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Patriots Unfiltered 1/7: Chargers Preview, Vrabel Presser/Reaction, Team News/Updates · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: of veget podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. An exciting time
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  Speaker 1: to be here at Jillette Stadium from four thirteen to
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  Speaker 1: thirteen or four? Are we interrupting your screen time?
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  Speaker 2: Pall?
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was just looking to see if Stefan Diggs was
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  Speaker 3: a screen or slant. I mean I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, the difference and energy do.
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  Speaker 3: They wouldn't have forty six touchdowns or whatever he threw?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they would.
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  Speaker 5: Be maybe fourteen and three for selfred. Okay, we had
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  Speaker 5: the most twenty plus yard touchdown pass. They were tied
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  Speaker 5: in Stafford twenty plus air yards air yards.
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  Speaker 3: I know I have to nerd it up hair yards.
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  Speaker 1: My little fun research took me yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: I just started watching third and medium, like third and
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  Speaker 6: three to six?
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  Speaker 1: What did you do to him? Though? Okay, what do
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  Speaker 1: we got many? Jerry? We have a show to do.
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  Speaker 1: You're we need our guest at him? Which Stafford have
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  Speaker 1: won as many games for the team as made it?
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  Speaker 1: I think you would have, yes, because he's an mvpain.
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  Speaker 1: All right, here we are Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: at Gillette Stadium. It's Evan, Paul Duce, myself, Alex and
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  Speaker 1: the booth getting ready for the La Chargers. Right off
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  Speaker 1: the bat, I want to turn people to have you
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  Speaker 1: posted your your game?
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  Speaker 4: No, that would be tomorrow morning.
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  Speaker 1: Oh tomorrow morning. Oh see yeah, when you post that,
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  Speaker 1: I would recommend people reading that and figuring out how
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to beat the Chargers. So show's over.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have nothing. I'm only kidding.
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  Speaker 4: I spent this one was a it was a playoff game,
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  Speaker 4: right like, so we went all out. We went all out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how many?
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  Speaker 4: There's like four thousand words, there's ten clips going in there.
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  Speaker 4: This is come on, it was it was my first
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  Speaker 4: time off writing it for the playoffs, so it had
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  Speaker 4: to be big talk the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna be talking about the Chargers
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  Speaker 1: in this game coming up, uh, Sunday night, Sunday night game.
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  Speaker 1: And Paul, I heard that your schooled the morning show
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  Speaker 1: on your station.
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  Speaker 3: I did not school anybody, just to let them know
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  Speaker 3: that trying to give them a little of the insight
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  Speaker 3: that we read about yesterday. We talked a little bit
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  Speaker 3: about it on our show yesterday and they.
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  Speaker 1: Were saying that, you know, the Sunday night game is
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  Speaker 1: the premier show game and the Patriots are in it,
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  Speaker 1: and Paul had to tell them, no, it's not the.
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  Speaker 3: Marquee matchup, you know. And this was kind of news
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  Speaker 3: to me too. I always felt the same way that
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  Speaker 3: they were talking about it in the morning show with
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  Speaker 3: Fred and and Hardy on the Sports Hub. But I
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  Speaker 3: guess there was a Chicago Sun Times column that sort
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  Speaker 3: of detailed a lot of the league's thought process and
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  Speaker 3: the number one matchup they deem is the four to
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  Speaker 3: twenty five Sunday afternoon That is the most watched game
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  Speaker 3: of the weekend in the NFL's eyes, and they wanted
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  Speaker 3: their best matchup to be in that slot, which was
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  Speaker 3: San fran And at Philly. They felt the Packers Bears
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  Speaker 3: was their second best matchup. Normally they would put that
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  Speaker 3: on the Sunday night. They decided to put it in
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  Speaker 3: Saturday night because they're trying to boost the popularity of
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  Speaker 3: the Amazon game, which is the streamed game Saturday night,
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  Speaker 3: eight o'clock, looking maybe for a younger audience, you know,
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  Speaker 3: get the streaming involved, get the streaming numbers that you gotta.
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  Speaker 1: Plus it up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, plus it up. So that's what the reasoning was
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  Speaker 3: for putting that game. They feel like if they had
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  Speaker 3: put like say, Jaguars Bills in that slot, maybe some
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  Speaker 3: people would have said I don't have to see that one.
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  Speaker 3: But people feel like there's enough of a draw with
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  Speaker 3: Green Bay Chicago that people will. So I'll be like
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  Speaker 3: me and say it's streaming, that's not for me. I'll
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  Speaker 3: do something else Saturday night.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, I mean to interrupt you. I had heard that
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  Speaker 4: the networks were all fighting over Bear's Packers and the
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  Speaker 4: fact that they gave it to Amazon. There was a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of tension among the suits.
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  Speaker 3: I got that impression from reading the story that I
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  Speaker 3: read today.
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  Speaker 4: That they gave Amazon a cookie and said here's Bear's
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  Speaker 4: Packers instead of like, you know, Panthers Rams or like
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  Speaker 4: some crappy game. Relatively speaking, of course.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought the Patriots would be in that
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  Speaker 3: four twenty five Sunday slot. Obviously they just flip flopped
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  Speaker 3: it and you get a marquee spot. And Matt Smith
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  Speaker 3: No Socks, the famous No Socks opined that because the
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl is on NBC this year, maybe this is
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  Speaker 3: an effort to throw some crumbs to some of the
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  Speaker 3: other networks, knowing that the you know, the NBC is
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  Speaker 3: going to have, you know, the marquee of all matchups
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  Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, regardless of who that is. So
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  Speaker 3: maybe this is an effort to please all of the partners.
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  Speaker 1: So there's that. The other thing I want to bring
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  Speaker 1: up is, uh, you know this talk and it's more
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  Speaker 1: than just a few people, how are you going to
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  Speaker 1: feel if the Patriots lose? And you know, is it
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  Speaker 1: a disappointment, is it a success? Is it a failure?
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  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. It's like, why what is this obsession
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  Speaker 1: of preparing us and figuring out how we're going to
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  Speaker 1: feel if they lose? Yeah, Like, I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't's what you do? You set yourself up for failure?
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  Speaker 1: Right, It's like, let's worry about that. Then the other
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  Speaker 1: thing I and we were just talking No Socks Paul
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  Speaker 1: myself before the AFC is wide open. We all agree
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  Speaker 1: that with that, except for maybe Pittsburgh. It's a pretty
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  Speaker 1: evil and field. There's going to be a loser in
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  Speaker 1: every one of these games, you know, and it's going
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  Speaker 1: to come down to you know, bad call or turnover, jeez,
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  Speaker 1: or whatever's going to come down. I you know, most
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  Speaker 1: of these games are probably going to be not be closed.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think they're all yeah, are pretty squad.
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  Speaker 1: They all have their strengths, they all have their weaknesses.
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  Speaker 1: One team is going to lose every one of these games.
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  Speaker 1: So should that fan base all be you know, up
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  Speaker 1: in arms like they think the Patriots fan base should
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  Speaker 1: be because they missed this opportunity. It's an opportunity for
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  Speaker 1: every one of these teams in the playoffs. I just
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  Speaker 1: let's not folks, Let's not worry about that. Let's be
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  Speaker 1: overjoyed with the fact that we're fourteen and three, We're
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. We're ahead of schedule. I don't care
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  Speaker 1: what anyone says. We're a head of schedule. And let's
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  Speaker 1: let's take every game one game at a time and
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  Speaker 1: not worry about Monday. Let's worry about Sunday night, and
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  Speaker 1: if God forbid we lose, let's get ready for twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six, you know, like, oh God, I am.
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  Speaker 4: One hundred percent in the school of I hate losing
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  Speaker 4: more than I like winning, everybody, and so I just
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  Speaker 4: absolutely dread losing, like I dread everything about it. Like
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  Speaker 4: I think that that is that just stinks all around.
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  Speaker 1: It does so terrible.
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  Speaker 4: So, like, I just think that for most of us,
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  Speaker 4: you just live in a fear of what if they lose? Right,
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  Speaker 4: And like you just you just prepare yourself for that outcome,
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  Speaker 4: because that's the worst possible feeling.
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  Speaker 1: Follow If you were a service for a soldier and
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  Speaker 1: you're going into battle, or if we are, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the person leading those men and women into battle, would
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  Speaker 1: you go in with the mentality what if we lose?
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  Speaker 4: I mean no, no, you go in like we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: take the.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think Vrabel's doing that, you know. But what
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  Speaker 6: does it look like though?
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  Speaker 7: You know?
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  Speaker 6: That's like you know, I mean, yeah, I think I
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  Speaker 6: hammered and like fifty six to nothing, Yeah, that would
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  Speaker 6: you know?
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  Speaker 1: But what if they go back and forth.
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  Speaker 6: With his team and it's a last possession and the
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  Speaker 6: other team just makes an outstanding play, you know. So
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  Speaker 6: I'm not going to get too worked up about the scenario.
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  Speaker 6: The fact is they're here. This is a playoff week here.
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  Speaker 6: The energy is awesome and it's just exciting to see
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  Speaker 6: them take a next step and win or lose. You're
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  Speaker 6: gonna stick with this team, and you want to see
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  Speaker 6: Drake may get some playoff experience, so you know whether
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  Speaker 6: or not he comes up a little short or not
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  Speaker 6: this weekend, like there's going to be positives.
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  Speaker 8: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with Mike.
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  Speaker 3: I think that that's a big part of it. I
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  Speaker 3: can't really envision this scenario where I'm like not going
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  Speaker 3: to be disappointed if they lose. But that doesn't mean that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just ignore the fact that they're way ahead
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  Speaker 3: of schedule and the future is bright and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that that's what I think this this comes
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  Speaker 3: down to. Like for specifically, for like Evan and I,
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  Speaker 3: there's such a gap in our ages and Fred. You
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  Speaker 3: know that I spent a lot of my time not
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  Speaker 3: only rooting for the Boston teams, but rooting for Northeastern,
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  Speaker 3: which means I have a lot of losing and a
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  Speaker 3: lot of callous you know, you know, day after games.
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  Speaker 3: You know, mentality point, I don't necessarily dread losing more
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  Speaker 3: than I enjoy winning. I think they're kind of the opposite.
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  Speaker 1: This is all the results.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't ever go into a game and say,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, what if they lose. I never do that.
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  Speaker 1: But this is all the results of the dynasty.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why, because you've done nothing but win.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Paul, tell me if I'm right or wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Here one in ninety six, when the Patriots went on
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  Speaker 1: their run and got to the Super Bowl, I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember the same dread of losing because we had never
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  Speaker 1: won before. We had never won it all.
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  Speaker 3: That's my point. It's just the difference. Like I you know,
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  Speaker 3: Evan just said, I do that all the time. I
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  Speaker 3: go because you've done nothing but win, I think, And
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  Speaker 3: it's not as situations younger and he's grown up with
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  Speaker 3: six titles.
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  Speaker 1: But would you agree with me?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I would agree with this. I would agree one
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  Speaker 3: thousand percent with you. I was as distant titles, I
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  Speaker 3: think in ninety six. I was as disappointed, of course,
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  Speaker 3: coming home from that game and we got stuck having.
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  Speaker 1: To shade you're winning at halftime.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well they weren't winning at half time. I was
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  Speaker 3: fourteen ten after the first quarter. Oh, I went downhill
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  Speaker 3: after that.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, why did they kick the ball to Desmond Howard?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I asked.
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  Speaker 3: Belichick, ya, when when they do when I was driving
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  Speaker 3: home ninety six. Yeah, they kicked it to Desmond Howard.
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  Speaker 3: He's right, heavans right.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, no, weren't they ahead at halftime in ninety six, No,
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  Speaker 1: they weren't.
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  Speaker 3: The first quarter was fourteen ten. They were down twenty
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  Speaker 3: seven and fourteen at the end of the half. Then
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  Speaker 3: it was twenty seven to twenty one with about a
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  Speaker 3: minute left in the third quarter, and.
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  Speaker 4: They kicked the Demond They kicked it.
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  Speaker 1: Time keep going. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Anything else you want to know.
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  Speaker 1: About that game? Yeah, no, I lift it anyway.
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  Speaker 3: I did so really, I was really disappointed coming home,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just bummed out that they lost.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't like send me into like this deep dark depression.
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  Speaker 3: I've never really been that kind of a sports fan,
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm pretty imbalanced, you know, I have my arguments
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  Speaker 3: and my quirks, but I don't think I'm that kind
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  Speaker 3: of sports fan that it's like really like just ruins
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  Speaker 3: my life that my team that I root for lost
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  Speaker 3: and I'm going to sink into a deep depression for
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  Speaker 3: a month.
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  Speaker 6: I was going to say, oh seven, I had a
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  Speaker 6: party and final whistle. I just took the balloon, I
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  Speaker 6: popped it and I went to my room.
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  Speaker 1: The party the time hung was like a death. It's
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  Speaker 1: just a loss as you can ever have.
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  Speaker 3: And again, I'm not going to tell you how I'm above.
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  Speaker 3: Like in ninety six, go back to that season.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: There was a game that they lost the Shannon Sharp
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  Speaker 3: called the National Guard we kill in the Patriots game.
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  Speaker 1: I remember that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was supposed to go out that night, and
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  Speaker 3: I was so bummed out that I was like an
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  Speaker 3: hour late meeting everybody. Like I was just so like
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  Speaker 3: just distraught with how badly they played.
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  Speaker 1: But like I went out.
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  Speaker 3: I did what I was you know, I just was
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  Speaker 3: not really in a good mood when I went out.
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  Speaker 3: But that was like the day of the game. Like
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  Speaker 3: two days later. It's like, who even remembers You're onto
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  Speaker 3: the next game. Yeah, these some people, it just it
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  Speaker 3: ruins their whole life.
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  Speaker 4: I just think this is a different situation, like the
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  Speaker 4: context different than what I just I don't. I guess
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  Speaker 4: it just is more like I think it needs like
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  Speaker 4: added context, Like I think the reason why a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people are dreading losing this game is because they've
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  Speaker 4: heard all year long that this team is fraudulent because
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  Speaker 4: of the schedule that they played. So what so so
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  Speaker 4: if they lose this game, it proves the point that
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  Speaker 4: they were fraudulent, Like.
