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- 0:31Speaker 1: to the razor industry that its main rival, Gillette, was
- 0:35Speaker 1: compelled to launch an online subscription service, and they even
- 0:39Speaker 1: filed a patent lawsuit against this startup based in Los
- 0:43Speaker 1: Angeles Dollar Shave Club. We've got the CEO and the
- 0:48Speaker 1: chief Product innovation officer. Now we've got Charlie Pots in
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- 4:50Speaker 1: Like so many startups, like so many disruptors, Dollar Shaved
- 4:56Speaker 1: Club was born out of frustration. I want to start
- 5:00Speaker 1: the story from there with two very special guests now,
- 5:03Speaker 1: Michael Duban, founder and CEO of Dollar Shape Club, and
- 5:05Speaker 1: Boddy Murad, he's the chief product innovation officer. They're joining
- 5:09Speaker 1: us in studio today to tell us about how they
- 5:12Speaker 1: got started and how they are disrupting a very important industry.
- 5:15Speaker 1: So Micha, let's start with you, founder CEO Santa Monica.
- 5:19Speaker 1: I love Santa Monica. So you guys just were at
- 5:22Speaker 1: a party and you said you're sick and tired of
- 5:24Speaker 1: how razors work. Yeah. Yeah, it's a painting about to
- 5:27Speaker 1: go to the store, find a locked razor, fortress, find
- 5:29Speaker 1: the person with the key. They're always doing something else
- 5:31Speaker 1: and they prefer not to help you. And so, um,
- 5:34Speaker 1: you know, we launched Dollar Shave Club and that was
- 5:36Speaker 1: in two thousand twelve. Since then, we we've garnered three
- 5:39Speaker 1: point one million members. They get a shipment from us
- 5:41Speaker 1: every month or every other month, and we've since expanded
- 5:44Speaker 1: into non razor categories to solve larger men grooming challenges.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Go ahead, tell us about that, and then I want
- 5:53Speaker 1: to find out a little bit about the lawsuit, because
- 5:56Speaker 1: you know, you've managed to accomplish something not everybody does,
- 5:59Speaker 1: which is to get a made a consumer products company
- 6:01Speaker 1: to sue you. Yes, we're completely thrilled about it. Yeah,
- 6:04Speaker 1: I'm like that. Laura's must be thrilled about it as well.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Well I think I use and and you know,
- 6:11Speaker 1: soap in order to feel fresh when they deal with this.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Yeah right. Um, well, so look, I mean there's there's
- 6:17Speaker 1: men are paying a lot more attention to their grooming
- 6:19Speaker 1: than they ever have before, and they're just as frustrated
- 6:22Speaker 1: with the shopping experience and with the products themselves. Uh
- 6:25Speaker 1: and and so that's why we went out and hired Foddy, um,
- 6:28Speaker 1: you know, a very accomplished product development specialist and innovator
- 6:31Speaker 1: to help us develop you know, lines across the bathroom.
- 6:35Speaker 1: So uh, you know, we just launched today the Wanderer,
- 6:37Speaker 1: which is our line of body washes and bar soaps,
- 6:40Speaker 1: eventually shampoo and conditioner. But we've got skin preservation stuff,
- 6:44Speaker 1: we've got hair styling creams and gels. We've got pre
- 6:46Speaker 1: and pochet, We've got one wife Charlie's a butt wipe
- 6:49Speaker 1: for men, which is a major, a major seller, a big,
- 6:52Speaker 1: big seller. Uh. And you know, we're really proud of
- 6:55Speaker 1: that stuff. And the guys, guys, um, you know, they
- 6:57Speaker 1: don't like going to the store, as we know. They
- 6:59Speaker 1: like to get and get out and get on with
- 7:00Speaker 1: their lives. And we're we're sort of a guided journey
- 7:03Speaker 1: through the grooming aisle. So funny. So, as as the
- 7:06Speaker 1: innovation officer, it seems to me there is a lot
- 7:08Speaker 1: of competition in this space though. There's a busilion, different
- 7:11Speaker 1: kinds of body washes and all kinds of razors. So
- 7:14Speaker 1: what is your challenge? What are you what are you
- 7:16Speaker 1: doing that unique different besides just allowing me to put
- 7:19Speaker 1: an order in and get it automatically. What we think
- 7:22Speaker 1: is very different and very unique about our company is
- 7:25Speaker 1: we put the consumer first. We talked to him daily.
- 7:28Speaker 1: As Michael mentioned, we have over three million members. Uh,
- 7:31Speaker 1: we tap into them. We get to know what their
- 7:33Speaker 1: problems are and we identify what the solutions will be.
- 7:37Speaker 1: So men are emailing you, texting you rooms. We have
- 7:41Speaker 1: everything from from live chats to SMS, two phone calls.
- 7:45Speaker 1: We bring them in for focus groups. We actually go
- 7:47Speaker 1: into their homes to understand how they're using products in
- 7:51Speaker 1: the shower, how you know they're using their grooming products.
