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25W: The Celtics Go Down in Flames + Logan Ryan In Studio & Talks About Meeting Tom Brady for the First Time, His Crazy Recruiting Story and being a rookie in the NFL + MJ or Pippen: By the Numbers · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: This is a podcast call twenty five Whists, Stop your
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  Speaker 1: Playoffs and the Awaro whizz. So, yeah, it's too bad,
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: but what did you expect. It's a podcast called twenty
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: five Whistles twenty wine. Yeah, let's get the shows arre
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: all right? Coming up a little later on NFL Cornerback
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Safety defensive Back, logan Ryan pretty Cool came to the studio,
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: sat for almost an hour where we talk about high
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: school recruiting his dad make him making a play offensive
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  Speaker 1: line back in the early days, just so he knew
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  Speaker 1: what it was like, getting drafted by Bill Belichick, the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings, getting Tom Brady to sign something, all
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  Speaker 1: that coming up in a little bit. You can follow
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  Speaker 1: Logan on Twitter at Real Logan Ryan. I don't want
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: to pass off that too quickly. We'll come back to it,
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: but we got to get right to it, Kevin, let's
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: do this before we get sad. I want to get
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: happy being a Celtics fan. Game six tagged me through
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: it because wow, what up then and down then up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while since I felt like that
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  Speaker 2: as a fan. And it went from the ultimate low
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  Speaker 2: to the ultimate high in a matter of what point
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  Speaker 2: two point four seconds? And I haven't. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: was talking about it a couple of days ago that
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  Speaker 2: it compares to the whole Malcolm Butler, not necessarily because
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  Speaker 2: Butler actually won Super Bowl, so that's different. But from
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: being dang, we're gonna lose this, our season's over. Is
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: like marsh score touchdown here, Yeah, this is it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the Falcons being up twenty five a half. Man, We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna lose this game. But I mean, snap of a finger,
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  Speaker 2: everything changes and you're freaking out and you're jumping up
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  Speaker 2: and down and you're screaming and you're enjoying it. But
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  Speaker 2: then you got to remind yourself the next day, you like,
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  Speaker 2: dam we gotta win another one.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever they watched back on the jumbo Tron because both
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: teams were watching it right after it happened, and you
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: see that the ball was out of his hands with
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: point one seconds left and Celtics went crazy. That was
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  Speaker 1: an awesome thing to see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, ah, so cool it was. It was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It was so cool, and you know what, they're for
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  Speaker 1: sure gonna win Game seven because Game seven is back
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: in Boston. And then when I started to read things
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: like Miami, they didn't even book a flight back to
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: Miami after the game. They booked a flight to Denver.
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: Didn't even book a flight back to Florida. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: They've already booked a flight after Game seven to go
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  Speaker 1: to Denver to get ready for the Nuggets in Boston.
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: Game seven. You gotta feel good before the game starts,
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  Speaker 1: at least, right, absolutely right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Better? But I will say, like I wasn't totally
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  Speaker 2: confident yet.
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  Speaker 1: They're an eight point favorite. I know.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it was all serious except for one game.
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  Speaker 1: Though, an eight point favorite. So it starts and Tatum
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  Speaker 1: goes down first play, and that set the tone for them.
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  Speaker 2: Not saying that's why they lost. Obviously they still should
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  Speaker 2: have won. Jaden Brown is a whole different subject, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: first play kind of set the tone, and you could
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: tell kind of deflated their team a little bit, a
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  Speaker 2: little energy. The crowd was still into it.
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  Speaker 1: Tatum also had I know, fourteen points, eleven rebounds. Eleven
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: rebounds was big because he did have to change what
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: he was was. Then you want him scoring, you want
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  Speaker 1: to be in that guy. He wasn't able to be
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: that guy, but he did turn into a guy that
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: was playing a bit of a different game. You just
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  Speaker 1: need to Brown, You just need some of those other
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  Speaker 1: guys to step up scoring wise.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel like that was like that? Was it
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: that when you need when browns your leading score? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And our offense was just so like stagnant. It's just
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: we're just sitting around there jacking up three. Jalen Brown
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  Speaker 1: would come down, drib the ball three times and jack
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  Speaker 1: up a three from thirty five feet out.
