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Mac & Bone Hour 4: Should NC State Hire Philip Rivers? · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Allow me to reintroduce myself.
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  Speaker 2: My name is.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Will Pelagic.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it, baby.
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  Speaker 4: Hour four on the Mac and Bone Show. And you
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  Speaker 4: know what that music means. The P-Man is strutting into
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  Speaker 4: the building, ladies and gentlemen, on a game day. Charlotte
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  Speaker 4: FC tonight. Host in Montreal. Can they get a dub?
• 0:39
  Speaker 4: Can they qualify for the playoffs? Can they get that
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  Speaker 4: out of the way? Sounds like Maxie back and Decore
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  Speaker 4: to make his debut, it sounds like. We could talk
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  Speaker 4: about that and so much more. The Panthers and more
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  Speaker 4: with the P-Man. Who joins us? Willie P, voice of
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  Speaker 4: Charlotte FC, and a man that certainly does every damn
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  Speaker 4: thing here at WFNZ.
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  Speaker 3: P-Man, how you feeling?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: And don't you forget it, Mac. And don't you forget it.
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  Speaker 3: I do not intend.
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  Speaker 2: There is no P like game day P.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like we were going to get the
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  Speaker 3: best version today. I disagree. That 3 a.m. P sometimes
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  Speaker 3: comes in handy.
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  Speaker 1: That's more of an emergency scenario.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think?
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  Speaker 4: I'll ask you about the FC game tonight. This should
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  Speaker 4: be three points. Should it not be three points, Pete?
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  Speaker 2: How many times have we said that this year?
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Look, it should be because Montreal is lousy.
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  Speaker 1: Their big striker, Prince Owusu, was hurt. They've only won
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  Speaker 1: six games on the year. They are the definition of
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  Speaker 1: a team that is playing out the string. If not
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  Speaker 1: for Sporting Kansas City, they'd be the wooden spoon team
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  Speaker 1: in the league. So this should be a win. However,
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  Speaker 1: this is a team that we unfortunately have struggled against.
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  Speaker 1: They've only won three times in our history against Montreal.
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  Speaker 1: For some reason, they've been our kryptonite. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if those games necessarily drag into this one. I
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  Speaker 1: think this team will come in highly motivated. They've not
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  Speaker 1: been at home, really, for a very, very long time.
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  Speaker 1: The MLS schedule maker did us no favors. They gave
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  Speaker 1: us two three-game road trips on this side of the
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  Speaker 1: World Cup. And we weren't even a World Cup venue. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, go figure. But somehow that happened. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we get these last two home games in not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: what I would call a favorable scenario. We get a
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  Speaker 1: midweek game, and then we have to play on Halloween
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  Speaker 1: on a matinee. Hopefully people come out there on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Fan appreciation, Dave. We've got
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  Speaker 1: T-shirts and everything. for the fans on Saturday. But we
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  Speaker 1: always know that nothing rocks the bank like a weekend
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  Speaker 1: nighttime contest. So I don't necessarily feel like we got
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  Speaker 1: the best way to finish from our friends over at
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  Speaker 1: the scheduling table at MLS.
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  Speaker 6: What's the current seating layout right now for FC in
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  Speaker 6: terms of the postseason? Where are we right now? And
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  Speaker 6: who are we scoreboard watching? And what area do you
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  Speaker 6: think we may get to seed-wise? Well, we're currently sitting fifth.
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  Speaker 6: Philadelphia hot on our tails, one point behind us. We
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  Speaker 6: got a little favor from New England last week. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 6: it was kind of shared disruption because with New England
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  Speaker 6: beating Philadelphia and keeping them away from us, it also
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  Speaker 6: put New England further away from us, basically tied on
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  Speaker 6: points with second place Miami. So that part of it
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  Speaker 6: is a little bit difficult, keeping us away from potential
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  Speaker 6: to get back in the top four. We are four
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  Speaker 6: points behind Chicago, who is also in the top four,
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  Speaker 6: It's looking very much like that might be the locked-in
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  Speaker 6: spot we might be in unless Philadelphia leapfrogs us. In
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  Speaker 6: terms of sitting in sixth, that might even be a
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  Speaker 6: better matchup for us just based on the fact that
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  Speaker 6: if we play New England, I think New England's a
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  Speaker 6: more favorable matchup than Chicago is just because of the
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  Speaker 6: way we've looked against Chicago this year. But at the
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  Speaker 6: end of the day, you want to be as high
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  Speaker 6: up in the table as possible regardless of the opponent.
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  Speaker 6: So I want to see Charlotte try to get in
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  Speaker 6: the top four. Chicago's got a couple of tricky matchups left.
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  Speaker 6: They also play to Orlando just like we do. But
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  Speaker 6: it's also one of those things where Charlotte at the,
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  Speaker 6: at the very least just has to take care of
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  Speaker 6: their own business. They, they cannot worry about help unless
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  Speaker 6: they take care of their own business. So it's one
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  Speaker 6: of those things where they'll need wins and help to
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  Speaker 6: get back into the top four. They play Wednesday tonight
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  Speaker 6: against Montreal Saturday against Orlando. And then I heard Mac
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  Speaker 6: mentioning that little guy from Argentina. We get to see
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  Speaker 6: him on the last day of the season on November
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  Speaker 6: the 7th.
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  Speaker 3: Will he play? Will he sit out for some reason?
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  Speaker 3: Like what do we think?
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  Speaker 2: Depends on what they need.
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  Speaker 1: They might, they might, honestly sit there and say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: second and third really isn't a big deal. They can't
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  Speaker 1: win the supporter shield that's already wrapped up by Nashville.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that it's at home, I think they actually
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  Speaker 1: have had a little bit more of a protective aspect
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  Speaker 1: of trying to play them at home a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more just because it is a brand new stadium. They
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  Speaker 1: want to get their money for that new stadium in there.
