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Crafted with Purpose w/ Leah Spiros · Something Extra

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  Lisa Nichols: I'm thrilled to have Leah Spyros on the show today.
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  Lisa Nichols: Leah is a calligrapher, engraver, painter, live event artist,
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  Lisa Nichols: and the owner of Raft and Written.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, welcome to the Something Extra podcast, Leah Sparrows.
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  Lisa Nichols: I'm so delighted that you are joining me today.
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  Leah Spiros: I'm so glad to be here.
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  Leah Spiros: I'm excited about this.
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  Leah Spiros: I love listening to it.
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  Leah Spiros: So it's an honor to be a part of it.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, I can't wait to introduce you to our listeners.
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  Lisa Nichols: So, Leah, you and I are connected in several ways.
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  Lisa Nichols: We are both on the board of directors for Rooted Sisters, and I think
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  Lisa Nichols: that's how we first met.
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  Leah Spiros: Yes.
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  Leah Spiros: That's probably where we connected.
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  Leah Spiros: We actually first met when you spoke at a little black book event
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  Leah Spiros: at a luncheon
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  Leah Spiros: a few years ago now.
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  Lisa Nichols: Oh, my.
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  Lisa Nichols: I remember that now.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
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  Lisa Nichols: That's when we first met.
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  Lisa Nichols: And then yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: And then we've done a lot of things since then because I,
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  Lisa Nichols: you know, our listeners will see in the picture that I have
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  Lisa Nichols: been given several of your personalized gifts over
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  Lisa Nichols: the years, and I just love them.
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  Lisa Nichols: I have them in my office here.
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  Lisa Nichols: And, so, yeah, we've just been and then you
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  Lisa Nichols: recently my girls have a business, Kindred Spirits Designs.
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  Leah Spiros: Yes.
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  Leah Spiros: Love it.
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  Lisa Nichols: You were so amazing.
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  Lisa Nichols: You've supported them and championed them so beautifully, Leah.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I just cannot tell you from a mama's heart how much that means
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  Lisa Nichols: to me, but you recently did some calligraphy for them for an event they
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  Lisa Nichols: were doing and just appreciate you so much.
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  Leah Spiros: It was an honor.
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  Leah Spiros: I love supporting young entrepreneurs at Paige and Ally are going
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  Leah Spiros: places, and I love that they have that connection as sisters
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  Leah Spiros: and in spirit, and they're both creative.
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  Leah Spiros: They're making beautiful goods, so I love supporting that.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well well, just a little plug for Kindred Spirits designs.
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  Lisa Nichols: But let's we've got a lot to talk about, but I would love for
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  Lisa Nichols: you to take me back to the beginning.
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  Lisa Nichols: So how did your love for art really take
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  Lisa Nichols: root?
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  Leah Spiros: You know, I don't know exactly where it began, but as far back
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  Leah Spiros: as I can remember, I think my mom would probably say about three years
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  Leah Spiros: old, I was sketching.
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  Leah Spiros: I would watch Olympics and gymnastics, and I would draw
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  Leah Spiros: sketch, like, the motion of the gymnasts going across the screen doing a flip.
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  Leah Spiros: My mom writes beautiful cursive and so did her mom, and so I
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  Leah Spiros: really wanted to write like that.
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  Leah Spiros: I just never pieced it all together as this could be my future.
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  Leah Spiros: I just knew that I loved it.
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  Leah Spiros: Anything pretty, anything
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  Leah Spiros: beauty related, creating that, loved it.
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  Lisa Nichols: I love that so much.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I know you talk about your mom and how inspirational
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  Lisa Nichols: and influential your mom has been on your journey.
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  Lisa Nichols: And Absolutely.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Leah Spiros: Yeah.
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  Leah Spiros: My mom was championed.
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  Leah Spiros: I mean, really, any dream that I can think of,
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  Leah Spiros: like, mom, let me put on this performance for you.
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  Leah Spiros: She's like, okay.
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  Leah Spiros: Her, my grandmother.
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  Leah Spiros: And just
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  Leah Spiros: just to support it, I can remember I actually had my own kindred spirits
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  Leah Spiros: moment.
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  Leah Spiros: When I was a kid, I actually made bracelets, beaded bracelets for Christmas
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  Leah Spiros: with a jingle bell on them.
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  Leah Spiros: And my mom took those and sold them at her office.
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  Leah Spiros: And just, you know, as a kid, that really makes you feel
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  Leah Spiros: believed in and, like, well, I can do anything.
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  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
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  Leah Spiros: So yes.
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  Leah Spiros: And she's just a woman of the word, a woman of the Lord.
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  Leah Spiros: She loves the Lord, and just wisdom spills out when she speaks.
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  Leah Spiros: So I'm very blessed to call her my
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  Lisa Nichols: mom.
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  Lisa Nichols: Oh, that's so beautiful.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, I can say the same thing about my mom.
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  Lisa Nichols: She really was
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  Speaker 0: inspirational
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  Lisa Nichols: to me.
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  Lisa Nichols: In fact, I can't you can't see it here, but on my
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  Lisa Nichols: my mom did all kinds of crafts.
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  Lisa Nichols: She was an excellent seamstress.
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  Lisa Nichols: Excellent.
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, she made a lot of my clothes.
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  Lisa Nichols: I've got a purse on my, bookcase here that my
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  Lisa Nichols: mom decoupage when I was a little you know, she did decoupage.
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  Lisa Nichols: She did all that, but she always had me working with my hands.
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  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, I have a real love for the performing arts.
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  Lisa Nichols: I have a real love for the fine arts, and she always had
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  Lisa Nichols: me working with my hands and,
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  Lisa Nichols: doing all kinds of music lessons and things like that.
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  Lisa Nichols: But also just had something going all the time.
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  Lisa Nichols: I was learning needlepoint or doing something all the time.
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  Lisa Nichols: But now she did try to teach me how to sew clothes.
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  Leah Spiros: How'd that go?
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  Lisa Nichols: And I just never really got the hang of it.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know, I'm sure if I'd maybe kept after it, maybe I could have
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  Lisa Nichols: improved.
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  Lisa Nichols: But, yeah, I pretty much left that to her.
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  Lisa Nichols: But, I definitely think that love for art, really,
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  Lisa Nichols: I think she inspired that.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I think that's a good reminder for us what you just
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  Lisa Nichols: said about your mom.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know, for us and for those listeners out there with kiddos, you know,
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  Lisa Nichols: let them explore things and champion whatever because you have no
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  Lisa Nichols: idea where that's gonna take them.
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  Leah Spiros: Absolutely.
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  Leah Spiros: Every mind has so much potential to make great things.
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  Leah Spiros: It might not always seem to be what we quantify as creative,
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  Leah Spiros: but it's expressed differently for every person.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right.
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  Lisa Nichols: And even if it's not, you know, what they end up doing
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  Lisa Nichols: later on, I think that love can come out in different
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  Lisa Nichols: ways.
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  Lisa Nichols: Like, I think about kids that love to draw.
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  Lisa Nichols: Maybe they're gonna be a graphics designer one day or maybe
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  Lisa Nichols: design clothing.
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  Lisa Nichols: Who knows?
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  Lisa Nichols: But I think all of those experiences are really important.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, you, have a degree in interior design.
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  Leah Spiros: I do.
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  Lisa Nichols: From Maryville University.
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  Lisa Nichols: And upon graduating, you took a job as a store planner at Save A
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  Lisa Nichols: Lot.
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  Lisa Nichols: Now I don't really know the job of a store planner, but I'm thinking
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  Lisa Nichols: you may have done the layout of the store and the
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  Lisa Nichols: how things are presented in the store.
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  Lisa Nichols: Is that what a store planner would do?
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  Leah Spiros: That would be a good part of it.
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  Leah Spiros: Another part would be, like, the egress, really understanding how people move
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  Leah Spiros: throughout a space, throughout a store.
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  Leah Spiros: You know, there's intentionality of why the produce is up front and why the
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  Leah Spiros: milk is in the back.
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  Leah Spiros: And getting to be on the backside of that, like, behind the scenes with
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  Leah Spiros: that, I learned the purpose in every, like, grocery store design
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  Leah Spiros: and why some work and why some don't.
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  Leah Spiros: So it was a very,
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  Leah Spiros: enriching job because it just taught me to see spaces, specifically
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  Leah Spiros: one that we use every day,
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  Leah Spiros: differently and with more depth of insight.
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  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: That is awesome.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, in twenty eighteen, you took that leap onto the entrepreneurial wagon.
