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Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 3-19-25 with Doc, Suzi, and Bill · Dave Kroupa (DOC)'s show

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  Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to doctor Cripus Natural Health Ours. We've got
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  Speaker 2: Bill Susy, myself and Steve are technical producer, all on Skype,
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  Speaker 2: One of the things we're going to talk about is
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  Speaker 2: what do you do when you're taking a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: pharmaceutical meds and you decide I want to go the
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  Speaker 2: natural healthcare route. So we'll go down that road. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: first off, Susie and Bill, you want to say hello,
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Susie, Hi, everyone.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: And he's the one in the feet and dragging him
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  Speaker 2: so I don't know. This week, guys, we had Spain, Australia, Canada,
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  Speaker 2: United States, Israel, and UK and somebody I'm forgetting, somebody
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  Speaker 2: else I'm forgetting. Anyway, we had like six or eight
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  Speaker 2: nations tuned in and it is such an honor, ladies
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  Speaker 2: and gentlemen, when you guys do that, We really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Knowing that you're there, whether you're listening live or after
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  Speaker 2: the fact, that that's pretty cool. We are the network
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  Speaker 2: that does not say right and left. We say right
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  Speaker 2: and wrong, and we do not say conservative and liberal.
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  Speaker 2: We say common sense and delirious. So no doubts there.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of where we stand. We try to say
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  Speaker 2: out of politics, but sometimes politics just will not stay
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  Speaker 2: out of healthcare, so we bring it up when we
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  Speaker 2: have to. So, as I was talking, this week was
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  Speaker 2: perfect because I had two people that are good friends
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  Speaker 2: that reached out to me that I hadn't talked to
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  Speaker 2: in years, and both were having some issues and both
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  Speaker 2: on medicines from the pharmacy and both willing to go
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  Speaker 2: a different road and ask me to help out. And
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  Speaker 2: I volunteered gladly because I want to make a difference.
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  Speaker 2: And I reminded them that you know, what they're doing
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  Speaker 2: is only making the situations probably worse, So it was
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  Speaker 2: up to them. And then what happens a lot to
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  Speaker 2: me is people will come to me and they'll ask
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  Speaker 2: two things, what do you have for this? And am
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  Speaker 2: I supposed to quit taking everything? Or what do I do? Well?
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  Speaker 2: The first question is I don't have anything for anything
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  Speaker 2: until I know what you're even talking about. I need
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  Speaker 2: to know about you, what kind of things you are taking,
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  Speaker 2: what have you done, how you're feeling, tell me what's
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  Speaker 2: going on, make me look real smart by telling me
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  Speaker 2: everything your body's telling you. And then as far as
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  Speaker 2: what you're taking when you come to me, if it's
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  Speaker 2: from the pharmacy, I didn't give it to you. I
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  Speaker 2: can't make that decision. It always works better if you're
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  Speaker 2: not taking anything but the products that you and I
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  Speaker 2: agree on, because then we know the playing field, and
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  Speaker 2: I've had so much better results doing that. Every time
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  Speaker 2: people decide to google doctor are a family member told
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  Speaker 2: them to do this, or they saw it on TV
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  Speaker 2: or the internet. It gives us fits and it usually
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  Speaker 2: holds us back. But every time that they give me
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  Speaker 2: a chance and put their faith in me, and we
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  Speaker 2: only do the products I'm talking about, I've seen good things.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes we have to switch gears, try something different, but
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  Speaker 2: the feedback makes a big, big difference. Some people don't
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  Speaker 2: get well, and they forget to tell me that they're
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  Speaker 2: taking things that don't let them get well, So that's
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  Speaker 2: always a problem. I think I've said this before. During
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  Speaker 2: the pandemic phoniness and craziness, I had a family of three,
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  Speaker 2: mom and dad and the adult son, and they just
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  Speaker 2: happened to all be together one weekend and all got
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  Speaker 2: sick at the same time. Well, the mother and the
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  Speaker 2: son both responded pretty quick and got a lot better,
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  Speaker 2: but the father was he thought he was dying, and
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  Speaker 2: the wife said, I'm so tired of talking to him
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  Speaker 2: because he won't listen, so she said, do what you can. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I got to talking to him and it turned out
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  Speaker 2: he was doing what he thought was vitamin C a
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  Speaker 2: thousand milligrams of a scorbic acid which is not natural,
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  Speaker 2: which is synthetic, and that was causing some problems, and
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  Speaker 2: he was doing ivermictin And I said, why are you
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  Speaker 2: taking a medicine from the pharmacy that was designed to
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  Speaker 2: kill worms and parasites and a hearse? He said, well,
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  Speaker 2: I read on the internet that it was good and
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  Speaker 2: it would work. I said, well, yeah, it might work.
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  Speaker 2: It might make you a very inhospitable host, but it's
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  Speaker 2: bad for the horse. It's bad for you, and I
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  Speaker 2: would have never recommended it. So anyway, he quit the
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  Speaker 2: ivermect and he quit the scorbick acid thousand milligrams and
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  Speaker 2: went Within a few days his wife called and said
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  Speaker 2: he's better. So that that was the kind of thing
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  Speaker 2: that I run into a lot, and I like to
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  Speaker 2: like just recently, I had somebody that I hadn't heard
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  Speaker 2: from in a long time, and they said this, this
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  Speaker 2: and this happened, and I, of course google doctor did
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  Speaker 2: and looked at YouTube and it said do this, and
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  Speaker 2: he said, what do you recommend? What do you think
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  Speaker 2: about that? And oh, by the way, I'm doing these
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  Speaker 2: two medications. Well, the one medication was to make sure
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  Speaker 2: your blood doesn't that's bad, that can cause a lot
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  Speaker 2: of internal bleeding. And the other one was a statin
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  Speaker 2: to shut down the liver's ability to make cholesterol. Not good,
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  Speaker 2: not good at all. And then I get the question,
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  Speaker 2: after I made my recommendations, I assume that these aren't
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  Speaker 2: going to interact with the pharmacy meds. I'm already taken.
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  Speaker 2: This is a pretty nice guy, pretty smart guy, And
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  Speaker 2: I said, I'm always amazed how people will take a
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  Speaker 2: poison that doesn't belong in their body, no questions asked,
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  Speaker 2: not worried at all, and then question me on whether
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  Speaker 2: or not there's going to be any problems taking something
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  Speaker 2: natural that belongs in your body. Reminded him that there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of side effects, direct effects that our friend
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  Speaker 2: Richard used to call him, and I said, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: give it to you, no matter what. I still have
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  Speaker 2: a conscience, and no matter no amount of money, could
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  Speaker 2: make me give you that stuff, but whether or not
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  Speaker 2: you take it, that's your call. I can't tell you
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  Speaker 2: that now. The other two people that contacted me this
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  Speaker 2: last week, one said he wasn't going to take any
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  Speaker 2: of the other stuff, and I know he was struggling
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  Speaker 2: because somebody else contacted me and said he was in
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  Speaker 2: a lot of pain. What can he take. Well, we've
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  Speaker 2: got a few things you can take for pain. But
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  Speaker 2: I said, you know number one. They text me at
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  Speaker 2: like two o'clock in the morning, and I said, you
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  Speaker 2: cannot send me medical text It's illegal. I'll lose my license.
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  Speaker 2: It can't be there. And secondly, I can't talk to
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  Speaker 2: any body about another patient without that patient's form will approval.
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  Speaker 2: So even though you care about somebody, you cannot send
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  Speaker 2: me a text or give me a phone call or
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  Speaker 2: an email and think that I'm going to acknowledge anything
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  Speaker 2: because it could be a trick. I don't know what happened,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm not going to go down that road. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: they're all letting me help. Sometimes it's really rough. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: just starting in the beginning when they back off of
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  Speaker 2: medications is a bad thing for their body. It wants
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  Speaker 2: to protest. Sometimes people quit everything cold turkey and have
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  Speaker 2: no problems. A lot of people say, well, if I
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  Speaker 2: have any issues, what do I do? And I say, well,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to quit, you can back off slowly,
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  Speaker 2: then that'll work too. So my advice to them always is,
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  Speaker 2: I think we will do better if you weren't taking
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  Speaker 2: anything else. But I can't decide that for you. You
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  Speaker 2: have to make your own decisions. And I am so
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  Speaker 2: grateful that every time they've made the decision not to
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  Speaker 2: take anything else, whether it was over the counter, internet,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the grocery store, the health food store, or
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  Speaker 2: the pharmacy, they always got better, quicker and easier, with
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  Speaker 2: less trouble. And I've never had anybody really have any
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  Speaker 2: trouble getting off things. Usually the body is pretty grateful.
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  Speaker 2: You know, say you have liver and kidney issues, Well,
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  Speaker 2: when they start loading you up with these medications, the
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  Speaker 2: body has to work very hard through the liver and
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  Speaker 2: kidneys to get rid of this stuff. So if you've
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  Speaker 2: got a problem with liver or kidney and you're taking
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  Speaker 2: all these things that don't belong in the body, and
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  Speaker 2: the body's trying to get rid of them, working against yourself,
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  Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter what's wrong with you what they're giving.
