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Best of-Labor Day · Karl and Crew

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  S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
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  S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced God, overcome
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  S1: what seems impossible and live as you never imagined delivering
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  S1: the truth daily.
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  S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available
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  S2: and you're forfeiting your soul. There's no amount of gain
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  S2: that would make it worth it.
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  S3: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
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  S3: the life source, which is God.
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  S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
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  S4: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
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  S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
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  S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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  S1: and crew.
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  S5: I got some great news. What's that? Super nice son.
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  S5: Love sardines now. Thank you. Yeah.
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  S2: Okay. So, is Carl to blame for this?
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  S4: I'm just blaming him anyways because.
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  S6: I love the fact that he loves sardines. You know?
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  S6: It's good for his complexion and everything.
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  S4: He's just got. I mean.
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  S3: How did he find out about these?
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  S4: Kid loves food. He was working a job, like overnight
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  S4: kind of snacks, got hooked on these canned sardines because
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  S4: they were easy to grab off the shelf and kind
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  S4: of pop open. So some crackers, some olive oil, sardines.
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  S4: And so now I'm buying them on my grocery list.
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  S4: I'm like, the fact that you.
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  S6: Have to buy sardines is. So it just proves to
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  S6: me that there is a God.
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  S2: And I'm so sorry.
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  S3: I mean, Diana, all I have to say is you.
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  S3: I do feel bad, but you can just not buy them.
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  S4: No, I have to buy them. You can't deprive him
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  S4: if he likes.
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  S3: You.
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  S4: Can.
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  S3: I was deprived of many things that I liked when
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  S3: I was a kid.
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  S6: Yeah, too bad they didn't jerk that.
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  S4: That though. Than some.
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  S6: Video console from.
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  S4: You. Yeah.
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  S2: So do you remember when Carl used to try to
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  S2: sneak sardines into the studio.
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  S6: That ended quickly.
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  S2: I mean, and the idea that you could subtly and
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  S2: discreetly eat sardines, well, it just doesn't.
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  S6: It's not. I'm going to give the details. So here's
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  S6: the deal. I would eat them in another room, in
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  S6: the kitchen. I would rinse out not only the can
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  S6: to try to get the putridness, or so they say.
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  S6: I think it's lovely stink out of the can. But
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  S6: then I would swallow all the sardines, the whole can
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  S6: of sardines with olive oil, and then I would wash out,
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  S6: rinse my mouth with water, and I came in and.
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  S2: Inevitably.
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  S6: We're on mic and then we get off mic. She goes,
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  S6: did you eat sardines? And I'm like many feet away
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  S6: from her and she's got this sniffer that is just lethal, man.
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  S2: And he would have this look like I've been caught.
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  S4: Can you guys smell that? Can you smell that?
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  S3: All I'm saying is you were pretty considerate to the
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  S3: other people here, but I have some stories of one.
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  S3: When I used to answer phone calls here, I was
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  S3: on the phone with a listener and you came and
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  S3: knocked on the window and the door is open. So
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  S3: you're looking right at me and you just opened your
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  S3: mouth full of sardines.
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  S6: Oh, no, that's that's too much information, Jonathan.
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  S3: It's not.
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  S2: Exactly. I'm sure that's what he was thinking.
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  S6: I played hooky with my buddy. I went back to
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  S6: our old Bible camp days.
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  S3: Yeah, you did, while I'm on the phone with somebody
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  S3: and I'm trying not to throw up. And then the
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  S3: other one was you and I had to do a
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  S3: video around Christmas time, and.
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  S6: I ate hard boiled.
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  S3: Eggs and I was. No, these ones were sardines to you.
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  S3: What I do, you were you were. I looked through
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  S3: the window and you're sitting in the other room eating
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  S3: a bunch of sardines, trying to trying to get him
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  S3: quick before we start the video. And then I had
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  S3: to sit and do like a two minute video standing
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  S3: right next to you.
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  S2: Wow.
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  S3: I was like, this is not my day.
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  S6: I didn't open my mouth, I just breathe.
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  S3: Yeah. You just.
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  S4: Breathe. Breathe.
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  S3: All right. That one, you just breathe. But.
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  S6: All right. Speaking of breathing, we need a breather. So
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  S6: let's get a good friend in here. Who do we
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  S6: got coming up?
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  S2: Ali, we have Elizabeth Smith coming up. I think it
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  S2: will be a breath of fresh air.
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  S4: Yes, yes.
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  S6: Okay. That was good.
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  S1: He was running from God, but God's love brought him home.
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  S1: Carl is in the crew. It's Carl and crew on
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  S1: Moody radio. Tune in whenever you like. Check out the
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  S1: Carl and Crew podcast wherever you like to stream.
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  S6: As promised, we've got her with us, Doctor Elizabeth Smith,
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  S6: and I'm going to come out of the chute hot.
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  S6: Do you like sardines, Elizabeth? No. Oh.
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  S2: Good answer.
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  S6: Elizabeth.
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  S7: No, not at all.
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  S6: Okay. Do you like do you like microgreens?
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  S7: I don't even know what those are.
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  S6: Okay.
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  S2: It's okay.
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  S6: All right.
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  S7: It's hard to know what those are.
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  S6: No. They are. No, I do want to.
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  S7: Oh, my word. I've lived 60 years and I don't
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  S7: know what microgreens are.
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  S6: No, it's fine. You can. You can die a happy
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  S6: death and not know what they are. But I will
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  S6: tell you, they are dynamite. They're the little. But they're the.
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  S6: They look like. What do they look like? They look
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  S6: like sprouts. That's what they look like.
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  S2: Look like grass.
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  S6: Yeah. And they are super high in density for nutrients.
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  S6: I mean, they are super, super nutrients and they are
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  S6: so tasty. And you can get radish ones. You can
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  S6: get broccoli ones, you can get baby kale ones. And
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  S6: there are these little micro things and they are so good.
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  S6: So anyway, there's my thing for you today, Elizabeth.
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  S7: Do they come dipped in chocolate?
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  S6: Oh no sister, you get you put a strawberry in
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  S6: some chocolate, man. You and me and my wife and
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  S6: your hubby. We'll sit down and talk with you guys
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  S6: all day long over that stuff. Let me tell you, Elizabeth.
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  S6: Oh my goodness, we're looking at this cool text today.
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  S6: It comes out of Mark chapter ten, verse 15, specifically
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  S6: the verse, but in classic form. And it happened more
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  S6: than once. The disciples are telling, get the kids out
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  S6: of here. Get the kids out of here. And Jesus said,
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  S6: hold it! Time out! Bring them over here. And then
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  S6: he uses this as a great point. He said, whoever
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  S6: does not receive the kingdom of God like a child
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  S6: does not enter it. Now, I did some Greek word
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  S6: study on this, Elizabeth, and you'll be happy to know
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  S6: that there's two words. One is nepos. That means one
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  S6: without words, and the other word is Parthian, which means humble.
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  S6: And this is the word padayani. Isn't this awesome that
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  S6: Jesus says, these kids illustrate what it's like to be
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  S6: a kingdom dweller? Elizabeth.
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  S7: He was revealing the very nature of his kingdom. I mean,
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  S7: children in that culture, they weren't back then in the
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  S7: first century. Your value was often connected with your property
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  S7: rights or your potential as workers. Are you going to
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  S7: be heir to your family's, you know, business? Well, these
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  S7: are just children and they don't really aren't at any
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  S7: point in any of that. What do they really contribute
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  S7: to society? So they were the lowest kind of considered
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  S7: person in the crowd. And yet God is like, wait,
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  S7: the very lowest here, the ones you're all overlooking, the
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  S7: one who is most weak and insignificant. And they're not independent.
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  S7: They're completely dependent. This is the nature of my kingdom,
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  S7: which is about glory of God. And we actually experience
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  S7: the glory of God when we first take that position
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  S7: of humility, not power and strength.
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  S2: Doctor Elizabeth Smith, our guest right now, she's the associate
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  S2: dean of academics for Moody Online and also the program
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  S2: head of the Children and Family Ministry department. So what
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  S2: can we learn about childlike faith from children?
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  S7: Children experience the world around them. Everything is new to them.
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  S7: And as they experience and they come to it honestly
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  S7: and with curiosity and humility, they don't have a lot
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  S7: of sense of self-sufficiency. They don't have pride because they
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  S7: haven't lived long enough to have that. And often they're
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  S7: not basing how they're doing on their performance. God is
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  S7: introducing here an upside down kingdom, and the best way
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  S7: he could do it is with a child. Yeah. These
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  S7: are the things we need to overcome. We need to
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  S7: overcome our pride and our self-sufficiency and our performance. We
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  S7: need to get rid of worldly values and accept the
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  S7: values where Jesus welcomes the insignificant, welcome the kingdom values.
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  S7: So we're not seeking power or prestige, but rather we
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  S7: are looking into relationship first with God and then with
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  S7: one another. The two greatest commandments love the Lord your
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  S7: God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and
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  S7: love others more so than yourself.
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  S6: Yeah, it's right on. You know what's interesting about this?
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  S6: You mentioned it at the top. I want you to
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  S6: expand on it a little bit. Children in the first
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  S6: century were a commodity before Christ came along, and he
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  S6: was a game changer on this. Not only was he
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  S6: the most egalitarian person when it comes to women's rights,
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  S6: but he was massive when it comes to children, because
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  S6: there were kids left for dead on the side of
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  S6: the street, newborns. There were kids that were bought and sold.
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  S6: It was a common thing for him to walk in
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  S6: not only feature kids from their posture of humility, but flip.
