ye yeah. Oh man.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: The last one that came in about his voice inflection
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: for the Masters, I'm reading it. I can't read it
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: out loud, but I thank you for that. All that's
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: softy say that word on the air? I, uh, do
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: you ever get positive text? I feel like all listeners
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: are grumpy old men rarely.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 5: I see a lot of shaking fists the clouds out here.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see, Uh, Jeremy, who is Clifford? And why
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: do we care what he thinks?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 2: And we don't.
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  Speaker 4: I'll answer for you. We don't know who he is,
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 4: and we don't.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: I also don't care about women's water polo that Sarah
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: Spain told me about that today, but that that took.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 5: Up Ashley Ryan.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: But Ashley's not competing anymore, I know. I'm yeah, And
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: she would tell you that's a little bit of a stretch. Yeah,
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: I think I had a little bit of stretch. Okay,
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: we're good. Yeah, we got zillion text I will we'll
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: try to do better about reading more texts and all that.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: You guys are great man. We appreciate that we.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 5: Have a lot of voice text that gets you.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot a lot of them. Okay, Softy joins
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  Speaker 2: us next already, then, ladies and gentlemen.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: So you know you've seen this story, right, you've seen
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: the story that the Jets are bringing Russell Wilson.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: This thing work? It is I can't, I know, shut
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: up on shut up. You know the song Hello, where'd
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: you get that hat from? Did you get him a hat? Hello? Stuff?
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 15: It?
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 4: Is really nice coming home?
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: Did you uh you saw that the Russell Wilson may
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: be Gino's backup in New York?
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 9: No?
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 2: I did not see that.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 16: I was too busy watching Russell take AB's for the
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 16: Savannah banantas. So he's he's gone. Look he's gone from that,
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 16: I tell you.
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 4: He looks fat.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I have no problem saying that because I'm a
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 16: former fat guy myself, as are you.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 4: By the way, he looks chubby.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 16: He looks like he needs to maybe go see my
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 16: boy Rocky over at thirty ten, which is now defunct
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 16: because of ozembic, but find a way to restart that
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 16: bad boy.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 4: So he he uh, he's chunky there, Russ, he is.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: He is in New York visiting the Jets, o god
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 1: to back up Gino Smith.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, please make that happen.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: Ian Roppaport tweets out, this makes all the sense in
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: the world. I'm like, yes, it does for different reason
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: than like you think it makes sense for a football standpoint.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: We think it makes sense for the theater. Our by
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: our guy Tied Dangenzalees from Lockedown Mariners right tweet of
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: the year. What do you say, Russell Wilson backing up
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: Gino Smith on the team that drafted Sam Darnold would
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: be cinema. Think about that jests you got rid of Sam,
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: and you got those two guys coming in.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 16: I'm afraid from my cousin Evan, who would probably walk
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 16: in the traffic if they signed Russell Wilson, Russ backing up.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 16: Gino's already up, He's already flipping out. Well, they're just
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 16: they're they're they're tanking for right. I mean, this is
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 16: just to absolutely get ready for arch Manning next year.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 4: Why would you even bother.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 16: Bringing Russ in though, because you're gonna suck anyway. Whoever,
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 16: I have some fun, have some fun, man, how about
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 16: Aaron Glenn? How about how about they get how about
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 16: Russell Wilson is is h on the field and Gino
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 16: Smith is in the tent like Jackson Dart was last
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 16: year and the other New York team in the same stadium.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 4: I think that was a home game for the Giants
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 4: and Aaron in the tent. Can you get your.
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 16: Ass out there so I can get this guy off
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 16: the field and it happens to him again with another
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 16: New York football team.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: Do you think, Oh my god, do you think Sierra
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: call the Jets and say, hey, can you talk to
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: my husbands? I want to be in New York account
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: I don't want to leave New York.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 4: Well, Colin Cowherd, man, he called that from the.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 16: Starting there No, Yeah, like five years ago he said
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 16: that Sierra Russell Wilson in New York City and everybody
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 16: slammed him for it. He was the last ye Well,
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 16: and again, who knows if that's why he went to
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 16: the Giants. It may have just been, you know, coincidence.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 16: But Cowhard said that literally four or five years ago
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 16: that Sierra wanted Hollywood to go to New York and
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 16: he ended up in New York.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: So there you go.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I love it. I but for
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 4: the New York media, I.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: Pray for a training camp.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: First day, we're watching this and there's Gino and there's
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: Ross and it's just like, see what that two thousand
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: and twenty twenty one was the last of your Russ
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: is here. We didn't get trade twenty one twenty one, Yeah,
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 1: was his last. Twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, they were they were.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 16: Here, they were good. In twenty they were twelve and four.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 16: Remember that was six and two to start off the
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 16: COVID year. Yeah, and playing great twenty one all night
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 16: and then got beat by the Rams and John Wafford
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 16: in the playoff game.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: In front of nobody. In fairness, John waffer only played
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: like one series, but he played. He was their quarterback.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: Once he got heard, I know that who was there?
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: Who was the guy that finished the game for the Rams?
