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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 130 | Predicting Headlines Following Jaguars' Upcoming Season Finale · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into JAGSA. I'm happy New Year.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Kindanni Stephens, fran Sexton and John Oser are with
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  Speaker 2: me today and we've made it. It's the final week
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  Speaker 2: of the regular season. The Jaguars are gonna head to
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  Speaker 2: Indianapolis face off against the Colts in their final game
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  Speaker 2: of this season. We'll start out with big thing number one,
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  Speaker 2: which is one more time, one more game for everybody
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  Speaker 2: this year, and that includes quarterback Mac Jones, who's trying
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  Speaker 2: to make a name for himself.
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  Speaker 3: It's tough, you know. You're, like I said, trying to
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  Speaker 3: be where your feet are, trying to keep it simple,
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  Speaker 3: trying to take it one play at a time and
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  Speaker 3: not thinking about the outcome of the game or the
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  Speaker 3: season or what's gonna happen next day. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, we're out there
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  Speaker 3: playing because we love the game. We want to have fun,
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  Speaker 3: and I know both teams are gonna do that this week.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great, great defense we get to go against.
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  Speaker 3: Always is a tough defense, a lot of good players,
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  Speaker 3: roll coached, and so it's an opportunity really, which is
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  Speaker 3: how I look at it. And I'm gonna control what
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  Speaker 3: I can control and let the chips fall Brian.
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  Speaker 2: In many ways, this season has felt like a marathon
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  Speaker 2: of sorts. We've finally reached the final week and mac
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  Speaker 2: Jones is going to try to make the best of
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  Speaker 2: it for himself to land somewhere New.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he came here with the idea that this
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  Speaker 5: would be a rehab job, you know, and it turns
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  Speaker 5: out not to the extent of a Baker Mayfield or
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  Speaker 5: a Sam Darnold, but for him, if he could get
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  Speaker 5: the job done, he would have given the Jaguars. You know,
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  Speaker 5: they've got four wins on the season. If they win
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  Speaker 5: on Sunday, he'll have given them three or five. And
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  Speaker 5: in order for them to win, he's gonna have to
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  Speaker 5: play well. So there will be opportunities for him around
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  Speaker 5: the National Football League, maybe not to step in and
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  Speaker 5: be the starter, but there'll be an opportunity if he
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  Speaker 5: plays well, someone will be interested in him.
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  Speaker 4: So he's got a lot to play for.
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  Speaker 5: Although John, I mean when he's in front of the
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  Speaker 5: media like he was there, he's relaxed. He gon knock
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  Speaker 5: like that's what's driving him. He actually he just wants
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  Speaker 5: to go play well on Sunday. Which gives him a chance.
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  Speaker 5: I think because he's focused on the here and now.
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  Speaker 5: What does he say being worst feed.
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  Speaker 6: Are Yeah, he's been there before.
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  Speaker 7: He knows how to handle the media, and he knows
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  Speaker 7: how he wants to handle the media, which is by
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  Speaker 7: saying very little when he's on the podium.
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  Speaker 6: He clearly he knows what the stakes are.
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  Speaker 7: He alluded to it a little bit when he talked
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  Speaker 7: on Wednesday about Look, you know, that's always the million
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  Speaker 7: dollar question, where you're gonna be next year, what the
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  Speaker 7: contract's gonna be. I anticipate Mac having a long career
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  Speaker 7: in the NFL. I would anticipate him going to a
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  Speaker 7: spot where he'll have a chance if a quarterback who
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  Speaker 7: is less obviously the guy than Trevor Lawrence is in
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  Speaker 7: that system, then he may go there with the chance
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  Speaker 7: of if this guy falters, this is more beatable. He
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  Speaker 7: has in the last couple of weeks shown to me
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  Speaker 7: that he can absolutely be a backup quarterback who can
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  Speaker 7: come in and function. Remember his situation, a lot going
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  Speaker 7: wrong around him, a lot of injuries, so he has
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  Speaker 7: not had a full arsenal weapons and he's still seven touchdowns,
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  Speaker 7: seven interceptions. He's been fine, and I expect him to be
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  Speaker 7: a backup next year.
