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- 0:00I was scrolling through Twitter today x whatever it is that we have to call
- 0:04it, and I came across a tweet that I found to be pretty interesting.
- 0:09It was a quote tweet and what it was quote tweeting was a post
- 0:13that was put out by the Canadian Center on Substance Use and Addiction to picture
- 0:18and there is a pill bottle on one side of this of the image that
- 0:21says you keep this away from kids. On the other side is a picture
- 0:25of a gummy bear with a THCHC warning label that kind of which you would
- 0:30see on cannabis packaging in the country, and it says why treat edibles differently?
- 0:35Again suggesting why would you not keep away your cannabis edibles that look like
- 0:41gummy bears from kids. This is all incredibly interesting because that gummy bear would
- 0:48be illegal in Canada to sell it through any of our illegal cannabis stores through
- 0:54the provincial wholesalers. Joining me right now to discuss is the international editor for
- 0:59MJ Bisiness Daily, Matt Lamers. Hey, Matt, this is not great
- 1:04that the Canadian Center on Substance Use and Addiction are putting out something that's so
- 1:08misleading. Yeah, well, thanks for having me John, I appreciate it.
- 1:14First of all, you know their message is correct. You know,
- 1:15if you have cannabis edibles at home, whether they're illegal or legal, you
- 1:19got to keep them out of the reach of children because they can't tell the
- 1:22difference their kids. Right, So the message is right, keep your keep
- 1:26your cannabis dash out of the reach of people who aren't old enough to consume
- 1:30it, young people, people who are under under eighteen. But their mistake
- 1:36was using a picture of an edible like you said, that's illegal to buy
- 1:38and that has multiple problems. First of all, you know this is this
- 1:42this isn't a business concern, this is kind of a public health concern,
- 1:47right, So the risk profile for illegal cannabis edibles is significantly higher than legal
- 1:53edibles because illegal ones can be up to two hundred times stronger than legal ones.
- 2:00In the legal market, you'll get a package of cannabis edibles that can't
- 2:02be more than ten milligrams of THHC. In illegal market, I've seen packages
- 2:09that have two thousand, three thousand, four thousand, or even five thousand
- 2:15milligrams of THHC in one package. So substantially it's really really dangerous. A
- 2:21child consumes that and they're in big trouble. Right, So their message is
- 2:24right, if you have cannabis, you have to keep it out of the
- 2:27research children. But one of the main problems I see here is that people
- 2:30still don't They still can't tell the difference between an illegal edible and illegal edible.
- 2:37And I think, in my opinion, five years after legalization, this
- 2:39is something that should be very easy for people to figure out, especially public
- 2:44health experts, especially journalists people like that, should be able to identify illegal
- 2:50versus legal cannabis products because it's actually very easy. Well, and you know,
- 2:53I don't think that any government, quite frankly, that would get elected
- 2:58is going to go in reverse cannabis legalization of this point. There's too much
- 3:00money that's been invested into it, there's too many players, and you know,
- 3:02going backwards doesn't make any sense here. But this kind of a post
- 3:07that's put out here by again, you know, a very credible organization that
- 3:09is regularly quoted throughout the media, that is a you know, a public
- 3:13health organization, Canadian Center on Substance Use and Addiction. The issue here is
- 3:17that this does in a way undermine legalization because people are going to walk away
- 3:23seeing this if they're already you know, underinformed on this issue, becoming misinformed
- 3:29on this issue and thinking, wow, you know what, maybe they did
- 3:30screw up when they were legalizing cannabis. How come they did make it so
- 3:34it was so appealing to kids, right? And I think you even see
- 3:38that reflected in a lot of incorrect reporting that you see in Canada with regards
- 3:43to cannabis edibles. A lot of the reporting in mainstream media doesn't identify illegal
- 3:49cannabis edibles in the reporting, and and they kind of framed the debate around
- 3:54has Canada made a mistake with legalizing cannabis edibles or or they or they frame
- 4:00the article around is the government enforcing the rules of on legal businesses that produce
- 4:10edibles? Or or they frame the article around are the regulation strong enough on
- 4:16legal cannabis edibles? But that's not really the issue, is it. When
- 4:19you're talking about legal versus illegal, you have to be like to be able
- 4:24to identify in illegal products. U. There's a there's a Canadian press story
- 4:29over the weekend. It was like eight hundred words long. It was about
- 4:31some children out east who unfortunately ingested a large a large portion of PhD edibles
- 4:40and they add a picture of the product, and it's clearly an illegal product,
- 4:45but it wasn't identified as such in the story. And I'm just afraid
- 4:47that people come into what regular people who read the story will exit that story
- 4:54and think that, oh, Cannada shouldn't have legalized cannabis edibles. Maybe that's
- 4:59the case, maybe it's not the case. I'm not here to debate that,
- 5:01but I just think that from a public health perspective, people need to
- 5:05be able to identify an illegal cannabis edible because they can be two hundred times
- 5:11stronger than legal ones. So it's really really important that public health communications get
- 5:17that straight. Yeah, and of course you know the fact as well that
- 5:20you can't buy a product that looks like a gummy bear. It can't be
- 5:24marketed or appealing to children whatsoever. And if you haven't bought cannabis edibles,
- 5:29Matt, why don't you explain to people briefly right now the packaging that they
- 5:32do come in, because it's a lot more akin to cigarettes than it is
- 5:35to a bottle of alcohol. Yeah, right, So well, okay,
- 5:40first with illegal and so if you see a cannabis product and it has a
- 5:44colorful, flashy packaging with a gummy with a bearon it, or an athlete,
- 5:49or with or or kind of with really exciting looking fonts, it's definitely
- 5:57illegal. Legal products have to be in plane packaging with very simple fonts,
- 6:03and they can't depict animals or people in the names or in the products.
- 6:10So that's your main clue, and the most important one is the milligram,
- 6:15the THHC limit ten milligram THHC limit. Legal products can't have more than ten
- 6:19milligrams of THC per package. Obviously, in the illegal market, they don't
- 6:25have any rules because it's illegal. So, like I said, you're you're
- 6:28talking like very commonly one thousand and two thousand milligrams of THC per package in
- 6:34the illegal market. You know, I'm such a lightweight when it comes to
- 6:38edibles. I couldn't imagine a five hundred milligram dose. I can't even imagine
- 6:44one hundred milligram dose right now. Well, yeah, imagine a child's consuming
- 6:46that. That's why it's important that educators and journalists get this right. And
- 6:49they've been getting it wrong for five years in a row, and at some
- 6:53point this has to be this has to be kind of a national issue because
- 6:58we've seen misreports reading on this from mainstream media so often in the last five
- 7:03years that it's no wonder that regular people can't figure it out. Yeah,
- 7:08it's not surprising. Hey, Matt, I really appreciate your time on this
- 7:11one. Thank you so much, and we'll keep an eye on the industry
- 7:14as it continues to evolve. As you said, I mean, we're five
- 7:16years into this experiment here, there's really no excuse for this. Yeah,
- 7:20thanks for having me, John, Thank you so much. Cheers. Matt
- 7:24Lamers is the international editor of Mjbiz Daily, which covers the cannabis industry.