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  Speaker 1: But you know that they're not. It doesn't prove anything.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
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  Speaker 4: I just got through.
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  Speaker 1: I just got through telling you all these teams are even.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, you're making sense, Like if you if they lose
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  Speaker 4: on Sunday to the Chargers, then everybody that has been
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  Speaker 4: chirping the Patriots all year about their soft schedule is
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  Speaker 4: going to be even louder. And I don't think that.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's listen to it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, No, that's not the world.
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  Speaker 1: Eventually, Patriots fans are saying that Denver is a fraud.
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  Speaker 1: Right if we beat Denver, does that prove that they
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  Speaker 1: were a fraud? Yes, no, it doesn't do Is it
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  Speaker 1: not a fraud?
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't prove that they're a fraud. But you best
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  Speaker 4: believe we're going to be victory.
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  Speaker 1: Of course we are. So you're a fan, you shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: think that your team was a fraud.
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  Speaker 4: But also, if we played Denver, it's gonna be in
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  Speaker 4: the AFC Championship game. Like being one and done is different.
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  Speaker 3: I blame this, Yeah, yeah, that's what it was.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it maybe.
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  Speaker 4: To make it an age thing. It's a it's a
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  Speaker 4: social media world things, and you know, I I That's
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  Speaker 4: what I think it is, like in a vacuum about
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  Speaker 4: this season, is that all year long, I know what
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  Speaker 4: you saw, schedules have been thrown in our faces. That
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  Speaker 4: this team has played the easiest schedule of all time
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  Speaker 4: and the easiest schedule in the league. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: if they go one and done and they lose to
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  Speaker 4: a Chargers team, which on paper they should probably be,
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  Speaker 4: then all those people are going to have credence that
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  Speaker 4: they were right the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want me to tell you?
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  Speaker 3: Do you want me to tell you what those haters
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  Speaker 3: are going to do?
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  Speaker 1: If the Patriots win the Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 4: That's what happens.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want me to tell you what I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to I'll tell you right because I I this like
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  Speaker 3: kind of like the antagonistic, the troll mentalities. If they
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  Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl, you know what they're going to do.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to say you wouldn't even have made the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: If you had a real schedule. Yeah, you took advantage
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  Speaker 3: of a week schedule and all the big I'm just
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  Speaker 3: telling you what they're going to Okay, but if you
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  Speaker 3: want to argue this crap, that's what they're going to
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  Speaker 3: do because they never relent and say they were wrong.
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  Speaker 1: No one ever does that.
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  Speaker 4: People do that, like to me all the time about
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  Speaker 4: the twenty four Celtics, I do not care. Champions, and
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  Speaker 4: you can tell me that they had an easy path
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  Speaker 4: and I do not care. So if the Patriots win
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  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl and people say, well it's because you
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  Speaker 4: had an easy path, it's not going to bother me
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  Speaker 4: when iota. But it will bother me if people say
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  Speaker 4: they lose to the Charters on Sunday and they say, see,
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  Speaker 4: we're frauds.
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  Speaker 1: Would if the Celtics hadn't gone all the way that year, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it would have bothered you. Yeah that was But would
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  Speaker 1: you have thought that they're right? It doesn't matter, No, no,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Would you would you would believe that
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  Speaker 1: those Celtics detractors were right.
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  Speaker 4: It's different because the Celtics were so much further along.
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  Speaker 1: But like, but you you wouldn't knowing in your brain,
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  Speaker 1: not your heart, your brain that they're wrong.
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  Speaker 4: It was just chirping, okay, but this is the this
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  Speaker 4: is the world we live in. I don't know what
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  Speaker 4: to tell you, Like whether it's his shows or whether
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  Speaker 4: it's social media, like, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: I understand these are the people that.
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  Speaker 4: Are going to be making I'm not taking it that personally.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying it's annoying, like and like that. That
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  Speaker 4: that's it, like Monday. If they lose on Sunday, I
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: will not turn on his station for like a week.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Like this is where I agree with him. That's how
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: I would handle it.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, just don't listen. I just like I can.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Easily not read what's going on on Twitter, right, it
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: doesn't bother me. A lot of people Evan's age and
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: younger than Evan, they can't do that. They're just programs
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: that they have to figure out and they have to
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: fight with somebody and they have to defend the wall.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: And I don't spend any of my time worrying.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: About I'm going to be as disappointed as anyone, but
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I will be too. But God forbid you lose. The
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: future is bright. I'm excited. We've got May.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: We will get with that may just won't be Monday. So, Mike,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: do you remember how I told you to the stages
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: of grief. Mike, you want to go over like what's
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: gonna happen? So let's say let's say like it just
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: it happens. No one wants to acknowledge it, but it happens.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: They lose Sunday night on two on the postgame show,
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: there's going to be a lot of anger, right, We're
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: going to get anger by Tuesday. It's going to be
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: anger with with a sort of a sniff of.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Barkain.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Even know we're so far ahead of schedule by Thursday
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: because we won't do a Wednesday show if we lose,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: it'll be Tuesday and Thursday. By Thursday, it'll be really
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: all about Man, look at this, We got this m
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: VP candidate. We're going to be here every year for
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: ten years, and maybe the second week it's going to be.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Mike, we got a great year behind us, and we're.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how it will be hundred percent agree to
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: shut this crap off, and you can sort of a
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: hundred percent agree the bills are.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: One and done. The Fred Kurshers of the world will
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: be calling up Buffalo over at see I told you
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: the windows closed, And if you do, you think you
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: think Buffalo fans should feel that way.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: There's going to be one team that Josh Allen maid
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: be very worried if they lose on Sunday.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: But if you're the mafia, well, if I were a
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: member of Bill's mafia, I would just always be very
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: worried because of the sure that.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: The Bill's like not the cross sports again, but like
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: the Bills are in the position that twenty four Celtics
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: were in. They had their guy in the prime of
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: his career with an easy path. Like if they lose
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: on Sunday, and.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: The difference is they they're not hosting everybody without all
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: the best players, Okay, but if there's a big difference there,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: they're on the road.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: And but if they're one and done, not an easy path,
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: this is their time to help Paul, Like this is I.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Understand, I understand what you're saying, Like Mahomes isn't there's
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: not there and Jackson's not there.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: But they're not that good. They're lucky to be.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: If they lose on Sunday to Jacksonville, then they're gonna
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: the coach is gonna get fired like the there's.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: So the only way that coach gets fired is if
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: they hire John Hobball, which is in play. We haven't
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: talked about that yet either.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: But he's not.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: He's not the Bills mafia.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't want any part of listening to these national
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: shows say exactly what Evan just said, because Evan's right.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Sean McDermott's job is going to be on the line
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: if they lose to Jacksonville. He's I think he's a
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: thousand percent right. That's all the national talk. The biggest
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: story coming out of this wildcard weekend in my view,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: looking change, no, but looking ahead and coming out of
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: wild right now, it's it's the coaching change is absolutely
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: right coming out of the weekend. I like to predict
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: what the storylines will be if the Bills lose. That's
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: the biggest storyline that's going to come out of this weekend.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Evan's got it nailed. And it's because of They've been
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: knocking on the door, knocking on the door, knocking on
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: the door, and the only thing that's preventing them from
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: getting there generally has been Mahomes into a lesser extent
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Burrow and neither of those two guys are around.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: And Harbor was available and they still.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Can't get out of it.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: And now Harbaugh is available.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: That's going to be the big storyline. And by the way,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: did you guys see Schefter's report today, So this is
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: currently seven job openings now with Baltimore making that announcement yesterday,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Schefter said that according to Harrorball's agent, which you know
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: it's coming from the agent. Take it for what you will,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: he has already had it at least seven teams contact him.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard, I did hear so, and some of
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: them are teams.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: That's at least one who already has a coach, right,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: it sounds like it's my It's probably more than one. Yeah,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: I think Miami is a possibility, could be Buffalo.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's Buffalo yet, but it sounds like
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: the Dolphins and their ownership has had an infatuation with
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: John Harbaugh.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: So to your point, though, and if you were the pagulist,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: would you call contact John Harbaugh and say, hey, listen,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: just don't make a rash decision. You know, right, you're
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: gonna have You're gonna have the pick of the litter.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Obviously you're going to be in high demand. But wait, wait,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: wait at least till Sunday. Yeah, you know, and you know,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: and then you know, if the Bills win, you know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: maybe they call back and say, you know what, we're
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: gonna We're gonna stay the course. But I think Evan's right.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I think there's a chance that make Durmy gets fired.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know how he doesn't like how many more
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: times are we going to do this? But you have
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: the best player in the league, and you can't win
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: playoff games like I.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Just seven and six.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: I understand why harvaugh is out, but it's still just
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: it's the same thing as Rable to me of you
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: have a good coach that you know, maybe wins Coach
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: of the Year, and you get to a certain point
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: where you feel like you just can't move forward.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: It's just run its course. But oh Al Davis used
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to have the role ten years Yeah, after ten years long,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: they lose their ability to get the message out they started.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: There's also and I read some stuff from Jeff Zerbiek,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: who is a longtime Ravens writer. I didn't read, you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: just reading clips online that I saw. I didn't read
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: thoroughly the stories, but indicating that the real problem is
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Lamar with Todd munkin the offensive coordinator in Harbaugh wasn't
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: going to get rid of them, so Baltimore decided, you know,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: we're going to go in another direction. Now we've also
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: heard we heard, like what five or six weeks ago,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: there was what Fred talking about the Al Davis thing
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: where they've really kind of tuned him out.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: In the locker room was eighteen years.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: It had run its course. I think John Harbaugh is
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: a really good coach. I don't think he's done a
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: really good job with some really good teams recently the
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: last couple of years. I think that they have underachieved.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: This year they badly underachieved. Well, it might be time.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: But Lamar got hurt, and I think that's it, and
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: it's totally for situation, but I kind of look at it, but.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I think there were one in four before he got hurt. Yeah,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: something like that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: But you look at the situation too, like what happened
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: in Washington, Like they bought both their coordinators because Jen
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Daniels got hurt. Like is Cliff Kingsbury out of a job?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: If I wonder if Kingsbury is in play for Baltimore, I.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Would think that that's probably what's happening is Kingsbury probably
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: has another job that he thinks he's going to get.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: That's kind of what I was thinking.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: But like I think with the with the Ravens situation,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: it just kind of seems to me like la Mar
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: might be the problem.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Right well, and that's that's my question.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, say a lot of.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Kyler Murray, like like Greg Roman is not good enough
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: and then they and then they fired Greg Roman and
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: now Todd Monkin's not good enough, and so that he
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: wants Todd Monkin fired, and like it just seems to
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: me like it's been difficult to work with.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a wild I don't remember so
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: many high profile coaches being available, you know, ex coaches
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: being available in any one cycle. Yeah.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, if you're Baltimore, do you hit your
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: wagon to Lamar and you bring in a coach that's
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: gonna serve Lamar. I mean that's probably what Kingsbury would
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: be to some element.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Or a high profile coaches besides Harbor.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy, Bill Belichick's not available, has been available for
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: three years, but he's available.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: This is the third years ago, but he's available.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: You just said, I can't remember these kinds of guys
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: being available.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: We was available last year, in the year before.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: No, but you add in Harbaugh, you add in I
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: think it's really just Harbor and Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, if listen, if it's really disrespectful, know what
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I think Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl and has
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: about the same win percentages.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know that table. I don't know if dable,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: but I don't think of him any We'll probably get
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: another opportunity some day.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: I think he'll be a coordinator first.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: But maybe. But but you know, he's out there, like
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I know, I don't know. As Pete Carroll said, he's
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: actually retiring.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: He should, he should, but again, he was available last
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: year and he got a job.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I don't think this is a great
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: year for coaching availability. I don't think there's a lot
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: of Like I don't think there's a Ben Johnson available.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: It was available, Yeah, yeah, I mean Stefanski he's another one.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Harbaugh another what he's like thirty games below five hundred.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Like I think that Tomlin is not tom right now, I'm.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: With if Tomlin is available, then that I would change
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: my mind.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: That's a high profile.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: I'm with, coach is kind of low key staking.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of mid coaches that are that
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: are out of a job.
