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The Lemon List For Popular SUVs - Get'n dirty around Houston - Jeep Grand Wagoner L · In Wheel Time Podcast

• 0:06
  Don Armstrong: All right.
• 0:06
  Don Armstrong: Um for Jeff's car culture.
• 0:09
  Don Armstrong: This week's six SUV lemons.
• 0:13
  Jeff Dziekan: They're calling them lemons.
• 0:14
  Jeff Dziekan: They're just giving you a forewarning to watch out.
• 0:17
  Jeff Dziekan: So experts tend to flag certain SUVs as risky when they share three consistent warning signs.
• 0:22
  Jeff Dziekan: It's an impact overall on the ownership experience.
• 0:25
  Jeff Dziekan: One of them is mechanical reliability, leading concerns, particularly in vehicles prone to engine stalling, erratic transmissions, or a glitchy infotainment system like Don has been talking about.
• 0:35
  Jeff Dziekan: So here we go.
• 0:36
  Jeff Dziekan: Take the first one, Mike.
• 0:38
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh this is the Volkswagen Taust, often flagged by experts of a mixed mechanical and safety concerns that can impact everyday driving.
• 0:45
  Jeff Dziekan: Some owners have reported sudden power loss at high speeds.
• 0:49
  Jeff Dziekan: Serious issues can create dangerous situations on the road.
• 0:52
  Jeff Dziekan: Taken together, these issues can make the Taos of vehicle buyers worse experienced and want to approach with certain cautions, especially when considering long-term reliability and overall safety.
• 1:04
  Jeff Dziekan: So be careful of that one.
• 1:05
  Jeff Dziekan: The next one is a Chevy Equinox.
• 1:07
  Jeff Dziekan: It raises two key concerns for buyers.
• 1:10
  Jeff Dziekan: Mechanical reliability again and long-term value.
• 1:13
  Jeff Dziekan: Reports point to issues such as excessive oil consumption and recurring fuel system problems, both of which can drive up maintenance costs over time.
• 1:21
  Jeff Dziekan: On financial side, the Equinox also faces steep depreciation.
• 1:25
  Jeff Dziekan: Estimates suggest that a 2026 model could lose 52% of its value within five years.
• 1:31
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh my god, that's a lot.
• 1:33
  Jeff Dziekan: The next one, Mike, is a Nissan Rogue.
• 1:36
  Jeff Dziekan: I don't have a lot of passion for this vehicle.
• 1:38
  Jeff Dziekan: I've got personal issues with it, but despite its modern styling and advanced technical features, it is drawing increasingly scrutin increased scrutiny from the experts.
• 1:46
  Jeff Dziekan: It's a three-cylinder engine, it's under investigation, filing reports of bearing failures, raises concerns about long-term durability.
• 1:54
  Jeff Dziekan: The models can uh continuously variable transmission also adds those worries as well.
• 2:00
  Jeff Dziekan: Given its history and premature failures that can be costly to fix or replace.
• 2:05
  Jeff Dziekan: In some cases, repair bills can run into several thousand dollars, significantly increasing its ownership costs.
• 2:12
  Jeff Dziekan: On the next one, number four, we have a Ford Explorer.
• 2:16
  Jeff Dziekan: It remains a popular SUV, but experts caution that ongoing transmission issues continue to affect its reliability.
• 2:23
  Jeff Dziekan: Drivers have reported harsh shifting, jerking, inconsistent performance.
• 2:27
  Jeff Dziekan: We have that every day.
• 2:29
  Jeff Dziekan: Problems can be reduced, uh, both comfort and and uh confidence behind the wheel.
• 2:35
  Jeff Dziekan: Beyond the drivetrain, the Explorer's driver assistance systems can also uh show uneven performance in real-world conditions.
• 2:43
  Jeff Dziekan: That's inconsistency across both mechanical and technical features adds a layer of uncertainty for the owners.
• 2:51
  Jeff Dziekan: Then we have the Jeep Cherokee.
• 2:53
  Jeff Dziekan: It's often talked about, it's often signaled by experts as one of the most concerning SUVs, largely due to the volume and seriousness of reported issues.
• 3:01
  Jeff Dziekan: Among the most alarming are sudden losses of engine power and unpredictable transmission behavior, both of which can create safety risks in everyday driving.
• 3:10
  Jeff Dziekan: These reoccurring problems have led uh some analysts, uh some analysts I should say, to rank it among the vehicles to avoid in 2026.
