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Inside The Birds: Week 14 Postgame Show: L.A. Chargers 22, Philadelphia Eagles 19 · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to the Inside the Birds postgame show. Jeff
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Mosher and Adam kaplan the Eagles lose to the Chargers
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: in overtime twenty two nineteen. There's a lot to unpack here, Adam,
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just start off and lay it out this way,
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: all right. There's gonna be a ton of focus, as
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: there should be on the four turnovers, right, maybe even
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: the late crumbling of the ectually five five five turnovers.
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: You're right, two on one play. We'll get into that. Yes,
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: almost historic. There'll be a ton of focus on that,
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: and the fact that the Eagles have lost three straight
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: and it might look like twenty twenty three. I was
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: prepared to do this show with you thinking the Eagles
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: were gonna win the game. They were up nineteen sixteen.
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna close it out. They didn't.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: Then they were driving there. Of course in overtime, thought
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: they were gonna score. They did not, so they wound
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: up losing. I can guarantee you this, and I don't
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: know if you feel this way, but had they won
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: that game in either regulation over time, I would be
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: on this show saying the exact same thing to you
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: that I'm saying, now, I don't care about the turnovers.
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: All that to me, I was looking for a fix
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: of the offense. I was looking for more rhythm. I
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: was looking for harmony. I was looking for what we've
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: basically been looking for all year, a marriage of the
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: run game in the past game where the short pass
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: game to the intermediate to know, there was none of that,
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: and the turnovers are just a one byproduct of that.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: So win or lose, this is the same Eagles team,
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: and I think that that is really unfortunate as they
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: head down the stretch here because they did lose and
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: it puts them in an even more precarious situation.
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely was not a rhythmic game. And understand,
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: folks that we focus on education here. The way the
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: coach is grade tape is every tape is, every play
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: is graded. Every turnover is great in terms of what happened.
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: They don't do like this is not talk grated where
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: they accused or they have to put blame on. That's
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: not the way coaches coach. They'd be fired if they
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: did that way. It's what happened. What did you see?
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: If you're the quarterback and you have the correction and
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: by the way, offensive line head issues. Okay, yes, Hurts
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: held on the ball. Hurts also had some really good
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: inside the number throws he did, he had some bad throws.
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: His passer rating. I'm not a big passer rating guy,
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: because it's there's a reason why NFL teams don't look
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: like the stats people look at it. But that's why
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: espnk with QBR because it's the passer ratings outdated. But
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: hurts Is rating was terrible at thirty one two. But
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: again you have to take every through account. And then
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: A J. Brown. Okay, the deep middle throw with juice
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  Speaker 2: on it, which Aikman said was on Brown, I totally agree.
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: And Brown has a terrible drop on a great throw
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  Speaker 2: bye bye by Hertz in the left corner. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you couldn't placed it there any better. He drops it. Agree,
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: that's on Brown.
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: I agree you're talking about the one deep download and yeah, yeah,
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I corner made a nice play, But I
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: agree with you that.
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: It was get his hands, you gotta catch it. I'm
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: not that was there.
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair, and it's and that sort of
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: was the least of the Eagles issues going into the game,
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: sort of a j. Brown's ability to catch balls that
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: are you know a little bit not perfectly placed on him.
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: So just add that to the list. But to what
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: you just said, what we have seen all year long
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: are offensive line penalties that are brutal. Steen had one,
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: my a Lotta had one, Jurgons had one, Jurgons had
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: one another one that really might have been my Loto
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: or it was both. And then of course we've seen
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: offensive line not block well at times, and there were
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: certainly there was one where Jurgons just completely missed on
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: tire Tart and Barkley gets dropped in the backfield. Stuff
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: that you never saw last year, that you see repeatedly
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: this year that you were way for this team to
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: fix does not appear as if it's going to be fixed.
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: Which is why you you and I are. We talked
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: to coaches and we have the same philosophy of you
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: are process oriented, not results oriented. So that's why I said,
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: a win might have been nice. It might have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: give you know, finally put your closer to winning the
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: NFC East. You might have felt better about your standing.
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: To me, I would have said, no, I mean, if
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: you're if you're looking if you're widening the lens and
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: you're just asking yourself. Forget about what the record is,
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: they're standing their seeding. Do they look like a team
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: that can win a Super Bowl even if they have
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: won the game? I said, only on their best, best,
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: best day, and if their defense could carry the load,
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: because the offense is not coming back, it's just not. Yeah.
