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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wow, Hey, everybody, welcome to another edition of the NFL
- 0:13Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Show. It's Being Your Man MG Marcus grand
- 0:16Speaker 1: Joy by Michael F. Florio and the Kwan Jones.
- 0:18Speaker 2: In the thick of.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Week eights, we bring in the back half of the
- 0:21Speaker 1: Fantasy's My Apocalypse. Yeah, it's gonna be wild because obviously
- 0:25Speaker 1: it is by them again and we got six teams
- 0:27Speaker 1: on a bye so to that end well, as we
- 0:31Speaker 1: always do, but especially this week, right, We've got Florio's
- 0:33Speaker 1: top starts and sits for Week eights. We pick some
- 0:35Speaker 1: of our favorite pass catches for Sunday Night and Monday nights.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Plus we're getting spicy with our bold calls of the week.
- 0:42Speaker 1: So let's just get right into it, right because you
- 0:45Speaker 1: can find all of these written by Michael F. Florio
- 0:48Speaker 1: on nfl dot com slash Start Sit. We will start,
- 0:51Speaker 1: as we always do, with a quarterback position. Who do
- 0:53Speaker 1: you like this week? Who do you not like this week?
- 0:56Speaker 3: I included the first two Dak Prescott and Drake May
- 0:59Speaker 3: because of their matchups.
- 1:00Speaker 2: I think they've kind of reached a point where.
- 1:02Speaker 3: You know, to start them weekly. But people are concerned
- 1:06Speaker 3: about the Broncos and Browns matchups. I still think these
- 1:08Speaker 3: guys are very much so in play. Jackson Dart we
- 1:11Speaker 3: went off against the Eagles two weeks ago. He goes
- 1:13Speaker 3: off against whoever he plays that week because of what
- 1:15Speaker 3: he does with his legs. Bo Nicks held in check
- 1:18Speaker 3: for three quarters and then had the greatest quarter in
- 1:20Speaker 3: Fantasy history.
- 1:21Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that's factual, it just feels like
- 1:23Speaker 2: it is.
- 1:23Speaker 3: And against the best matchup against the Cowboys, and then
- 1:26Speaker 3: Daniel Jones because the Titans do not generate pressure, and
- 1:29Speaker 3: I think that.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Are those are the weeks where you could really use.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Jones, and then sits Jordan Love has been all floor
- 1:36Speaker 3: and not really much upside this year. It's looking like
- 1:39Speaker 3: it's going to be Mac Jones for the forty nine ers.
- 1:41Speaker 3: But I just don't want to play either of their
- 1:43Speaker 3: qbs against the Texans, who really look good against Seattle
- 1:47Speaker 3: and have been a really tough matchup on against qbs.
- 1:50Speaker 3: Marcus Mariota has been in play because of his legs,
- 1:53Speaker 3: but I don't like the matchup against the Chiefs. There's
- 1:55Speaker 3: no way I want to do the two a thing.
- 1:57Speaker 3: And then Carson Wentz.
- 1:59Speaker 1: It is all bad in Miami, man like it seems
- 2:02Speaker 1: like every time to what steps to the microphone, something
- 2:05Speaker 1: something bad happens or something weird and comes out. But LaQuan,
- 2:09Speaker 1: when you're looking at these quarterbacks, these starts, especially any thoughts,
- 2:13Speaker 1: particularly in what you see there.
- 2:15Speaker 4: Like Caleb Williams to me, looks like a layup matchup
- 2:18Speaker 4: this week. Like we know the teams that we can
- 2:20Speaker 4: pick on, but I'm kind of side eyeing them because
- 2:23Speaker 4: last week was kind of uncomfortable less than five fantasy points,
- 2:26Speaker 4: and I'm kind of looking at like who you guys
- 2:28Speaker 4: find the Saints, Like I think there's gonna be a
- 2:31Speaker 4: lot of up and down when it come to Kayleb Williams.
- 2:33Speaker 4: But in the Bypocalypse, I'm just hoping that my homie
- 2:36Speaker 4: can hold me down because I really need this win
- 2:38Speaker 4: this week in the Bipocalypse, And I think, honestly, looking
- 2:41Speaker 4: at Ben Johnson's system, we have to remember and kind
- 2:44Speaker 4: of take a step back that his first year as
- 2:46Speaker 4: offensive coordinator for the Lions, this offense had its up
- 2:49Speaker 4: and down. It wasn't the Lions team that we know
- 2:51Speaker 4: and love now. So I still have upside. I still
- 2:54Speaker 4: have praise for Kayla Williams this season, but I'm kind
- 2:56Speaker 4: of side eyeing him this week, like you better get
- 2:58Speaker 4: the job done this week.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know the fantasy output was sort
- 3:02Speaker 1: of disappointing with Caleb this past week, but I also
- 3:05Speaker 1: wonder how much of it has to do with the
- 3:07Speaker 1: Bears coming out of the by have been so good
- 3:10Speaker 1: running the football.
- 3:12Speaker 2: You know, they went up twenty to nothing last week,
- 3:15Speaker 2: both rushing touchdowns. He didn't have to this week. Lamar
- 3:19Speaker 2: is on the other side, He's probably gonna have to
- 3:21Speaker 2: throw a bit more.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think so any of the guys there
- 3:24Speaker 1: on the s side of things, La Kwan that they
- 3:27Speaker 1: grabbed your attention.
