Latest / Inside the OSD / S3 E4 - Macbeth: Behind the Scenes Ft. Mike Ducett, Gage Klarich, Syd Shaw, and Willem Dutcher
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- 0:00SPEAKER1: Today we are at the Oregon High School Performing Arts Center to get a behind the scenes look at the upcoming production of Macbeth.
- 0:08We're talking with the director, Mike Ducett, along with a few cast members.
- 0:15SPEAKER2: Welcome to this episode of Inside the OSD podcast, where it's all about the kids.
- 0:20Here is your host, lifelong educator, and our superintendent, Doctor Leslie Bergstrom.
- 0:28SPEAKER1: Thanks for having us today.
- 0:30I know that rehearsals are in full swing, and we're excited to hear how it's been going.
- 0:34Could you start by introducing yourself and refreshing the audience a little bit about your role at OHS and this production?
- 0:42Yeah.
- 0:43SPEAKER3: Hi, I'm Mike Ducett.
- 0:44I am an English teacher here at OHS.
- 0:46Been here for about 20 years, and I have been directing plays and musicals since, I think the 2010 school year here at Oregon High School.
- 0:54So been around the block, so to say, quite a few times here in the theater, at the high school.
- 0:59And I'm really excited to be directing Shakespeare's tragedy of Macbeth, and it's the first time I have brought a Shakespeare play to the stage that I've
- 1:09directed. And so this has been a tremendous challenge in working with this classic material and finding meaning in it for our students.
- 1:17And I think it's been a pretty fruitful, um, experience so far.
- 1:22SPEAKER1: Well, thank you. So without giving anything away, could you give our listeners a little preview of the storyline and what they can expect?
- 1:29SPEAKER3: Sure. It's a tale that dabbles a little bit with the supernatural, as Macbeth encounters a couple of witches who give him some predictions that he will
- 1:38someday become the king of Scotland, and it kind of gets his wheels turning in his brain, along with the help of his wife, Lady Macbeth, who is also
- 1:48kind of equally manipulative.
- 1:49And they begin to scheme together ways to become king and queen.
- 1:53One would be to get rid of the current king, who is King Duncan, and from that point on, their lives never really returned to normal, as they deal with the
- 2:02consequences of their unchecked ambition and power, and eventually the guilt of their own actions undermines them both, in a--in a sense.
- 2:11SPEAKER1: I think that sounds like a timeless storyline.
- 2:14SPEAKER3: It is a very much timeless, timeless tale and a warning about kind of that sense of unchecked ambition and power and the drive and how that can be sometimes
- 2:23deadly and dangerous.
- 2:25SPEAKER1: So one thing I've always admired about our productions is the involvement of students in every aspect of it.
- 2:31So can you talk about some of the roles in addition to the performers on stage?
- 2:36SPEAKER3: Yeah, so we have a very vibrant tech club here at the high school that allows students to take on roles that may be performed by adults
- 2:46in other school districts.
- 2:47So we have a lighting designer and our assistant technical director named Gage Klerich.
- 2:53And Gage is kind of a veteran of the program, and he's designing the light and helping kind of coordinate all of the production aspects in terms of tech.
- 3:02We have students running the sound boards.
- 3:03We have students putting microphones on students.
- 3:06We have students backstage playing stage manager roles in which they're coordinating all the set changes.
- 3:13We have students that are working behind the scenes with hair and makeup, helping other students understand what styles they should be using in their hair
- 3:20and how they should look as they come onto stage.
- 3:22So it's a--it's a way for kids to really get involved in all aspects of theater in a way that may eventually lead to some kind of career work in the arts as
- 3:31well.
- 3:31SPEAKER1: And it certainly could. And if it doesn't, it leads to a really rich experience here at school, right?
- 3:36They can transfer to a lot of things.
- 3:38So that's kind of exciting.
- 3:39SPEAKER3: A very collaborative work environment.
- 3:40It's a--it's a good training ground for whatever career they may focus on in life.
- 3:45SPEAKER1: So let's talk logistics.
- 3:47When are the performances and how can families and community members get tickets?
