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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 205 | Discussing Jaguars Playoff Berth, Reviewing Win in Denver · Jags A.M.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great team effort.
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Speaker 2: Just thankful that you know, a small market team like
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Speaker 2: us can come into a place like Mile High and
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Speaker 2: get it done.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to jag Zam.
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Speaker 4: It's a small market show to talk about your favorite
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Speaker 4: football team that's now playoff found. I'm Kindannie Stephens, Brian Text,
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Speaker 4: and John Oser with us today and there's a whole
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Speaker 4: lot to talk about after a huge win in Denver
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Speaker 4: over the weekend, and now things are official as the
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Speaker 4: Jaguars are headed to the playoffs. So let's start off
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Speaker 4: with our big Things for you today, brought to you
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Speaker 3: Big Thing number one has to be clinched.
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Speaker 4: Brian things, we'd ninety nine point something something percent sure
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Speaker 4: before Monday Night Football after the Colts last the forty
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Speaker 4: nine ers, Jaguars are heading to the postseason.
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Speaker 1: Listen back to little antic climactic because I think everybody
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Speaker 1: around here has realize that this is a playoff team.
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Speaker 1: But it's earlier than twenty twenty two, John, when they
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Speaker 1: had to go all the way to the season finale
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Speaker 1: against the Tennessee Titans to knock this one down. I
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Speaker 1: think what's interesting is is that they've clinched it in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. But I think all of us can
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Speaker 1: see that this will be a playoff team going forward,
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Speaker 1: that what they're building here is substantial, that it's sustainable,
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Speaker 1: and that it's something that this year. Well, it's a
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Speaker 1: story that we're going to watch and tell and there
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Speaker 1: is no possible ending. It's all in front of them.
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Speaker 5: Look, when you follow this as long as we have,
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Speaker 5: you clinch when you get a chance to clinch, because
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Speaker 5: this is a weird league, so you get in. I
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Speaker 5: thought it was cool that they clinched on the weekend
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Speaker 5: where they turned in their biggest, most significant victory.
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Speaker 6: It felt like they earned it.
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Speaker 5: It certainly felt like a playoff clinching statement thing on Sunday. So, yeah,
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Speaker 5: they're in for the ninth time, and I think they're
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Speaker 5: in with the best team and the best chance they've
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Speaker 5: had in over twenty five years.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, let's go to our second big thing, which is
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Speaker 4: a huge win in Denver. So believe the hype. We
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Speaker 4: talked a lot about maybe not a lot of national
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Speaker 4: people not believing in the deck where it's going into
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Speaker 4: this game. They don't care about that, obviously, but Trevor
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Speaker 4: Lawrence certainly doesn't care about it. He's been dealing out
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Speaker 4: probably his best month of football we've seen so far,
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Speaker 4: and his teammates are buying it as well.
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Speaker 7: I mean, I guess the numbers don't lie. I mean,
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Speaker 7: he's doing a great job. But we always knew that
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Speaker 7: he could do this, and he's playing confident. I mean,
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Speaker 7: when somebody's confidence, there's nothing you can do about that guy.
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Speaker 1: You can know, nothing you can do about that.
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Speaker 7: Man that's confident, raid to role, trusting his teammates and
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Speaker 7: just we've been making plays for him and that just
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Speaker 7: keeps that going, and we just want to keep rolling
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Speaker 7: with that.
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Speaker 4: Orka Washington had a career day, but the guy thrown
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Speaker 4: him excuse me, the guy throwing him. The football has
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Speaker 4: been having a month as I've been talking about John,
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Speaker 4: and seems like he's only getting better.
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Speaker 3: By the week.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I finally figured out where I put my hat.
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Speaker 5: Sor Hunter had him post.
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Speaker 1: Look.
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Speaker 5: Trevor has been probably too criticized early this year, So
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Speaker 5: to say that he has come out of nowhere and
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Speaker 5: all of a sudden has gone from bad to good
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Speaker 5: is not true. But the way that he is ascending
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Speaker 5: I have believed all along he could get there. I
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Speaker 5: didn't think he would get there as quickly and as impressively.
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Speaker 6: He's in the MVP conversation.
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Speaker 5: I don't think he'll get it because I think Matt
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Speaker 5: Stafford will still get it. But you can't have a
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Speaker 5: conversation without him. This is a good team, it's an
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Speaker 5: ascending team. But Brian, the reason they've got a shot
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Speaker 5: at this YEP is because of Trevor Lawrence.
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Speaker 1: Well, let me take it a slightly different direction because
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Speaker 1: a lot has been said over the last few weeks
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Speaker 1: about the way that Trevor has been playing. This is
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Speaker 1: the best offense in Jaguar's history, no doubt. They are
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Speaker 1: scoring twenty seven points a game, which is more than
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Speaker 1: two thousand and seven ten in two thousand and seven,
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Speaker 1: which were the other two teams that scored more than
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Speaker 1: four hundred points in a season. Look, they don't have
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith's hundred and sixteen catches in sixteen hundred yards,
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Speaker 1: or Fred Taylor's seventeen touchdowns, or Maurice Jones Drew's sixteen
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Speaker 1: hundred yards which led the NFL. They don't have that
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Speaker 1: superlative star performance in terms of numbers around him because
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Speaker 1: he's distributing the balls so well, everybody's getting a piece
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Speaker 1: of the pie. But this offense has scored more than
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Speaker 1: twenty five points twelve times. The best offense next to
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Speaker 1: it in Jaguars history eight and no one had more
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Speaker 1: than six in a row. They've got eight in a row.