- 3:29Speaker 4: Guys, I see too, And I'm like, have we been
- 3:32Speaker 4: looking at the fantasy streets these last couple of weeks,
- 3:34Speaker 4: Like I'm not sure anybody feels comfortable rostering to it
- 3:37Speaker 4: right now? That includes the Miami Dolphins. What the circus
- 3:40Speaker 4: is going to be going on and on as the
- 3:42Speaker 4: season progresses, Like he says the lack of height is
- 3:46Speaker 4: what he blamed on for not targeting Jay and Wattle,
- 3:48Speaker 4: Like come on, man, Like I can't understand why even
- 3:52Speaker 4: say that on camera, Like why even get in front
- 3:54Speaker 4: of him Mike to say that, like, you ain't the
- 3:56Speaker 4: tallest guy out there, but you ain't the shortest. Like
- 3:58Speaker 4: my guy is Bryce Young, shortest guy in the NFL
- 4:01Speaker 4: right now and as a starting quarterback, So what is
- 4:04Speaker 4: the excuse for them? They're they're actually having a winning
- 4:06Speaker 4: record where the Dolphins are kind of bad right now.
- 4:08Speaker 4: So I'm kind of getting away from all Dolphins players
- 4:11Speaker 4: outside the name of Devon a. Chan moving on from
- 4:14Speaker 4: the rest of the season.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was kind of wild, right.
- 4:17Speaker 1: I'm sure Bryce Young is sitting around be like, hey,
- 4:19Speaker 1: don't don't ask me any questions about this, Like I'm
- 4:21Speaker 1: name good, I'm straight, I can I can find my guys. Uh,
- 4:25Speaker 1: don't don't ask you about anything that's going on over there.
- 4:27Speaker 4: Making the six to one quarterbacks look bad Like Baker
- 4:30Speaker 4: six to one, Bro, he ain't complaining about no height thing.
- 4:33Speaker 4: He and the MVP talks right now, like come on
- 4:35Speaker 4: to it, get it together, Tua.
- 4:36Speaker 3: They need to turn the mic off sometimes, man, Like
- 4:38Speaker 3: this is like the third time in a month that
- 4:40Speaker 3: he's said something that he's got to come out and be.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Like, oh, I probably shouldn't have said that, Like what's
- 4:45Speaker 2: going on?
- 4:45Speaker 1: Man? Like just you don't need to talk at all
- 4:47Speaker 1: the time. Just you know, whatever you're thinking, just just
- 4:50Speaker 1: hold it back. It's fine. Maybe just just give it
- 4:54Speaker 1: a test run in front of your teammates and your coach.
- 4:56Speaker 3: And then what Mike McDaniel make me apologize for saying
- 4:58Speaker 3: that this should be going through his headed.
- 5:00Speaker 2: All at all time. We will see.
- 5:02Speaker 1: But otherwise it is all bad in Miami, both offensively
- 5:06Speaker 1: and defensively.
- 5:07Speaker 2: It's pretty much the devon ah Chan. It's like the
- 5:08Speaker 2: only guy I trust in that offense at this point.
- 5:11Speaker 2: And even Darren Waller, he's gone. He became a thing
- 5:14Speaker 2: for likes. He's gone. He's back in the booth. He's gone.
- 5:21Speaker 1: The running backs, though, yeah, obviously I think I've counted
- 5:24Speaker 1: six of the top twenty five running backs are off
- 5:27Speaker 1: this week because of buy So who are you starting?
- 5:29Speaker 2: Who are you sitting? DeAndre Swift?
- 5:31Speaker 3: You talk about the Bears running the ball extremely well,
- 5:33Speaker 3: they're also running the ball the third highest rate since
- 5:35Speaker 3: their bye week. I think he's a must start this week.
- 5:38Speaker 3: Breese Hall, as long as he's good to go health wise,
- 5:41Speaker 3: is a very good play this week. Eighteen carries per
- 5:44Speaker 3: eighteen opportunities per game, and the Bengals allow a lot
- 5:46Speaker 3: of explosive runs.
- 5:48Speaker 2: JK. Dobbins. I think is get right this game.
- 5:51Speaker 3: The last couple of weeks haven't been his best, but
- 5:53Speaker 3: the Cowboys have struggled against the run.
- 5:55Speaker 2: Like, don't call me a homer man.
- 5:57Speaker 3: I have two Panthers running backs as starts to against
- 6:00Speaker 3: the Bills this week, because he could run all over
- 6:03Speaker 3: the Bills. I like Rico Moore, but I do think
- 6:06Speaker 3: Chuba could get more passes if they're trailing in that game.
- 6:08Speaker 3: And then Bill Merritt, I think that they're just gonna
- 6:12Speaker 3: look to run the ball as much as they possibly
- 6:13Speaker 3: can against the Chiefs in that one. And as for
- 6:16Speaker 3: the Sis Alvin Kamara, I have big concerns that we
- 6:19Speaker 3: are watching the end of his career before our eyes.
- 6:22Speaker 3: Waving the white flag on Travian Henderson. It's just never
- 6:25Speaker 3: gonna happen, not with this coaching staff. Jalen Warren, because
- 6:30Speaker 3: the Packers are really good against not only the run,
- 6:33Speaker 3: they're good against limiting pass catching running backs. Chase Brown,
- 6:37Speaker 3: it's been all floor. Even last week he looked really good.
- 6:40Speaker 3: I was a floor game for fantasy. And then Tony
- 6:42Speaker 3: Pollard like he's just not doing much and Taji Spears
- 6:45Speaker 3: is getting more and more involved.
- 6:46Speaker 1: All right, So meam's on there that I certainly love
- 6:48Speaker 1: something that I'm I have a little bit of concern about.
- 6:50Speaker 1: But Lakwan, when you look at the starts for running backs,
- 6:52Speaker 1: anybody that in particular catchers your eye.