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  Speaker 1: So hopefully we see– actually, I don't know what we
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  Speaker 1: will see because, unfortunately, when we've played without him, we
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  Speaker 1: haven't done well. We actually have done all right when
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  Speaker 1: he's actually.
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  Speaker 2: Played against us. That's true. I want to see him.
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  Speaker 2: I want to see the little guy.
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  Speaker 3: Bring it on.
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  Speaker 4: Bring it on, little fella. So what do you think
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  Speaker 4: about the Panthers? I mean, at the risk of angering
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  Speaker 4: Trailer Park Thomas, who has sent 17 texts asking us
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  Speaker 4: to rip Dan Morgan to shreds today.
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  Speaker 3: He thinks that we have impact on what they do
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  Speaker 3: over there.
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  Speaker 4: He's he wants us to let, let him have it
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  Speaker 4: over there. He didn't make any trades for Quentin Nelson
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  Speaker 4: or DeForest Buckner.
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  Speaker 3: The game was an.
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  Speaker 4: Embarrassment and it was, but I feel like they will,
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  Speaker 4: as has been their form the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like they will bounce back and play a
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  Speaker 4: hell of a lot better on Thursday. Are you ready
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  Speaker 4: to go there? P or can you not get Sunday
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  Speaker 4: out of your mind?
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  Speaker 3: What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's gotta be better than Sunday because Sunday felt
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  Speaker 1: like a, an absolute no show.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, these Thursday night games can go one
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  Speaker 2: of two ways.
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  Speaker 1: Either it can be a continuation of what we saw Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: or we could see a response. And I think this
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  Speaker 1: group is evolved enough to where we will see a response.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know if I'm 100% confident enough to
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  Speaker 1: go there because, again, I looked at how limited that
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  Speaker 1: Buccaneer offense was going to be outside of running the football,
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that Carolina should have known that, whether
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  Speaker 1: they did or they didn't, I don't know 100%, but
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  Speaker 1: If they did know or had some kind of inkling
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  Speaker 1: that they were that limited, one would have thought they
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  Speaker 1: could have come up with a better plan in order
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  Speaker 1: to try and neutralize Bucky Irving. To me, it's incredibly
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  Speaker 1: alarming that that was the way it looked on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: I'm also a little bit concerned about the offensive line
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that against a stout defense that Tampa
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  Speaker 1: Bay is, they couldn't find ways to keep Bryce upright again.
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  Speaker 1: Even when they were at full strength, like this, this
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  Speaker 1: is his full strength that the line's going to get guys,
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  Speaker 1: you know, unless they get Ikea Kwano back, which, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been, I've been hoping for Ikea Kwano to come back.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that, that, that to me sounds like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: will he come back first or will the three Hornets
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  Speaker 1: that were injured come back first?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. It kind of feels like a, or
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  Speaker 2: will Flounder.
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  Speaker 3: Find a scenario where Flounder get a girlfriend? You know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: These are all things that just feel so far away.
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  Speaker 3: We just said we're trying to help the guy one
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  Speaker 3: hour ago. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. My bad.
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  Speaker 4: I forgot we were trying to be positive about that.
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  Speaker 2: Point being, I expect a response.
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  Speaker 1: I do think that the problem that I'm seeing here
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  Speaker 1: is that while we did spend a lot of money
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  Speaker 1: for front-line players on the defensive side of the football,
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  Speaker 1: particularly at the linebacker position, this really was the first
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  Speaker 1: year where Dan Morgan fully made investments in the defensive
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  Speaker 1: side of the football.
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  Speaker 2: And unfortunately.
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  Speaker 1: The thing that's becoming glaring is that there's not a
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  Speaker 1: lot of depth behind that frontline talent. And that's unfortunately
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  Speaker 1: where the Panthers have struggled to try and stop the run.
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  Speaker 1: And in the games where they've not played as efficiently defensively,
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  Speaker 1: where they've had their issues.
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  Speaker 6: William Texter wants to know if you're fully recovered yet
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  Speaker 6: from the beating that caller Johnny gave you at Smoke
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  Speaker 6: on the postgame show on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Johnny didn't beat me.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't do anything. You and Smoke did a great
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  Speaker 3: tag team effort. I don't agree with that. I love that, Pete.
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  Speaker 3: Texter thinks that Johnny got one over on you.
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  Speaker 1: Please johnny's my light work i don't care um johnny
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  Speaker 1: johnny is a frustrated man who thinks he has some
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  Speaker 1: sort of entitlement because he has his name on one
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  Speaker 1: of the the stone panthers outside look i i.
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  Speaker 4: Well that changes everything i'm on johnny's side now i'm
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  Speaker 4: just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: To accuse us of being quote owned by the panthers
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  Speaker 1: that's lame i i have I've ripped the defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: to shreds. I'm not necessarily the biggest fan of the
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  Speaker 1: man who's the head coach. I've said plenty of things
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  Speaker 1: that could be construed as critical in terms of the
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  Speaker 1: way that this team is organized and put together. It's
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  Speaker 1: far from a perfect team. I want them to win.
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  Speaker 1: I want to see them do well. And maybe that
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  Speaker 1: kind of clouds the way that I think about things.
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  Speaker 1: And I try to be an eternal optimist. But at
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  Speaker 1: the same point in time, when it goes bad, I
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  Speaker 1: call it out. It was bad on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Terrible.
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  Speaker 1: It was unacceptably bad. On Luke Keegly Day, that's the
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  Speaker 1: effort you put out? Absolutely it needs to be called out.
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  Speaker 6: Willie, what was wrong with Weatherman Mark on the text
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  Speaker 6: line during the postgame show? He said he was retired
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  Speaker 6: from texting. What was going on with.