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  S6: As you said, the culture in the kingdom upside down,
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  S6: there would have been some people gobsmacked looking at him
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  S6: that day. You know, Elizabeth, 100%.
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  S7: When we start valuing things that the world doesn't value
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  S7: and it makes no sense to them, they can get angry,
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  S7: they can start judging us. Jesus really put himself in
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  S7: his ministry on the line when he decided to love
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  S7: that which the world did not love. When he said,
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  S7: this is significant and the world said, no, it's not.
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  S7: He is absolutely living upside down. But that is what
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  S7: also gets the attention of the world. How do you
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  S7: love something so unlovable? And that is how children were treated.
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  S7: They were bothers their to be pushed to the side
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  S7: exactly what you said. Their They're commodities. They're property. They
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  S7: don't really have any worth. So why are you allowing
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  S7: them to come near you? To value them? He wanted
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  S7: the parents to bring their little children to them. They
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  S7: didn't value complete dependence, and children are. What's amazing is
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  S7: Jesus being the God of the universe in human form, incarnate.
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  S7: These children. There's nothing in the passage that would indicate.
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  S7: And I know we're doing an argument from silence, but
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  S7: they trusted him. Children kind of have a sense of
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  S7: whether this is an adult I can trust or not,
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  S7: and the fact that their trust in being willing to
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  S7: approach Jesus, it didn't seem like he was wrestling them
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  S7: to the ground to bless them. The fact that they
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  S7: received him and they trusted him. And there was a gentleness,
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  S7: those kind of qualities and what that must have looked like.
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  S7: What a profound, deeply moving experience for those watching of
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  S7: who is this man, this, this man who preaches so
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  S7: strongly and heals people and people are following him. And
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  S7: yet look at the gentle kindness that he shares and
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  S7: the reception and the trust that these children have in him.
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  S7: And when we look at that, that is the God
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  S7: we approach, and that is how he responds to us.
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  S7: There's a kindness to God, and I hope that those
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  S7: who are listening to me, God is kind to you.
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  S7: He is a good God. He is a gentle God.
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  S7: Run to him, trust him. Have that childlike faith. Continue
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  S7: with humility. Don't come with pretense. Put that at the door.
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  S7: Lock that out of your relationship with God. Come putting
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  S7: yourself completely dependent on him. You can trust him. Your
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  S7: father will provide. Run to him as the children did
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  S7: and you will find what your soul needs.
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  S2: Doctor Elizabeth Smith, our guest associate dean of academics for
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  S2: Moody Online Program, head of children and Family ministry here
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  S2: at Moody Bible Institute. How does a verse like this
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  S2: shape a children and family ministry department here at Moody? Obviously,
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  S2: I don't know that this is the the the text
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  S2: that you use, but but it might be. It certainly
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  S2: could be.
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  S7: Absolutely. We would include it. And to understand it, I'll
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  S7: do this first. What it doesn't mean is that you
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  S7: look at children who can't learn. So sometimes when they're like, oh,
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  S7: a child like faith means you don't have any thoughts
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  S7: in your head. No, no, no, that's not what it means.
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  S7: We want to teach children the Bible. We want to
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  S7: teach theology. We want to give them a strong understanding
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  S7: of the gospel. However, what we want to nurture in
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  S7: children is that it is about faith in Christ. It
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  S7: is not about being obedient on the outside with an
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  S7: unchanged heart on the inside. We want to be heart changers,
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  S7: not behavior changers. I'm not interested in behavior modification. Heart
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  S7: changers mean I want them to know the true Jesus.
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  S7: Come in humility, repent of your sins. Accept him as
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  S7: your Savior and Lord, and he will save you now
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  S7: and for eternity, right? That is the Jesus we want
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  S7: them to know. And so we study the Bible and
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  S7: we study theology, but they're also a part of the community.
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  S7: They're a part of the church. They're not an audience.
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  S7: So get children to help you. When it comes to
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  S7: greeting at the door, children need to be invested, and
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  S7: they need to be included in the different life activities
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  S7: of the body rather than just put to the side.
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  S7: Don't just babysit them, just don't tolerate them. Allow them
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  S7: to experience in Multi-generations. It's great having older with younger
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  S7: and in between together and intergenerational sense, because that is
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  S7: the body of Christ. Get them embedded knowing God's Word,
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  S7: coming to the true Jesus, and as they walk with
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  S7: him young so that they can know, love and serve
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  S7: him their entire life.
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  S6: Elizabeth, I want to shift gears on you here and,
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  S6: but I want to cap it with this. The takeaway, guys,
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  S6: is the way we approach God is the way in
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  S6: which these kids approach Jesus. They had nothing but a
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  S6: humble heart. Some of them didn't have words. That's the
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  S6: word NetBIOS. One without words. Isn't that a great metaphor? Guys,
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  S6: we don't even. We can just go up, lift up
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  S6: our hands and go. God, you got me! And he says,
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  S6: that's the way I want you to come to me.
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  S6: All right. Experience. Moody is an awesome event. I am
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  S6: a big proponent to taste and see that God is
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  S6: good here at Moody. What do you say about experience, Moody? Elizabeth.
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  S7: Experience. Moody is great. It's an opportunity for students who
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  S7: are looking to come to the Chicago campus to study,
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  S7: to come and really do exactly what the title says
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  S7: experience Moody. And of course, along with that, though, we
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  S7: will also let you know about the amazing offerings that
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  S7: we have on Moody Online. For those who may not
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  S7: be able to come to Chicago but want to get
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  S7: a great education from Moody, we are able to provide
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  S7: for your academic needs either way.
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  S2: And Moody Online is expanding. I know that that's a
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  S2: that's your heart. Associate dean of academics for Moody Online.
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  S2: There's a lot of exciting things happening. Give us just
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  S2: a just a snippet.
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  S7: We are starting a three year Bachelor of Science Business
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  S7: Administration degree. We hope more people will sign up. The
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  S7: government has said the United States can now offer three
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  S7: year bachelor degrees and still get a great education. And
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  S7: so Moody is taking that directive, and we are starting
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  S7: with a three year Bachelor administrative degree. It's a huge
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  S7: deal because it's biblically informed and theologically grounded, but you
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  S7: will learn law and ethics and accounting and all that
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  S7: other stuff that you need. You can tell I work
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  S7: with kids primarily not business. So for those who want
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  S7: a business degree, you will learn everything you need, but
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  S7: you will learn it with a biblical mindset for sure.
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  S5: I love it, I love.
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  S6: It.
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  S5: I love it.
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  S6: Elizabeth, you are a fireball for the Lord. Don't let
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  S6: those goals go out. Okay sister, keep them stoked. And
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  S6: if you want to get to experience Moody, the link
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  S6: will get you to all of them.
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  S2: Just text Moody to 805 557898. Text Moody to 805 557898.
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  S2: You'll also find details there. If you want to find
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  S2: out more about Moody Online, Moody to 805 557898.
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  S1: You're listening to Kerlin Crew on Moody Radio.
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  S6: You notice how Ali just states facts, but sometimes they
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  S6: can be interpreted kind of two different directions.
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  S8: Sorry about that.
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  S6: No. It's fine. Yeah. It's a bless your heart.
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  S4: Bless your heart.
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  S3: You know, some of those some of those sitcoms just like,
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  S3: you know, their normal sitcoms. And then out of nowhere,
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  S3: they had like a musical episode where everyone's just singing. Oh, man,
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  S3: this is that day. This is the musical episode.
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  S6: I cannot you know what's funny about that? I asked
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  S6: my wife what form of entertainment I most don't care for.
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  S6: I was going to use the spies, but that's too heavy.
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  S8: Is it the musical?
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  S6: I don't care for music except for Sound of Music.
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  S6: I can watch Sound of Music.
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  S8: Because that's classic.
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  S4: You don't want Jonathan and I to sing the Jonathan.
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  S8: And you didn't.
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  S6: Know if Jonathan and you did it. I'd be down
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  S6: with that.
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  S4: Grab your jacket.
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  S6: Baby. It's cold outside. Oh, boy. Um, we just covered
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  S6: some ground that we want to make sure we're spiking here.
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  S6: Jesus said, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God
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  S6: like a child shall not enter it. Do you hear that?
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  S8: Yeah.
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  S6: You ain't in. You are not fit for the kingdom
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  S6: of God until you humble yourself like a child. That's
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  S6: pretty powerful words.
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  S2: And it's it's hard because when you think about as
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  S2: an adult, it's almost like being asked to sit back
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  S2: at the kids table. Do you remember the kids table
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  S2: at Thanksgiving or Christmas? And it was like.
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  S8: Yes.
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  S2: It was smaller. It was you. Maybe you didn't get
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  S2: all of the food that everybody else got, but you
• 17:25
  S2: got kind of like the kid version or kid sized portion.
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  S2: It was off to the side. And so there comes
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  S2: a point in time where you're, you get to your,
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  S2: you know, maybe your ten, 12 and you're like, I
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  S2: don't want to be at the kids table. I want
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  S2: to be with the grown ups because that feels like
• 17:39
  S2: where the important stuff's happening, where the cool kids are.
• 17:42
  S6: Yeah, I've got a story about this. So I did
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  S6: a baby dedication for our next door neighbor, and we
• 17:48
  S6: had a adult table after we did the baby dedication.
• 17:51
  S6: Then we had a little the kids, the two brothers
• 17:53
  S6: have little kids table, and I remember distinctly feeling what
• 17:57
  S6: this kid felt. His name was Calvin. He's like, I
• 18:00
  S6: want to sit by Carl. And I'm like, you can
• 18:04
  S6: come up here. And then it dawned on me, I'm
• 18:07
  S6: not the parent. But they smiled, so it was all good.