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  Leah Spiros: I did.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: And founded, wrapped, and written.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know, what made you finally decide to take that leap?
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  Lisa Nichols: And I also want to know, I I don't know if you've been asked
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  Lisa Nichols: this before, but where did the name come from?
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  Leah Spiros: Oh, yes.
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  Leah Spiros: I don't get asked that asked that often.
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  Leah Spiros: So,
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  Leah Spiros: I took that leap in twenty eighteen after my husband and I
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  Leah Spiros: took some time to pray about it.
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  Leah Spiros: We got married the year before, and my husband already had a kiddo.
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  Leah Spiros: He had two, but one was an actual kiddo.
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  Leah Spiros: And,
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  Leah Spiros: really, on the day of our wedding, I just remember having this really strong
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  Leah Spiros: feeling of, okay.
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  Leah Spiros: I don't know that this I think the season is over.
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  Leah Spiros: I knew I always wanted to be present and available to my kids wherever
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  Leah Spiros: they came from.
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  Leah Spiros: Just I want it to be accessible, and and I wanted them to know
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  Leah Spiros: that too.
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  Leah Spiros: Not just me, but for them to know if I call home, mom's gonna
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  Leah Spiros: be there.
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  Leah Spiros: If if the teacher calls home, she's gonna be there.
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  Leah Spiros: Like, if I get in and I need help with my homework, she's going
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  Leah Spiros: to be there.
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  Leah Spiros: I just really had a high value on that.
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  Leah Spiros: And so, we prayed about it a while.
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  Leah Spiros: We tried to look at some remote options through my current job, which at
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  Leah Spiros: that time, I was doing commercial kitchens for another company,
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  Leah Spiros: back of house design, and it just didn't work with their model for me
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  Leah Spiros: to be able to be remote.
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  Leah Spiros: And so we took a year, a solid year, prayed about it.
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  Leah Spiros: My husband gave me some opportunities to, like, hey.
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  Leah Spiros: Take some time off and, like, just create and see if you like doing
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  Leah Spiros: this all of the time.
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  Leah Spiros: Like, it's different when you are doing it for a day or two, but,
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  Leah Spiros: like, take two weeks.
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  Leah Spiros: And I couldn't get enough of it.
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  Leah Spiros: I loved it.
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  Leah Spiros: And he's like, okay.
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  Leah Spiros: I think I think we can do that.
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  Leah Spiros: And so we felt connected and unified on it at the same time.
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  Leah Spiros: And I put in a, like, a two months notice to make sure they
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  Leah Spiros: had time to transition.
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  Leah Spiros: And then I stepped into my first show the week after my last day.
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  Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
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  Lisa Nichols: You're part of the so did you have product?
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  Lisa Nichols: Did you have product at that point or was it a live event?
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  Leah Spiros: It was, it was product.
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  Leah Spiros: So in that time, in the early days of my business, I was more
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  Leah Spiros: focused on home decor.
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  Leah Spiros: And, I was doing a lot of, like, scripture passage signage
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  Leah Spiros: for people to hang in their homes that were just calligraphy based or pretty
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  Leah Spiros: lettering.
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  Leah Spiros: And that was my focus, and then I went into stationery.
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  Leah Spiros: So it was a lot of home goods that was that was more a
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  Leah Spiros: main focus at that time.
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  Leah Spiros: Mhmm.
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  Leah Spiros: Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: Wow.
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  Lisa Nichols: So, Leah, let me ask you.
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  Lisa Nichols: What was going on emotionally for you from trans
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  Lisa Nichols: you know, transferring from this corporate role that you'd had, the security
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  Lisa Nichols: of that onto the entrepreneurial wagon?
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, what was going on emotionally?
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  Lisa Nichols: Were there some transitions that you had to kinda work through?
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  Leah Spiros: Absolutely.
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  Leah Spiros: I will say I did have peace and probably because I was so purpose
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  Leah Spiros: driven in it.
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  Leah Spiros: It wasn't even just about let me launch my business, but it was let
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  Leah Spiros: me be good for my family.
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  Leah Spiros: So that gave me a lot of peace and just knowing that we had
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  Leah Spiros: prayed about it and felt so secure in it.
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  Leah Spiros: But you do have those uncertainties of will someone show
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  Leah Spiros: up.
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  Leah Spiros: This one got rained out.
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  Leah Spiros: I don't know if this is going to yield as much as this last
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  Leah Spiros: show went.
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  Leah Spiros: I'm finding what areas work best for me.
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  Leah Spiros: There were so many of those components that I couldn't guarantee that were outside
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  Leah Spiros: of my control.
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  Leah Spiros: And after years of having a paycheck from someone, decades
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  Leah Spiros: of having a paycheck from someone, that's a big leap
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  Leah Spiros: to know it all depends on me, obviously, with the help of the Lord.
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  Leah Spiros: But still, I have to make that hustle.
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  Leah Spiros: I have to make that grind to make those connections.
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  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: It is it is definitely risky, but when you take
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  Lisa Nichols: the time to do it the way you did it, you know, the peace,
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  Lisa Nichols: you know, was there and you knew that, hey, you know, me
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  Lisa Nichols: plus God,
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  Lisa Nichols: we can do this.
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  Lisa Nichols: And and to your point, you had a greater purpose.
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  Lisa Nichols: You had a greater purpose that was driving you.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
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  Lisa Nichols: So I love that.
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  Lisa Nichols: Do can you share, in this journey, in this entrepreneurial
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  Lisa Nichols: journey, can you share a moment
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  Lisa Nichols: maybe in time where, Leah, you knew that you knew that
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  Lisa Nichols: you knew that you were doing what you were made to do?
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  Leah Spiros: Wow.
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  Leah Spiros: I mean,
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  Leah Spiros: that moment is is multiplied because it's it's almost every time
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  Leah Spiros: I'm creating something.
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  Leah Spiros: There's an an unspeakable joy that comes from that
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  Leah Spiros: level of expression for me, And it comes back to
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  Leah Spiros: childhood, like I said, of making things, of creating things, of doing
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  Leah Spiros: making things that are attractive that bring people joy.
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  Leah Spiros: That's really what it comes down to.
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  Leah Spiros: And so whenever I can do that, whether it's planning an event or
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  Leah Spiros: creating a piece or writing a script, whatever,
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  Leah Spiros: that gives me a great sense of joy.
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  Leah Spiros: But there's something about doing it, working with my hands,
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  Leah Spiros: that also makes that very,
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  Leah Spiros: very fulfilling and helping me just feel confirmed, and this is
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  Leah Spiros: absolutely where I can be.
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  Leah Spiros: And I'm an extrovert.
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  Leah Spiros: I like people.
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  Leah Spiros: So, you know, I'm in my home studio, and I'm just going at it,
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  Leah Spiros: But I still have that sense of joy and comfort and goodness because
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  Leah Spiros: I know I'm doing something that on the other end, someone's going to have
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  Leah Spiros: joy.
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  Leah Spiros: They're gonna feel seen.
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  Leah Spiros: They're gonna feel valued, and they're going to be appreciated.
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  Leah Spiros: And I played a small part.
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  Leah Spiros: I got to help.
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  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: I wanna talk about it more.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, I I love that.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I've always thought, like, that process of creating
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  Lisa Nichols: something from nothing.
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  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: There is something about that.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: But, you know, Jordan Rayner is one of
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  Lisa Nichols: my podcast guest and a popular author.
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  Leah Spiros: Yes.
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  Lisa Nichols: Maya, and I love I love love love what he says about
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  Lisa Nichols: this.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know, our father is a creator.
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  Leah Spiros: That's right.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know?
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  Lisa Nichols: And we were meant.
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  Lisa Nichols: We were born to create.
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  Lisa Nichols: And whether that is creating in the way that you are or creating
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  Lisa Nichols: a new product or a business or children.
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  Lisa Nichols: Whatever the case is, we are co creators with him.
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  Lisa Nichols: And, you know, that's the way God wired us.
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  Lisa Nichols: It's it's a beautiful thing to be able to to participate in that,
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  Lisa Nichols: I think.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you this.
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  Lisa Nichols: Now you had this, interior design background.
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  Lisa Nichols: How did that really influence your work today?
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  Leah Spiros: You know, so much of design is some basic
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  Leah Spiros: elements.
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  Leah Spiros: There's line, there's space, there's placement, there's color,
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  Leah Spiros: there's aesthetic.
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  Leah Spiros: All of those basic principles that are the foundation of design play into
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  Leah Spiros: into
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  Leah Spiros: what I produce and and the output.
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  Leah Spiros: So I can look at something or I can have a client ask me,
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  Leah Spiros: well, what do you think about this?