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  Speaker 2: Him that day? This is the problem, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Weatherman Mark is taking me out of context because of
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  Speaker 1: what I would say when it comes to a Giro
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  Speaker 1: Evero like, I think you can be of two schools
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  Speaker 1: of thought. You could say that the defensive coordinator is
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  Speaker 1: not working, but firing him now, firing him today, does
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  Speaker 1: absolutely nothing for you because they're either going to put
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  Speaker 1: one of his lieutenants up there and they're going to
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  Speaker 1: run the same darn stuff or it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a complete disaster. You can't make a defensive scheme change
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the year when the personnel you
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  Speaker 1: have to run the scheme is currently on the roster.
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  Speaker 1: If you're going to make the kind of change that
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: people in Panther fans are wanting to make, it will
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  Speaker 1: have to take place in the offseason and it will
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  Speaker 1: have to be seismic. Like you're talking about turning over
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  Speaker 1: a sizable portion of this roster because whether you believe
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  Speaker 1: so or not, the personnel they have is to run
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  Speaker 1: this scheme. It's not like they have the personnel to
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  Speaker 1: run a completely different scheme that they're going to completely,
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: you know, torpedo in the middle of the season and change. If, if,
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: if you want your pound of flesh and as you're
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: ever all getting fired, guess what? You're going to see
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooley or one of the other assistants up there,
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  Speaker 1: and they'd be running the same darn stuff. So I, I,
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  Speaker 1: I understand it's, you know, it almost kind of feels
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: like in baseball when you want to change the hitting coach.
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  Speaker 2: To me, it does nothing.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, I can sit here and say I
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: want to see a different thing on defense, but it
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: probably ain't going to come until next year at the
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: Absolute Sooners.
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you, I really hope Averro does not run
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: that scheme, Bone, where he tells everybody to run away
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  Speaker 4: from the ball carrier.
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  Speaker 3: I hope, like, that's what they ran against Tampa.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, stop it, Mr. Rye.
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  Speaker 7: Mr.
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: Rye, defend Juju Averro.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying it's so funny. Everybody's a defensive scheme expert. Like,
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: listen to what Brenton Buckner said on the show yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Like people like that. Again, if this happens over and
• 10:51
  Speaker 4: over again, a zero of arrow will be fired in
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  Speaker 4: the off season and they will make a change and
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: it will be deserved at that point. But like for
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  Speaker 4: everybody to act like they know exactly that it was schematics,
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: why they couldn't stop the run against the bears. Sometimes
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: your big guys are getting their ass kicked by the
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  Speaker 4: big guys on the other team.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: That happens too. And I agree with that. Well, that's
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: where I challenge people to say. Yes, you could be
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: angry with the coordinator, but don't stop there. Don't stop
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  Speaker 1: short at the coordinator. Say the players deserve some responsibility
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: and culpability, too. I think it's the whole operation right
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: now that's inefficient.
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  Speaker 3: And here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: In between, you know, the three games prior, they had
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  Speaker 4: the third-best run defense in the league in terms of
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: yards per game. So it's like it's not every damn week,
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: but my God, year three of Canales, they should be
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: past games that look like that.
• 11:41
  Speaker 6: They should be passed. That was year one crap, man.
• 11:44
  Speaker 6: They should be passed that garbage. I think we accept losses.
• 11:47
  Speaker 6: Getting your teeth kicked in like that is unacceptable. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: the way they lost, man, is ridiculous. I'll be a loser,
• 11:53
  Speaker 6: but I'm not being a loser getting beat by that much.
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  Speaker 3: No, you don't want to be that big of a loser.
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: I'll be a loser.
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: P-Man, how do you feel about this? Multiple texters are now,
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: since I brought up the Trailer Park Thomas, go after
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  Speaker 4: Dan Morgan because he didn't make any trade yesterday with Colts.
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: We've got people bringing up DeForest Buckner, who I would
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: have been very interested in acquiring because I think you
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: saw on Sunday they could use interior defensive line help.
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: But also, Quentin Nelson, do you feel like Dan Morgan,
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: I feel like we've got to get to the trade
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  Speaker 4: deadline and then judge what he does or doesn't do then.
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  Speaker 4: But did you find yourself upset they didn't give up
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: a fourth trade? or better for Buckner or didn't. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: a third and a fifth for a rental of Quentin Nelson.
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure the Panthers were going to do that.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Seems rich. It's a rich price to pay. And look,
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: my issue is where the Panthers currently sit. I think
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: you have to kind of figure out and get a
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: more firm timeline on when JC and Mike Jack are
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: back to where, okay, that's as close as you're going
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: to get the full strength. So you can fully assess
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: where your needs are because I know that the The
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: knee-jerk reaction is, I'll go out and trade for a corner. Well,
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: you might get two corners back here within a month.
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  Speaker 1: And then you're sitting there with a position where you've
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  Speaker 1: taken away draft assets and basically overloaded a position when
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  Speaker 1: you have other places that could potentially.
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  Speaker 2: Be fixed.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if it comes out that J.C. and or Mike
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  Speaker 1: Jack has a setback, maybe they're not necessarily available until December,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you go.
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  Speaker 2: Out and you make a move for a corner.
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  Speaker 1: So I think, unfortunately, they're having to feel like they
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: have to tread water right now with this position to
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  Speaker 1: at least assess where their greatest needs align. I think
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: their greatest need, like you said, is probably on the
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  Speaker 1: interior defensive line. There really isn't a lot beyond the
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: top three in Lee Hunter to really make a difference
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: in the run game. Still feel like pass rush and
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: outside linebacker could be addressed as well, particularly with the
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: injuries to Jalen Phillips and Thomas Inkoom. And also, you know,
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: a linebacker as a reserve behind Devin Lloyd and Bobby
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: Okereke could be good as well. It's a lot of
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: different things that I feel like this defense could need Unfortunately,
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: it's hard to plug eight holes when you really only
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: have a couple of bullets you can be able to use.