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  Speaker 2: You might be painting over the rust, but it's making
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  Speaker 2: you worse and the problems getting worse. So we need
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  Speaker 2: to address the liver and kidneys if there's a problem,
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  Speaker 2: not ignore them. So but anyway, it's always difficult. People
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  Speaker 2: want to know what you've got for this because like
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  Speaker 2: when they go to the pharmacy or their MD doctor,
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  Speaker 2: that's what they always tell them. Well, you need a
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  Speaker 2: cholesterol med and you need a heart mad and you
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  Speaker 2: need this, and it doesn't work that way with me
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  Speaker 2: and having high blood pressure our other symptoms is not
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  Speaker 2: the disease. It's the check engine light telling us there's
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  Speaker 2: something wrong. So we need to address what's going on,
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  Speaker 2: not try to give you something to cover up, which
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  Speaker 2: is what a lot of people are used to. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: enough for the moment, Susan, it's.
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  Speaker 5: It's a conundrum. You know. I deal with people, and
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  Speaker 5: I think one of the things that I see most
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  Speaker 5: common is a lack of humility, where people are unable
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  Speaker 5: to let that light bulb go off in their head
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  Speaker 5: and say, wow, I've been lied to, I'm wrong. That's
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  Speaker 5: that's what I see. People just don't want to accept
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  Speaker 5: that that they've been wrong. I don't understand. You know,
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  Speaker 5: you've got two buckses. One is all man made, you know,
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  Speaker 5: petroleum based, dangerous, and then you got another box over
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  Speaker 5: here that's made with all natural plants God created. And
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  Speaker 5: it's like, you know, what do you want to pick?
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  Speaker 5: You want to pick behind what's door number one that's
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  Speaker 5: all natural or door number two? And then the other aspect.
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  Speaker 5: And I heard it once this week, Well, insurance won't
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  Speaker 5: cover it, and I said, so cut back in your
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  Speaker 5: budget somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and once you get better, you don't have to
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  Speaker 2: spend more where they want you on a medication forever
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  Speaker 2: and it just slowly destroys you and nobody tells you
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  Speaker 2: the truth.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but they don't care about that doc because they've
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  Speaker 5: got a zero to very low copay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right in a lot of cases, they
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  Speaker 2: don't worry about that. The nice thing about what we
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  Speaker 2: do is it doesn't cost a lot. Once we get
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  Speaker 2: you doing better and better, we cut back less unless
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  Speaker 2: and then if somebody gets sick and Vancouver are North Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: they pick up the phone and they call and we
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  Speaker 2: address it at that moment. So it's not like you're
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  Speaker 2: locked in. I met a lot of patience years ago,
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  Speaker 2: whether it was the pharmacy or natural, and it wasn't natural,
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  Speaker 2: but they were told it was. There was a certain
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  Speaker 2: amount of month every month and it never changed. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's sales and that's not healthcare. So Bill, what do
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  Speaker 2: you think. I know you've run in to a lot
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  Speaker 2: of this with patients coming to you on a ton
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  Speaker 2: of stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's a let's say, I think Susan
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  Speaker 6: brought up something that was is really important and uh
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  Speaker 6: and it has to do with with trust. You know,
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  Speaker 6: we've heard ever since we were kids, and this has
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  Speaker 6: been going on for generations that it's a way that
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  Speaker 6: you treat illnesses to take this and this, and you
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  Speaker 6: go to your doctor and he gives you this and
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  Speaker 6: this and this and and we just do that. And here,
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  Speaker 6: all of a sudden, we've got an alternative. We have
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  Speaker 6: an option. And it's a very difficult translation I think
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  Speaker 6: for many people to let go of that old uh
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  Speaker 6: huh yeah form of thinking that that says, okay, you
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  Speaker 6: know that if if it was made by far parmaceutical
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  Speaker 6: Company has got to be good because we've been told
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  Speaker 6: that for years. It's hard to let that go and
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  Speaker 6: and put your your faith in your trust in something
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  Speaker 6: that of course far far older, I mean, natural healing
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  Speaker 6: has been uh been there since Adam of your name,
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  Speaker 6: And how how do we how do we begin to
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  Speaker 6: make that transition. It's very difficult. And I think that
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  Speaker 6: for people who've been on the medication mhm road and
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  Speaker 6: taking a lot of stuff that really hasn't done anything,
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  Speaker 6: it's easier, it's easier to let that go. But for
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: people that you know, kind of dabble in pharmaceutical uh
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  Speaker 6: doctor business, and it's a holding her ballgame. And and
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  Speaker 6: I think the decision that that's an interesting point that
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  Speaker 6: she brought up. And I think it's been one that
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  Speaker 6: that you guys have been talking about kind of on
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  Speaker 6: the edge for a long time. But it's it is,
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  Speaker 6: It is a very it's very much a matter of
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  Speaker 6: of of trust and say Okay, I'm gonna let this
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  Speaker 6: go on. I'm going to try this. Not easy to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you guys both nailed it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I've had some really neat things happen. I had a
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  Speaker 2: lady one time come to me with breast cancer and
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  Speaker 2: she said, I'm not letting those other guys touch me.
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  Speaker 2: I want you, I said, okay, and she said, and
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  Speaker 2: more importantly, I want you to tell me everything you
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  Speaker 2: think you would do if it was a family member
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  Speaker 2: of yours. I said okay, and then I gave her
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  Speaker 2: a list of the things that I would do for them,
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  Speaker 2: and she did every one of them. Her complete trust
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  Speaker 2: was in me. I heard that she had gotten better.
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  Speaker 2: I never had that. She never had come back after
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  Speaker 2: a while, so that was very refreshing and the funniest one.
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  Speaker 2: I probably told this story a few times, but I
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  Speaker 2: think it's worth repeating tonight. I had this gentleman come
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  Speaker 2: to me. He was probably early mid seventies, and he
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  Speaker 2: loved gardening. He loved working outside in his yard, and
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: he was so sick from all the medications that he
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: couldn't do anything anymore. And he came to me and
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  Speaker 2: he said, DOC help. So we sat on and we
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  Speaker 2: went over all the medications he was taking, and god
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  Speaker 2: knows he was on a lot of them. And he
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  Speaker 2: said it every time I tell him about it, they
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  Speaker 2: just give me something else. And he said, I'm dis miserable.
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  Speaker 2: So we went over everything and I said, well, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to give you these suggestions and then you have
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  Speaker 2: to decide what you want to do. And he said, well,
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  Speaker 2: what about all the stuff I'm taking? And I said,
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  Speaker 2: that's up to you. I can't tell you what to do.
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  Speaker 2: All I can tell you is I would never give
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  Speaker 2: it to you. It's not good for you, and I
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  Speaker 2: would never take it. And I said, the only time
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  Speaker 2: that I believe in any kind of pharmacy medications is
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  Speaker 2: maybe in the emergency room to save a life, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe something for extreme pain while we're trying to heal you.
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  Speaker 2: But other than that, I say, run run from them. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he got up and dumped everything in the trash can
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  Speaker 2: that he was taken and went home. And a week
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  Speaker 2: later he comes dancing through the waiting room and he said,
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  Speaker 2: I have never felt so good in my life. He said,
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  Speaker 2: I got off all that stuff. I'm taking what you
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  Speaker 2: told me and how to take it, and I feel good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm working in the garden again. Everything was good. Then
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  Speaker 2: this happens. I get a call from his wife later
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  Speaker 2: on and she chewed my one side up down the other.