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  Leah Spiros: And I can say, you know, those colors will complement each other wonderfully.
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  Leah Spiros: And if we add this, it will make that you know, you said that
• 15:35
  Leah Spiros: they really enjoy this kind of flower.
• 15:37
  Leah Spiros: If we incorporate that into it, I think that will make it pop and
• 15:40
  Leah Spiros: still give attention to this, you know, and and then they get excited
• 15:44
  Leah Spiros: because I can speak a language that,
• 15:47
  Leah Spiros: I can translate their vision and thoughts into
• 15:52
  Leah Spiros: reality in language that is executed.
• 15:55
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 15:55
  Lisa Nichols: Oh, that's so good.
• 15:57
  Lisa Nichols: That's so good.
• 15:58
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I know, like, so much of your work and the work that's in
• 16:01
  Lisa Nichols: the picture that our listeners are gonna see is a work of calligraphy.
• 16:06
  Leah Spiros: Okay.
• 16:07
  Lisa Nichols: And some people think calligraphy and cursive are the same, but they're not.
• 16:10
  Lisa Nichols: You're not.
• 16:12
  Lisa Nichols: Tell our listeners a little bit of the difference.
• 16:14
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, you know, I I would love to hear it from your mouth.
• 16:17
  Speaker 0: What's the difference?
• 16:18
  Leah Spiros: Yeah.
• 16:19
  Leah Spiros: The main difference is that cursive is a continuous line.
• 16:23
  Leah Spiros: You're writing if you're writing your name, it's all flowing into
• 16:27
  Leah Spiros: one.
• 16:27
  Leah Spiros: With calligraphy, it's really a series of strokes that come together
• 16:31
  Leah Spiros: to build the letter and to build the word.
• 16:35
  Leah Spiros: Mhmm.
• 16:35
  Leah Spiros: So you are lifting your pen.
• 16:37
  Leah Spiros: You're lifting your pencil sometimes.
• 16:39
  Leah Spiros: It is not just one line.
• 16:40
  Leah Spiros: You're repositioning to get angles and create that,
• 16:44
  Leah Spiros: continuity in your piece.
• 16:46
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 16:47
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 16:47
  Lisa Nichols: That's good.
• 16:49
  Lisa Nichols: Tell us about,
• 16:51
  Lisa Nichols: can you work through the process, you know, from concept to
• 16:55
  Lisa Nichols: final piece?
• 16:56
  Lisa Nichols: And first of all, you have to have a client.
• 16:59
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 16:59
  Leah Spiros: You have
• 17:00
  Lisa Nichols: to have a customer that comes to you.
• 17:01
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 17:02
  Lisa Nichols: I just received a beautiful,
• 17:06
  Lisa Nichols: personalized wine bottle.
• 17:08
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 17:09
  Lisa Nichols: Progress sixty four, for a keynote that I did last year.
• 17:13
  Lisa Nichols: And did they come to you with that particular concept?
• 17:18
  Lisa Nichols: Or did you work with them to figure out what that could be?
• 17:22
  Leah Spiros: A little of both.
• 17:23
  Leah Spiros: So I've done some work with them before for gifting, and the
• 17:27
  Leah Spiros: go to tends to be the engraved wine bottle, which is a very special
• 17:31
  Leah Spiros: bespoke piece.
• 17:32
  Leah Spiros: And so, they gave me some words.
• 17:34
  Leah Spiros: We we workshopped a little bit about how many and where
• 17:39
  Leah Spiros: it would fit because, again, we want a strong design.
• 17:41
  Leah Spiros: We don't want just words, and it all just got on there.
• 17:45
  Leah Spiros: We want it to be beautiful and make sense.
• 17:48
  Leah Spiros: And so, we worked out what those needed to be, and
• 17:52
  Leah Spiros: I think there's a lot of value in the recipient's name being prominent,
• 17:56
  Leah Spiros: not the company or the giver's name.
• 18:00
  Leah Spiros: That says a lot to that recipient about where they're valued or prioritized.
• 18:04
  Leah Spiros: Right?
• 18:05
  Leah Spiros: And so, once I had that content, I
• 18:09
  Leah Spiros: sketched it out to see how I felt about how it looked.
• 18:12
  Leah Spiros: I have the bottle shape, and I I put the pieces on there and
• 18:16
  Leah Spiros: looked at how it would stack.
• 18:18
  Leah Spiros: And then I pulled out my engraver and
• 18:22
  Lisa Nichols: Went to work.
• 18:23
  Lisa Nichols: And Yeah.
• 18:25
  Leah Spiros: Went to work.
• 18:25
  Leah Spiros: Went to work.
• 18:26
  Lisa Nichols: And and I was a recipient, and I can tell you I had great
• 18:29
  Lisa Nichols: joy because it was a personalized piece specifically
• 18:34
  Lisa Nichols: for me commemorating that date, which was just so special.
• 18:38
  Lisa Nichols: Let me, you do a lot of personalized live
• 18:42
  Lisa Nichols: events too, Leah.
• 18:44
  Lisa Nichols: Can you tell our listeners about that and what does that process look like?
• 18:48
  Leah Spiros: Absolutely.
• 18:49
  Leah Spiros: So, one of the things that's really helpful for any company is
• 18:53
  Leah Spiros: to have brand activations.
• 18:54
  Leah Spiros: It gets eyes on your brand.
• 18:57
  Leah Spiros: It, provides your clients, customers, or potential clients
• 19:01
  Leah Spiros: and customers a sense of connectivity and engagement, and,
• 19:05
  Leah Spiros: and it's a value add.
• 19:07
  Leah Spiros: And so what companies will do is book me for an amount of time.
• 19:10
  Leah Spiros: They will let me know which service they want.
• 19:12
  Leah Spiros: Do they want calligraphy on cards?
• 19:14
  Leah Spiros: Do they want pieces engraved?
• 19:16
  Leah Spiros: Do they want product painting?
• 19:19
  Leah Spiros: And then once they've confirmed that, then I will bring my little
• 19:23
  Leah Spiros: case.
• 19:24
  Leah Spiros: And they provide the product, and I provide the service, and
• 19:28
  Leah Spiros: the clients or the guests, get the gifts.
• 19:33
  Leah Spiros: So, coming up, like, this weekend, we've got Mother's Day coming up, and,
• 19:38
  Leah Spiros: Neiman is going to have a Mother's Day event.
• 19:40
  Leah Spiros: And so in their fragrance department, when someone purchases a fragrance,
• 19:44
  Leah Spiros: they automatically will get this gift with purchase, so to speak, of having it
• 19:49
  Leah Spiros: engraved.
• 19:50
  Leah Spiros: So they'll have all kinds of messages like, happy birthday, mom, or I love
• 19:53
  Leah Spiros: you, mom, or I appreciate you in my life, and I'll engrave that.
• 19:57
  Leah Spiros: So then that fragrance becomes a keepsake because
• 20:01
  Leah Spiros: they don't throw those away.
• 20:03
  Leah Spiros: And I've had so many people tell me, I'm never throwing this away.
• 20:07
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 20:07
  Lisa Nichols: Exactly.
• 20:08
  Leah Spiros: And a lot of those luxury fragrance bottles are beautiful anyway.
• 20:10
  Leah Spiros: Right?
• 20:11
  Leah Spiros: And so that piece that just makes it that
• 20:15
  Leah Spiros: great conversation piece and and visual for that dresser top, it's
• 20:19
  Leah Spiros: that much more special.
• 20:20
  Lisa Nichols: So cool.
• 20:21
  Lisa Nichols: That is so cool.
• 20:22
  Lisa Nichols: We've been at events before, Leah, where there was an artist there.
• 20:26
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 20:28
  Lisa Nichols: And with a blank canvas and you're not really sure what's going to be,
• 20:32
  Lisa Nichols: you know, on the canvas at the end.
• 20:34
  Lisa Nichols: But that's that just always adds such a special element, I believe,
• 20:38
  Lisa Nichols: to to a live event.
• 20:39
  Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
• 20:41
  Lisa Nichols: I have to ask you this.
• 20:43
  Lisa Nichols: How do you personally stay inspired creatively?
• 20:47
  Lisa Nichols: And do you ever experience creator's block?
• 20:50
  Lisa Nichols: You know, there's writer's block.
• 20:52
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 20:53
  Lisa Nichols: Do you ever experience that block?
• 20:55
  Lisa Nichols: And if you do, how do you get yourself out of it?
• 20:58
  Lisa Nichols: How do you stay inspired?
• 21:00
  Leah Spiros: Yeah.