• 18:10
  S6: So he came and sat beside me. But the funny
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  S6: thing is, to use your metaphor that you're using here,
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  S6: God's saying you're fit for the kingdom of God. When
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  S6: you're seated at the kids.
• 18:20
  S2: Table, you're lower to the ground. I mean, because that's
• 18:23
  S2: a big part of it, right? The kids table was
• 18:25
  S2: usually kind of like a.
• 18:27
  S3: Table off to the side.
• 18:29
  S8: Like the the preschool.
• 18:31
  S2: Chairs, the table height. So you're physically lower you and,
• 18:36
  S2: but that's the perfect picture of what the kingdom of
• 18:38
  S2: God requires. It's not us growing up into, um, our
• 18:43
  S2: place at the table there. It's no, we're, we're coming down,
• 18:47
  S2: humbling ourselves so that we have a place at his table.
• 18:50
  S6: Pretty cool picture, isn't it? Pretty cool picture. Yeah. And
• 18:55
  S6: I'm going to spike it again. Whoever does not receive
• 18:58
  S6: the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it.
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  S6: You know what? I'm going to invite you to come
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  S6: to the table right now. I'm going to invite you
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  S6: to come to the table. You might have gotten up
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  S6: this morning. Feel like the love of God is so far.
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  S6: I'm so far from God. And we hear it here
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  S6: all the time. People that have been in church for
• 19:24
  S6: years never have become a child of God because you
• 19:29
  S6: haven't become like a child. That's an interesting take, isn't it?
• 19:32
  S8: Yes.
• 19:33
  S6: You haven't become a child of God because you haven't
• 19:35
  S6: become like a child. You might say, well, Carl, I
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  S6: don't know. I prayed a prayer. I've accepted Jesus into
• 19:40
  S6: my heart. No no no no. It's the posture of
• 19:44
  S6: the heart that matters more than anything else. And until
• 19:46
  S6: you've humbled yourself under the mighty hand of God, he
• 19:50
  S6: cannot and will not lift you up. It could be
• 19:53
  S6: that you are very religious, but you are not born again.
• 19:56
  S6: And God wants to save you this morning. We hadn't
• 19:59
  S6: even planned on this. But God wants to save your soul.
• 20:02
  S6: You say, what do I have to do? Well, Jesus
• 20:04
  S6: said it. Whoever does not receive the kingdom of God
• 20:07
  S6: like a child shall not enter it. So the flip is,
• 20:11
  S6: the converse is what gets you into the kingdom of heaven.
• 20:14
  S6: You know what this means? It means going low. Being
• 20:19
  S6: humble like the Greek word here, padian. It means humble
• 20:23
  S6: yourself under God today and it recognizes in humility Jesus
• 20:27
  S6: died for my sins. I'm a sinner. Okay? I'm ready
• 20:31
  S6: to embrace that. I'm asking you fully, for the first
• 20:34
  S6: time in your life, really ready to embrace that? Good.
• 20:39
  S6: It also means you're going to follow Jesus like a
• 20:42
  S6: little child that trusted him. If Jesus says, hey, let's
• 20:45
  S6: get up, let's go, they would have gone right.
• 20:47
  S8: Absolutely.
• 20:48
  S2: No questions.
• 20:49
  S8: Asked.
• 20:49
  S6: This is why a good parent has to be cautious
• 20:52
  S6: that some goober doesn't come along and talk their kid
• 20:54
  S6: into going somewhere where that's going to be dangerous. Jesus,
• 20:57
  S6: on the other hand, invited them to go somewhere that
• 21:00
  S6: leads to eternal life. You see, a child doesn't look
• 21:06
  S6: at Jesus and say, yeah, thank you. I'm humble enough
• 21:11
  S6: to admit I need salvation, but I don't want to
• 21:14
  S6: go your way. It says, no, I'm going your way.
• 21:18
  S6: today and you've never repented. Off the broad path, turned
• 21:23
  S6: and followed Jesus and given him all your life like
• 21:26
  S6: a child. But today, God's calling you today. Today is
• 21:30
  S6: the day of salvation. So let me just ask you,
• 21:33
  S6: are you ready to cry out with your voice and say, Jesus,
• 21:36
  S6: forgive me for my sins. Do it right now. Say
• 21:38
  S6: it to him. Are you ready to say today I'm
• 21:44
  S6: following you, Jesus, for the first time in my life,
• 21:48
  S6: I'm following you. First time that I've taken what was
• 21:54
  S6: you to my back and me saying, yeah, I believe
• 21:58
  S6: in him. But you're becoming like a child. And you're saying, no,
• 22:00
  S6: I'm going to follow him. He's my savior. He's my Lord,
• 22:04
  S6: he's my Messiah. I'm giving everything that I am to
• 22:08
  S6: him today. Everything. And if that's you, we want to
• 22:13
  S6: help you Because this is a new day. If you
• 22:17
  S6: I mean, if you meant that in the bottom of
• 22:19
  S6: your heart, there's something else going in your heart. Rivers
• 22:22
  S6: of living water are flooding your soul right now. So, Ali,
• 22:27
  S6: let's help our new friends in Christ Jesus today.
• 22:30
  S2: If that's you, just text the word new NEW to
• 22:33
  S2: 800 555 7898. We've just got a simple little article
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• 22:47
  S1: He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you
• 22:50
  S1: can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's
• 22:55
  S1: curl and crew on Moody Radio.
• 22:57
  S2: Here's my question for the team this morning. What kid
• 23:01
  S2: activity do you wish that you could just continue to
• 23:04
  S2: do as an adult? So we're talking. I'd like to
• 23:08
  S2: just be able to go down the slide regularly. I'd
• 23:10
  S2: like to wake up on Saturday mornings and watch cartoons.
• 23:14
  S2: I like to stick with what would be that kid
• 23:18
  S2: activity that you would like to just continue on into adulthood,
• 23:22
  S2: or maybe you have. What do you say?
• 23:24
  S3: You know what I I'm a little lucky because I,
• 23:27
  S3: I have a daughter. So you get to.
• 23:28
  S2: And so to do it again.
• 23:30
  S3: One thing that we've been doing and it's been awesome
• 23:33
  S3: is going to one of those little inflatable bounce park things.
• 23:37
  S4: Those are cool.
• 23:39
  S9: And that's where dad gets to get the action.
• 23:41
  S3: Absolutely. And it was really funny because on one, there
• 23:44
  S3: was like this obstacle course that was too big for
• 23:47
  S3: her to do. But me and my wife are in
• 23:49
  S3: the in the park with her. And I just took
• 23:52
  S3: off down this thing and started doing it like a
• 23:56
  S3: 29 year old. My wife's like, you're really like putting
• 23:59
  S3: your all into that. And I was like, well, it's fun.
• 24:01
  S3: And so now I have this excuse that I can
• 24:04
  S3: run around the bounce park and not look like a weirdo.
• 24:06
  S2: Okay, I like it. You know what my kid activity
• 24:09
  S2: that I still.
• 24:10
  S9: I want to.
• 24:10
  S2: Know that I still.
• 24:11
  S9: Want to know.
• 24:12
  S2: I will still love to go grab a bowl out
• 24:16
  S2: of the cupboard low. Load it up with cereal.
• 24:21
  S9: Are you a cereal eater?
• 24:23
  S2: And I don't drink dairy milk, but I'll drink like
• 24:25
  S2: oat milk or almond milk. I still love to have, like,
• 24:28
  S2: an overflowing bowl of.
• 24:31
  S9: Touching.
• 24:31
  S2: Of sugary cereal. Okay, not for breakfast, but sometimes it's
• 24:35
  S2: like an evening snack. Yeah. Give me a give me
• 24:38
  S2: some Cinnamon toast Crunch, and I'm happy.
• 24:40
  S9: Oh, that's good, that's precious.
• 24:42
  S2: What about you, Carl?
• 24:43
  S6: Well, I'm. I would love to hang out in a big,
• 24:47
  S6: tall tree fort like the one I built.
• 24:50
  S3: Oh.
• 24:50
  S4: Nice.
• 24:51
  S6: With some friends and sway back and forth in the
• 24:54
  S6: trees and just hang out. Now, I would want to
• 24:56
  S6: bring an espresso machine up there.
• 24:58
  S3: So adult ify it a little bit.
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  S9: Yeah, in the fort we got.
• 25:02
  S6: Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'll take a French press because we actually,
• 25:07
  S6: we actually, I never told you this. We took our
• 25:10
  S6: optimists one burner propane stoves up there into the tree fort. Oh.
• 25:16
  S3: That's not smart.
• 25:17
  S6: Well, we did a lot of things that weren't smart.
• 25:19
  S6: A bit of a fire hazard. Yeah, we would take
• 25:22
  S6: it up there, though, and we'd boil water and make
• 25:24
  S6: soup and make ramen noodles and, oh, have our lunch
• 25:27
  S6: up there. And it was way up there.
• 25:29
  S2: How high up was this for?
• 25:31
  S6: We were way up. We were way up. We were 30,
• 25:34
  S6: 40ft in the air. Oh yeah. We were way up.
• 25:37
  S6: When the wind blew. We'd swing back and forth. Isn't
• 25:40
  S6: that great?
• 25:41
  S3: That's a good time.
• 25:42
  S6: Yeah, it's. It's got me reminiscing right now. It's really sweet.
• 25:46
  S2: Be up in the tree fort.
• 25:47
  S6: We're missing one person.
• 25:49
  S2: Super die.
• 25:50
  S6: Yeah.
• 25:51
  S4: You know, just to run through a sprinkler.
• 25:53
  S3: Yes, yes.