- 6:56Speaker 4: I'm hoping JK Domains can hold me down because these
- 6:58Speaker 4: last two weeks have been very uncomfortable looking at him,
- 7:02Speaker 4: having probably one of the lowest Fantasy performers in the
- 7:05Speaker 4: last two weeks that we hope this season because man,
- 7:08Speaker 4: it's hard to go out there in the bipocalypse with
- 7:10Speaker 4: so many startuple running backs on by and then trying
- 7:13Speaker 4: to trust the man that we call Sean Payon. He
- 7:16Speaker 4: is about to be the new Fantasy Streets boogie Man,
- 7:18Speaker 4: because I think he is making us pull our hair out,
- 7:21Speaker 4: giving us grace trying to figure out what's going on
- 7:24Speaker 4: with this actual attack because in the last four games, R. J.
- 7:28Speaker 4: Harvey and JK. Dobbins are both averaging nine Fantasy points
- 7:31Speaker 4: per game. Like, folks, this is getting real nasty. So
- 7:33Speaker 4: hopefully in this layup matchup, because the Cowboys defense are
- 7:37Speaker 4: allowing over one hundred and forty rushing yards per game.
- 7:40Speaker 4: This should be the matchup. We get this bounce back
- 7:42Speaker 4: from JK.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Dobbins. Are you done with RJ. Harvey this year? Lakwan Ah,
- 7:47Speaker 2: don't ask me that you know I'm holding Harvey man.
- 7:49Speaker 2: I gotta hold it down. That's my guy.
- 7:51Speaker 4: But I mean, look, there's another running back that I
- 7:54Speaker 4: actually want to bully my way into talking about who
- 7:56Speaker 4: else was on that board. But Florio, I'm happy to
- 7:59Speaker 4: see that we got Travion Henderson as a sit because
- 8:04Speaker 4: he had a birthday yesterday actually, and I'm really surprised
- 8:07Speaker 4: that the Patriots, you know, didn't post for Andre Stevenson
- 8:10Speaker 4: Happy Birthday instead of Travion Henderson. And I heard there
- 8:13Speaker 4: was a cake. Stevenson blew out the candles while Mike
- 8:16Speaker 4: Rabil watched. But this is the middle meter where I
- 8:19Speaker 4: have entered. I've revealed on Monday where Travon Henderson needs
- 8:23Speaker 4: to earn that whole name Hendo. He is Heno. So
- 8:27Speaker 4: whenever I get asked in my DMS on TikTok, They're like, oh,
- 8:30Speaker 4: do I start such and such or Travion Heno, do
- 8:33Speaker 4: not make the mistake. He is hitting the bench until
- 8:36Speaker 4: further noticing folks Florio, I'm sorry, but I had to
- 8:39Speaker 4: drop my guy. I shared on the pod two weeks
- 8:41Speaker 4: ago that I was ready to let go and cut ties,
- 8:44Speaker 4: and I'm okay with that because when that breakout game happens,
- 8:46Speaker 4: it's probably going to be on our bench, and probably
- 8:49Speaker 4: on the team that I'm not making the playoffs anyway.
- 8:53Speaker 1: So I look, I think for a lot of folks,
- 8:55Speaker 1: you know, Henderson is definitely going on the bench. I'm
- 8:57Speaker 1: sure a lot more people have rag dropped him over
- 8:59Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I want to ask you
- 9:00Speaker 1: for about Rimandre Stevenson, because he is getting the work.
- 9:03Speaker 1: They don't really want to go away from him. But
- 9:06Speaker 1: can you start him against the Browns this week?
- 9:08Speaker 2: Ideally I would not want to.
- 9:09Speaker 3: I think there are people out there who are in
- 9:12Speaker 3: a situation where there are the six teams on by,
- 9:15Speaker 3: and like you said, it's what six of the top
- 9:16Speaker 3: twenty five running backs sitting this week. Some injuries out
- 9:19Speaker 3: there and involving like your flex or whatever, you might
- 9:22Speaker 3: have no choice but to plug him in and just
- 9:24Speaker 3: be like, he's getting work. But I don't want to
- 9:27Speaker 3: use him if I don't have to We've seen Stevenson
- 9:29Speaker 3: struggle a lot this year with efficiency. Now he's going
- 9:32Speaker 3: up against maybe the best run defense in the NFL.
- 9:35Speaker 3: I think Rick may is very much so in play
- 9:38Speaker 3: this week in the pass catchers because there the Browns defense.
- 9:41Speaker 3: I think it looks a little bit better fantasy point
- 9:43Speaker 3: wise allowed than it does metrically against the pass. But
- 9:47Speaker 3: the run they check out across the board, they are
- 9:49Speaker 3: just dominant, So ideally I would try to get away
- 9:52Speaker 3: the upside.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Though It's been a couple of weeks since Stevenson has fumbled,
- 9:56Speaker 1: so that's a got that going for He was.
- 9:58Speaker 2: My sleeper last week. Yeah.
- 10:01Speaker 3: Yeah, when he fumbles next time, they're gonna blame Treon problems.
- 10:08Speaker 2: That's kind of how it's gone so far this season.
- 10:11Speaker 1: We'll get back to some more starts and since in
- 10:13Speaker 1: just a little bit, but time to take a look
- 10:15Speaker 1: at the Sunday night matchup between the Green Bay Packers
- 10:18Speaker 1: and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Here are the first touchdown odds
- 10:22Speaker 1: for this one. Josh Jacobs with the best odds, followed
- 10:25Speaker 1: by Jalen Warren.
- 10:27Speaker 2: Then it's Tucker Craft, DK Metcalf and Romeo Dobbs.
- 10:30Speaker 1: A little bit of alternating between the Packers and the
- 10:32Speaker 1: Steelers in that one, lakwan, When you look at that
- 10:35Speaker 1: list between Jacob's, Warren Craft, Metcalf, and Dobbs, anybody you
- 10:40Speaker 1: liked there or would you like to go off.
- 10:41Speaker 2: Book for something. I like DK Metcalf.
