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Mark interviews Steve Forbes, Chairman of Forbes Media. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: More Mark Mark Simone on seven tenor Hey, we're looking
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  Speaker 1: over Steve Forbes. We don't have any How do I sound?
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  Speaker 1: Do I sound nasal? A little yeah, a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It started two days ago. My nose you started running.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's allergies, and yesterday got worse. And then
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  Speaker 1: I'm listening to Curtis, who sounds great in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: but lately he's been talking like that. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: really stuffed up. And I saw him, Yes, I said,
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  Speaker 1: do you have an allergy? Started calling us? This is
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  Speaker 1: a cold? So maybe that's what I have. You hear
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  Speaker 1: that that is really stuffed up. I think that's more
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  Speaker 1: than the allergies. Although they say it's the worst couple
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  Speaker 1: of days of allergies in this week, the worst few
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  Speaker 1: days ever. What happened to Steve Forbes? We didn't find him. No,
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  Speaker 1: something about economists. Something about economists named Steve. They're hard
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  Speaker 1: to find. No, Steve Forbes is the most reliable guest
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  Speaker 1: in the world. Hey, he always tells us about AI
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  Speaker 1: and not to be so afraid of it. But there's
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  Speaker 1: consequences to AI. Remember when the computers took over everything?
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  Speaker 1: Go back to twenty nineteen ninety nine two thousand, all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, everything just went computerized, everything went high
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  Speaker 1: tech and put a lot of people out of work
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  Speaker 1: when suddenly computers were doing everything. And remember back then
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  Speaker 1: they would say to everybody, well, you know you got
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  Speaker 1: to learn new skills. You should learn coding once you
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  Speaker 1: can code, since the computers are taken over. If you
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  Speaker 1: can code software ball, you'll be working for life. It
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  Speaker 1: was a great idea. A lot of people became software coders.
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  Speaker 1: Well there's no more software coding. It's all been taken
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  Speaker 1: over by AI. Apparently that's one thing AI is very
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  Speaker 1: good at writing. When you figure out what you want
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  Speaker 1: to do software wise, instead of having to write the code,
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  Speaker 1: you just let AI do it. And apparently if a
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  Speaker 1: couple of guys wanted to do the coding to create
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  Speaker 1: the software, it could take days. If you put it
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  Speaker 1: into AI, it takes about a second and a half.
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  Speaker 1: So the whole coding industry is pretty much dead. You
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  Speaker 1: don't really need to even think about anybody going into
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  Speaker 1: that profession anymore. So it's a new update for your iPhone.
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  Speaker 1: It's a kinky proug all these it's twenty six to
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  Speaker 1: point four operating system. But if you update to this.
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  Speaker 1: There's one good thing I like on there. When you're
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  Speaker 1: charging your phone, if you're not getting a really good charge,
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  Speaker 1: if it's a slow charge, a warning light will go off.
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  Speaker 1: Tone you get a slow charge. You know, if you
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  Speaker 1: buy those chargers from Apple or Balkan or there's some
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  Speaker 1: really good companies that make chargers, and you know they
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  Speaker 1: cost a little more. And sometimes you go on Amazon
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  Speaker 1: say look at this, Well here's a charger. It's only
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  Speaker 1: five bucks and you get an off brand charger for
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  Speaker 1: your or the not a real high quality cable. Well
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  Speaker 1: the problem is it doesn't give you a very fast charge.
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  Speaker 1: It could take forever. So now there'll be a warning
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  Speaker 1: on those charges. So you know, if you have to write,
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  Speaker 1: oh we got them. The great Steve Forbes, chairman of
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  Speaker 1: Forbes Media, Hey, get his latest book, Inflation. There's no
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  Speaker 1: better book on the subject. The book's Inflation by Steve Forbes.
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  Speaker 1: And of course read Forbes. It's the best at covering
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff. Steve Forbes, How you doing doing fine? Thanks?
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  Speaker 2: The sun is somewhat out and baseball is underway. The
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  Speaker 2: Yankees won their opener, and great basketball. Everyone's rooting around
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  Speaker 2: here for Saint John's. If they can upset the Great
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  Speaker 2: Duke So and the rest of the world, well, not
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  Speaker 2: much we can do about it. But hey, with baseball
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  Speaker 2: what we can baseball?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think of that whatever they call it
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  Speaker 1: ab where it can actually check to see if it
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  Speaker 1: was a striker or not. It can digitally look and
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  Speaker 1: see if was a strike. Doesn't that take the human
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  Speaker 1: element out of baseball?
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  Speaker 2: It does? But inevitably, with the technology, you knew one
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  Speaker 2: way the other that was coming. They've tried it out
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  Speaker 2: in the minor leagues, and the shortstop for the Yankees
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  Speaker 2: made histories, you know, on opening a day in San
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  Speaker 2: Francisco by being the first player to challenge a call.
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  Speaker 2: The computer found that the batter was wrong, so the
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  Speaker 2: team lost its challenge. But and the speed, the key
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  Speaker 2: thing is the speed. So you knew that was going
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  Speaker 2: to come, and we just have to make the best
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  Speaker 2: of it. But it's always fun though in the past
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  Speaker 2: to be able to say, yeah, we lost the game
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  Speaker 2: because lousy umping, But now it's just he didn't play
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  Speaker 2: very well.
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  Speaker 1: We like the fat, dumpy, grumpy umpire and who's who's
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  Speaker 1: the manager gonna yell at? Now? With that thing.