• 3:19
  Jeff Dziekan: While the modern model still benefits from strong brand appeal, the buildup of reliability concerns has weighed heavily on its reputation.
• 3:26
  Jeff Dziekan: And lastly, the Infinity QX80 is often cited as a luxury SUV, but may not hold its value over time.
• 3:36
  Jeff Dziekan: Experts point to a steep depreciation as a major drawback for this vehicle.
• 3:40
  Jeff Dziekan: Projections suggest that they lose up to 60 69% of its value within five years, leaving owners a significantly lower resale price.
• 3:49
  Jeff Dziekan: So be careful of that one as well if you're looking for a a car to you know keep the value.
• 3:54
  Jeff Dziekan: That's not one of them.
• 3:56
  Jeff Dziekan: There we go.
• 3:57
  Jeff Dziekan: That's quite a list.
• 3:58
  Jeff Dziekan: Back to you.
• 3:58
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 3:59
  Don Armstrong: Those are pretty popular vehicles.
• 4:01
  Jeff Dziekan: They're not some.
• 4:02
  Jeff Dziekan: They also have a uh lemon list of pre-owned vehicles.
• 4:05
  Jeff Dziekan: I was going to get into that, but maybe another week.
• 4:07
  Don Armstrong: Maybe maybe next week.
• 4:08
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, could be.
• 4:08
  Jeff Dziekan: Okay.
• 4:09
  Don Armstrong: By the way, uh anyway.
• 4:16
  Don Armstrong: All right, time now for Mr.
• 4:18
  Don Armstrong: Mars driving destinations.
• 4:19
  Don Armstrong: This week it's Hidden Dirt in Hidden Houston.
• 4:24
  Mike Marrs: So I thought about how occasionally you want to get out and you want to go off-roading.
• 4:28
  Mike Marrs: You might want to be uh uh ride a four-wheeler, you can't ride three-wheelers anymore, or even the side-by-sides, but you don't want to own one.
• 4:35
  Mike Marrs: You don't have a place for it, or it just is a lot of maintenance to it.
• 4:39
  Mike Marrs: So these places, uh, we got five places here around the Houston area that you can go, and most of them you can rent a vehicle that you can ride.
• 4:47
  Mike Marrs: Now we're gonna start with number one is Extreme Off-Road Park and Beach.
• 4:51
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is up in Crosby.
• 4:52
  Mike Marrs: Now it's just southside of Houston, and it's really the best known off-road destination in Southeast Texas, all the way over on my side of the world.
• 5:00
  Mike Marrs: Everybody knows about this place.
• 5:02
  Mike Marrs: 1,600 acres of trails that go through the mud, uh sand, wooden train, water crossings, and it's all part of the San Jacinto River Valley.
• 5:12
  Mike Marrs: Now you can get beginner-friendly routes just like uh snow skiing.
• 5:16
  Mike Marrs: You got easy, you got beginner, and then you got the ones that are really hard.
• 5:20
  Mike Marrs: They have camping, you can get cabins.
• 5:22
  Mike Marrs: There's a few food vendors there if you are going to stay there all day or all weekend.
• 5:27
  Mike Marrs: And uh you can get to the river, and it makes pretty much anything you want to do in the off-road part of the world.
• 5:33
  Mike Marrs: And there's several rental operators on side, so you can actually reserve an ATV or a side-by-side so that you don't have to bring your own.
• 5:41
  Mike Marrs: You don't have to clean it up either after you leave.
• 5:43
  Mike Marrs: You just can go out there and utilize uh their vehicles out there in that territory and get your off-road fixed.
• 5:50
  Mike Marrs: Now, the second one that we wanted to look at was Creekside Off-Road Ranch.
• 5:55
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is up in Splendor.
• 5:57
  Mike Marrs: It's about 45 minutes northeast of Houston, a little bit further out.
• 6:00
  Mike Marrs: It's on 400 acres, includes creek crossings, got wooded trails, lots of sand, got some hill climbs, and some mud pits.
• 6:08
  Mike Marrs: Now, it's particularly appealing for families because you know, with newer riders, they they got their trails that are maintained.
• 6:14
  Mike Marrs: They maintain them a little bit wider and it's a little bit more family friendly.
• 6:18
  Mike Marrs: It's not quite so hardcore.