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: And that's what's so funny to me, though, is we
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: spent the first five minutes talking about it might be
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: just at the Patriots was and now we're talking about
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: two other teams that if they lose, their coaches might
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: get fired.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Right, That's how stream it is.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Disappointed, But I think it's I think this is back
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: to Evans's point about like the twenty four Celtics, like
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: you're in a different spot, and so you know, when
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: you're there for nineteen years, in eighteen years in the
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: case of Tom Win in Harbar, respectively, you're not judged
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: in the same lens, and you shouldn't be.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: It's also just different, Like I think that for especially
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: the current fan base. You know, obviously Drake may is
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: a much better player than Matt Jones. But we just
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: did this in twenty twenty one where they had a
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: good regular season. Now they had a better regular season
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: this year and the quarterback is better. But if they
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: go out on Sunday and they lay an egg against
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: the Chargers, like what, we're right back there, right or we're.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Not ready, So my not ready, my feeling will be different,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: you know, vastly different. I was very consistent just because
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't think that they will go into the playoffs
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: in twenty two. I thought twenty one was a fluke.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I don't think this is a fluke. Now that's just
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: me mentally, doesn't mean I'm right. It might end up
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: being a fluke.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Who knows.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's a fluke, but I think I
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: think that there's there's all those elements right of like
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: the proof of concept of winning a playoff game, of like,
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: you know, really accomplishing something this year of you know,
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: not just winning the division but also winning a playoff
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: game really puts your stamp on it. Like this is
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: it's not a no fluke.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: It's not a fluke for Denver, it's not a fluke
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: for Jackson with the first year coach.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: It's not fourteen wins might be none of these still
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: in a playoff team last year.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: None of these teams are that in it with the
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: exception of Pittsburgh. Perhaps are here because of a fluke Carolina,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: but no, I get your point.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah literally had a field goal mess yeah FLI key, Yeah.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: But I agree with Fred. I think the six teams
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: are pretty even, and I can make an argument it's
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: going to be interesting to see how it goes, you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: when it goes forward, because I do think strongly that Baltimore,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Kansas City, maybe if they can figure out how to
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: handle one off season for a change, Cincinnati, these teams
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: are going to be heard from, and you know, I
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: think there are good teams that have I might even
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: slide Indianapolis into this.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Conversation absolutely if they get a quarterback.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: There are some good teams that are in the playoffs
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: right now that.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Might not be back. I mean Jason Ohio historically that's
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the next year Jason for OHIOSA is Fred, why are
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you trying to rationalize fandom, which is inherently irrational. Fans
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: think and do wild stuff for their teams. I agree,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: but I would hope our fandom appreciates what we've got
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and what the future could be. With what we've got.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: We will get there, Yes, won't be Monday.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: That's what I said, this isn't the end of the road.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: It's like, if we don't win now, we never will,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: you know, Like.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: No, I'm saying that, you know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's going to take a while.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: But it's gonna take him in.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Like then we'll get to NFL Honors and hopefully Drake
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: may is the m v P. And then that make
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: you feel a little bit better, And.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: That makes Mike upset, and I kind of agree with him.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Mike is dreading if the worst case scenario happens and
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: they lose this game.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: Three weeks of MVY three weeks, so if Stafford lost
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: this weekend in the division round.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: So you know, obviously I probably put straight back in
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: front of.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: You like they started. They voted for MVP on Monday.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: But we're gonna keep talking.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: It's going to keep.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Getting calls by we made our beach.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: It's over. Yeah, good job campaigning, everybody. It's done. I
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: know they can't vote anymore.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: I know we've talked about this stuff in the past,
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: and I remember you talking about no one was throwing
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: in ninety six, the fact that Denver lost in the
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: face of people and even watching doing my eighty five
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: stuff of like the excitement of like they thought they
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: were going to beat the Bears, and.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: You know, I just think it's it's two things.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: To me.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: It's the rise of social media now where you have
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: direct contact with another team's fans.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: You didn't used to have that, Like, how would you
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: get into it? You didn't care.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: The only thing that mattered was, you know, when the
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: Boston Globe, the Boston Harrold wrote a story and then
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: you know that might ruffle some feathers, right, but it's
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: that and then it's part of the interruption.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: This is how sports are covered now.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: Every angle, you know, win, lose, what's the good, what's
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: the bad?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Like that's really I'm not that as.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Positive like the ninety six one, and I might be
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: getting my years off by a year, I want to say.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: You know, so you're right. I knew that Denver was
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: better than the Patriots in ninety six, but I was
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: just excited that they lost. And I was really I
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: remember strongly rooting for Jacksonville watching that game. It's like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: oh my god, they have a chance that one win
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: and they were really you know, so you got a
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: chance to play Jacksonville for the AFC Championship. Game ninety seven.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I think that they lost to Denver in Denver ninety
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: seven and ninety eight, and they were reasonably competitive games,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: so you could kind of see they're not that far away.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: But you looked at it and you're like, that really
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: was a great opportunity that they had in ninety six
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: to go to the Super Bowl, and fortunately for them,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: they did. Now, I think green Bay was a little
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: better and they beat them, you know, but I that
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: was unlike the Chicago game. The green Bay game was winnable.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: The Chicago game was not winnable.
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: One other funny thing that stood out to me is
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: I found some footage of Eddie Anelman down at the
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: at the Super Bowl JO and he was like doing
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: a little show and he was telling Patriot fans to
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: call in and give these Miami people crap, you know.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: So he's like and I feel like now the dichotomy
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: has kind of changed because I feel like the biggest
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: rival of Paul shows are the Patriots super fans who
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: don't care, you know, they just were the best.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: We're back.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: Everyone hates us defend the way, you know, that's their nemesis.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: But back then it was almost like we're trying to
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: harness that strength because we're gonna win.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: The Super Bowl and everybody's on board, and so super
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: fans you're talking about if we lose, we're still bad,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: We're still back. This wasn't a fluke.
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: It's just different and I and I honestly think that
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: it's better now. It's better because it's better because Evan.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Can go back and forth with Bronco fans. It's you're
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: not in your own little bubble. You know me, but
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: you know, oh, but would you rather have you work
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: for a team? And you can't get into it, but
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you know if you didn't work for us, if you
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: were still with Clinics or whatever, you'd be right back
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: at put off the old thumbs last.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Weekend the media, I don't go out with the fans.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Me deciding that I am now going to tweet and
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: then push away from the phone is one of the
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: better decisions I've ever made for my health and well
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: being playing.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I don't tweet a lot for that reason.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: But like I do tweet a lot, but I don't
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: reply anymore.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: My feeling is if you're not if you don't want
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: people to interact with you, don't tweet that like you're
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: just making proclamations, then you're not using it's not social media,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: it is because so like, if you're not and listen,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I don't blame you. If you don't want to get
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: into it, then stay off of it. Stay off of it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: I just it just doesn't mean no good to reply.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: So I for multiple reasons, but I mean you should
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: read some of the replies to my tweets. Like during games, Oh,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: I can only.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Imagine I get criticized the game so lit things are bad.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: You know, they're on me for being a homer.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Well, it's not even criticism towards me, it's it's more
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: criticism towards what's happening in the game. And it will
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: be like the first quarter and the defense gives up
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: a scoring drive and it's fraud. It's like, I can't
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: stop anybody. It just you can't reply. You can't. Once
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: you start replying, you're poking the hornet's nest, and it just.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: All right off for this game, Yeah, let's get this game.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: What are you most confident in? From the Patriots side,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I was sort of thinking about confidence and concerns. What
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: are you most confident in? I should have probably maybe
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: brought this up pre show maybe a little show.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's a tough question, Paul.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: That's why I'm taking a second to think about it,
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: because i'd love to say that I am one hundred
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: percent sure that the Patriots are going to move the ball,
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: but I think the Chargers be really challenging.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be it's going to be
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: most confident if it's to remove the ball, I think.
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, but how and and does the run game
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: continue to carry over and produce?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Like they have the four guys that I'm most confident in,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: it's Drake May, I agree with the two running backs,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: and it's Digs. Those four guys, I'm pretty sure we're
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: going to produce. I'm pretty I'm pretty sure those four
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: people will produce.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure about the two running backs, but I
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: have a lot of faith in May in the passing game,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: regardless of who he's throwing it too. He's done it
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: all year with different guys, so I don't know who
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: the guy is going to be. You know, maybe it's
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Digs that's probably the most likely. But yeah, I have
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I have faith in in May.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: But if you have faith in May, he has to
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: throw it to somebody. So who do you have faith
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: in that's gonna be on the and the guy who
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: can go.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Like this Hunter Hunter Henry and Stefan Diggs. I have
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of faith in.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to try to take those two
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: guys away. So so I think that that's going to
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: be the game within the game is going to be
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: just you know, Kai Shaan Boodie, Kyle Williams, you know,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: the running backs in the passing game against some of
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: these secondary players for getting someone No, I'm not some
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: of the some of these Tomorrow Douglas, some of these
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: secondary players, uh for the Chargers, you know, Cam Hart,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Benjamin Saint ju just their safeties like are you know
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: those are It's not I don't know if if Jesse
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Minter is gonna let Stefan Diggs beat him, so like
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: it's probably gonna have to be. They're gonna clamp down
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: on the middle of the field with Diggs and Henry
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: and the matchups that are going to decide the game
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: might be on the outside.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Now, forgive me, I didn't read the four thousand word
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: opus yet you can't.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Can't.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: It'll be available to everybody.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow what specifically with jesse Minter, he's good, good co
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Do you think they're gonna be things that maybe catch
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels and Drake May off guard or do they
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: just do they do extremely well?
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: I think it's the second one. So they play a
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: lot of zone. They played like eighty one percent of
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: their snaps in zone. They play a lot of quarters specifically,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: which we can get into. But I think the biggest
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: thing that I see with them this happened against Houston.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: You know, first half against Houston, Stroud completes those two
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: bombs for touchdowns to the two Iowa State kids, and
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: then Mint just started blitzing the crap out of them
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: in the second half. And it seems like the curveball
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: or like the change up for jesse Minner is pressure.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Like if he starts to see that the quarterback is
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: just sitting back there and the you know, zones are
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: not holding up, then he's going to start bringing pressure.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: So if I was the Patriots, that would be what
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: I would be working all week on. Like, I have
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: a lot of confidence in Drake May finding open receivers
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: against zone coverage. He's been doing it all year. As
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Paul said, what happens when they start getting a little
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: bit crazy and they start dialing pressure up and they
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: have to figure out answers to zone pressures or cover
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: zero or whatever the case may be. You have those
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: types of things. So if I was Josh McDaniels, like
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: that would be what's keeping me up at night. Is
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: like what happens when the game sort of pivots right,
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Like he's not gonna sit in quarters the entire game
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: because it's going to be too easy for McDaniels in may.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: So at some point he's going to flip a switch
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: and say, we're going to start bringing the heat. And
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: at that point, do you have the answers to the
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: pressure that they bring?
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Do you agree to That's like from when you when
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: you watch the third I.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: Only watch the third mediums pot. I think, no, it
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: sounds I mean yeah, no, I mean obviously I trust
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: Evan's coverage, and yeah, I mean that.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: The zone stuff.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: I mean I just went through, you know, stacking up
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: all the different how they rank up, and I mean
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: everything he's saying stacks up with with what the next
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: gen stats, and yeah, I just it, Like I like
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: what Gary Blount said, Yes, Blunt what he said yesterday,
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: just whatever you're expecting it to be, it's going to
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: be something totally different. And I think that that could
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: be a case. And you know, to Evan's point, we've
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: seen times this year where Patriots offense looks one way
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, it looks another way
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: for a while. No, that happens a lot in the playoffs,
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: and it's does it stagnate it first and they figure
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: it out or do they come out guns blazing and
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: then the adjustment kind of gets them. Hopefully they can
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: stay ahead of that. And I just think the run game,
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: you know, like that's to me that if if they
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: can lean on that and they can be successful with that,
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: I think that'll.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Worry about that then too. Hither run game.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Worries me against this team, particularly because they got big
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: dudes up front, and Derwin James is a really good
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: run player as well, and he's been playing a lot
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: in the slot and in the box for them, kind
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: of like basically like a linebacker. So like, I don't
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: know if you can run the ball against this front, Well,
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: it's a.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Bunch of big nights. I lean on the performance of
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the last and in the last quarter of our run
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: game in giving that you know your your guy mintor
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: something to think about there, and okay, you know stack
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the box all right. I think Josh McDaniel and May
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: will recognize that, and I think we have an answer
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: for that. We're balance enough to be able to answer
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: to that. And so that's why I have faith in
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: May and confidence in May in the offense in general
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: to be able to produce this game. I agree.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I think that's what yeah, most confident.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: To me, that's the way you win this game, Like,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: you got to get ahead, score score because they can't score.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: So I would put points on the board as quickly
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: as you possibly can and make them play from behind
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: and make that offensive line pass protect forty forty five
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: times in Sunday's game, and I think you're going to
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: be in good shape. But you know, they they stop
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: to run really well. They've been a little bit leaky
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: on the big plays lately, but they're pretty good at
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: stopping big plays through the air. So it's just that's
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: the way that they kind of play.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: What's the thing that wearries you the most, Herbert.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say what worries me the most is
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: that the Patriots won't have enough pass rush to really
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: exploit their offense.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: They don't get the lead, and the Chargers can throw
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: as they want to, and they have a diverse passing
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: game that I think will give the Patriots secondary and
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: then I can handle.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: And then I worry that they'll get too aggressive on
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: defense and they'll get burned.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: They'll have to start blitzing and trying to figure out
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: a way to produce some pressure.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: You know, that would be my biggest concern is that
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Herbert gets hot. And they have we talked about yesterday,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: three or four guys. They're more than comfortable. You know,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: that guy can be the volume guy today. That guy
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: can be the big play guy today.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: They have to. It's hard to stop those Christian Barmore
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: have to dominate. They have to wreck the game.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: So is the thing that's held the Charges from being
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: an explosive offense. Back to the offensive line.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: It's horrid, yeah, and I saw something today. It's like
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: historically horrid.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: And it's it's not just like they have some of
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: the guys.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Their lines worse than our schedule their line last year here.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my rankings, okay, so fifty to nothing and Herbert
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: was sacked fifty four times. You know, everybody is focused
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: on Alton Slater and those guys. I mean, first of all,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: they are two really good tackles that they lost, which
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: obviously chips away at your depth. But they were missing
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: guards all year too, Like Mikai Beckton missed the chunk
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: of the season in the middle, hasn't been as good
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: when he was out there. The BC kid Zion Johnson
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: sort of been a little inconsistent. He They've been without
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: a lot of their personnel on the line for large
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: chunks of the year. I think that they've kind of
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: settled it a little bit, like the backups that are
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: settled into the tackle spots. I wish I had their
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: game the game, No, but I wish I had their
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: game to game. I feel like those guys is at
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Sailure and Pimpkins. They've been in there, I think the
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: last few weeks, and it's kind of stabilized a little bit.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: You know, it's not going to be guys, but it's
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: not going to be ideal for them no matter what.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: But I think Herbert is sort of after being under
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: siege for you know, the middle of the season, I
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: think he sort of understands a little bit. Okay, this
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: is what it's going to be. I'm working around it. Yeah,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: and maybe it'll be too much for him and he
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: won't be able to do it in the playoffs, and
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: then the Herbert haters will tell you he's not going
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: to win in the playoffs.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: He hasn't been particularly good against pressure this year.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just and the Patriots haven't been good at
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: getting pressure.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: So that's the that's the labor of average I would say,
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, I would say their pass us is average pressure. Yeah,
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: pressure eight, but uh, you know backup having I mean
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: sixty seven point one QB rating under pressure one O
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: nine point eight with no pressure for yeah.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they think they had leads a lot,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: so that helped.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: And I think that's when the Patriots get pressure, like
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter Sunday when they were killing Zach Wilson, right.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Like they play they need to like you know, the
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Chargers want want to shrink the game, they want to
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: choke you out. They have a good defense. Number one
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: drive time, They're not going to give up a lot
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: of points. That's how they feel. At least they are
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: second in the league in time of possession. Like, so
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: they want to choke out the game. And if I'm
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: the Patriots, you want to do the opposite. You want
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: to turn this thing and to attract me, Like you
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: want to put points on the board, and you want
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: to make Herbert drop back as many times as you
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: possibly can. If he turns into the grinded out rock
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: fight type of game, then that gives a Chargers punters chance.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Short possession game where you know, you get in the
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: ball six or seven times instead of eight or nine. Right, Yeah,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: it's advantage they want to do. They want to play
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: they do all year.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're very good on third down offensively, Uh,
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: they're very good at moving chains and staying on the
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: field and all that kind of stuff. So you just
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: that's the type of game that they want to play.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: And I think the Patriots have the ability because of
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: how explosive their offense is, they have the ability to
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: play the other way. And I think you need to
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: kind of come in and try to boat raise them.
