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- The Finance Pastor: Hello everyone, this is Felix Garcia of the Finance Pastors Show. What an honor and a privilege it is to be welcomed into your home and welcome to episode number four. I am so excited that I have with me powerful woman of God, a business owner, serial entrepreneur, and a mighty, mighty, mighty woman of God. Please me welcome Sister Kelly ⁓ Jensen's ⁓ I so excited. Kelly, welcome to the program. Kelly Jansens Mensch: Thank you so much. Thank you for having me on the program. I'm honored. I'm honored. Thank you. The Finance Pastor: Well, I am so honored that you're on here. couple of months ago, I got to meet you and your husband, Mark, and just there was such a connection to a kindred spirit. I love what Lord is doing with you and your husband. And ⁓ there was thing that when we met, you gave me a book and little to no, this book right here, such a powerful of God's grace, God's and. I wanted to share what God is doing with you, but you are doing so many things. You're a serial entrepreneur. God has called you to the marketplace. Just share with you first, like what God is doing with you in the marketplace for those entrepreneurs that are listening to us through the podcast. Kelly Jansens Mensch: Well, I have an events company. been around and open for 25 years. And also am a personal trainer ⁓ and coach. So I got a couple of businesses running. And along this journey, I've had other businesses. I'm full of and exciting opportunities to get out there in marketplace. these businesses have taught me something, know, a little something which has prepared me for where I am today. So I, yeah, I've worked for corporations, but as an entrepreneur, that's really tough ⁓ work for someone else. Not that we can't do it, but there's always just been that fire inside me. And I believe I got that from my dad because he was ⁓ an entrepreneur and my whole family is. The Finance Pastor: Yeah, yeah. Absolutely and when you look at I always tell people that your nine to five job is usually your first investor for your other businesses usually people ask me you know when you starting all these businesses do do you get like you know flustered or Or do get a you know just do you enjoy it and I tell people actually enjoy the process More of like I become during that and I always tell I love being entrepreneur because I've started many businesses. I failed. I've done well in some and then some others I'm like what was I thinking? But that's what I love about that. But you mentioned something powerful that you talk about your dad. Your dad was very instrumental. You come from an entrepreneurial family. So you kind of had someone that kind of just kind of put the bug. I always say that into people because I'm doing that for my daughter. ⁓ want her be an entrepreneur. Kelly Jansens Mensch: You Yeah. The Finance Pastor: has that upbringing shaped your Kelly Jansens Mensch: Well, it's definitely opens your eyes to a whole different window, right? I mean, you obviously can we all need a job, right? It's a tool to make money and pay your bills. But it opened up a whole different like window for me. And my dad was an immigrant. He came over from the Netherlands and he his primary work was tile setting and carpet laying. And I just watched how hard he worked, you know, to provide for his family. ⁓ it's just, mean, it was just, you grow up around it and then sometimes become it. Right. And, when things were tough, like, especially in the seventies, you know, I remember people lining up at the gas pump and all that. I remember my dad, Okay. Sunday night, we got to go get gas and ⁓ jump in his truck and, ⁓ he, he did it took. So maybe his primary job was tile setter, carpet layer. But sometimes he'd have to take on other jobs to put food on the table. And I just admire that, that he did whatever it took and he went outside his box of business, know, wallpapering, painting, whatever he could do to provide. And I just, was just, he was just happy. He was happy doing his, his skill, his gift. And yeah, I... Again, I've worked for corporations and I can do it, but it feels like such a grind to me where when it's your own creation and your own vision, obviously you have to have strategy. it's exciting. It's rewarding, know, seeing progress ⁓ and to a living that way. just, it's in me. It's like a fire inside The Finance Pastor: And one thing that I love is that said something that most people don't do is plan. And usually I always tell people I plan my work and then I work my plan. And usually things you look at scripture and it talks about that people fail for the lack of knowledge, but also write the vision down, make it plain, make it plain so that those that see it can go run with it. And that's why I, to me, that's a business plan. And you look at throughout scripture, how God has given us clues from the, from the Kelly Jansens Mensch: Yes. Right, the vision, make it plain. Absolutely. The Finance Pastor: first five books of the Bible. I always look at we get a lot of government structure rules and regulations from the book of Leviticus. And also look at structure from the book of Numbers. God wants to count. That's where the book of Numbers you see the first census. He tells