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Speaker 1: So this is the best stretch of offense that we
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Speaker 1: have seen in Jaguars' history. And it's being made because
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Speaker 1: the quarterback is playing the best that any quarterback in
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Speaker 1: Jaguars history has played. And I don't mean to take
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Speaker 1: away anything from Mark Brunel. Some of the moments, the
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Speaker 1: moments he had in Denver, John in January of nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety seven epic still some of the best moments in
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Speaker 1: franchise history. And lots of players have played at a
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Speaker 1: very high level. This stretch with this team right now,
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Speaker 1: it's the best we've seen.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I completely agree.
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Speaker 5: It's a little hard to compare eras because we've gotten
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Speaker 5: far enough away from the nineties era that the game
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Speaker 5: is so much different. The Jaguars offense didn't try to
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Speaker 5: play the way this offense did in the nineties, but
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Speaker 5: this team right now plays offense the way this league
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Speaker 5: plays offense, and right now it's playing better than anybody
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Speaker 5: else in the league, maybe outside of San Francisco, which
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Speaker 5: is also really hot. But this, this Jaguars offense is
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Speaker 5: as good as any in the NFL right now.
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Speaker 4: Trevor elevating everybody around him, which makes it all the
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Speaker 4: much cooler. Our final big thing today gonna be Ristct
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Speaker 4: some disrespects going around, still getting it for the Jaguar
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Speaker 4: and Liam Collins because he doesn't care.
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Speaker 2: We don't care, you know, we really don't care about
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Speaker 2: the narrative. You know, it's I'm sorry to say that,
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Speaker 2: but it's only helping us. So I want the narrative
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Speaker 2: to keep coming.
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Speaker 4: Brian, a little bit of acknowledgment throughout the league, I
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Speaker 4: think now with that big win over Denver, but there's
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Speaker 4: always going to be somebody and they'll find them.
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Speaker 1: Well, how about this. The Pro Bowl list is out today,
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Speaker 1: and when people see it and see how few Jaguars
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Speaker 1: are being recognized for their great seasons, that will be
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Speaker 1: the next hammer that they have to hit. There's no
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Speaker 1: shortage of them. But that's what this team needs, John
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Speaker 1: is they need the edge right now, and they've got
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Speaker 1: lots of it.
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Speaker 6: Yet I'm glad.
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Speaker 5: I'm not glad the Pro Bowl thing happened because there's
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Speaker 5: guys who are deserving that I wish would be honored.
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Speaker 5: But for Liam's sake, I'm sort of glad it happened
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Speaker 5: because he can hammer that like a nail the rest
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Speaker 5: of the week. Look the respect thing. More power to
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Speaker 5: them for really playing it up. They until the last
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Speaker 5: few weeks, you understood why the league wasn't watching them
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Speaker 5: a little bit. And now that they're playing to this level,
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Speaker 5: the league's watching and the people within the league knows.
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Speaker 5: The media is starting to catch up with it. They'll
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Speaker 5: get the respect. Good on them for acting like they don't.
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Speaker 3: We gotta earn it. Stay with a Sara and jag Zam.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just the team's coming together.
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Speaker 8: I feel like we have a lot of confidence, but
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Speaker 8: we don't take our preparation for granted.
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Speaker 1: You can't just show up and win games in this league.
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Speaker 8: You got to prepare the right way, and you got
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Speaker 8: to have that edge and that mindset come Sunday.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's something.
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Speaker 8: Our team does a really good job of, is playing
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Speaker 8: with that chip on your shoulder and that edge and
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Speaker 8: attacking people and getting after them. And I think that's
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Speaker 8: something that's been huge for us, can't be understated. So
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Speaker 8: we have to continue to do that. You know, it's
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Speaker 8: not You're not just going to show up on Sunday
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Speaker 8: and win games no matter who you're playing, and especially
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Speaker 8: against a good team in Denver. So proud of the guys,
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Speaker 8: and we came ready to go, very.
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Speaker 4: Good stuff and Trevor Lawrence locked in at this point.
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Speaker 4: Sounds in the game coming out a little bit later
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Speaker 4: this week, you'll see even from the pregame they were
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Speaker 4: ready to go when they got to dene where they
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Speaker 4: were ready to go.
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Speaker 1: Let's put that way. He's so calm, and there have
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Speaker 1: been times where I've wanted to see more intensity from him,
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Speaker 1: but that sound bite right there after such a huge
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Speaker 1: win just tells you exactly who he is. And as
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Speaker 1: loud as the stadium was and all the emotion and
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Speaker 1: energy around that important of a game for them to
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Speaker 1: be so locked in, but a testament to his leadership,
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Speaker 1: which I think is a word that we use to
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Speaker 1: loosely around professional football. I think he's the complete package
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Speaker 1: right now.