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: That's just who's going to make the place on defense.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: And that's you know, also four and fourth in place
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: per drive. I mean, so they're just and we've seen
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: the Patriots defense when they're at their worst over the
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: last few weeks of just nobody can make a play,
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: you know. I mean teams are just six yards four yards,
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: eight yards four yards, you know, right down the field.
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: That's what scares me is allowing them to just put
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: those drives and it's going to have can't get it.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: They'll probably be there should be a couple of drive.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: That are seven plays and and you got to make
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: a red zone stop. And you know, there's just there's
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: these little flaws that you can point out on this
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: Patriots team that you just you wonder when you get
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: in to these playoff games, what's gonna matter and what's
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: not going to matter. Does the red zone defense matter?
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: Do they get some red zone stops? Because now you
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: do it in the playoffs. You can say they were
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: thirty second all year long, but you get two stops
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: and that's the difference in the game.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Then this isn't the old days where you get to
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: buy your first game.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Well, and Mike's point is really valid to you know,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: like all of these kinds of things playoff games, you're
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: expecting to have a tight game and those are the
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: little things that decide the games. Can you make the
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: four point play. Can you get a stop in the
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: red zone and the other team doesn't you you are
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: able to convert in the redstone. That's that's how the
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: separation happens. You know, you went forward on fourth down
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: twice and you got one. They went forward and fourth
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: down twice and you stopped them both times. You know
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: those that's the different in the game. Steal a possession here, yep.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: You know it doesn't have to be like, well, you
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: gotta win the turnover battle, no poop. Yeah, you know,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: like obviously you want to win the turnover battle. But
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: those key plays in every game has I don't know,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: eight or ten of them? Do you win more than
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: you lose? You get the third and one? Do you
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: stop their third and one's? And that's why I brought
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: that up.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Now I want to play that kind of team.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I don't want to play that kind of game either,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: But that's what these games generally come down to.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: And that's and that's why I want you for third
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: mediums because I feel.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Like the third and mediums are where a lot of games,
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: those are the.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Margins seven and I had no interest in watching the
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: third medium, So you picked us up in that regard.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: I just watch all the third down. I don't stereotype
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: against the specific kind of third down. I just I
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: think with this Chargers team, they're really well coached, They're
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: really good situationally, like third down, third and shorts, things
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: like that. I would not want to play that kind
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: of game with them. I would want to play a
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: game where our offense is healthier and is better than yours,
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: and we're just gonna hang points on the board that
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: you can't keep up with. Yeah, because if you start
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: to get into like oh it's you know, we got
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: to convert this fourth down or we got to get
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: this red zone stop or whatever, like that's their game,
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Like that is how they beat teams. So I just
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: think that this is one of those games where I
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: think the Patriots are the better team.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: So, like I always, how big a margin.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: I think they're I don't know if it's a huge margin,
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: but I think they're a better team.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I don't mean points. I mean just like, you know,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: our team is better than you buy a lot or
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: a little or.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: You know enough that I think that if the Patriots
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: don't shoot themselves in the foot, they could win this game.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Came Okay, so if you play clean football, you win.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: I think that if they play clean football and play
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: to the level that we've seen them play all year,
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: that this could be kind of an easy win.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: But you know, easy is the wrong word, Like that
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: games that they've won, they've had lapses, you know, second
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: quarter or whatever. Can you afford to have a as
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: in this game? Or do you have to play full
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: sixty minutes?
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: I think you can afford it.
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: It's the playoff team. I think they're just guaranteed to justin.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: Herbert's going to put a couple drives together and you
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: just have to be ready to accept that. I mean,
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: this is a good team. This is the playoffs.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: This is I mean. And the thing that we almost
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: have to do and we forget to do is look
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: at it from the Chargers side, like what are they
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: worried about? Like like can they afford to have a lapse?
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: I think what I would worry about if I was
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: the Chargers, and what I'd be also feeling good about.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: If I start with the feeling good, I'd feel good
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: about the fact that you're not facing a dominant pass rush,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: so like you can.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: It was Houston or you know what I mean, and
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: that's the time.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: So you could realistically say, yeah, like Milton Williams and
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: Barmore are nice on the inside, but we we don't
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: feel like we're going to be overwhelmed on the line
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: of scrimmage offensively. I think the concern that I would
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: have if I was a Charger fan is that May
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: and McDaniels have just continuedly shredded zone. And if you're
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: gonna sit in zone against the Patriots, I think you're
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: gonna have trouble stopping them. So if you're the Chargers,
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: like can you pivot to more man to man? Can
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: you pivot to something else? They're not really built to
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: do that, so like where where does that rubber meet
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: the road? Like are they able to come up with
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: something else that's a change up? But maybe the Patriots
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: aren't as expecting as much to pivot to if Drake
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: May goes touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, because you're sitting in quarters
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: and he's just okay coming in.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Do we have Rabel today?
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Ye? Okay, right real quick?
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, reminder Stevenson AFC Offensive Player of.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: The Week, Oh we go. So I think that's like
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: multiple times we've got that award right's six times this
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: season of seventeen or eighteen weeks. Yeah, and six different
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: players too.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: The reasons why I have a lot of confidence that
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Patriots moved the ball on Sunday night.
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we went back before catch twenty two.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Barth was hanging out.
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: We were trying to figure out how many times they
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: they've had multiple guys win this award. And I think
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: this is at least as far as we could see
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: a team record. That's six different thirty.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Cent of the season the Patriots have had that award.
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's three times on Session's amazing, Chase on
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: on defense and May yeah, so yeah, and then and
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: now steven since the sixth yeah, O three, they had
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: a bunch a bunch of special teamers like Bethel Johnson
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: and uh I think the other one was oh seven,
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: but it was like Brady had like four of them.
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: So you know, that's all right. Let's get some phone
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: calls in here.
• 48:22
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I know people are waiting to get involved, So let's
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: start with Danny and Daytona. What's up, Danny?
• 48:31
  Speaker 9: Hey, can you guys?
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, we can all right?
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Uh calling back.
• 48:36
  Speaker 9: I tried to call it, so I just wanted to
• 48:38
  Speaker 9: time in the first thing I wanted to say was
• 48:41
  Speaker 9: it was a good game. You know, Miami just moved
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: past that. Uh. I am tired of the whole Drake
• 48:46
  Speaker 9: Drake made nickname. So let's move past that.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's your show, Danny, you tell us what to do.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: I agree, Danny here spot on.
• 48:54
  Speaker 9: Uh So let's move past that. Like said, uh to
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: Evansborn I called, you know, spoken early or twenty two.
• 49:02
  Speaker 10: I do.
• 49:03
  Speaker 9: There's well two things. Actually. The first thing is I
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: think the Pop Douglas should be a big factor in
• 49:09
  Speaker 9: this game. I was watching this kind on CBS. He's
• 49:12
  Speaker 9: talked about with Matt Ryan that they should have used
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: Pop Douglas and and I guess step On too to
• 49:20
  Speaker 9: kind of like stretch the field horizontally, just because the
• 49:24
  Speaker 9: Chargers have a really good safety and corner group. So
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: if we're able to stress the field, which Josh likes
• 49:31
  Speaker 9: to do, those those bubble screens and those crops, you know,
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: those slants and outs and whatnot, and ends, if we
• 49:38
  Speaker 9: can use pop Douglas and maybe a couple other good
• 49:41
  Speaker 9: receivers a little smaller shifty, maybe y'all Paull favorite e
• 49:44
  Speaker 9: f and Chism throw them in there, Uh, kind of
• 49:47
  Speaker 9: having some confusion maybe blocking or whatever. Then some designs
• 49:51
  Speaker 9: off of that. I think that'll kind of kind of
• 49:55
  Speaker 9: throw off the Chargers because they're you know, if we
• 49:57
  Speaker 9: showed some looks like we're trying to target downfield, but
• 50:00
  Speaker 9: we're really just throwing in the middle, you know, it
• 50:02
  Speaker 9: might get set him up. So I think that's one thing.
• 50:05
  Speaker 9: The other day, when the time in is on the
• 50:08
  Speaker 9: the coaching carousals, are you guys surprised to see that
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: Detroit blew out their staff, Washington blew out their staff, Dallas,
• 50:17
  Speaker 9: I'm not surprised. Ebra Flus. I don't see how he
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: could find himself another job. He should have been fired
• 50:22
  Speaker 9: a long time ago. And then the other thing, uh.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Show.
• 50:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Arizona was talking about or somebody mentioned on the
• 50:34
  Speaker 9: broadcast about bringing Josh McDaniels there, but I don't see
• 50:37
  Speaker 9: that happening. I did talk about Devin earlier, about Thomas Brown,
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: Thomas Brown saying that they were gonna interview him there
• 50:45
  Speaker 9: with Arizona, and then uh, and then Brady. The last
• 50:48
  Speaker 9: thing with the with the Raiders. Didn't know the Raiders
• 50:53
  Speaker 9: are paying fire coaches fifty five millions that's even including
• 50:58
  Speaker 9: Josh McDaniels.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: And that's a lot of Pizza Hut commercials.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like the owners have a lot of money.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Thanks Danny, appreciate the call.
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: I don't think this will be a big pop. Douglas
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: well every thinking of his own thing. I mean, this
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: have his own team, is this you know idea?
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't like this is not like I
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: didn't like. You can take all the bubble screens and
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: send them someplace else this week, like this is you
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: want to get down the field.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: I'd like to see Booty, you know, get back to
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: the way it was earlier in the season and catch
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: a couple of bombs.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, how often in the playoffs do guys emerge
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: and do things that they didn't do in the regular season.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: That's good question.
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: My mind goes right to, like Malcolm Mitchell is a
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: guy that maybe stuffed up and maybe exceeded in production.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: Guy on the Seahawks and Super Bowl forty nine that
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: was freaking yeah, yeah, yeah, it was god that.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: I don't think that happens all that often. But I
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: could see Douglas. I mean, Douglas has been a part
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: of the offense periodically.
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: Throughout the Yeah, yeah, he pops up Douglas.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: But I don'tdn't think like to Fred's point, I don't
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: think it's going to be an eight for one hundred
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: and twenty for Douglas. It might be three, right, you know,
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: and you say, wow, Pop Dogg has had a really
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: good game today, Like I could see that, But he's
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: done that periodically throughout the scene.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: If they play like Houston or Denver, then Pop Douglas
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: will have have a have his day. I think when
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: teams that play more man to man, uh this this
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: team plays a lot of that, like Exotic Zone, so
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: like it's going to be reading it out, it's going
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: to be knowing where the soft spots are.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: You know, he wouldn't, I agree with you, And he's
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: like he wouldn't see Lass or Stingley, right, And then
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: if they're playing man, yeah, he's going to get like
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: the third corner.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: They usually play, the fourth, they usually play the safety.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Petra right, the always optimistic Christian from LA what's up?
• 52:46
  Speaker 11: Hey you guys, Hey, you guys, Hey, you guys. You
• 52:49
  Speaker 11: know what I gotta say. I want to ask if
• 52:52
  Speaker 11: anybody out there feels the way I feel and and
• 52:55
  Speaker 11: that's like Peter fran that was there, well, the Patriots
• 53:00
  Speaker 11: that was there, like as the dynasty came together right
• 53:04
  Speaker 11: in the heyday of the dynasty, that took it personally,
• 53:06
  Speaker 11: that made it part of my personality. I was a
• 53:08
  Speaker 11: winner because the Pats were winners, right, and then to
• 53:11
  Speaker 11: see it all collapse. But now to see a spark, right,
• 53:16
  Speaker 11: like a real spark. And it's not like we have
• 53:18
  Speaker 11: the second year quarterback that's kind of coming along and
• 53:21
  Speaker 11: the team's colassic, but this kid is like amazing, right,
• 53:25
  Speaker 11: like like really amazing, and it makes it, it makes
• 53:28
  Speaker 11: them different because it makes it feel like we actually
• 53:30
  Speaker 11: have a kind of chance to be that good at
• 53:33
  Speaker 11: some point again. And so with that like waving but
• 53:36
  Speaker 11: falling up to my check, I'm feeling like a thirty
• 53:39
  Speaker 11: eight ten victory. And then onto this colossal matchup gets
• 53:42
  Speaker 11: Buffalo in the AFC Championship game.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: But if.
• 53:51
  Speaker 11: If the team's like journey ends of this week, we
• 53:54
  Speaker 11: still win. We won the season, We won the proverbial
• 53:58
  Speaker 11: war of tandis organization can rebuild and then we win
• 54:01
  Speaker 11: the future. And so that makes me feel like like
• 54:04
  Speaker 11: we are witnessed again, like the heyday, I'm doing thirty eight.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Pens because one visit to the picklebar and he's ready
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: to go.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: I would just you know, the caller before, all right, Christian,
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: but the caller before I mentioned some of the coaching changes,
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: coordinator levels and stuff like that, Like Washington was just
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: in the NFC Championship game.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Last year and now they and what good did it?