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  Speaker 2: How dare you take him off his medications and do
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  Speaker 2: that to him? And I said, ma'am, I never told
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: him not to take anything. I don't take anybody off
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: their medications. I said, by what concerns me is where
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: were you when he was telling everybody how sick the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: medications were making him and they were destroying his life
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and taking away his love of gardening and all the
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: outdoor stuff. I said, that's what you ought to be
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: listening to, because he just danced through the office a
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: couple days ago and said he hasn't done this great
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: in a long time. Well, we didn't and talk no more.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: And about a year later she called me up again.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I thought, oh no, and she said, you know, I
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: saw what you did with my husband, and I'm having
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: some issues and I'd like you to help me. So
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: that was really cool because I thought, here we go again.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: So many times family and friends who mean well and
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: love you and care about you googled something, saw a commercial,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: heard from somebody, and think they know best, and they
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: put a lot of pressure on a lot of people.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I've had some people that caved in and told me
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I've got to do what the family says. I'm getting
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of slack. I mean a lot of slack.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: And I've had some people saying, well, I want you
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: to know they're all against this, but I trust you
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: and I want you to help me. It comes and
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: goes that way. Is he anything.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Now, I've heard all of it. I just can't imagine
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: a wife calling chewing you out when she can. Obviously,
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: maybe she doesn't live with him, but you would think,
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: you know, could see the improvement.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Well. And her thing was, he needs those medicines. See,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: that's that's where the whole problem starts. People believe that
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: it's a medicine to help you, like Bill was talking,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: and it's not. It's a cover up. We hope you
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: don't die too soon because you can buy this for
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: a long time. Uh. And they don't tell people the truth.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: So the poor wife was brain washed beyond belief and
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: he's dancing in my office. She needed quit listening to
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: all that other stuff and watch and listen to him.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: But it turned out nice. Bill.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know we've talked about this before. But that
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: family pressure, that peer pressure can sometimes you know, a
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: little domestic tranquility, uh, can be worth a lot. And
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: if you're feeling bad and you're getting a lot of
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: flack from your family, you don't need that. And I
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: think a lot of people just figure out, well, what
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: the hell, will just give in to them. At least
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: they'll leave me alone. Yeah, they don't. They don't leave
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: your fault.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Well, you're right, and it's ruined many of people and
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: caused them a lot of grief. Every once in a
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: while they'd come back to me. They'd finally say, Okay,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I tried that for you guys, and it didn't work. Uh,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: now I'm going back to duck and uh that was
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: always rewarding. Uh, at least with me, they got a
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: couple things. They got somebody that just stubborn enough to
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: never give up. And we're going to troubleshoot with the
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: input of your body to you and you telling me.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: And so many times patients have made me look like
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: a genius and they did everything. All I did was
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: had to listen, and you know, we talked before. I
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: had a lot of patients tell me that other doctors
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: wouldn't listen to them. It's like me, doctor, you not, well,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: that's dumb. You know, if the patient can't talk to you,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: then you're not ever going to be really a very
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: good doctor. You've got to listen and they'll they'll help you.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: They don't know what to do. They don't know all
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the questions to ask, but they know how they're feeling there,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: and they're usually scared and sometimes in a lot of pain,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: and they've seen all the stuff on internet or YouTube
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: or the TV commercial and it's rough. So it's a
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: lot of responsibility. You need to listen and you need
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: to be comforting. And hopefully, as you guys talked about,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: they learned to trust and believe in you, and together
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: you troubleshoot and figure it out. That's pretty cool. But
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I've been down that road a lot, and sometimes people
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: call me up or send me an email and asked
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: me what to do, and then never do it. And
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: then a year or so later, I'll hear from them
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: again and they'll ask me the same thing, and I'll say,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: we already went down this road. You didn't get any
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: of the products I talked about, And then they'll tell me, well,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do it this time, so that finally
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: worked itself out. But it's always funny to me when
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: they ask you and Susie, you're right. The insurance thing
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: has come up a few times. I had a very
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: good friend of mine who was taking cardioplus and a
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: couple other things for his heart, arteries and circulation. And
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: at one time their insurance I think paid a little bit. Well,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: then they insurance changed or something changed, I don't remember,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: and she wanted me to just and he had just
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: got remarried, and him and I had been friends forever,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: but he got recently remarried and she wanted this stuff
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: to be covered when they came in with nothing out
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: of their pocket, and I couldn't do it. It cost
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: me too much money. So she stopped him from taking
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. And the next thing I know, friend
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: of mine calls and says, our buddy's in the hospital.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: He had a heart attack. That said, oh God. And
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: they did all their tests and did everything they do
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: in the hospital, and after keeping him for a few days,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: they told him, Okay, you're fine, you can go home.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: And he got up, sat down in the chair to
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: put on his shoes, had a heart attack and died
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: right there. And this is what happens when you listen
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: to them guys that pushed pharmaceutical products, and you know,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: if it's time to die, we're going. It doesn't matter
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: what you do. But I think God gave us the
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: ability to maybe not go ahead of schedule. And that's
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: where common sense and natural health care comes in. As
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: long as we're going to be here, let's do the
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: best we can. And it was so sad because this
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: guy had been a friend of mine for many and
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: it was no doubt in my mind that the cardioplus
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: might have kept him doing really well for a long time,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: because it was probably about six months after he quit
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: that all this happened to him. Was just very sad.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: He was a very old just very sad. All right, guys, Well,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: it looks like we're a breaks. Is he anything before break? Bill?
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: Hey, you have it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: It'll wait all right, Well, we'll go to break and
• 31:30
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• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Let me.
• 34:02
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• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Minute, missie, I didn't need a kisser. Don't have no
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  Speaker 2: Health Hours. We're glad you're back, and we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: what people ask when they decide to go natural. And
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: they've been doing a lot of medications, and one of
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: the things that I brought up was that whenever they
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: get rid of all the stuff except what I suggest,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: so we know the playing field, I see the best results.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Billy had something you wanted to go into.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was reading a well I guess
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: it was a transcription of a speech, but you've used
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: the term several times and this transcription was really talking
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: about because our current president has had used the term
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: in in his campaign, and the term is common sense,
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: And the question asked in the essay, what is that?
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: Because what is common sense to one person is not
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: common sense with another, but theirs their perception is common sense.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: So what what does common sense mean? And how do
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: we define that? And how does that how does that
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: become implicit in our in our outlook and as so
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: it was a kind of an interesting thing because to me,
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: common sense is of what I believe, and everybody else
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: is out of the loop. I know, I don't know.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: Talk about that a minute. What what do we mean
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: common sense? Yeah?
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: That that's good. I had not thought of that. Sure,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: make me look silly, I would say, for most of us, Yeah,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: for most of us is common sense is our gut
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: innate feeling of what to do, what's right, what's wrong?
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: That.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but everybody has different experiences, so that could be
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: a bit of a problem, I guess. And I think
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: President Trump stole common sense from us because we were
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: doing it on the show when everybody was still saying conservative.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: So I think they listened to our show. I'm pretty
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: sure they did. But to me, that that's that gut feeling.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: And you know I've said before on here, you don't
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: need all these damn laws. There's so many most people
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: don't even know them, and everybody breaks the law probably
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: every day and doesn't even know it. All you need,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: whether you're religious or not, doesn't really matter. The ten come.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: It's just a good rule book and good old fashioned.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Does it feel right or not? Now, if if you
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: had a good upbringing and good family, then maybe that
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: common sense is a little better. If you didn't, then
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: maybe it's not as good. I don't know. Personally. I've
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: probably broke eleven or twelve of the ten commandments at
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: some time or other, So I don't know, Susie, what
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: do you think common sense?
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Common senses? It was a young lady that we were
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: foster parents for and she comes walking in from her
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: bedroom one day and she said, and she would say
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: my name in the beginning with a bit of a lisp.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: She was autistic, and she would say, Susie, I think
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: I figured something out. And I said what, And she said,
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: it's not common sense, it's uncommon sense. And I'm like,
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: out of the mouth of an autistic.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Girl, that's kind of cool. Yeah, I don't know common
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: to me. I never thought about that until Bill brought
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: it up tonight. That's a good, a good thing to
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: think about, because all of our life experiences are different.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: But I do believe, I do truly believe if you
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: never ever read anything religious or otherwise and you were
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: on some island somewhere, you would still know right from wrong.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: You would still look around and say, there has to
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: be more than me and this, because it's just too
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: fabulous there that I think they would the common sense
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: would kick in and they would know an awful lot
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: of things without anybody ever teaching them anything. So I
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: guess that's what I'm looking at, is that gut feeling
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: we get. And I know it's hard to.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: Say, well, I think you're right, But I think a
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: lot of it is cultural, a lot of it is
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: part of a society or what you know. I think
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: what's common sense to us in this country might be
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: in large part what is common sense to somebody else
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: in a in a very different culture, but it will
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: be different. And I think that there are you know,
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: you look as you say the ten commandments and you think, well,
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: you shouldn't kill and you shouldn't do that but you know,
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: these are more things as you should not do. And
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: but there are civilizations and cultures in which that those
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: don't apply. And and I think that if we keep
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: in mind, if I keep in mind that what I
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: what I kind of call common sense is really as
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: sus as it based on my own personal experience, my
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: life experience, or my cultural family experience, that that gives
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: me some kind of a benchmark. Otherwise otherwise it's all
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: over the map.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: That's true. How cool? Uh? I don't give pay people's
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: names because of patient privacy and all that stuff. But
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: the person I was mentioning just popped up on our
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: website and said, hey, doc, it's me, And uh, there's
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: there's only a few that I dealt with this week
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: that had similar issues. But I think I know who
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: this one is. And they said, you know, I was
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: taking Plavix and lipatore. I didn't mention any names of
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: the drugs on purpose, And they said, I've only done
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: one round and i'd like for you to review. Well,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I'd be glad to do that, but just contact me
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: if you want during the week. But if you want
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: to hear from me right now, what I would say
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: is I always cringe when they tell me they're giving
