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One on One: John Kapelos · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all In.
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  Speaker 2: Let's Kiss You, I Am all In with Scott Patterson,
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  Speaker 2: an iHeartRadio podcast, Hey.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one eleven productions,
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  Speaker 1: iHeart Radio, iHeart Podcast, iHeartMedia. One on one interview with
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  Speaker 1: John A. Kippellis. John played the role of orientation leader
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  Speaker 1: for one episode in two thousand and five in Fight
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  Speaker 1: Face Season six, episode two. As the orientation Leader, his
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  Speaker 1: bio is quite extensive. He's best known for his portrayals
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  Speaker 1: of Janitor Carl Red in The Breakfast Club and Detective
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  Speaker 1: Donald Shank in Forever Night. And alumnus of Second City, Chicago.
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  Speaker 1: John theatrical work spans eight years from Second City's touring
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  Speaker 1: Company seventy eight to eighty two to six reviews as
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  Speaker 1: a member of the famed Resident Company eighty two to
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  Speaker 1: eighty six, and finally Second Citi's critically claimed returned to
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  Speaker 1: Off Broadway in Orwell That Ends Well in the former
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  Speaker 1: Village Gate in New York City. His appearances in three
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  Speaker 1: John Hughes film Sixteen Candles, Breakfast Club, and Weird Science
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  Speaker 1: earned him fame in the eighties as a character actor.
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  Speaker 1: He's at over two hundred film and TV appearances and
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  Speaker 1: worked on television shows such as Miami Vice as a
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  Speaker 1: corup public Defender, Desperate Housewife, Queer's Folk, The X File, Seinfeld,
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  Speaker 1: Home Improvement, Dead Like Me, e R, Boston Legal. The
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  Speaker 1: list of the films he appears includes of Shape of Water, Legally,
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  Speaker 1: Blonde rocksand Nothing in Common, The Boost, Internal Affairs. I
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  Speaker 1: give you, John Cappellis, how are you? Nice to meet you?
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  Speaker 1: Nice to meet you too, Thanks for coming on. I'm
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  Speaker 1: very very excited because you work your first your first
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  Speaker 1: gigs was maybe your first gig was working with Michael Mann.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, way back when. It was for a brief moment.
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  Speaker 1: In Thief, one of my He's one of my favorite directors.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite movies.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a wonderful movie coming out now right and
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  Speaker 3: which I guess I'm going to go to the screening soon.
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  Speaker 3: Have you seen it? Have you seen the new film?
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  Speaker 3: No is? What is Oh Ferrari? No?
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I have not seen it, but
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  Speaker 1: I know there's going to be a heat too. It's
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  Speaker 1: like a prequel, so all very exciting stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But listen, let's he's a pretty dynamic guy, and obviously
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  Speaker 3: you know, with Miami Vice and a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm glad to see him doing something, you know,
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three. Right, he's kind of I guess,
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  Speaker 3: part of the older guard now right.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, Yeah, he's but he's still you know, intense
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  Speaker 1: and demanding and.
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  Speaker 3: Nacious. He's a he's a he's a I think he's
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  Speaker 3: a a legendary filmmaker. I think he's you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think he's pretty darn good. You know, for sure, for
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  Speaker 3: sure that he doesn't need my affirmation. But you know, I,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I glanced off him. I you know, I
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  Speaker 3: honestly don't know whether he'd remember me, but I certainly
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  Speaker 3: remember him. You know, these guys work with a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people, right, sure, sure, but not to say I mean,
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  Speaker 3: my my experience on Thief was not that it was
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  Speaker 3: pre memorable in that it was a beginning thing for me.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't do really much. I'm sort of barely in
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  Speaker 3: the film. But my my real experience, not necessarily with him,
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  Speaker 3: although with his his company was Miami Vice per season, right, right,
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  Speaker 3: I did. I did an episode in Miami of course.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exciting series. It really took over television. It was
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  Speaker 1: kind of the series on TV when don't we?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and it was that you know, MTV
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  Speaker 3: cops sort of right, you know, slash thing. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So when we watched fight Face and saw you playing
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  Speaker 1: the orientation leader, we we couldn't wait to have you on.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Were you aware of the series before you were cast
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  Speaker 1: in that role?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, oh you were of Gilmore Girls, yes? Oh yeah, Oh.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think the show was, you know, especially
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  Speaker 3: the first season was such a splash, right, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I also really loved, you know, the performances in it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, for me, there was a yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 3: I was aware of it as that. But you know, nowadays, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: with Netflix and all a lot of the ubiquity of stuff,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not aware of everything. So it's it's not surprising
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  Speaker 3: to not be something right.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right, for sure. But so you were aware
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  Speaker 1: of it, and I guess they contacted you the straight
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  Speaker 1: offer and it was did you know did they tell
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  Speaker 1: you that it was an homage to the breakfast club
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  Speaker 1: character at all or anything that you would have ever done.