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: Well, and we'll talk about the defense as we get
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  Speaker 2: through the show, but the overview is what's that. Yeah,
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: defense was great. I can't go for the most part. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: for the most part. I mean the back breaking Herbert runs.
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: By the way, Herbert had its most carries in a
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: game in the past two seasons, which was ten, and
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: he led him in rushing, which is bizarre because we
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: might as well just talk about defense quickly and then
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: we'll get into the nuts and balls, get the offense
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: and defense and finish. But yeah, they start up very
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: poorly against the Rowan and Mary and Hampton looked terrific.
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: Then second or third quarters are on defense other than
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: a Herbert breakdown was phenomenal. Yep, phenomenal, And the effort
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: and the energy was fantastic. The defense after what happened
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: last week, that Jalen Carter did a really good job.
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: And Jordan Davis, well, I'm very interest to see what
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: greg O sel says when we talked to him tonight.
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: Actually twice we tape inside the tape and also the
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: Tier three Patreon members, now do they get his tape
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: notes offensive defense earlier than usual. They get him at
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: six Eastern. So enjoy greg tonight. But I would say
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: that defensively, Jordan Davis brought the energy. The one thing
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: is when you're without your best defensive player, you can't
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: overdo it. Yes, you need to play better because you
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: don't have there, but Davis brought it. I mean he
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: had He played a lot of snaps for people wondering, Okay,
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: was he going to be down in snaps, because there's
• 6:08
  Speaker 2: some games here where he's just not gotten the usual
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: amount of STAPs at He's way up. Obviously in snap count,
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: they had seventy four defensive snaps. He had forty five
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: or sixty one, Jomo fifty seven as well, get started
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: in defense there fifty seven snaps, seventy seven percent on
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: the defensive line. And then the only guys who played
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: every snap were Bond, Blanket Ship, Mitchell those three. Now,
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: excuse me, dejene Bond, blanket Ship and Mitchell Apps as
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: we expected would played. He started in City Brown, by
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: the way, didn't get a defensive snap.
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: No surprise, Yeah, no, not a surprise at all. And
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: if people want to knock the Eagles defense for giving
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: up the field goal drive at the end of the
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: game and then the field goal drive in the overtime,
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: I would just say this, Uh, the Eagles defense had
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: to against thirteen Chargers possessions because of all of their turnovers.
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: All right, they give up a touchdown on the first
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: drive and that wasn't good, But some of that is
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: just first fifteen and script. And you know Kamani Vedeal
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: broke one down the left side, so that that's gonna happen.
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: But after the touchdown drive, here are the next twelve
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: possessions for the Chargers. Punt, punt, fuel goal after a
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: fumble recovery, so they only have a short field, great job, right, interception,
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: fuel goal, then punt punt, field goal, punt, fuel goal,
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  Speaker 1: and label. Now one of those drives wait, now, one
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  Speaker 1: of those drives was longer than forty two.
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: Yards's that's that's exceptional adjustment and rebounding. You know, the
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: first drive. I was like, wow, they better run defense. Okay,
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: they got to tighten up, and they sure as hell did.
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: And the best testament you could you could have about
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: how great their defense was. We talked about Lad McConkie
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: leaning in and they were so fit. He looked frustrated.
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: They were so physical with him. Q had the one
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: penalty in the second half, but they did a great
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: job really overall. Keenan Allen, he did have a catch late,
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: but Kamani Vidal on the broken play where they Herbert
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: had nowhere to go. He got Vidal and the left
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: flat and that was it. But the defense has brought it.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: They were just phenomenal. And what could you say In
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: the pressure, Jayatun had a great game. Two and a
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: half sacks. They had seven sacks credit for eleven hits.
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: The pressure rate was ridiculous. ESPN put it up during
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: the game. It was super high.
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was over fifty one point.
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm very interesting to see what the blitz
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: rate was. But man, their pressure was great in BG.
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: By the way, we should note this play the most
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: snaps of the season by far as. As a matter
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: of fact, it was one of these things, and I
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: know you saw it. He played. They had him playing inside, yeah,
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: which we thought might happen because with no Carter's got
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: He's got his legs back. I mean, he definitely definitely
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: looked like it. And last year, you know, obviously he
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: got he got unfortunately got hurt and so far against
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: the Rams, but he looks like he could still play.