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  Speaker 2: There's no movement. They ran some zone that gave him trouble.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like start penetrating the zone, getting in there
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, then kick it out maybe and try
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  Speaker 2: to jack up a three. But I think they show
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  Speaker 2: what twenty percent from three, So it was awful.
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: Wes Spaulstraw, he will throw a zone on you for
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  Speaker 1: like three possessions and right when you're starting to go okay,
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: we'll boom, he's back in man, Like he switched his
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: defense as quick. I was trying to think about x
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: Spolstra where it's just kind of his his story of
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: he went overseas to work on some basketball team and
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: like I don't remember the country what was called Algeria,
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: but wanted to get back in here at the States,
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: and so you know the old story about him going
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: to the tape room in Miami, that's what he did.
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: They wanted to build up it so he has what
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  Speaker 1: he did. He sorted logging tapes, quickly moved his way up.
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: Freaking pat Riley retired. Spoilsh is like eleven, he gets
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: the head coaching job. I remember when he got that job too.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's basically Lebron's team.
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  Speaker 2: He does not do much.
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  Speaker 1: And I felt the same way.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think he was any good. I was like,
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: he's probably whatever, and then here we are a decade later,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, yeah, he's pretty damn good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Tatum forty two minutes, fourteen points, eleven rebounds, four assists.
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  Speaker 1: Brown forty three minutes, nineteen points, eight rebounds, five assists.
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  Speaker 1: But Tatum still played basically the whole game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jalen I think I had seven turnovers.
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: Not good. Really, Yeah, I can't even dri Derek White
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: thirty six minutes, eighteen points, he wrote from last game
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: the key stats from the Heat. Butler twenty eight points,
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: seven rebounds, six assists, three steals. But I tell you,
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: Kayla Martin, I'd never seen him play like that before.
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: I mean he just took over third quarter, first half
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter. He took it over until no
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: one needed to take it over anymore. They just needed
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  Speaker 1: to play even Yeah, he was amazing. I got on
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: DraftKings and I was like, oh, you know what, because
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: the Celtics were down about eight, and I said, let
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: me go look at the line because I felt like
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: Celtics gonna make this close, and so I thought, if
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: it's not too much. It was the Heat minus four
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  Speaker 1: and a half. And I was like, no way, I'm
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  Speaker 1: touching that. No way I'm gonna bet that because I
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: don't think the Heat win the game by four points.
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: If they do, it'd be one or two. So I
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: stayed off of it, like idiot. Of course, so I
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: pick wrong all the time when it comes to the NBA.
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the final score. I remember one point.
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  Speaker 1: It was twenty points.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was nineteen. It was I turned
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: it off, you did, oh yeah, three minutes left they
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: were done by twenty. I was like, yep, I'm done.
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: Well. If I would have done that, I would have
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: turned it off, but I'd check on my phone anymore. Oh,
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: I just to make just to make sure I wasn't
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: missing it.
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: Great come back, but then do you turn it back
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  Speaker 2: on if they do come back?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, I sure do. Yeah. Martin had twenty
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: six points, ten rebounds, three assists. Band played forty three
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: minutes twelve points, ten rebounds, seven assists. I'm sorry, man, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think that if it went seven and back
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: to Boston and that Miami would win. Yeah.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody did.
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: They tried to hand Jimmy Butler the trophy for the
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. Is that the bird trophy? Or is the
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: other one the Lair bird Trophy? Yeah, it's a it's
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: a bird one bird. And he was like, I want
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: touch that, I want touch the other. I'll touch the
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: later one. We get it.
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you think Kaylen Martin should have won it the MVP. Yeah, no,
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: he was so good, all serious.
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: He was, but he was so good in that, Yes
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: he was really good, but that nobody expected him to
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: be good, so he seemed to even better. Good point,
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: and you know, Butler consistently was really good. It had
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: to be. It had to be Jimmy Butler, and that
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: they kept showing the club of last year. When he
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: missed the three at end of the game, and he's
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: like something i'll paraphrase, all right, we'll be bigger and
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: better next year, the same spot. We're gonna do it.