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Tom fired both.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: Their coordinators or cod Dude, if Detroit was the same spot,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: shame their offensive.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: But if we do, if we if we make a
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: run next year, get during the year. Yeah, yeah, I
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm just saying Matt was like one year in Dallas,
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Like it's like he should have been gone a long
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: time ago. Like he's just like it was his show.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: You know, we're just like living it. But I know
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: he was talking.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: About the NFL is a year to year thing happens
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: all the time. Twenty twenty six could be a very
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: different thing.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Could be and it probably will be better or worse.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Brad's in Ohio. What's up, Brad? How you gots doing doing?
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: All right? Brad?
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 55:11
  Speaker 9: I agree with a whole few about jesse Mentor.
• 55:15
  Speaker 11: I did watch him in Michigan when he's the defensive
• 55:22
  Speaker 11: have dried. Yeah, there's there's gonna be.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Time pressure and there's times you.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Gotta talking to the phone. I think he has a back.
• 55:38
  Speaker 11: They're going to.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, we're losing your Sorry about that.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: But I do think I understand and and Evan was
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: nodding to you know, Minter is a guy who has
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: a clue. You know, he did some NFL type stuff
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: at Michigan with Harbaugh. Those guys have been together. There's
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: the reason why Jesse Mintter is one of the guys
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: that's being talked about to fill one of these seven openings.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: He's had a really, really good couple of years with
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: the Chardgers.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wouldn't be surprised that Baltimore gives him a real
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: good looks.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: He was there. He was there, Brad.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: I knew Brad's a Michigan guy, so I should haven't
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: seen that one. He must have gone to the machine.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: We have some feedback on the fan mentality. A bunch
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: of emails Spencer Wrights and Patrios fans are preparing to
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: lose because we went four and thirteen back to back seasons.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: These same fans, of course want us to win the
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Well, I mean, maybe they're preparing to lose.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: But I'm what I'm saying is, because you went four
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: and thirteen last year. See, you should be appreciative of
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: what's going on here and if they don't go all
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: the way, Okay.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: You always should look at a game and just say
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: you should never look at it and say there's no
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: way we can win this game or there's no way
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: we can lose this game. I mean, you're in the playoff.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: R I mean, this is not like Tom Brady's heyday
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: when you're having double buys against Tim Tebow. No, Like,
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: you know, like Christian made the comment thirty eight to ten,
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: and like, I'm not ruling that out. I think the
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Patriots could get on a roll and continue. I think
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: they're playing really well. But he said, tell me why not? Well,
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: why not? You've played one team this year that's as
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: good as the Chargers. You beat them twenty three to twenty,
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: and you lost to them thirty five to thirty one.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: You haven't played any other team that's anywhere near as
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: good as this one.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that at the time.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: No, but Baltimore is closed.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: No now, Yeah, you could say that, but they're not
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: even here, Like they didn't even win more games than
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: they lost. Now, you could make an argument because of
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: personnel and the injury, not right.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: Here because of a forty two yard field goal.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: No, okay, but they would be here and they would
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: be out in a game like because they would be
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: nine and eight instead of eight and nine. I don't
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: think they're as good as the Chargers now heading into
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: the season. Would I say that Ravens roster was better
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: than the Chargers by a lot? Yes, answer would have
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: been yes. But they didn't have that team all year.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: But the Ravens are healthier now than the Charger.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, not not Sunday night, they weren't. The
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: whole secondary was out and that's when Aaron Rodgers turned
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: into Aaron Rudge.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: Kyle Hamilton got hurt during that.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: So did Nate Wiggins, and so did the Woozy, a
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: guy who ended up falling down. He came back in
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: the game and fell down on the game winning touchdown.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Woozy, it was a little loozy. Oh go ahead.
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, Fred, should we should we
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: talk about Friday Night?
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: Should we?
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Up?
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Hype that job.
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: Du All Access Live Patriots Playoff Kickoff Kickoff Party.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Sorry they get that right.
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: All Access Live Patriots Playoff Kickoff Party here uh ptury
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: Atcheleette Stadium, ending with a live taping of All Access.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I won't be on it this week. Uh wow, you
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: got you got big time.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: They SPT you.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Out, but we'n start will be on it now. Come
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: on down six pm Friday.
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: Uh starts here down right outside the right outside the stadium.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: They'll be in the plaza.
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: They'll have photo ops, a DJ, a drum line, giveaways,
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: including to tickets to Sunday's game. So I hope everybody
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: come down. Vince Wilfork and other Patriots alumni will be appearing.
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: So that's uh yeah, six to eight here at Gillette Stadium,
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: and they're gonna cap it off with the All Access.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Part of our own promotions. It's amazing. So it's amazing.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Come down. It starts at six, So this party starts
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: at six out outside and then the All Access show
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: starts at seven. You can either be in the plaza
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: where the main stage is, or up at the Harp,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: the bar here at Patriot Place that overlooks the plaza.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: They'll be showing everything in there on the monitors as well.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Uh so either one and then you know, stay at
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: the harp and watch college football that night. So yes,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: so it's a big night. Come on down six o'clock.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: It's all free.
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: I told Paul, I'm gonna calm. I think we're gonna
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: bring my family. We're gonna have dinner here at Patriot Place,
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: and then we're gonna walk buy and then we're gonna.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Heckle do so thing we usually.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Got to dinner Friday night.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: And why we come out of the sushi place?
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: Maybe maybe maybe that was on the list. Actually we
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: were discussing it last night. Nothing against we love you know,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: we love some saga hibachi up here, but that barbecue
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: has been a.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Minute we went there. So yeah, bbn NH writes in first,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Fred's all right to start. Every show makes my day.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: It never changes, and it's always great. Speaking of never changing.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Regarding the debate amongst Fred, Paul, and Evan about how
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: it will feel, why isn't deuced part of it. It's
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: about how it will feel if the Patriots lose. Paul
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: and Fred simply speak with the rationality of older folks
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: who don't care what anyone thinks or says about them.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: They know what passes their eye tests, and that's that.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Evan is entangled in the web of the populace and
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to see the opinions of silly people who
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: negate his ball knowing anyway, Go Patriots, Let's see DMX
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: have another three hundred yard game and get another touchdown
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: the Chisholm. I guess it's Drake may Drake may X.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: I agree with with him, though it's a it's my
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: LEAs favorite part of sports fandom at the moment is
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: the Twitter machine. It is the noise that comes from it.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: For some people, it's easier to not than others. Like
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: I've I've started to get there at my old age
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: of thirty three. I'm starting to get to the point
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: where I don't give a crap of what's going on
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: in my phone. But that's not the norm. I would
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: say the norm sports fan right now is you know,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: chirping other fan bases and whatever. Like it's just the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: NonStop cesspool.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: I like that email Yeah yeah, Tony and potton Uk
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: on the seat, we told you you're a fraud. And
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: those saying they don't want an easier schedule of that
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: was given to that. I don't know what that means,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: but as you've all said, we've had this schedule because
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: we have been more than useless the previous two seasons.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: The NFL's creates the schedules in this way to create
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: interest in even the playing field. In that way, it's
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: been a success, and the Patriots were able to recruit
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: well and take advantage of that schedule. However, without the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: great work from the recruitment and coaching staff, we would
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: never have been in a position to take advantage of
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: the schedule. I'm with Fred and Paul, but I'm also
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: a similar age. Just turn that social crap off if
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: we lose and forget about it.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: Well, and I would say, if it really bothers you, yeah,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Like I know, I'm saying.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: You're trying to explain the mentality of the people. That
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: Fred brought up is that this is the way that
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: this is the climate now, is that we have to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: listen to Cam Newton on TV and then you have
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: to listen to the people on your phone and all
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: these people are just yelling at you telling you how
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: easy the schedule is.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: I guess I picked in that, but I would never
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: look at Cam Newton and take that seriously for a second.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: No one's taking it seriously.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: But you know, I mean I would look at, you know,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: the the haters that are going to throw the schedule,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: and I'd be like, yeah, yeah, well, you know, I
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: don't think that they played a very good schedule either,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: so I can sort of agree with that. Now, again,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: those guys are going to just claim you wouldn't have
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: been in the playoffs in the first place even if
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: they win. So you can't beat those guys. I don't know,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: because those are just loud mouths. It's just because a
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: lot of teams that have really really bad schedules have won.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it won't be it won't be nearly as
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: loud in those.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 7: Oh it won't.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: No, it won't be as loud.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: I've seen a couple of historical things of like a
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: lot of Super Bowl champions, Like I mean, I think the.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Rams they benefit from very bad like the benefit from
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: very bad kind part of the formula, And I mean
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: a light's getting shown on it this week.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: But I think it's a bigger question of do you
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: think it serves the team better to yeah, maybe they
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: don't play the iron during the regular season, and they
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: feast and they get confident, and they beat up on
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: some teams. But you know, a team that maybe has
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: had ups and downs and battles and had to fight
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: through some injuries and they sneak into the playoffs, but
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: they've been tested a little bit.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: And I'm not saying, you know, this will be another
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: example of how true or not that is.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: I think there's two sides of that, And I would
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: say it's inarguable that the first part worked for the Patriots,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: right they got they had a little soft spot, you know,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: and they had some they got some confidence underneath him,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: and then they went to Buffalo and won. Yeah, and
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: it was like they took off there.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: There goes the greatest there was.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: You need to brush up on your third and medium.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: So Evan stays for the whole show.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: That's too bad, because Pauli in La says Evan FM all,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: no one can take away the fun of the season.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Losing is as important as winning and how you handle it.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Focus on the positive and shut out the noise.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: That's kind of how I am, Like, I don't it
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: doesn't really it bothers me that my team lost it
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: doesn't bother me because what other people say about it.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it doesn't.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Know, I really affect. I understand what Evan is.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: But I'm with you guys in that I've kind of
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: slowly extracted myself from needing to you know, you want
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: to hear what I think about the Patriots. I talk
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: about six hours a week here, and I talk about
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 6: it whatever four hours on the weekend.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Like you know this is in some weeks.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: You have more TV shows to talk about to disappointed
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: this week, so you have a little less Yeah, well,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: can't give your meeting with Wherry.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: I know why the Jason clarifies that DMX means Drake
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  Speaker 1: may ten. Oh okay, we got a new one DMX,
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  Speaker 1: so like TV twelve, I think y'all going to make
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  Speaker 1: me lose my mind one.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Speaking of DMX, I saw something that made me chuckle
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: a little bit today. Jamie Erdall, who hosts the NFL
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: what was it called, Get.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Up, Wake Up, Good morning, Hell Up, Good.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: Morning football, Good morning football, Get the hell up. She
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: they were all asked to list their teams, the most
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: consistent team and she picked the page of poss right
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: but the and they write them out on the white
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: board and they show them. She wrote the new New England.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Patriots Patriots, you know, like Drake Drake, Yeah, yeah, good,
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Kevin, Yeah, I think it was New New England Patriots Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard this one too, and I don't understand, uh
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: scared the charges may have the Patriots number based on
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: how bad they beat the Patriots last time they played. Yeah,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: that's I've heard your shows. I've heard this on your
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: show that I.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Have not heard that on show. You know, I don't
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: think it has any relevance because this does. These are
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: not the same player if they were the same team,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: like I would say, okay.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, I generally agree. I will just say though,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 6: I don't dismiss the fact of Justin Herbert came into
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: the stadium and played well and should have familiarity with
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: how it is and confidence, and I agree it definitely
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: doesn't matter. But I do think that that doesn't mean
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: nothing to me. It means a little bit.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: It means nothing to all. Right, We're going to take
• 1:06:29
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  Speaker 14: Congrats on them to your next weekend. In the first
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  Speaker 14: shout of the playoffs, Yeah it was big. We talked
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  Speaker 14: all week. I mean we still had you know, business.
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  Speaker 8: It is a division opponent, so you know, come in
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  Speaker 8: here getting fourteen wins on the season. That was you know,
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  Speaker 8: our big thing was just finishing what we started. So
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  Speaker 8: he was able to do that. You know we're going
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 8: now it's a new season, so we're aside.
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  Speaker 15: For Christian, you've been here back to back four win seasons.
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  Speaker 15: Now you know game wraps up fourteen wins. You're on
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 15: the precipice of playing in your first playoff game. I
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  Speaker 15: know this one just standard. You've got a week to go,
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  Speaker 15: But what's the mindset heading into your first shot at
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 15: the postseason.
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  Speaker 8: I'm excited, very excited to be able to play in January.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's a it's a as a kid,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 8: it's a dream come true. Really, I mean just being
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 8: able to play in the playoffs. And we came in
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: and Brays came in and said, you know, win the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 8: division and host home playoff games, so we are able
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 8: to do that.