• 21:00
  Leah Spiros: I think the answer to both of those kind of goes together.
• 21:03
  Leah Spiros: So I do have creative block every now and then, and that
• 21:07
  Leah Spiros: typically comes when I'm forcing the issue.
• 21:10
  Leah Spiros: If I am trying to make myself make something, like, come up
• 21:14
  Leah Spiros: with an idea, come up with a concept,
• 21:17
  Leah Spiros: with such wondrous pressure driven creativity, you know, you're
• 21:21
  Leah Spiros: growing grapefruit.
• 21:22
  Leah Spiros: And so,
• 21:24
  Leah Spiros: I
• 21:26
  Leah Spiros: try to gain space, whatever that looks like.
• 21:28
  Leah Spiros: Maybe it's stepping outside for a moment, maybe it's getting in the word
• 21:32
  Leah Spiros: and finding a scripture like a psalm is always a great source
• 21:36
  Leah Spiros: of inspiration for me.
• 21:38
  Leah Spiros: Going to the Botanical Gardens, going to Forest Park, going to pretty spaces.
• 21:43
  Leah Spiros: If I can seek beauty outside myself, I can receive what I need to
• 21:47
  Leah Spiros: create more for others.
• 21:49
  Lisa Nichols: Oh, that's great.
• 21:51
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I have found that before, like, with writing.
• 21:54
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 21:54
  Leah Spiros: You
• 21:54
  Lisa Nichols: know, taking a walk in the park and just really
• 21:58
  Lisa Nichols: letting my senses Yes.
• 22:00
  Lisa Nichols: Just really hone in on what I'm hearing
• 22:03
  Leah Spiros: Yes.
• 22:04
  Lisa Nichols: What I'm seeing.
• 22:07
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 22:07
  Lisa Nichols: I've I've just gotten so many lessons just from
• 22:11
  Lisa Nichols: slowing down and observing, I feel, sometimes.
• 22:15
  Lisa Nichols: So that's good.
• 22:17
  Lisa Nichols: Well, you know, you say that your business was born from discovering the good
• 22:21
  Lisa Nichols: in God's word, and I know that you are a faith filled woman.
• 22:26
  Lisa Nichols: In fact, I don't know if we'll have a picture of this, but behind
• 22:30
  Lisa Nichols: Leah, there you see there's a whole wall of writing.
• 22:34
  Lisa Nichols: And I know from knowing Leah, that's all scripture.
• 22:37
  Leah Spiros: Yes.
• 22:40
  Lisa Nichols: How has your faith really influenced your creative process
• 22:44
  Lisa Nichols: and what you're doing?
• 22:45
  Leah Spiros: One of my favorite passages comes from Exodus, and it
• 22:49
  Leah Spiros: talks about it's when they're starting to work on the temple, and God
• 22:53
  Leah Spiros: is giving directions, and he is calling them to specifically work
• 22:58
  Leah Spiros: in, quote, artistic designs.
• 23:02
  Leah Spiros: There is something beautiful about knowing that the creator still perpetuated
• 23:06
  Leah Spiros: creating in his creation.
• 23:09
  Leah Spiros: Right?
• 23:10
  Leah Spiros: It just keeps going.
• 23:11
  Leah Spiros: And so feeling like I'm on mission with that just
• 23:17
  Leah Spiros: it just blows everything wide open.
• 23:19
  Leah Spiros: And, one of my other favorite passages is Philippians four eight,
• 23:23
  Leah Spiros: and it talks about thinking on whatever is true, noble, right,
• 23:27
  Leah Spiros: pure, lovely, and admirable.
• 23:30
  Leah Spiros: I like those components to be in what I do and what I put
• 23:33
  Leah Spiros: out.
• 23:33
  Leah Spiros: And so,
• 23:35
  Leah Spiros: you know, I will connect with the Lord and talk to him about designs.
• 23:39
  Leah Spiros: I will ask him when I have creative block.
• 23:41
  Leah Spiros: Like, god, why can't I not get past this?
• 23:43
  Leah Spiros: Like, what do I need to do right now?
• 23:46
  Leah Spiros: I try to pray over the recipients of the gifts that they'll be blessed,
• 23:50
  Leah Spiros: that they will feel loved.
• 23:52
  Leah Spiros: I don't know if it's gonna be a piece that changes their mind about
• 23:55
  Leah Spiros: a life choice or, you know, or makes them feel
• 23:59
  Leah Spiros: better in a day that was just completely felt wrong for them.
• 24:03
  Leah Spiros: And so if I'm saying missional, then I've gotta remember
• 24:08
  Leah Spiros: where my mission is coming from.
• 24:09
  Leah Spiros: I'm an I'm an ambassadress, and so I wanna make sure
• 24:13
  Leah Spiros: that I'm receiving what I need from him in his word and in my
• 24:17
  Leah Spiros: community communing with him to be able to give my best
• 24:22
  Leah Spiros: in excellence to other people because that's what he gave to me.
• 24:25
  Leah Spiros: Mhmm.
• 24:25
  Lisa Nichols: That's a mic drop.
• 24:27
  Lisa Nichols: Thank you, sister.
• 24:29
  Lisa Nichols: That's a mic drop.
• 24:30
  Lisa Nichols: I was gonna ask you about you've already quoted a couple of
• 24:34
  Lisa Nichols: scriptures, but, you know, the entrepreneurial journey
• 24:38
  Lisa Nichols: is not for the faint of heart.
• 24:40
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, there are times where,
• 24:43
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, it we've been in business for thirty one years, Leah, and I
• 24:47
  Lisa Nichols: can tell you almost weekly there's something new that's come up that we have
• 24:51
  Lisa Nichols: not had to deal with before.
• 24:52
  Lisa Nichols: And, you know, it can sometimes be really it's not all,
• 24:57
  Lisa Nichols: unicorns and rainbows.
• 24:58
  Lisa Nichols: It can be really scary or frustrating or, you know,
• 25:02
  Lisa Nichols: disappointing Absolutely.
• 25:04
  Lisa Nichols: Sometimes.
• 25:05
  Lisa Nichols: Are there anchor scriptures that you hold on to in
• 25:10
  Lisa Nichols: those really hard times that help you?
• 25:12
  Leah Spiros: How much time time do we have?
• 25:16
  Leah Spiros: Yes.
• 25:17
  Leah Spiros: There are.
• 25:17
  Leah Spiros: Yes.
• 25:18
  Leah Spiros: There are.
• 25:18
  Leah Spiros: I you know, and I can even right now, I can just go to
• 25:21
  Leah Spiros: my wall.
• 25:22
  Leah Spiros: I'm looking to my right, and I have, Matthew six, and
• 25:26
  Leah Spiros: it says, look at the birds, consider the lilies.
• 25:28
  Leah Spiros: Are you not of more value than they?
• 25:32
  Leah Spiros: Or but seek first the kingdom of god,
• 25:36
  Leah Spiros: and all these things will be added to you.
• 25:37
  Leah Spiros: I, you know, that reminds me to start my structure well.
• 25:41
  Leah Spiros: Like, I try to begin the day committing it to the Lord and his
• 25:44
  Leah Spiros: agenda.
• 25:45
  Leah Spiros: I have my plan of what needs to happen that day, but he might
• 25:48
  Leah Spiros: have you know what?
• 25:49
  Leah Spiros: That client's actually gonna need to talk to you for a minute.
• 25:52
  Leah Spiros: I need to be available to that.
• 25:54
  Leah Spiros: And if I'm focused on my agenda, if I've not sought him first, I
• 25:57
  Leah Spiros: can't be prepared or have the capacity I need to do that.
• 26:01
  Leah Spiros: So
• 26:02
  Leah Spiros: Definitely that one.
• 26:04
  Leah Spiros: And one of my favorites too is from Luke, and it says,
• 26:08
  Leah Spiros: and he told them a parable to the effect that they ought always to
• 26:12
  Leah Spiros: pray and not lose heart.
• 26:16
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 26:17
  Lisa Nichols: Pray for me and not lose heart.
• 26:19
  Leah Spiros: Always pray and not lose heart.
• 26:21
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Lisa Nichols: I think about, you know, there's ones for me too.
• 26:25
  Lisa Nichols: I think about, you know, I look to the hills.
• 26:27
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 26:28
  Lisa Nichols: I know where my hope comes from.
• 26:29
  Leah Spiros: Yes.
• 26:30
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 26:31
  Lisa Nichols: And, yeah, I say, you know, we we walk through this
• 26:35
  Lisa Nichols: life and sometimes there's valleys and sometimes there's summits.