• 6:19
  Mike Marrs: Got plenty of camping, RV hookups, so you can spend the week, spend the weekend, whatever you need to do.
• 6:25
  Mike Marrs: And there are rental operators nearby that make it easy to get the kind of vehicle that you want to utilize and learn how to take some of these riding opportunities.
• 6:35
  Mike Marrs: The third one is the unlimited off-road park up in Conroe.
• 6:40
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is situated in Conroe's just north of Houston, and it caters to ATVs and dirt bikes, the side-by-sides, and four-wheel drive vehicles.
• 6:50
  Mike Marrs: So you get a mixture of easy trails, mud sections, got a little bit of beach-style riding areas with some sand on them.
• 6:56
  Mike Marrs: And of course, they've got some challenging obstacles set up for experienced riders.
• 7:01
  Mike Marrs: Unlike some of the smaller parks uh that are kind of like a this is more like a full-day destination that you can go to.
• 7:08
  Mike Marrs: It's not necessarily for the long term, but you can get rental RVs on it.
• 7:13
  Mike Marrs: I mean, uh ATVs that are on site, so it makes it a lot easier.
• 7:16
  Mike Marrs: Again, if you don't have that off-road equipment and you want to go out and ride an ATV, then here's your opportunity to go out and get some experience and work with some other people that are kind of in the same level that you are as far as riding experience goes.
• 7:31
  Mike Marrs: This this next one, number four, is I found this really interesting.
• 7:35
  Mike Marrs: It's H Town AT Rentals at HTX Adventure Park.
• 7:41
  Mike Marrs: Now, this operation specializes in guided ATV experiences.
• 7:47
  Mike Marrs: Now, this isn't just the traditional admission parts where you go out and you got all these acres.
• 7:52
  Mike Marrs: You go out there, here's the trails, take off and go.
• 7:54
  Mike Marrs: Now, up in Crosby, you get you got access to a lot of extensive trail systems.
• 8:00
  Mike Marrs: They got a thousand acres, but uh they are guided.
• 8:04
  Mike Marrs: AT the kind of like ATV tours.
• 8:07
  Mike Marrs: You got Honda Rancher ATVs, you got a lot of safety equipment, but you're guided to go through the trails through the mud and the forest section and a lot of the open area riders.
• 8:16
  Mike Marrs: So this is a great place to go for beginners, particularly maybe if you want you got your date, first time uh you've taken her out on the off-road and you want to get some experience at it, do something different.
• 8:26
  Mike Marrs: There you go.
• 8:27
  Mike Marrs: Great for family visitors.
• 8:28
  Don Armstrong: And she's all dressed up to go to the symphony.
• 8:31
  Mike Marrs: Yes, yes.
• 8:32
  Mike Marrs: So, you know, now you turn that white dress into a brown dress because of all the mud.
• 8:35
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, you want to go get dirty.
• 8:37
  Mike Marrs: They have all the machines and they have guides that are all included, so it's a great way if you're new or you're just really uh trying to get somebody new into it.
• 8:46
  Mike Marrs: Now, the last one we want to talk about is Crosby ATV rental.
• 8:49
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is uh again at the extreme off-road part, but they don't have their own equipment.
• 8:55
  Mike Marrs: And this rental operation provides all the equipment for you.
• 8:59
  Mike Marrs: So if you're one of those people, again, back to I don't have the ATV, I don't have a place to put it, I don't have a trailer to put it in to haul it off up there.
• 9:07
  Mike Marrs: I'm gonna go up there though, every once in a while, every quarter or once a month.
• 9:11
  Mike Marrs: I can go up there and rent it and have all the off-road fun that I would like.
• 9:15
  Mike Marrs: So these are just some places around the Houston area that you can go and find some time to play in the dirt.
• 9:21
  Mike Marrs: Hidden dirt.
• 9:21
  Mike Marrs: Yep.
• 9:22
  Mike Marrs: In hidden Houston.
• 9:23
  Mike Marrs: Thank you, sir.
• 9:23
  Don Armstrong: Summertime.
• 9:24
  Don Armstrong: In real time cartel.
• 9:30
  Don Armstrong: All right, let's look at the auto history notebook.
• 9:34
  Don Armstrong: Mr.
• 9:34
  Don Armstrong: Mars has that.
• 9:35
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, we've got a couple of things coming up in this week uh in automotive history, such as June the 22nd, 1909.