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that crazy.
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, and the heroics of Jimmy Butler may be
• 6:56
  Speaker 1: lost if they don't win the title. If they win
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: the title, Jimmy Butler has elevated himself inside the consciousness
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: of even middle NBA fans. If you're just a casual
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: NBA fan, you're just starting to learn who Jimmy Butler is.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a diehard, you've known. But if he wins
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: the title, like he goes up there, to people who
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: don't even follow basketball that much, we'll start to know
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: who Jimmy Butler is. But it's like Jokic too, right,
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people that are
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: discovering how good he is now. Yeah, even after he
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: wont t too MVPs, because difference doesn't get If I don't
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: have Basketball Sunday ticket, I wouldn't be able to watch
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: his games for the most part.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think even me as a basketball fan, I've
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: watched more Yokic than the playoffs and have probably the
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: last three years.
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: And again unless you had the package the NBA what's
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: it called league Pass? Thank you God dang. And I
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: watched probably most of his games this season, not most,
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: but most of the games that I watched from him
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: were whenever the MBID the Jokic race was heating up,
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: and it was he was the leader for the MVP
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: and people were fighting for embeid, and so I was like,
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: let me just watch more Yokice. I was just like,
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: this is crazy, Like he's just toying like a cat,
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: toying with Mount Mice whatever way you wanted to. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm sorry I started Celtics, didnt went for you.
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: I was rooting for him, for you.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I appreciate that. Thank you.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: There is something something to say for you, though, in
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: the death of your Celtics again, is that you don't
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: really know a lot of defeat and you still don't.
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: You lost games ever of these comments finals, I don't
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: feel sorry for you. Just turn this crap off. I
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: don't feel sorry for you. You have teams that win
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: all the time, so screw it. I don't feel sorry
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: for you. But your losses are almost winning the championships.
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: My losses are finishing next to last in the SEC West,
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: or winning seventy games out of one hundred and sixty
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: two as a Cubs fan, or so, I ain't doing it.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: You've won plenty of titles with the Patriots, the Celtics
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: have been awesome in your lifetime. The obviously the you're
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: Beer Bruins fan, right, yeah, not a huge one, but yeah,
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: yeah fan enough. Yeah, I mean the Red Sox, Yeah, Reds.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: Don't e get me started on the Red Sox. I
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: know now it's on the baseball you know what. I'm
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: glad you lost, now that I think about it. All right,
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: well we hit that first. Let's go to the tittle
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: tattle stupid his name ever kissed the tittle tattle Let's.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: Well, last night wasn't one of them. But what is
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: your most memorable Game seven of any sport?
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good question. Now, I mentioned the Cubs earlier.
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: I went to Game two of this World Series. I
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: believe it was twenty sixteen, and what the game two
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: or three? All I know is we got crushed. The
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: Cubs had been in world won World Series. It's nineteen
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: o eight. It was such a friendly, yet uncomfortably packed environment.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: It was awesome. We got what by the Indians, Game two,
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: Game three, Game four, Game five, Game six, We're going
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: to Game seven, baby, and I'm like, oh my god,
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: it's the same night as a CMAS. And it was
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: the first or second time they had ever asked me
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: to come on the show and present on the CMAS.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: So you're talking about I'd only been in Nashville for
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: a couple of years twenty sixteen, right, yeah, and now
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: they're invited me to come be a presenter on the CMAS.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: And I didn't do it because I wanted to stay
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: home and watch Game seven. Love it a team that
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: I had just spent hours and hours and days and
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: days and years and years following religiously, and they won
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: the World Series. It was awesome. And if I remember correctly,
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: it was the one that was delayed because it rained.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: It kept getting delayed, and that could be that could
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: have been Game six. Things are fuzzy at this point,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: but I almost felt like that was Game seven. And
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: I passed up an opportunity to present on network television
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: for the first time, a really big cool thing to
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: watch the Cubs win Game seven, and it was freaking fantastic.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: What are you seeing over there.