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: Here that the overall man for whatever happened against Chicago,
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: they got the message. I'm sure the coaches got after
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: him a little bit in the classroom, brought the energy
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: and they were phenomenal.
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: They were, And I honestly think that even with the
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: seven sacks, I have a feeling when we talked to
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: Greg Cosell, he's going to mention how many of them
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: were coverage sacks. They were not immediate treasures. Herbert held
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: onto the ball. Like you mentioned, he could not get
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: the ball to Maconkey. I think Cooper Gene might be
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: the silent MVP of the back end because he seemed
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: to be all over him clearly. Dori Jackson, you know,
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: had an interception first by an Eagles cornerback this year,
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: not Nickel cornerback. We know Cooper had one a week
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: or two ago.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had the pick. Yeah.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you said, Epps came in made a big
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: third down hit. This that I felt that the back
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: and was responsible for why the to help them run
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: and get dominant, but that you still have to make
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: the plays and finishes. Kobe Nicobe Dean to me was amazing.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: I mean he was unblockable. Again. He blew up with
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: Marion Hampton like that guy is a small dude, just
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: in the way. And and Nicolby I think might be
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: smaller than Marion Hampton. Oh he is.
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's about two inches short. And it's interesting.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: And then you mentioned Dean to have the incredible sack strip.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: He also have the one where he looked frustrated because
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: he had Herbert. He blissed, Yeah, he had him. He
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: had him and Herbert. You know, Herbert was a big
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: time running quarterback at Argon and he really has not
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: run very much comparatively. But it's interesting because they got them.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: He looked you saw the camera shots on Herbert. He
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: looked frustrating because they got to him. It's just a
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: shame to mar The game is that Herbert had his
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: back breaking scrambles, but overall the defense was mostly elite,
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: and you're right, coverage was helped their pressure, there's no
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: doubt about it. But you know, overall the offense didn't
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: handle themselves in but defensively to where jayalen Son is
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: getting better and better and better, you know, for he look,
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: he's not going to be a leap pass rusher, but
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: he's getting much better in that area. They had a
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: number of run blitzes going on there as he Techler
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: Byron Young. Techley didn't start because they opened up with
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: a four down set, but he played the most snaps
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: of any of the backups. Oh and also you might
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: have seen him Robinson number ninety five where he said ugly,
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: crazy looking helmet. Yeah, yeah, he got in there, Yeah
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: he got He got seven snaps.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: I believe how many did Jahad Campbell play, by the.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: Way, seven Yeah, because I remember you asked me and
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: I said, yeah, he's definitely in there because they panned him. No,
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry he had nine. Don't want to asshort him.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: So overall we're going to just real quickly. He told
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: you about early on who played one hundred percent of
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: the snaps. Dean played sixty five snaps, eighty eight percent
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: of the snaps. Jalen Phillips, who had some quality rushes,
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: fifty nine snaps eighty percent of the of the snaps.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: Ojomo fifty seven seventy seven one bonehead play that there
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: was that was a textbook leverage play. You just can't
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: do that. You have to know better, by the way,
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: he had eight special team snaps, one bad one. Jordan
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: Davis had forty five sixty one percent of snaps, very
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: effective game. Nolan Smith had some plays against the run
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: fifty nine percent, jaelex Son forty just forty snap fifty
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: four percent. He was rotating with Smith, barrin jungle. We
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: mentioned thirty two snaps forty three percent, BG thirty STAPs
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: forty one percent, and eight STAPs on specials. How about
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: that Campbell nine snaps just twelve percent, eleven snaps on specials,
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: robson seven. You might have seen number thirty five Michael
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: Carter late in the game. He two snaps eleven on specials.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: Amazing by the way, to our point. After that leverage
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: penalty by Moro Jomo, which felt like it was coming
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: at the worst time for the Eagles on fourth and one,
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: right on the field goal of course, they get a
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: fresh set of downs first and goal at the nine.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: The Chargers then run two plays and get minus seven yards.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable. The defense, the energy, whatever, you know. It's funny.