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  Speaker 2: All right, look at our second big thing today, which
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  Speaker 2: is carryover. We talk about what a win would mean
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  Speaker 2: at this point in the season. Doug Peterson tried to
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  Speaker 2: figure out exactly what that would mean to the team.
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  Speaker 8: It definitely can, I think it. I think it just
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  Speaker 8: leaves that that good taste, that feeling of winning, you know,
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  Speaker 8: especially now here we start to start a new year
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  Speaker 8: and and have an opportunity, you know, to do that.
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  Speaker 8: I think just gives you a little momentum, gives you
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  Speaker 8: the hope that you want and that you need, and
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  Speaker 8: then and then you work on what you need to fix.
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  Speaker 8: So if we can do that, and plus we finished
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  Speaker 8: four and two in the division, if that's if that's
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  Speaker 8: the case, you know, but playing a good football team,
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  Speaker 8: you know, right running back, quarterback, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 8: defenses I think six in the NFL and takeaway I mean,
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  Speaker 8: it's a good football team. So we gotta we gotta
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  Speaker 8: go and keep our keep our mind.
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  Speaker 2: Right John, At this point, obviously, this season is what
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  Speaker 2: it is. Is there any takeaway from this or is
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  Speaker 2: it still just getting the young players out there getting
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  Speaker 2: that experience.
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  Speaker 7: Look, they're programmed to win, so they're gonna go out there.
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  Speaker 7: They're gonna prepare all week to try to win. Once
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  Speaker 7: the game starts, they're gonna try to win. Unfortunately, we've
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  Speaker 7: been hammering this theme for five weeks because this will
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  Speaker 7: be the fifth consecutive game the Jaguars have played where
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  Speaker 7: neither team had any chance of the playoffs, which that
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  Speaker 7: might be a record. I don't know that's ever happened before.
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  Speaker 7: So do they go out and yes, they'll play younger players.
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  Speaker 7: They've been gearing toward that. Jordan Jefferson got in the
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  Speaker 7: lineup last.
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  Speaker 6: Week.
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  Speaker 7: Sounds like Doug still wants to get Tray Princeton there
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  Speaker 7: at some point. I anticipate more of it, because Brian,
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  Speaker 7: this that's all there is.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, let me give you a little different perspective. If
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  Speaker 5: the Jaguars win on Sunday, they'll finish four and two
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  Speaker 5: in the division for the third straight year, which would
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  Speaker 5: be the best three year run in the division. But
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  Speaker 5: the they've had and the reason the division is important
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  Speaker 5: is because it's the surest way to.
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  Speaker 4: The playoffs, right.
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  Speaker 5: But he will be five and one against the Colts
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  Speaker 5: and five and one against the Titans, just two and
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  Speaker 5: four against the Texans.
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  Speaker 4: Again, it's important to play well in the division.
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  Speaker 5: And one of the reasons why I'm optimistic that this
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  Speaker 5: can be a quick turnaround is the Colts don't have
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  Speaker 5: their quarterback and they're aging on defense, and the Titans
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  Speaker 5: don't have their quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what's there.
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  Speaker 5: You lost twenty four to twenty and twenty three to
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  Speaker 5: twenty to the Texans. So the gap in this division
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  Speaker 5: is between you and the Texans, and it's not as
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  Speaker 5: big as it would appear at some moment in time.
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  Speaker 6: So going out and.
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  Speaker 5: Playing well in a divisional game at the end of
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  Speaker 5: the season does matter. It might not matter to individual players,
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  Speaker 5: right let me say that again.
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  Speaker 4: It might not.
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  Speaker 5: Matter collectively to a team that would win just five games,
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  Speaker 5: if that's the case, but individual players, I think that
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  Speaker 5: it would. So I'm all for them going and winning
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  Speaker 5: and playing hard on Sunday because I think that the
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  Speaker 5: division is paramount. It doesn't matter what your record is.
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  Speaker 5: If you win the division, you're in the playoffs. And
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  Speaker 5: that's what we're talking about wanting to be back in
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  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to do our final big thing today, which
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  Speaker 2: is players made plays. We talked a lot about some
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  Speaker 2: of the younger guys making big plays last week in
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  Speaker 2: this game against the Colts, Brian, when you look at
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  Speaker 2: the players that need to step up, who are some
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  Speaker 2: names that you're thinking about this week?