• 9:43
  Mike Marrs: Now, Alice Ramsay arrived in San Francisco after leaving New York 59 days earlier.
• 9:51
  Mike Marrs: She was in a Maxwell.
• 9:54
  Mike Marrs: I bet there weren't no Motel 6s nearby, were there?
• 9:58
  Mike Marrs: Nope, nope, nope.
• 9:58
  Mike Marrs: She was in a Maxwell touring car with three female passengers.
• 10:02
  Jeff Dziekan: There you go.
• 10:03
  Mike Marrs: So she uh, of course, they had to go across primitive roads, 1909, uh, mud, river crossings, and mechanical breakdowns.
• 10:11
  Mike Marrs: They handled it all.
• 10:12
  Mike Marrs: And so this made her the first woman to drive across the United States and demonstrated the uh reliability of automobiles and the role of women in the development of our society, and uh it's really one of the most remarkable endurance drives in an automobile.
• 10:28
  Don Armstrong: Wonder if she ever got out and changed the tire, too.
• 10:31
  Don Armstrong: That's why she had the other three ladies with her.
• 10:33
  Mike Marrs: In the history, I think they had to change two of them.
• 10:35
  Mike Marrs: But anyway, moving on to June the 23rd, the first Vanderbilt Cup on Long Island's new circuit happened.
• 10:43
  Mike Marrs: Uh this was uh June the 23rd, so thousands of spectators gathered along island to watch the leading American European manufacturers compete on a newly designed course.
• 10:54
  Mike Marrs: Now, this again, the event was to showcase automotive technology, including more powerful engines, and uh the improved vehicles.
• 11:01
  Mike Marrs: Now, this was because at this time, racing directly influenced production car development.
• 11:08
  Mike Marrs: Things that worked out on the racetrack, then they would go in and build them.
• 11:11
  Mike Marrs: The old uh the old saying that uh win on Sunday, sell on Monday kind of stuff.
• 11:15
  Mike Marrs: This is where all that good stuff started.
• 11:17
  Mike Marrs: Now then moving on to June the 25th, Malcolm Campbell sets a new land speed record.
• 11:22
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is really impressive because this British driver pushed his sunbeam-powered racer to a land speed record at Pendine Sands in Wales.
• 11:34
  Mike Marrs: He got over 150 miles an hour in 1925, and and it absolutely caught international attention.
• 11:42
  Mike Marrs: And he continued to set more records as he went on, but this was the first one, and this really highlighted the rapid technical technology advances occurring in the automotive industry during the formative days.
• 11:55
  Mike Marrs: Then on June the 26th, the last Ford Model T rolled out.
• 12:01
  Mike Marrs: Now, this was uh a big deal.
• 12:03
  Mike Marrs: It was the 15 millionth uh Model T that was built.
• 12:08
  Mike Marrs: And in reality, of course, the Model A followed this, but the reality of the Model A was basically a Model T on steroids.
• 12:15
  Mike Marrs: It was a little bit wider, a little bit longer, but it looked almost the same other than the dimensions on it.
• 12:22
  Mike Marrs: Then coming up on June the 27th, 1950, the first production Saab 92 rolls out.
• 12:29
  Mike Marrs: Now, this was important because this was the company's first passenger car.
• 12:34
  Mike Marrs: They've been developing aircraft engines and developing airplanes, and and so the Streamline 92 featured uh some really innovative engineering and aerodynamics.
• 12:46
  Mike Marrs: It was powered by a two-cylinder two-stroke engine, but it got a reputation for reliability and durability because of the engineering that had gone into the aircraft experience that the company had.
• 12:59
  Don Armstrong: Sub-reliable?
• 13:01
  Mike Marrs: Well, the two-cylinder two-stroke engine in 1950 is what we're talking about.
• 13:07
  Don Armstrong: Did it sound anything like this?
• 13:13
  Mike Marrs: Whenever it popped.
• 13:14
  Mike Marrs: Yeah.
• 13:16
  Mike Marrs: I'll have to see if we can find some audio from that.
• 13:20
  Mike Marrs: In June 27, 1963, Lamborghini is officially established.
• 13:24
  Mike Marrs: Oh, I missed a picture.
• 13:25
  Mike Marrs: This car here, uh, there were several pictures of it, but I love the way this car looks.
• 13:31
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is uh they'd already Lamborghini, of course, started in the tractor business.
• 13:35
  Mike Marrs: They set out to build grand touring cars to challenge Ferrari.