- 7:53Speaker 1: To really understand what are their pain points, what are
- 7:56Speaker 1: the areas of grooming that they're most frustrated with, and
- 7:59Speaker 1: how can we tappen to them to help us develop
- 8:02Speaker 1: products that it's gonna be specific for them, talk directly
- 8:05Speaker 1: to them and make their grooming habits a lot healthier.
- 8:09Speaker 1: All right, So either one of you can answer this question. Um,
- 8:12Speaker 1: you know, I like the smell of the of the soap.
- 8:14Speaker 1: You've gotten a couple of mixtures here, amber, lavender, mint,
- 8:18Speaker 1: cedar wood, and so on. The razors themselves, why are
- 8:21Speaker 1: they always so expensive? Not your razors, but I'm saying
- 8:24Speaker 1: why you know you as you mentioned, you go to
- 8:26Speaker 1: the case, you try to buy the razors and you're
- 8:28Speaker 1: knocked out by the price. Why is that? I mean,
- 8:31Speaker 1: you'd have to you'd have to talk to our friends
- 8:34Speaker 1: in Cincinnati to find out why why they're so expensive? Good?
- 8:37Speaker 1: Where the where the alternative? Yes, our good friends, good
- 8:40Speaker 1: friends to each other. Well sow you you and you
- 8:42Speaker 1: are alluding to and you mentioned the patent lawsuit from Gillette.
- 8:46Speaker 1: You can you talk about that or not? No? Unfortunately
- 8:48Speaker 1: I can't. Um, you can just say you're good friends.
- 8:51Speaker 1: I can just say my good friends and you know
- 8:53Speaker 1: we're looking forward to defending ourselves. Um, and I believe
- 8:57Speaker 1: we'll be successful. So let me ask you, BOTTI. I
- 9:00Speaker 1: would guess that a lot of women are involved in
- 9:03Speaker 1: buying these products, either say hey, mi, guy really needs
- 9:06Speaker 1: this and here it is honey signing them up. Do
- 9:08Speaker 1: you hear from women as well? Absolutely? We we do
- 9:11Speaker 1: know that. UM, A lot of men's grooming products are
- 9:13Speaker 1: purchased by the girlfriends, the partners, the wives, UM. And
- 9:17Speaker 1: they do understand that they're much more educated in terms
- 9:20Speaker 1: of using products, but the guys are not so Traditionally
- 9:22Speaker 1: they buy the products for him. UM. But it's important
- 9:25Speaker 1: for them to understand actually what they're you know, what
- 9:29Speaker 1: the what what the guy's specific skin concerns are and
- 9:32Speaker 1: the fact that it's also different. We're developing products specifically
- 9:35Speaker 1: for men, we're not leveraging women's faces. And that's how
- 9:38Speaker 1: we go about it. I think the interesting thing about
- 9:41Speaker 1: about men's grooming in the age that we're living in
- 9:43Speaker 1: right now is that guys really want control over this
- 9:45Speaker 1: area of their life. They don't want to seed control
- 9:48Speaker 1: to to somebody else in their households or somebody that
- 9:51Speaker 1: they live with. Um. They recognize the direct connection that
- 9:55Speaker 1: looking good, smelling good, feeling good has on their confidence
- 9:58Speaker 1: and their success and and um. We find that guys
- 10:01Speaker 1: are becoming more thoughtful about the ingredients that go into
- 10:04Speaker 1: all of these products. Uh. And and you know that's
- 10:07Speaker 1: why we have, you know, really high standards when it
- 10:09Speaker 1: comes to formulating these things. You know, no sulfates, no parabins,
- 10:13Speaker 1: um and always really honest, uh, you know, fragrances that
- 10:16Speaker 1: you can understand like men and cedar would and and
- 10:18Speaker 1: not you know, like you know, bear Musk. I just
- 10:21Speaker 1: wanted to know who came up with the idea of
- 10:23Speaker 1: one wife, Charlie. I did. Okay, well listen, it's not
- 10:27Speaker 1: it's you know, we get a lot of laughs and
- 10:29Speaker 1: a lot of sers, but it's a serious product. It's
- 10:31Speaker 1: it sells big time. I mean, I've had people come
- 10:33Speaker 1: up to me in the airport on conference calls, put
- 10:36Speaker 1: the phone down and say, you know, Mike, You've changed
- 10:38Speaker 1: my my life, thank you, and then unzip their bag
- 10:41Speaker 1: and show me the travel whites wives. I had a
- 10:42Speaker 1: guy in a hot tub at a conference in Hawaii,
- 10:46Speaker 1: um come up to me and tell me that his
- 10:48Speaker 1: wife made him buy those because she said he wasn't
- 10:50Speaker 1: doing a good enough job. Dollars shaved cub Club, but
- 10:53Speaker 1: chief product Innovation off to Foddy Mourad and Michael Duban,
- 10:57Speaker 1: the founder retailers selling off big time to day after
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