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  Speaker 3: No, there was a hint of that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean they were I think that it was there
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  Speaker 3: in the writing, so I think that, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: subtlety of that was not lost on me.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So you got to work with Alexus. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's the only Gilmour actor you got to work with.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You were in two scenes with Alexis tell us her
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  Speaker 1: and it.
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  Speaker 3: Was it was kind of you know, obviously not an
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  Speaker 3: intimate setting, right, Yeah, it was fun. I mean we
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  Speaker 3: shot it, I believe over Warner Brothers, right, right, you
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  Speaker 3: tell me because all the not that they all become
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  Speaker 3: the same room, but I remember it being Warner Brothers,
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, I mean it was. It was a pretty
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  Speaker 3: quick in and out for me. I wasn't you know,
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  Speaker 3: a huge you know, I think I was only in
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  Speaker 3: for a day plus. But they were really nice, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, of course, you know the producers, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're just sitting there watching and being really attentive and
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  Speaker 3: right giving their notes when they could.
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  Speaker 1: How'd you get started in your acting career.
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  Speaker 3: I did a play in high school. I did Guys
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  Speaker 3: and Dolls when I was in grade ten as we
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  Speaker 3: say in Canada, or tenth grade as basically in the
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  Speaker 3: United States. I grew up in London, Ontario, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and then you know it's I got bitten by the
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  Speaker 3: proverbial theater bug. And it's really true. I mean, when
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  Speaker 3: you when it happens to you, you sort of succumb
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  Speaker 3: And I sort of went for a few years thinking
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  Speaker 3: I was going to be something else. I went to
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  Speaker 3: university and college and thought I was going to be
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  Speaker 3: an English professor. And then at one point I sort
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  Speaker 3: of came out of the closet my friends and family
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to be an actor, and a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people I remember when I first told my friends, I
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  Speaker 3: was around seventeen or then. They all I was we
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  Speaker 3: were playing baseball. I said, you know, I think I
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  Speaker 3: want to be an actor, and they all, I'll never
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  Speaker 3: forget this. Four or five of them fell on the
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  Speaker 3: green grass and laughed on their backs. So, you know,
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  Speaker 3: to all the kids and people missing out there, nobody
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  Speaker 3: ever wants you to do this thing. You know, it's
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  Speaker 3: your own singular thing, you know, and everybody will always
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  Speaker 3: laugh at you. And indeed, you know, it was kind
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  Speaker 3: of laughable at the beginning, right, But you know, everybody,
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  Speaker 3: you know, unless you're really connected in show business, when
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  Speaker 3: you say you want to do something, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: kid at the age of whatever seven rate says I
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  Speaker 3: want to be an actor. Well, you know, all their
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  Speaker 3: friends and family throw up their hands and go, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what are we going to do?
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  Speaker 1: Very true, Very true. It is a common experience.
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  Speaker 4: But but you know, the Back to the Gilmore Girls,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the the the there was a kineticism on
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  Speaker 4: the set which I really liked.