- 3:51SPEAKER3: Yeah. So we are performing this play this weekend.
- 3:54So we'll be opening on Friday night at 7:30.
- 3:57Uh, we have shows at 2:00 and on Saturday and Sunday, and another performance on Saturday evening at 7:30 as well.
- 4:05Uh, tickets are available if you visit WWW.OregonPerformingArtsCenter.com.
- 4:11Or you can come to the door and buy them there as well.
- 4:14Uh, we do prefer, um, cards over cash, but we can take cash at the door as well.
- 4:19SPEAKER1: Well, thanks for saying that because that's something important for people to know before they get here that night.
- 4:24Right? So appreciate that.
- 4:26And now we're going to turn to some of our, um, some of our students who are a part of this.
- 4:31Um, we have Gage, who is the student lighting designer, Syd is Lady Macbeth and Willem as Macbeth.
- 4:38So thanks for taking a few minutes out of rehearsal to talk with us today.
- 4:43Um, can you please start by introducing yourself, the character you play or the role you play and your history with theater performance?
- 4:50SPEAKER4: Uh, I am Gage Klerich, and I am the assistant technical director and lighting designer.
- 4:56Uh, I've been involved with the high school theater program for four years.
- 5:02I kind of started off working on, like operating the board during a show and have worked my way into designing and then eventually
- 5:12kind of assisting and guiding others in how to design and prepare for running tech for a show.
- 5:20SPEAKER1: That's quite an evolution over four years to have learned all of that.
- 5:24That's great.
- 5:25Willem?
- 5:26SPEAKER5: Hello, I'm Willem Dutcher and I am the role of Macbeth in this performance.
- 5:32I have basically done theater for all four years of my college--or my high school experience, and have
- 5:41basically been acting since I can remember.
- 5:44So like probably, like more realistically, probably around 10 to 11 years I've been acting in just community and outside theaters.
- 5:53And then so this was just a no brainer to join in this production.
- 5:57Wow.
- 5:58SPEAKER1: All right. Thank you.
- 5:59Syd, how about you?
- 6:00SPEAKER6: Hi, I'm Syd Shaw.
- 6:02I am Lady Macbeth.
- 6:04Um, I've done basically every single show we've had here at OHS in my four years being here.
- 6:12Um, it was really excited to do Macbeth because we read it in my sophomore English class.
- 6:16Right. Um, honestly, probably my favorite unit the whole year.
- 6:20Um, it was a really, really interesting story.
- 6:22And there's just so much about, like, all of Shakespeare's work and so many different things you can interpret and analyze in it.
- 6:28And it's really fascinating to me.
- 6:31SPEAKER1: That it's wonderful to hear you talk about it that way.
- 6:34Right. Um, the first performance is right around the corner.
- 6:37So how are rehearsals going and how were you feeling about the show at this point?
- 6:43SPEAKER4: Um, I think they're going quite well.
- 6:46Uh, as part of tech, we don't really get involved until about 2 to 3 weeks before.
- 6:51Oh, okay. Opening night.
- 6:53And so to see, just in this very short time how they've progressed from just kind of running through parts of acts to being able to go through a full show.
- 7:02Um, is quite, quite impressive to watch.
- 7:05Uh, I feel that towards this, this last week as we come towards opening night, they, they've really brought the show together and start to
- 7:14make the vision of what this show should be happen.
- 7:19SPEAKER1: Thank you. How about you two?
- 7:20What do you have to say?
- 7:22SPEAKER5: Uh, yeah. So obviously every, um, every production has its bumps and mistakes in the road, I think.
- 7:30Of course, I speak for everyone when I say that.
- 7:32That's a little bit of an understatement.
- 7:34Uh, but, uh, I, I can also say that when it comes to tech week, a lot of people start coming into their characters and coming
- 7:44into their, like, feel for the performance.
- 7:46Once they add the lights, the sound, the costumes, it
- 7:49SPEAKER1: Makes a difference for the actors.
- 7:50SPEAKER5: It makes such a big difference.