• 13:39
  Mike Marrs: It's kind of a personal thing between the families.
• 13:41
  Mike Marrs: And uh so they introduced the 350 GT, and it's that's really where what founded Lamborghini and created one of the world's most famous rivalries between them and Ferrari, whether it's in racing, on the show floor, design, they're just they're after each other all the time.
• 13:58
  Mike Marrs: But I love the way this car looks, and uh that's just some of the things we found in automotive history this week.
• 14:03
  Don Armstrong: I like the way that the green sobed.
• 14:07
  Don Armstrong: It's kind of fitted.
• 14:10
  Don Armstrong: It was different.
• 14:14
  Don Armstrong: I don't even know how what would you say about that car?
• 14:18
  Don Armstrong: You know, it kind of looked like a little baby elephant.
• 14:20
  unknown: Uh-oh.
• 14:22
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, you could say it kind of looked like a baby elephant.
• 14:25
  Mike Marrs: It was more to me like uh uh uh like a little beetle or or a little ladybug type thing, and just it was green, you know.
• 14:33
  Mike Marrs: It just Yeah.
• 14:34
  Don Armstrong: Well, green cars, uh no.
• 14:36
  Don Armstrong: They just don't work for me, but whatever.
• 14:39
  Don Armstrong: Different day, different time.
• 14:40
  Don Armstrong: Police Well, you know, since it is a Father's Day weekend, um, I thought that, well, here's an appropriate vehicle, especially if you have kids or grandkids.
• 14:57
  Don Armstrong: How about a 2026 Jeep Grand Wagoneer assembled in Warren, Michigan?
• 15:04
  Don Armstrong: That's a big one.
• 15:05
  Don Armstrong: Wave that American.
• 15:06
  Jeff Dziekan: That's a big one.
• 15:07
  Don Armstrong: Okay, so uh the review territory level is the L Summit Obsidian 4x4.
• 15:17
  Don Armstrong: This is a standard SUV body on frame.
• 15:21
  Don Armstrong: Uh it will seat the seven in three rows.
• 15:24
  Don Armstrong: It was all new in 2022, so they've managed to gussy it up, and this is this thing is huge.
• 15:34
  Don Armstrong: And I I think it has a kitchen sink.
• 15:36
  Don Armstrong: I just didn't find it on this one week that I had.
• 15:41
  Don Armstrong: Uh exterior features B-I-G, baby, uh signature seven-slot jeep grill, but with a high zoot look to it.
• 15:51
  Don Armstrong: You would really have to know the history of the seven-slot grill that goes back to World War II, all of that good stuff because it kind of disappears in the front end of this.
• 16:02
  Don Armstrong: There it is, right there.
• 16:04
  Don Armstrong: Uh, linear lines from grill to rear end, concentric-sized wheel openings, chrome accents, however, can distract a bit from the body lines.
• 16:18
  Don Armstrong: Um, they did that to put a little bling on it.
• 16:21
  Don Armstrong: That's all I can think of.
• 16:23
  Don Armstrong: Uh what I liked about it, I liked its conservative styling.
• 16:26
  Don Armstrong: What could use improvement?
• 16:28
  Don Armstrong: Well, as far as a Jeep is concerned, I don't think you can.
• 16:32
  Don Armstrong: However, what I'd really like to see is have this morph into a second version called a Chrysler fill-in-the-blank.
• 16:41
  Don Armstrong: A Chrysler version of this.
• 16:43
  Don Armstrong: Oh my god.
• 16:45
  Don Armstrong: To compete to compete with the Cadillac Escalade, because this could do it.
• 16:49
  Don Armstrong: I'm just saying interior highlights.
• 16:53
  Don Armstrong: Well, uh, you know, Jeep, especially at this level, known for high-end interiors.
• 16:58
  Don Armstrong: Well, this one doesn't disappoint.
• 17:00
  Don Armstrong: Wood touches through the interior add a bit of excellence, a lot of excellence, and elegance too.
• 17:08
  Don Armstrong: Quilted seating adds the wild factor.
• 17:11
  Don Armstrong: Uh, some controls, uh, and in non-traditional places, so it took me a little while to get used to it.
• 17:18
  Don Armstrong: You know, I'm used to the old school Jeeps, and this takes it over and above old school.
• 17:24
  Don Armstrong: Uh as far as storage, well, big third row seats in the back.