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  Speaker 3: And there are very very few times when you're working
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  Speaker 3: in a film or TV show when when you really
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  Speaker 3: get that. And I sort of want to mention that,
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  Speaker 3: because there's an energy when you work on shows that
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  Speaker 3: are particularly successful and also really really well written in
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  Speaker 3: people that you know, I don't know how to say it.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of like, well, I do know how to say.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of like being being in the center of
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  Speaker 3: a very very quiet room where you know that there
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  Speaker 3: are a lot of people paying attention, and that's basically
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  Speaker 3: a film set, right right, right.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, that's an interesting observation.
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  Speaker 3: My you know again, my memory of it was that
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  Speaker 3: was that I'm blanking on her name, the producer of her.
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  Speaker 5: Amy Amy, because she's a good friend of a friend
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  Speaker 5: of mine and I always want to call her by
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  Speaker 5: my friend's wife's name, which.
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  Speaker 3: Is a strange sort of fluidian thing. But Amy Amy
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  Speaker 3: is you know one of those people that doesn't let
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  Speaker 3: a fly go by her eye without you know, noticing
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  Speaker 3: what color jacket it has. You know, she's very, very
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  Speaker 3: attentive to detail. And the thing you realize around being
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  Speaker 3: really about being around really creative people is they have
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  Speaker 3: a remarkable eye for detail. It's almost like being with
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  Speaker 3: a to take the fly analogy to turn it around,
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  Speaker 3: it's like being with an insect that has this amazing
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  Speaker 3: ability to see everything.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: So there, you know, nothing goes unnoticed. Sorry, go ahead,
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  Speaker 3: and in a similar vibe, let's say to working my
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  Speaker 3: experience with working with John Hughes or something, or even
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  Speaker 3: Guermo del Toro. I mean, when you're working with people
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  Speaker 3: that are sort of at the top of the game,
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  Speaker 3: pretty offing good, right.
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  Speaker 1: So you have so many TV and film credits, it's
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  Speaker 1: it took a while to get through the entire list.
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  Speaker 3: Me too, just reading them.
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  Speaker 1: Is the breakfast club uh more often the role you
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  Speaker 1: get recognized for.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's funny, it depends on the and I'm
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  Speaker 3: not being facetious, but it depends on how I look,
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  Speaker 3: or the day of the week, whatever, how I look
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  Speaker 3: more than anything. I mean sometimes if I've been if
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  Speaker 3: my hair is longer, if I'm maybe heavier, you know,
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  Speaker 3: putting on a roll for Raging Bull or something. People
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  Speaker 3: recognize me from Seinfeld too, the sniffing to either Seinfeld
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  Speaker 3: or the Breakfast Club or some John Hughes variant, which
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  Speaker 3: I'm lucky, you know, I'm I'm happy to be recognized.
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  Speaker 3: There are actors I have met and ones that I
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  Speaker 3: have known totally escapes an me. What's going on in
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  Speaker 3: their heads when they get recognized. They get angry. It's like, really,
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  Speaker 3: my dad, I say that quite often. My dad had
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  Speaker 3: a small clothing store. And whenever I'm recognized, which is
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  Speaker 3: fairly frequently or infrequently whatever, you know, not to but
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  Speaker 3: you know, it happens. I they're immediately they're in my store, right,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they're all of a sudden, you're a customer
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  Speaker 3: in my clothing store. And like, you know, I have
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  Speaker 3: no reason not to be nice to people that all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, I saw you in something.
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  Speaker 3: It's like that. But again, there are other performers that
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  Speaker 3: I behave otherwise and it's a total head scratch to
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  Speaker 3: me why they do that. But that is not my
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  Speaker 3: m O. That's not how I'm wired. But it's most
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  Speaker 3: often I think Breakfast Club or I don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there are lots of people that have never
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  Speaker 3: seen the movie. You know, you meet there are fourteen,
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  Speaker 3: fifteen year olds, ten year olds, you know, twenty five
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  Speaker 3: year olds, thirty year olds that you know, that's an
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  Speaker 3: old movie to them.