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: Seated at a tenth inning okay, seventeen minute rain delay? Yeah,
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: and oh that's right, and yes.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: It's awesome. That's what that's my answer. That was good.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: You know, that's the only one I'm gonna go with.
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: I'm good on that one.
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: Next question, okay, next one is where does Derek White's will?
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: Not it's not as big because they lost, but where
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: does his shot?
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: That's true. Do you know how much of a hero
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: he would have been had they won the title this year?
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: And think about that, he also lost out on a lot,
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: not just the series, but if they'd won the title,
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: that putback would have made him like Boston Royalty.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Larry Birds sealing the ball and giving
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: it to Halichik.
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: I believe that. Yeah, I know the play. I don't
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: know who he gave it to. I don't know if
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: it's Halichick. I don't think it. I think Halichick black
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: and white time, But I don't want to say, because
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: you're a Boston fan, I think Halichack' Like Wizard of Oz.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: First part of Wizard of Oz was black and white.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: Can we cut this out?
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: So the question is game winning shots the Kawhi shot
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: like seven and six ers that that was the like
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals though from the court like the top,
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: like almost a corner. That is a crazy shot. And
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: I remember just watching the people in Toronto who are
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: watching it on that screen outside of the arena. It
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: just erupting. That was a pretty good last second shot.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can go Michael Jordan game six versus
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: the Jazz, which, by the way, I was in Utah
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: and we went by the arena there and my friend
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: who's one of the coaches the Utah softball team, he
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: was like, that's there is the arena. Jordan got sick
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: flu game?
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: Oh really this last weekend?
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, so that that was one too, So I
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: would put I still put Kawhi that There's just it.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: I mean the poster of that shot wasn't even shooting.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: It was him on the ground. He's like squatting, He's
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: like down. Yeah, it's crazy, all right.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Next with referee Eric Lewis of the NBA is under
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: investigation for potentially having a burner account on Twitter. So
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: I want to know what's your opinion on burner accounts?
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: Have you ever had one?
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: Well, this story is not as controversial as you think
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: it would be. Referees are not allowed to be on
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: social media as themselves, obviously there's some rules against it.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: He's not giving away secrets. He literally was defending himself
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: and defending other referees and posting stats to go, you're
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: an idiot. This is what's really happening. If he's breaking
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: the rule, he's breaking the rule, and he should be
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: punished or fined or whatever the rule is. However, it's
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: not like he's letting people know any sort of secret
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: or tipping games or being affected that's affecting his job
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: as a referee. I didn't see any of that.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: Did you No? No, you no.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Now, the difference is in the Colangelo when he was
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: running the seventy six ers and he was talking crap
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: about the team, and he's talking about crap about Embiid
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: and he's talking about from Twitter from burner accounts like
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: he's the general manager talking crap about players. That's different.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: So me having a Burner account, Yes, but I can
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: never remember the log in. I'm gonna be honest with you.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: I can never remember the logins. And I've set up
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: a couple and I'm so afraid of Kevin Duranton myself
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: where he thinks he's on a burner account and he's not,
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: and he's on his own and he's like, oh crap,
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: and then you by the time you delete it, someone's
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: already screenshoted it. So not a big burner account guy.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: I would like to be, would would love it, would
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: love to just be firing shots of people. I just
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: I'm so in my head about posting and it's under
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: my name and now a burner account's name, So no,
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: I don't do it. I would like to do more
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: of it. I'm interested in growing in that part of
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: my life, but I'm not that learning more. All right,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: Last one, we saw a major comeback with Boston being
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: down three forcing in Game seven. What's the hardest thing
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: you've ever had to overcome professionally?