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Speaker 5: He's uber impressive right now. And I'm not normally a
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Speaker 5: stat guy, and I gotta come in here and talk
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Speaker 5: about stats a whole lot, But if you look at
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Speaker 5: his Pro Football Reference page wherever they start listening, numbers
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Speaker 5: the last four games are unbelievable, And in this case,
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Speaker 5: I think it reflects what we're all seeing. I those
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Speaker 5: numbers weren't the same, you'd still be saying clean zeros
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Speaker 5: on interceptions, yep, crooked marks on touchdowns and big crooked marks.
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Speaker 6: This is a special run.
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Speaker 1: Well, I heard one that I just thought was so impressive.
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Speaker 1: Abo'll mention it. I heard he's got a ninety nine
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Speaker 1: point nine quarterback efficiency rating on third down that's.
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Speaker 3: Insane compared to last year as well.
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Speaker 4: Like, think about where the scene, what you were begging
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Speaker 4: for a third down and yet.
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Speaker 1: But what that says is is that in that pivotal
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Speaker 1: moment on any drive, when you face a third down,
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Speaker 1: especially against that defense and those conditions, his quarterback rating
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Speaker 1: is so high. It's just another way to measure how
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Speaker 1: great he has been the last month. I think great
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Speaker 1: is probably not a good enough word to use.
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Speaker 4: All right, let's look some of the tape, because it
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Speaker 4: was a fun one to go over, a little defensive
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Speaker 4: heavy early on, but then that touchdown to Parker Washington
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Speaker 4: was an absolute dot. The trust is there throwing four,
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Speaker 4: Parker's even close to the spot that he's going to
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Speaker 4: be catching it at. And Parker Washington also just doing
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Speaker 4: crazy things. I think the game plan obviously catered around
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Speaker 4: him a little bit because they were trying to take
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Speaker 4: away Jacobe and DTJ, but Parker really just flourished.
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Speaker 5: Well, sometimes you talk about players around here and it's
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Speaker 5: different than what you talk about, and what I'm getting
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Speaker 5: at is last week we all talked about, well, who's.
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Speaker 6: Certain going to take away?
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Speaker 5: And I remember saying it doesn't matter because I know
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Speaker 5: it's a sayment about Parker. But you had Parker, you
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Speaker 5: have Ja Kobe, you have Brenton Strange, you have Travis Etn.
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Speaker 5: I'd even gotten to Brian Thomas Junior, Tim Patrick. This
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Speaker 5: was purely a case with Parker where they knew Certain
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Speaker 5: wouldn't Gona be autumn.
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Speaker 6: So they said, okay, don't cover Parker.
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Speaker 1: Fine, And what would they have done if Travis Hunter
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Speaker 1: was on the field, right, I mean, just to mention
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Speaker 1: that there's an abundance of weapons and the one that
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Speaker 1: you drafted number two overall that everyone was most excited
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Speaker 1: about it hasn't even been on the field since the byeway.
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Speaker 6: Yes, some of that goes to what we've been talking
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Speaker 6: about too.
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Speaker 5: Clearly, perception in May, August, June mattered nothing to how
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Speaker 5: these guys are going to use players, because once again
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Speaker 5: they have completely shifted this on the fly and found
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Speaker 5: these guys to be stud players.
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Speaker 6: For them who people weren't even talking about in May.
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Speaker 5: It has been a remarkable season on that front, and
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Speaker 5: I think Parker's probably, you know, the shining example of that,
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Speaker 5: along with a couple others.
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Speaker 4: Let's take a look at the Jaig Wars second touchdown.
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Speaker 4: So as we talk a little bit about Travis etn
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Speaker 4: and then also Brent Strange getting involved, we talked about, yeah,
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Speaker 4: the running game needs to get involve I think if anything,
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Speaker 4: if it was going to be picky, that you need
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Speaker 4: to get the running game going a little bit more.
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Speaker 4: But I mean growing up against the second best runs
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Speaker 4: off the defense, so that's understandable as well. But they
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Speaker 4: did have big plays when they needed them on the
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Speaker 4: ground and then a huge catch from Brenton Strains have toucheddown.
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Speaker 1: You know, I was with you on the run game
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Speaker 1: and wanting to get it started. But the fact the
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Speaker 1: matter is is everyone's taking it away, and it's just
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Speaker 1: another measure of how well the quarterback is playing. Oh
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Speaker 1: you want to take away that which we consider a
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Speaker 1: bedrock part of our identity. We'll look at this guy
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Speaker 1: here and look at the throw that he makes to
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Speaker 1: Brenton Strange. I guess teams are going to keep trying
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Speaker 1: to take the runaway. We'll see what the Colts and
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Speaker 1: the Titans try to do in the final two weeks.
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Speaker 1: But good luck to you.
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Speaker 6: Somebody to me once in the NFL.
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Speaker 5: If it team wants to stop you running, they're usually
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Speaker 5: gonna do it, no matter how good you are at it,
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Speaker 5: because they can scheme it. The key is to be
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Speaker 5: able to counter that with what they're doing. I thought
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Speaker 5: the play you showed Kai spoke to exactly what we're
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Speaker 5: talking about.