- 7:52It's it's basically the difference between like having an item in your hand and interacting with it, or walking around with levels on the stage versus
- 8:01miming an object that is not there, or walking around on a stage that is not there.
- 8:06So having all those elements together really helps you get into character.
- 8:11SPEAKER6: Yeah, I mean, I think considering like where we were like a week ago, I mean, we haven't had our set up consistently because there's just been so many different
- 8:20events in the PAC and like actually just getting to have it there consistently has been like just like tremendous for how the show has progressed.
- 8:29And honestly, considering that it's tech week, I feel like we're doing pretty good so far.
- 8:34Things are things are like growing exponentially.
- 8:39SPEAKER1: That's exciting.
- 8:40All right.
- 8:41SPEAKER3: So I think both of them would also probably they're underplaying how much work they've had to put in with the lines and the text itself as they have the lion's
- 8:49SPEAKER1: share
- 8:50SPEAKER3: of the text. And while it's not, um, the every word that's in the original Shakespeare play, it's a cutting that encompasses many of the major scenes
- 9:00with the soliloquies intact.
- 9:03And so they've had a lot of memorization to do.
- 9:05And it's been working since day one on really understanding the text and being able to emote through the text and further to remember the text.
- 9:13It's just it's a challenging, challenging aspect of the show.
- 9:17SPEAKER1: Well, how have you two approached that?
- 9:20SPEAKER6: I mean, I have a gap in between dance like an hour long gap between two dance classes on Tuesday nights.
- 9:26So I've been rehearsing in an empty studio, just like at my dance studio, and I'm practicing my lines and my blocking, and I've gone over it with my grandpa,
- 9:35who used to be an English teacher.
- 9:37So that's been really useful.
- 9:41SPEAKER5: Yeah, I have.
- 9:42I downloaded an app right before the, um, well, I guess just at the beginning of the experience and just sort of recorded all the scenes so that like, I had
- 9:52all the lines and everything, so and then I close a lot at my job at Culvers here in Oregon.
- 9:59So while closing, I just had my headphones on and I was listening basically to the whole show on repeat while I was doing that.
- 10:06So I got a idea not only of my own lines, but of the entire text as well.
- 10:13So that was a major help.
- 10:15SPEAKER1: Wow. And you two are illustrating the fact that you are involved in many other things in addition to this, and trying to layer all that on one thing
- 10:24on another. It's impressive.
- 10:26SPEAKER3: Gage, too, has a lot of challenges this last week, so he'll plan cues.
- 10:30Do you want to speak to how you finesse and refine as you go along this week as well?
- 10:34SPEAKER4: Um, so I'll kind of start with just a basic outline of just a general kind of color wash on the stage.
- 10:42And then as we move through Pre-tech and then tech Week, um, it's a lot of changing and adding in effects or spotlights on certain people.
- 10:51Um, just really changing it so that the people stand out from the scene while still incorporating everybody and everything in that scene that still needs to
- 10:59be incorporated.
- 11:02SPEAKER1: That sounds very complex also.
- 11:05So but you have this is one production after another where you continue to learn and grow how to do that.
- 11:11Okay. That's--that's awesome.
- 11:13So, Syd, you mentioned earlier about why you got involved in Macbeth or your the way that the story appealed to you previously, right.
- 11:21Is there anything else about this particular production that just really pulled you in and made you want to be a part of it?
- 11:27SPEAKER6: I mean, I love the community we have here.
- 11:31Um, we've got a lot of really great people who all work really hard on, I mean, everything involved.
- 11:39Um, it's--it's just like a fun thing to do.
- 11:43It's not just like, "oh, this is a really neat show." It's like, "I love being here.
- 11:46This is this is my favorite thing."
- 11:48SPEAKER1: Which is sort of evident in the fact that you have all been doing this from the very beginning of freshman year, right?
- 11:54It's really cool. Anything else to add to that?
- 11:57SPEAKER5: Um, yeah, sort of I, I would agree with Syd a lot.
- 12:02Um, I have been fascinated by a lot of Shakespeare texts for a long time.
- 12:08There's--I have wanted to do a Shakespeare show for a while, and Macbeth was kind of the main one up there.