- 10:45Speaker 4: I think Aaron Rodgers is gonna have him as a
- 10:47Speaker 4: key piece to be really petty in this game, because
- 10:49Speaker 4: I know Aaron Rodgers is looking at this like this
- 10:51Speaker 4: ain't a revenge game, but he wants to make a statement,
- 10:53Speaker 4: and I think DK has been his guy when he's
- 10:56Speaker 4: looking to put up six points. So I think last
- 10:58Speaker 4: week was kind of an outlier. Or Florio shouted out
- 11:01Speaker 4: that three tight ends will score touchdown.
- 11:03Speaker 2: What a call.
- 11:04Speaker 4: By the way, I don't know what Etsy Voodoovich you
- 11:08Speaker 4: put on freaking Dk Metcalf last week, but he made
- 11:11Speaker 4: me lose my league not being involved. Oh yeah, he
- 11:13Speaker 4: is the Fantasy Streets boogie man. But I think Sean
- 11:15Speaker 4: Pain and him they're kind of tied right now when
- 11:17Speaker 4: it comes to claiming that claim.
- 11:19Speaker 2: But I do like DK Metcalf all right.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Well along those lines, since you are apparently the Steelers
- 11:25Speaker 1: tight end whisperer, if we are spinning the wheel because
- 11:28Speaker 1: the Packers have not been good against fantasy tight ends.
- 11:31Speaker 2: Who doesn't land on this week?
- 11:34Speaker 3: We do this same segment on Fantasy Live on Fridays,
- 11:36Speaker 3: and my answers is great.
- 11:39Speaker 2: I can't wait for it. It is a tight end.
- 11:43Speaker 3: It's probably not the one you're thinking of, but I
- 11:45Speaker 3: think Friar Hayward. I think Friar is probably the one
- 11:53Speaker 3: I trust the most, just because the way he's being
- 11:56Speaker 3: used right now. But I wouldn't be surprised at all
- 11:58Speaker 3: if it's another game where him and John hu Smith
- 12:01Speaker 3: split targets and they're both kind of heavily utilized, and
- 12:05Speaker 3: then Washington is used in the red zone because of that.
- 12:08Speaker 3: Because the Packers struggle against tight ends, they're really good
- 12:12Speaker 3: against the run. They've they've been hit or miss a
- 12:14Speaker 3: little bit against receivers, but the Steelers only have one
- 12:17Speaker 3: that you really need to lock in on, so I
- 12:20Speaker 3: expect them to continue to feature their tight ends. It's again,
- 12:23Speaker 3: I say a lot, it's not gonna be fun for fantasy,
- 12:25Speaker 3: but Arthur Smith does.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Not care in the slightest about fantasy.
- 12:29Speaker 1: And I look, I know before you you know sweet
- 12:31Speaker 1: beer m me or whatever. Like, Yes, I know Cam
- 12:34Speaker 1: Hayward plays defense, but he's lined up a tight end
- 12:37Speaker 1: a couple times.
- 12:37Speaker 2: This year because Arthur Smith likes to be tricky like that.
- 12:40Speaker 1: So that that's the whole don't don't at me, that's
- 12:43Speaker 1: all I'm saying.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Taking any quick break.
- 12:45Speaker 1: But when we come back, we'll dive into the Monday
- 12:47Speaker 1: night football contest between the Commanders and the Chiefs and
- 12:50Speaker 1: some more starts and since that's coming up next on
- 12:52Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Show, so we're trying something new
- 12:59Speaker 1: this week.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Gonna have one Monday night football game. That's it, just one.
- 13:03Speaker 1: It's the Commanders at the chief You can see that game,
- 13:05Speaker 1: of course at Monday at eight to fifteen pm Eastern
- 13:08Speaker 1: Time on ESPN, ESPN deport it Is, I believe, also
- 13:12Speaker 1: on the American Broadcasting.
- 13:14Speaker 2: And The O Show, The Old Show ESPN eight, The
- 13:17Speaker 2: Old Show, Lakwan.
- 13:19Speaker 1: The Chiefs have pretty much everybody back now, right, Savior
- 13:23Speaker 1: word is back where she Rice just came back, Hollywood Brown,
- 13:26Speaker 1: Travis Kelce, Juju Smith, Shoes, Taekwon, Thornton, uh Stefan, Paige, Lakwan, Jones,
- 13:32Speaker 1: Dwayne bow Like, they're all there. They're all available for
- 13:35Speaker 1: the Chiefs this week. Which Chiefs pass catcher out of
- 13:39Speaker 1: that group do you trust the most? It has to
- 13:42Speaker 1: be Rashid Rice. Like last week he was targeted on
- 13:45Speaker 1: sixty two percent of his routes. That high a percentage
- 13:48Speaker 1: just tells the story of how much attention Patrick Mahomes
- 13:53Speaker 1: is paying to Rashid Rice. Because at the end of
- 13:56Speaker 1: the day, you saw when he put that we're in sync,
- 13:59Speaker 1: when he made that rate catch on the sideline, Like,
- 14:01Speaker 1: this is a guy that is locked in with one
- 14:04Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. This high of
- 14:07Speaker 1: percentage of attention is going to be all season long.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Like all the fantasy managers that held onto the Rice bag,
- 14:14Speaker 1: I know they are happy because I.
- 14:16Speaker 2: Am one of them.
- 14:16Speaker 4: I'm plugging him in as a wide receiver three, as
- 14:19Speaker 4: a flex in a lot of leagues, and this guy's
- 14:21Speaker 4: gonna be putting up twenty burgers twenty burgers after twenty burgers,
- 14:25Speaker 4: and you're gonna be.
- 14:25Speaker 2: Full righting your way to the Fantasy Championship.
- 14:28Speaker 1: I feel like the actual answer is none. I mean,
- 14:31Speaker 1: like you're not not starting them right, Like you're not
- 14:34Speaker 1: gonna not start Rashi Rice and you're not gonna not
- 14:36Speaker 1: start Xavier Worthy or Travis Kelcey, but there's just so
- 14:40Speaker 1: many guys.