the people count the heads of the tribe and how accuracy planning and I always tell that planning as an entrepreneur is so important ⁓ because it gives you but it also gives you lose focus because like many entrepreneurs here I go so many because I got so many ideas coming in my brain and sometimes I have to understand when to say no to certain ideas ⁓ and when just focus on one. When you have type of ideas like just hey you got because a serial entrepreneur is always thinking how can I improve stuff ⁓ how do you do you like concise say how do you Kelly Jansens Mensch: Yes. I have all kinds of ideas. The Finance Pastor: just pick one. Kelly Jansens Mensch: Well, I write them down, you know, so I don't forget them like something will pop in my head. But when something continuously comes to my forethought, you know, I pray about it. Just like, this of you, God, or is this just some, you know, wacky tunnel that I'm going through because, you know, it looked appealing or whatever. So I pray about it. And I do. hear the Holy Spirit during the day. Focus, Kelly. The Finance Pastor: Okay. Kelly Jansens Mensch: focus, you know, like, because I can be like, ⁓ I got to do all these things. And, but I think, you know, you, know, the saying, you know, like do what you love. And that is so true, you know, so a fitness has always been in my, in my wheelhouse. And, now I can, you know, help other people. I've had to help myself first ⁓ and, and you know, help people that way, but then, creating events. ⁓ It kind of goes hand in hand, you know, so either creating an event for someone else or myself and then showcasing, you know, what I have to offer. But I think just being able to focus and then to hear where your is supposed to be because God will bless your work, you know, and if it's not the path that he wants you down. ⁓ most likely won't be blessed. The Finance Pastor: ⁓ look at that, I always to be sensitive to the Spirit of God because I feel like there's certain ideas are God ideas, but some of those ideas are for later. And I think that wants us to be focused on ⁓ one thing at a And, ⁓ you know, one the that I ⁓ as an entrepreneur, if you're type of person that has a lot of vision, a lot just ideas, having people around you help you stay centered. have have for like, for me, my wife is the one that kind of can, hey, the rains, K-ho, slow down, soldier. You you got too many projects going on. And I certain people in my life that could be like, hey, this is a good idea, but it's not for right now. This is something that could be done, but you're stretched out too much. So there's kind like that balance in doing that. as an event planning, what are some of the things that like build your business? Like were you more into marketing? Was it more ⁓ of mouth? How did you start building businesses? Kelly Jansens Mensch: Well, I'm coming from corporate, we'll say corporate land. I made some good and was in 2008 when things were tanking, right? The markets were going and I kind of got pushed out. ⁓ A of people were laid off and I thought to myself, like, well, I love this events thing. I'm really good at it. I'm just going to go hang my sign out there. And went back to the corporations that I'd worked for because they ⁓ scrambling. They went ⁓ large departments down to five people trying to do everything. So actually it was a perfect time, perfect season for me to go back and say, hey, I'll do this work for you on contract. would you? That's great because then they don't have to pay the health insurance and all this stuff. So it was timing for me and my my first year out man, I just I was just flying and II know that I wasn't I would say at that time, I wasn't totally walking with God but I mean I was a believer and somehow he had his hand on me ⁓ and just pushed me that direction and I was just blessed with more work that I could handle. had a harder people. ⁓ you so yeah, I I think it just The Finance Pastor: to me. Kelly Jansens Mensch: It was timing. again, I was still following my passion. I knew I was really good at this and really loved doing it. And so that's how it took off. I just kind of like the markets, right? ⁓ Timing. ⁓ The Finance Pastor: Yeah, it just took off. what I love about it is ⁓ people, and I tell people this, that sometimes out of certain that ⁓ may a little bit harsh comes beautiful ⁓ Cause think it, most people during the 2008 crash, I remember that very vividly, ⁓ there were losing their jobs left and right. mean, people going into foreclosures. And usually after, you go through tough times, God births inside Kelly Jansens Mensch: Absolutely. The Finance Pastor: of you this this unction and sometimes I tell people a as a marketplace entrepreneur it's crisis is a good thing recessions is where new businesses are birthed why ⁓ because there's who lost hope but out of the lost hope ⁓ there's problems evolve and I always tell people that your wealth found in the problem that you're able to solve and that God gives us like Kelly Jansens Mensch: Mmm, yeah. The Finance Pastor: to me is problems are a gateway to wealth because if you're an entrepreneur that could find a way how to solve someone's problem and do it cheaper and do it for more and more and more people that's a business. I mean that's why I tell