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Speaker 6: They didn't run great.
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Speaker 5: I think they ran twenty seven times for Liam. I
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Speaker 5: think that's the key is, Okay, you can keep stopping me.
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Speaker 5: I'm going to keep at it, and I'm going to
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Speaker 5: keep at it enough to where when I don't run,
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Speaker 5: you're not.
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Speaker 6: Going to know it.
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Speaker 5: I'm in Indie and Peyton Manning always used to talk
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Speaker 5: about you have to have the threat of the run
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Speaker 5: is much more important than actually having the run. If
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Speaker 5: you have the threat of the run, then you know
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Speaker 5: the defense will play a certain way and you can
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Speaker 5: beat it. I think Trevor's at that point right now.
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Speaker 1: And one thing they have shown the ability to do
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Speaker 1: kai is to be able to run when they absolutely
12:47
Speaker 1: want to, when they want two or three yards, They're
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Speaker 1: able to get those two or three yards. And how
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years we've talked about their inability
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Speaker 1: to get the yards when they absolutely had to have
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Speaker 1: them and they wanted to run.
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Speaker 3: Now they can do it. Brock is to make a
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Speaker 3: little bit over run.
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Speaker 4: And then when we talk about this team battling back
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Speaker 4: against adversity, had the penalty on Antonio Johnson then led
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Speaker 4: to that big R. J. Harvey touchdown that's tied up
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Speaker 4: the game at that point. And john we talked earlier
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Speaker 4: in the week saying, you know, you got to be
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Speaker 4: careful with whether it's turnovers or penalties, because of penalty
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Speaker 4: like that can affect the game in a big way.
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Speaker 4: And fortunately this team is so well versed at this
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Speaker 4: point that they.
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Speaker 3: Can kind of battle through that.
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Speaker 4: But I think it's just another example of them kind
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Speaker 4: of dealing with what came their way and then bouncing
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Speaker 4: right back.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it feels like you got penalties to playing football.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of rep things going on
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Speaker 3: in that game.
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Speaker 5: Well, and look, by the letter of the law, helmets
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Speaker 5: hit a bit. I don't necessarily think that Camp is
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Speaker 5: pulling Antonio aside and saying you can't.
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Speaker 6: Do that in that situation soon as it happened.
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Speaker 5: But the resilience shown after it.
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Speaker 6: It was interesting being there.
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Speaker 5: The Broncos stayed with them, and a funny we're talking
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Speaker 5: that way about the team that's supposed to be the
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Speaker 5: best in the league.
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Speaker 1: They hung with the.
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Speaker 5: Jags, and the crowd would get excited and every time,
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Speaker 5: you know, a kind and I were sitting in the
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Speaker 5: press box and it's shaking, and five, six, seven times
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Speaker 5: you just.
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Speaker 6: Felt that stop and it's like, oh they scored again. Ah,
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Speaker 6: they scored again, and I'm sure we're about to see
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Speaker 6: then scored.
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Speaker 3: Again the eerie quiet.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. We talked about being a physical team all year.
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Speaker 1: They were clearly the more physical team on Sunday.
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Speaker 4: Trevor had a rushing touchdown with some penalties on that drive,
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Speaker 4: but then we get another big Parker catch in another
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Speaker 4: each can't run and those were two of my favorite
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Speaker 4: plays of the day just because of what we've been seeing. Well,
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Speaker 4: these are the penalties and then Trevor rushing touchdown, which
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Speaker 4: is just another example of Trevor.
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Speaker 3: Throwing it well, but then also using his legs.
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Speaker 4: I think what's cool about how he's using his legs
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Speaker 4: now is he still is running around to try to
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Speaker 4: throw and when he.
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Speaker 3: Gets in a situation like this, he's like, oh, I
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Speaker 3: can go.
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Speaker 4: Score, but it's not at a loss for him throwing
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Speaker 4: a football anymore.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you haven't seen it, dan Orlowski did a
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Speaker 5: great breakdown of some of these touchdowns and the scheme
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Speaker 5: on Trevor's run where they got the defense going the
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Speaker 5: other way and he basically just walked in another testament
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Speaker 5: to Liam Cohen, h Parker Washington. You know, just because
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Speaker 5: he's not the biggest wide receiver in the league. He
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Speaker 5: might have the strongest legs.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and broke tack. You know, just made play after
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Speaker 6: play after play. Right now, the league is so DPI.
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Speaker 5: Oriented, defensive pass interference oriented. You're gonna get calls like
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Speaker 5: Parker got I think.
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Speaker 6: Twenty years ago.
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Speaker 5: It's probably not an interference in the end zone. The
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Speaker 5: key right now in the NFL. Both teams get those
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Speaker 5: penalties because they're throwing DPI like it's going out of style.
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Speaker 5: The key is who can take advantage when they get
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Speaker 5: the break because all teams are getting them right now.
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Speaker 1: And these guys do.
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Speaker 5: That's a little bit of a sticking point mee Brian,
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Speaker 5: I think the league is over dpied right now.