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  Speaker 6: Willie, before you do your swine, can I nominate my
• 14:09
  Speaker 6: own swine right now on the text line? This guy,
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: NASCAR brawl. I thought we were safe. what the celebration
• 14:17
  Speaker 6: of Muggsy Bogues and what he meant as a human,
• 14:20
  Speaker 6: as a player, that era, everything that Muggsy Bogues represents.
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: I thought we were safe in celebrating one Tyrone Muggsy Bogues.
• 14:30
  Speaker 6: NASCAR brawl does not think Muggsy did enough to have
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: his Jersey retired by the Charlotte Hornets.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't do enough.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't do enough on the court compared to what
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: mellow ball.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get out of here.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Franchise impact. No doubt. He's higher than we'll know a ball.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: I just want to hear Josh say his name.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, Marlo. Yeah. Go ahead. Give it a whirl there.
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  Speaker 1: Fitty.
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about a mugsy boat. You ought to be
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  Speaker 3: the one.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, EC, but I'd like Finney to be the
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: one to announce Muggsy when he gets his jersey retired
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: because Finney trying to pronounce that name is classic, baby.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Just classic.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Is that Lancaster English or what?
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Tennessee English. All right. We're not questioning Muggsy. No, get
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: out of here with that. That's Charlotte royalty, sir.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Now, I will say I saw some people angry about
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: the fact that it was Kemba and not Muggsy next,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: but If Dell was going to get his Denver in
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: the rafters, Muggsy was always going to get it.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: It doesn't mean Kemba's not going up there. He will.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: How long did it take for these jerseys to get retired?
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Forever.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: It's overdue, man.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: It's like the Pro Football Hall of Fame. There's a line,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: as Darren Gant would say.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: There's a line. Is that a Darren Gant? It's Darren Gant.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: He does a weatherman mark and a Darren Gant.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Willie P's good, man. People want to hear you do
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: the weatherman mark, Willie.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you guys, I just can't seem to understand
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: why we have this coordinator. Who continues to torpedo this team? P-Man,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: my timbers are shivered. My turbines are all over the place.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: P-Man, I wanted to, before you go, I want to
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: apologize to you. That's very good, by the way. I
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: want to apologize to you. We can't control what some
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: of the mouthy children of our listeners are might say,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Willie P. And we were very hurt last week to
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: read that Coach Kev's son.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Took a shot at you.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: And I certainly do not want any other texters to
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: text in right now and let us know if their
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: children say anything when they hear Willie P.
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: On the air.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: I would not want that to happen again at 704-5709-610.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry about that, P-Man.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: You're such a charitable individual, aren't you?
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: All right, who's your swine?
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: You have the innate ability to make an apology and
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: then completely veto the apology.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: He's one of the worst apology guys in the business.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Because I make you think I'm sincere, and then I just... Yeah,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: he's never been sincere once.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I just want to say to Chris Simms, Have we
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: located your spleen at any point in time here?
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: It might be because your spleen is missing while you
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: continue to have this negativity toward the Carolina Panthers and
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: a lack of objectivity. And, look, I understand that objectivity
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: in this business has probably gone out the wayside. And also,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I don't like Florio. Florio used to be boys with
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: you all, no? Florio's taking shots now?
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: He was.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: You used to pay.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Florio for the pleasure of coming out and spending the
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: morning with you, and now he takes this shot?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Come on, guys. Be better.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: It's annoying. It really is annoying.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: All right, P-Man, you rock, baby. Have a good call tonight.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: So what is the broadcast schedule?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Florio's out there in West Virginia where they just got internet.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: It's okay.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: What's the broadcast schedule tonight, right? Because we got Hornets
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: and FC. So where do we find FC tonight?
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: We are on the blowtorch, the 5,000 watts of beautiful
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: 1079 FM WBT.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Awesome. 1079 WBT. Very excited for that. Uh, happy to, uh,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: to be with you.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Uh, thank you again to our friends over at WBT
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: for giving us the space this evening and hopefully we
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: get a playoff clincher.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Awesome, man.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Have fun tonight on the call. I'll be, uh, I'll
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: be listening, man. Appreciate you.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: We need you in the building. I know, I got
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: to get back there. I think I might wait for
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: the playoffs.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Is that wrong? I'm waiting for the playoffs?
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Mac Jr. is too old to trick-or-treat, so have him
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: come Saturday.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, they want to go out anyway. He got like
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: a pizza slice costume. It's the lamest costume ever. He's
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: a senior in high school, and he wants to go out.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: I know, it's ridiculous. He's going as a pizza slice? Yeah,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: it's a pizza slice, a pepperoni pizza slice. It is
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: the lamest damn pasta.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: If I at 6'3 can look you straight in the face,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: you should not be trick-or-treating.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: If you pull up in a car, you're not getting
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: my candy. That's true. I should ask him. You going
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: to try to drive around door to door? Hey, sir,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: where do I park? How about you park somewhere else?
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not giving you candy.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: We had a dude with a full-blown mustache last year trick-or-treating, bro.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: He's going to walk up and say, can I hold
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: some candy, bro?
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Can I hold some candy, bro? Weatherman Mark has replied.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Tell me that doesn't sound like Mac Jr.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: That's totally ice cold talk. Weatherman Mark has replied. With
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: some vitriol towards you, at least my briskets are not dry.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Oh! God.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: How do we know that your brisket is not dry? No!
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: And we don't necessarily think that mine are.
• 19:43
  Speaker 8: Hey.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Brisket just doesn't photograph well.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: It's fine.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: It's the biggest myth in WFNZ history.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: His turbines are a space.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Though, man.
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: And his timbers are not shivered right now. All right, P,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: you the man. We'll talk to you, P. Be good.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: My timbers are shivered, I'll tell you.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: All right, there you go. Weatherman P is out on
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: that note right there. When we come back, we're going
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: to talk about Dave Doran at NC State. He had
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: the goodbye presser with the media yesterday. And is it
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: Philip Rivers or bust for NC State fans?