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Good question, Probably the million dollar fine by the FCC.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: The FCC won't let me be so let me be
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: me on the bitty Uh. That's a tough one. No,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: that's not gonna be the toughest. I guess suspend it
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: for that one. That was one where we kept doing
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: the show and we're just waiting for the fine. Then
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: when the fine came down in the million bucks. I
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: just kind of looked in my email. Okay, I'm still
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: doing the show. I'll just keep going. Probably when Lunchbox
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: went and robbed the store, he didn't rob the store.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: I sent him to buy some gum with pantihos on
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: his head. A stupid bit. I'm not acting like it
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: was a good bit. We were like fourteenth Place too,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: by the way, and he goes and he does the thing,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: and they held him a gun point. They put him
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: in jail. They tried to arrest me. Then they were like, well,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: we can't really arrest you didn't do anything, And I'm
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: like I know. Then they suspend all of us for
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: like two and a half weeks. I think I'm done.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I'm an idiot kid who was twenty three. Probably I
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: was like in magazines like hot Shot, like Phenom Radio personality,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: does all boom suspend it. I was like, man, nobody
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: gives a crap about that phemale and stuff. If I'm fired,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: I may never be in this. Came back on the air, apologized,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: went to number one, never looked back for ten years.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Like it was hard. That was hard for that two
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: and a half weeks. Really hard to get back. So
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: that was a really hard one to kind of get
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: my feet back underneath me and feel confident and secure
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: in my job. But man, once we had number one,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: it was on. We would never look back. And the
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: other thing was probably not knowing how to dance on
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, having no clue at all ever, ever,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: even till the end. So overcome, it was week to
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: week overcoming how this week I was gonna find a
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: way to win, just this week and not going to
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: be the best, but just survive, just survive, just keep surviving,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: just keep surviving, Just keep surviving. And then all right,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: we made to the finals. Let's freaking go. So that
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: that was a tough one too. But I'm sorry. I'm
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: sorry your team lost.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Man, gosh, I almost forgot vers. I'm sorry your team lost.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Hey, let me say this, by the way, so these
• 16:42
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• 16:44
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• 16:45
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• 16:46
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• 16:51
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• 16:54
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• 17:09
  Speaker 1: that feed. Thank you very much. That's the tittle tattle.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Stupid names the tittle tattle, all right. Interview time. Two
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: times Super Bowl champion Logan Ryan. He came to the studio,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: got to sit down in person talk about his life
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: and his career, going from a three star to a
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: four star recruit. What a freaking story. Yep, Wow, your
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: life changes like that and you didn't do anything. He
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: was like, just like that, playing quarterback in high school
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: but only getting recruit as an athlete, picking off Tom
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Brady's final passes Patriot. Just it's great. Listen to it.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I don't want to waste your time, so we'll get
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: to it. You can follow Logan on Instagram at Logan Ryan.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Here he is Logan Ryan Logan. Where do you live? Like?
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: What town I live in? Currently in Tampa, Florida. So
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: what's up in Nashville, Like, we're lucky to have, first
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: of all, super pumped you're here. Yeah, but like what's here?
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: You're here? Yeah, that's true. I can agree with that.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, I was hosting Good Morning Football
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: last week and had a lot of fun doing that
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: and got some good, good feedback, and my publicist was
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: kind of working the phones a little bit and opportunity
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: coming to your podcast, which was awesome. And I used
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: to live here, so I lived here for three four years.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: My content guys out here. I got a lot of
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: friends on the Titans. So I'm here knocking out some media.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I did hosted with Jonathan Hutton last yesterday on out Kick.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: So I'm doing some more media while my name is
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: hot and hanging out with you.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Is that the goal? Because I know you probably want
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: to you a free agent. Yeah, you're waiting for the
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: call or you like, screw the call I'm getting. I'm
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: doing media because it's awesome either or.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm still training six days a week, but
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I'm taking advantage of the opportunities. And I've always you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: when I was at Tennessee Titans, I hosted The Logan
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Ryan Show, where I hosted a radio show for two
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: three years. The show in New York hosted the NFL
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Player Podcast. I've always been like the speech before the
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: locker room guy.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Were you always that guy in high school too? Yeah?