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  Speaker 4: Well, Mason Smith and Jordan Jefferson.
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  Speaker 5: We can never say enough about them because the Jaguars
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  Speaker 5: have gotten better pressure the last two weeks because He's
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  Speaker 5: pushed the pocket from the interior, which makes your big
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  Speaker 5: guys on the outside, Trayvon Walker and Josh heinz Allen
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  Speaker 5: much more effective. I think we've seen enough for BTJ
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  Speaker 5: not to worry about that. How about some more from
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  Speaker 5: Parker Washington and Brenton Strange and Tank big Spy on
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  Speaker 5: the offensive side. It never hurts to see Anton Harrison
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  Speaker 5: play well. Look, the Colts don't have a ton of
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  Speaker 5: sacks this year, but Quitty Pink can come off the edge, right,
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  Speaker 5: Latu Latsu, their first round draft pick, can come off
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  Speaker 5: the edge. The Colts can make things difficult on your quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: So let's see Anton Harrison play well also. And then
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  Speaker 5: I've been banging the drum for Trey Prince. For whatever reason,
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  Speaker 5: he just doesn't get on the Field, but john there's
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  Speaker 5: no reason not to play in this week started for
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  Speaker 5: goodness six. Get him out there, see if he's got
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  Speaker 5: what it takes to play.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Brian took every young player.
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  Speaker 7: On the roster, so uh tend to do that. I'll
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  Speaker 7: go Antonio Johnson. You know, I like to see him. Uh,
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  Speaker 7: You've got to see if he can be a guy
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  Speaker 7: that you don't have to worry about that spot in
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  Speaker 7: the off season.
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  Speaker 6: So adding to Brian's rather lengthy list, all.
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  Speaker 4: Going Antonio Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough, that's a couple of names to keep an
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  Speaker 1: eye on. Stay with us here.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk a little bit more about last
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  Speaker 2: year's draft picks and what's coming up this weekend in Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome you back into jag Zam or first of the
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  Speaker 2: new year, Welcome to twenty twenty five, and we're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about the twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 2: draft picks. Obviously first round draft pick. We're all very
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  Speaker 2: familiar with Brian Thomas junior. But Doug Peterson talked a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about what he thinks the ceiling is for
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  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think the benchmark would have to be a
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  Speaker 8: guy like Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, right, I think it'd
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  Speaker 8: have to be those hypeer receivers, you know, and and
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  Speaker 8: and you know, obviously his rookie numbers this year. We
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  Speaker 8: talked about Randy Moss, who's a Hall of Fame wide receiver,
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  Speaker 8: you know, and not not putting BT in the Hall
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  Speaker 8: of Fame yet, but he's he's on the He's got
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  Speaker 8: at least a start. But I think you got to
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  Speaker 8: look at Justin Jefferson, Jamar and those guys and say, hey,
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  Speaker 8: you know, if he's in that company, then I think
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  Speaker 8: you can continue to get better. And those guys continue
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  Speaker 8: to improve, and their ceiling is extremely high, and their
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  Speaker 8: impact players for their teams, right, They're they're game changers
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  Speaker 8: for their teams and and and that's what we see
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  Speaker 8: Brian Thomas as.
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  Speaker 2: Here Doug bart talking about Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, those
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  Speaker 2: are names you want to hear. And then we've heard
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  Speaker 2: record breaking numbers this week from Brian Thomas, you're hearing
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  Speaker 2: and Moss. Those are all nice names to be situated against,
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  Speaker 2: and the ceiling does seem high because of how quickly
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  Speaker 2: he's been picking things up this year.
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  Speaker 5: So I grabbed him after he did his press conference
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  Speaker 5: just to to do a quick pregame radio interview. And
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  Speaker 5: my comment to him was, my question to him was
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  Speaker 5: you hear all the names, and I mentioned all of
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  Speaker 5: those who do you measure yourself against? Who do He
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  Speaker 5: said me, He goes, I'm not Randy Moss. It's not
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  Speaker 5: fair to put me in the same conversation with Randy Moss.