- 14:41Speaker 2: I think Rashi Rice is the dude, Like, yeah.
- 14:44Speaker 1: I mean it was cool because I think you got
- 14:46Speaker 1: targeted on like what ten of fourteen U fifteen routes?
- 14:52Speaker 2: This just doesn't feel sustainable.
- 14:54Speaker 3: Yeah, they He is the one though that I think
- 14:56Speaker 3: it's easiest to generate.
- 14:57Speaker 2: But like like what Kelsey used to get those.
- 14:59Speaker 3: Quick catch and run things like that, that's gonna go
- 15:02Speaker 3: to Rice now. I think Worthy is the one I
- 15:04Speaker 3: think takes the biggest hit because he's kind of gonna
- 15:06Speaker 3: become more downfield or bust and that is always the hardest.
- 15:11Speaker 1: Usage just sustained week to week. I feel like that
- 15:13Speaker 1: applies to Taekwon Thornton too. Oh yeah, we had a moment.
- 15:16Speaker 1: He had a nice moment, But I don't think that's
- 15:18Speaker 1: a I.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Would I dropped him in a few weeks. This week,
- 15:22Speaker 2: all right, maybe maybe it's narrowing down.
- 15:24Speaker 1: I think this week we'll get a good idea of
- 15:26Speaker 1: exactly how it's going to go. I think we'll get
- 15:28Speaker 1: more or she Rice right, he was still sort of
- 15:30Speaker 1: limited because he hadn't had any extra game action so
- 15:33Speaker 1: we'll get a good sense of it coming up tonight
- 15:35Speaker 1: or Monday Night.
- 15:36Speaker 2: I should say against the Washington Commanders.
- 15:38Speaker 1: Back to the starts and since four week eight, looking
- 15:41Speaker 1: at the wide receivers, Florio, who are you up on?
- 15:43Speaker 2: Who are you down on? Steph? A lot of Thursday
- 15:46Speaker 2: Night names. Only three starts here, but Steph Diggs I
- 15:49Speaker 2: think is very much so in play. I know it
- 15:51Speaker 2: was a down week last week, but he's still getting
- 15:53Speaker 2: all the volume Roma Dunesday.
- 15:55Speaker 3: I love this week. Two down games, but the Ravens
- 15:59Speaker 3: have allowed the most zone touchdowns too wide receivers, and
- 16:02Speaker 3: he is the Bears red zone passing attack. And then
- 16:04Speaker 3: Wandel Robinson just a lot of volume going his way.
- 16:07Speaker 3: He had success against the Eagles a couple of weeks ago,
- 16:10Speaker 3: and then the Sis.
- 16:11Speaker 2: We spoke about it earlier this week on the pod.
- 16:14Speaker 3: But I'm done with Dj Moore just one game with
- 16:17Speaker 3: more than five targets and it was six.
- 16:19Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings. He's playing with so many injuries right now
- 16:23Speaker 2: that until he looks like himself, I think you could
- 16:26Speaker 2: get away. Keyon Coleman. I just hate the way he's.
- 16:29Speaker 3: Being used right now. It's not putting him in a
- 16:31Speaker 3: bunch of positions to succeed Hollywood. Brown just said I
- 16:34Speaker 3: dropped him in some leagues. I just he had four
- 16:36Speaker 3: targets last week. He caught a touchdown, but I don't
- 16:38Speaker 3: think he's gonna get enough volume. And then Boody like, look,
- 16:42Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks have been really fun for fantasy,
- 16:44Speaker 3: but he's averaging less than three targets per game since
- 16:46Speaker 3: Week two.
- 16:47Speaker 1: Yeah, he did have that nice long touchdown catch last weeks.
- 16:50Speaker 3: Fall or nothing because he's got the best deep all
- 16:52Speaker 3: thrower in the NFL, which is good, but if he
- 16:55Speaker 3: doesn't catch it, you're getting like no points.
- 16:57Speaker 1: Looking at the starts though, LaQuan and I know a
- 16:59Speaker 1: little bit shorter list this week, but one of those
- 17:01Speaker 1: three guys make a bigger impact for you.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Shorter list for a short king.
- 17:06Speaker 4: Wandel Robinson like guys, his A dot is double of
- 17:09Speaker 4: what it was last season. Like I like seeing Wandell
- 17:13Speaker 4: Robinson being in star positions. He's entering that realm of
- 17:16Speaker 4: where like he has flex appeal each and every week
- 17:18Speaker 4: with Jackson dark because I was fearful that we were
- 17:21Speaker 4: gonna lose that long ball that that Russell Wilson moonball
- 17:24Speaker 4: that he was getting to Wando Robinson. Jackson Dar's doing
- 17:27Speaker 4: the same. Like right now, Wandell is top three in
- 17:29Speaker 4: deep ball receptions. Like it's insane to see Wando Robson
- 17:33Speaker 4: still bawling. So folks, he's like one of those Bilo candidates. Like,
- 17:37Speaker 4: I'm ready to get on my roster because I want
- 17:40Speaker 4: somebody with reliable hands, ability after to catch and getting
- 17:43Speaker 4: these deep targets on top of that, I mean, Florio
- 17:46Speaker 4: shout out to you, man. I hope Wando goes crazy
- 17:48Speaker 4: this week.
- 17:49Speaker 2: I like Wandale a lot this week.
- 17:51Speaker 1: And I know, for all the hype we've talked about
- 17:53Speaker 1: with Jackson, Dart and Cam Scattaboo, Wandell Robinson's a top
- 17:57Speaker 1: twenty wide receiver. He's top twenty in the league in targets, receptions,
- 18:01Speaker 1: and receiving yards. You mentioned the A dot, right, I
- 18:04Speaker 1: mean last year is just about it was just about five.