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  Speaker 16: So, like I said, my understanding is the Cardinals ask
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 16: permission to talk to Thomas Brown. I was wondering what
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 16: he's provided, what he's done for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll focus you know, I mean I want the
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: best for every single coach that's here. I do, and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: we'll focus on that. Whenever they can talk to our coaches,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: we'll approach that. I'm excited for every one of them
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: that could get an opportunity. I'll help them however I can.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: But our focus is obviously on the on the Chargers
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: this week and a and a huge task against a
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: a really good football team.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 17: Other than the obvious physical tools, what does drum and
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 17: James bring to the table.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: The beats so good? Uh, you know, I think he's
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: got really good instincts. You know, when he blitzes whether
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: to go inside or go outside, I think he uh,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: you know, there's a passion, there's a there's a love
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: for football. There there's a play demeanor. He's a very
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: good tackler. You know, he can cover, he matches up,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: he has versatility to play down or you know, close
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage. He can play you know,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: in the deeper part of the field. And again I
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: just having the luxury, uh to coach a Pro Bowl.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: He was on that team and just an unbelievable person.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: I remember his mom was getting married and he's like coaching.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: He like he like communicated, like reached out like hey,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss it down. I was like, buddy, this
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: is I don't think there's any rules to the Pro Bowl.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: And so just remembering that about him, I always have
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of respect for him. Obviously the player is,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: but the person.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 18: I said, Drake has a lot of answers to defensive
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 18: tests this year. What is it about you and Josh
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 18: the whole staff being sort of proactive about making sure
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 18: he's ready when he sees something.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Maybe that there's a lot of growth there. And I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: think a lot of growth as we've worked from the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: off season through training camp and joint practices versus the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: Commanders and the Vikings and against our defense, and then
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: working through the regular season, you know, just trying to
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: give him the best chance and to put us in
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: the right situation. And I think he's learned from some
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: of those instances where maybe he could have gone to
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: something else, and I think he's learned from that. So
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: that's been really good to see. And that's you know,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: credit to Josh obviously.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: In Ashton Chargers playing style, you talked a.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: Lot about your own with you kind of learned.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: About, you know, what they do with big, physical football team.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: They don't really beat themselves. They statistically excellent in every
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: category across the front. Defensively, they don't just stop the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: run well or they don't give up, you know, but
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: they're good on third down, or good on the short yardage,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: excellent in the red zone, and I think it's uh,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: you look at a play that broke against the Texans
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: of was the screen to the left, and you know,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: every single guy on defense is chasing the ball and
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Khalil Mack wins the race and hammers the football out
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: and causes the fumble. So those those are the things
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: that I can appreciate, you know, with with a defense
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: or for a team. And you know, this is certainly
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: a team that's gonna you know, play that way Moses
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: meant to your team. And in the slaughter host great
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: veteran presence, I think that he's played well. It hasn't
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: just been a presence. I mean he's protected the quarterback
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: and uh it's been out there and you know, we
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: got some guys sick today Morgan will be in one
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: of the that group of guys that are that are sick,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: so he won't be getting the physical reps. But just
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: I think, uh, everything that we've we've wanted him to
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: be and needed him to be as far as changing
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: over some personnel and and adding him. So that's been
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: it's been fun to watch that group. Joel like who
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: else is sick? Brad Berry, Anthony Jennings, Verderian Lowe.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 17: Does you rely on team identity as you get into
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 17: what you've been able to build since really day one year?
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: Well, we've said this numerous times. You can't just play
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: hard and hope to win, you know, run like this
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: with the football and hope that you're going to be
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: able to break tackles or gain a bunch of yards.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: So you need production, you need execution. So I think
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: that it helps you. I mean, it's it's critical and
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: being able to keep our composure with whatever happens in
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: the football game, making sure that we execute in critical situations,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: you know. So again I think that the identity is important,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: but execution and guys making plays and us you know,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: all sticking together, you know, is going to mean the most.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Chargers are second in the league in time of possession.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: What do they do well that allows them to put
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: onto the ball and in a.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: Playoff situation, how dangerous is a team that holds onto
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: the ball for.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 9: A long time?
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Well, they certainly you know, either a one or two
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: based on whatever you look at. They they do a
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: nice shot. They don't mind it being in third and three,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: and you know, run it to stay on track. And
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: because they're really good on third down quarterback that can
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: that can scramble for a first down, they can run it,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: and they can multiple different route concepts and those down
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: in distances, and so just probably the more that they
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: possess it, obviously the less that we get it. But
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: I also think it's a mentality where they're trying to
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: wear you down and and win the game in the
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter and put the five minute tea you know,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, put their five minute offense out there and
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: and and run it, run it to win it. Like
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: last time when we had a playoff game here, you
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: were the visiting teams, Hyph coach, you describe this place
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: I have as a fifer stead. I know it's been
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: a couple of years, but what did that turn meeting
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: to you back then and what does it take to
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: leave you with that kind of reputation and your currency? Well,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: I mean it just got to be a tough place
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: to play in January. If we're able to get there
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: in January like we are, we have to create an
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: environment that that makes it difficult to play. Whatever the
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: record was back you know, when I was looking at
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: the stats in twenty nineteen, twenty one and three or
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: whatever it was in January. I'm going to be off
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: by a couple of games because it's a few years ago,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: but that you know, we were talking about, you know
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: what we would have to do to come in and win,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: and we need to create a hard environment. We need
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: to play well and let our crowd feed off of
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: us and let us feed off of them.
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  Speaker 9: Personally in peril.
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  Speaker 17: Latery he comes back this week dealing with injury. Do
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  Speaker 17: you have a sense of where you might be from
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 17: a pass rur standpoint midweek or do you have to
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 17: find out the first quarter kind of when the giguet.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Is going on a past rush?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how much rush you might have with just your typical.
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  Speaker 2: Cour No, man, I don't think that's a something that
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  Speaker 2: you could tell in practice. I mean, you got to
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: go out there and win and live action, and not
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: only win, you have to be able to you know,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: get the guy on the ground. You know, Justin's just
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: great play strength, toughness. You know, can avoid and scramble
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: for a lot of yards and can stiff arm you
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: and you know, so again, I think that'll have to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: be determined Sunday night from Walder Stevens, and he.
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  Speaker 16: Was named AFC Offensive Player in the League, which was
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 16: actually the first time he's gotten his award his career.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: What was it like to see him get that recognition
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: for his performance?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Always excited for our players, and you know, sounded like
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: a broken record, but I think he continued to do
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: the things that we needed him to do to help
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: us win, and in turn was rewarded for it with touchdowns,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: with rushing yards, with you know, big catch there, but
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: also he protected a quarterback. So I'm excited and happy
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: for him, recognized him, and then we moved on.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: Like it's the first game this season where it's wait
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: or go home.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: He said, it's a heightened sense of urgency around here.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: You know. I mean, we need to embrace the preparation
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: and I want them to continue to enjoy, you know,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: the execution and everything that goes on with us. I'm excited.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: I'm excited for these guys to prepare them, excited to
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: coach them. So I mean, I hope they'll we're locked
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: in every week and imagine we'll we'll get everything we
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: can out of them.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's just kind of alluded to it to just
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: to be in this position.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: Bringing playoff football back to Ploxborough.
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  Speaker 2: Here, I don't want. Yeah, I mean I'm I'm happy,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: I'm excited, but also we're not here just to you know,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: get here. You know, we we have to you know,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: be able to host games and compete for championships. So
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: there's not going to be any consolation prize for anybody.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: You know, we understand what we have to do.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Previous matchups with Great Roman, what have you noticed about
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: how he operates?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Does he kind of have a style that he appears
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: to or receive Well, I mean, you know, Greg's gonna
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be physical, and then they're gonna marry the
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: play action pass and they off the run actions. They're
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: gonna look at things that they have given you trouble
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: in the past. They've got their core concepts, mixed personnel,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: use big people, Lamar Jackson, So it's probably a little
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: different with with as much quarterback run. You know, they
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: have it. You know, we'll have to be ready for it.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: I just don't know if it'll be as much as
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: what he did with Lamar Jackson, but you know, there's
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of carryover. There's also a lot of growth
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: and what he's done with mixing personnel, you know, keeping
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: your guessing, keeping you you know, moving guys around, motioning
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: to get guys at the point of attack.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 19: This year about Drake as a leader, how have you
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 19: seen him demand more from his teammates and would this
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 19: be the kind of week where you'd expect him to
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 19: lead in that fashion.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: I would hope that he would lead as our quarterback
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: every single week. This is a next week, It's an
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: important week. I think just the command that he has
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: in the huddle. You know, at practice, you see you know,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: communication with guys off on the side when you know
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: maybe the defense is working. You know, I see something.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: I see things during the game where you know he's
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: trying to get guys on the same page and you know,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: communicate to him and and that relationship there. So I
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: think he's continuing to work at it. And again it's, uh,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: everybody's trying to become a little better leader.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 12: Obviously, you've got got a lot of successes here with
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 12: a lot of head coaching.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: Movement around the league.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: If you look back and think of through year off
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: from being a head coach as being beneficial.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: That was probably it was the only option I had,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: so I guess I didn't have a choice.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 17: Mike, you talk offensively about X plays coming from seventy
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 17: percent of guys may go to play thirty percent scheme defensively.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 17: Does that whole true? Because I know obviously LA has
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 17: been really really good at denying those X plays, and
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 17: it seems a lot of it is structural. But where's
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 17: that balance?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I imagine that for this was league
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: wide when I just did like a quick you know,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: when you look through each week, you know, I mean,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: some of those numbers may be off where but you know,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: I think sometimes schematically, I think way you tackle goes
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: into that a lot, you know, I mean, the way
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: you play the football down the field, you know, split
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: safety versus post safety. I think there's some things going through.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: I just was saying that there. It's not always gonna
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: just be, you know, the best player making a play.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's gonna get schemed open. Sometimes we're gonna have
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: to go make a play and it's a one on
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: one matchup, and and that's kind of how those things
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: are created. Running backs, you know, be like, that's a
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: really cool run was untouched and everybody was blocked. Sometimes
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: you got to make a guy miss and break a tackle.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: You mentioned Herbert.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Don't take me too literal here, I apologize. I just
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: try to say that it's a it's a combination.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: You mentioned justin Herbert a couple of times. Just with
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: his physical skills. How how much of the challenges.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: He break control A lot? A lot. He's got toughness, uh,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: great arm, talent, great athletic ability. You know he's under duress,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, and it doesn't really affect him. You don't
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: see him get frustrated. A lot of respect for him
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: as a as a as a person man obviously as
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: a player, and you know, he's lived up to everything
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: that they thought he'd be as a franchise quarterback. And
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: he's it's really just one of the best quarterbacks in
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: the league.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 20: Seems like the packages where you have seem the six
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 20: offensive line packages has been a very big reason for
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 20: the wrong game success recently led to the decision to
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 20: maybe lean on those looks more and also why hasn't
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 20: been so successful for you guys.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think any time that we blocked the you
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: know guys at the line of scrimmage and we blocked
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: the support player that we're able to run the football.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: So that's six linemen. If we need seven, I'll probably
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: draw the line there. But you know, however, many guys
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: we need to put out there that can that can
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: move somebody off the line of scrimmage and block support.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm in favor of.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Thanks, and now great moments in history.
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  Speaker 21: Andrew used to go to the same gym as Andy
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 21: Hart right on run over here, so we'd see him
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 21: every morning before work. So he said, one day at
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 21: the gym, there's this guy and there was a boxing
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 21: one of those big boxing bags and the guy was
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 21: like hitting it really hard and grutting and whatever and
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 21: like making a big scene. And here was like six
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 21: point thirty in the morning, Like what is this guy doing?
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: So he was about to go to Andy.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 21: He'd be like, check out this guy. And all of
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 21: a sudden and as soon as the guy was done,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 21: Andy went over and he started doing the same thing
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 21: to the bag and Andrew. Andrew was like, he was like,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 21: I was literally like seconds away from being a hate
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 21: check out this guy.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: So that's part of Andy's routine that he never really
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: told us about. The heavy bag. We didn't know that
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: that was something he uses the heavy.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 21: Bag, and Andrew was about to make fun of the other.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Guys, So they must have to stand really close with
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: those short arms. Yeah, that's another great moment from all
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: right back here and Patriots Sunfiltered eight five five past
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  Speaker 1: five hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: Is the email addresses Paul and I Evan left for Vrabel.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: And then Duce got a text that there's a lot
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: of people in the locker room. So he had a
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: run to be part of that, right like he took off.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: I gotta go here. It's crazy in the locker room
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: on Ion Evan, and you know, Duce has to be,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: you know, in the mix. This is like get a
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: vibe chance. This is like, you know, for him, it's
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: like the pre party at the Academy Awards. He's got
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: to be in there, you know, hobnobbing with everybody.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: A little you were a little dismissive friend, a little
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: bit anything from Rabel stick out to you. He has
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: a lot of respect for the Chargers and in the
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: way they play. I felt like that when I listened
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: to him on Monday.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean other than like you said while we
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: were watching, maybe he's a little upset that no one
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: offered him a job.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: Last Yeah, yeah, he asked me. Was asked a question
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: sort of later in the press conference, did he feel
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: like the year away was beneficial at all?
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: And he's like, well, you know, it wasn't really my choice.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't have much of a choice or something.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: I was always said. So I kind of got the
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: impression he's still a little angry that he didn't get
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: an offer last year.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was uh, you know.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: No, I thought he was pretty complimentary of the Chargers.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: I thought I think he I didn't get the impression
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: that he was necessarily saying things that you were like
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: when Belichick would talk about the Cleveland Browns and say that,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: you know, this is an explosive team that can score
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: any from anywhere on the field, and you look and
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: they're like thirty second in scoring. You know, I didn't
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: get any of those. Yeah, the things that he talked about, I.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Really think, and he talks about the punter.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: Looked, Yeah, I've looked up some of these stats that
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: Mike has talked about on Monday and today, and I
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: already was aware of what the Chargers have done well
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: this year, and those are the things that stick out,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, top five and a lot of different things.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: The other thing that you know, again, the differences between
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Rabel and Bill Belichick. Of course there are many. But
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: the first question was about Thomas Brown getting an interview
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: with Arizona and if that was posed to Bill, Bill
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: would be like, we're focused on this game, and Rabel says, no,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: We're always cooperate what we want our people to get
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: these opportunities, and we're always helpful, you know, so.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: Like it'll be interesting to see not just head coaches,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: but if people are looking at some members of the
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: Patriots staff in general because they've had such a great year.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: They obviously have an interesting situation on defense with Terrell
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: Williams dealing with you know, his health problems, a guy
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: like Zach Krer, it would be you know, maybe on
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: someone's radar for a defensive coordinator. You know, I don't
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: know necessarily if that would be you know, something that
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: he'd be you know, Core would be interested, they would
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: get permission, all that kind of stuff. But these are
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: the kind of things that happen to teams when when
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: they're good playoff teams and the kind of listen.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: You know, you'd be like, why would they want to leave?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, especially if the pages make a deep run.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: You got to if you're a person in the NFL,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: you got a family, whatever, you got to strike while
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: the iron's hot.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: So you know, in that particular case that that I
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: just brought up, And if that's a complete hypothetical, I
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: have not heard any noise about that at all. But
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: if Terrell Williams comes back, you know, and let's face it,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: we all hope he does, he's you know, stronger and
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: healthier than ever. That's what everybody's hoping for. If he
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: comes back and is the defensive coordinator next year. If
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: you're Zach Khorr and you go back, well, now I'm
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: not the coordinator anymore, and someone wants me to be
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: their coordinator, right right, Why wouldn't.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: You conside I may not get that opportunity next year.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: So I don't blame any of these guys, just as
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: I don't blame free agents for changing teams or coaches
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: for that matter.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: And we've talked a lot about they have a handful
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: of former head coaches on staff. You know, Thomas Brown
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: is one of them. He was an interim coach for
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: the Bears. You know, Doug Moron. Todd Downing has been
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: an offensive coordinator elsewhere, Josh McDaniel's former head coach elsewhere.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: I think there's going to be interest in some of
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: these guys. Yeah, these are again, these are the problems
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: that good teams face.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, eight five to five past five hundred.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones. Todd's and Gardner. What's up, Todd?