people that's why this iPhone right here solves a problem for me. You so you look at Apple Corporation they created a business event planning from water distribution anything that God always provides. Kelly Jansens Mensch: you The Finance Pastor: how was it like when you were building your business and scaling? ⁓ there times when was it a straight shot up or did you have maybe times seasons where it would go down and up? Please share with our audience. Kelly Jansens Mensch: Yeah, I mean, as an entrepreneur, mean, your business isn't like going to shoot straight up to the top. mean, there's going to be some bumps along the way. You know, maybe maybe you lose a contract and you and you're always trying to fill that funnel, right? It's like, OK, I got these events lined up. OK, well, what's after that? there a couple of times where I was like, ⁓ boy, you know, and remembering what dad did, I wasn't too proud to go help someone out in their shop. you know, and was doing boards, know, that you see in the stores and you take them home to say what. So I. The Finance Pastor: I love that about entrepreneurs, especially when I see Uber drivers who are just trying to Uber drive just to follow a dream. love that. That's the true entrepreneurial spirit. It is taking those odd jobs just to make a dream happen. Kelly Jansens Mensch: Yes. You do what it takes, right? Yeah. Yeah, so there I was in a shop and I was, you know, when things were a little bit low, because I'm trying to still fill my funnel here. Yeah, I was gluing tiles to a sample board. The Finance Pastor: That is amazing. but that's probably I'm pretty sure entrepreneurs, ⁓ we come up with some interesting jobs just to fill gaps, I'm pretty sure we'll get a list about whole bunch of jobs that are kind of ⁓ out Cause I've done some stuff just to just make ends meet during low times in businesses. So I totally get that. And as Lord started increasing, you started building other businesses alongside of this one. And I know into fitness is very important to my wife and I how God has been blessing you in your and ⁓ how God been growing your clientele. a business entrepreneur, start seeing many entrepreneurs who are more getting more into fitness, into ⁓ being in a place of where they can run a company. You start seeing ⁓ I myself years ago was over 300 pounds ⁓ you know and I could see how much losing that weight really helped my stamina how has that helped how has that been a benefit for you as you build this other side of KJ fit Kelly Jansens Mensch: Oh, absolutely. I mean, again, it's been in me, you like all my life I've always, you know, worked out. But then there was a time where, know, I was going through a transition and getting a little lazy and sassy and fat and you're just not fit. I mean, it's a commandment. You know, we get one Earth suit, right, on this planet. So you got to take care of it. But if you are, you know, your body's so toxic that you're just, you know, you got the extra weight. you know, brain fog, you're just not feeling on top of your game. How can you expect excel? how, you know, how can you be on top of your game during the day for businesses when, you know, you're just, you're so toxic, you know, and again, God asks to be stewards of our bodies, right? And we only get this one chance here. And that's a you like how are you gonna finish this race? You know, is it just barely crossing the line because you're just so weighted down with, you know, whatever toxic foods, even your mind, right? Your mind. asked us to, you know, ⁓ in the word and the But I would fitness is just it's for me, it's like brushing my teeth. You know, you do it every day. It's it's a habit. It's a healthy habit. And when I you know, like get injured or whatever and I have to scale back. I'm really missing it. My is missing it. My mind is missing it. And you you're just not on your game. It's something that everybody should just move, move body, you know? The Finance Pastor: And for someone like me, like movement, would you recommend like a minute daily type of thing? what you recommend? ⁓ I to move, I always tell people I try a couple of weights here and there, but what I do on a daily basis? Kelly Jansens Mensch: you have a sedentary job, you gotta get out of your seat at least once an hour. Go to your kitchen or whatever, walk around, grab some do some air and then at least 15 minutes a intentional walking. So ⁓ everybody has a lunch break, have a lunch break. Get outdoors, just you and God, nature, walk intentionally, ⁓ And then, you know, build that up each day. You know, maybe, maybe it's, 20 minutes. Maybe you, get to a half an hour. you can get a lot done in a half an hour. If you're walking, you can talk, you can be on a call with a ⁓ You be listening to a cool podcast. So 15 minutes is like, that's minimum, but keep on building on that and walking. Anybody can do it. It's free. and just, just walk. Yeah, just walk and move. Move your body. The Finance Pastor: Do you usually have like tips and stuff that you give to your clients and stuff like that that you do? I'm probably, I'm gonna have you pull a link on here and just kind of where everyone can kind of get a touch of you if they want to maybe get a little like consultation or just even some tips and maybe