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I was a quarterback growing up, like and uh, growing
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: up my whole life. I was a point guard. I
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: was a quarterback. I was a pitcher, so I always
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: had the ball in my hands. I was always a
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: guy to inspire. I know, you know how a lot
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: of guys say, well, you know, I kind of lead
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: by my actions, not.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I like I do both. Yeah, I felt that, Yeah,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I lead by my words. At what age did you
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: start to be because let's see, like in ninth grade,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not the athlete or I'm not comparing that, but
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to tell you my story. In ninth grade,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I got to move out play with Senior high team
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: ten eleven twelfth graders, but I didn't say anything because
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I'm the freaking ninth grader and I didn't play as
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a ninth grader. Yeah, when did you start playing? And
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: when could you actually be a vocal leader in high school?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Because I'm imagining that you were far more athletic than
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the other kids your age. Yeah.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: So when I got to high school, I started varsity
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: basketball as a freshman, but I was on the freshman
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: football team, so I led my little, you know, freshman
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: teammates on the freshman games, but I wasn't on varsity
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: and in basketball, I kind of was the point guard.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: But I mean, these kids, my brother was four years
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: older than My brother was a senior and I was
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: a freshman, and I was playing with his friends, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I felt really little compared to them, Like I was
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: like I didn't have a voice.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I just ran the place. You were playing as like
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a fourteen year old. Fifteen years old with eighteen year olds. Yeah,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: that's it. You were. You as good as some of them.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I was definitely good enough to be on the court,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: for sure. I wasn't.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I wasn't the best player at fourteen on our team. Yeah,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I knew that. But by you know, my sophomore junior year, Yeah, definitely,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: so I kind of grew into it. I would say,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: once that ball got in my hands and I realized
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: what we needed to win, and I wasn't afraid to
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: step up and demand that because I always wanted you know,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: to win more than anything else.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I was watching The Redeemed Team on Netflix. I don't
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: know if you've seen it yet. It's about it's been
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: out for about a year, but you know, the US
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Olympic basketball team got a bronze and they were embarrassed
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and they had to somehow get a new coach, get
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the players to commit in because to a lot of
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: those guys, I would get that, being twenty two and
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: rich and you just got and now they want you
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: to go train for months, and I would get why
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: some of them wouldn't want to do that. I watched that.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I loved it. Oh wasn't it awesome? Yeah? Man, I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: got a Kobe tattoo on me.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: They had to bring Kobe in that, you know, they
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: had to bring Kobe in it to really win that.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: And that was my point about leadership. And I always
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: understood and respect to Kobe because in my mind's probably
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the third greatest player of all time, top three for sure.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: And the fact that the guys were, like we were
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: in Vegas. We went to the club, we did what
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: we put in Kobe's their gloves on going to the
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: gym when they're coming in and all those guys slowly
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: started to do what Kobe was doing because he was
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: doing it and he was that leader. Yeah. So you
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: say you were vocal and by example, were you like
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: first one in, last one out type guy.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of picked up that because I was
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: never I was always like one of the best athletes,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: but there was always like a more physical freak on
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: the team. Like I wasn't like raw out of bed
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: better than everybody. I was like more skilled because I
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: worked on it. And I remember my mom would pick
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: me up in high school every day after work. My
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: mom worked at nine to five, nine to four thirty,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: and she would pick me up at like five o'clock
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: five pm, and we would get out of high school
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: at like two two thirty. So in football season, obviously
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: had practice and my mom would pick me up. But
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: out of football basketball season, the spring, I had two
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: and a half hours to kill. You know, I wasn't
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: taking a bus home, so I was just literally every
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: day Monday through Friday in the weight room, five days
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: a week, lifting for an hour or two, going out
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: to the field doing just drills that I made up.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: And then eventually more people came out there and I
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: would put a ladder drills down to a drill to drills.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: And I was like pretty much donning the drills.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was pretty much coming out with drills
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: that I would see on I mean, shoot, don't even
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: know if YouTube was out back then, but whatever I was,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I was just finding drills and doing them and doing this,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: and that was kind of leadership, right, Like I'm doing
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: these these off season workouts, but I just was like
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: waiting for my mom to pick me up.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Did you have a good relationship with the coaches? Because
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: it sounds like you love the game games we can
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: say games, and you also weren't afraid to put work in.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Were you the guy that they would lean on high
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: school and college to go all right? You got to
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: be the voice to those guys, be my voice to them, right, Yeah?