- 18:06Speaker 1: Right now it's it's a little over nine.
- 18:10Speaker 2: Dude. What the concept everything's coming up? Wondale. No, that's great,
- 18:13Speaker 2: it's great. So No, I'm I'm all on board with
- 18:16Speaker 2: Wondale Robinson. No, last year you only ran five yards?
- 18:19Speaker 2: What if we like used a little bit more downfield
- 18:22Speaker 2: a couple you could do that? You do that?
- 18:25Speaker 1: Who knows any of the any assists that Juan Jennings,
- 18:28Speaker 1: DJ Moore, Coleman, any of those guys that you know
- 18:32Speaker 1: you're particularly off of.
- 18:34Speaker 4: I got to tap him with my boy Florio that. Like, Bro,
- 18:37Speaker 4: are we still rostering Keonkman?
- 18:39Speaker 2: Like?
- 18:39Speaker 4: What as a fantasy manager? Like what do we do? Like?
- 18:42Speaker 4: I honestly look at key On cole how you were
- 18:44Speaker 4: saying not being put in possessed, I mean and put
- 18:46Speaker 4: in position for success. But it's like, when are they
- 18:48Speaker 4: going to do that? Because this is one of those
- 18:51Speaker 4: games they got this week where my Bowl prediction might
- 18:54Speaker 4: be another reason why you might have to drop Keon
- 18:56Speaker 4: Coleman this week.
- 18:56Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw your Bowl prediction. I'm curious to hear
- 18:59Speaker 2: the reasonable behind that. But don't be jumping ahead in
- 19:03Speaker 2: the rundown, Bro, you can't do that.
- 19:05Speaker 3: I have key On in a lot of leagues and
- 19:07Speaker 3: I'm I've been reluctant to cut him because I think
- 19:11Speaker 3: there's upside there. But to me, I think it depends
- 19:13Speaker 3: on what's out there on your waiver, in the size
- 19:15Speaker 3: of your league, Like my one home league is a
- 19:17Speaker 3: twelve team league where we have two flex spots, three
- 19:20Speaker 3: wide receivers, and a lot of bench spots.
- 19:22Speaker 2: I'm holding him there.
- 19:23Speaker 3: But in a in a league where it was like
- 19:25Speaker 3: a ten team with a regular size bench, I did
- 19:27Speaker 3: cut him. So it kind of depends on your league
- 19:30Speaker 3: and your options, I think. But I still think there's
- 19:33Speaker 3: a lot of potential there. They just I just hate
- 19:36Speaker 3: everything about him.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Yeah, confirmation bia secuping me from dropping him, right, because
- 19:39Speaker 1: like I went, I didn't. I don't know if I
- 19:40Speaker 1: went heavy in on him, but I believe, and so
- 19:42Speaker 1: like I'm not ready, I'm not ready to admit that
- 19:44Speaker 1: I was wrong.
- 19:45Speaker 2: You see the flash there, It's there.
- 19:49Speaker 1: Everything everything Lakwan has said is right. I'm just not
- 19:52Speaker 1: ready to admit that I was rolling yet. That's all.
- 19:55Speaker 2: It's a me thing. I'm full. I'm fine admitting that
- 19:57Speaker 2: it's a me thing.
- 19:58Speaker 1: Finally, tight Ends because it is is by the way,
- 20:00Speaker 1: not only is it by him again, it is National
- 20:02Speaker 1: tight End Day coming up on Sunday. Last year, tight
- 20:06Speaker 1: Ends went big on National tight End Day. So who
- 20:09Speaker 1: are your starts and sits there?
- 20:10Speaker 2: This week? Did you see NBC trying to make National
- 20:12Speaker 2: running backs. Yeah, well I.
- 20:14Speaker 1: Think that was like the running backs started, like tried
- 20:17Speaker 1: to start there.
- 20:18Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 20:18Speaker 2: I hope it works out for them.
- 20:19Speaker 3: I don't know if it'll have the success that national
- 20:21Speaker 3: tight ends they did, but Dallas Goddard is very much
- 20:25Speaker 3: they started. I know last week was a little bit
- 20:26Speaker 3: down for him, but he went off two weeks ago
- 20:29Speaker 3: against the Giants and aj Brown is.
- 20:31Speaker 2: Up in the air right now.
- 20:32Speaker 3: Dalkincaid it was wild how badly the Bills missed him
- 20:36Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago against the Falcons, and it
- 20:38Speaker 3: is a great matchup against the Panthers hald Fan and junior.
- 20:41Speaker 3: The Patriots have struggled against tight ends a bit, and
- 20:44Speaker 3: I just think there's a chemistry there between Dylan Gabriel
- 20:47Speaker 3: and Fannin and then Kyle Pitts Senior. Not only have
- 20:50Speaker 3: the Dolphins struggle against tight ends, they struggle against slot receivers,
- 20:54Speaker 3: and Kyle Pitts has the most slot snaps for the Falcons.
- 20:57Speaker 3: Sis zach Ertz is a completely different player when Jayden
- 21:00Speaker 3: Daniels is not out there and the Chiefs are a
- 21:02Speaker 3: tough matchup Hunter Henry. I still want him to be
- 21:06Speaker 3: a thing, but the volume has just kind of dried
- 21:08Speaker 3: up as of late. Neil Johnson, we talked about it earlier,
- 21:11Speaker 3: but his touchdown this week was extremely lucky. He was
- 21:14Speaker 3: held in check against the Eagles two weeks ago, and
- 21:17Speaker 3: then John new Smith, Like, it's kind of all the
- 21:19Speaker 3: Steelers right, like Pat Froyan, we've had a monster game
- 21:21Speaker 3: the other day.