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: That was Golf Golf with the broken thumb because he
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: came in. He came in when and like, yeah, because
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: what he came in with and he played with injured
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 16: Yeah, through about the home game the Ram playoff game
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 16: in front of nobody, John started for the Rams. I
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 16: think he got hurt and then Goff came in with
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 16: the broken thumb and we still lost because I was
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 16: working the game with a busted thumb. That wasn't even
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 16: supposed to play in the game anyway, because he had
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 16: a busted thump.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: Honest, there was Jared Goff. Jared Goff was nine for nineteen.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 16: Is that the game where Russell asked for Pete to
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 16: be fired when the game was over afterwards?
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Russ was. Russ lit it up that day. He
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: was eleven to twenty seven for a quarterback running at
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: seventy two. How did that team go twelve and four
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: in the regular He said, I don't know. That's what's amazing.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: They were good.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 4: They were lighting it up early in the.
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: Chris Carson's last game with he ran for Sey. How
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: about this, because this isn't the news lately. Cam Akers
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: twenty eight carries one thirty one.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 4: That's why they signed him.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 16: That's why they signed him for didn Schneider sign Sam
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 16: Howell because of what he did for the Commanders when
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 16: they came to town. Yeah, and then he saw cam
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 16: Akers instead. They're going to have the guy, brother.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: They're going to have that guy.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 16: Meantime, he's only fifty, you know, compared to that guy
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 16: that we saw in two thousand.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: Some guy named Cup had seventy eight yards receiving that game.
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  Speaker 4: Signed him to signed him too. Who do they not sign?
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 4: Ernie Jones played for the Rams in that game? Was
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 4: Ernest Jones a Ram linebacker?
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  Speaker 2: Hang on?
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  Speaker 15: He was?
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  Speaker 4: I think he was? In twenty twenty? Was Ernest Jones
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  Speaker 4: playing for the Rams?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 12: Or no?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm just going through. Some guy named
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald.
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  Speaker 2: Played in that game.
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  Speaker 4: He's stunk, is a nobody.
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  Speaker 1: He had two sacks for eighteen year ours lost two
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: other tackles for the lost bomb three quarterback. Think about
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: what a tear this son of a gun was. He's
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: a two sacks, two tackles for loss, three quarterback hits.
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  Speaker 2: He crushed us, just absolutely abused them that day.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's lucky. Mike Trout, he is Mike Trout with
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: Felix Jeff.
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  Speaker 16: Remember Harney, he used to scratch his face talking to
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 16: his kids, so you know his kids. That's how we
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 16: said he to his kids. A weekly show with him
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 16: in Salt Lake with Horney. He was great early. I
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 16: called him Horny Stuck. The horny who was the long
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 16: time jazz radio gume would be Honey and he passed
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 16: away by Yeah, he was phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: He was good.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 4: My first jo hero. But it was fine. That's that's
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 4: always hartful. My first job in radio.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 16: One of my first jobs in radio was calling all
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 16: of the NBA studio hotline couplers at night and getting
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 16: audio highlights from all around the NBA for Mike Gastono's
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 16: pregame halftime postgame shows.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 4: I did that on the Sonic Radio network. So I
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 4: would dial into Joe.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 16: Tate on the Cavaliers Radio network hot Rod Honeley, Utah
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 16: hot Rod.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: Only with those guys, he yelled me. One time I
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: was doing when Locke came up here working with you guys.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: Once hockey season was over, I did the Jazz pre
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 1: and post game on the radio, and you sit courtside
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: and we're doing a playoff game and it was a
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: game with Malone went crazy. I think he had fifty
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: that game against Sallas. And we're in a commercial break
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: and he's got Malone way into an interview. He's like,
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: we we have the mail man here. We got the
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: mail man. You gotta stop talking and go.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 4: I went down to go run.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking.
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  Speaker 16: It's a commercial. Most people that hear your show want
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 16: you to stop talking.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 16: By the way, next time we talked, remind me to
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 16: tell you about my Karl Malone New York Vinty story.
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: Oh god, I got it. Tomorrow tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: Write that down.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: Write that down, all you got, Write that down, all
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: you guys, and your.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: Little notebook there right that down. I can't wat for
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: that one.
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  Speaker 16: What you got involves Carl Malone's mom. By the way,
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 16: to Carl Malone's mom, Karl Malone, New York Vinie and.
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: Me, I can't wait. That's tomorrow. That's cross talk tomorrow,
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 1: miss it now, what are you doing?
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 4: Forty five?
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  Speaker 16: Let's see Sonny Dike's you know him, former head coach
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 16: of col now at TCU, Bud Clark's college coach will
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 16: join us at four oh five. Sean Alexander will join
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 16: us at five point twenty five. Tonight, John Wilner, Brian Schmetzer,
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 16: little fun with audio, and we're gonna maybe do a
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 16: little eulogy for Luis Castile on the radio program.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 2: He passed.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 16: Well, when we do funerals for guys, they tend to
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 16: rise from the dead. Oh okay at the Undertaker. Yeah right,
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 16: So it might be time. It might be time to
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 16: give Luis Castile his due and see him rise up.
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 16: That's a good idea, right, It's Easter Tuesday on the
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 16: Softy Show, when Castilla is.
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: Gonna rise sort of, The Softy reverse chains one hundred
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  Speaker 1: percent
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  Speaker 4: For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable the Inverness This
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  Speaker 4: is paddle Day, saying so long everyone,