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  Speaker 5: And those two guys from LSU, Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they've done it at a very high level.
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  Speaker 5: He said, my whole goal is to go out and
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  Speaker 5: be the best Brian Thomas I can be every single Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: And I just I love that that approach, and I
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  Speaker 5: think he can be Justin Jefferson.
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  Speaker 4: I think he can be Jamar Chase.
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  Speaker 5: Just watching that play right there against the Colts, the
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  Speaker 5: eighty five yard touchdown, There's.
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  Speaker 4: No doubt he can do those things. John.
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  Speaker 5: We heard so much about him in Young Athletes, and
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  Speaker 5: you've talked about this. They get by on their athleticism
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  Speaker 5: and they get by on their inst thinks. But we've
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  Speaker 5: been told that his football intellect is so high it's amazing.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's Uh, you don't usually get that sort of
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  Speaker 7: combination of that.
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  Speaker 6: And have it be this evident this quickly.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know where he'll eventually stack up against Jamar Chase,
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  Speaker 7: Justin Jefferson, and then whoever else is coming out the
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  Speaker 7: receiver position. We're in a time where it's becoming clear
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  Speaker 7: that there are gonna be more great receivers. Uh, there's
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  Speaker 7: more great ones coming out. The college game is more
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  Speaker 7: pass oriented than ever, So you're going to get to
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  Speaker 7: a point where most teams have a guy. I don't
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  Speaker 7: know if it'll be better than uh Jamar Chase just
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  Speaker 7: as there's but I know he's got a chance to
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  Speaker 7: be special.
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  Speaker 6: He has.
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  Speaker 7: He has hall of fame traits, right, So I'm not
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  Speaker 7: saying he's a hall of famer.
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  Speaker 6: There's a long road, but.
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  Speaker 7: There's no reason he can't be that because everything you
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  Speaker 7: hear is that we see the ability and to get
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  Speaker 7: to that level of ten year greatness, right, you know
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  Speaker 7: which it takes. Now, you've got to combine it with
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  Speaker 7: work ethic, professionalism, awareness, staying straight off the field, all
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  Speaker 7: those things right, Well, so far, there's nothing to indicate
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  Speaker 7: that this kid isn't special on or off the field.
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  Speaker 7: The way he carries himself, there's a humility about him.
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  Speaker 7: He's the only thing I've ever covered that reminds me
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  Speaker 7: of this is Fred Taylor in ninety eight.
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  Speaker 5: I was just about to say that, you know, you
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  Speaker 5: know what you're watching when you watch Fred Taylor right
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  Speaker 5: when Jalen Ramsey was here. I mean, you knew he
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  Speaker 5: was a special athlete. Tony BISSELLI, Tony Bracken's, Jimmy Smith.
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  Speaker 5: There's been a handful of guys that I believe in
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  Speaker 5: Jaguars history had Hall of Fame ability.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm watching with him.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: The two best rookies that ever covered were Fred and
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  Speaker 7: I covered Bob sam in Indy during a short he
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  Speaker 7: was always hurt.
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  Speaker 6: He played four or five.
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  Speaker 7: Games as a rookie, right, and veterans would go to
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  Speaker 7: the sideline to watch Bob play. Yeah, veterans on defense
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  Speaker 7: go and watch.
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  Speaker 6: Brian Thomas play. There's a magic to the kid.
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  Speaker 5: It's different kind. I mean, you just it's different. You
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  Speaker 5: covered the Patriots with Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's pretty special to see it, and it's
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  Speaker 2: exciting to see him picking things up so quickly as
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  Speaker 2: a young player, because, as we talk about, there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of very special.
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  Speaker 1: Athletes that make it to the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, it's a lot of people that maybe aren't as
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  Speaker 2: athletically gifted, but they're very very smart and they understand
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  Speaker 2: the game. And to see it both in the same person,
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  Speaker 2: that's when you get something special.
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  Speaker 4: I just want to add one thing. His humility. I
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  Speaker 4: mean the way that he stands.
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  Speaker 5: And I asked him after he had done his news conference, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: can I grab your real quick?