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  Speaker 1: Man, right, what do you remember about filming that movie?
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  Speaker 1: And I was over forty years ago, what do you
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  Speaker 1: remember filming that?
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  Speaker 3: I remember a lot about that film because it was
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  Speaker 3: a seminal experience and it was, you know, one of
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  Speaker 3: the very first I had just done. I done miamif
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  Speaker 3: ice don't think I had even done.
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  Speaker 1: Myne No, I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 1: You did Thief, and I think Breakfast Club right after that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I had done a small, unremarkable turn in
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  Speaker 3: Tutsie and right, well that's a whole different story, right,
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  Speaker 3: that was not in the credits, and I protested that
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  Speaker 3: beginning you they Dustin and Billy Dot it was. I
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  Speaker 3: think Breakfast Club was was was rememorable because I was
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  Speaker 3: replacing an actor and they had been in there for
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  Speaker 3: a long time, and I had done a film before
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  Speaker 3: that with John sixteen Candles, and he had told me
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  Speaker 3: before that, oh, you're going to do the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I got this part in this movie. And
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  Speaker 3: then I saw in the trade papers that they were
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  Speaker 3: doing the movie and I went, oh, well, I guess
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  Speaker 3: that ship has sailed. And then literally the next day
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  Speaker 3: after I saw it in the papers, they I got
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  Speaker 3: a call up saying that they've changed their mind with
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  Speaker 3: regards to Rick Moranis, who was playing the part, and
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  Speaker 3: was that right? Yeah, he had been cast and they
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  Speaker 3: shot for several days and Rick wanted to play the
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  Speaker 3: character as a Russian guy with thick accent and lots
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  Speaker 3: of gold teeth and big lot of keys between his legs,
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  Speaker 3: and John said, well, you know, actually the character was,
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  Speaker 3: you know, went to the school, and that's not the
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  Speaker 3: way we see it. So they really, you know, had
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  Speaker 3: a party of the waves, and that was fortuitous for me.
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  Speaker 3: And I've never met nor talked to Rick Moranis about this,
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  Speaker 3: so you know, he's had a wonderful career and he's
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  Speaker 3: a great actor. So I was happy to pick up
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  Speaker 3: the crumbs. And I had been in New York working
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  Speaker 3: at the Village Gate and was second City at the time,
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  Speaker 3: So flew back into Chicago and shot for whatever eight days,
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  Speaker 3: five days, eight days and the Vectors Club, and it
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  Speaker 3: was a little bit like showing up. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: coming into a classroom in the middle of a semester
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  Speaker 3: and he knows one another. It's like I'm the new kid.
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  Speaker 3: But a lot of my I mean a lot of
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  Speaker 3: my career is like that. You know, I show up
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  Speaker 3: on a TV show and then you know, I did
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  Speaker 3: Justified and they've shot five seasons and you know, I'm
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  Speaker 3: coming on as a guest so's you're always kind of
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  Speaker 3: an interloper when you're a guest actor.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of get used to that. And you know, similar
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  Speaker 3: with Gilmore Girls. You know, you come in and as
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  Speaker 3: I only get to work with one of the main characters,
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  Speaker 3: and right, you know, you know, and I've worked on
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  Speaker 3: when I did suits, you know I did, and I've
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  Speaker 3: done a lot of That's kind of been my I want,
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  Speaker 3: I hate to say my career because I've done other stuff,
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  Speaker 3: but it's been a lot of my television career has
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  Speaker 3: been guest appearances on a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw you have a lot of one episode
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  Speaker 1: you got a forty eight episode there on what was
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  Speaker 1: that You were on the series for a while. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you were play the detective.
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  Speaker 3: Right right right?
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  Speaker 1: Forty eight episodes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was well, you know, that was
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  Speaker 3: the sort of thing you know forever Night. I credit
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  Speaker 3: you know a lot of things. It was really really
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  Speaker 3: a good experience in a lot of ways. And also
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  Speaker 3: I credit with it getting comfortable in front of a camera,
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  Speaker 3: you know, hitherto I mean when you talk about Thief
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  Speaker 3: and when I think about TOUTSI and those early experiences,
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  Speaker 3: even Miami Vice, when I worked on that, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: really really wasn't too savvy with what the camera was.