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Speaker 1: But that's there's not for another day. There's a lot
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Speaker 1: of fun.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of refereeing that is interesting. Let's put
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Speaker 3: it that way.
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Speaker 4: Let's take a look at one of the Denver turnovers
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Speaker 4: fumble and then another Parker catch because maybe a little underrated.
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Speaker 3: Because at this point it's still I mean, you felt like.
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Speaker 4: That Jaguars were in control of this entire game. I
16:12
Speaker 4: didn't feel like they weren't at any point, but like
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Speaker 4: getting into close to the fourth quarter and getting down
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Speaker 4: here adding a field goal at the end of this,
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Speaker 4: that's where you're like, okay, like because when we talk
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Speaker 4: about the Texan game where they weren't continuing to finish
16:26
Speaker 4: throughout the fourth this is a point where you're like, Okay,
16:28
Speaker 4: they understand the stakes here and they're continuing to play
16:30
Speaker 4: really hard.
16:30
Speaker 8: Well.
16:31
Speaker 1: They put themselves in a position where they could add
16:33
Speaker 1: some points, but more than that, they could make the
16:36
Speaker 1: clock work to their advantage. There just wasn't going to
16:38
Speaker 1: be enough time for the Broncos to be able to
16:40
Speaker 1: come back. If the Jaguars could milk a little clock
16:43
Speaker 1: and add to the thirty one to seventeen make it
16:45
Speaker 1: that three score game, it felt like the breaking point
16:47
Speaker 1: in the ball game when a Manuel Ogbo fell on
16:50
Speaker 1: that ball.
16:50
Speaker 6: Yep.
16:51
Speaker 5: It's again, it's such a situational league right now that
16:56
Speaker 5: once you get a situation like that. They did their job,
16:59
Speaker 5: they took advantage, They got the points.
17:02
Speaker 6: Ifs and buts, if the Broncos hadn't fumbled there and
17:06
Speaker 6: go score.
17:08
Speaker 5: The feel of the game to me, I would ask
17:12
Speaker 5: somebody who was saying that that play turned the game
17:15
Speaker 5: to tell me when the Jaguars were gonna get stopped
17:18
Speaker 5: offensively because in that game. Now, I'm not saying they'll
17:21
Speaker 5: score every drive the rest of the season, but the
17:25
Speaker 5: theme of that game to me was that whenever the
17:28
Speaker 5: Broncos did something, the Jaguars hadn't answer offensively. I don't
17:33
Speaker 5: think we see any evidence that that wouldn't have happened
17:35
Speaker 5: had that fumble not happened.
17:37
Speaker 4: Let's do a couple of defensive plays to close things
17:39
Speaker 4: out because getting lost and all of what we're seeing
17:42
Speaker 4: with this offense and his high scoring is the defense
17:44
Speaker 4: is still playing really well on the course, will takeaway
17:46
Speaker 4: or forcing turnovers, getting takeaways, And I just love what.
17:51
Speaker 3: Coach Camberton nabers.
17:52
Speaker 1: Listen. I heard Robert Sala last week, the Niners defensive
17:57
Speaker 1: coordinators say that he finally got it right. He finally
18:00
Speaker 1: understood the yards don't matter, it's the points. And what
18:02
Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense. Forget the yards they gave up. They
18:04
Speaker 1: only gave up twenty points, and they closed the door
18:07
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter with the two takeaways. And you
18:10
Speaker 1: go back and look, you know they closed it at
18:11
Speaker 1: the end of the first half against the Jets, and
18:13
Speaker 1: they closed it early in the third quarter against the Colts.
18:16
Speaker 1: This team, the defense shuts the door on opponents, or
18:19
Speaker 1: at least they have in the last month.
18:21
Speaker 5: Look, the league is not set up for low yardage football,
18:26
Speaker 5: so you're not going to get low yards football very often,
18:30
Speaker 5: especially against the team as good as Denver. Defense now
18:35
Speaker 5: has become a situational game where if you get stops
18:40
Speaker 5: in big situations and put your team back where the
18:45
Speaker 5: offense is playing downhill, which it felt all day like
18:47
Speaker 5: it was the defense does its job when that happens,
18:50
Speaker 5: and they and they did its job in the fourth quarter.
18:54
Speaker 5: Somebody asked me, well, wouldn't they have been better off
18:56
Speaker 5: because it was fourth down if Jan had knocked the
18:58
Speaker 5: ball down?
18:59
Speaker 6: And my response to it, you go tell.
19:01
Speaker 1: A dB to knock it down that one, right.
19:04
Speaker 5: The interceptions are too rare and uh he had gotten
19:08
Speaker 5: uh jobbed a little bit on a on a penalty earlier.
19:11
Speaker 6: I thought, uh, I.
19:13
Speaker 5: Forget the situation, but it was it was again DP,
19:16
Speaker 5: I like it's going out of style.
19:17
Speaker 6: It got called for. It made the play there that
19:20
Speaker 6: basically sealed the game.
19:21
Speaker 3: Good for him, Absolutely love to see it. Say it
19:23
Speaker 3: was here on Jack Zam. We're not gonna do hot takes.