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: Right before the game with Jeff, I and Greg went
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: up getting the game called correctly, But before it, I
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: was going to text you, dude, I have a feeling
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: you're somehow are going to win this game because it's
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: La said that.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have the same feeling. I felt weird that
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: we all picked against the Eagle change.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, me too. I had a twenty four to
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: twenty bolts and they won twenty two nineteen, and it's
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: definitely in this is their eighth year of the show.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: One of the strangest games. You mentioned it for one
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: offense the off the offense put the defense as such
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: bad predicaments, and you read earlier it's really interesting the
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: timeline of of all these charges rise. Where you would
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: think the Eagles defense would be exhausted, they weren't. That's
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: the other part about it, where people remember how people
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: were saying, it's fair, it's fair to bring it up
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: because they look gassed maybe a little bit against the Bear,
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: so as sure as hell didn't.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: No, I mean maybe maybe at the end, but I
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: do I would credit Justin Herbert a little bit more
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: because I thought that for that he had a well.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: First of all, there was a penalty on Mitch Quinnon
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: that was questionable DPI he he got.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: If you watch it now, you could say it's questionable.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: You can't restrict movement by holding. That's what's true. True,
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: that's fair, and Mike Prayerr told me right. But the
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: problem I have with penalties like that, so I think
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: it might have been still, I can't remember. It was
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: harder still on A J. Brown. He the corner clearly interfered,
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: but it was the problem is you would see it
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: as hand fighting. That's why they didn't call it right.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: It's just so inconsistent. That's the one issue. What is past,
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: what's what's p I.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough fair? That's sort of why I said. It
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: wasn't like an egregious one, but it was there so
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: that aided the drive. And then there was the third
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: and four run by Herbert up the middle where he
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: was dragging guys. I mean that one you just sort
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: of tip your cap and say the guy just willed
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: his day. We've seen Jalen Hurtz do that a hundred times.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: I've never been a big Justin Herbert guy, but I
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: gotta say he wasn't good because of his hand. He's
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: clearly his passes weren't great. He was fumbling around in
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: the not fumbling, but like jumping around. He didn't know
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: what he was doing. He really put the team on
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: his back with his runs and keeping certain plays alive
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: in a way that was very impressive to me. It
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't his best throwing game, but I mean he really
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: I don't get to see Justin Herbert that much, and
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I I always thought he was a little overrated, but
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: I got to give him all the credit in the
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: world that third and four, on the last drive, he
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: converts running up the middle with his hand taking a beating.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: All he did nothing that hand. Now, who I thought
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: he was going to play a conservative game, not at all.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Well. By the way, he also a was under center
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: and and uh, I think it was Akman. I couldn't tell.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was whoever the official. The
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: ESPN had the former official in the booth. M H.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was him, but clearly, uh,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I think might be that official because what's that? Was
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: it McCauley, Harry McAuley. But I think Byron Young went
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: after his hand. Yes, yes, if you put a question
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: mark is like, wait a minute, was that Byron ninety
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: four trying to go after his hand? It looked like
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: it he was impacted. And by the way, we have
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: to mention part of why the Eagles did so well,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: not only did the boat obviously that they have two
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: starting tackles after the season, Trey Pipkin's got hurt. He
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: got hurt in the second quarter, didn't return. And Bobby
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Hart is one of the true all time journeymen NFL linemen.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Who I mean, I remember three or four years in
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: talking to clubs, who sALS tape this? This guy will
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: never make it. Give this guy credit. I thought he retired.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: He didn't represented for many years by former fullback Tony Page,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: remember him for the Jets. Tony and I would joke
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: one year Tony had number forty nine of full back
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: ten rushing touchdowns. You know, Tony with robbyout go ahead.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I give the charges all the credit in the world.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Eagles should have looked like that, to
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: be honest with you, because that's how the Eagles typically
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: look against a team with three or four backup linemen.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: They end Jalen car That's a big deal, dude.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I agree. I'm not taking anything away. I'm just saying
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: that they did their job. You're supposed to annihilate a team.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, they still have a lot of first rounders
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: and second rounders, the third rounders up front, and they
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: did their job. They did what they were supposed to do,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: and that was good. Yeah. Yeah, justin Herbert just willed
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: them in a way that I was really impressed with. Well,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I do think that the ceiling for
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the Chargers is pretty pretty low though because of it sucks.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: But I want to ask Greg because Greg will do
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: this because he's pointed out against running quarterbacks, the quarterbacks
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: are round the ball. Whatever particular game he'll point out,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: you know what he'll say, like, what were they trying
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to do in that game? I think it was you
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: pointed out or wanted the Eagle's opponents. It might have
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: been Minnesota, Well, hurts had to run where they just
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: they want the defense went brain dead, like they clear
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: they they didn't play the responsibility the way that they're
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: thought he could tell. I'm going to ask him as well.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: They were Eagles defense is phenomenal. They did a great
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: job after a tough first quarter against the run. I