some on how to keep moving on a daily basis. God is really like bringing, I believe like when I was growing up, you know, it was pervasive to see Kelly Jansens Mensch: Absolutely. The Finance Pastor: a preacher that was, you know, just out of weight, just out, just overweight. And just like, I would see that and I could start seeing how I was falling into that. It seems like the body of Christ and it's not like I'm trying to beat the body of Christ down, but there's a gluttony problem. I mean, even I myself could still lose some 20 pounds myself, but it's almost like the one sin that we don't, Kelly Jansens Mensch: Yeah. Well, congratulations to where you're at, you know? The Finance Pastor: That one sin that we are afraid to confront. Kelly Jansens Mensch: Mm-hmm. It's not talked about in the church. And do we do after church? We have cookies, donuts, and going the narthex. Yeah, it's a problem. And it's not being recognized. It's just like, that's just a little sin. But no, it's across board. A sin a sin. You're just not stewarding your body, your Earth suit that God gave you. yeah, I see ⁓ that at church. Yeah. The Finance Pastor: Yeah, I used to make fun of and this is the thing when I was a big person, to like, I used to get people, ⁓ mom used to tell me you need to lose weight, you need to lose weight. And I used to tell her, you know what, you know, you're of me. You know why? Because the body is the of the Holy Spirit. I'm just building a synagogue. Kelly Jansens Mensch: you The Finance Pastor: I used to tell her that. But when I got my bones started hurting and my knees started hurting, I was like, ⁓ I to turn this synagogue into a small little church, storefront church. ⁓ but you know, it is thing in the, and I'm one guilty of it, know, so, ⁓ but I think that my and I have these how it is like, it's ⁓ okay to look Kelly Jansens Mensch: I love that. The Finance Pastor: at other sins that's so bad. But when we look at gluttony in the churches, like it's hidden. It's like, it's OK. You know, it's a little bit of food. But sometimes it's ⁓ the disease. You have that go to the grave so early because heart disease, ⁓ because they, you the ⁓ I have a that died so young. But then you look what they were eating, the fried chicken, all this stuff. And I live in the where Kelly Jansens Mensch: Yeah. The Finance Pastor: everything is smothered and covered and lard and everything. So like I think that God does want a fit body. And I always tell that it is, it is. And as crazy as this sounds, now as I'm older, I'm going be 49 this year, but I look at how Kelly Jansens Mensch: Yeah, it's tough. He does. It's it's a commandment. The Finance Pastor: even from a spiritual standpoint, like I look at someone and I'm saying to myself, if you're this obese, do I, I can tell that you're not fasting. I could, then how can I trust that you're hearing from God? And I think that way and I'm like, you and I'm like, I look at that, like, ⁓ you that's something that we have to address in the church. ⁓ We every single sin that there is, except that one. Kelly Jansens Mensch: Yep, absolutely. The Finance Pastor: So I think that that's pervasive in the kingdom. want to transition a little bit of little bit about this wonderful book. And if guys have not gotten this book, I'm going to put a link on this on this website on this blog and. Not only has God just made an entrepreneur, but God has done an amazing work in your life. The when I read this book, I couldn't put it down. It was so of God's love, God's grace. just love us in difficult seasons in our life. And I you to take a couple of minutes ⁓ just share what has done in your life. And just for those that are who maybe have maybe gone through a similar in their life, how was God instrumental during that and has he been instrumental even after? Just share, share with us, Mr. Cesar Kelly. Kelly Jansens Mensch: Well, he turned my life around. All of my life I've been a believer in a religious sense. I really didn't know the character of God. I'm still learning this character, but I didn't really know what it meant to have a relationship through Jesus to the Father God and the Holy Spirit. I didn't understand all that. I just thought that life was like a checklist. Be a good person. who you know, blah, blah. And this incident that I write about in my book, it happened many years ago. And again, I, you know, pretty much felt like I was a rock star on top of the world. You know, my businesses, my event business was going great, you know, lots of friends, I was very social, but I wasn't really walking on God's path, you know, it was kind of. walking on Kelly's path, know, ⁓ God here and there. So I a lot for my business. I wasn't home ⁓ much. I living by myself and with companion, ⁓ Bodie Dog, no longer here on this earth, but my little black lab. And I started to a gentleman ⁓ on Twitter, which is X. in back, many years ago that was like a new thing. was more popular than the Facebooks and in all the other social media platforms. So I was very naive, but I would like check into convention centers and say, ⁓ I'm at this convention center. I like this movie. I love dogs. Well, there was this person that was following me and he liked everything I liked. And I'm like, ⁓ this is cool, you