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: people something that thins the blood and doesn't let a
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: clot because clotting is the vitamin K factor that we
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: get from a lot of green stuff, and without it,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: we keep bleeding and you get hurt or you cut yourself.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: It could be really dangerous. And then lippiitoire, that was
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: the very first statin and what it was designed to do.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: What happened they were experimenting around, and I don't think
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: they were trying to find something for cholesterol, but they
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: found out that lippiitour shut down the liver and didn't
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: let it make cholesterol. Well, the liver makes eighty percent
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: of your cholesterol, and that's how important cholesterol is, and
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: we were designed to get twenty percent of that cholesterol
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: in our diet and how we eat, so the liver
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: makes eighty and we make twenty. Well, what they figured
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: out was if we tell people their arteries are clogged
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: up because of cholesterol, then we can tell them they
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: need to be on lip which will shut down cholesterol,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: and we can keep them on it forever. Well, what
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: happened a couple things they learned, and every patient I
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: ever know knew that was taking lipatour or any of
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: them long term ended up with some kind of cancer.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I had a family member who refused to not refused
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: to listen to me, and they said, I'm going to
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: take it, and they did and they died of cancer.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Very sad. I wanted to help and they would not
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: let me. But telling the body you're stupid, You're making
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: cholesterol and we're going to shut that down, to me,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: is this ridiculous. It's a slap in the face. I
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: don't care if you don't believe in God, or will
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: you believe in God. If you believe in God, then
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: you must think he was a pretty lousy creator that
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: he made a body that makes cholesterol and it shouldn't.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: And another big thing there is they knew that the
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: arteries were not clogged up with cholesterol. They knew that
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: what was happening was there was a lack of natural
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: vitamin C and we were not getting the blood circulation
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: that we should get and the inside of your arteries
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: were looking like raw ground beef. And I've seen many
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: studies on the fact that what the cholesterol was doing
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: was trying to fix damaged areas that were raw and
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: bleeding and looking bad, and so cholesterol was kind of
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: like the body's paste in that case. But also the
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: brain is the number one customer for cholesterol, and the
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: brain needs cholesterol badly. And also every cell in your
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: body uses cholesterol. So when you shut down the liver's
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: ability to make cholesterol, it's like a slow, slow damaging
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: thing taking place. And you may feel bad and not
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: know what's going on, but you keep taking that lipitour.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: So I could not be an MD and push those
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: kind of medications. My conscience would not let me. I've
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: seen too many bad things with those things. And I
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: had a grandfather who they told him he was a bleeder,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: and I found out later he was on those kind
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: of medications. They told him he was going to die,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: that he had to retire from his job, and he retired,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: did what they said, and they were saying he was
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: going to die pretty quick no matter what. And he
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: lived a long long time. I think he was ninety
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: maybe older, and he got real sick with the flu
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: or something. See. And that's another problem. When you're taking
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: these medications, the body has to work hard to get
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: rid of them. So your immune system's already in trouble
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: it's like trying to fight a war on three fronts
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: and the body just finally gives up. And my grandfather
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: was close to ninety, maybe over ninety, and he got
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: sick with the flu or something like that and it
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: finally did him in. So I guess I was destined
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: to stay away from a lot of those medications because
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I've seen so much bad happen and it just horrifies me.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: But thank you for jumping in our chat room and
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: bringing that up. If you have more questions, I'll be
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: glad to answer them. You could always call me during
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: the week or send me an email. But again, that's
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: one of them things I tell tell people. You have
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: to make the decision on those medications. No, I would
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: not give it to you. No, I would not ever
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: take it. And I like the things that we do
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: to keep the heart and arteries healthy. One of the
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: neat things about cardioplus, and that's one of the products
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I go to a lot, is it has coenzyme Q ten.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: It has the protamorphogen for good heart cells, the cardiotrophin.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: It has natural vitamin C to keep everything healthy because
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: the arteries and the adrenals and everybody use natural vitamin C.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: It has what we call cataplex e two, which oxygenates
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: and keeps the blood healthy and all that. And it
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: just popped up on our screen that hiss colecterol was fine.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Think about that, ladies and gentlemen. The cholesterol was fine
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: by the numbers that they set as a standard. And
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: that should tell you something, because if you had any
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: kind of thing going on, well, guess what the blood
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: work would come back and probably scare you to death.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I've had patients horrified when the blood work came back,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: and a lot of times I hadn't done it right.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: But the whole thing is cholesterol is a good guy.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: If you want dementia and Parkinson's and all the different
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: kind of brain things that we see happening to elderly,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: well guess what the root cause in a lot of cases,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: I believe is from shutting the liver down so it
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: can't make cholesterol. We need it, brain number one customer.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Every cell in the body and the LDL that they
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: tell you is to bad. Cholesterol is the most important
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: one because it's used to make all the hormones, so
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: the adrenals, the thyroid, the hypothalmus, the pituitary testes in
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: men ovaries and women. All those things communicate and they
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: make your hormones, and LDL is most important for making
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: the hormones. So a lot of this stuff is to
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: scare people. I think a lot of it maybe is
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: just business, and a lot of it maybe they don't
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: know because a lot of the other doctors don't study
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. See for me, this wasn't something
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I studied on the side. This was my passion of
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: my love, and I wanted to do things right for people,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: and I wanted to help people the right way, like
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: it was me. I might walk out of here and
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: die tonight, but I'll know that I did everything that
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I thought I could to do right. And if it's
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: checkout time, well then it's checkout time. But in the meantime,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do all the good things that I know
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: to do, and I treat everybody like they were me.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: So I try to do good Susie.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I told the story before. It's short,
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: thank goodness, But it was before I knew you, long
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: before I knew you, maybe I don't know two years
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: and so I had gone to a local clinic, and
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: I mean it's like cattle, and it is about fear,
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: but it's also about money. It's always about money. But
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: the fear that this woman instilled in me was off
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: the chart, you know. And I'm thinking, in a nano second,
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking my husband, you know, my family, might kids,
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: I pads, I'm thinking everything. Okay, I've got to take
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: care of myself. And so I swallowed that first lipitoire
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: pill and then I did it the next day, and
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: then I did it the next day, and I'm like,
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: I'm not sleeping good, what's wrong? Oh my gosh, my
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: arm's hurt. And I get in the car to go
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: run some errands and I can hardly hold onto the
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: steering wheel. So I go ahead and do what I
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: gotta do. And I come home and yeah, I went
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: to the internet, but I wanted to read the side
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: effects and ligaments. It attacks your ligaments. So my arms
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: were hurting to the point that I could hardly drive.
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: And I think the intro on the show says, what
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: to do with the pharmaceuticals once you go natural. I
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: went to this trash can and I threw the rest
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: of it away.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I'm proud of you. They mentioned as all you guys
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: are probably seeing on the screen that the LDL was
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: one twelve. Well, what happened when they first came out
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: with lipitour. They told people if your total cholesterol is
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: one seventy five to two sixty, year fine, And the
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: LDL back then was one oh four to one seventy nine,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: you were fine. And then after a year or so,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: they realized how much money they made. In my opinion,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I can't prove this. They're not going to tell me.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: And so what they did they went back and they
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: lowered the numbers. And I had patients come to me
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: and say, well, before they told me my cholesterol is fine,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: it's the same number, and now they're telling me it's
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: too high. But I have in my hand the original
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: numbers way back, and cholesterol one seventy five to two
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: sixty total was perfect. Uh HDL was thirty two to
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: sixty and LDL was one o four to one seventy nine.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Now they want your cholesterol below one hundred the last
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: time I talked to a lab and that's what they're
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: being told. And that's why we see so many problems
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: with the elderly who have been on these medications a
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: long time. With cognitive function going downhill and Susie, the
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: reason you had them ligament and tending kind of problems
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: was because cholesterol is used in every single cell in
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: the body, so you hurt everywhere.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: Right, and so I don't understand how anyone can function
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: on that stuff. It's hard to pick up a fork
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: and get some food and put it in my mouth.
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: I'm like, this ain't normal.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well for a lot of people. Everybody's a little different.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Number one. Number two. If you complain enough, they'll put
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: you on a medication to cover up what's going on,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: shut down the pain, and you're still in bad shape.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: It's just very, very sad. But like I said, cholesterol
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: is really important. People come into my office and they said, well,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: they told me it needs to be below one hundred.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I said, no, if it is, I start worrying something's
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: wrong with you. You're on a bad medication. So I
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: like to see cholesterol two fifty two sixty. And as
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: we get older, it actually rises a little. To take
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: care of us, we gain a few pounds. The body's
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: trying to protect us and it is not healthy to
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: do all their medications. But the person and my family
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: would not listen to me, and there was nothing I
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: could do. And on the screen here it says it's
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: trust in capital letters, and you named it off the bat.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Susie and Bill both talked about trust, and you've been
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: conditioned in life to not think that way, you know,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: and it's hard to trust somebody new, and especially when
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: they're not using the pharmacy. That was one of the
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: reasons when I did my postgraduate work for applied clinical nutrition,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: I was already involved with standard process in medi herb
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: and saw the good companies and the companies that wouldn't
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: deal with you if you weren't a doctor. They would
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: not sell over the counter, and that really impressed me.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: So I say, personally, what'd you find?
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: Okay, So this comes and I'll post the article to
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: rumble in the comments. If you do chat, it won't
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: stay comments, it will stay. So Liberator is a Pfizor
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: product and it brings in just shy a two billion
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: dollars a year.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: I rest my case. I'll never make that kind of
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: money because I tell people the truth and I don't
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: send them to buy expensive products. And I don't want
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: you taking stuff long term. Nobody, you know, That's one
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: of the common things. Did they'll come to me and
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: what do you got for cholesterol? Well, your cholesterol is important.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: What kind of numbers are you worried about? And I
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: think I told the story, but since our our friend
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: is on there right now, had not heard this. I
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: had a very good friend and patient who his wife
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: sent him to get blood work. She was worried she'd
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: saw something on the internet and worried about cholesterol and
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: all that. So he calls me up after the blood work.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Because I didn't send them, they went on their own
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: and the numbers were off the chart. His wife was livid.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: She was beside herself. She thought he was dying. It
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: was horrible. So I said, did you fast for twelve hours? No?