• 25:55
  S4: Have the Kool-Aid sitting out there on the table. The
• 25:58
  S4: old fashioned Kool-Aid where they put in £2 of sugar
• 26:01
  S4: with the little box of Kool-Aid that you made. And
• 26:04
  S4: you would send in the pamphlets, and you got the
• 26:05
  S4: Kool-Aid pitcher and the glasses to match. But you would
• 26:09
  S4: just be with your friends running through the sprinkler. You
• 26:12
  S4: didn't care about anything.
• 26:14
  S3: I don't know, did you guys? So my my neighbors
• 26:16
  S3: had a trampoline. This is what we love to do.
• 26:18
  S3: The sprinkler had a trampoline and we put the sprinkler
• 26:21
  S3: under the trampoline. That's good. And it made for this, like,
• 26:23
  S3: wet trampoline that would bounce a bunch of water.
• 26:26
  S2: A dangerous activity, even more dangerous. Yes, please. That's the
• 26:30
  S2: adult in me.
• 26:31
  S6: Can I tell you something sad? Super die that you'll
• 26:34
  S6: you'll you'll feel bad for your buddy Carl. About every
• 26:37
  S6: time we would hear about the Kool-Aid pitchers and all
• 26:40
  S6: the coupons and. Sure. Yeah, there was always a note
• 26:44
  S6: back in the day. We don't ship to Alaska.
• 26:47
  S2: Oh, no.
• 26:47
  S3: Was there really?
• 26:48
  S2: Oh, yeah.
• 26:49
  S6: Always every. Anything. That was good. Sorry. Alaska. You're out.
• 26:55
  S6: We don't ship there.
• 26:56
  S3: That's a bummer.
• 26:57
  S4: It is a bummer.
• 26:58
  S6: It was. It was funny. So when we came stateside
• 27:02
  S6: or into what we call the lower 48, man, we
• 27:05
  S6: loaded up on that stuff.
• 27:07
  S4: The pitchers, the glasses, everything.
• 27:09
  S2: So no Kool-Aid for you. But you did have a
• 27:12
  S2: tree fort. You had.
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  S4: A really good.
• 27:14
  S2: Tree fort.
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  S6: Yes.
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  S2: Not all was lost.
• 27:19
  S1: He was sharing the gospel on the radio. And then
• 27:22
  S1: he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Carl
• 27:26
  S1: and crew on Moody radio.
• 27:28
  S6: The king is in the room. The King wants everything
• 27:31
  S6: out of your bank account. Young thunder right now. Every penny.
• 27:35
  S3: Okay.
• 27:35
  S6: Ready to cough it up?
• 27:36
  S3: I mean, if he. If he said that, then, yeah,
• 27:38
  S3: I would be. It'd be. Would it be difficult? Would it.
• 27:41
  S6: Be. Yeah. So let's kick that around a little bit.
• 27:43
  S6: So this rich young guy comes up to Jesus and
• 27:45
  S6: he's wanting to know the way to eternal life. And
• 27:47
  S6: Jesus starts grilling him and he says, hey, how are
• 27:50
  S6: you doing on the command? And starts clicking through him
• 27:52
  S6: and the rich young guy, he says, hey, I'm doing
• 27:54
  S6: great on those. I haven't killed anyone lately. I haven't
• 27:59
  S6: taken another man's wife. I'm doing he's doing good, right?
• 28:02
  S6: No killing, no taking another man's wife.
• 28:04
  S2: In his mind, he's checked the major boxes.
• 28:07
  S6: Yeah. And so Jesus then goes for the jugular in
• 28:11
  S6: a weird way. He says, all right, so why don't
• 28:13
  S6: you do this? Why don't you sell everything that you
• 28:16
  S6: have and give it to the poor? And he walked
• 28:20
  S6: away sad. And Jesus was grieved. Was Jesus wanting him
• 28:25
  S6: to drain his bank account? Ali?
• 28:27
  S2: No.
• 28:28
  S6: What was he wanting to do?
• 28:30
  S2: I mean, what he revealed in that question is what
• 28:33
  S2: he valued more.
• 28:35
  S6: Yes.
• 28:36
  S2: And so and, and I think it's it's easy to
• 28:39
  S2: look at that and, and kind of dismiss it as extreme.
• 28:43
  S2: But we can all identify things that we are tempted
• 28:47
  S2: to value more than Jesus. And sometimes it's, they're, they're
• 28:52
  S2: far less than your entire life savings.
• 28:56
  S1: Yeah.
• 28:57
  S6: I think we underestimate how much we say I'm good
• 29:05
  S6: to go with God until he goes probing on our
• 29:09
  S6: substitute gods. Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 29:12
  S3: I think you're right about that. I mean, there are
• 29:15
  S3: there are things that are far more difficult for me
• 29:19
  S3: to give up in my life than money that, you know,
• 29:22
  S3: I'd be like, oh, that one pricks me more than,
• 29:24
  S3: than the dollars in my bank account, you know? And
• 29:26
  S3: it's different for everybody. Everyone's got those things where when
• 29:29
  S3: Jesus starts to probe, it hurts a little bit more
• 29:32
  S3: than somewhere else. And it is only, you know, you
• 29:36
  S3: asked me the question at the beginning, are you ready
• 29:37
  S3: to give up every dollar? I mean, I, I can
• 29:40
  S3: feel like I'm gonna say yes now, but in those moments,
• 29:43
  S3: it is only by the grace of God that I
• 29:45
  S3: can say, okay, Jesus, you first this stuff second, third, fourth, fifth.
• 29:50
  S6: But but why you got to ask the question, why
• 29:53
  S6: would why would this be featured so much? And why
• 29:55
  S6: would Jesus talk so much about money? I mean, I
• 29:58
  S6: hate to say it, but the fact is, boy, we
• 30:00
  S6: can lean on that pretty heavy without knowing it. Fair
• 30:04
  S6: enough guys.
• 30:04
  S2: Oh, yeah.
• 30:05
  S3: Absolutely. Even even if you don't have a lot, you know,
• 30:09
  S3: if you have a lot, sometimes it's like, well, I
• 30:10
  S3: love all this and I want to keep it. Sometimes
• 30:13
  S3: if you have a little, it's it's, well, how am
• 30:15
  S3: I gonna make it without this stuff that I have?
• 30:17
  S3: I have to hold on tight to it. You know,
• 30:19
  S3: it can it can be deadly no matter where you
• 30:20
  S3: are on the, you know, income spectrum.
• 30:23
  S6: Yeah. For sure. Okay. Coming up here, we've got a
• 30:26
  S6: special guest. You've heard his voice before.
• 30:29
  S2: Yes. His name is Brandt Hansen and he joins us
• 30:32
  S2: coming up.
• 30:33
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• 30:41
  S1: step with Jesus. Today you're listening to Carl and crew.
• 30:45
  S6: So talk about one offended, hurt feeling dude, rich, young ruler.
• 30:52
  S6: And you know, we call it's titled Rich young ruler
• 30:54
  S6: in most Bibles. But the fact is he was just
• 30:57
  S6: a rich young guy. He was just an entrepreneur and
• 31:01
  S6: he made a bunch of dough and he was a
• 31:03
  S6: religious guy because he's man, he's checking all the boxes.
• 31:08
  S6: And Jesus was just doing the setup. He was going
• 31:11
  S6: for the jugular on this one in a really holy
• 31:13
  S6: and righteous way. But he's like, how are you doing
• 31:15
  S6: on the commandments? Oh, dynamite on the commandments. Okay, good. Well,
• 31:19
  S6: I'll tell you what. Why don't you sell all you
• 31:21
  S6: have and give to the poor and then you can
• 31:23
  S6: come follow me? And he walked away, sad. Not because
• 31:28
  S6: Jesus wanted him to empty his bank account, but he
• 31:32
  S6: wanted to open his heart. And that's a big difference. Brandt.
• 31:36
  S6: It's a cool story, isn't it? Brandt handson with us
• 31:38
  S6: right now. It's a cool story, isn't it, my man?
• 31:41
  S10: It is. I like that Jesus loves him even as
• 31:44
  S10: he's walking away too. And he allows people to walk away. Like,
• 31:49
  S10: that's a little bit scary in one way for us.
• 31:51
  S10: Like he will, he'll allow you to do it, but
• 31:54
  S10: he still loves us. And the thing about that too.
• 31:56
  S10: He didn't ask everybody to give up everything, you know.
• 32:00
  S10: That wasn't it's not a legalistic thing. But yeah, he
• 32:02
  S10: pinpointed that this guy, that was his thing that he worshipped.
• 32:05
  S10: And it doesn't even mean that money is bad in
• 32:08
  S10: and of itself. But there are things that we worship.
• 32:11
  S10: All of us can be different things. It might even
• 32:13
  S10: be something as good as family.
• 32:15
  S6: Yes.
• 32:16
  S10: But if we worship family ahead of, of, ahead of
• 32:18
  S10: Jesus himself, we're headed for trouble.
• 32:21
  S2: We've got Brant Hanson with us this morning. Author, nationally
• 32:24
  S2: syndicated radio host, advocate for healing children through Cure International.
• 32:28
  S2: You know, when we think about offense, uh, Jesus was
• 32:32
  S2: the message of the gospel was offensive. And he knew it.
• 32:35
  S2: And he let people walk away. As you just said,
• 32:38
  S2: it was like he was not afraid of offending people. Right.
• 32:42
  S10: Right. Not afraid of offending people. But he loved people.
• 32:47
  S10: So he was sad as, uh, as the guy walked away.