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  Speaker 4: He goes absolutely, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean there are so many players that would say no,
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  Speaker 5: I just talked, I'm not going to do that again.
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  Speaker 5: For a young player like that, who has so much
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  Speaker 5: attention on him to go sure, what do you want
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  Speaker 5: to know?
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  Speaker 7: And the interactions in the locker room that we've all
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  Speaker 7: been in there, there's no diva about this kid with
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  Speaker 7: his teammates. His teammates love him, the veterans want to
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  Speaker 7: see him do well. There's no it's h He's got
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  Speaker 7: a chance to have a memorable legendary type career, and
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  Speaker 7: I know we're going way overboard for a rookie, but
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  Speaker 7: when you see that.
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  Speaker 5: It's there and they moved back twice in the first
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  Speaker 5: round to get him, it blows my mind.
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  Speaker 1: It did.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they did, And that's that's one of the good
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  Speaker 2: things that came out of that draft.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely for certain.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about the second round draft pick as well,
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  Speaker 2: because Doug Peterson talked a little bit about Mason Smith
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  Speaker 2: yesterday and we haven't seen a ton of him earlier
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  Speaker 2: in the season, but we have seen him lately and
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  Speaker 2: he's been coming on and we've been seeing flashes. And
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  Speaker 2: Doug Peterson talked a little bit about that.
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  Speaker 8: The fact that he's he's gotten a lot of lot
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  Speaker 8: of time, he's gotten a lot of playing time, you know,
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  Speaker 8: and and continues to improve each week, you know, and
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  Speaker 8: and and does some really good things out there, and
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  Speaker 8: and you know, and that's what you want. That's what
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  Speaker 8: you a guy that the player that that we took,
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  Speaker 8: you know, high in the draft, who you know, we
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  Speaker 8: knew probably as the season started they were going to
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  Speaker 8: be some growing pains, you know, with with that, But
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  Speaker 8: the more he's played, the better, the better he's uh,
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  Speaker 8: and he's he's he's fought through injury this season too,
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  Speaker 8: so he's had to deal with that and and so
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  Speaker 8: you know, for young player, he's uh, he's really come
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  Speaker 8: a long way and and I think on the track
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  Speaker 8: to be a, you know, a good player for us.
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  Speaker 2: So obviously Mason Smith, another LSU product, came out in
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  Speaker 2: the second round that was gonna be a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more of a project. Some people felt it was a reach.
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  Speaker 2: John we didn't see a ton of em early. We've
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  Speaker 2: seen him now in the back half of this season.
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  Speaker 2: What can we expect from him next year after seeing
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  Speaker 2: what we've seen the last couple of games.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, I think you expect a monster year.
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  Speaker 6: I mean it's it's uh.
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  Speaker 7: I don't go overboard based on four starts, but you're
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  Speaker 7: seeing secks and four starts, two sacks, So that would
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  Speaker 7: translate to what about eight or nine over the course.
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  Speaker 6: Of the season.
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  Speaker 7: If you get that out of defensive tackle, you're getting
• 15:07
  Speaker 7: big time production.
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: He was a little bit of a project.
• 15:12
  Speaker 7: But sometimes with a defensive lineman, if you're saying why
• 15:16
  Speaker 7: did't he play?
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: Why didn't play?
• 15:17
  Speaker 7: And Doug petersonsalk, but that's a harder position to adapt
• 15:21
  Speaker 7: to than wide receiver because there's more going on. You're
• 15:24
  Speaker 7: playing against men for the first time in your life
• 15:27
  Speaker 7: who can beat you with You can't win just on
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: your athleticism anymore. It seems like Mason is taking that step.
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: He He's as important to me Brian as the Brian
• 15:40
  Speaker 7: Thomas junior story, because if he's a guy who can disrupt,
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: it gives you three guys up front who matter and
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: that coordinators have to account for. Now you're getting into
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: a number where you're a hard defensive line to handle.