• 26:39
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 26:39
  Lisa Nichols: But we never walk alone.
• 26:42
  Lisa Nichols: We know that it's with us, and that always is encouragement to me.
• 26:45
  Lisa Nichols: Even in the tough times.
• 26:47
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 26:50
  Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you this.
• 26:52
  Lisa Nichols: You know, we've already talked about the personalization of these pieces,
• 26:56
  Lisa Nichols: but, Leah, why do you think that people are so drawn
• 27:01
  Lisa Nichols: to these personalized handcrafted pieces in this very
• 27:06
  Lisa Nichols: digital world that we're living in now?
• 27:10
  Leah Spiros: Because it's digital, because technology is not a person.
• 27:16
  Leah Spiros: It might be created by people, and it
• 27:20
  Leah Spiros: obviously has its place and we need it.
• 27:22
  Leah Spiros: That is a need for our world as it operates today.
• 27:25
  Leah Spiros: But,
• 27:27
  Leah Spiros: no nothing artificial can replace a person because we
• 27:31
  Leah Spiros: have spirits and hearts, and we need things that speak to our spirits
• 27:36
  Leah Spiros: and our hearts and our souls.
• 27:39
  Leah Spiros: And that connection just as much as it's valuable to make
• 27:43
  Leah Spiros: sure that you don't just FaceTime your friend, but try to get together in
• 27:46
  Leah Spiros: person every so often to make an eye to eye connection,
• 27:50
  Leah Spiros: to be able to get that hug in person, to give that hug.
• 27:54
  Leah Spiros: All of that is re restoring our souls and resetting that,
• 27:58
  Leah Spiros: and we just we cannot get that from a download.
• 28:02
  Lisa Nichols: That's good.
• 28:03
  Lisa Nichols: That is so good.
• 28:04
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 28:05
  Lisa Nichols: I know for me, Jenny Hill, you know, my
• 28:10
  Lisa Nichols: my right hand woman, I've gotten so many beautiful
• 28:14
  Lisa Nichols: handcrafted things from her, like, over the years, afghans
• 28:18
  Lisa Nichols: and ornaments and all types of things.
• 28:22
  Lisa Nichols: And just, it's always so special because I know the time,
• 28:27
  Lisa Nichols: the time and the thought and the energy that has gone into that really
• 28:32
  Lisa Nichols: just an expression, I feel like, of her love.
• 28:36
  Lisa Nichols: You know?
• 28:36
  Lisa Nichols: And, yeah, I treasure those things.
• 28:39
  Lisa Nichols: Well, you know what?
• 28:40
  Lisa Nichols: I've got a lot more questions for you, girl.
• 28:42
  Lisa Nichols: But we have to take a quick break, and we'll be right back with
• 28:46
  Lisa Nichols: Leah Spyros on the Something Extra podcast.
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  Lisa Nichols: Welcome back, everyone, to the Something Extra podcast with my
• 29:23
  Lisa Nichols: sweet friend, Leah Spyros.
• 29:26
  Lisa Nichols: Leah, we've already talked about how these you know, the
• 29:30
  Lisa Nichols: that interaction with a human can really speak to our soul and heal
• 29:34
  Lisa Nichols: our soul and refresh our souls.
• 29:36
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 29:37
  Lisa Nichols: I just I could not agree more with you on that.
• 29:40
  Lisa Nichols: But how have you noticed a shift in how people are thinking
• 29:44
  Lisa Nichols: about art in the post pandemic?
• 29:47
  Lisa Nichols: Do you think that art has even become more important
• 29:51
  Lisa Nichols: to people?
• 29:52
  Lisa Nichols: I think so.
• 29:53
  Leah Spiros: I think so.
• 29:55
  Leah Spiros: I feel like it's one of those things where it's like you don't miss
• 29:57
  Leah Spiros: something till it's gone, until you don't have the access to it.
• 30:00
  Leah Spiros: Right?
• 30:01
  Leah Spiros: Like, I mean, there were so many things that we were so
• 30:05
  Leah Spiros: used to that we didn't really think about it.
• 30:07
  Leah Spiros: We maybe unintentionally took for granted because we're just going through our days,
• 30:11
  Leah Spiros: and when we didn't have the option of accessing it,
• 30:15
  Leah Spiros: you know, I think that's why so many people took to screens and more
• 30:19
  Leah Spiros: social media and broader points and and posting pretty things and,
• 30:24
  Leah Spiros: and looking for inspiration because they wanted that connectivity,
• 30:28
  Leah Spiros: because that's something that beauty
• 30:31
  Leah Spiros: provides that
• 30:33
  Leah Spiros: is just not easily easy to to access.
• 30:38
  Leah Spiros: And I know, like, there were several several lettering artists and calligraphers
• 30:42
  Leah Spiros: that took to the streets, and I ended up being one of them.
• 30:45
  Leah Spiros: And we would write out something encouraging on the street
• 30:49
  Leah Spiros: or on our windows so that when people were out walking, which was, like,
• 30:52
  Leah Spiros: the only thing we could do, they would see something.
• 30:55
  Leah Spiros: And so I would, like, scratch out a scripture that said something about,
• 30:59
  Leah Spiros: like, you know, do not lose hope or or something that would uplift
• 31:04
  Leah Spiros: and make it colorful and with a hopscotch behind it so that kids, you
• 31:08
  Leah Spiros: know, could engage with it.
• 31:09
  Leah Spiros: And I think all those things brought hope.
• 31:12
  Leah Spiros: When I just look at the comment section, people were really thankful for
• 31:16
  Leah Spiros: just just a word of hope.
• 31:19
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 31:20
  Lisa Nichols: Oh, that's so good.
• 31:21
  Lisa Nichols: I remember a podcast guest,
• 31:24
  Lisa Nichols: Leah.
• 31:25
  Lisa Nichols: In fact, it was, James Barnett from Dayspring.
• 31:28
  Leah Spiros: Okay.
• 31:29
  Lisa Nichols: And I remember
• 31:31
  Lisa Nichols: what he said that their team did because, obviously, they create beautiful
• 31:35
  Lisa Nichols: cards and, you know, gifts gifts, things like that.
• 31:39
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 31:40
  Lisa Nichols: And he said during the pandemic,
• 31:43
  Lisa Nichols: their their artists would take to go and the sidewalks
• 31:48
  Lisa Nichols: to hospitals.
• 31:50
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 31:50
  Lisa Nichols: That they would beautiful artwork on the sidewalks
• 31:54
  Lisa Nichols: to hospitals to not only encourage the patients, but encourage the health care workers
• 31:58
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 31:59
  Lisa Nichols: In this time and so that they know that they're being seen and they're
• 32:02
  Lisa Nichols: being appreciated.
• 32:04
  Leah Spiros: Yeah.
• 32:04
  Lisa Nichols: And I've never forgotten that.
• 32:05
  Lisa Nichols: I thought that was really beautiful.
• 32:07
  Leah Spiros: Yeah.
• 32:07
  Leah Spiros: I think I think that's where even the mirroring businesses started to take off
• 32:11
  Leah Spiros: more too because they started doing them on garages and
• 32:17
  Leah Spiros: and windows and storefronts and all these different things.
• 32:20
  Leah Spiros: Like, wherever a message of hope could be left, people were trying to do
• 32:23
  Leah Spiros: that.
• 32:23
  Leah Spiros: You know?
• 32:25
  Lisa Nichols: Agreed.
• 32:26
  Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you this.
• 32:27
  Lisa Nichols: So there's always something new to learn.
• 32:29
  Lisa Nichols: I know you know how to engrave.
• 32:31
  Lisa Nichols: You're a calligrapher.
• 32:33
  Lisa Nichols: Are is there anything new that you're experimenting with right now
• 32:37
  Lisa Nichols: in your art?
• 32:41
  Leah Spiros: You know, I don't know about a new technique just
• 32:45
  Leah Spiros: now.
• 32:45
  Leah Spiros: I'm trying to really strengthen the current ones, but I keep getting challenged
• 32:50
  Leah Spiros: with new pieces to work on.
• 32:53
  Leah Spiros: I keep getting some of, can you do this?
• 32:56
  Leah Spiros: And it's like, you know what?
• 32:57
  Leah Spiros: I'm going to find that out.
• 32:58
  Leah Spiros: So, I just did a globe,
• 33:02
  Leah Spiros: and,
• 33:04
  Leah Spiros: yeah.
• 33:05
  Lisa Nichols: That's cool.
• 33:06
  Leah Spiros: Yes.
• 33:06
  Leah Spiros: That was really cool.