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: do wonder if they play the responsibility. He may not know.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: He'll tell you. When he doesn't know, he can't tell.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I mean there were not a lot of wide open
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: runs for Herbert.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: No. That was yeah, let's get the offense in thake
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: thirty seconds here. But overall, to summ it up, defense
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: is great. They brought the energy. I wonder for folks
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: you could tell us of the comments if you went
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: to the game, by the way, because we know we
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: have a lot of Southern California listeners. I wonder it
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: looked like the crowd was pretty good because they panned
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: to it with a lot of Saquon jerseys. Yeah, yeah,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I saw number nine Nick Folls jersey. I think I
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: don't know who else it could be. But anyway, overall,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the defense brought it. It was It was good for
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: them to get their mojo back.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the Chargers got booed coming out of
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the tunnel, so I was pretty sure it was a
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: very highly I know. Yeah, when they shoot it on TV,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: they were out with flags and people got booed, and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: then there was a whole lot of coup in the
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: game whenever break up, and there was also a lot
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: of booing, and I assume that was Eagles fans against
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the Eagles offense.
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  Speaker 1: Along the way in trying to fix this offense or
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  Speaker 1: rectify it, we've seen different wrinkles, you know. We've seen
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the under center that was introduced around week five or
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: week six and then working play action off that and
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: it's and we've seen Jumbo, right, They've done that a
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: little bit. It felt like they're most recent solution or
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: attempt to rectify the offense was a lot more spread
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: empty formations for Jalen Hurts. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: It Usually that's a formation that Hurts likes to gain
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of yards on design keepers, which he's been
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: doing a little bit more over the last few weeks.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: But he didn't really have success there, and I'm not
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: sure really did anything for the offense. I'm not sure
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: if any wrinkle in itself was going to do much
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: more than win a game one particular week at this point.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: And I just I just would love to know the
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: science behind why they have to wait till the last
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: second to get the ball snapped every embarrassing. It's actually
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: me intentional, right, I mean they do it every game.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I can't. No one know. It's nototential that this is embarrassing.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: It's but they could snap the ball early. I mean
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: they are a good no huddle team when they want to.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I mean they for a reason.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: The issues no no, the issues happened last season with
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: getting the ball late. This this season, it's I've never
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: seen this in my career's twenty seven years of cover
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the business. Yeah, I've never seen a team that cannot
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: get the ball in the remotely on time. You can't.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Why is it? You see the clock on our ten seconds,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: It's like this is a shot clock for the NBA. What
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: is Why can't they get the damn ball in?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: That's why I was convinced it was intentional, because I
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: can't imagine you'd be doing this this long into the
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: year and not fix that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: May listen, maybe a small percentage are, but the reporters
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: rightfully have asked Nick that and he's explained to it
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: why it takes longer. I'm sorry, there's just some kind
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: of issue we don't know about, and it's hard to
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: know on why the coaches know. But as we dig
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: into this offense here, Yeah, I'm not sure what is
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: wrong with Jordan Mailatta. I just he's obviously and I
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: had a great year where we've pointed this out on
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: inside the tape. Jordan's not hurt in terms of the
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: injury put he's just not on it right. Don't know
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: what happened. Dickerson left the game briefly for twelve snaps
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and to came in diction under the CAF injury. Jurgen's
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: had some STAPs heat. He'd like that back. Some were
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: really good. Steen has had an inconsistent year. Fred Johnson.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: We'll see what Greg says or other people we talked
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: to around the league, great Eagles state, and see how
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: he played. But quite frankly, it was an inconsistent offensive
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: line performance.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Can I just say there's one player that sticks
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: out to me that was not good on Fred Johnson.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: You probably remember it. The Chargers came with a three
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: man rush and they still I think it was Mac No,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: was somebody Agabonia. Somebody beat Fred Johnson like right off
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the snap and forced hurts to his left. It wasn't
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: an interception player. I think he had to throw it
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: off balance. But my god, you can't how often did
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you say, why three man rush? You never rushed for
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: the three man Why are you doing? I don't even
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: think the Chargers expect. They were just trying to get
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: eight and coverage on a third down and at the
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: back rush you text.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: It's funny you text me as soon as you did.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: He said, did you see that was a three man rush?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I said, yeah, that was bad. Yeah, And Agnia came
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: off ir that that was not good. And then Jason Oh,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: the former Jason Away Dafa dafe O way, he bailed
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the Eagles out on that penalty. Yep, came the first down.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: But now here's why I thought Eagles want to heavy
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: eleven personnel. Remember Molden went down with a hamstrey injury,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Darwin James left the game, would come back with a
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: head injury, and they had another defensive player get hurt.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: So I totally know why they did that, but I
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: gotta bring it up. We continue to bring this up.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: We're gonna do it every week. Their insistence on I
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: know when they play twelve, it'll never be cam Loto,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be Kkentara. And it's one thing if they
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: throw to him, they never throw to him. What is
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: the point? Good? Soon? Good? Soone, help me give me
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: a lifeline. I can't take this anymore.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: How many snaps did he play? You have the snap
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: counts in front?