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Did you brush your teeth in the morning with toothpaste? Yes? Well,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: toothpaste has some type of a sugar in it, and
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: if you didn't fast for twelve hours, then there's no
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: real reference point. So if you're worried about all that,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: go back and do it again, only this time fast
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: for twelve hours. That means only water, brush your teeth
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: only with water in the morning, and then call me
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: when you get to test. And they called me back
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: after that and they said everything was fine. I said,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I thought so. But see, they don't tell people that
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: because if you're afraid, and you know, we're all afraid,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: nobody wants to die young or like you said, Susie,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: or start worrying about my family and my pets and
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: who's going to help and take care of everybody. You know,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: it's it's scary, and that's where the trust comes in.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: And I tell people all the time, I don't have
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: all the answers, but we're gonna figure it out. We're
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: going to keep working hard, and I want the best
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: for everybody. And I don't want them to spend a
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: lot of money, and I don't want them taking a
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: lot of pills. And it's a lot easier to maintain
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: than it is to go back and put out fires.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: And it was very sad for me, the person that
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: wouldn't stop the lipitour. We went to a restaurant one
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: time and they ordered a fish and they said, do
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: not cook it in anything is heated on the scale,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: and bring it to me no oils, because that stuff's
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: bad for you. It'll raise my cholesterol. And they ended
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: up shopping around when they had a problem a tumor
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: showed up in their throat, and they went to they
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: talked to me, and they talked to five more doctors,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: and all of them said the same thing. No way,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: we're not going in there. And they found the sixth
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: one and he cut and after the surgery, a giant
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: softball looking external term tumor grew on the outside and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: then it was too late. So, uh, well, we're we're
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: at break time, guys. I had a couple of break
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: the mood, just a tiny, tiny bit, sissy, This one
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: you'll appreciate.
• 1:00:44
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• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Marriage is where one person is always right and the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: other one is the husband. I know Hunley Unley is
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: probably looking right now to see if the marriage license expired,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: but we won't say that, all right. And one other
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: little thing. You know, having kids is a big deal,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: I mean a really really big deal. And this couple
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: was talking and they said, you know what, we decided
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: we're not going to have kids. It was a tough decision,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: but we're just not gonna have kids. And we decided
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: we'll tell them this afternoon at dinner. All right, let's
• 1:01:39
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• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:44
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• 1:01:49
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  Speaker 2: before we go to Bill, I just got another thing
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: from our wonderful listener out there. And this is what
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: they said. That the cholesterol total was one sixty. That
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: would scare me because one sixty is low. But in
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: the new numbers, one sixty is still high. But in
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: front of me, the old numbers it was one seventy
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: five to two sixty before they changed it to help
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: make some of that two billion dollars. As soon as
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: he talked about they said the triglycerides were sixty seven. Well,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: well that's pretty good because on our old old charts
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: it was sixty to one sixty. That's fine. And then
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: the HDL was forty eight. That's fine because HDL was
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: thirty two to sixty. So other than a little low
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: on the cholesterol, that's one healthy set of blood work.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: And then again we don't know. I don't know if
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: you did twelve hours of fast thing, if you brush
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: your teeth with toothpaste. But overall, those are some really
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: good numbers. Like I said, a little low on the cholesterol.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: I like to see it a little higher, especially as
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: we get a little older. And those were the old numbers,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: and the good fats are important, So okay, Bill, take it.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: Away, Yeah, okay, yeah, I had a conversation though, a
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago with a fellow that I've known
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: for a while who's it's probably the first time with
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: history this has ever happened. But he's having some relationship
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: difficulties with his with his wife, and I know that
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: never has happened before, so it's kind of interesting. But
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: he used the phrase that I hadn't heard for years,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: and the phrase is you go where the applause is
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: in relationships. If if things aren't aren't good for one
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: person and they don't seem to be getting any better
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: in the relationship, usually that person will find some place
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: to go, whether there's work or some kind of other activities, sports,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: or something where they can feel accepted and they can
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: feel feel okay about things. If if dealing with with
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: the negative environment is the only option that we have,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: that that's not that's not much to look for too,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: And I realized that really what they're talking about, what
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: he was talking about was the need and this is
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: one of one of Doc's mantras to be respected, but
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 6: also the need to be approved of and the need
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: to be accepted, and those are surely both parts of
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: being respected. But there's so much about so much of
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: how we feel about ourselves and and what what we
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: what we expect to encounter from others as well as
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: ourselves really really comes from from our childhood and from
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 6: our parents. If if we had a parent who was
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: our parents who were authoritative, do it my way or
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: the highway, who didn't. Ever, we're never encouraging, We're never supportive.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: That's typically mhm, what forms the basis for our choosing
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: and choosing a mate, choosing somebody to live with. We
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: we we we replicate that that early on childhood evaluation
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: that our parents gave of us to have parents that
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: are supportive and encouraging and uh providing kinds of opportunity.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: It doesn't well, it doesn't seem to happen all that often.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: We tend to find more people who are isolated and
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: and experiencing a kind of profound separation. Number I heard
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 6: the other day, and I don't know if I mentioned
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: this last time, but then and I'm not I'm not
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: remembering these numbers correctly, so it's not a quote. But
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: a study has found that for people under forty and
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: again that that numbers not the number that that I read.
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  Speaker 6: And I can't remember where I found it, so there
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: it goes. But for people under forty, only thirty percent
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: of them I've ever had a romantic relationship. That means
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 6: very few people have ever been in love. Sure, a
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: few people ever had crushes. I've ever had fantasy. It's
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 6: all phones and computers and games and stuff. And then
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: the isolation that this has produced is profound. I was
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: standing in line, Uh, what's was today? Was it Monday?
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: Went to the hardware store and their guy in front
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: of me had his phone out and he had those
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 6: little white things in his ears. I don't know what
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: the hellans are, but they look weird. And he was talking.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: He was aning a conversation with somebody. Not only was
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: his face totally absorbed in his computer, but he was
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 6: having a conversation. Had no idea what was going on
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: around him, no idea that there is anybody else. And
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: I thought, this is where we've gotten, and no wonder.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: Nobody has romantic relationships. Nobody in high school has been
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: in love with the cheerleader. I become fun. It all
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: comes down to what I was having in this conversation.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: Coming from this conversation with this guy, was he had
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: very little trust in himself. And that's really what we
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 6: were talking about earlier this evening, and trust in ourselves.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: Trust to make a decision about our healthcare. I think
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: we could listen to other people, we could listen to
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: their opinions, but ultimately it's our decision and we have
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 6: to trust. And maybe maybe we get to that point
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  Speaker 6: when we're when we're old, I don't know, but certainly
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 6: when we're younger, that need to be accepted and that
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: need for ool can be pretty strong factors in our
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 6: decision making process. And I think that what also this
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: entails is and again, and particularly in the situation I
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: was talking about, is having a clear sense of what
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: your values are and in a relationship, and a relationship
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: doesn't have to be a personal want to be business
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 6: relationship or church or whatever. It can be any kind
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: of interaction with others is a relationship. Having a clear
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: idea of what we what our values are, what we
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: believe in. Are we are we? I'm going to use
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: two terms that you don't like, but that's all right.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: Are we Democrats or are we Republicans? Are we Christians
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: or are we not Christians? I heard the term in
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: that conversation about a Christian marriage. Okay, what is that?
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 6: What do you mean by that? And do both people
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: agree on what that is? And are they on the
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: same page of that or does one person have a
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: very different opinion about what a Christian marriage is because
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: they're both very religious people. Does that have how does
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: that play out in terms of a functional relationship? You know,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 6: it's like common sense, what do you mean by that?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: Your common sense is different than mine. Your sense about
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 6: the politics is different from mine. Your sense of a
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: religious function, it's different from how much are we willing
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: to compromise for the sake of the relationship? And I
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: think those are tough questions because I remember years ago
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: there's a couple came into me and well, we've been
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: married fifty five years and we just don't want to
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: throw that away. And I said, you know, if this
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: is a business arrangement and it was going south, would
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: you stand it just because you've been in business for
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: fifty five years and would say this is stupid. I
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 6: got to change this. It's a hard thing, I think,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: to really have that self honesty and that self trust,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: and no matter what our parents gave us, good or bad,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 6: we still have to develop that sense of of trusting
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: our own judgment above all else. Nobody you know, I've
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: heard the term. I haven't heard it recently, but the
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: term was, well, you have to believe that that I
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: have your best interest at heart. Well, what do you
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: know about my best interest? You don't. You don't know
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: my best interests are them? It took a lifetime for
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: me to figure that out. I've known you for three
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: weeks and you're supposed to help me what my best No,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: that doesn't work. How do we how do we acquire
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: the capability to say, yeah, I did good, I did good,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: that was a good job. We know, as you were
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: talking earlier, we know when we do something well, whether
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 6: we were building a house or we're helping with somebody
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 6: with some kind of an illness. We know when we
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: help them, and we know when we don't. We know
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: when we when you know, we make a bad decision,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: But it doesn't matter what we know when it's not
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: a good decision. Typically we find that help pretty quickly,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 6: but not always, but not always. But how do we
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: trust that gut feeling you were talking about, that sense
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 6: of inner consciousness that tells us that what we're doing
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: is good, it's solid. You know, we all we all
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 6: mess up, we all make bad decisions, we all make mistakes.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 6: For a while, I was saying, I don't believe that
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: people make mistakes. They just create learning opportunities, and most
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 6: people don't learn from from that. But but we we
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 6: do that. But I think we, all of us, we
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: do far more amazing stuff, good stuff, solid stuff. Then
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: we then we do screw ups. But what do we
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: think about? What what comes to mind? You know, maybe
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: because I'm getting to that point in this experience that
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 6: you look back on your life and you say, oh, yeah,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: I didn't do too good here, A yeah, I didn't
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: do too good here. But how often do we do
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: we say I already did well there, that was a
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: good that was a good move, that was a good process.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: Not very often. We're just we've gotten to be a
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: negative culture. And I'm going to blame I'm going to
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: blame the media for that, because the media sells bad news,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 6: and so we're always looking for bad news even within ourselves.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: What do we do that is good? What do we
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: do it is solid? What are what are my ethics?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: What are my values? You know, if I remember hearing
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 6: years ago, Bryan, It just came to mind, so I
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: can't remember the specifics, but there were three or four
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: of us standing around and and people were clearing out
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 6: a warehouse or something, and some guy said, I think
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 6: I'll just take that, and the other fellow said, well,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to stop you, but I'm not going
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: to help you. He's doing something that was wrong. And
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: the fellow said, well, I'm not going to stop you,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 6: but i'm not going to help you. His values said
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 6: that this is not a good thing that this other
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: guy is doing, and I'm not going to be part
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 6: of it. I'm not going to help you. How often
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 6: do we do that in little things during our days?