• 33:08
  Leah Spiros: I was sharing with you and Jenny earlier, I just did mint julep
• 33:12
  Leah Spiros: cups for Kentucky Derby seventieth birthday party.
• 33:16
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 33:18
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 33:18
  Lisa Nichols: Eighty of those, I think.
• 33:19
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 33:20
  Leah Spiros: Yes, ma'am.
• 33:21
  Leah Spiros: Yes.
• 33:21
  Leah Spiros: It was.
• 33:22
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 33:23
  Leah Spiros: So things like that.
• 33:26
  Leah Spiros: Looking at fabric and what I can do with that.
• 33:30
  Leah Spiros: So Okay.
• 33:31
  Lisa Nichols: Stay tuned.
• 33:32
  Lisa Nichols: Always growing.
• 33:34
  Lisa Nichols: Always growing.
• 33:35
  Lisa Nichols: Always evolving.
• 33:36
  Lisa Nichols: Well, let's, let's pivot over to just make more business questions.
• 33:40
  Lisa Nichols: Being a business owner, you know, what has surprised you the most
• 33:44
  Lisa Nichols: about being in business for yourself, Leah?
• 33:50
  Leah Spiros: There's a line from the Dowager Countess in Downton Abbey where she's talking about
• 33:55
  Leah Spiros: parenting, and she says, it's the on and onness of it.
• 34:00
  Leah Spiros: It it just you know, there's so many people that will say to me,
• 34:04
  Leah Spiros: like, oh, you're always busy.
• 34:05
  Leah Spiros: Like, are you busy right now?
• 34:06
  Leah Spiros: Is business busy?
• 34:07
  Leah Spiros: And, my answer is, like, yes.
• 34:09
  Leah Spiros: It's always busy.
• 34:10
  Leah Spiros: It doesn't matter if stuff is coming in of order or coming in or
• 34:14
  Leah Spiros: not because if it's not, then I've gotta be marketing.
• 34:17
  Leah Spiros: If I'm not marketing, I gotta I have to account.
• 34:20
  Leah Spiros: If I'm not accounting, I like, there's never not something to do.
• 34:24
  Lisa Nichols: It Right.
• 34:25
  Leah Spiros: Creating the space to not do something.
• 34:28
  Leah Spiros: That's the challenge.
• 34:29
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 34:31
  Lisa Nichols: So I agree.
• 34:32
  Lisa Nichols: I can attest to that, girl.
• 34:34
  Lisa Nichols: I we've been in business for thirty one years.
• 34:36
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 34:37
  Lisa Nichols: And I can tell you I can tell you there's never
• 34:41
  Lisa Nichols: been one day where I've been bored.
• 34:44
  Lisa Nichols: I said, I don't have enough to do today.
• 34:46
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 34:46
  Lisa Nichols: It's there's always something to do.
• 34:49
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 34:50
  Lisa Nichols: You're growing.
• 34:51
  Leah Spiros: And I think there's kind of a mindset shift with that.
• 34:55
  Leah Spiros: There were times earlier on where it would just feel like, well, I'm not
• 34:59
  Leah Spiros: getting any orders.
• 34:59
  Leah Spiros: I don't know what to do.
• 35:01
  Leah Spiros: And I remember even, like, saying that to like, why aren't you bringing me
• 35:05
  Leah Spiros: stuff?
• 35:05
  Leah Spiros: Why what's happening?
• 35:06
  Leah Spiros: And he was like, what are you doing with what you have?
• 35:09
  Leah Spiros: He's like, you have an email account?
• 35:11
  Leah Spiros: Have you reached out to everyone that you know?
• 35:13
  Leah Spiros: You have a phone?
• 35:14
  Leah Spiros: Have you called everyone that you know?
• 35:15
  Leah Spiros: You have feet.
• 35:16
  Leah Spiros: Have you visited everyone?
• 35:18
  Leah Spiros: Well, no.
• 35:19
  Leah Spiros: Okay then.
• 35:20
  Leah Spiros: You're not bored.
• 35:22
  Lisa Nichols: Then you're not bored.
• 35:24
  Lisa Nichols: So true.
• 35:25
  Lisa Nichols: So true.
• 35:27
  Lisa Nichols: Well, has there been a lesson that you've heard, you know, that you've actually
• 35:30
  Lisa Nichols: learned the hard way?
• 35:31
  Lisa Nichols: Is there been anything that, you know, has come up that you're like, oh,
• 35:35
  Lisa Nichols: you know, didn't know that and learned it the hard way?
• 35:39
  Leah Spiros: Yes.
• 35:39
  Leah Spiros: I'm sure there is.
• 35:40
  Leah Spiros: I'd I'd have to ponder on that a bit.
• 35:46
  Leah Spiros: I think
• 35:47
  Leah Spiros: I will say as as a creative, as an artist, as a very
• 35:52
  Leah Spiros: strongly right brain dominant person,
• 35:56
  Leah Spiros: cells and compartments are not my strength.
• 36:00
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 36:01
  Leah Spiros: Or my desire or my pleasure area.
• 36:04
  Leah Spiros: Yeah.
• 36:04
  Leah Spiros: They're just not a joy for me.
• 36:06
  Leah Spiros: But,
• 36:09
  Leah Spiros: I have found myself maybe having to pull an all nighter or
• 36:13
  Leah Spiros: scramble to do something because of something that I should have compartmentalized
• 36:18
  Leah Spiros: sooner.
• 36:19
  Leah Spiros: And, you know, in my corporate job before this,
• 36:24
  Leah Spiros: I was really responsible for navigating a lot of those sheets, and I didn't
• 36:28
  Leah Spiros: love it.
• 36:28
  Leah Spiros: But man, did it help me keep my project tracking straight.
• 36:31
  Leah Spiros: And so getting into this and being like, can't throw the baby out with
• 36:35
  Leah Spiros: the bathwater.
• 36:36
  Leah Spiros: You need some of those tenants that were so valuable there.
• 36:39
  Leah Spiros: That's gonna be what keeps you afloat and, and embracing embracing
• 36:44
  Leah Spiros: the,
• 36:45
  Leah Spiros: I don't prefer into it's going to be profitable.
• 36:49
  Leah Spiros: Do it.
• 36:51
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 36:52
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 36:52
  Lisa Nichols: And, you know, I think that's such wise
• 36:57
  Lisa Nichols: sage advice there, Leah, because when you're in your own business, I
• 37:01
  Lisa Nichols: mean, until you get to the point where you can hire help for these
• 37:05
  Lisa Nichols: other things
• 37:05
  Leah Spiros: Yeah.
• 37:06
  Lisa Nichols: You're gonna wear every hat for a while.
• 37:08
  Leah Spiros: Right.
• 37:09
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 37:09
  Lisa Nichols: You're gonna be the shipping department.
• 37:11
  Lisa Nichols: You're going to be the creative.
• 37:13
  Lisa Nichols: You're going to be the accounting.
• 37:14
  Lisa Nichols: You're going to be the marketing and sales.
• 37:16
  Lisa Nichols: All of those in there.
• 37:17
  Lisa Nichols: Just realize that there are going to be things that you don't
• 37:21
  Lisa Nichols: particularly enjoy doing, but you must do if you're going to
• 37:25
  Lisa Nichols: have a viable business.
• 37:27
  Leah Spiros: Right.
• 37:27
  Leah Spiros: Right.
• 37:28
  Leah Spiros: And to that point, if you have that person, which is a blessing,
• 37:32
  Leah Spiros: you also need to know what you want of them.
• 37:35
  Leah Spiros: You need to be able to articulate that.
• 37:37
  Leah Spiros: And I think some of the best bosses, the best leaders are the ones
• 37:41
  Leah Spiros: who have been there and can speak to it.
• 37:43
  Leah Spiros: Not because they are up here looking down, but because they've already been in
• 37:46
  Leah Spiros: the trenches and can articulate.
• 37:48
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 37:49
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 37:49
  Lisa Nichols: Great point.
• 37:50
  Lisa Nichols: Great point.
• 37:51
  Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you this.
• 37:52
  Lisa Nichols: What would what advice would you give to someone who is wanting to
• 37:56
  Lisa Nichols: or thinking about starting a creative business like yours?
• 38:02
  Lisa Nichols: Or any business, really.
• 38:03
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, stepping out of that corporate role.
• 38:07
  Leah Spiros: I would say use your words.
• 38:09
  Leah Spiros: And by that, I mean, you know, if you are a person of faith,
• 38:13
  Leah Spiros: if you, you know, believe in the Lord, take it to him first, check-in
• 38:17
  Leah Spiros: with him, see what that plan is, and then get your people around you.