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  Speaker 3: So if the camera was over my shoulder and it's
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  Speaker 3: shooting the person in front of me, you know where
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  Speaker 3: the computer is or where you are. If I tilt
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  Speaker 3: my head a little bit, then I'm blocking. So you
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  Speaker 3: have to be aware of the lens they've got and
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  Speaker 3: what they're shooting out tight they are and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And on Miami Vice, I had a little experience where
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  Speaker 3: Don Johnson got a little bit ticked off at me
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  Speaker 3: because he thought I was messing with this close up
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  Speaker 3: when in fact I had no idea what the lens was.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever think that those movies that John Hughes
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  Speaker 1: films would blow up the way they have.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. I mean to answer this in
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  Speaker 3: the long lens. When my dad, when I first told
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  Speaker 3: my dad I was going to be an actor, my
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  Speaker 3: dad was kind of you know, he was a good
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  Speaker 3: guy who was intelligent, and he had he had a
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  Speaker 3: bit of a futuristic view. He said, you know, John,
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  Speaker 3: not a bad choice because there's going to be more
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  Speaker 3: room for there's going to be more room for entertainment
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  Speaker 3: in the future, leisure time, I thought, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: he was right. So my hope in the early eighties,
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  Speaker 3: you know, cable was burgeoning, and my thought when I
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  Speaker 3: did the movie is like, god, I hope they show
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  Speaker 3: this on cable. You know. That was my immediate Like
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  Speaker 3: they hope that you know, there's this new thing called cable.
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  Speaker 3: It was nineteen eighty three, Like, I just hope that
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  Speaker 3: shit they show this on you know, cable TV, and
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  Speaker 3: maybe you know, they'll show the movie there as well
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  Speaker 3: as in the movie themes. But to answer your question,
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  Speaker 3: whenever anybody, you know, and I was twenty seven when
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  Speaker 3: I did The Breakfast Club twenty whatever, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: always think, God, I hope that this is going to be,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a member forever. And as Woody Allen I
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  Speaker 3: read recently said, you know, nothing's going to be remembered forever.
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  Speaker 3: You know. That's so as much as I thought this
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  Speaker 3: is going to do well after sixteen Candles with John Hughes,
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  Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, you know, this guy's got some juice
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  Speaker 3: in this biss you know, and there was a vibe
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  Speaker 3: around him that, you know, things were happening, so thought,
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  Speaker 3: but I had no real idea my experience when I
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  Speaker 3: first saw the movie, The Breakfast Club was in a
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  Speaker 3: suburban theater in Chicago with an audience. There's a beautiful theater,
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  Speaker 3: a huge theater filled with teenagers, and I sat in
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  Speaker 3: the middle of that and I went, Holy shit, is
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: this is It was like being in the middle of
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: a wave, right, It's sort of like a Holy Moly.
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  Speaker 3: And that's when I thought, Wow, this movie's got some power.
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  Speaker 3: Little did I know, and you know, the movie's got
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: issues in terms of, you know, there are some things
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: with it that that are not perfect, but you know,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: teenage years are not perfect, and slutshaming and all that
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: stuff will continue to go on regardless of people thinking
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: it's incorrect, which it is. But you know, behavior will
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: not stop. Bad behavior will not stop, or marginal behavior.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: So you know what happens with me with the movie
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: is that it happened to me when you know a
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: lot of my friends had kids they were younger. Now
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: it's happening to me with my friends grandkids. Is you know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: some kid will be born and it'll blubber till the
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: age of three or four, and then I'll I'll know
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: it till the age of nine or ten, and all
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, my friend will pull me said, Hey,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: my son Jeff just turned thirteen and saw The Breakfast
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Club and now wants to speak to you, like, all
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, I haven't been on the map for
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: fourteen years. With my friends kids and then all of
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: a sudden, you know, they go, I just saw this movie,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: you know, John, you know, and that's when the movie
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: sort of all of a sudden, I go, wow, you know,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: it's kind of a coming at age thing. And I
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: know this is a long answer for you, but you know,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: when I grew up in the sixties, the movies for
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: teenagers were shit for the most part. I mean, there
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: was Disney stuff and all the stuff that was like,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: you know, supposed to speak to you, like generational stuff.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: There's this movie Wild in the Streets. It was they
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: talked down. They were written by old guys in la
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: that had no idea how to talk to teenagers. And
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: that was John Hughes's appeal because John Hughes basically said,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: he one of my analogies. He was kind of like
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: the hip Arlie Brown and that, you know, the adults
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: were all and he was just talking to yeah, teenagers
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: for better for worse.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Interesting. What are you working on now?