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, he can be a double digit sack guy.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: The Jaguars in there thirty year history had one Garry
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: Walker on the defensive tackle, not a defensive vent.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Here's the thing.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: He's got Chris Jones and Jeffrey Simmons type traits.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: He's tall, he's long, he's powerful, he's disruptive.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean he's going to be that good.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: But remember he was the number one recruit in the country,
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: went to LSU, tore his acl and hadn't.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: Had the opportunity to really be who he could be.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: By the way, both Jones and Simmons had injuries at
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: Mississippi State that cost them draft selection as well. Simmons
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: down at the bottom of the first round and Chris
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: Jones into the second round. So he's got the ability
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: to be that kind of a player. Now again, we
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: talked about Brian Thomas. It's work ethic, it's perseverance, it's
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: staying healthy, all the.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Things that have to go.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: If he is what he's capable of being, well, then
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: the Jaguars have an absolute gem in the middle of
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: their defensive line. We haven't seen enough of it yet
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: this year, but in just glimpses, you can tell that
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: if they turn that on, if they get that engine fired.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: Remember he talks about his dad was an oil field
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: worker and his mom was a doctor. Is both of
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: them are. He's got the background, He understands what work
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: is all about. He talks about it extensively. I'm really
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: excited about his future.
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: I think it's encouraging too.
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: He talked about it publicly and didn't mind it that
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: he wasn't quite doing exactly what he needed to do
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: at the beginning.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: Of the year.
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: Guess what these people are twenty two to twenty three
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: years old. You're in a complete different situation. It takes guys.
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: Different guys get it at a different pace, right, But
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: to me, the fact that he is aware of that,
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: knows and is working toward finding his way to do it.
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: If that stays true, he's if he's being real with that,
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: then I think he's going to be a real force.
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: And again, that gives you three forces up front. That
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: makes you a hard defensive line to block, and at
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: some point this defensive line needs to get hard to block.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point, John. I felt like when
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Mason was making that point about himself, saying I wasn't
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: quite preparing the way I need to be being in
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: the building and that makes this offseason a big deal.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: And also having the self actualization to realize that at
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: his age, because sometimes it takes people a lot longer, and.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: I've known people who never get that.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: But Fred Taylor talked about it after his rookie season too,
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: and he had a great rookie season, but he talked
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: about how he had to get better at preparing, how
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: he ate what he did at night. So the great
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: ones are very aware.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Of what it takes to be great.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, all good signs say, but this we're gonna give
• 18:29
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• 18:57
  Speaker 2: into jag Dan. We're gonna do our best to predict
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: the headlines for Monday today and what we think it
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: will be after the final game of the season. So, Brian,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: when you're thinking about what we're going to be talking
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: about on Monday, what will it be?
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Horsepower?
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: I think this is a tough matchup for the Jaguars
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: because their defense doesn't stop the run particularly well, and
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: if Joe flackos the quarterback, they don't stop the pass
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: very well. And I anticipate we'll see Anthony Richardson and
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor for the first time together, and I think that'll.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Be too much for the Jaguars. Listen, I get it.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: The Colts went in and they laid down like dogs
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: in New York last week. I mean, just what a
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: terrible look for them in the playoff hunt to lose
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: to a team that had lost ten in a row
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: and was playing for the number.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: One overall pick.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: By the way, that's the second time they've done that
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: in the last four years. They got something that's wrong
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: with the DNA of that franchise right now. But I
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: do think that the Jaguars are going to struggle against
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: that combination of Richardson and Jonathan Taylor. And I don't
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: know what the score will be, but I think Jonathan
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Taylor a chance to have another big day.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: I kind of wonder if the Colts will care about this,
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: so just based on what they did last week, and
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: then there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: in the water right now up there.
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: Uh, that's always hard to predict, but it is a
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: tough matchup.
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: If the Colts were in it, I would favor them,
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: except for the fact that they seem lately to lose
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: games at the end of the season that you normally
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: think that teams are gonna win because of motivation.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: So I think the Jags are still fighting.
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: In these last five games they've been eliminated, they've won twice,
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: they've played close.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: In the others, so I think it'll be close. And
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: I think j always figured a way to pull it out.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: So I went with.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: Closing fast and for my guy Dewey up there, because
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: I think they'll have a.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Pick six sixth Calfday last week pick six.