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so let's get to offense, right, Yeah, we'll
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: just roll these down, Fred. The Eagles had seventy one
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: offensive snaps. Johnson, my lot of steen hurts. Jurgens played
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: all seventy one, Brown sixty nine ninety seven percent, Smith
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: sixty nine ninety seven percent. God Ar did a really
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: good game. Go to see him and hurts. Get that
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: boy there. They're continuing to get that chemistry going on that.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: They love that flat pass play action hilario. Yeah, yep, yeah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: they love that one sixty six snaps ninety three percent.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Dickerson because he got hurt fifty nine eighty three percent,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Barkley fifty eight eighty two percent, dots in again more
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: twelve more, eleven dots in thirty five forty nine percent.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Darius Cooper had a nice catch, played a lot on offense.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I know that he's sort of a blocking receiver taking
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: over for Johnny Wilson. They miss him, no doubt on
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: that on that role. Coup played twenty one snaps thirty percent.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: That's a lot. This stunts me. He played more than Calcatara.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what I was saying. They they seem
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: to want to go more spread empty. Yeah, which four
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: or five wides, so you're getting a next wide receiver
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: on the.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: By the way, did you see the last one they did?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: They went, they went, they went five, They went empty,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: gut and gun and hurts hesitated. It didn't look like
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: he had the inside like they've had some gun runs
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: where he went right up the middle of the seat
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: late in the sea the final quarter here and of
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: the season, but in this game that didn't happen. He
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: had a nice eight yard run outher than that, he
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: didn't do anything running it. Kalcultara had fifteen snaps twenty
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: p twelve filling in Chipley and Bigsby only had seven each.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Bigsby one character for four yards. Barkley had, you know,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: other than the big run, it was very mid level
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: running the football with Barkley. He had now where they
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: did well for those wanting it to happen. They had
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: it off tackle runs, they did well inside terrible as usual. Yep,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: it is what it is. I just don't know why
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Biggsby can't get get five to seven carries. What is
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: wrong with doing that? They won't do it. Shipley, by
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: the way, let all offensive players with twenty one steps.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, he actually tied. It was
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Shipley lat too. Grantson with the one great special teams
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: play those offensive players at twenty one leading overall. Ringo
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: doesn't play defense anymore at twenty nine and Bennett, by
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the way, did not play on defense as expected. Yeah,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: because Vick is no confidence and then they could play defense
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: for them.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: So that was not a functional run game. I don't
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: care what one hundred and twenty two fifty two came
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: on a play that was basically a gadget. It was
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a fake at work. Was for me, no, no, no, listen,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I get it at work. But I'm saying, like, if
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you're looking for signs of good blocking, good offensive scheming,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: that's not It's like a flea flicker. You don't say
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: that is the greatest, most rhythmic passing game. It's a
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: gadget that worked. If you took away the fifth that
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: that play he averaged he had ninety He had seventy
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: yards on nineteen carries, which.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Is not great. And the only thing they did well
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: is runoff tackle and then it did work.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: But right, and even that, I think his first two
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: runs he had what like a fourteen and an eleven
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: or a sixteen and eleven on the first two runs
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: of the game. His first two runs were really good,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I believe.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he had yeah and
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: then he had a bunch where okay, inside they crushed them.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as usual, I had about fifteen runs for like
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: forty yards on everything else. So that's that's awful.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Not good enough, right, it's clear. And and this is
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: the first year with this group, obviously, but and this
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: is again our eighth season. They have a below average
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: offensive line performance the season. That's really the way they played.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, true, surprising, surprising that this shocking that they're eight
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: That pass protection is good, but run blocking isn't worse.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: By the way you say that their past protection has