• 32:52
  S10: When we talk about the rich young ruler, what I'm
• 32:55
  S10: talking about our offense. Like whether I should take offense
• 32:58
  S10: at things. It's really a matter of me deciding, am
• 33:01
  S10: I going to be continually scandalized at the world? Like,
• 33:04
  S10: look at what was Jesus offended by the world?
• 33:08
  S2: No.
• 33:09
  S10: Right? So I want to be like him. This is
• 33:11
  S10: the this is the whole point. He's my vision for
• 33:13
  S10: who I want to be. He's on the cross saying,
• 33:15
  S10: forgive them for they don't know what they're doing. These
• 33:19
  S10: people are mocking him and deriding him. He's the perfect
• 33:23
  S10: son of God. Like so I, I have to, I
• 33:25
  S10: have to say like my own stance towards the world.
• 33:28
  S10: I cannot be constantly taking offense. And I think a
• 33:31
  S10: lot of us are taught wrong about the world, and
• 33:34
  S10: we think we're supposed to be offended by everything all
• 33:37
  S10: the time. Like, well, that's that's actually a terrible way
• 33:39
  S10: to live. It's not even healthy.
• 33:41
  S6: You know, I'm sitting here cogitating on something. Brandt. I'm
• 33:44
  S6: wondering if being undefendable might be one of the pinnacle
• 33:49
  S6: fruits of you got the real deal going on with Jesus?
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  S10: I think so. I think it's ministry because if you
• 33:56
  S10: think about it, I mean, I liken it to my
• 33:57
  S10: grandma was a wonderful woman, but late in her life,
• 34:01
  S10: she's in a nursing home and she was a jerk.
• 34:03
  S10: You know, she's 95 years old and she's they would
• 34:06
  S10: hand her everything. She was a servant servant. And then,
• 34:10
  S10: you know, she's, she's going through dementia and whatnot. But
• 34:13
  S10: the nurses, people waiting on her, she would take the
• 34:16
  S10: orange juice and throw it back at them, you know,
• 34:19
  S10: and they would have to say, now, Rita, calm down.
• 34:21
  S10: It's like, well, that nurse is being unaffordable. That's understanding
• 34:25
  S10: that this person is not in her right mind. Like,
• 34:27
  S10: I'm not going to go. Yeah, how dare this person.
• 34:30
  S10: Like humans are broken. We know this. So to go
• 34:34
  S10: through life where we're constantly shocked that humans can be
• 34:37
  S10: jerks or humans can be evil, like, we already know this. Father.
• 34:41
  S10: Forgive them. They don't know what they're doing. It doesn't
• 34:42
  S10: mean it's not moral relativism at all. It's, it's our
• 34:45
  S10: mindset of forgiveness, which is a much healthier, healthier way
• 34:48
  S10: to go through life.
• 34:49
  S2: Yeah. Your first book, unaffordable, that's the title, helped prompt
• 34:53
  S2: a national conversation on forgiveness. You know, we don't forgive. Well,
• 34:59
  S2: and many people feel like I have the right to
• 35:02
  S2: be offended because would you just look at what's going
• 35:05
  S2: on around me? How could I not be?
• 35:08
  S10: Yeah. Dallas Willard said this is America's American. Christian's biggest
• 35:13
  S10: problem is anger because we're not taught out of it. Yeah.
• 35:17
  S10: We're taught, and I know this is very controversial and
• 35:19
  S10: I've had to learn this myself. Okay. So give me
• 35:22
  S10: a shot. At first you'll disagree, and I understand that,
• 35:24
  S10: but we're taught that we have this thing called righteous anger.
• 35:28
  S10: God has righteous anger in Scripture. Righteous anger is very
• 35:32
  S10: real in Scripture. It's God's because he's sinless for us.
• 35:38
  S10: We're told to get rid of it before the sun
• 35:40
  S10: goes down. So it's not sin that it happens to us.
• 35:44
  S10: It's fight or flight response, but we have to get
• 35:46
  S10: rid of it, which means we actually are supposed to
• 35:48
  S10: forgive our enemies and forgive the people who have sinned
• 35:51
  S10: against us because we've been forgiven. If we don't do it.
• 35:56
  S10: We're like that unmerciful servant who has been forgiven for
• 36:00
  S10: so much and won't turn around and forgive others. So
• 36:02
  S10: the idea that we're supposed to hang on to anger
• 36:04
  S10: that we're supposed to keep it is not actually scriptural.
• 36:08
  S10: And it turns out that that way of living is
• 36:10
  S10: a deadly way of living. It ruins our relationships. It
• 36:13
  S10: ruins our our health. As a matter of fact, our
• 36:17
  S10: whole culture is sick with anger. Jesus, the way of
• 36:20
  S10: Jesus actually gives us a way out of it so
• 36:22
  S10: that we can we can take on injustice, but it's
• 36:25
  S10: not out of anger. It's out of. It's out of
• 36:28
  S10: a deep compassion and heartbreak for the world.
• 36:31
  S6: Brent, I want to pressure test. This pressure test is
• 36:34
  S6: a term that I learned from my dad when we
• 36:36
  S6: were plumbing our home together. And it's one thing to
• 36:38
  S6: solder up joints. It's another thing to put water in
• 36:41
  S6: it with pressure. Then you find out what's leaking. It's
• 36:43
  S6: one thing to say, yeah, I've got a well constructed
• 36:46
  S6: worldview and then put a little pressure on it and
• 36:48
  S6: you're going, whoa, it's springing leaks everywhere. So there's a
• 36:52
  S6: lot of there's a lot of social issues that people
• 36:55
  S6: get ticked off about, even committed Christ followers. And that's
• 36:58
  S6: one thing, but let's go to a core one. So
• 37:00
  S6: let's take, uh, let's take, let's take a hot button.
• 37:03
  S6: Let's take transgenderism. There's, there's two different ways, it seems,
• 37:09
  S6: because look, it's unmerciful to not hold truth in one hand,
• 37:13
  S6: but how you hold it. And that needs to be
• 37:16
  S6: carried with love. How does a person, from your vantage point,
• 37:20
  S6: straight up conversation, how do we handle the issue of transgenderism?
• 37:24
  S6: Holding on to the truth of God made man and
• 37:27
  S6: woman right? Okay. Without getting ticked off and offended and
• 37:32
  S6: becoming what I call angry evangelicals who's never saved a
• 37:35
  S6: person in their life.
• 37:37
  S10: Okay, number one, be grateful every day for your own forgiveness.
• 37:41
  S10: Be grateful every day. constantly. Gratitude. It's very difficult to
• 37:45
  S10: be grateful and angry at the same time.
• 37:47
  S2: Yeah.
• 37:48
  S10: I'm responsible for Calvary. I'm responsible for the death of Jesus.
• 37:53
  S10: I believe that. I believe that story. Yeah. So how
• 37:56
  S10: in the world do we then go, yeah, but they're disgusting. Okay.
• 38:00
  S10: So be aware of that. Secondly, we're not in a
• 38:04
  S10: battle against humans. We're we're in a spiritual battle against principalities. Yeah.
• 38:09
  S10: Like so you have to remind yourself of that. You
• 38:11
  S10: can get ticked off at the Starbucks barista because she
• 38:14
  S10: believes something different than you, or she's confused, or she's
• 38:17
  S10: given over to evil or, or even thinkers and leaders
• 38:21
  S10: who are given over to evil and they're causing destruction.
• 38:25
  S10: But we know that our battle is not against them,
• 38:28
  S10: and we're actually supposed to pray for them. So here's
• 38:30
  S10: my third thing about that. Are you actually actively praying
• 38:33
  S10: for these people, for them? Like you're for them if
• 38:36
  S10: you're not and you think, no, I need to stay angry.
• 38:40
  S6: Well, now you're meddling. now you're Madeleine Brand.
• 38:42
  S10: I know, but this. But this is so genius. What
• 38:45
  S10: Jesus is telling us to do. At first we're like, well,
• 38:47
  S10: that sounds really hard. It is at first. But for
• 38:50
  S10: this whole thing gets easier over time. We're actually rooting
• 38:53
  S10: for people and you can actually address injustices and evil,
• 38:57
  S10: and you do a better job without anger than you
• 38:59
  S10: do with it. You do a better job because your
• 39:03
  S10: mind is not clouded by anger. Where we get crossed
• 39:07
  S10: up is we think, well, I'm entitled to this because
• 39:09
  S10: Jesus went into the temple, or God has vengeance. I
• 39:11
  S10: should have vengeance like he's sinless. We're like the unmerciful servant.
• 39:17
  S10: If we don't turn around and offer this sort of
• 39:19
  S10: attitude towards other people that we've been given, we don't
• 39:21
  S10: forgive people because they deserve it. We forgive people because
• 39:24
  S10: we didn't deserve it.
• 39:26
  S6: Yeah. And and the, and the ire of, of Jesus there.
• 39:30
  S6: And the aim of his anger was not at the
• 39:33
  S6: general population. This was at the religious elite that were
• 39:37
  S6: standing in the way of the message of messiahship and grace.
• 39:41
  S6: I mean, so it's not even it's not even to
• 39:44
  S6: the 99.99% of the world where we focus our ire.
• 39:49
  S10: And if we equate ourselves with God, like I'm the
• 39:52
  S10: I'm the king and the unmerciful servant story. No, no,
• 39:55
  S10: you're the unmerciful servant like God is allowed vengeance. I'm
• 39:59
  S10: not God's allowed final judgment. I'm not. There are certain
• 40:02
  S10: things that are his because he's not a sinner. But
• 40:05
  S10: if you look at Scripture, it's very consistent on this.
• 40:08
  S10: People will bring up Ephesians 426 and they'll say, well,
• 40:11
  S10: it says, you know, in your anger do not sin.