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 7: I just want to thank you guys for the journey.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 7: You know, when to start in the preseason and.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: Don't stop believing.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we have we have some concerns with Hollins or
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 7: Williams Daber. We weren't sure what we're going to get
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 7: and I just want at that time was looking to say, hey,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 7: I don't want to be in the basement in the AFC.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 7: That was my goal for the year, and with everything
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 7: that's happened, I think I actually will be disappointed if
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 7: we don't win this game. So that's how far we progressed.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 7: And you guys got us there like you guys took
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 7: us through this whole journey, and we went there together
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 7: with the ups and downs, and I really appreciate it,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 7: But I wonder how far have you felt that you
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 7: progressed from where you started, say, preseason treating camp, and
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 7: where you got to now?
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, okay, thanks. I mean for me, it's
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: you know, it's come. I've you know, I didn't think
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: they would do this in the beginning of the season.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: So how far have I come? I've come to now
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: thinking we're going to beat the San Diego Charges in
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: the wildcard round of the playoffs. Yeah, I mean that's
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: I would agree. Who'd have thunk?
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: And you know, I think Todd said you would have
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: been happy just not to finish last, and that's what
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: I was thinking. I figured they'd finish third. I thought
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: they would be of the jets behind my second in
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: the I'm on record saying you did. You did, and
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: you were a little bit more optimistic than I was.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: But I mean, I felt, you know, somewhere, you know,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: six seven, eight wins was was definitely reasonable, and I
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: felt like there were and there were a lot. It
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: wasn't just one or two people. There were there were
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: a handful of people in the local media here that
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: were predicting ten eleven, twelve, one had thirteen, and I
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: will be the first one to admit I laughed at
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: at something. You know, you know, ten. Okay, if everything
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: goes perfectly and Drake May is really good, yeah ten,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: I thought ten was the ceiling. But yeah, thirteen I
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: thought was outrageous and they ended up winning fourteen. So
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: that's how far my mind, right.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah? How about uh, George and Kansas? What's up? George, George, George, George,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: George of the Jungle. Remember that cartoon George Georgie? Are
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: you there, George George? All right, George is gone? Kansas.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: Oh there's another person from Kansas, Daniels in Kansas. What's up, Daniel, Hey, guys,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: what's up on? What's happening?
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 7: Shut you guys out, Thank you very much. Just that
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 7: work here only Patriots fan in a like one hundred
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 7: mile radius here in the middle of nowhere, Kansas. Just
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 7: a quick one for you, guys. Do you think Hunter
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 7: Henry is excited for this weekend? And do you think
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 7: he'll have a big game considering the Charger struggled against
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 7: some sight ends this season?
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: All right, thanks, Daniel.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: I do think Henry's been a pretty important guy for
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: Drake May all season long. He's been pretty consistent and
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: I expect that to continue. You know, Evan sort of
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: felt like Diggs and Henry would be the focal point
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: for Jesse Minter and the Chargers defense. But I think
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: that's what's one thing to say, we got to take
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: these guys out. I'm not sure they're going to be
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: able to do that. I would expect Henry to have of,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: you know, an impact on the game.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: But as Evan said, he's he thinks that the Charges
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: will have a plan for dayson Henry, right, And why
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: wouldn't they?
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, those are the two guys that you
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: would worry about at the top of the list. I
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: just feel like they're also at the top of that
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: list for a reason.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Ted says, and he's in Vegas. The Patriots
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: have the worst strength of schedule three ninety one, and
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: Denver has the second worst strength of schedule for twenty two.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: But I never hear people complain about Denver's easy schedule.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: And you don't listen high.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: I only hear people complain about the Patriots schedule. Why
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: does Denver get a pass?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: You're not listening hard enough. There's a lot of people
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: that are questioned both of those teams there being paper
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: Tigers are fourteen wins.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a matter of.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: Fact, around here, if you listen around here, it's a
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: complete dismissal of Denver because they played so many close games.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: I think they have eleven to one score wins or
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: something like that.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: The dismissal I hear of Denver around here is because
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: of bo Nicks. But I think he's pretty good.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: I just don't think he plays anywhere near the caliber
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: that makes no.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: But like I think in crunch time, he's got some sand.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: He's been good when he's had to be, but he's
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: not very consistent, and I think in a playoff scenario
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: you end up not being good for the balance of
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: the game and there's no game.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: To come back for, right, But he's got some sand
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: in it.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of criticism for the for the
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: other teams. The Patriots have not just the worst schedule
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: this year, it's historically the weakest schedule since they really
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: been tracking this stuff.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: Chris in New Hampshire has a question how many wins
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: constitutes a playoff run and does the number depend on
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: whether or not the team hosts the game. Can a
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: wildcard team win less games but still be on a run? Also,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: to get more into the Semantico minute, what constitutes a
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: team having a little bit of a playoff run? Hopefully
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: the spark's an argument. I think one game would be
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: a playoff run. Right, you win a game and then
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: you're on a run.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: So is he yeah, you can't make a play you
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: made a run to the playoffs?
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh right, that's right.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: And if you lose the first game, you didn't make
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: a playoff run.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah right. I think he's talking about once you.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: Get in there, Once you get in I think you
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: have to win a game.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah? Is that yeah?
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, So he's no argument.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: He's wondering, That's what I'm saying. But he's wondering if
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: so for some people that doesn't constitute a run. You
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: have to win two or more?
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: No, I think you you win a game, you made
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: a run.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There's only four games total to get to the
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: you know three.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: And I think his point is is by winning a
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: wild card. In other words, if the Patriots losing the
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: division round and the Broncos losing the division round, did
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: either one of them make a playoff run, or did
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: only one of them make a playoff run because the
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: Patriots won a game and then got knocked out and
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: the Broncos had the buy and got knocked out. Yeah,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: I mean semantics.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: Eric from Amherstburg, Evan being so worried about losing sounds
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: like you might want a writer on call if we lose.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: To cover Evan, I'm thirty two, and if he's being
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: worried about going one and done, it's weak mentality.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: Wow, well, so I'm not sure I'd like to follow
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: up on that email. Is it weak because you're worried
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: about losing or week because you can't handle losing?
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: I think can't handle it?
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, I mean I would largely can't
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: handle it.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: I would largely say yeah. Jay in Minnesota says Evan
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: can't keep doing this. I think on Wednesday and Thursdays,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: we need to move up the show an hour early.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: Too many times we have let Evan sneak out early
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: because he's in a great argument with Paula Fred. We
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: can't keep letting Evan think he's won the argument because
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: he walked out. Also deuce what vibes are we looking for?
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: In the locker room. I vote for an hour earlier
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: for the show.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: Well, there's another show on before us on Wednesdays from
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: ten to twelve, right, it's called Catch twenty two.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Evan, you know.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: And really originally that was kind of the plan, was
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: Evan was going to do Catch twenty two and then
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: Mike Bred and I would handle Patriots on Filter. But
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: Evan can't get enough Fred, and he stays here for
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: another hour, yeah, and joins us for our show. Yep,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of other things going on here, Like
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: just that's the bottom line.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: This isn't our main job. This is my main job.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: This is what I love to do because Fred and
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: I like we majored in arguing, in bickering. Like Jerry Madelon,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: our famous host loves to call us the odd couple.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: I think it's very appropriate. But everybody, we all have
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: a lot of other things.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: To do too, Anthony writes in just a Story about
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: being bummed out. I live in New York, as you
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: may know. Well I didn't really, but so when the
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: Patriots lose I hear about it. Not only does it
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: kill my mood and depress me. Every single person knows
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: how much I love the Patriots. Afterward, they'll either give
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: me that haha, sucks for you look, or the ah,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: sorry about your team, kind of condescending. Look. The twenty
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: eleven Super Bowl was the worst. Some of my closest
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: friends are obviously Giants and Jets fans. I watched in
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: a room full of Giants fans, about twenty people. I
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: walked out immediately after the final play. That lost did
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: something to me, and now whenever they lose, I just
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: feel terrible.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: That's a little different, Like you watch the two thousand
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: and seven Super Bowl with a room full of Giants fans.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like that.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: Don't you think that's a little different than just like
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: my tea, my team lost, sure, and now I'm going
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: to get you know, I mean.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like PTSD shit man. Yeah, I mean that's crazy.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: You're with the Giants fans. They they like, that's not
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: like they're making fun of you. Like their team just
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: won a colossal upset in the super Bowl. Like, don't
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: you think they should be happy?
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Christen Virginia. Amongst the MVP debate, here's a
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: short quiz relating to MVPs in the postseason for Paul
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: since two thousand, the Patriots have faced the MVP in
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: the postseason eight times. The record against the MVP in
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: postseason is seven one. Can you name the MVP who
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: was defeated by the Patriots in the following seasons?
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: One, right, Three.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: McNair and Manning. That's right, mvph four. I'm gonna guess
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: Manning again.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: Six lt that's right.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: Sixteen Matt Ryan, that's correct. Eighteen Mahomes, that's right.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: You got it. Finally, for a bonus point, who is
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: the only MVP that the Patriots have lost to in
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: the postseason since two thousand?
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: You're not gonna give me the year for that?
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: One?
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: Huh thirteen Manning? That's right. There you go. You can't
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: stump the grump.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: I would I needed the years, though, I don't think
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: I would have gotten all those like that. I needed
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: the years.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: I think Mahomes he won the he won the MVP
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl in like twenty one. Maybe I
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: don't know one of those years that the Chiefs won
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: and that was kind of broke a streak.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: I think it was the net was it nineteen?
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: The next year, maybe it was nineteen, I don't know.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see Nick and Connecticut. After listening to calls
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: and emails for the past week suggesting nicknames for Drake,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: I thank god the Patriots unfiltered listeners are not responsible
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: for creating nicknames.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's a listener and listening to crime.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: I like it. The whole thing about Nick Day. You
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: can't create it. It just has to be organic, like
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: it just happened, you know.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: It's funny. I was listening. I was watching the John
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: Elway documentary on Netflix. Have you seen any of this?