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: got worse.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: There's still Yeah, you'll see guys miss out. But there
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: were plenty of times where Jalen hurts injury it had
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: most then most quarterbacks are privy to. Certainly Herbert did
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: not have that.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: No, no, because with with with the mixshift offensive line.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: But they're not past part they're not nearly as good
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: as they were earlier. Where we go, Wow, the passport
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: is really good, Yeah, so hurts. Listen. Here here's the
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: thing again, turnovers must be graded. We playing you to
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: start to show how coach is grade. He had a
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: just he had a thumbs down game, not just because
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: of the picks, it's indecisiveness. But then again when he
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: is decisive. Yeah, he had it. He had he had
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: actually anticipation.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Throw the twenty eight yarder Avante Smith in the fourth
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: quarter was one of the greatest throws he made all year.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: It was beautiful.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's I don't know, I don't go by
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: TV copy and when he has that glaze, Look, I'm
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: any quarterback could have that. But he was certainly, as
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: you said earlier, agree, he was not in any kind
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: of total rhythm overthrowing. Hold on to the ball. Everyone
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: saw it. I saw, we all saw it. The ball
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: he looked. He Stertic Brown on the crosser, didn't throw it. See,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: this has nothing to do with coaching. That's on the quarterback.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: See as were there the the Petullo haters. You could
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: there's plenty you could criticize petula over and other games.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: This is not one where you go it's a badly
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: called game. Yeah, the rock combinations, we've called it, We've
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: talked about that. We know it's also simplified. It's what
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: people should point out. Part of coaching is you don't
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: call things you don't believe your quarterback and handle. That's coach.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: It's called coaching.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: That's why the offense looks the way it does, by
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the way, I.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Mean that's I can't tell you how many coaches I've
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: talked about that we don't give our quarterback things he
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: can't do right. But yeah, it's Hurts was not good.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: But you isolate throws, which coaches do, and you go, Okay,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: there's something you can build on. But you said it best. Overall,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: this offense is so choppy. You don't know what you're
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: getting from game to game. You pretty much know what
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: you're getting from the defense. Then nobody's perfect. You're not
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: gonna play great every game that they had the Bad
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Bears game that was pathetic. But overall, there's nothing. When
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: you talk about identity, I call it hanging your hat.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: There's nothing this offense can hang their hat on. Nothing.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: You just made me think of something in how you're
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: describing Hurts. He makes the hard plays look easy, like
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: that beautiful pass DeVante Smith, Like almost every deep he throws,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: which is supposed to be a low percentage play, but
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: he puts it right Steelhouse, Yeah, lower percentage right. He
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: makes the hard plays look easy, but he makes the
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  Speaker 1: easy ones. And I don't play quarterback. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 1: like the ones where Troy Aikman are saying, man, he's
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  Speaker 1: right there, you're looking, He's right there, he's there, he's there,
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  Speaker 1: he's there. He makes those hard and it's it's so
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  Speaker 1: confounding because you know how much talent he has enough
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  Speaker 1: to make some really difficult throws look routine, But why
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  Speaker 1: can't he make the routine plays That confounding?
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: All right, Brad Childress would say this about Tavaris Jackson.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: He needs to make the routine plays routinely. That was
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite all timelines. We need to use
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  Speaker 2: that more. Yeah, hopefully are Andrew de Check will talk
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  Speaker 2: to coach Childress as he has in the past.
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  Speaker 1: That would be good.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: But overall it's like the positives are at times a
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: past game look actually pretty good. But again it's spotty
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Brown getting the ball crossers by the way to Brown.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: For people wanting that they got it, got it, inclusion
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: got it, they had one, they had one, they had one.
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  Speaker 2: Screen didn't get quite what they wanted.