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: We'll ask SportsCenter.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: SportsCenter.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: SportsCenter continues. SportsCenter. SportsCenter. SportsCenter. SportsRadio. 92.7 WFN.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: This is the big show. Mack and Bo coming back.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: What in the hell just happened?
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: Maybe I should retire and be a full-time fantasy guy.
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: I made a great draft pick-up. I got some guy
• 20:50
  Speaker 9: named Tucker from the Raiders, and he is killing it.
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: He's making hay every week. I didn't even know who
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: he was. So it's like my big Sweeney family, and
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: they wouldn't let me in it. It's the first year
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: they've let me be in it. And I'm like, well,
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: why can't I be in it? Well, you don't really
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: know what you're doing. They finally let me in it. Yeah, yeah,
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: I'm first place in the league. My fantasy life's pretty good.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: He has been really jolly lately. Who says Dabo's lost it, Bone?
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: He's in first place in the Sweeney Family Fantasy League.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: This man has not lost his touch at all. His
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: team name, the rest of y'all bust. God, that's funny
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: right there, man. He's been like a comedian up there
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: the last couple weeks.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Why is he in such a good mood considering how
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: horrendous their offense is and what an eyesore it is
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: to watch?
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I have a theory on it.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: Is he already maxing in the end and he knows
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: this is it, so he's just kind of enjoying the
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: rest of it now because he's.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Going to end up leaving by the end of the year?
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: So you think he's going to leave on his own,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: you're saying? Yeah, I think so. The only thing is
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: all that money they owe, man. I know. Who would
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: leave that money? I'm just saying, like, he's awfully.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: But it is one. It does make you wonder why
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: he's jolly. He's awfully jolly the last couple weeks.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: It's a loss. They just lost.
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: And he's up there talking about his fantasy. I don't know.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: This is a very, like, almost... How do you explain
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: even how he's been? I'm not going to say, like, goofy, but, like,
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: he's been very just... Almost taking it all in type thing.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: He's been in a way better mood than I would
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: have expected, considering all the heat that's on him and
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Chad Morris, whose whose name he revealed is mud.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: He says, Chad, I know Chad Morris's name is mud
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: around here. But anyway, I don't know. We'll see.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: I just the fact that they his buyout bone is
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: like 60 million dollars. I just I what human being
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: would walk away from that and not say, just fire me.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I dare you.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: You know, but maybe he's just come to terms with it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: It's not what it used to be. I just, I
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: got to roll my sleeves up, but I can't fight
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: it anymore.
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: He said he's excited for the 2014 playoff coming around
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: the corner. Hey, a lot of us should be, to
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: be honest about it.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be at most programs in the Carolinas on
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: a field like 24, maybe.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe. All right, and that leads us into, Boney. I
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: got to be honest.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: Someone says Trey Tucker played at Cincinnati. He didn't get
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: him out of the transfer portal there.
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, bro.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: All right, Fit Daddy, we've got a giveaway for Hornets
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: fans here, and the winner better be a Hornets fan
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: that appreciates the historical and community impact of one Muggsy Bogues.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: The winner better appreciate Muggsy.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Tell us how they go about winning right now, Fit Dog.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Mac, we have two tickets to next Friday's home
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: game against the Boston Celtics. To register your chance to win,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: text the keyword Boston, B-O-S-T-O-N, to 704-570-9610. We'll get you
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: in the hopper. I'll pick the winner out at 10 o'clock.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: An extended giveaway time. Text that keyword to Boston. You'll
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: get two tickets to see the Hornets and the Celtics
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: next Friday.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to lie to you, Fetty.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: I thought we were going into the last segment of
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: the show, and that's why I told you to play
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: the Dabo clip. I completely forgot we've got the NC
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: State segment on deck.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: That was not supposed to play there. Man, we made
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: an adjustment way back in 2009. We go to 10 a.m.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Now. I thought we went to about 930. I thought
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: once I get old, old enough, I could just say, hey,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I think we're done.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I think we're done here.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: You're on the old, Colin wants to do the Scooter
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Rizzuto plan for you, Matt, the old Yankee announcer, when
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: he would leave to beat traffic during games.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently. By the sixth inning. Apparently I'm working on
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: that right now. All right, so let's get to Dave Doran.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: What I meant to say was play Dave Doran coming
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: back here, because we're going to talk about NC State.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Barely out of work for another half hour. All right,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: if you call this work, I'm not sure you should.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: All right, so let's play the clip of Dave Dorrance Presser,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: also funny, where he is giving the business a little
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: bit to the media members who have covered him in
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: his 14 years at NC State.
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: You know, since so many of the media have so
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: nicely and eloquently critiqued me over my 14 years, I
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: wanted to do a nice reporter-by-reporter critique Back to you.
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: I was going to go through your names one by
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: one and put your pictures up and have T-shirts about
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: all of you. But I decided not to do that.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: But maybe later in a podcast down by the river
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: with a bottle of bourbon, that's going to happen.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: That could happen.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Please make that happen. make that happen. Hell, Joe Ovias
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: even asked on Twitter, can we make this happen? Can
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: you critique all.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: Of us at some point? I think he's just going
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: to ride off into the sunset. He's not going to
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: be a media guy, of course. I don't think he
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: really feels like he has the energy to coach. I
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: think Dave Dornbeck literally just wants to float down the river.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: Just let him be, man.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: He mentioned the river and fishing and the mountains. He
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: mentioned being a state fan for life and someday I'll
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: be out there tailgating with you Wolfpack fans. Like, He
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: did not sound, to your point, Bone, like somebody that
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: necessarily is coaching anymore. And if he doesn't coach, it
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: makes me wonder if the retirement talk was really something
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: that he was thinking about.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Because it's not like, Bone, he's too old to coach, right? Like,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: how old is Dave Dorn? In his 50s still, right?