• 17:31
  Don Armstrong: Once you fold those down, you got plenty of room back there in the cargo area.
• 17:35
  Don Armstrong: What I liked about the interior, lap of luxury feeling.
• 17:40
  Don Armstrong: I could use improvement.
• 17:41
  Don Armstrong: Well, there's no AM radio.
• 17:44
  Don Armstrong: What?
• 17:45
  Don Armstrong: Wow.
• 17:46
  Don Armstrong: Why?
• 17:47
  Don Armstrong: Why?
• 17:48
  Don Armstrong: I don't get it.
• 17:49
  Don Armstrong: That was one of those old radio.
• 17:51
  Don Armstrong: Well, I heard that you know they were doing that with the EVs, but if there's an AM radio in it, it didn't appear on the display.
• 17:58
  Don Armstrong: Uh engine.
• 17:59
  Don Armstrong: This had a hurricane inline six-cylinder twin turbocharged, and it turned out 510 horsepower with plenty of torque in the 400 pound feet range.
• 18:16
  Don Armstrong: Eight-speed automatic transmission.
• 18:18
  Don Armstrong: The tow rating is at 9,860 pounds.
• 18:24
  Don Armstrong: Friends, that's almost five tons.
• 18:26
  Don Armstrong: Can you believe it?
• 18:27
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, that's a big one.
• 18:29
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 18:29
  Don Armstrong: Well, um let's see.
• 18:34
  Don Armstrong: Miles per gallon.
• 18:35
  Don Armstrong: 16 in the city, 22 on the highway for a combined of 18.
• 18:40
  Don Armstrong: I got 16.9 miles per gallon over 353.3 miles.
• 18:47
  Don Armstrong: Uh, what I liked, the power, plenty of power.
• 18:51
  Don Armstrong: Um, and it it will it goes right up against a V8 because it's smooth and it's nonstop power all the way through with the twin turbo spooled up on it.
• 19:03
  Don Armstrong: Um could use improvement?
• 19:05
  Don Armstrong: Well, now that uh Stellantis has gotten back into their right mind, I'm thinking maybe perhaps an Hemi V8 option.
• 19:15
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm thinking V8 from the beginning.
• 19:17
  Jeff Dziekan: A six-cylinder twin turbo, that's a lot of that's a lot of moving parts.
• 19:20
  Don Armstrong: Well, you know, they they've sunk a lot of money into that in in line six.
• 19:24
  Don Armstrong: Well, they save money by not putting a radio in, bam.
• 19:27
  Don Armstrong: But that's a little different.
• 19:30
  Don Armstrong: Uh riding handling, it's got an air ride suspension that comes with this upscale trim level.
• 19:36
  Don Armstrong: What could use improvement absolutely nothing?
• 19:38
  Don Armstrong: Rides great, and it is big.
• 19:41
  Don Armstrong: This is not something that you want to throw around the corner.
• 19:45
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 19:45
  Don Armstrong: Um base trim price is$97,310.
• 19:52
  Don Armstrong: Now that's the base trim.
• 19:53
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 19:54
  Don Armstrong: Price is tested,$106,890.
• 19:58
  Don Armstrong: If you just want to get into a great big SUV, you can get the Wagoneer at$66,995, and good luck in trying to find one of those.
• 20:08
  Don Armstrong: Wow.
• 20:09
  Don Armstrong: Here's what it competes against.
• 20:10
  Don Armstrong: The Chevy Suburban, clearly.
• 20:12
  Don Armstrong: $63,700 where where it starts.
• 20:15
  Don Armstrong: Ford Expedition Max, I was kind of surprised that it only goes for$577 to get into one.
• 20:20
  Don Armstrong: Oh.
• 20:21
  unknown: Okay.
• 20:21
  Don Armstrong: And then I thought, well, okay, let's throw it up there where this particular one was.
• 20:26
  Don Armstrong: Let's go for the Lexus LX, which isn't quite as big as this particular vehicle.
• 20:31
  Don Armstrong: Uh the Lexus LX starts at$107,000.
• 20:35
  Don Armstrong: Starts.
• 20:36
  Don Armstrong: It starts there.
• 20:36
  Don Armstrong: It starts.
• 20:37
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 20:38
  Don Armstrong: So that's my review of the 2026 Jeep Grand Wagoneer L for long.
• 20:48
  Don Armstrong: Luxurious.
• 20:49
  Don Armstrong: Lap a luxury.