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  Speaker 1: It should have been. The blocking was pretty bad bad. Yes, yes,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: it was the right play call, it was the good
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  Speaker 1: it was the right look, it was the right play call.
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  Speaker 2: Execution poor, Yeah, see see that's the part. It's I
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: was like, Okay, they tried to run early. They try
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: to get hurts into rhythm. They were FROs to be made.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: They're some worth and we're not turnovers. But again, to
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: sum this up, you just can't say you said it again.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: You're down. You're down. Fourteen weeks. You still don't know. Yes,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: they want to be a running team. They don't run
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: the ball well. That probably will never happen based on
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: what we've seen we've had fourteen weeks. We don't need
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: a guess. We know that they've ran the ball well
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  Speaker 2: consistently in one game that was against the second emits
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: the Giants. They just they are what they are. Their
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: defenses mostly carry them this season. Jake Elliot missed another
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: field goal. We need to mention that, dude.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: If that's five in or point in the last yeah,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: five or six weeks, that's not good.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get it. Yeah get it, I know, I know,
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  Speaker 1: Let's not, uh you know, I mean Jake Elliott's been
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just bringing it. He's going through it right now.
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  Speaker 2: He's going in his face so that he's Kickers sometimes
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  Speaker 2: go through it, and he's going through it right now.
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  Speaker 1: right before, I just want a quick summary here before
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  Speaker 1: you get out of here, because we've zeroed in on
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: everything from the game, but we really should talk about
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  Speaker 1: what this means long term. I mean, they've got Raiders
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  Speaker 1: coming up. They should be able to beat the Raiders.
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  Speaker 2: I probably will.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there'll be much to take from it.
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  Speaker 1: Even if they beat the Raiders by fifteen, then you
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  Speaker 1: got two versus Washington with a Buffalo sandwich in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't feel like this is too I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel think they're gonna go own. This is not
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  Speaker 1: like twenty twenty three to me, But it's not that far.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, certainly, if they lose the Raiders, then it's
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: then it's just def Con five. But I just don't
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: know about this team, Adam. I agree with a whole
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: lot of confidence that there are anything more than a
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  Speaker 1: first round playoff team here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, and here's why it's not like
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: twenty three because if you remember the offense collapse late,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I mean down the stretch, they were terrible. Yeah, that's
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: when that's when the Brian Johns stuff started. Get it come.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: That's why, that's why Brian Johnson got cannon adition, because
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: he was in between Hurts and Sirianni that then we
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: don't need to rehash that. But the defense is it
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: is a pretty really good defense. Obviously very well coach.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: It's right now, they have no offensive identity. We know
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: what they want to do. They can't do it, but
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: they're going to have ten or eleven wins. They're only
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: a game in half up. But if you look at it,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: it's home against the Raiders, win at Washington on the
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Saturday five o'clock game, ridiculous time. But anyway at Buffalo
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: and then the Washington game at home and week eighteen,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: we don't know what time that'll be and then if
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: you look at the Cowpokes schedules, it's hard.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: It's got some easier.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they host the Vikings, then they host the Chajas
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: than at Washington and at the Giants, so it's a
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: little bit harder. But anyway, Eagles most likely win division.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: But you're right, I can't disagree with you. It's just
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: confounding this offense. It's just it's it's I can't wait
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: to talk to Greg because I wonder we're like Greg,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: because it's only what the tape tells him. Ryan, it's
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: he's seeing the same tape and a grading like a
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: coach would. I'm curious what he's going to say about
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: this offense that was it the same as it was
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: it better or worse than usual? We don't know, say no.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Doubt about it. We will hear from Greg, We'll hear
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  Speaker 2: but watch what Aaron's watching. There's a story to it.
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  Speaker 2: Should I give it away?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? For Lane?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, no, no no. Why Why Aaron is wearing that
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  Speaker 2: that jersey that he wore?
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  Speaker 2: Right the game was because who went off in that game?
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead?
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh oh yes that was the Detroit Lions again.
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  Speaker 2: You got it? Was it?
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  Speaker 1: McNabb. I don't think it was, Nay, wouldn't you hurt
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  Speaker 1: that day? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It might have been, I said, Aaron, is that? Wait?
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  Speaker 2: Is it the Kevin Curtis game? He goes, Bingo, you
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  Speaker 2: got a memory? I said, because those jerseys were terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Yes they were. They were very ugly. Great stuff though. Yeah,
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