- 12:16And Macbeth, the character was sort of a dream role for me, just sort of as a whole in my, like, like at some point in my life, I would like to play Macbeth
- 12:24in Macbeth, because that would be such an interesting experience.
- 12:26And I was so excited when it when it was announced last year because I was just like, yes, finally I got a
- 12:32SPEAKER1: dream role and you get it senior year.
- 12:34SPEAKER5: Yeah, it was very meaningful.
- 12:36I was very excited for this whole show, so I've just sort of had this giddy excitement throughout the whole process of just everything tumbling together and
- 12:42looking so awesome.
- 12:43SPEAKER1: Oh, I love hearing that.
- 12:45So, um, what would you say to other students who see this show and are really kind of interested in getting involved, but aren't sure where to start?
- 12:53I'm going to start with you, Gage.
- 12:54SPEAKER4: Um, certainly asking people who are currently involved or even just if it's too late to join whatever current production, um, going to see the
- 13:04show and then afterwards talking to cast and crew members and finding out how they got involved.
- 13:10A lot of times it's not by accident, but just complete circumstance of, uh, somebody knowing somebody else who's in the production and being like,
- 13:20"oh, I'll, I'll join that.
- 13:21It sounds fun." It's a, it's a community.
- 13:23And bringing others in that people know is really how a lot of students will join into a production.
- 13:34SPEAKER1: Either of you?
- 13:35SPEAKER5: I would also like to mention that, um, it's never too late to join.
- 13:40We have, uh, two upperclassmen, two new upperclassmen this year.
- 13:44Uh, Gus, who plays Macduff, is a junior and has never done a production like this before and jumped in.
- 13:52And he's doing a phenomenal job.
- 13:54And, uh, the Ben Josh who plays Banquo is also he's a senior and has expressed always wanting to do it but never
- 14:04having the chance to. So he decided to jump in and is also doing a musical later this year.
- 14:10Um, and both of them are doing a great job.
- 14:12So if you're a senior or a junior or even a like, like, like any anyone can join no matter what grade you're in and can find a great success.
- 14:21SPEAKER1: I appreciate you saying that.
- 14:22Thank you. Anybody else?
- 14:24SPEAKER6: Um, I mean, even if, like, you're not sure if you want to, like, jump into, like, a big production right away, you can always come to drama club or tech
- 14:31club. I'm an officer of drama club.
- 14:33We meet every Wednesday, 4:00 to 4:30 in the choir room.
- 14:37Tech club is on Tuesdays.
- 14:38Till what? 5:00? Till
- 14:39SPEAKER4: 5:00, yes.
- 14:40SPEAKER6: Yeah. Like, just.
- 14:42Just like, dip your toe in the water.
- 14:44Come try stuff out.
- 14:45We do a lot of really fun things.
- 14:47Highly recommend.
- 14:49SPEAKER1: Thank you. Now, you're all seniors this year, right?
- 14:52Everybody's a senior.
- 14:53So what does it mean to you to be a part of this show senior year?
- 14:58And you started with that already.
- 14:59It was your dream role.
- 15:00So here you are.
- 15:02SPEAKER5: Uh, yeah. I mean, it's it's definitely something that I'm very excited about.
- 15:09It's it means a lot to have this, like, this be the final play of my high school years
- 15:18is a dream role that I've wanted to do for years.
- 15:22And, um, just like, uh, a lot of I feel like it's a--it was a similar feeling to a lot of kids who are in, uh,
- 15:32seniors last year during Big Fish or just having this super meaningful, super powerful, like, exciting and like deep show their senior
- 15:41year. And it's a lot of the same feelings with me.
- 15:44It's like this--It's not just like a little play that you're having fun with and it's like the last one.
- 15:49It's like Shakespeare.
- 15:51It's this Shakespeare play that has the ability to move a lot of people and have a message that is very impactful for a lot of people even now, like
- 16:00hundreds and hundreds of years afterwards, like it still has a lot of meaning.
- 16:04So being a senior and being able to like, have this message is very is very powerful.
- 16:10SPEAKER6: I could not ask for a better show for my senior year.