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  Speaker 2: There's nobody to Billy Billy Martin wherever he is right now.
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  Speaker 2: The Yankee manager, you can manager. I think it was
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  Speaker 2: fired ten times the George Steinbrener era and was notorious
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  Speaker 2: for kicking dirt. I think he could have constructed a
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  Speaker 2: building in New York's amount of dirty care out on
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  Speaker 2: the field. And he must be rolling his eyes. Now
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  Speaker 2: what would he do? Who could he yell at?
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  Speaker 1: Hey? Steve Forbes, if the President called you today and
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  Speaker 1: said how am I doing? What would you tell him?
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  Speaker 2: I would tell him that one, we've demonstrated extraordinary military
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  Speaker 2: capabilities in this war with the Iran, and that he
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  Speaker 2: should he should, and the Israelis have done the same,
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  Speaker 2: and he should continue to do what they need to
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  Speaker 2: do to incapacitate the local militias to keep this government
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  Speaker 2: in power. And one of the things I wish the
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  Speaker 2: President would do is make a nationwide address behind the
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  Speaker 2: desk in the Oval Office and not behind a platform,
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  Speaker 2: and explain what's at stake, why we're doing what it's
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  Speaker 2: we have to do. And it may take three days,
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  Speaker 2: three weeks, three months, but it has to be done.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, the American people when you explain something
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  Speaker 2: like that is basically national security. The Mullas were intent
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  Speaker 2: on being bad actors, dangerous actors, destructive actors. After all,
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  Speaker 2: they've killed two thousand of our people. But the American
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  Speaker 2: people will cut them slack. They will put up with
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  Speaker 2: the inconveniences as long as they have a context. But
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately the impression has been given from the get go
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  Speaker 2: this will be sort of a venezuela two point zero. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it may take a few days longer, but it'll be
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  Speaker 2: lickety split. And it isn't. And so the American people
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  Speaker 2: back you if you explain it to them. Just one
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  Speaker 2: thing on that I'm allo to remember. During the Vietnam War,
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  Speaker 2: President Richard Nixon takes oval office. The war is growing
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  Speaker 2: in unpopularity as policy of vietnamizations, they call it growing
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  Speaker 2: and popularity. And he did a nationwide address and bought
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  Speaker 2: time politically to carry out his strategy. Explain it to
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  Speaker 2: the American people. Trust the American people, and most of
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  Speaker 2: them will give you the time to do if you
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  Speaker 2: explain why the job has to be done.
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  Speaker 1: But at that cabinet meeting he explained it for a
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  Speaker 1: good half hour. Then he went on the five yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and for almost an hour explained himself. But I know
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  Speaker 1: what you mean. It's not the same as a formal address.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, if he.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't know and doing then you know, if you do
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  Speaker 2: the formal address and have that context, sober context, then
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  Speaker 2: these updates that he gives, you know, when he goes
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  Speaker 2: into a rope line or whatever or on the five,
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  Speaker 2: then then it's seen as part of the mosaic. But
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  Speaker 2: people have an understanding in which they can put what
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  Speaker 2: he says in context. And so he's got to do
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  Speaker 2: himself in the American people a favor by laying it out.
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  Speaker 2: The American people then put up with stuff if they
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  Speaker 2: know there's a purpose and you've explained why it has
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  Speaker 2: to be done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so hey, Steve Forbes, Moody's has didn't exactly downgrade
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  Speaker 1: New York, but they lowered expectations on New York. What
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  Speaker 1: does this do any actual damage to us?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just underscores the bad trajectory. New York
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  Speaker 2: City has been on for a while, New York State
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  Speaker 2: has been on for a while, and it just gives
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  Speaker 2: proof that change has to come. And I think Governor
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  Speaker 2: Hockel sort of semi recognizes that you can't keep running
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  Speaker 2: the state into the ground. But you have a radical
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  Speaker 2: city council, you have a radical mayor, neo communists, You've
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  Speaker 2: got a legislature that's out of control, and the Democrat
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  Speaker 2: parties run by the far left. And so you know,
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  Speaker 2: Moody's is not a Moody's is like our umpire and
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  Speaker 2: and and and they're calling strikes and where New York
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  Speaker 2: and city and state are striking out. So it's good
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  Speaker 2: because I think it helps change politically the environment where
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  Speaker 2: somebody like Bruce Blakeman, who is a Republican candidate for governor,
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  Speaker 2: may make a change. And one of the things skeptic
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  Speaker 2: should keep in mind is that even though New York
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  Speaker 2: is a city, especially but the state's blue. We've seen
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  Speaker 2: in states like Vermont or New Hampshire they will elect
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  Speaker 2: a Republican if it's just about local issues, not national issues,
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  Speaker 2: but local issues. And that's why I think Bruce Blakeman
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  Speaker 2: has a real chance to do it, because people know
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  Speaker 2: the state's in trouble. So this isn't about tax policy
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  Speaker 2: in Washington. This is about New York State, and so
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  Speaker 2: I think he can win on that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very well. Said, well, Steve Forbes, great talking to you.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody gets Steve Forbes's latest book, Inflation, very important book
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  Speaker 1: and you'll learn a lot reading it. Just go to
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  Speaker 1: Amazon and get the book, and of course read Forbes.
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  Speaker 1: That's great coverage Forbes Media, Steve Forbes, and we'll see
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  Speaker 1: all over television. Thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: Good to be with you. And I'm so glad to
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  Speaker 2: hear those words play ball.
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