know, and going through day like, ⁓ this is great. And then he moved the ⁓ public communication into the inbox, the messenger, started talking to me there. And again, I wasn't really picking up on anything. I'm just like, okay. And he's like, wow, we're in the same ⁓ should meet up. And I'm like, you know, okay. And again, wasn't looking to date anyone. I wasn't looking for any romantic relationship. I thought in my head, well, you know, when I'm home, it might be nice to have company at dinner or whatever. So that's what my thoughts were. And we exchanged pictures we never talked on the phone, never talked on video call or anything like that. And ⁓ I agreed to meet at a park. I'd been traveling, traveling, traveling. I was only home that month for like three days. And I said, well, let's ⁓ meet up, I'm going to take my dog. You know, I, I've been traveling. I don't want to leave him at home. I've left him long enough. Okay. No, no problem. So we show up at this park and he got out of his truck and he looked nothing. ⁓ like the picture, he looked much older than the picture he sent me. And I'm like, there was a little gut check. I'm like, okay, that's weird. And he was a little goofy. I mean, he was probably trying to impress me, you know, throwing fetch with the ball. And then he says, well, he goes, would you like to go, we were there for, I don't know, 40 minutes or something. He goes, you want to go across the street and get some snacks and drinks? And I'm like, you know, I guess so. And being the nice person, I'm like, I kind of was like, I just want to go home. I've been traveling and. And, ⁓ no, went across the street and as a respectable, ⁓ responsible dog owner, was a cool fall day. windows were down in my car. everything was fine. so we'd been there talking ⁓ and, I a glass of wine I, there was some snacks and, I went to the ladies room. I left everything on the table. You know, my purse, my key, you know, everything, I don't know. I was just very trusting and naive. I went to the bathroom. came back. And the last thing I remember him saying to me was, boy, we've been here a while. We should probably get going. I don't remember anything past that. And I just woke up the next day to not knowing how I got home, what happened. It felt like someone hit me with a sledgehammer over my head. I knew that someone was in my house because I had lived alone. There was just things out of place. And Rolling forward to that next morning, I checked to if my car was in the garage. Yep, it was, but the whole front passenger window was smashed and there was blood on it. And I'm like, ⁓ my gosh, did I hit a deer? I mean, I'm in Michigan, so that's quite common to hit a deer. And so anyways, going, rolling it's just a long story and many twists and turns. There was a person that was killed. by my house and car matched up to the car that hit person and killed this person. So I had to hire a lawyer. I'd been in trouble before and it was a nightmare. And this person that I'd met out, couldn't be in contact with him. I texted him like, what happened, what happened? ⁓ And then I'm in my lawyer's car and I'm telling him like, can't get a hold of this guy that I was with. Like he's got to know something. Well, he called me from his number, the number that I did not have. He had given me a Google number, not his real number. So like things are just not lining up. And he started talking to me and he's like, well, he goes, I see you've been trying to get a of me. like, yeah. I go, what happened last night? Well, what do you mean? And then my lawyer took my phone and said, okay, time out. And he says, you're not to talk to her. You know, the police will be contacting you, blah, Well, rolling forward a little bit more, I ended up taking full responsibility for this person that had died. he, the person that I had met out, this guy, he got off scot-free and ended up going to jail. I was sentenced for 12 months in the county jail, which again, like, mean, I've gotten some speeding tickets, but I've never, never been in trouble with the law. And, um, yeah, I had to hire a lawyer. fired my first lawyer, got a new lawyer. Cause my dad and I, my dad was on this journey with me too. And we didn't know what we were doing. Um, so it, it, uh, yeah, I got out, um, for good behavior. five months, thank God. And I out, I just, I was very shameful. I felt lot of guilt. I had been this socialite, you know, events person. I just felt like everybody was talking about me. I felt like my life was over, basically. I'm like, but God, God blessed me. I my business did so well. ⁓ The Finance Pastor: Absolutely. I mean, and you look at it and you know, from like a recap, I mean, you were drugged, you know, and that's the thing is you were drugged. that's one of the things that I mean, as a father, having a daughter, you know, that's one of those things that I that's becoming more pervasive of people just really like they call it the date rape drug. I mean, it's kind of let's call it what it is. And a lot of that stuff is people have to be Cognizant of even the drinks like that and especially in a setting like that when you're meeting someone Like I've always said like that stuff is it's something that could have happened to anyone so you know that part of you