- 21:22Speaker 2: I feel zero.
- 21:23Speaker 3: Percent confidence that you could trust that though, because we
- 21:25Speaker 3: don't even know which Steelers tight end it'll be on
- 21:28Speaker 3: a given week.
- 21:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's always a hard part.
- 21:30Speaker 1: I did put John new Smith in the Sleepers column
- 21:33Speaker 1: this week, but also admitted that it could be.
- 21:36Speaker 2: Options it. Guys.
- 21:39Speaker 1: I just I just threw a dart at John new
- 21:41Speaker 1: Smith and so see what happens h on the start
- 21:44Speaker 1: side of tight ends there. Lakwan, who who's standing out
- 21:48Speaker 1: to you in that group?
- 21:50Speaker 4: Kyle pits Man, I'm staying committed, committed to my ticket
- 21:52Speaker 4: that I bought earlier at this season and because like
- 21:55Speaker 4: there's one thing that we're seeing is that the volume
- 21:57Speaker 4: is going to remain consistent. Like myl Penix's cashing in
- 22:01Speaker 4: on keeping his word of getting the ball to Pits
- 22:03Speaker 4: a lot, I mean a season high in ten targets.
- 22:05Speaker 4: This is a rarity. He's only done this three times
- 22:08Speaker 4: in his career. But Michael Penix is finding Kyle Pitts.
- 22:11Speaker 4: Like we're not seeing those games that we used to
- 22:13Speaker 4: see where he has one target, one catch for like
- 22:15Speaker 4: six yards. Like, we're seeing him being more involved in
- 22:18Speaker 4: the offense as the offensive plan progresses. So I do think, Man,
- 22:22Speaker 4: I'm actually happy with Kyle Pitts's situation right now. I'm
- 22:25Speaker 4: a happy Kyle Pits manager at this point. Like, Guys,
- 22:28Speaker 4: this is kind of new for me to like kind
- 22:30Speaker 4: of deal with because we know Kyle Pitts was like
- 22:33Speaker 4: one of the OG's in the saturl discontent.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Hey, man, Like welcome aboard, though, Like because he's very
- 22:39Speaker 1: quietly putting together a nice season.
- 22:41Speaker 3: You know, it's a little different when when like you
- 22:44Speaker 3: use him as a streamer or like a waiver wire guy.
- 22:47Speaker 3: It's a lot different when you're like top five Kyle.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I'm happy those days are behind him.
- 22:53Speaker 1: So he's gotten to a point now that we're comfortable,
- 22:55Speaker 1: you know, where we drafted him and where we're putting
- 22:57Speaker 1: him in lineups. Guys that you're not comfortable putting in
- 22:59Speaker 1: line up solo quan Which which of those guys that.
- 23:02Speaker 2: The Florio listed are you, you know, on board with it?
- 23:04Speaker 2: Maybe not on board with.
- 23:06Speaker 4: I'm sad to see my guy John new Smith as
- 23:08Speaker 4: a sit Florio. I mean we're we're trying to get
- 23:11Speaker 4: him back to top five, right, Like, that's my guy.
- 23:14Speaker 4: I mean the Blonde Bandit might make a return if
- 23:16Speaker 4: John new Smith scores this weekend, Like I'll go blonde
- 23:19Speaker 4: if he scores a touchdown this week against the Packer.
- 23:22Speaker 4: So I'm kind of upset to see him as a
- 23:24Speaker 4: sit this week.
- 23:25Speaker 1: For you?
- 23:26Speaker 3: Was it Harold Fan Jr. Who was the player this year?
- 23:28Speaker 3: You said you would die your hair blonde?
- 23:30Speaker 2: Harrow Fan and Jr. It was right, and we are
- 23:33Speaker 2: far off.
- 23:34Speaker 4: Thankfully, Joe Fla is elsewhere, so I don't have to
- 23:37Speaker 4: worry about that.
- 23:38Speaker 2: Flaco's gone.
- 23:39Speaker 1: You're you're pretty much done with that now in total points,
- 23:42Speaker 1: I'm just all right now, don't put it in the universe.
- 23:45Speaker 2: Hey, he's.
- 23:47Speaker 3: There's like a fourteen point gap, thirteen point gap between
- 23:51Speaker 3: him and Travis Kelton.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Now he's gonna have a blow up week.
- 23:56Speaker 1: I think Travis Kelsey goes big this week against the Commanders,
- 23:59Speaker 1: So maybe that.
- 23:59Speaker 2: Helps you the bit. I don't know.
- 24:00Speaker 1: We'll see anyway for more starts and since you can
- 24:03Speaker 1: always go to NFL dot com slash start and sit
- 24:05Speaker 1: for more analysis on all of these guys there. In
- 24:07Speaker 1: the meantime, ditch Taste Buzz Ready time for some spicy
- 24:11Speaker 1: hot takes for Week eight. Now the moment that Florida
- 24:14Speaker 1: has been waiting for seeing why Lakwan made the.
- 24:17Speaker 2: Bold prediction that he did, Please please.
- 24:19Speaker 4: Go hey, we got to check her tone when we
- 24:22Speaker 4: talk about this Carolina and Panthers defense.
- 24:24Speaker 2: Now, this is a.
- 24:25Speaker 4: Top ten defense, and the last two games Josh Allen
- 24:27Speaker 4: has played, we've kind of seen him be the turnover machine.
- 24:31Speaker 4: So all the DST folks out there who still have
- 24:34Speaker 4: that as a slot option, I have a bold prediction
- 24:37Speaker 4: this week that the Panthers defense are going.
- 24:40Speaker 2: To put up big points.
- 24:41Speaker 4: When we look at Josh Allen struggling against the Patriots,
- 24:44Speaker 4: struggling against the Falcons also top ten defenses. I don't know, man,
- 24:49Speaker 4: the Panthers are sneaky sleeper that might be able to
- 24:52Speaker 4: be fixing your bipocalypse if you're in a DST situation.