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Boom boom? Interesting, I've managed to I'm working on the
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: soap opera. I just finished a round, right. I saw
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: that days of our lives have been playing this Greek
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: character named Constantine. I came on, did one episode last year.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Then John John Aniston sadly died and they decided to
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: bring my character back and make him a real thing
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: and an experience. And it's probably coming to an end soon.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of work and a lot of page
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of pages per day.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm glad you're you know, you know
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: it's I never condescended the work. It's a soap, right,
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: so it's got it's its own meat him. But man,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: oh man, it has been challenging, and a lot of
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: the actors on the show are quick to tell me.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: You know, there are a lot of actors that have
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: come in here and just run kicking and screaming and
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: can't do it. So I'm just happy that I can
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: All right, So we're going to do something called rapid fire.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: You ready, I'm here?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Does it doesn't mean you have to answer these questions
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: quickly that we just call it rapid fire. Don't ask
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: me why you can tell your time? How do you
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: like your coffee?
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: It's a bit strong, but I kind of like it.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Are you team Logan, Team Jess or team Dean? If
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you know what that means?
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Logan Paul.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Logan on the show?
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Because I had kids that liked Logan Paul many years
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: ago and I found it, I would say team Logan.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, who's your favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Laureli are Emily and Richard, Luke and Laura? Would you
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: rather work with Michelle or Kirk?
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Well, Michelle, what.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Would you order at Luke's Diner?
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Uh? Now, this is the one where I'm like you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: I grew up in Greek restaurants. Good choice.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Would you rather hang out with Paris or Lane Lane,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Harvard or Yale? Or drop out and live in a poolhouse?
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm my brother went to Harvard and Yale?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, nor what was it? What is it? Or
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: drop out and live in a poolhouse?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Right, because that's what Rory did?
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, No, No, I don't I want to. I
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: don't approve it. I dropped out once many years and
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: as an adult. Now now, okay, I have to.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Read, so Harvard gets the nod?
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Would you rather attend daar event with Emily or a
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: town meeting with Taylor?
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'd rather go to a dar event. I'd want
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: to check that out. Okay, that would be all right.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I'd have to be muzzled. I agree. I agree.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I've been in those town hall meetings. They're hot, sweaty
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: places that take all data.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Shoot.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls characters, gill More Girl characters that you would
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: want as a roommate.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Do I really have to choose? You do?
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: John? Yes? You too?
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: You must of all of them?
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Just one, just one, Laura, okay, something in your life
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: you are all in on what something in your life
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: you are all in on? Parkins back to the scene
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: where Luke says he's all in with Laurel I with
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: the relationship. I'm in. I'm all in, hence the name
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: of the podcast.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: So what are you all in?
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: It sounds like if you want to live with Laurel I,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: then you're all in on Laurel I too, and we
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: have a common goal.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm all in on that. But yeah,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: let's leave it at that, because that's that's that's just
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: straining my Okay, it's what time is. It's ten o'clock
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: in the morning here, Okay, I'm gonnagund.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: And what am I doing to you so early? That's funny, John,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much for your time.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: Bye, dot.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Hey, everybody to forget.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at I Am All In Podcast
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.