• 40:13
  S10: I'm like, yeah, you're right. It does. Comma, what's the
• 40:16
  S10: rest of the verse? And we use that verse to
• 40:20
  S10: justify a life filled with anger. The rest of the
• 40:23
  S10: verse says, and be sure to get rid of your
• 40:25
  S10: anger before the sun goes down.
• 40:28
  S6: I'll tell you what's good about this. If there are
• 40:32
  S6: churches right now that are loaded with people, some of
• 40:35
  S6: whom are getting off in the weeds on social issues
• 40:38
  S6: that are truly unbiblical. That's fact. I'm just giving you fact.
• 40:43
  S6: And then but in that same church are people that
• 40:46
  S6: are taking a angry stand to try to hold on
• 40:49
  S6: to some turf. And those minds, those hearts will never
• 40:52
  S6: come together, Brent, until until we become unaffordable. You should
• 40:57
  S6: write a book on this.
• 40:58
  S10: Yeah. You know, the wild thing is, again, we'll address
• 41:02
  S10: these issues better without this self-righteous anger thing. And what's
• 41:08
  S10: also true. They've done they've done many social studies about this.
• 41:11
  S10: People who pat themselves on the back for being angry
• 41:14
  S10: about something are less likely to actually do something.
• 41:20
  S6: Now you're really.
• 41:21
  S11: Meddling, bro. You mean my anger.
• 41:23
  S2: Isn't doing something? It's not communicating to the world that
• 41:26
  S2: I think this is wrong. That's not a good thing.
• 41:29
  S6: It's showing them you're ticked off. Ali. Isn't that a girl?
• 41:31
  S11: Right, right.
• 41:33
  S10: But what I'm saying. Please hear this too, because people
• 41:35
  S10: will hear what I'm saying. I go, this can't be true.
• 41:37
  S10: What does this mean? Like somebody's abusive and I just
• 41:39
  S10: have to stay in relationship with them. No, no, no.
• 41:42
  S10: You still have boundaries. Yes, but in fact, the way
• 41:46
  S10: of Jesus is so genius. If you don't forgive that person,
• 41:51
  S10: maybe it's from your past. Like, for me, the things
• 41:53
  S10: you've gone through in your life, if you don't forgive
• 41:56
  S10: that person, you are staying in relationship with them in
• 42:00
  S10: your head forever. Like, do you really want that? Forgiveness
• 42:04
  S10: is freedom. Everything Jesus is telling us, and by the way,
• 42:08
  S10: he starts his ethical teachings in the sermon on the
• 42:10
  S10: Mount with the issue of anger. Like, if we don't
• 42:13
  S10: get past this, we're not going to be disciples. We're
• 42:15
  S10: not going to be able to grow up. So this
• 42:18
  S10: is a huge issue for us.
• 42:20
  S6: So all the way around Macready's barn, that's what we
• 42:23
  S6: love to talk about around here. Go around Macready's barn
• 42:25
  S6: went all the way around Macready's barn. We're back to
• 42:27
  S6: this Jesus talking to this guy. He wasn't offended when
• 42:31
  S6: the rich young ruler said, and I got too much money.
• 42:35
  S6: I can't give it all up to follow you. He
• 42:38
  S6: wasn't offended by that. He just in his heart did break. Because, yeah,
• 42:44
  S6: he was grieved. Um, but I, I wanted you to
• 42:47
  S6: do this because the response during cure by the boom crew.
• 42:52
  S6: Come on, tell tell the boom crew what you told
• 42:55
  S6: me off microphone about how cool these people are that
• 42:58
  S6: gave to cure. Dude.
• 43:00
  S10: I, I have been praying for you. I want to
• 43:03
  S10: tell people I haven't been asking God to bless you financially.
• 43:07
  S10: And this is not a this is not a health
• 43:10
  S10: and wealth gospel thing. I'm saying, because you gave to
• 43:13
  S10: the poor that he would enrich you in every way
• 43:17
  S10: so that you could be generous again and you could
• 43:19
  S10: see his goodness. I gotta tell you guys, because it
• 43:22
  S10: was great being on the air with you and talking
• 43:24
  S10: about cure and healing kids in the name of Jesus
• 43:26
  S10: and paying for these surgeries. My wife and I participated
• 43:29
  S10: in the drive and we gave what for us is
• 43:32
  S10: a significant amount of money. Okay. So for us, I
• 43:36
  S10: got a check last week or a deposit and I
• 43:40
  S10: don't have to get into this, but I didn't see
• 43:41
  S10: it coming. And it was within $20 of what I gave.
• 43:46
  S2: Whoa!
• 43:46
  S6: Oh my goodness.
• 43:48
  S10: I'm not kidding. Yeah. I told my wife when she
• 43:51
  S10: got home, she was out shopping. I got home like,
• 43:53
  S10: you're not gonna believe this. And it almost makes me
• 43:55
  S10: want to cry because I'm like, he's so good. It's
• 43:58
  S10: like a little nod. Like when you care for these kids,
• 44:02
  S10: there's there's that marginalized. And when you're paying for them
• 44:05
  S10: to be healed and that their, their moms in particular
• 44:08
  S10: can hear that they didn't do anything wrong. They're not cursed.
• 44:11
  S10: God loves them. These people are so close to the
• 44:14
  S10: heart of God. I think he's got your back on this.
• 44:16
  S10: And I think you can give and give and give.
• 44:18
  S6: Yeah.
• 44:19
  S10: And he will take he'll make sure that you can
• 44:21
  S10: still give. And I hope that that happens for everybody
• 44:25
  S10: who gave. Um, I really do. And I, I hope
• 44:29
  S10: you track with that and see like, wait, I didn't
• 44:31
  S10: see this coming. We're actually fine. And it's not so
• 44:34
  S10: that you can give again to cure. There's no self-interest.
• 44:37
  S10: It's so that you can, although you might. But it's
• 44:39
  S10: like it's so that you can see how this is
• 44:41
  S10: a cooperative partnership with God that we get to be
• 44:44
  S10: a part of his his family business, which is healing
• 44:47
  S10: and proclaiming the kingdom of God.
• 44:49
  S2: Brian Hanson, such a joy to have you back with
• 44:51
  S2: us this morning. We've been talking about this book, unaffordable.
• 44:55
  S2: It has been out for a while, but boy, it
• 44:57
  S2: feels like it could have been written this year because
• 45:00
  S2: it's very.
• 45:01
  S11: It's.
• 45:01
  S6: Almost it's what year did you write that?
• 45:03
  S2: 2015 that it was published?
• 45:05
  S11: Oh my word.
• 45:06
  S10: 2015. But I could, I could see that we have
• 45:09
  S10: a major problem with anger. And I see it myself
• 45:12
  S10: when I was asking questions like, how long am I
• 45:14
  S10: supposed to stay angry about stuff? And no one could
• 45:16
  S10: answer it. And so I'm like, well, what's what's the
• 45:19
  S10: Bible actually say?
• 45:21
  S11: Well, why'd you go asking that?
• 45:22
  S6: Because then you're going to get convicted by the Holy Spirit. Brant.
• 45:26
  S10: I know, but but but but. Hear me out. Everything
• 45:29
  S10: Jesus tells us is genius. When people are like, man,
• 45:31
  S10: it's so hard to forgive. It's like, yeah, it's hard
• 45:35
  S10: at first. But you know what's harder? A life of unforgiveness. Yeah.
• 45:38
  S10: Jesus gives us rest. His way is easier and lighter.
• 45:42
  S10: He even said so. So at first it's like, oh no,
• 45:46
  S10: I gotta forgive people in traffic. I gotta pray for
• 45:48
  S10: people who hate me. Like, yeah, you know what? This
• 45:51
  S10: is the way of freedom.
• 45:52
  S2: Yeah.
• 45:53
  S11: Yeah, it.
• 45:53
  S6: Really is, man.
• 45:54
  S2: If you want more on the book, just text Brandt
• 45:56
  S2: to (800) 555-7898. Our guest, Brandt Hansen, just text Brandt BRANT
• 46:04
  S2: to 805 557898.
• 46:07
  S6: And there's something more here. If anything Brandt said offended you,
• 46:11
  S6: that's God's dinner bell for you to go get a book.
• 46:15
  S11: Oh, boy.
• 46:18
  S6: Oh, Brad Hansen, you can come in here and medal
• 46:21
  S6: anytime you want. Oh, how was that keyword again?
• 46:25
  S2: It's Brant to 805 557898.
• 46:29
  S1: Walking closer to Jesus every day. You're listening to Carl
• 46:33
  S1: and crew.
• 46:34
  S6: Carl and crew helping you take your next step with Jesus.
• 46:38
  S6: And here's the beautiful thing about it. According to Jesus,
• 46:40
  S6: your next step might be not a good one.
• 46:43
  S4: What what what?
• 46:44
  S6: Yeah. We come. We come to Jesus as as children,
• 46:49
  S6: we're not fit for the kingdom of God unless we
• 46:51
  S6: come to him as children. And I got a crazy
• 46:56
  S6: admission to make guys.
• 46:58
  S11: Okay.
• 46:59
  S6: Oh, boy. This will just show the love of God
• 47:04
  S6: in a really cool way, but. So we got baby Kate,
• 47:09
  S6: our granddaughter, coming to our home today, and that's awesome.
• 47:12
  S6: A couple days a week, grandma takes care of her predominantly,
• 47:16
  S6: but I get my turns to where I go out
• 47:18
  S6: for a walk with her and, uh, but I, I
• 47:22
  S6: told my bride, I said, in a pinch, I'll do it.