19:25
Speaker 4: We're gonna talk a little bit about our Chris Christmas
19:27
Speaker 4: wish list and.
19:28
Speaker 3: What we want to see come playoff time.
19:38
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Speaker 1: You down.
19:44
Speaker 8: You want to show every Sunday and you got a players.
19:46
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
19:47
Speaker 3: No matter where we're at, we playing the snow and
19:49
Speaker 3: the rain or whatever you want to do.
19:51
Speaker 1: I think the JAG's gonna.
19:51
Speaker 3: Be ready to play playing the snow, playing the rain.
19:55
Speaker 3: It was really playing in the rain.
19:56
Speaker 5: Not so much sure, but I think Brian, to Jaron's point,
20:01
Speaker 5: that does sort of There's many things that define teams
20:04
Speaker 5: when they get this hot m but being prepared. I
20:08
Speaker 5: mean you're talking what now, thirteen or fourteen games.
20:12
Speaker 6: The only game they didn't.
20:13
Speaker 5: Look like they were absolutely hair on fire ready to
20:17
Speaker 5: go was the Rams, and I'm not sure they weren't ready.
20:19
Speaker 5: I think they just got out played that day. But
20:21
Speaker 5: this team, these guys get prepared and they're ready to
20:24
Speaker 5: play well.
20:24
Speaker 1: And then there's think about where they could go in
20:26
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Is there any place in the AFC that
20:29
Speaker 1: you wouldn't feel comfortable that.
20:30
Speaker 6: They could go and play no, no, no.
20:33
Speaker 5: Because, as you mentioned, what people are going to continue
20:37
Speaker 5: missing about this team because now you've got the shiny,
20:40
Speaker 5: long haired quarterback playing well.
20:42
Speaker 6: So it's going to look like, oh, glamour team.
20:45
Speaker 5: They're a physical team first, and they're a potentially a
20:49
Speaker 5: great team because they have a physical team with the
20:52
Speaker 5: long haired, glamour quarterback and they.
20:53
Speaker 3: Shut the door defense and a glamour senior of course.
20:57
Speaker 6: I mean that was that a long time guy.
21:00
Speaker 4: Normally we do hot takes right about now, but we're
21:03
Speaker 4: playoff bounds, so we're going to do a little Christmas
21:05
Speaker 4: wish list. I think last year we had a lot
21:07
Speaker 4: of stuff on the wish list for the Jaguars at
21:09
Speaker 4: this time of year. A little bit different now. So
21:11
Speaker 4: when you're looking at the playoffs, Brian, what are you
21:13
Speaker 4: hoping for to see from this team?
21:15
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that Trayvon Walker can stay relatively healthy, all right.
21:19
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still playing with some device on his wrist,
21:22
Speaker 1: and he's got a knee on the left side also
21:24
Speaker 1: that he's got a brace on. But if he does
21:26
Speaker 1: the relentless energy that he played with on Sunday, you're
21:29
Speaker 1: talking about a guy, by the way, that in the
21:30
Speaker 1: last three games has made a fourth down stop on
21:34
Speaker 1: the run, right, I mean where he has changed the
21:37
Speaker 1: trajectory of what the other team's offense wanted to do.
21:40
Speaker 1: He is playing at a insanely high level. Now, is
21:44
Speaker 1: he getting to the quarterback and creating the sacks that
21:46
Speaker 1: everyone loves to see? No, but is he getting to
21:49
Speaker 1: the quarterback and forcing quicker throws? Yes, this is a
21:52
Speaker 1: guy who's playing at an extremely high level. People have
21:55
Speaker 1: heard the comparisons Aiden Hutchinson playing on the glamour team, right,
21:59
Speaker 1: the long haired pass rusher, although they could cut his
22:01
Speaker 1: hair and uh, and Trayvon Walker just doesn't have those numbers.
22:05
Speaker 1: But when you watch Trayvon Walker in the way that
22:07
Speaker 1: he plays football, U there will be an appreciation for
22:10
Speaker 1: who he is and how he plays the game. If
22:12
Speaker 1: he stays healthy through the postseason.
22:14
Speaker 5: Well, he said he had to stop on fourth down
22:16
Speaker 5: on the run again the last couple of weeks, and
22:18
Speaker 5: he had a an insanely quick pressure on the pass
22:22
Speaker 5: where bow Nick sort of had to do like the
22:24
Speaker 5: chess pass in basketball.
22:27
Speaker 1: Yeah.
22:27
Speaker 5: I can go on on about Treymont. He's he is
22:30
Speaker 5: playing at a high level and has for two or
22:31
Speaker 5: three years. I went a little bit of a different
22:33
Speaker 5: direction in a fun week. There's many things you want
22:36
Speaker 5: for the playoffs. We have time to talk about that.
22:39
Speaker 5: I want one point one million because that's that's supposedly
22:42
Speaker 5: the population of Duval County. Liam Cohen masks for this
22:47
Speaker 5: city because, Brian, you know, I'm not sure that this
22:50
Speaker 5: team has ever had a coach that that that this
22:54
Speaker 5: fan base could identify with quite this way.