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Am I right to say that? Yeah, yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: He's not in his 60s by any means. He's not.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: He's 54. He's one year older than my old ass.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: And you're not floating down the river anytime soon.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: No, although I am trying to stop the show at 930.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Although we are trying to get you to float down
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: the river. That sounds like we're trying to kill you. Hey, now.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: So he could coach again. It's just the way his
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: tone of his presser made me think. Like you're saying,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: I wonder if he really doesn't want to anymore. Let's
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: talk about the NC State situation and where they go
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: from here, Bone. And I want to hear from state
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: fans on this. Like, it almost feels like with Wolfpack Nation,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: it might be Phillip Rivers or Bust. Now, when we
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: had on Tim Donnelly from 99.9 The Fan last hour,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: he said it's very hit or miss. He says there
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: are people that love the idea of bringing the legend
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Phillip Rivers back, and he and Gunnar team up, and
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: he coaches the team. He said there are people that
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: hate the idea and think he will be the football
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: version of Sidney Lowe. like who is hired on reputation
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: and accomplishments and, and not what not actually experience that,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: that should get you the job. So I want to
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: know how state, it almost feels to me though, bone.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: And y'all tell me if I'm wrong, state fans, it
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: seems like most of the state fans that we've heard
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: from are all about Phillip rivers, almost to the point
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: where I don't even know if they want to address
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: other names.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: And it's a very complex situation because I think that
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: it can work. But would it not be a very
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: NC State bleep situation, Mac, where it doesn't work? And
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden it's like Chris Mullen at St.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: John's or Pat Ewing at Georgetown, Jawan Howard, Michigan. There's
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: a lot of examples of the legends that go back
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: to where it began for them, and it doesn't work.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: And it strays the relationship that you have with the legend.
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: And it gets awkward when it doesn't work because then
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: you got to make that decision of, oh, we're Georgetown.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: Pat Ewing's not working out. Now what do we do? Oh,
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: Chris Mullen's not working out. Now we have an awkward
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: situation here where we have to fire one of the
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: most known players in program history. And that affects the
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: long term of that whole thing.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and his son being there also complicates the dynamic.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: But I can also see a path where, uh-oh, now
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: this isn't working.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: What if Gunner's no good? And what if people are
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: going off? Phillip, you've got to bench your own son.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: So there is a downside to this, and that's why
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: I'm curious. It's a very— entertaining hire, right? Like they'll
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: win the press conference.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: They will.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: The reason, the reason I, cause I'm going to be
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: honest with you. Normally I would look at the, I
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: hated the Sydney low hire. I normally, I would look
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: at a situation like this and I would feel like
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: he's not qualified for the job.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: He's a Wolfpack legend and his son's going there, but
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: he's not qualified for the job. The fact that we
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: were in an era bone where raising money might be
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: more important than ability to coach them up. Like that's
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: the reason why I'm pretty open to this is because
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure they could hire anybody that the donors
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: will throw money at.
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: Bo.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Like he's a dancer at a strip club. They're going
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: to be throwing, they're going to make it rain. You
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: already saw Andy Albright, the big money donor, tweeting out
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: pictures of him and Phillip.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Sweaty Bettys. Him and Phillip Rivers on a plane. Sweaty Bettys.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Is that what you call the dancing ladies? Oh yeah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: We don't talk about what happens at Sweaty Bettys. Oh,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: is that a club?
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that. You've never been to Sweaty Betty's?
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Sweaty Betty's. Is that, are they all 65 and over,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: the dancers at Sweaty Betty's? Oh my God. So bone,
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: do you think it's like, are you against it? The
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: way you were talking and bringing up like this, if
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: it gets ugly, it's one of your beloved guy. Like,
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: or are you just pointing out that it's far from
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: a slam dunk? Like, are you against it?
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: It's far from a slam dunk. And you also don't
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: know Phil Burbers as a college coach. Is that their
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: best idea to go with him?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Money wise.
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: Love of the school and all those intangible things, that
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: works out there. Or do you need to go find
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: your Manny Diaz, your Jake Dicker? Do you need to
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: go find a guy that's already been coaching in college
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: that can elevate the program and already knows.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: How it operates in this era?
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: This is not a normal era of college football either.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: Not everyone can handle it. The NIL, the portal. There's
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: no way to know how he does. It's one thing
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: coaching high school kids and just the actual games and
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: doing that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: So are you against it? Are you saying I would.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: Say I would rather if I'm NC State, I'd rather
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: go for someone that's already coaching the college games.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: And that's my question.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: If it's not Philip Rivers, because I'm not really seeing
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: many names other than Philip Rivers from state fans. I
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: could be wrong about this, but like it almost feels
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: like they have their feet.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: It feels like a lot of state fans just have
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: their heart set on the Philip Rivers idea and aren't
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: considering some of these other good candidates.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: Why not bring up Philip Rivers as the GM? There's
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: been some talk about that that makes a lot of
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: sense there and then you could just keep bringing in
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: your kids there has been talk about that is could
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: he be the gm and somebody says hey he could
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: hire gunner's coach um 704 says rivers just say no
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: can't name one great college coach who never coached any
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: college ball well the guy he's being compared to is
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: trent dilfer Trent Dilfer coached high school ball, went right
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: to college at UAB, and it was horrible. Now, again,
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: I go back to the Phillip Rivers fundraising aspect of this.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: Trent Dilfer wasn't anybody at UAB, right? Phillip Rivers is
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: a god at state. But, hell, could he not.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Fundraise for you and you still make money off his
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: name and who he is if he was the GM?
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: Hell, the team that just beat you has got their
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: former quarterback there as the GM, Andrew Locke.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a perfect example. And by the way, I
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: know we were ripping them last week while picking NC State.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Don't look now. Isn't Stanford 4-4 right now?