- 24:57Speaker 1: All right, so the parently I've been noticing, though you
- 25:00Speaker 1: can't necessarily just talk it. Last year we could target
- 25:02Speaker 1: the Panthers pretty much for anything, especially running backs.
- 25:04Speaker 2: I've been quite so easy to pick on the Panthers,
- 25:07Speaker 2: for sure. Josh Allen's go I'm just selling you. He
- 25:10Speaker 2: coming off with two losses in his career is undefeated.
- 25:13Speaker 2: The Bills. You have to go back a decade to
- 25:15Speaker 2: the last time they lost coming off of body.
- 25:17Speaker 3: Say, two losses in a row and a buy and
- 25:20Speaker 3: the Panthers don't generate pressure.
- 25:21Speaker 2: That was what the Falcons did that got to him.
- 25:24Speaker 2: All right, we'll see, all.
- 25:25Speaker 4: Right, those two turnovers in the red zone is kind
- 25:27Speaker 4: of questionable. Better lock in, all right, Floryda, what is
- 25:32Speaker 4: your bold prediction.
- 25:33Speaker 3: The week that we've all been waiting for, our favorite
- 25:35Speaker 3: running back named after our favorite cowboy is going to
- 25:39Speaker 3: break out, because that's actually Woody Marks is named after
- 25:42Speaker 3: Woody the Cowboy. But Woody Mars goes for one hundred
- 25:45Speaker 3: plus yards and a touchdown because we saw last week
- 25:48Speaker 3: what we wanted to see, right, he was getting a
- 25:50Speaker 3: lot of those snaps.
- 25:51Speaker 2: He was getting most.
- 25:52Speaker 3: Of the work on the ground and through the air
- 25:54Speaker 3: and in the red zone. The thing is, the Texan
- 25:58Speaker 3: zone line is bad, and the Seahawks were able to
- 26:00Speaker 3: hit him quickly behind the line.
- 26:03Speaker 2: All of that.
- 26:04Speaker 3: Since the Nicko Bolsa injury, not only are the forty
- 26:07Speaker 3: nine Ers allowing nearly five yards per carry, they're in
- 26:09Speaker 3: the top six in yards allowed after contact. So I
- 26:13Speaker 3: think that Woody Marx will will be able to take
- 26:15Speaker 3: that volume that he saw last week and have a
- 26:18Speaker 3: more productive day against just what is a very depleted
- 26:21Speaker 3: forty nine Ers defense.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't hate that at all, you know, I
- 26:25Speaker 1: think especially I think the other part of it too,
- 26:27Speaker 1: maybe not so much rushing, but catching the football with
- 26:30Speaker 1: no uh no Christian Kirk, no, Nico Collins.
- 26:34Speaker 2: Yeah, that's certainly in the realm of is there. It
- 26:36Speaker 2: was forty one or said I. I just don't listen
- 26:41Speaker 2: to I don't listen to him anymore. It doesn't even
- 26:43Speaker 2: matter yet the new button ready, I don't care. I
- 26:46Speaker 2: don't care. As terrible against a run.
- 26:49Speaker 1: My look, you what who says that your team can't
- 26:52Speaker 1: cover tight ends or running quarterbacks?
- 26:54Speaker 4: So like, yeah, hey, I'm realistic though. I'm realistic though.
- 26:58Speaker 2: But I realistic too.
- 26:59Speaker 1: I told you, I like this team doesn't handle the run. Well,
- 27:02Speaker 1: it's fine.
- 27:03Speaker 2: Three way time for first place in your guys division.
- 27:06Speaker 2: This is and then and then the Cardinals.
- 27:10Speaker 1: Anyway, for me, my vote prediction is Bijon Robinson has
- 27:13Speaker 1: a huge day. Two hundred scrimmage yards and a pair
- 27:15Speaker 1: of touchdowns. You got the guy who is the best
- 27:18Speaker 1: running back or the best player in the NFL according
- 27:21Speaker 1: to Raheem Morris. Going against the worst run defense in
- 27:25Speaker 1: the NFL according to math, that seems like a recipe
- 27:30Speaker 1: for magic to happen.
- 27:31Speaker 2: Has been great.
- 27:32Speaker 1: He's averaging about seven yards per touch. He's actually second
- 27:35Speaker 1: on the team in receiving yards, behind Drake London. The
- 27:39Speaker 1: Dolphins pretty much anyway you slice it, are bad defensively
- 27:42Speaker 1: against running backs. Whether it's running, whether it's catching the football,
- 27:45Speaker 1: all of that has been bad. So I expect that
- 27:48Speaker 1: Bejon Robinson is going to absolutely eat now.
- 27:51Speaker 2: That you weren't starting him. You're absolutely starting him anyway.
- 27:54Speaker 1: But this feels like a huge, huge blow up week
- 27:58Speaker 1: for Bashan.
- 28:00Speaker 3: Getting to the point where like that's still a big game,
- 28:02Speaker 3: but it's like all right, you know, like like Bijon
- 28:06Speaker 3: like like a normal game.
- 28:07Speaker 2: If he puts up one hundred and a touchdown. It's
- 28:09Speaker 2: no longer impressive.
- 28:10Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, that's just that's just what he does. Yeah,
- 28:12Speaker 1: that's just the thing that he does. Anyway, those are
- 28:14Speaker 1: our hot takes.
- 28:15Speaker 2: That is it. We are done.
- 28:17Speaker 1: We appreciate you hanging out with the NFL Fantasy Football Show.
- 28:20Speaker 2: You know the drill.
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- 28:27Speaker 1: take care of yourselves. Enjoy Week eight, everybody.
- 28:29Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again on Monday.