22:57
Speaker 6: Hey, great coaches. Tom Coffin's a great coach. So it's
22:59
Speaker 6: really about that.
23:01
Speaker 5: But I covered Florida in the nineties when Spurrier got there,
23:05
Speaker 5: and a buddy of mine called me one day and
23:07
Speaker 5: he was like, John, I just.
23:09
Speaker 6: Love spury or so much.
23:10
Speaker 5: This is a prominent local attorney much in his life
23:14
Speaker 5: and said, I would tie to keep Spurrier at Florida.
23:17
Speaker 5: I love him this much because of the identity and
23:21
Speaker 5: the love that fan base had for him changed the
23:25
Speaker 5: culture and they said, yes, you will lead us out
23:28
Speaker 5: of our abyss. Liam feels like that to me, where
23:33
Speaker 5: you know, a unbelievable coach, but he gets it. He
23:37
Speaker 5: sort of leans into it, and he sort of likes
23:39
Speaker 5: the whole small market. He's going to go to fisticuffs
23:42
Speaker 5: with leading with solid he's going to embrace it. I
23:48
Speaker 5: think he probably knows they're getting a little respect, but
23:50
Speaker 5: he's going to keep playing that card of Hey, guys,
23:53
Speaker 5: nobody cares about us.
23:54
Speaker 6: He is Duval to his core.
23:56
Speaker 1: Is it ironic that he got so much crap saying
24:00
Speaker 1: it wrong at his introductory press conference, and yet nobody
24:04
Speaker 1: says it better than he does right now? Right now,
24:06
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the actual Douval, but bringing the
24:09
Speaker 1: emotion and bringing the lack of respect and bringing the
24:12
Speaker 1: personality of what that means here in North Florida to
24:16
Speaker 1: life every Sunday afternoon. So he tripped at the very beginning,
24:21
Speaker 1: but nobody does it better than he does. Right now,
24:23
Speaker 1: he's embraced it.
24:24
Speaker 5: The funny thing is I get emails all the time
24:28
Speaker 5: about him said, even early.
24:32
Speaker 6: On, what does he have the fire? The fire?
24:35
Speaker 5: I mean, look, he can call plays, and he's a
24:39
Speaker 5: brilliant play caller, clearly, but.
24:42
Speaker 6: Never think this guy had the fire.
24:44
Speaker 1: By the way, all of that stuff, all the respect
24:46
Speaker 1: and all the posts game stuff is great, but none
24:49
Speaker 1: of it matters as much as the brilliance as the
24:51
Speaker 1: play calling and as the leadership that he has done
24:54
Speaker 1: to turn this thing around from where it was last
24:57
Speaker 1: year to where it is right now. I didn't know
24:59
Speaker 1: if it was possible. It's been an amazing job.
25:01
Speaker 4: So much of coaching, especially as a head coach, is
25:04
Speaker 4: about finding the way to get through to your players
25:06
Speaker 4: and finding the way people are motivated.
25:08
Speaker 3: And Liam Cohen is clearly a person.
25:09
Speaker 4: That is motivated by negatives that whether you know you
25:14
Speaker 4: didn't get recruited, people saying you're not gonna be a
25:16
Speaker 4: good coach, people.
25:17
Speaker 3: Criticizing your first do wall and he uses that to
25:20
Speaker 3: his motivation.
25:21
Speaker 4: He's finding a lot of his players are motivated by
25:23
Speaker 4: that as well.
25:23
Speaker 3: And I don't know.
25:24
Speaker 4: I love to see it be a little petty. It's
25:26
Speaker 4: always entertaining for me. I get it for me. My
25:30
Speaker 4: playoff wish list is for two home games. As much
25:32
Speaker 4: as I enjoy going on the road and traveling with
25:35
Speaker 4: the team, I want to stay home in Dubal County
25:38
Speaker 4: for a little bit longer if we can. And as
25:40
Speaker 4: the playoff seating is still kind of up for grabs,
25:42
Speaker 4: I think that's very much a possibility. And I just
25:45
Speaker 4: love to see the bank with a big game. Jaguars
25:48
Speaker 4: fans can come out and support this is the real deal.
25:50
Speaker 4: If you don't believe it now, then you're never gonna
25:52
Speaker 4: believe it. And to see them in the postseason, I'm excited.
25:55
Speaker 4: This will be my first postseason game, so I'll be excited.
25:57
Speaker 5: You know.
25:57
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at it. I think the one is
25:59
Speaker 1: unlike because when you look who the Patriots played, they
26:02
Speaker 1: played the Jets with Brady Cook and they play the
26:04
Speaker 1: Dolphins with Quinn Yuler's right. However, they can get to
26:08
Speaker 1: the two if the Patriots win both those games and
26:11
Speaker 1: the Broncos lose one of their final two games, and
26:14
Speaker 1: the Jaguars win both of them. Right. In other words,
26:16
Speaker 1: if they have the same record, if they're both thirteen
26:18
Speaker 1: and four, the Jaguars could have number two, which would
26:21
Speaker 1: have them home for the wild card and the division.
26:27
Speaker 6: Potentially home if it's something false, if the.