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: They are.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Like Andrew Luck's doing work, man. They are.
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: Actually, I thought Cal was further ahead than Stanford was.
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: Now I'm not really so sure anymore about that.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: After Cal gave up 42 points in the second half
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: to SMU.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: That's our ACC West Coast Bureau update.
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: It's still weird, man. It's still weird.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Um, I like the, if you're not going to, uh,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: first of all, I would definitely try to look into
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Jake Dickert. I would be surprised if he went there about,
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: but you said they got to find their Jake Dickert.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I would actually through back channels, find out if I
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: could have Jake, the actual Jake Dickert, I would kind
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: of think he wouldn't make a move for that, that
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: that might be, you know, rival in state.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: He might not want to do that to Deke nation.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: I like Charles Huff.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: I think if you don't go the Philip Rivers route,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: which I get why it's sexy, Charles Huff just wins
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: wherever the hell he goes. Now, he has gone literally
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: to three programs in three years. But wherever he goes,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: he wins. And here's the thing that you look at, Bone,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: with an established coach. Jake Dickard is one, as an example,
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: he brought some guys with him from Washington State, right?
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Guys seem to be able, Cignetti, right? Guys, Chesney, guys
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: seem to be able to hit the ground running in
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: the portal era when they can bring a ton of
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: their players with them.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: That's very true.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And that's what Charles Huff did when he went
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: from Southern Miss to Memphis. And he did it when
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: he went from Marshall Southern Miss. Could he take some
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Memphis players and get off to a pretty good head
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: start there? I think he's a pretty damn good head coach.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: The other idea would be, I think, the coordinators.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Schumann at Georgia. I like Shannon Dawson a lot at Miami. Yeah,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: he's getting late to the Baylor job a little bit here.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: They mentioned him for State, too. Well, the Baylor job
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: I thought was going to RG3. What if RG3 gets
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Baylor and Phillip Rivers gets NC State?
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: It'd be crazy.
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: The other guy, Matt, that's going to get some run
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: at some point is the job that Jamarcus Shepard is
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: doing from Oregon State.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: That offense is fun, man. And I say that, and
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: it sounds crazy. Like, Oregon State to NC State. Well,
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: look what Wake Forest did. They went to Washington State.
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: And the reason I bring that up is because if you–
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: the school that would hire Jamarcus Shepard, are you bringing
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: the wide out– is the wide out coming with him?
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Jesse Legree. He has better stats than.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: He's on pace for– You're Smith from Ohio State.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Why can I not name the Ohio State receiver? Yes.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: He had better stats than him. The only freaking human
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: in college football alive that can say that. Yeah, Jeremiah Smith.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Jeremiah Smith. Why could I not come up with that?
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: He's on pace for 2,000 yards and 30 touchdowns. And
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: there was a thought that he called a presser last
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: week to announce he was returning to Oregon State, knowing
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: that the coach was going to leave.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: And that's going to be his outlook.
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: Whenever the portal season happens again so he'll be a
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: big time guy in the portal whenever he gets.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: There see if it happens no doubt about stuff tk
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: high point says i'm a state fan and absolutely think
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: it'd be a belichick like bleep show with philip rivers
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: as the coach tfb says is brian kelly interested in
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: the state job he gonna get that carolina accent down
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: bonnie I hope he doesn't try to just use his
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: whole family from LSU. You've got to try to change
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: the Bayou to the Carolina accent, Brian Kelly.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: That's one of the funnier trends on social media right now.
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: Whenever a job comes open, a video will post of
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Brian Kelly interviewing for a job. It'll be like a
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Maryland dialect. Or it's different accents that he's going to
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: have to put on.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Wherever he goes.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's hilarious. I, for one, want no part of
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Brian Kelly at NC State. No part whatsoever. I thought
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: he did a pathetic coaching job at LSU. Like, absolutely pathetic.
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: He did.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: I also think he's a terrible human being, and I
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: would not want to pull for this man at all.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Mac, I've got shocking news for you on the way back.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Guess what that is. What's that? We're on the way back.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: The show didn't end yet.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: Oh, baby, we got one more. Now we close it down, baby.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: Now we close her. It's the wrap-up. Busy night in
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: Charlotte sports. We got the Hornets and FC both going tonight.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: We'll preview that. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: Just side note on the Hornets heat game, Charles Lee,
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: one of his the coach of the Hornets, one of
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: his play calls, one of the symbol, one of the
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: symbols he uses for a play call is an air guitar.
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: He was strumming an air guitar to call some out
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: of bounds action. And I was like, I don't think
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: I've ever seen that before. A musical instrument as a
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: play call. And I think you got to start going
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: all the way, like start slapping the bass a little
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: bit for another one. The drums like get the cymbals involved.
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: And what other shake a tamp like take tambourines a
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: little tough. You just like shaking it. I like the
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: idea of him going all in on just the musical
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: like a you could play a saxophone, play.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Like play a little horn.
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: And just just I think you should go all in
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: on this.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: It would make the Hornets even more delightful. There you go.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Zach Lowe likes the Charles Lee air guitar strumming. I
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: have not noticed this, Bone, while watching the games. I
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: have not noticed him strumming the air guitar.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I will now.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: I need to watch it, baby. I need to watch
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: that out. So Zach Lowe is still very— finds the Hornets
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: delightful on his podcast. And Bill Simmons— is impressed with
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: the 3-1 start despite the guys we're missing, despite the
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: shooting struggles, and has announced, Bone, he thinks it's.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: A playoff team, baby. So we have not lost. The
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Lomelo trade has not cost us. It might have cost
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: us a texter or two, Bone.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: And maybe a season ticket holder or two over there,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: but it has not cost us Bill Simmons and Zach Lowe.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: Our guy Owen O'Connor, NBA writer, beat writer for the
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: Hornets on SI, Elon Gratt, our guy there. He was
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: tweeting out yesterday the highlight reel of Charles Lee when
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: Bucknell beat Kansas in the NCAA tournament. All Charles Lee
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: highlights of when he played college ball.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: It's pretty cool.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, nice. Getting after it, man. I like it. I
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: like it.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: I like it a lot. I'm going to have to
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: check those out.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: P.J.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Fleck, his name is coming up on the text line
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: for NC State. I would love if they could do that.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Would he leave Minnesota for State?