• 38:21
  Leah Spiros: Have others speak into it.
• 38:23
  Leah Spiros: Find out who, who supports you, who has team you,
• 38:28
  Leah Spiros: and is able to give and you be able to receive both the
• 38:32
  Leah Spiros: positive, uplifting, rah rah rah feedback and the, mhmm, I'm
• 38:36
  Leah Spiros: not sure about that, or I don't think that's going to work so great
• 38:39
  Leah Spiros: because you need all of it.
• 38:41
  Leah Spiros: Proverbs says that there is a benefit in many counselors.
• 38:44
  Leah Spiros: And so having your set village or consortium
• 38:49
  Leah Spiros: or whatever you call it to help give that insight
• 38:53
  Leah Spiros: and feedback,
• 38:55
  Leah Spiros: is very, very valuable.
• 38:57
  Leah Spiros: Very Mhmm.
• 38:58
  Leah Spiros: Have those partners.
• 38:59
  Lisa Nichols: I'm so glad.
• 39:00
  Lisa Nichols: I am so glad that you mentioned that, Leah, because,
• 39:04
  Lisa Nichols: you know, our tendency sometimes as human beings
• 39:09
  Lisa Nichols: is not to enjoy the feedback that's not rah rah rah.
• 39:13
  Leah Spiros: Right.
• 39:14
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 39:15
  Leah Spiros: Yeah.
• 39:15
  Lisa Nichols: But it is critical
• 39:19
  Lisa Nichols: to have that humility and to have that posture of saying no,
• 39:23
  Lisa Nichols: this person.
• 39:24
  Lisa Nichols: Now you have to you have to make sure that the people I always
• 39:27
  Lisa Nichols: say there is wisdom in many advisers.
• 39:29
  Lisa Nichols: Just make sure that you've got the right advisers Yes.
• 39:32
  Lisa Nichols: Around you.
• 39:32
  Lisa Nichols: But people that, like you said, that are that are people that are for
• 39:36
  Lisa Nichols: you Mhmm.
• 39:37
  Lisa Nichols: That you know that are for you, that want to have your best interest.
• 39:41
  Lisa Nichols: You've got to be willing to take the good, bad, and the ugly because
• 39:44
  Lisa Nichols: how else are you gonna improve?
• 39:46
  Lisa Nichols: And we're all we I say we all have blind spots.
• 39:48
  Leah Spiros: Right.
• 39:49
  Lisa Nichols: There's all things that we don't see ourselves.
• 39:51
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 39:52
  Lisa Nichols: But somebody else looking from the outside in could say, you know, maybe
• 39:56
  Lisa Nichols: your whatever the case may be, you do need to spend a little bit
• 40:00
  Lisa Nichols: more time on sales.
• 40:01
  Leah Spiros: Right.
• 40:03
  Leah Spiros: Yes.
• 40:03
  Lisa Nichols: Or something like that.
• 40:05
  Lisa Nichols: You know, just having that really honest feedback is important.
• 40:09
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 40:09
  Lisa Nichols: Okay.
• 40:10
  Lisa Nichols: You're a wife to Jason.
• 40:12
  Lisa Nichols: You're a mom.
• 40:13
  Lisa Nichols: You're an active board member.
• 40:15
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, you are a community leader.
• 40:18
  Lisa Nichols: How do you balance it all,
• 40:20
  Lisa Nichols: Leah?
• 40:22
  Leah Spiros: Practicing the power of the pause.
• 40:26
  Leah Spiros: Practicing the power of the pause and embracing the no, which is
• 40:31
  Leah Spiros: hard.
• 40:32
  Leah Spiros: Yeah.
• 40:33
  Leah Spiros: I would like to say yes to everyone because I want everyone to be
• 40:35
  Leah Spiros: happy.
• 40:38
  Leah Spiros: But it is better I believe that it is better to do three things
• 40:42
  Leah Spiros: at a hundred percent than a hundred things at three percent.
• 40:45
  Leah Spiros: And so if I find that that I am taking on too much or
• 40:49
  Leah Spiros: doing more than will allow me to be actively
• 40:54
  Leah Spiros: beneficial
• 40:55
  Leah Spiros: to the mission, then I need to make the heart know
• 41:00
  Leah Spiros: or press the pause of I can help, but not with this specific thing
• 41:04
  Leah Spiros: or not within this season.
• 41:05
  Leah Spiros: Let me check back with you here.
• 41:08
  Leah Spiros: My heart is for helping and serving and loving, and I want
• 41:12
  Leah Spiros: to say yes to every opportunity for that.
• 41:15
  Leah Spiros: But I also need to be humble enough to not take that blessing from
• 41:19
  Leah Spiros: someone else.
• 41:20
  Leah Spiros: I'm not the answer to all the questions.
• 41:22
  Leah Spiros: And it might be that I'm supposed to be aware of who can be
• 41:25
  Leah Spiros: that and be the caveat or the conduit between
• 41:30
  Leah Spiros: the two parties.
• 41:32
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 41:33
  Lisa Nichols: That's so good.
• 41:34
  Lisa Nichols: And I think that is truly like knowing yourself
• 41:38
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 41:38
  Lisa Nichols: Knowing what your principles are, your boundaries.
• 41:42
  Lisa Nichols: You know, I experienced this recently with you.
• 41:44
  Lisa Nichols: I said, I give you the little nameplates, and then I give you another
• 41:47
  Lisa Nichols: one.
• 41:48
  Lisa Nichols: And you're like, Lisa, I can do these, but not this.
• 41:51
  Lisa Nichols: I'm like, no problem.
• 41:52
  Lisa Nichols: We'll do that one later.
• 41:53
  Lisa Nichols: But, you know, I appreciated that about you, though, Leah, because you knew
• 41:57
  Lisa Nichols: what else you had on the docket.
• 41:59
  Leah Spiros: Yes.
• 42:00
  Lisa Nichols: And I think it's really important to to and I
• 42:04
  Lisa Nichols: always say when you say yes to something, when you say yes to something,
• 42:08
  Lisa Nichols: you're saying no to something else.
• 42:10
  Leah Spiros: Yes.
• 42:11
  Leah Spiros: Yeah.
• 42:11
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, it's not yes.
• 42:13
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 42:13
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 42:13
  Leah Spiros: Right.
• 42:14
  Lisa Nichols: It's gonna be yes and no.
• 42:15
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 42:16
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 42:16
  Lisa Nichols: So, very, I want you to talk about this because I love this about
• 42:21
  Lisa Nichols: you.
• 42:21
  Lisa Nichols: I love this discipline that you have.
• 42:23
  Lisa Nichols: Okay.
• 42:24
  Lisa Nichols: We do time blocking.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 42:27
  Lisa Nichols: When we talk about managing, I always say we manage our time.
• 42:31
  Lisa Nichols: We have, what, a hundred and sixty eight hours in the week Mhmm.
• 42:35
  Lisa Nichols: Whatever it is.
• 42:37
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 42:37
  Lisa Nichols: I think that's right, isn't it?
• 42:38
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 42:38
  Lisa Nichols: Hundred and sixty eight hours in the week.
• 42:41
  Lisa Nichols: You also were managing our time, but, also, we're managing our energy.
• 42:44
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 42:45
  Lisa Nichols: So, you know, you do time blocking.
• 42:47
  Lisa Nichols: Can you tell our listeners about that?
• 42:49
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 42:49
  Lisa Nichols: Because I love it.
• 42:50
  Leah Spiros: Yeah.
• 42:51
  Leah Spiros: And I you know, full transparency, I really just started that this year, so
• 42:55
  Leah Spiros: I've been at it for a few months.
• 42:56
  Leah Spiros: But it it was born of of having too many,
• 43:01
  Leah Spiros: oh, oh, dear moments of I almost dropped that.
• 43:04
  Leah Spiros: I almost broke that.
• 43:05
  Leah Spiros: You know, moments in my business of I barely made that deadline
• 43:09
  Leah Spiros: because I did too many things this day, and now I need to get
• 43:13
  Leah Spiros: back to this.
• 43:14
  Leah Spiros: And, you know, all the things are good, but the timing for everything needed
• 43:18
  Leah Spiros: to be divvied up better.
• 43:22
  Leah Spiros: And so I
• 43:24
  Leah Spiros: I had a workshop and was working on learning what strategic
• 43:28
  Leah Spiros: planning is for your business.
• 43:31
  Leah Spiros: And I started hearing about time blocking, and I said, well,
• 43:35
  Leah Spiros: let me think about what it would look like for me to designate
• 43:39
  Leah Spiros: days.