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I think so, Especially playing the quarterback position and stuff.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I just think there's certain positions in sports where you
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: expect the leader there and I kind of was that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: So I think it happened naturally mainly because of the
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: position I played. But I do remember like my junior sophomore,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: junior year when I kind of was stepping in the
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: role as varsity quarterback and stuff. I was not great
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: at pregame speeches, Like I didn't want to talk and
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I felt like a senior should talk, you know, before
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: the game. Like I was silent, and I would always
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: get really nervous before games. Still do, Like I always
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: get like a little bit nervous and tense, and I
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: just was really really quiet. And I feel like that
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: developed more in the NFL in college of having the
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: you know, taking public speaking classes and whatnot, just having
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: the confidence to go up in front of a room
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: of one hundred people and motivate them without feeling like,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: you know, a clown or say something dumb or mess
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: it up, you know, be laughed at. And I just
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: think that came in older like giving actual the speech,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: but actually just on the field, Yeah, when I'm playing
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: in between the lines, you had a leadership always came out.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Were you super educated on what was happening every game?
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Put the time in the film room? Always? Was that
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a priority? Or did you have to learn how to
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: did that later? I learned how to. I learned how
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to do that later.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: But growing up, my dad coached me when I was little,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: uh maybe up till I don't know, ten eleven years old,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: and every year, Like I said, I played, I played
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: offense and I played defense, so I didn't come off
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: the field. And I swear every year he made me
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: change positions. He's like, all right, well, last year receiver,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: this year gonna play run out to learn. Yeah, and
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: then this year're gonna do this. And then we had
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: a really good team in like eighth grade, and we
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: went in literally we went like unscored upon, Like we
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: beat everybody thirty five to nothing and didn't give up
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: a point the entire season. And on that team, we
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: had like three NFL players in like six Division one
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: wrestlers out of like eleven starters.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Like none of us went to college for sports. So
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: it was a really good team.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: But in the second half, my dad would make all
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: the skill players play O line and get the old
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: lineman the ball so that.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: You know, we would block for them. Yeah, you know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and I just felt like why are we doing this?
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: You know, But like I love my old lineman, you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I always treat them well, and I understood what it
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: was like to block. I played tight end, I played receiver,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I played running back, I played quarterback, I played corner,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I played safety, and really in the NFL really helped
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: my versatility because I learned the game from so many
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: different angles and even when I played defense in the NFL.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I think but from like a reverse quarterback perspective, like, Okay,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: what is he reading? He's probably gonna throw this because
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I'm showing him that.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: It's like you're reverse engineering. Yeah what exactly you think
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: is about to happen? Yeah? Dang. So when you were
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: in high school you play quarterback? Did you were you
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: recruited as a quarterback?
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: So that was back before they wanted like, you know,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: six foot black quarterbacks running around the NFL, Like that's
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: not the just the norm.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Now, did you feel like because you were six foot
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: black quarterback that was actually held against you? Well, they're
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: going to recruit you as an athlete.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: So happens is like everybody like, like I would say,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: half of you know, college football players probably played quarterback
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: when they were growing up because they're the best player
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: and they want the ball in their hands. But back then,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: they was say you're going to be a receiver, or
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: you're gonna be a corner, or you're gonna be a safety.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: So I knew like looking ahead, like yeah, IM probably
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: gonna end up being a corner and I played corner
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: as well, and I was ranked pretty high in New
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Jersey for it, so I kind of knew already what
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: it was, but they did. You just didn't have the
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: opportunities division one to be like, oh, you're five eleven
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: and a half and you know you're a great athlete.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: We're gonna make you play a different position, like quarterback
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: is for these type of guys. Six foot four, white,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty five pound guys.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: But now the NFL, as you see, has caught up
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: and Bryce Young, Yeah, Bryce Young is Kyler Murray's five nine, No,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: these dudes. I I remember hosting the draft in Nashville
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: when they had the draft in Nashville a couple of
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: years ago, and I was actually working in media and
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I was on the red carpet hosting these guys, and
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Quinn Williams, lift the mic up and DJ
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: DK Metcalf lift the mic way up, and like Kyler