- 16:13This thing is it's incredible.
- 16:15When the cast list came out, I had to like screenshot it and then just like, narrow it down on my name to make sure I was reading the right line because I
- 16:22genuinely could not believe that I was going to be Lady Macbeth for my senior year.
- 16:26And oh my God, it's I love her so much and
- 16:33SPEAKER1: That's so joyful to
- 16:34SPEAKER6: hear.
- 16:35SPEAKER1: Yeah, I love it.
- 16:37And Gage, I'm sure for you, this sounds like it's going to be kind of a dark and moody show.
- 16:42A lot of fun for somebody who's in charge of all of the lighting for it.
- 16:46SPEAKER4: Yes, definitely. It's--it--it's challenging in a creative way.
- 16:51Um, because while still being able to design something that catches somebody's eye without being distracting from the main storyline, and
- 17:01being able to provide that in a way that I can have somebody else run and interpret, uh, my show, my show file, um, is certainly a
- 17:10challenge and one that I'm certainly up to programing for.
- 17:15SPEAKER1: So finally, why should our listeners and community members get tickets for Macbeth?
- 17:21SPEAKER6: If you put a lot of work into it, please.
- 17:23Please come.
- 17:25SPEAKER1: That's great. That's a very good reason, I think.
- 17:28SPEAKER5: Um, another another thing I spoke to a little bit before, but a lot of people would like when they, uh, think of Shakespeare, they think of just like
- 17:38it's super old and it's not something that's super exciting.
- 17:41But when, like, truly like, it's such a timeless, it's such a timeless play.
- 17:48And like, the whether or not Shakespeare intended it to be to take place in Scotland and England and like
- 17:58having kings fight against kings and murder of all sorts of royal ways.
- 18:04But there have -- this is not the first time Macbeth has been, uh, reset in a different time period.
- 18:13And it's definitely something that's worth seeing.
- 18:16If you have seen Macbeth or haven't seen Macbeth to just, like, come and see for yourself, because it's really a lot deeper than some people would think.
- 18:26Face value.
- 18:27SPEAKER1: So what period has it been reset into?
- 18:30SPEAKER5: Uh, 1930s in the Great Depression era.
- 18:34So a lot of, uh, like dust balls.
- 18:38Dust? Yeah, a lot of. I was honestly
- 18:40SPEAKER1: guessing that by your costumes and your hair, to be honest, I
- 18:43SPEAKER6: Yeah, me, Aniyah and Leah, we did the hair and makeup and all of that stuff, and we've been running around like chickens with our heads cut off, trying to get
- 18:51everybody in that.
- 18:52And it's it's actually been really fun just to like, I don't know a lot about the 30s.
- 18:57I prefer the Victorian era personally.
- 18:59Um, just like from an aesthetic standpoint.
- 19:02But the 30s have been really, really interesting just to like research, like what was going on economically and socially.
- 19:08And I mean, even like the clothes and the fashion and the hair is really interesting.
- 19:13And I could talk about that for like two hours if you let me.
- 19:17SPEAKER1: Maybe that's another podcast.
- 19:19That sounds pretty interesting.
- 19:20And I think
- 19:21SPEAKER3: these kids are doing a good job of breaking down the barriers and making Shakespeare accessible to everybody, and that should be a goal.
- 19:26And I think sometimes there's that fear that an audience member is not going to come in and understand what's happening.
- 19:32But I think if you come and you experience it, while you may not understand every word, uh, on stage, that's okay.
- 19:38You understand themes, you understand ideas.
- 19:40And that's really what Shakespeare is about.
- 19:42It's about emotions. It's about feelings, and it's about taking away a bigger meaning from what you've just seen.
- 19:48SPEAKER1: That's amazing.
- 19:49So we're so proud of all of your work and dedication and we're really looking forward to this.
- 19:54Thanks to our listeners for tuning in this week.
- 19:57Performances of Macbeth are this weekend, November 8th, 9th, and 10th at the Oregon High School Performing Arts Center.
- 20:05You can get your tickets online at OregonPerformingArtsCenter.com.
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