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 6: How often do we not take a not take we
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: go ahead and help them? Do we not take a
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 6: stand I'll help you carry that out? Where Where do we?
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 6: Where do we draw the line? And I think you
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 6: know you're talking about a while ago about laws, and
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 6: we have so many laws, and you know laws are
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 6: laws are not written for good people. They're written for
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 6: bad people. Well they used to be anyway, now they're
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 6: now they're written so that folks have jobs, you know,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: they're breast folks. But the laws were used to be
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: written for bad people. Now shalt not, shalt not h
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 6: Where do where do we have our own personal line?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: And where do we say yeah, I appreciate your opinion
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: because about my going on a natural health boutine, because
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: you think I should go to the doctor, you think
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: I should take all this other stuff, and I'm not
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: going to that. I appreciate your saying that, but I'm
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: I gonna do what I gotta do. That relational pressure,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: that relational honesty. How many people came in because they
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: don't want to get young that they don't want to
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: they don't want to have the conflict. It's just easier
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 6: to put up with the joint stuff as to put
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: up with the conflict. One of the things that we
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 6: we as we've become older, we become so resistant to change.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 6: And the reason we've become resistant to change is that
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: it disrupts our dream of having a nice quiet end
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: of our law life, a little peace, a little quiet,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 6: a little contemplation that gets yeah, that gets tossed out.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: Where do we say no? Where's our line? Where do
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 6: we Where do we say okay that thus far, thus far,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 6: and no farther we send to make judgments about our behavior,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 6: about our values. It's good or they're bad. Our situation
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: is good or it's bad, or this person is good
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: or not so good. And I think that if there's
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: a tendency is certainly in the last twenty years to
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: quantify everything. This politician has corrupt, this politician is good,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 6: this guy's going to do what we want to do,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: this guy's just in it for the money, or this
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: product is good. You know, if if the activity is
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: contrary to what our sense of value is or our
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: sense of values are, where's our own honesty? Where's our
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 6: own self honesty? What are we like? You say? We
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: know what's right, We know when things are about right.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 6: What's the problem with doing stuff that's right? Are we
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 6: worried about approval or were worried about acceptance or somebody
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 6: going to think we're a jerk because we're not going
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: down the pathway that they want us to go down to.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: Does that make a difference in how we live our life? Well,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: to a certain extent it does, But ultimately and basically,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: I think if we don't maintain and re examine and
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: revisit our own sense of values frequently, do we need
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: to change because we do need to revisit that and
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: make sure that where we are and what we believe
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: is really where we want to be and what we
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: want to believe and is it right? Is it right
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: for us? Is it right for where I am? So
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 6: that was all this conversation about this guy that is
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 6: his wife problems, but he was seeming to have to
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 6: compromise so much of what he truly believed in for
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: the sake of marriage. And Yeah, when you get to
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: be over sixty, you don't much want to have to
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: get divorced, to pack up or you're junk and move out,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: that's the pain. But how much other stuff are we
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: going to put up with? And how much are we
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 6: willing to compromise? And sometimes packing up and moving out
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: is the easiest choice, not an easy one, not necessarily,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 6: but the functionality of it is, you know, is this
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 6: the way we want to end our life? In this
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 6: kind of conflict, in this kind of irresolution and this
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 6: kind of power struggle is how we want to wrap up? Yeah,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 6: so there you go, short one.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: Good, good, good stuff. That was very interesting. You always
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: come up with stuff that I guess we all think
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: about a little bit, but maybe not like I was
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: thinking while you were talking, how many times in my
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: life maybe I didn't do something really bad, but I
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: didn't lift a finger to stop somebody else doing something
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: that I knew was bad, and maybe I should have
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: and whatever the reason. So I was thinking all that,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: and there's times in my life where I did something
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: wrong and look back and said, you know, as long
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: as you were doing it wrong, you should have done
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: it a little better. Crazy Susie anything.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know why this popped into my mind,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: and I don't know what Aparticuller made me think of it,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: But you know, I think some of the disconnection in relationships,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: not necessarily just marriages, is because well, okay, no, not
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: the cause. One of them. A catalyst is social media,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: and people have come so embolden in being down right
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: mean just I call them keyboard bullies. Well perhaps they
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: were a bully before social media came around, but the
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: things that they say to people and the name calling.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: I just sometimes don't like people and social media.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah with you, I don't like social media at all.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: I love it for our show and I like, like
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: tonight that person listened to the show and participated, and
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: that's really neat because you got all the patient privacy.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: But they opened up and told us a lot of things,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: and so that part was neat. But I'm not a
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: fan of social media because I think, like Bill said,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: people are always on their phone. They don't communicate. They
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: text each other, you know, and texting is bad and
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: email's kind of bad because you don't know the emotion
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: of what's going on. I'll never forget. Many years ago,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: my youngest daughter sent me a text that said she
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: had just got a new car, and I thought that
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: was really cool. So I and I don't text much,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: but I text back and said that is really great.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: And then she text back and said, what's wrong. I said, huh,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: I said, how did you get that out of a
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: couple of words. I'm glad for you. So I just
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: don't like that. Touff. I was watching Susie and you're
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: probably more familiar with this than me, But it's the
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: same people over and over, like that lady that I
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: used to know that now lives in another state. She
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: hates Trump and Elon Musk and everything to do with
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: what's going on right now. And I mean four or
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: five six times a day when I'm posting the show,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: I see something from her and I think, thank God
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: I knew her before she got so full of hate.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: But I don't know what makes people like that, and
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: they probably wouldn't talk that way if they weren't on
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: the Internet where you have a protection.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 5: Exactly that point. Yeah, I'm pretty proud of you know,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: my family, you know, even extended. You know, I was
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: up in Dallas recently and we went to go eat
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: some good Mexican food, and my sister in law wasn't
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: on her phone, my brother wasn't on his phone. I
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: wasn't on my phone, and you know, I just was
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: just thinking about that. I can only imagine if when
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: I was growing up there was such a thing as
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: cell phones, and what my mother would do if you
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: did not sit down and talk to one another and
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: enjoy your meal and you just stared at the phone.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: There's no telling what that woman would do. I think
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: I got my parenting from her to some extent. And
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: I can remember, you know, my kids, you know, acting up,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: and you know, a boy and a girl four years apart,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: the girl the oldest. She thinks she's the boss. One
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: of my favorite things to say, and it wasn't all
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: the time, but I would say this is an announcement,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: not a suggestion.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: I like that. You know what I don't understand Bill
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: and Susie and everybody out there listening, is why do
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: I see so many people and I've seen it in
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: real life, and I've seen it in television, and I've
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: seen it in documentaries and regular news where people get
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: angry about something and they start breaking their own stuff.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: They have like a temper tantrum and break all their
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: own stuff. I have never understood that, because after you
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: calm down from your stupidness, you got all that stuff
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: you broke. What purpose did that serve? I don't understand
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: that at all.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: Susie, I don't understand it. But you know, I think
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 5: there's more to this this cell phone and social media
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: nonsense than than we may think. You're probably right it's
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 5: eroding relationships.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. Bill. What do you think
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: I know that's up your alley? Really?
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you pretty much said up to a minute ago,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: which it has to do with with anger that doesn't
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 6: have any other outlet, and if you don't know how to,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 6: if you don't have the opportunity to talk to other people,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 6: be around other people. That anger that could normally just
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: kind of be released almost without notice, builds up and
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 6: builds up, and it's just finally a lashing out at anything.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: And it doesn't matter if it's true stuff or not.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 6: The anger that has built up by not being able
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 6: to have an outlet for emotional response to anything, he's
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 6: going to be pretty intense.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just never understood it when I was a kid,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: and you'd be told, I'll give you something to have
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: a fit about or cry about. All right, guys, well
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: we're at break time. Sissy, you got a recipe up
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: your sleeve.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've actually got two short ones.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: Oh I love it. All right, Well, ladies and gentlemen,
• 1:30:42
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  Speaker 2: All right, We are back. Welcome back to Doctor Corouper's
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  Speaker 2: Natural Health Towers. And this is the time of the
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  Speaker 2: show where we help Susie because she does, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: to know the name of her company, and it kind
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  Speaker 2: of slips her by the second hour. So I being
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: the good guy that I am. Come up with the
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  Speaker 2: name for her just to remind her, and the name
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  Speaker 2: of their company is rock Solid and Driven Construction, Susie.