know, I'm looking at that you you were really knocked out like you you are unconscious of what was going on and a lot of it is Someone was trying to take advantage. Let's call it what it is. They were trying to take advantage manage of you and up in a tragic situation. But through this, as I was reading the book, I saw how God's grace during the trial, even when you, ⁓ you got out, one the things that I got of your book that was so powerful that once you got out, you had someone show up in your driveway. Kelly Jansens Mensch: stuff. The Finance Pastor: And it was the gentleman's father that killed. And of the things, I'm going read what you put in the book. I've got put my glasses up on this one. Kelly Jansens Mensch: Yeah. The Finance Pastor: He says, I miss my son every day. He said, I want you to continue with your life. And when I read that simple, that simple just sentence, I mean, for me, like, I almost felt like some of the weight was lifted. And that part of the book really, like, after all this is done, I mean, because there was some trial stuff that went through and this person never took responsibility, but like. that even in the place of adversity, God still shows grace. ⁓ part of the book, just like, whoa, I mean, when I read this, was like, I had to highlight, I was like, ⁓ wow. Because from a feeling standpoint inside, was like. Kelly Jansens Mensch: Yes, he does. ⁓ The Finance Pastor: That would give me, I'm not saying it would absolve me, but it would give me some relief that, hey, that there's forgiveness. And I, there's nothing greater than, I mean, this man, I mean, there's no greater forgiveness than this. That's a. Kelly Jansens Mensch: No, mean, I, yeah, definitely throughout this whole thing, God was always there. Again, I wasn't really walking. The of my book is Under Outside God's Umbrella, because I was working, walking outside his protection, right? And ⁓ when Christian mean that, you know, bad things do happen to good people, but it's how you go through it. And I feel like I another chance, ⁓ like Why didn't I die? I another chance to help people and let them know that God is a of second and third and fourth, a hundred chances, like you just have to lay it down. And ⁓ I was of everything, of who I thought I was, but now I know who I am in Christ and I have a relationship with Him now. And it wasn't just like instant. ⁓ The Finance Pastor: Okay. It was several years. I was reading the book. was several years of God healing you. was several years of just, you you ⁓ over. You started from zero. And ⁓ of things is that how, even though many would have this and said, my life is over, it almost seemed like it brought purpose to your life. Kelly Jansens Mensch: Yeah, man. The Finance Pastor: I met you ⁓ can see that when you live you live on purpose Kelly and I see when met you and your husband Mark it almost like ⁓ my gosh I could tell there's something different about you because you this like you living on purpose as All this to pass and and you see yourself what? Getting out, you getting of jail. What was that that that? that journey to where you are now. still went back into the entrepreneurial, ⁓ also God is opening up doors for you with this ⁓ And just a message redemption and just how just really for every little detail and he cares about us and please share. Kelly Jansens Mensch: Yeah, God loves you so much. That was one of the things that when I did go to some counseling at my church one of the first things, and it's in the book, I met a gentleman that does ministry and ⁓ he was prison. The first thing says to me goes, you know what? He says, God wants you to know that he loves you. I lost it. Like I'm thinking. How he love me? How can anyone love me? You know, where at. But he does. And he's a of, ⁓ like I second, third chances. And he has a purpose for everyone. Everyone has a story, maybe not as extreme as mine, but he has a purpose and he's pushed me on this new trail. But it stripped me right down to who I thought I was, my identity. And now my identity is found in Christ. I was not going to write this book. I was very ashamed and still dealing with the guilt and people thought of me. That was another thing. I was always a pleaser and what do people think of me? It's like, now what does God think of you, right? That's where you need to be is ⁓ does God think? Because all these people don't matter. At the end of this life, you're gonna be standing before Jesus. ⁓ whether you're believer or not. you have to take an account, account your life, right? ⁓ But yeah, I had to start over and my slowly but it took a long time. just to know that like, God really loves you. He really you. And it just, yeah, it's just, it was a huge, huge turning point. The Finance Pastor: Amen. It is. Amen. Kelly Jansens Mensch: to where I'm at today. And he's not finished with me. still have so much to work through. ⁓ The Finance Pastor: He's definitely not finished. No, no, he's definitely not finished. And I'm definitely going to put the link our viewers can get book. You got to read this book. It's a great read of just God's mercy and grace. And it it just see I can see in you. How just you're living purpose like you're living for purpose. And one of the things, Kelly, that it's unique about your story is