• 47:25
  S6: But I just need you to know I'm not going
• 47:27
  S6: to change her diapers. I said, I don't know what
• 47:29
  S6: it is, but it's. The grandkids are different than my kids,
• 47:33
  S6: and it's been a while, and I don't even know
• 47:35
  S6: how to do it anymore. And, you know, I got
• 47:38
  S6: I know they got the new fangled dilemma where, you know,
• 47:41
  S6: you they're like, like custom fit these diapers nowadays. Wow.
• 47:45
  S11: Oh my goodness fit.
• 47:47
  S2: Um, I don't know.
• 47:48
  S11: About custom fit.
• 47:49
  S6: Well, you know, they got the.
• 47:51
  S3: They got the spoilers on the back and the.
• 47:53
  S11: Well.
• 47:53
  S6: They got the little ribbed edges in the Spandau things
• 47:56
  S6: in the back.
• 47:57
  S11: Oh it's.
• 47:58
  S3: It's the best.
• 47:58
  S6: It's all bun sizes kind of a thing.
• 48:00
  S3: With all the diapers I'm changing nowadays. I think back
• 48:02
  S3: to when people said they had like the reusable diapers,
• 48:05
  S3: like the cloth diapers.
• 48:06
  S6: Reusables is what he called them reusable.
• 48:09
  S11: Reusable.
• 48:11
  S3: I mean, that's what they are though, and it's insane.
• 48:13
  S11: We used them as we.
• 48:14
  S6: Used in Africa when we had when we had our
• 48:16
  S6: kids down there, when we didn't get the little custom jobbies.
• 48:20
  S11: With the little.
• 48:21
  S6: The Little.
• 48:22
  S3: And I'm so thankful they have these things now because
• 48:24
  S3: I don't want to do that.
• 48:25
  S6: Yeah. So I'm, I'm I told my bride, I said
• 48:28
  S6: in a pinch, I'll do it. But if you could
• 48:30
  S6: be sure to be available when we got a blowout
• 48:33
  S6: on aisle two here.
• 48:35
  S11: Um.
• 48:35
  S6: Yeah, I that would be great because I'm just. But
• 48:38
  S6: here's the cool thing. God, in essence, and I'm not
• 48:43
  S6: trying to be crude here, but God. God will clean
• 48:46
  S6: up our messes. He says, if you come to me
• 48:48
  S6: as a little child, these were not potty trained kids
• 48:52
  S6: in the metaphor, you got to take it to its
• 48:54
  S6: full extent. God says, look, you don't even have words
• 48:58
  S6: to say. You can't walk, but I'm going to help
• 49:02
  S6: you and I'll clean up your messes. How's that for
• 49:05
  S6: walking a fine line right there?
• 49:07
  S3: I think it's I think it's a great metaphor, actually,
• 49:10
  S3: because a kid doesn't go to their mom and dad
• 49:14
  S3: embarrassed that they have a mess that needs to be
• 49:17
  S3: cleaned up. They just come and they have. I need
• 49:20
  S3: this mess cleaned up. Yeah. Can you help me?
• 49:22
  S6: Funny thing about baby Kate, by the way, she loves
• 49:25
  S6: diaper changing. Apparently, she's like, ha ha ha. Big old
• 49:29
  S6: smiles and just thinks it's the greatest thing in the world.
• 49:32
  S6: I think she likes the fresh air, but I digress.
• 49:34
  S6: Go ahead, young Thunder.
• 49:35
  S3: Yeah. No. And so I think it's a it really
• 49:37
  S3: is a good metaphor because a kid doesn't come to
• 49:40
  S3: their parent embarrassed that they have a mess in their diaper.
• 49:43
  S3: And so we, we also shouldn't be coming to God
• 49:48
  S3: embarrassed when we have a mess. Yeah. You know, we
• 49:51
  S3: he's he's our father. That's what he does.
• 49:54
  S6: Oh, boy. I'm getting shamed now. Somebody just texted me.
• 49:56
  S6: Tell Carl he needs to man up.
• 49:58
  S12: Oh, boy.
• 50:00
  S6: All right, maybe I do. All right. All right, Ali,
• 50:02
  S6: you take it from here. I'm. I'm done.
• 50:04
  S2: We got a question out there for you. What have
• 50:06
  S2: you learned about faith in Christ from a child in
• 50:09
  S2: your life? We've got Kathleen calling in from Zionsville, Indiana. Kathleen,
• 50:14
  S2: tell us, what have you learned from a child in
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  S2: your life?
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  S13: Hi. Well, I was in a it was a young
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  S13: adult class at church and it was mostly young couples.
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  S13: And we had a young woman in there, but she
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  S13: had um, intellectual disability. So she thought like a child.
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  S13: And I simply shared the gospel message with her one
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  S13: day after class. And she accepted and she came back
• 50:40
  S13: and she wanted to give her testimony. And her testimony
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  S13: was she loved me to Christ. And that's how she
• 50:48
  S13: saw it in her mind was someone loved her. And
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  S13: that's what got her to accept Jesus love.
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  S12: Wow.
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  S6: Yeah. That is beautiful. Thank you for sharing that, Kathleen.
• 50:57
  S6: It's amazing what you learn from kids. Childlike faith. Let's
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  S6: go back to the phone lines. Naomi West, Palm Beach, Florida.
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  S6: What do you say? Naomi.
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  S14: Hi. Um, well, I was actually having a very stressful,
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  S14: hectic day. It seemed as if everything was out of
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  S14: my control, and I genuinely felt overwhelmed. So my grandson,
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  S14: who was five at the time, he asked if I
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  S14: could help him with something. And my immediate response was,
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  S14: Gammy is doing so many things. I'm doing everything by myself.
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  S14: It's just me. And his response was, no, grandma, you're
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  S14: not doing everything by yourself. God is helping you. And
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  S14: at that moment, I knew God used my grandson to
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  S14: remind me that I was not alone.
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  S15: Oh boy.
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  S14: God was there. And it was just such an eye
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  S14: opener of like, wow, you're right. And I told him,
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  S14: you're right, daddy. You're helping me.
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  S15: Boom.
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  S6: Sorry. I'm tromping all over you and Naomi. I'm just
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  S6: blown away. I love that, so I could that could
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  S6: be me in a heartbeat. Ellie.
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  S2: I'm doing this. You see, all I'm doing, I'm doing
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  S2: it for myself. And then. Wait, wait. Grandma. No, I
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  S2: love that.
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  S1: Celebrating the unstoppable gospel.
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  S3: It's not that I've got to fill in these check boxes.
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  S3: So he's okay with me, but it's that I get
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  S3: to stand close to him so that I can experience
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  S3: the life that he has for me.
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  S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
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  S6: It's Carl and crew. We're looking at a text today.
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  S6: Whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a
• 52:24
  S6: child pigeon is the Greek word. It's an important word.
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  S6: It means humble. And it referred to babies that were
• 52:32
  S6: infants or very small, which is fascinating because what do
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  S6: they have to offer Jesus?
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  S2: I mean, nothing in the natural sense. No, nothing.
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  S6: No. That's the that's the beauty of it. Because when
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  S6: you feel like you got nothing, you got Jesus. Oh, man. Okay.
• 52:49
  S6: What's the question here, Ali?
• 52:51
  S2: What have you learned about faith in Christ from a
• 52:54
  S2: child in your life? We've got Nancy calling in this
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  S2: morning from Indianapolis. Tell us. Nancy.
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  S16: Yes. I was sitting on the porch one day with
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  S16: my granddaughter and great granddaughter, and she said, granny, what
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  S16: are you doing? I said, I'm playing a puzzle on
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  S16: my phone. I'm just trying to clear my mind. I
• 53:16
  S16: have a lot on my mind. She said, we sing
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  S16: a song at school. It says, God will do what
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  S16: he said he would do. He will fulfill every promise
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  S16: to you. And then she screamed out real loud, he's able.
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  S16: And I just I tell you, it brought so much
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  S16: joy to me.
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  S6: That'll make you get all your games off your phone,
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  S6: won't it? Oh my goodness, Nancy, that is so awesome.
• 53:48
  S6: Thank you for calling in. Boom sister. Oh, I love that.
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  S6: What are you doing, grandma or great grandma? Is that right?
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  S3: Yeah. Great. Grandma.
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  S2: Grandma. Yeah.
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  S6: Oh my word. What are you doing? Great, grandma. Let
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  S6: me tell you how you can be rich in faith.
• 54:04
  S6: Great grandma, without shaming you. Just totally embarrassing you.
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  S3: You're so good.
• 54:09
  S6: Oh, that is so classic. Oh. That's beautiful. Taking your
• 54:13
  S6: phone calls here this morning. Who do we have here? Alex?
• 54:16
  S2: We've got Caleb calling in from Chattanooga, Tennessee. Caleb, what
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  S2: have you learned about faith in Christ from a child
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  S2: in your life?
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  S17: Um, I think when my four kids were little and
• 54:26
  S17: we first started getting them into Bible study and preschool through,
• 54:31
  S17: through the church, it was how quickly they grasped it.
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  S17: I mean, after two minutes of hearing who Jesus was
• 54:39
  S17: and what he did, they were, I mean, completely sold
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  S17: on it. And I think as an adult, I overcomplicate things,
• 54:47
  S17: you know, when it's it's pretty simple. Yeah, that's that's
• 54:51
  S17: what I picked up from them.
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  S6: That's a great observation. Caleb. Love you man. Boom. Brother
• 54:56
  S6: from Chattanooga, Tennessee, by the way. Chattanooga. Oh my goodness dude.