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  Speaker 5: That's close. It's actually renovation in design, custom homes. We
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: do remodel and new construction. We're located in the Texas
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 5: Hill Country and Gillespie County and thank goodness, the fires
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: haven't haven't affected us other than being concerned for neighbors.
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  Speaker 5: Nine homes were lost last week and the fires.
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  Speaker 2: Was that close? Was that close? I didn't know.
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  Speaker 5: Now we're on the western edge of the county. That's
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 5: on the southeastern side of the county. That was ten
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: thousand acres being fire near Lukenbach and it was small.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 5: I think it was one hundred and sixteen acres. It's out.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: And then there was another one at I ten, pretty
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 5: close to Kerrville, but still in Harper.
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  Speaker 2: You got to wonder, are they accidents are started by somebody?
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  Speaker 5: Don't get me started.
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  Speaker 2: Yah, We'll go to take us to your recipe department.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: It's a better topic.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. So I don't know. There's something about when the
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 5: weather starts warming up and I'm starting to do more
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: stuff outside, I like a light snack and it usually
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: happens about three o'clock, between three and three thirty. What
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: I like is these energy balls are fat bombs. You can,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: you know, pop a couple of those and you're good
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: to dinner. I like them because you can put them
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: in the fridge, put them in a you know, container,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 5: and just reach in and grab you one. But I mean,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: who doesn't like those candies called turtles with the chocolate
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: and the caramel and the cons. I mean, and so
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: you know, this is kind of close better for you.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: And you want one cup of madeled dates that's going
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: to be about twelve and they need to be pitted.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: You can ask me how. I know. Half a cup
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: of smooth almond butter and half a cup of whole
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 5: the cons, teaspoon of pure vanilla, tablespoon of chia seeds,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 5: and two tablespoons of unsweetened cocoa powder. And I use
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: an organic cocoa powder. I get it on Amazon or
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: I get it natural grocers. Quarter teaspoons of salt. And
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 5: that's why I like this. It's kind of got that
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 5: sweet and the salty in it, so it takes care
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: of both craving. So you always want to rehydrate your
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 5: dates in hot water for about ten minutes let them
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: soften up. I do all this in the food processor.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 5: It's much easier, and so then you drain, of course,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: and then you can do a little slit. I can
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: even do it with my thumbs and pop that that
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 5: pit out. Believe me, it makes a lot of racket
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: in your food processor. If you don't do that, it's horrible. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: So then you're going to add your dates, your all
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 5: in butter, your pecans, the nielogia seeds, your coco pattern,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 5: your salt to your food processor, and then you're going
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 5: to process this until it becomes kind of thick, and
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 5: you might need to scrape the sides down a couple
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 5: of times to make sure you've got all that date
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: pure eight. And then it's just as simple as if
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: it's a little crumbly, and it really shouldn't be because
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: you soak those dates and water. But if it is,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: you could add you know, about a tablespoon of water
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: just to n for it to all come together. Then
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 5: you're just gonna put this all this batter in. They
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: keep calling you it a batter, but okay, we'll call
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: it a batter. In the refrigerator for an hour and
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 5: then you take it out and you just roll it
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  Speaker 5: into about twenty little balls. And you know these are powerhouses.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 5: One of them is going to give you that that
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: late afternoon kick that you need and be healthy for you.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: So in the fridge the will last five to seven
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: days and frozen for about three months. And I can
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: attest to how how wonderful these are. I really do
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 5: like them. I'm going to put this recipe into the
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: comment section of today's show and you can refer back
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: to it at at your convenience. And there really isn't
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: much in this particular recipe that I need to that
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: we need to change up. You know, I would stick
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: with an organic cocoa pattern. I wouldn't use Hershey, I
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 5: just don't trust them that I don't entrust the integrity
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 5: of the company. And and I'm not talking about the
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: employees what could possibly be in their cocoa pattern. So
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 5: just source yourself a good organ cocoa patter. So that's
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 5: one and the other one. I know some people just
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 5: may turn their nose up, but don't knock it until
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 5: you try it. So this is a churro fat bomb.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: So in Texas people like their churros, but that's that's
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 5: as far as this recipe goes in an app actual churro.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 5: It's more about the flavor. So this one is eight
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  Speaker 5: ounces of cream cheese and eight tablespoons of butter, unsalted,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: and it should be you know, room temperature, so it
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: comes together well, a teaspoon of vanilla extract and a
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: third of a cup of granular sweetener. Okay, so that's
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 5: kind of you know, generic plus one tablespoon. That's the
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 5: one tablespoon is going to be the coating. So you
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: could very easily use a third of a cup of
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 5: whole cane sugar. I mean, for one thing, sure is
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 5: you know, kind of a Mexican treat. You've got a
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: whole cane sugar that is a staple in Mexico, So
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: use that. Two tablespoons of cinnamon, and that's going to
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 5: be divided once for your batter for lack of a
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: better word, and then one is for your topping. A
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  Speaker 5: tablespoon of butter melted. And then here's the fun part.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 5: One third of a cup of pork rimes crushed. So
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 5: basically you're going to do the same thing that you
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 5: did with the the turtle fat bombs. You're just gonna
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: beat that cream cheese in butter and vanilla together. In
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 5: a separate bowl. You're gonna put your one tablespoon of
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: cinnamon and one tablespoon of raw hocine sugar and one
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 5: tablespoon of melted butter. And so you're going to pour
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 5: this cinnamon sugar mixture onto the top of your cream
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 5: cheese and kind of swirl it gently together. So then
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 5: you're gonna cover this put this bowl covered in the
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 5: fridge for like twenty minutes. So in a small bowl,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 5: you're gonna mix together your poor crying crumbs and one
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: tablespoon of cinnamon and then the third of a cup
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 5: of the raw hocine sugar. So then you're going to
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 5: line a sheet pan with some parchment paper, get you
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 5: a little scoop. What they're suggesting is like a ping
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: pong size balls about a tablespoon, and and then put
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 5: that onto your your cookie sheet. Then you're gonna, you know,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 5: roll these individual balls in this pork line mixture, put
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 5: it back, you know, onto the sheet pan, and then
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 5: you can have these right away. You can store them
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: in the fridge or even in the freezer. So what
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 5: do y'all think about that one?
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  Speaker 2: They both sound good now I'm hungry. Both sound good, Susie.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: What do you use for a thickening agent? And the
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: reason I ask you let me fill the blank there
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: is I found this company called Chickadee Sauces, and every
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: one of them tastes good. And they said they had
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: all natural ingredients. They had really good ingredients, so I
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: would say they're probably on target. There they mentioned using
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: xanthem gum, and I know that's a thickening agent that's
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: kind of accepted worldwide. What do you use and what
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: do you think about that one?
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that one's okay. Sometimes I don't really care for
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 5: the texture. You can use arrowroots, you can use, of
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 5: course cornstarsing these things you need, at least with the
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 5: corn starts, you need to be careful. You need to
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 5: get it organic because you don't want a corn starch
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 5: that's made with a base of genetically modified possibly exposed
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 5: to glassy states, which is round up. So I generally
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: get those things at natural grocers or at Amazon. Arrowroots,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 5: corn starts. There is another one, and in some cases
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 5: some recipes it might be a good organic you know, gelatine,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 5: like an unflavored gelatine, which is good for you. But
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 5: exanthium gum. I don't have a problem with that, except
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 5: for about three years ago. I ran into my pantry
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 5: and I grabbed a mason jar and it had white
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 5: potter stuff in it, and I was making something, and
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 5: I said, what on earth what is this? This is
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 5: worse than the homemade taste that we used to make
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 5: back in the day. And I had grabbed xanthium gum,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: which you're gonna use about a quarter of a tea
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: spin instead of baking powder.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: Wow. Well, these guys, I think they made one of
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: these sauces with you in mine. The first sauce is
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: called Crazy Chick Honey Mustard Barbecue. The next one is
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: called fire Chick Moho Abenero hot Sauce. The next one
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: is Worst Chick German style ketchup. Then the next one
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: and I'm not saying Susie's name, Psycho Chick sweet Seracha,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: and then honey barbecue sauce, a honey buffalo sauce. All
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: of them tasted good. I tried them, and I told
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: the gentleman there I was going to talk about them
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: on the show for a minute, but very good, very
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: good prices. And I saw one thing on one of
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: them that said something about self fighting agent. And I'm
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: not sure if they're doing a natural like some people
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: do with celery to age something and do that. I
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: don't know, but everything tastes good. I'd say ninety nine
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: point nine percent of everything in there. I knew about, uh,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: the self fighting agent. I wasn't sure what they meant there,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: but everything tastes really good. I really liked the German ketchup.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: I never tried that before. I didn't even know what
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: it was, so that was kind of cool.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 5: So what are you saying when you say, are you
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 5: saying self fighting?