26:30
Speaker 5: One would lose, in that case, you could have three
26:33
Speaker 5: home games.
26:33
Speaker 6: Here, I believe.
26:35
Speaker 4: So that's another scenario for people to pay attention to, right,
26:37
Speaker 4: because when I'm looking at this playoff picture, there's so
26:40
Speaker 4: much parody there.
26:40
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if.
26:42
Speaker 4: Any low seed upsets a higher seed at any point
26:45
Speaker 4: so that's where I think multiple home games is definitely possibility.
26:48
Speaker 5: It felt like the shot for New England to lose
26:51
Speaker 5: another one was Sunday against Baltimore. Yeah, but again we
26:56
Speaker 5: all would have assumed that, and Houston almost lost.
27:01
Speaker 1: I was just about to say to Vegas, so.
27:05
Speaker 5: Never think that weirdness can't happen in the n of season.
27:08
Speaker 5: That's why again getting in get in right, because it's
27:13
Speaker 5: professional football.
27:14
Speaker 4: And the Jaguars have been a part of it on
27:15
Speaker 4: the other end, spoiling seasons and so many years when
27:18
Speaker 4: they were out of it, so we know what that
27:20
Speaker 4: can be. Can never underestimate your opponent. Say, let's well
27:23
Speaker 4: tell you what's coming up the rest of the week.
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27:39
Speaker 1: Again quarterback.
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Speaker 9: Unbelievable, Parker washing Ticketstorian job.
27:55
Speaker 1: So proud of you.
27:56
Speaker 6: I love you, guys.
27:58
Speaker 9: The job's not even completely even close, ain't even close,
28:03
Speaker 9: not even close.
28:05
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's one more man, that's eleven.
28:08
Speaker 1: That's eleven, all right.
28:10
Speaker 9: But we're just a small market team.
28:26
Speaker 1: The legend of Liam, the way that he stirred him.
28:28
Speaker 4: Up, absolutely Parker Washington. We love a Parker Washington shouda.
28:32
Speaker 4: I think I think I still say it like Liam.
28:33
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm just like Parker wash She.
28:37
Speaker 3: He's gonna be with us. I think tonight for.
28:39
Speaker 4: All access actually at the beach at Strings, So if
28:41
Speaker 4: anybody wants to come down to that little pre Christmas edition,
28:44
Speaker 4: because we're having that tonight on Tuesday, and uh, the
28:48
Speaker 4: team will be practicing tomorrow limited and then they've all
28:53
Speaker 4: died the schedule a little bit for the holiday, but
28:54
Speaker 4: they will still be here all week preparing very much
28:57
Speaker 4: to head on the road to take on the Cold Twitch.
28:59
Speaker 4: We're not gonna be with you as the rest of
29:00
Speaker 4: the week, but that's gonna be a big game in
29:01
Speaker 4: it of itself. We know they lost on Monday Night football,
29:04
Speaker 4: but as we discussed, anything can happen, and it's a
29:06
Speaker 4: divisional game.
29:07
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. It's a divisional game. They know
29:09
Speaker 1: you very well. They recall what happened to them when
29:11
Speaker 1: they were here a couple of weeks ago. Their offense
29:15
Speaker 1: doesn't really frighten me because if you take away Jonathan
29:18
Speaker 1: Taylor and put it on what do we know, it's
29:21
Speaker 1: gonna be a forty four year old quarterback or is
29:22
Speaker 1: it going to be Riley Leonard. I mean it's but
29:24
Speaker 1: their defense, well, listen, it's a divisional game. They've got
29:27
Speaker 1: some players that can wreck your season. You know what
29:30
Speaker 1: you've got in front of you if you're not careful and.
29:33
Speaker 6: They're playing hard.
29:34
Speaker 5: I mean, the last two weeks they've taken the Seahawks
29:37
Speaker 5: and the forty nine ers, who may be two of
29:39
Speaker 5: the best five teams in the NFL, and give them
29:42
Speaker 5: all they wanted. There's a chance they're still in it technically,
29:46
Speaker 5: but they still feel like they're in it spiritually or whatever.
29:51
Speaker 6: As long as they're playing hard, they're dangerous.
29:52
Speaker 1: Well, I guess actually clarify what I mean. What they
29:55
Speaker 1: can take away from you is your chance at the
29:56
Speaker 1: number two, right or even the number one, And that
29:59
Speaker 1: is it's so important for the Jaguars to still be
30:02
Speaker 1: lasered in on what they can do and see if
30:05
Speaker 1: things fall their way. You don't want to slip up
30:07
Speaker 1: against the Colts to cost you a chance at the
30:10
Speaker 1: home games. And Duval counting, yes.
30:11
Speaker 5: Well, if the Texans win of Ust, the Colts could
30:13
Speaker 5: cause us a dish. So I don't think focus will
30:17
Speaker 5: be an issue.
30:18
Speaker 4: Even with Krima right, Lillam says we're not done yet.
30:21
Speaker 4: We certainly are not. We're going to take a Christmas
30:23
Speaker 4: break here.
30:24
Speaker 3: On jag Zam.
30:24
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30:27
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