• 55:00
  S6: Just a quick parenthetical thought that Whole Foods that's down
• 55:03
  S6: there on the river bring up Caleb that whole foods
• 55:06
  S6: down on the river. right across. You go right across
• 55:09
  S6: the street and you can eat right there by the river.
• 55:11
  S6: Oh my. What a beautiful setting you've got in Chattanooga there, friend.
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  S6: Oh my.
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  S17: Goodness. Amen.
• 55:17
  S6: All right. Enjoy. Caleb, get down to Whole Foods. Get
• 55:19
  S6: yourself a drink and go down to the river.
• 55:21
  S2: So random.
• 55:22
  S6: I'm telling you, man, Chattanooga is a great city.
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  S1: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
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  S6: Asking you a question. And it's a good one this morning.
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  S2: A good.
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  S6: Good. Okay, good.
• 55:37
  S2: What have you learned about faith in Christ from a
• 55:40
  S2: child in your life? We've got Wendy calling in this
• 55:43
  S2: morning from Florida. Wendy, what have you learned?
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  S18: Good morning. I love listening to you guys. Thank you
• 55:50
  S18: for having me on. So my son, when he was
• 55:54
  S18: a lot younger, he would say some pretty profound things.
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  S18: He's 24 now, but I will never forget this. He, um,
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  S18: he was in art class in elementary and he had
• 56:04
  S18: painted a picture of me that I did not think
• 56:06
  S18: was very complimentary or reflective.
• 56:10
  S15: I love those childhood portraits.
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  S18: But all the features were exaggerated. And I said, Corbin,
• 56:18
  S18: does mommy really look like this? Is my mouth like that?
• 56:21
  S18: I'm not even smiling. I'm going on. And he's quite
• 56:24
  S18: the practical joker. But he got very serious and he said, mom,
• 56:28
  S18: past versions of you say nothing until you give them
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  S18: a mouth. And I went, what? Exactly. My reaction. And, um,
• 56:39
  S18: he just kind of it wasn't even said in a
• 56:41
  S18: joking way. He was very serious and he moved on. Um,
• 56:45
  S18: but it's just something I never forgot. It was just
• 56:47
  S18: so profound. And I was like, okay, I have the
• 56:52
  S18: Dalai Lama of elementary in my home right now. Lord
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  S18: help me to raise this child.
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  S15: But, um, but.
• 57:01
  S6: Is he a philosopher now?
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  S18: Yeah, he's he's quite interesting. He's taking a lot of
• 57:06
  S18: people under his wing. He's doing great things. He loves
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  S18: the Lord. Um, he's 24. I'm actually going to see
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  S18: him this weekend. Uh, he lives up in Jacksonville. But
• 57:15
  S18: it was just amazing how he tied it into the artwork.
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  S18: And I think about that all the time. I'm not
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  S18: really where I used to be. I'm not all that
• 57:23
  S18: I could be. But, um, I think about it a lot.
• 57:26
  S18: It's just one of those things that keeps me going.
• 57:28
  S18: Sometimes kids, they're just used by God in an amazing
• 57:31
  S18: way to communicate truth, you know?
• 57:34
  S6: Yeah. I want you to call your boy today and
• 57:37
  S6: tell him, hey, that piece of art you did elementary school.
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  S6: The whole world knows about it.
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  S15: Now I'm.
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  S18: Going to do.
• 57:45
  S15: That. And I still have that picture.
• 57:46
  S18: Hanging in my bedroom.
• 57:47
  S15: Now I get it. You know what a great meaning.
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  S6: Yeah. Great reminder, Wendy. Thank you from Florida. Uh, let's
• 57:54
  S6: keep going. The phones here. Ali. Who do we have?
• 57:55
  S2: We've got Cara, who's calling in from Sugar Grove, Illinois.
• 57:58
  S2: What have you learned about faith, Cara? Faith in Christ
• 58:01
  S2: from a child in your life?
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  S19: Yes. Good morning. Well, I was at a Sonic three
• 58:06
  S19: movie with my six year old grandson recently, and at
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  S19: the end, the one character shadow has to spoiler alert,
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  S19: but has to, uh. He decides he's going to sacrifice
• 58:19
  S19: himself to save the world. And my grandson looked at
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  S19: me and said, sorry, I'm getting choked up now. He said, grandma,
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  S19: that's what Jesus did for us.
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  S15: Wow, wow.
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  S19: And he was crying.
• 58:35
  S15: And then I started crying.
• 58:38
  S6: Oh yeah, you just ruined the movie for someone. But
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  S6: you made our day.
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  S19: Well, it's been out for a while.
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  S15: Yeah.
• 58:46
  S6: That's good, that's good.
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  S4: Wow.
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  S2: Isn't it amazing how so many of those movies, like
• 58:52
  S2: in the superhero lane, you can see a thread of
• 58:58
  S2: the Bible. Yeah.
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  S15: Oh.
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  S6: Oh, yeah.
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  S2: Sally, we are hard wired to want a hero, you know?
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  S2: And so when you watch closely, you see those threads
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  S2: and you think, where did that come from? I mean,
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  S2: that wasn't just some the creative mind of the filmmaker.
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  S2: This is there's. This is biblical.
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  S6: We are hardwired to want a hero.
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  S2: Absolutely.
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  S6: We are. That's beautiful. Allie.
• 59:23
  S2: Good old Sonic.
• 59:26
  S6: What is Sonic? Isn't he a hedgehog?
• 59:28
  S3: Sonic the Hedgehog!
• 59:29
  S6: Yeah. I haven't caught those flicks yet. Okay. Perry and indie.
• 59:32
  S6: What do you say, Perry?
• 59:34
  S20: Uh, eight years ago. I'm 73 now. Eight years ago,
• 59:39
  S20: I was in a pretty bad motorcycle accident.
• 59:42
  S21: Oh, boy.
• 59:43
  S20: And as I was recovering at home, my grandson Henry
• 59:48
  S20: came to visit. Henry was eight at the time, and
• 59:53
  S20: he was born with Down's.
• 59:55
  S21: Oh.
• 59:56
  S20: And as the family was leaving. Henry stayed behind and
• 1:00:01
  S20: he told me, Papa, it'll be okay. Jesus is here.
• 1:00:08
  S20: And it touched me so much. Um, it was just
• 1:00:16
  S20: unbelievable that an eight year old little boy with Down's
• 1:00:21
  S20: had that much vision to realize that Jesus was there
• 1:00:27
  S20: with us.
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  S12: Wow.
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  S6: Perry. That's beautiful. I'll tell you why. That's beautiful. Perry
• 1:00:32
  S6: is because that's just that's just this passage. Whoever does
• 1:00:35
  S6: not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall
• 1:00:38
  S6: not enter it. There's so much to learn from little kiddos.
• 1:00:41
  S6: And that is beautiful. Boom, brother. Oh, boy. Let's get
• 1:00:45
  S6: a couple more in here. At least one. Allie.
• 1:00:47
  S2: Okay. Luana from Florida. What have you learned about faith
• 1:00:51
  S2: in Christ from a child in your life?
• 1:00:53
  S19: We had two boys in the one had tonsillitis and
• 1:00:58
  S19: was very, very sick with it. And his brother prayed
• 1:01:02
  S19: and he said, dear Lord, please heal John's throat. It'll
• 1:01:06
  S19: be easy for you because you're in his heart. You
• 1:01:08
  S19: just have to go up to his throat.
• 1:01:10
  S15: 000. Oh.
• 1:01:17
  S6: You're in his heart. You just have to go up
• 1:01:19
  S6: to his throat.
• 1:01:20
  S2: Oh, boy, that is so sweet. Luana, how long ago
• 1:01:25
  S2: was that?
• 1:01:28
  S19: A long, long time ago. Because they're both retired now.
• 1:01:32
  S15: Oh.
• 1:01:34
  S6: They're both retired now.
• 1:01:35
  S2: That's one you don't forget.
• 1:01:36
  S6: Oh my word. That's beautiful. Luana. Thanks for calling in. Raquel.
• 1:01:41
  S6: You get you get a word here from Saint Cloud, Florida.
• 1:01:43
  S6: Let's get you in here quickly. What do you say Raquel?
• 1:01:45
  S6: What's your story?
• 1:01:47
  S22: Yes. Good morning. God bless you all. Um, when I
• 1:01:50
  S22: pick up my my voice. I have two boys. A
• 1:01:52
  S22: young man's already. My middle child never sleeps, but the
• 1:01:56
  S22: youngest one used to. So one day I was looking
• 1:01:59
  S22: through the mirror and I said, oh, Chris, you fell asleep.
• 1:02:02
  S22: You must be very tired. And after around seven minutes
• 1:02:06
  S22: after then he said, mom, I was not sleeping, I
• 1:02:09
  S22: was praying. So he choked me and it was amazing.
• 1:02:13
  S22: And that little, that little one, you know, every time
• 1:02:16
  S22: they were baptism or the the communion, you know, he
• 1:02:19
  S22: always jump out of the of the Bible school. And
• 1:02:24
  S22: then he just sat on the front row just observing
• 1:02:27
  S22: and observing. But that day that he was praying and
• 1:02:30
  S22: he just told me. And the good thing is that
• 1:02:32
  S22: he never opened his eyes to answer to me, that
• 1:02:35
  S22: when I'm calming that he was sleeping, you must be
• 1:02:38
  S22: very tired. So he finished his prayer. So he prioritized
• 1:02:42
  S22: the right thing. And I am so blessed for oh.
• 1:02:45
  S6: What a story.
• 1:02:46
  S15: I'm not sleeping. I'm praying, I'm praying.
• 1:02:48
  S6: And he never opened his eyes. He just kept rolling.