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: Uh, it's hard to tell Mac who would leave. I
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: know that Minnesota is not the highest team in the
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: big 10, but leaving the big 10 and sec, it
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: feels like when you have one of those jobs, like
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: you're trying to hang on to those for dear life
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: right now.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: I think state though, the ACC futures in doubt. That's true.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: That's a part of the state is not one of
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: the coveted ones.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Like a Carolina or a Virginia are.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: That's a good point because my initial thought is, Bone,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: that a place like State's a pretty damn good job.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Look at James Franklin.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: You go to NC State with the 2014 playoff probably
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: on the way, and you get backing financially? That ACC,
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: that conference is begging teams to step up and be
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: the second and third team in a 2014 playoff.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: Someone's asking about Jeff Traylor, the head coach at UTSA.
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: He's doing a phenomenal job. Very interesting name. He's actually
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: coaching Josh McCown's son still.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Not home to McCown. He's having a nice season. Doing
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: a very good job there. Not young. He's 58.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: But I think he's... He's kind of tied into those
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: Texas and Southwestern jobs. I could see Baylor going after
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: him as well.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Who knows? It's a good idea. I just don't know.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he would come here or not.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: All right, let's see what we got on the text line.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: I do want to mention sports tonight. We got a
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: double dose. Hopefully it will not be a double boo situation,
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: but I guess the Hornets are on the road. Hornets
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: at Detroit tonight. And you and KB got the pregame.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: That's a 7 o'clock, right? That is a 7 o'clock
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Eastern time.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Okay. Game, 6 p.m. pregame show.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: And we've got over on W... It's my best hour
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: of the day, honestly.
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: Good.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Because you don't have to work with me. I can
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: see how that would work for you. I'm alive.
• 41:02
  Speaker 9: I'm alert.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: I'm a.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: I'm esteemed. That's the thing is you magically become esteemed
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: on that show. Why do you ever call me esteemed?
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Maybe I'll start doing that to make you feel more appreciated.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: I like it once in a while. Willie and Anna
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: got the call for Charlotte FC tonight. That's at the bank.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: If y'all want to head over there and watch them
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: potentially clinch a playoff spot with a win or a
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: draw against Montreal. That one's over on WBT 107.9 tonight,
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: 7 o'clock pregame, 730 kickoff. Let's read some of these
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: texts and see what we got.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Here, Boney.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: So people are weighing in. There are people whose children
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: love Willie P. One texter says, my daughter met Willie
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: P and loved him. Another texter says, my six-year-old loves saying,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: along with Willie, this is your Charlotte FC minute.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: So there you go. Not all kids.
• 41:48
  Speaker 9: Hey, guys.
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: Not all kids are like Coach Kev's kids. He's a
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: polarizing figure with children.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: He is. He is.
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: It's like when children, you know, they get their, you know,
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: the ones that have the opportunity to see the Easter Bunny. Right?
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: Some are drawn to the, oh, my goodness, this Easter
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: Bunny is amazing. And some are like, whoa. Some are scared.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Whoa, this guy.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: I don't know about this Easter Bunny. I was one
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: that was a little scared of the Easter Bunny. I
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: feel like every kid at some point is scared of Santa.
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: Like every kid at some point. And yeah, you're right.
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: Like Easter Bunny or mascots. I've seen mascots scared the
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: heck out of kids if they're the right age.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Let's see. Weatherman Mark says, good grief, Willie, you Yankee.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: Weatherman Mark just said in a 30 second audio piece.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Go check out, see what he's saying on there. Somebody says,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Willie P, Chris Sims here. You're a big old wussy cat.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Willie P joined the, uh, large legion of charlatans bashing
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: Chris Sims earlier today. Um, bagel guy says, uh, that
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: caller Johnny's name is on a stone at the stadium.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: All right. It's located above a urinal in a bathroom.
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: Matt Ducate wants to challenge me. to the pit contest
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: this week since you lost last week okay oh i
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: don't know if he can handle you do i.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Have to be the one that ends picante this week
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: why does he want to tempt fate he got his
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: segment back and now he wants to put it on
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: the line again they call me the career killer i'm
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: killing my own quite a bit over here are you
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: gonna go you're gonna go carolina reaper.
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: On him i think i have to put picante away
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: i'll do it i don't want i love him but
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: it's over.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Man I mean, Picante, beating me, that's true, though. Step
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: up in competition.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Beating me in a picks contest, Bone, is essentially like,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know, an NBA team playing a G League team.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: You went from the buy-in game to the big time.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: No offense. None taken at all, sir. It's out of love.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: None taken at all.
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: U.S.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Marine Corps Dave wants to know where Sweaty Betty's is located.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: He's very intrigued, Bone.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: It's down the street.
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: It's not like a place I would just make up
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: or anything like that.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: It's just finally dawning on me and all the listeners
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: that that is not a real men's establishment.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: You don't know that. We're a little slow here, Bo.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: Those that experience sweaty beddies don't talk about sweaty beddies.
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: All right. We got to get out of here, y'all.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Good work out of the bone man, the fit dog,
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: hoping for FC and Hornets dubs tonight. Either way, we'll
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: talk about it tomorrow. And tomorrow is a game day
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: edition of Panther Nation for Panther Nation on the Mac
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: and Bone Show.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: So have your minds right tomorrow, y'all.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Colin Hoggard, Charlotte Sports Today is coming up next.