that can relate to people that a person like myself wouldn't be able to relate to. mean, story can transcend ⁓ to where maybe the average church person can't minister to. What would you say to someone who's gone through something that maybe they ⁓ feel or felt like maybe their is over? What would you say? What kind of hope message would you give to that person. Kelly Jansens Mensch: ⁓ there is hope. And don't do it alone. ⁓ number one, go to God and then seek professional help, you know, whether it's at your church or, you some good counseling and your community, you know, your friends, your family. And if you don't have and family, you know, start with God. He'll put the right people ⁓ in your life. And yeah, just definitely just seek some help. You know, talk to somebody, have somebody that you're accountable for. Because that made a difference for me, you know, because your mom and dad will always say that you love. ⁓ I love you. It's like could you just like what I was saying to God, I'm like, how can you love me and my mom? And we love you. We're proud of you. Like you're proud of me. Are you serious? So you got to to the source. Go God. The Finance Pastor: Yeah. Kelly Jansens Mensch: and then get some help. And a lot of times at churches, counseling is free. So it's that you can't afford it, there's always going to be someone or an organization that can ⁓ help The Finance Pastor: Absolutely, and I love that and I see how how God is using you I just see your social media how God is just moving you and opening up doors for you. I really love the Just the the the way God is just weaving your story And you're right. He's not done with you I just see how God is just ministering and using your story to impact people not only in the marketplace because you're a phenomenal business owner, but but you can see how God is just using that and definitely takes for ashes and he does that. As we start this time, would you like to share with the audience? If they want to get a of you, I'm definitely going to put a link on that, but what would you love to share with audience that they know about you or if you have a message that maybe God has placed on in your heart that you would like to share with the people. do that. Kelly Jansens Mensch: would say don't give up. Don't think that your life is over. I because I was there too. I'm just like, what's left to live here? And I'm glad I'm here in the living because God brought a wonderful man into my life. And he is the person that got me back to church. And he put me, kind of give me that pivot point to... pushed me on the path that I need to be on. And I got a bonus son, I got a step son. again, Bodie's no longer here, my black lab, but we're actually right here. I'd have my new shelter pup, Maverick. And life is good. we're all here for a purpose. And it's not just to make a bunch of money and have a lot of experiences and travel. Because the end of this life, mean, we're all in this together, right? And we're supposed to help out our brothers and sisters and help out pray for those that, you know, maybe are really hard to be or, ⁓ you maybe they have opposite thoughts of you, but we're put to move people forward. But don't give up. And adversity, it makes you tougher. It just makes you tougher. And don't do it on your own will. you know, that's, would, fiercely independent. I still am. But I cannot do this life without God. Because when I try to do it without him, I get in some big trouble. it's, I mean, this this incident was huge, but I see along the way going back, you know, that man, if I would have walked on God's path, this this wouldn't have happened or this would have been so much better doing it with him. with the universe, the the god of the universe. Come on, know, like, God loves you, you know? He created you. The Finance Pastor: Amen. Amen. Amen. Absolutely. And the way God is using you and Mark in this season and this hour is I love seeing it. And I just, got to meet so many great people the weekend that I met you guys. I still stay in contact with them. And as entrepreneur, just ⁓ to... Kelly Jansens Mensch: you. The Finance Pastor: I always tell people I love ministry. God doing many things, but sometimes ministry is always outside of the four walls of the church. And I say that our vocation is our ministry. And sometimes the that we do outside of the four walls of church is the ministry that God called us into. And I see how God using your book, how God is using your businesses, ⁓ KJ fit. ⁓ If they want find you social media. media, but just how God is just using this story that many people could have said, ⁓ it's over. But when God is in the equation, ever over. God has the last word. Kelly Jansens Mensch: Nothing too impassable The Finance Pastor: He's looked throughout scripture through many stories in the Bible how many missteps God actually used for his glory and and I always tell people that that God doesn't waste anything and And and the the people who God has or a tribe They're gonna find us and I hope that God continues to bless you and Mark Kelly and I hope you guys in the audience enjoy this episode this is one of my favorite ones hope to you guys click the link and follow any of the stories here and I'll to you guys next time God bless you guys