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, it said self fighting agent on one of
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: the bottles, only on one, and I don't remember which
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: one it was.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 5: But I don't know what. I try to make sure
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 5: that I don't eat anything with the not traits and
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 5: the sufis don't know what that means.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: Right, But there are some natural ones and that's you'll see. Yeah,
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: you'll see, oh, hot dogs does this lot and a
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: lot of meats. They'll say they did a a natural
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: uh word dismissing my head. Here, sure, what's that? Curing? Yeah, curing.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: You're right, thank you.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: And so there are some natural ones, and that's probably
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: what these guys are doing, because everything tastes the good.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: The ingredients look really great. And I bought this little
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: five pack to try all of them because I love
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: sauces like that, and it's very rare that I find
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: somebody that doesn't have canola oil or some crap in it.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: They didn't, so any if anybody's interested, it's Chickadeese Dees
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: sauces dot com and uh, pretty good stuff, all right, Bill,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: Anything on Susie's recipe.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 6: No, it's it sounds like something you and I couldn't make.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it sounds good. And now she's gonna tell
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: us she can't ship them to us because it's getting
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: too hot. Before she had some other excuse. So you know,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: what can I say? I don't remember. I think, Bill,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: you might have not been on the show. That night.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: Her husband was on the show, and I told him
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: that we heard out on the street that had she
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: not married him, that she would be ruling some third
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: world country right now?
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 6: Do you agree or did he manage to keep his
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 6: keep it to himself?
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: I think he agreed, but he wasn't sitting too close
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: to her. They had to be into different rooms where
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: she couldn't hit him right away because they had feedback
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: from the phones. So that was cool. And I told
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: him we've sent him many sympathy cards, but I didn't
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: know if they got there.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 5: No, I intercept them.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: All right, Susie, it's that time of the show. Anything
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: at all you'd like to talk about, go for it.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: I don't really know. I haven't really been. You know,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 5: Bill hit on it, the negativity, you know on TV.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 5: I I just don't want to look at it. I
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 5: don't want to hear about it. You know. I've got
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 5: me some Elon Musk issues, and I've got me some
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 5: Donald Trump issues.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: Well, if it makes you feel any better, they'd probably
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: have some Susie issues too, So it's okay.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 5: I really up that they even care. You know, I've
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 5: I've fantasized about being in the office with my blue
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 5: jeans and my boots and telling him listen here, mister president.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 5: So I don't know. Uh, I think good things are happening.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 5: It's definitely better than we would have under you know,
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 5: the marcist Kamala.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want him to fix this. Uh, daylight saving stuff.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: That's what irritates me. I want it fixed, but I
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: know I don't want.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 5: I don't want to go to war in Yemen, you know,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 5: I mm hmmm.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: We're not. They're just I think right now, they're just
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: putting out some fires in a few places.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 5: Well, I understand that it's interfering with intern national shipping,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: you know, and it doesn't take a you know, a
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 5: rocket scientist to figure out, you know, that could be
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 5: one of the culprits of you know, very expensive products
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 5: that we need. But that's only if you're buying them
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 5: from China. Of course, you know, they has to take
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 5: the long route.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 5: I get it, but I don't think there will ever
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 5: be a president that would I would check off every buck.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: Well, no, man. Yeah, And like Bill was talking about relationships,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: even before cell phones and the stupid social media, there's
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: nobody that you're one hundred percent in fact, sometimes opposites
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: and a little bit of stuff attract, So yeah, you can't.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't care who it is. The thing
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: that I don't understand today is the hatred online. I
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: mean I did like Joe Biden one bit. I didn't
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: like most of the policies and the things that were
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: going on. But I would never think about spending all
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: of my time telling people how much I hated that
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: he did this and did that. Who cares, you know,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: It's I just I'm blown away that people spend so
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: much time like that lady that used to be a
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: good friend and a patient three four, five, six times
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: a day because I post our show on all the
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: different stuff several times that it doesn't get posted on
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: automatically by spreaker, and I see this stuff popping up
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: all day and it's so negative. I just clicked a
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: little X and it goes away. I don't want to
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: read it no more.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 5: Not also block her. Other people will see it unless
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 5: you just block her, you know, from your page.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: But I guess I'll have to do that. I was
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: just hoping that maybe she'd stop hating so bad. Like
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: right now, they're talking about giving us extra money for
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: Social Security because they found out how much they saved
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: by all them dead people that were collecting, And tonight
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: they said something about we might get a five thousand
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: dollars check just because those just found a lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: So they said it's a good chance we're all going
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  Speaker 2: to get a little money, and that's kind of a
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  Speaker 2: nice thing. But you don't see any of them people
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  Speaker 2: that are posting all the hate, even bringing up it's
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  Speaker 2: just sad. I want to look for good stuff. I
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  Speaker 2: don't need the negatives and all the hate that just
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: where's your lifetime?
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  Speaker 5: Well, okay, so there's one thing that cracks me up. Now.
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  Speaker 5: I don't like people's tesla businesses, dealerships being vandalized and
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 5: blown up. I don't like people's cars, their cyber trucks,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 5: you know, being defaced and key the end, you know,
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  Speaker 5: everything else that they're doing. What's funny is these leftists
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 5: that get so enraged are the ones who said we
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 5: need to go to these battery operated vehicles them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were only doing that because everybody was
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: in bed with China and they're all filthy rich. I
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: heard Chuck Schumer screaming and hollering on the news today.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: I think it was telling everybody how he made it
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: with his two hands, and that's why he's so filthy rich.
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  Speaker 2: He worked hard and did it give me a break bill.
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  Speaker 2: We're at that time, Billy, if you got anything, we
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: better slide you in because Susy and I kind of
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: went off on that other social media hate stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so it's sort of a balance to what
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 6: you guys were talking about. But last week when I
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 6: was at Silver, they had in a vegetable section barb.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 6: I've seen roubarb in twenty years in living in this
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 6: little slice of paradise called Texas because it just doesn't
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 6: grow here. So I've been able to have rubarb for
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 6: a week and it's been great. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: My grandmother used to make me a rhubarb custard pie
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: every year from my birthday.
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  Speaker 6: Yep, yep.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. I love it. Good show, So anything else, we're
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: winding down here, guys, wind her down, that's good night.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate that our patient listener in the chat
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: room came in. That was really nice, and he said,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the show, and that's cool.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I like to take because you have to always got
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: to take care of patient privacy. So I never give
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: away any information that could make anybody know who it
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: was unless you're the person. Uh, But I always consider
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: those are good learning things for all of us, and
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: it gives me more feedback. Could I have done something
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: different better? Worse whatever I did and helps them think.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: And every once in a while this happened. Somebody gets
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: in and listens to the show and out of the
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: blue he said, Hey, that was me, and it's and
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: it's really sad. See this is the perfect example. Cholesterol
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: was fine, and they wanted to put him on lipitour.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: The cholesterol is to me low. It was one sixty
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: and we like one seventy five to two sixty or higher.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: That would concern me. And then they were still going
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: to put them on a medication because they decided to
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: keep lower in the number because there's so much money
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: to be made. If you make a billion at two
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: fifty and you lower it to two hundred, which is
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: what they did, you make a lot more money. And
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: then they lowered it again and it got so low
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: that they're telling him one sixty needs to be on
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: a cholesterol medicine. Come on, and his LDL was one
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: twelve and that's the good one, but they tell you
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: it's the bad one. And on my information LDL should
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: be one o four to one seventy nine. That was
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: the original numbers that the labs went through forever, and
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: they were trying to put him on a medicine. And
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: you talk about trust, Bill, that's why nobody trusts because
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: they get lied to by them people so much in
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: the name of money. Like Susie said, all right, guys, Well,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: any last thing.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 5: Susie, Yeah, not really one of the milk people that
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 5: I pick up milk for well only and he needs it.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 5: We'll only drink one gallon in two weeks because his
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 5: doctor said his cholesterol was too high.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: Oh that's ridiculous, Bill, Any last thing, All right, guys,
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 2: And I want to say thank you to our hidden
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: in the back room hiding out from Indiana, mister Steve O'Brien,
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: our technical producer in the back if, like I said, guys,
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: if you need him for anything, it's eight three zero
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: nine nine eight four three eight one, and he will
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: take good care of you. And as you're watching and
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: listening to us, he's doing all that. Him and Susie
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: have worked together and they've been a dynamic duo. So
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: really good stuff. So we thank him, Thank Susie, Thank
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: you Bill. I know you guys love him as much
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: as I do, and without the being here would not
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: be the quality show it is. So May God bless
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: you all. With health and happiness, and keep your lives peaceful,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: free and safe. And of course you know it's time
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: for good scotch, good cigars, and good night, good night.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 6: At all.
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  Speaker 4: Seems the love I've known me has always been the
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 4: most destructive kind. Yes, that's why now I feel so
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 4: opened before my time, Yes today. When I was young,
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 4: the taste of life was sweeps rain upon my tongue.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 4: I teased at length, as if it were a foolish game,
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 4: the way the breeze may tease a candle flame.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: A thousand dreams.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 4: I dreamed, the splendid things I planned. I always built
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 4: to last on weekend, shifting sand.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: I lived by night.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 4: And shunned the naked light of day and all.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 7: And now I see how the years rattled way yesterday
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 7: when I was young, And so many for
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 4: Me songs and we're ready to be sung, and so
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 4: many pleasures land stop