• 43:40
  Leah Spiros: And so what I have now is I have studio workdays.
• 43:43
  Leah Spiros: I have allotted three of those for me per week, and then I have
• 43:47
  Leah Spiros: two days that I allot for meetings and comp you know,
• 43:51
  Leah Spiros: collabs and those kinds of things.
• 43:53
  Leah Spiros: And so they're not hard and fast if there's a an exception
• 43:57
  Leah Spiros: of something urgent that I need to connect on and it falls on one
• 44:00
  Leah Spiros: of the other days.
• 44:01
  Leah Spiros: There's grace for that.
• 44:03
  Leah Spiros: But it has given me designated time for production.
• 44:09
  Leah Spiros: I might be a small business owner, but I'm also the implementer
• 44:13
  Leah Spiros: of everything that I'm gaining the business for.
• 44:15
  Leah Spiros: And so I haven't had time to not just take the orders, but to
• 44:18
  Leah Spiros: actually make and create those orders.
• 44:21
  Leah Spiros: And I was finding that I would be coming from a a chamber meeting
• 44:25
  Leah Spiros: and then running over to this thing.
• 44:26
  Leah Spiros: And then, oh, no.
• 44:27
  Leah Spiros: I've got this in the evening, and I've got an hour to work on
• 44:30
  Leah Spiros: this project.
• 44:31
  Leah Spiros: So I'm going to need to take all this time tomorrow to try to
• 44:34
  Leah Spiros: catch up.
• 44:35
  Leah Spiros: I felt like I was behind the ball every single day, and then
• 44:39
  Leah Spiros: it's no way to live.
• 44:41
  Leah Spiros: And it just bring there was no peace from that.
• 44:44
  Leah Spiros: It was just always feeling like a struggle and a scramble.
• 44:47
  Leah Spiros: Yes.
• 44:48
  Leah Spiros: And so time blocking allowed me to to quantify
• 44:52
  Leah Spiros: and compartmentalize in a way that has been beneficial.
• 44:55
  Leah Spiros: It's helped me balance out my home life because that doesn't stop.
• 45:00
  Leah Spiros: My church life, my my board life, which I'm on the Rooted board,
• 45:04
  Leah Spiros: but I also am on the board of One Heart Family Ministries.
• 45:07
  Leah Spiros: And so these are things that all require time, but
• 45:11
  Leah Spiros: this has created space.
• 45:12
  Leah Spiros: Blocking has actually made space.
• 45:15
  Leah Spiros: Sounds kind of intuitive, but
• 45:18
  Lisa Nichols: No.
• 45:18
  Lisa Nichols: I love it.
• 45:19
  Lisa Nichols: And there is such a,
• 45:22
  Lisa Nichols: a term out there, if you will, kind of a mindset called
• 45:26
  Lisa Nichols: flow.
• 45:27
  Leah Spiros: Mhmm.
• 45:28
  Lisa Nichols: It's like when you get in that creative flow Yes.
• 45:32
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, to be in that flow for a longer period of
• 45:36
  Lisa Nichols: time, Leah, is probably just you can't even put a price on that
• 45:40
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 45:40
  Lisa Nichols: Rather than saying, okay.
• 45:41
  Lisa Nichols: I've got one hour.
• 45:42
  Lisa Nichols: Okay.
• 45:43
  Lisa Nichols: Let me get in the creative flow.
• 45:44
  Leah Spiros: Right.
• 45:45
  Lisa Nichols: Send me go do something else or go send out emails or respond or
• 45:49
  Lisa Nichols: whatnot.
• 45:50
  Lisa Nichols: So I just I love it so much that you're doing it.
• 45:54
  Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you a question, then we'll talk about something extra.
• 45:57
  Lisa Nichols: When people receive one of your pieces Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: What is it that you hope they feel?
• 46:05
  Leah Spiros: Delight.
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  Leah Spiros: Delight because I think that incorporates the surprise aspect
• 46:12
  Leah Spiros: and the joy, both of it.
• 46:14
  Leah Spiros: I love when they don't know about it.
• 46:17
  Leah Spiros: I love when a client reaches out to me and says, hey.
• 46:19
  Leah Spiros: We're doing this, and this is what's happening, and then we're gonna present
• 46:23
  Leah Spiros: it on this date.
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  Leah Spiros: And I will not post about it.
• 46:26
  Leah Spiros: I will not show anything that indicates.
• 46:27
  Leah Spiros: I won't tag them.
• 46:29
  Leah Spiros: Nothing to spoil that surprise because I I support what
• 46:33
  Leah Spiros: they're trying to bring out from the recipient.
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  Leah Spiros: So
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  Lisa Nichols: I love it.
• 46:38
  Leah Spiros: Yeah.
• 46:38
  Leah Spiros: Delight is really, really it.
• 46:42
  Lisa Nichols: That's I love that.
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  Lisa Nichols: That our core values follow the acrostic delight because we
• 46:48
  Lisa Nichols: say we want delighted clients.
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  Lisa Nichols: So every letter of delight is one of our core values.
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  Lisa Nichols: Love that.
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  Lisa Nichols: That's cool.
• 46:57
  Lisa Nichols: That's cool.
• 46:58
  Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you this.
• 46:59
  Lisa Nichols: This is called something extra.
• 47:01
  Lisa Nichols: Leah, what do you believe is a something extra that every leader
• 47:05
  Lisa Nichols: needs?
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  Leah Spiros: I believe that every leader needs connected creativity.
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  Leah Spiros: And I phrase it like that because I I believe every single one of
• 47:16
  Leah Spiros: us is created with creativity.
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  Leah Spiros: I think that because we we expect that to be expressed in art,
• 47:24
  Leah Spiros: if we are not artistic, we don't consider ourselves creative, and it's
• 47:28
  Leah Spiros: simply not true.
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  Leah Spiros: We have it.
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  Leah Spiros: And so to me, connected creativity is awareness, knowing
• 47:34
  Leah Spiros: that you have creativity,
• 47:36
  Leah Spiros: then tapping into the source of that.
• 47:39
  Leah Spiros: Maybe it's implemented in spreadsheets for you.
• 47:41
  Leah Spiros: It's how you create them.
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  Leah Spiros: You know?
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  Leah Spiros: Maybe it's an art piece.
• 47:45
  Leah Spiros: And then implementation, actually doing the output, actually taking
• 47:50
  Leah Spiros: it from concept to creation.
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  Leah Spiros: I think every single one of us has the potential to do that, and
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  Leah Spiros: we need to tap into it and use it because it will benefit our
• 47:58
  Leah Spiros: business and keep them from going flat.
• 48:01
  Lisa Nichols: Oh, I love it so much.
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  Lisa Nichols: I love that so much because when I think about it, like,
• 48:07
  Lisa Nichols: even being in business, when you are I say you we're problem solvers.
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  Leah Spiros: Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 48:12
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I believe we need creativity when we're solving problems.
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  Lisa Nichols: I believe that we need creativity when we're figuring out how
• 48:21
  Lisa Nichols: to maybe love someone better
• 48:23
  Leah Spiros: Yes.
• 48:24
  Lisa Nichols: In our life.
• 48:25
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: With relational kind of intelligence.
• 48:28
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 48:28
  Lisa Nichols: That is that's really good.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I I hear people sometimes say, well, I'm just not a
• 48:34
  Lisa Nichols: very creative person.
• 48:35
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
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  Lisa Nichols: Don't you hear that sometimes?
• 48:38
  Leah Spiros: So much.
• 48:38
  Leah Spiros: So much.
• 48:40
  Leah Spiros: Yep.
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  Leah Spiros: And I think that sometimes comparison has worked its way into.
• 48:44
  Leah Spiros: They're saying it because I define you as creative, and I'm not like you.
• 48:49
  Leah Spiros: But god gave you your own pocket of creativity.
• 48:52
  Leah Spiros: He gave you your own sense, and that's why I say connected creativity because
• 48:56
  Leah Spiros: that's having all of that work together, having that awareness and using it.
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  Lisa Nichols: I love it.
• 49:01
  Lisa Nichols: I love it.
• 49:02
  Lisa Nichols: Well, Leah, this has been so much fun.
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  Lisa Nichols: Thank you so much for being on the show today.
• 49:08
  Lisa Nichols: I've absolutely loved every minute of my time with you today.
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  Lisa Nichols: So thank you.
• 49:12
  Leah Spiros: I appreciate you having me.
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  Leah Spiros: This has been my delight today.
• 49:15
  Leah Spiros: Thank you, Lisa.
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