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: I think he'll have a pick six and the and
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: the lasting image of the season will be the four
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: locks going on the sidelines of Lukasolo State.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: If Anthony Richardson plays possible plays, but he throws it
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: like seven times a game.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Well he'll throw to the other guy kid, all right,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: that's also true.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: He can find doing in the flat.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Sure, why not? I am similar too On.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I am going with the I don't know what the
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: effort level is gonna be with the Colts this week,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: so I went with one for the road. For our
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: boy Mac, it's a final win on the way out
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: as he tries to find a new landing spot.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be back here next year. I
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: would love him as a.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Backup, but I don't think that's gonna work out that way.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna try to figure something out somewhere else,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: so hopefully he gets a win. I think that chemistry
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: with Brian Thomas Junior, why not give him the ball?
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Have another good day for him as he tries to
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: finish out his rookie season. So I think that'll lead
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: to a Jaguars win. Let's be optimistic till the end.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna do.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Stay with us. We will tell you a little bit
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: more about what's coming up this week and some Pro
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Bowl announcements.
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• 22:02
  Speaker 7: Jones free Blitzer right which Jones gets it out quickly.
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: Just masterful from Jones as he finds Thomas to the
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: Jacksonville took down.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: It's wow, it's too slow park.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior miked up last week against the Titans.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: He had a great day and doesn't talk all the time,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: but when he does, it's on the field and it
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: is very entertaining.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: So you definitely want to check that out.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Can you imagine what he's going to be if this
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: offense can find another receiver that's consistent for them, and
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: the tight end is back and in a position to
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: spread the field out for him and they play consistently
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: well on offense, which we haven't seen since the midpoint
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: of last season. That kid is going to be so
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: much better than he's been this year. He's been really good.
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: When he saw a couple of times early when Trevor
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: who throws a good deep ball, when Trevor found him
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: it as they were starting to build.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: That Yeah, he's he's we've gone over it. There's we
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: have shows in the off season just.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: About guess I'm sure we'll just be about with Brian.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Some of the the Pro Bowl announcements coming out today,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Brian Thoms Junior was up for that, not named a starter,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: but in the mix in terms of alternates, so depending
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: who decides to go, he may be ending up a
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowler this year as well. But two Pro bowlers
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: we do know from the Jaguars, of course, coming from
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: special teams, we may have many questions about this team
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: at times. Special teams is not one of those. Rosmatis
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Sis second year in a row. He was an All
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Pro last year as well, and Logan Cook making the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: cut as well.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Logan Cook is one of the best hunters that I've
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: seen in thirty years of playing this game. And people
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: will make jokes well Yeah, the Jaguars of needed their punter,
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: and they certainly have in his time here. But his
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: ability to just flip the field is such a weapon.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: If this defense was playing well, people would realize just
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: what a weapon he is. He really can make a
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: huge difference. And you don't want to be using your
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: punter too much, but when you use this one, he
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: can change the game for you.
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's been really consistent at a high, high
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: level for a long time.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: Punters can sort of.
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: It can be tough to get Pro Bol recognition as
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: a punter because sometimes you get it in a year
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: where you shouldn't, et cetera, et cetera. It's hard to
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: be like an eight time Pro Bowl punter. There's so
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: many So good for Logan, who has been really good
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: for a long time. And ross he talks about long snappers. Second,
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: hearing always been the best.
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: In the league. And a Pro Bowl mustache too, by
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: the way, that's low.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's Logan's first Pro Bowl, is it not. Yes,
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: So he's the first Pro Bol punter for the Jaguars
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: since nineteen ninety seven when Brian Barker went.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: So congratulations to Logan.
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: And a word Brian Thomas Junior is the first alternate,
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: by the way, which means a very high percentage chance
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: that he goes. My anticipation is that he will not
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: have to wait for that honor in very many seasons,
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: and he's gonna be there. Trayvon Walker the fifth alternate
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: and Josh Allen the fourth alternate on defense. Again, I
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: think if the Jagg's having a better season, those guys
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: would be higher, But those are the guys that I
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: know about in terms of alternates.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: So we'll keep an eye on that and let you
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: know next week if anything changes in regards to that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Either way. We'll be back on Monday to talk about
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the final game of the season. Joy Weekend, Enjoy the game.