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: Fred? I know you like that way too.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: I watched probably like the first forty five minutes or so,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: and then I got sidetracked. I had to shut it off.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: But just like they called him the Duke, you know,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: because they kind of thought he walked a little bit
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: like John Wayne. They called him the Duke of Denver, yep,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: the riflemen.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: So it's like maybe there's more nicknames out there than yeah,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: And we kind of thought.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: This one came in yesterday. But I saved it because
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: I do want to answer it. I don't want to
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: duck it. Robert in Portland, Maine says early in the season,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: when Andre Stevenson had fumbles in two different games. At
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: the time, the PU Crew said that the Patriots didn't
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: have a deep enough bench to take Romandre out of
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: the rotation and that even if Ramandre never fumbles again
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: this season, the Patriots should move on from him in
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: the offseason. Romandre only had one more fumble this season
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: and has had multiple clutch plays. As we enter the playoffs,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: where does the PU crew now stand on Remandre.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: I think I might have said that they will move
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: on from him, not that they should. I would not,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: but I am higher on ramondre Stevenson than most. I
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: think he does a lot of different things that helped
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: the team win. And I think I probably changed my
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: viewpoint from what I had earlier in the season based
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: on the way Mike Rabel has talked about him throughout
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: the year. I think he's a Rabel kind of guy. Yeah,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised. And the reason why I thought
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: they would move on from him was had almost almost
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: nothing to do with the fumbles. It was about I
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: feel like Mike Rabel did all he could to sort
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: of move past what was already here and the ones
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: that he didn't with the guys that had contracts that
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: kind of prohibited it. It wasn't cost effective. And I'm
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: thinking of guys like Mike oh Winu, Christian Barmore, Ramandre Stevenson.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: There were a handful of guys that just got extensions
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: from the previous regime that it wouldn't have necessarily been
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: cost effective to do so, and Stevenson was one of them.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: But I think he could be. I think he could
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: be part of the future.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: I have to walk it back. I mean, if I
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: remember the feeling. I don't know if I was the
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: one who said those words, but I remember the feeling
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: like you just can't tolerate that. You just can't have
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: a guy out there dropping the ball. So I remember
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: thinking that. But listen, that's why Mike Vrabel's a head
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: coach in the NFL and I'm not. He dealt with
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: the situation perfectly, and he did, and so thank god
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not the head coach and he is. But I
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: think people do forget.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: And I agree with you that I thought Vrabel handled
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: it really, really well. His workload was drastically reduced.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: Oh it was, and had to be.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: He didn't get to he didn't get benched.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: That's negligence. If you can't get out.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: But I think people, I think people with you know,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: the results of the last month have rewritten history a
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: little bit like, no, nothing changed, Oh no, no, something changed. Yes,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: his workload was diminished in the immediate aftermath of those
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: those tumbles, and he gradually earned the trust. I remember
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: you had Gibson back there, yes, right, Yes, that's part
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: of where he lost some carries to and then Henderson
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: eventually emerged because Henderson got off to a slow start,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: and then you know, about halfway through it was probably
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: that Tampa game that Henderson hit a couple of big
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 3: plays and was like, whoa, you know, now we got
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: this explosive guy. And eventually I think Stevenson, you know,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: earned his way back in a circle of trust.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: Let's just say that Gibson got hurt in training camp
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: or never made it the season, or he got hurt
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: in the first game or whatever, and you only had
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: Henderson and Stevenson. I don't know if then in the
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: trade deadline, if Rabel would have gone and gotten a
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: running back.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: So at the trade deadline Gibson had been hurt, they
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: could have made a move.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: Then that's true, that's true.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: But I'm just saying I want to say the last
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: fumble that that Rimandre had was the Buffalo, the first
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: Buffalo game, which is like week five, Week five, So
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: there were a couple of weeks there that that he
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: didn't get as many carries as he had.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: That's true, he didn't.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 3: He is and then eventually, you know, like he was
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: out there like late game pass protection situations. You know
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: that that's when he got his snaps. He didn't get
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: as many touches there for a couple of weeks.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: It's true, Rick in Riverside, Rhode Island, it's a lot
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: of ours. Like most Patriots fans, I believe we are
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: currently playing with house money. But I think the Patriots
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: can win it all this year. One, the run game
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: has found its groove hitting the playoffs. Two overall team
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: health is improving. Three the players seem bought into Rabel's
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: message four Drake Drake may may win loser draw. This
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: has been successful. Let's hope for four more wins.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, I would largely agree with everything about that email. Yeah,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: it's a rarity for.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: Me, Joe. If the haters are right and you weren't
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: really that good, then be happy you got a fun season,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: and you probably shouldn't have full's gold is the only
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: is only a bad thing if you don't believe that
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: you have gold. I largely agree with that too. That's
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: a good way of looking at it too. If you
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: really don't think you're that good, then it's all gravy.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: But you also, I would look at it as, you know,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: again from completely from the team perspective, maybe I'm not
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: that good this year, but I'm only going to get better.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: That's the way you look at it as a fan.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: Imagine what we're going to do next year. Now, I
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: would be disappointed because I think this is an opportunity
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: because I don't look at the teams in the AFC
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: as being better than the Patriots next year. The Patriots
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: could very well be better than they are now, but
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: they might be two teams that are have reloaded and
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: better than you. Yeah, and it'll be that much harder
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: to make a run, you know what I mean. But
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: I would look at it as, yeah, maybe maybe we're
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: not quite as good as our record this year, but
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: Drake may is going to be better. You might get
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: another weapon to work with on the outside. Maybe Kyle
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: Williams becomes a really dangerous guy next year for him
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 3: after you know, a slow rookie year, I think you
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: only caught ten pass all season. Maybe next year he's
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 3: a guy who catches seventy passes for you when you
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: have become a dangerous offense all over again. So this
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot to be excited about in
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: the future, not just now.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: Max in Atlanta. My post vote MVP take Drake May
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: is the MVP, and unless voters accidentally watch the games,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: he probably won't win it. At this point, MVP voting
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: feels like sort by touchdowns than closed spreadsheet. For example,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: the other two most efficient seasons in my opinion are
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: Breeze in eighteen and Golf in twenty four and eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: Breeze at seventy four percent, four thousand yards thirty six
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  Speaker 1: touchdowns lost to Mahomes who had five thousand yards and
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  Speaker 1: fifty touchdowns twenty four.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, which one of those two you think is better?
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  Speaker 1: I think Mahomes probably a loss.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty four Goff at seventy two percent, forty seven hundred
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  Speaker 1: yards about and thirty seven tds lost to Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 1: who had four point two thousand yards in forty seven tds. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know last year.
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  Speaker 3: Last year, well, Josh Jared Goff wasn't really even in consideration.
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  Speaker 3: It was Lamar Jackson last year who had vastly better numbers.
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  Speaker 3: So if they were just painting by touchdown numbers, Lamar
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  Speaker 3: Jackson would have won.
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  Speaker 1: On last year. May has been more efficient, more consistent
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  Speaker 1: ADS rushing, which should matter, but history says it probably didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Feels like another year where voters rewarded stat Padford and
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  Speaker 1: called it a day.
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  Speaker 3: See that's oh, that's got good.
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  Speaker 4: I like that.
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  Speaker 3: Evan just said that stat Padford.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, oh I didn't. I didn't hear him.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that was in the whole one yard touchdown past
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  Speaker 3: ran So like those don't count, you know, like the
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  Speaker 3: touchdown on fourth and goal in Tampa Bay, the digs,
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't count. It was a one yard touchdown. See
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  Speaker 3: here's the thing, though, you don't count. Isn't this You
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  Speaker 3: can't say that.
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  Speaker 1: The one yard touchdowns don't count and then say, oh,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: the Patriots have trouble in the red zone. Well that's
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: where you have one touchdown passes in the red zone.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great point. That's a great point, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, like, yeah, so listen, I think Drake May should
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  Speaker 1: be MVP. Two.
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  Speaker 3: I think you should be MVP. He would get my vote.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have one. Unfortunately, I just don't look at
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: this as not being close the way so many Patriots
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: fans have tried to.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: Ben in Manhattan, says Paul. Dismissed the notion that the
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: difference in quarterbacking between May and Stafford is significant enough
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: to impact the team's record this year. I would argue
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots have won against the Raiders Week one or
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: the Steels Week three with Stafford, but I can't imagine
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: Stafford would have been able to pull off the game
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  Speaker 1: against the Bills in Week five. May didn't account for
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: a touchdown in the stat sheet, but this was undoubtedly
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: a game that was razor thin and required pure athleticism
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: to evade constant pressure for both underneath completions and deep balls. Great,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: this game wasn't won by McDaniels, but by the freakish
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: athleticism and aggressiveness of May in the second half. So
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you this is so funny.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost like this that email was listening to Mike
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: Dusseau and I, oh, yeah, you know, about nine o'clock
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  Speaker 3: this morning, I was talking about the different thing. I
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: was like, you know how like these random things pop
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: back in the minad. I go, you know, like that
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: guy yesterday that was claiming that I was saying that
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: Drake May didn't win any games, couldn't have been further
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 3: from the truth. Oh it was the way he said
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: that was what kind of rankled me. Not that he
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 3: disagreed that they would have had the same record or not,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: but I think you could make a strong argument that
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: if they had Stafford they might have gone sixteen and one.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: Because I don't I agree with the email, and I
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: don't see them losing to the Raiders or the Steelers. Now,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: I just say fourteen and three because Stafford lost to
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: some bad teams. Stafford lost to Carolina, Stafford lost to Atlanta.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 3: Like they lost to some bad teams. It happens like
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 3: you can have a you know, a subpar game that
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 3: was actually I said, this is all sort of flawed
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 3: because you don't the game isn't the same. But the
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 3: Buffalo game, which is exactly the game I brought up
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: to Douce I said, Stafford doesn't win doing that right,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: doing what Drake May had to do in the second
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: half in Buffalo with some of those plays. Stafford's not
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: capable of making those plays anymore. Now, maybe he wouldn't
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: have had to. Who knows, But I would say, just
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 3: on the surface, if you had a really good quarterback,
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: you were going to win fourteen games with that schedule.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 3: I think Mahomes would have won fourteen games with that schedule.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: I think Josh Allen would have won fourteen games, you know,
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: if he was playing for the Patriots this year. I
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: don't think that's disrespectful. But if you want to tell
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: me Jacoby Brissett would have won fourteen games, no chance
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 3: they would not have been over five hundred with Zakoby
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: Brissett playing quarterback. Again, I think you don't just like
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: plug in any stiff. I'm asking the guy who's going
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: to finish second in the MVP voting to Drake May,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: what would he have done with the Patriots?
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: The only the only thing I would say is with
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: the talent around him, would a quarterback who doesn't have
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: the mobility of May been able to do what to
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: win those games? I think he would have because so
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: often even in games that against these lesser teams. May
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: had to run around No, I know, but did he
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: have to or did he I think he had to?
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: I don't, Okay, I think that that's the way he
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: likes to play. I think that some of the sacks
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: that he took, I don't think. I don't think Stafford
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: would have been sacked nearly as many times as May,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: all right, because he wouldn't have He wouldn't be holding
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: the ball looking to extend plays like that. Now, he
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: probably would have sacrificed some big plays that May made,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: but he may have gotten.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: From the locker room.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 20: What was the mood where the player's friendly to that
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 20: none will look.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: Like Devin Henry And like, what was it like in
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: the lock.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: It was busy to live up to your expectations. No,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: it was, it was it was tough.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 6: We went right into Stefan Diggs biggest scrumb I scene,
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 6: and then it was literally like we got out of
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 6: digs and then Campbell was already like completely insulated by
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 6: like five layers of cameras, so I couldn't even get
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 6: in on him.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 11: Uh.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 6: You know, we also heard from Robert Splaine talk to him,
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 6: and we talked to Christian Zalez so start with Spulaine
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 6: targeting this week to come back and feels good and uh,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 6: you know, seemed really excited, ready to lead this.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: He's ready to look he's back.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 6: And ready to lead them because I forgot he said
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 6: he had two playoff games before. I'm guessing one was
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 6: with Pittsburgh. But he just said a lot of talking
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 6: lock room two just about the young guys and there's
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 6: a lot of guys this would be their first chance
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 6: to play, and you know, he just said, let's go
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 6: out there and let it rip. So they all seem excited. Diggs,
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 6: you know, continues to just calm, cool presence and saying
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 6: little talking a little about we all we got, we
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 6: all we need, and that's kind of become the mantra
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 6: now for the playoffs. So it's it was a lot
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 6: of energy in the locker room and just from the players,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 6: it seems like they're, uh, they're just really excited to
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 6: host a game at home and to get the crowd going.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 6: They were all talking about how excited they were to
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 6: have the fans, a lot of national people, a lot
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 6: of really I didn't recognize it. Nobody, nobody, I noted, nobody,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 6: like a little soupal or anything like that. Nobody that
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 6: I recognized, but the NBC people yet, No, not that
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 6: I've seen. But there were just you know a lot
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 6: of new faces. Uh, and the other Terrell Williams, the
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 6: defensive coordinator, walked through as well through and he's.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: Look at it.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: Look fine.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, he wasn't moving too fast, like
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 6: he doesn't really. He kind of kind of ambles, but
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 6: good to see him there. He kind of took note
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 6: of Will Campbell being surrounded by all the cameras.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: I remember there was a day when your rookie lineman
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: wouldn't talk to the media. All the talking was done
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: by you know.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: Rookies in general. Yeah, no, check didn't a lot of
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of rookies know.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 6: And then we'll he's been pretty much every week.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: He's a spokesman. Yeah. He does really good good at
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: it too.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 6: I mean he's just he's got a short can be
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 6: my favorite player.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 6: He doesn't get himself in trouble trying to overtalk or
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 6: over explain things. He just you know a little smile,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 6: a little southern drawl and says what he says.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: But but now I want a shopping spree. With him
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: at basketball, you'd be excited, a good way to go
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: about business.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, so so good vibes and uh yeah, just
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 6: a little bit of it. You can just feel the
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 6: energy kind of up, a little bit of uptick in
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 6: terms of the vibes.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: And now would you say the energy is that the
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: energy from the media or the players. Well, that's a
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: good question.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 6: Fred I would say probably generated more from the media
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 6: right now, where it feels like the players are kind
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 6: of like.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 22: Yeah, well, Dig's well Dig specifically, you know, Dick specifically said,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 22: you know, he's when you guys talk to me on Wednesday,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 22: this is I kind of try to keep it calm
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 22: during these days and you know then game day I
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 22: let it rip and let it all out, so, you know,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 22: a little reserve, but you could just tell they're holding
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 22: it back a little bit and there's just you know,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 22: there's there's an urgency now that I would say kind
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 22: of hovers over everything, Okay, Evan Evan, I mean in
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 22: the scrums, I mean I I it was hard to
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 22: because there's so much Trald No.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: I think he held his own.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 6: Bart was there to protect him as well, So the
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 6: two of them banded together.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: But anybody, did you have to fight anybody?
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 6: No, no, Lazar fights, but everybody. Everybody's there, all hands
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 6: on deck today.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: So I wonder how many of the people that are
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: bothering Evan on the various social platforms are actually people
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: in the media going under home, And I hope that
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: would be great.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 6: Like Barth has a burner that he just trolls Evan
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 6: constantly with, right, that would make sense to me.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh so, so good stuff, Yeah, good stuff for sure.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 6: You know, I cut out just ten minutes early so
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 6: I could come back in and share. So I'm sure
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 6: there'll probably be another scrum or two in there.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: But yeah, ready to go. Robert splane Landry around you
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: see him?
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 6: Not see Landry Tonga, did not see Tonga? Okay, But like,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 6: like I know, Mike, name some of the guys that
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 6: sorry brabes that are sick.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: Uh so, maybe they were with them a lot of
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: part of the media. You have to call them rabes. Okay,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: thank you. But again, I'm kind of buried in the scrum.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 6: So guys are walking through all the time, so it's
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 6: very possible they walked through and I didn't see them.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 6: But I did not see them.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, a lot of cameras, a lot of cameras. I mean,
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: it's a fight, playoff time, Freddy.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 6: I thought that because like my arm got kind of
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 6: like sandwich between a girl and a camera, and I
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 6: was like, I'm gonna precarious get hot here right now.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 6: I was very worried about where my hr I was.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 6: I was very concerned about that, and then I saw
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 6: my opportunity. I had to remove my arm from that
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 6: position because it was I think it's funny if like
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 6: a media person went down and like you know, Vrabel
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 6: came out and put hands on them.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: Rise my son, go forth. By the way, I meant
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: to tell you, I was on one O nine and
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: at your memorial somebody put a wreath made up toilet.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: I thought that was.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 3: Really for the holidays when you're doing this just driving
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 3: by there it is. It was off of that.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, that's gonna be it for this
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow, Big Day
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: with Picks with Picks playoffs. Won the regular season and
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: we'll move into the playoffs, so we'll just let it go.
• 1:57:25
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