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Murray put the mic Like I'm like, this guy is little, I.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Mean little hands, little arms.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's specially in his skill set and he
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: had to They never made him switch positions, but a
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: lot of a lot of us.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: They They were like, I don't know if you're gonna
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: go to Division one and play What star were you recruit?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I was a four star recruit, and what is life
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: like as a four star recruit? Gotta be pretty yoah man,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: it was. I mean, it's gonna be good.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: So I was really a three star coming out and
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: for most of it, and then I think the ranking guy,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Rivals ranking guy comes to check out one of my
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: games my senior year, and I was already committed to Rutgers,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: so I like had twenty five scholars.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: And later safety or what at the time, were you
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: going to Rutgers to do? What? Though? I was going
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: to Rutgers to play corner.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, I was a number one corner in Stay in
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: New Jersey, and I was like one of the better quarterbacks,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: but I was a number one at that position. Got
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: him and I was a three star committed to Rutgers
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: verbally and all that stuff. And then we play We
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: play an opening game and he comes to see our
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: game play and I get a pick six, like on
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: the first possession of the game and literally reverse engineering.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: The coach told me, if you see the quarterback roll out,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: you know it's going to be a hitch a rout
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: in front of you, a route behind you. Just bait
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: the route behind you, and any time they roll out
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: there on the same play. So the first play the game,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: I see the rollout, I see the route behind me.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I act like I'm going to go get the route
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: behind me, and I just bait him. He throws around
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: in front of me eighty yard pick six to start
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: my senior year. And that night I got a four
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: star right being four star. So what happens Notre Dame
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: calls me, Miami calls me, Penn State.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Calls from that that one star.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, now he's this level of recruit and they're like, oh,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: you don't want to go to Rutgers, come here, come there.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: It's crazy that it wasn't some tape that it wasn't
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: like a library of tape on you that changed their mind.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It was literally a recruiting service. One guy who saw
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: one game.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah and wow, and new colleges come. It's lazy. Recruiting
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: is lazy. What happens is a lot of states out
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: of state teams like Alabama is not going to come
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: to New Jersey unless one you're offered by your new
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Jersey school.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: So they're gonna let Rutgers do the work.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Once Rutgers does the work, all the other big Eiet
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: schools at the time, right, it was West Virginia, it
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: was whatever, They're like, Okay, this guy. Obviously Rutgers identified them.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: So now your conference is going to start recruiting you,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: and they start offering you. And then once your whole
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: conference offers you, and then you get that fourth star,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: then you become a national recruit. Now coaches are jetting
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: to your field, your high school and landing on the
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: thing and trying to and that's why you see guys
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: flip recruitment. So I mean, now they're getting paid, but
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: they flip recruitment so much because one thing changed. Who
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: came that was cool, I would say, Greg Gianno, when
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Rutgers recruited me, they put out all the stops. He
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: landed a helicopter on a local hospital, and so he
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: flew a helicopter in to see me. I think Iowa
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: was super dope. Michigan State was cool. But Rutgers. I
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: mean they sent people to my grandmother's funeral. My grandmother
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: passed away. They had people at the fun in a
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: role they were work, They had a Bible in front
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: of my mom. They won a whole different angle at
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: my dad. I mean they were they were pulling every
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: stop like to to get me to stay.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I feel like if I was on a jury or
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: if I was being recruited, I just flip all the time.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, Oh, that's great, I'm here. Oh that's great. Guilty,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Oh no, not guilty Michigan State. I feel like I'll
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: be doing that like crazy because I'm sure everybody's giving
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: you their best effort. They're showing you that. Like you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Chris Rock talks about dating somebody knew and he's like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't really meet me, you meet my
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: representative when you you know, it's the early version, but
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: it's the best version of the school in every way.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Like aren't they all just awesome? When you do that?
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: They they like really recruit your parents. I came from
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: a two parent background, super solid. My dad was a cop,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: was a cop. My mom worked, like I said, a
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: nine to five, So they really had my parents on lock.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: But looking back at I'm like, man, I should have
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: took that official visit to Hawaii. That's a great flight,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: great trip, should have went out there. Maybe I should
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: have took that NLV. That would have been a fun,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: little vague we.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Should do on an official visit, like you Land. Yeah,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: just a brief discris. I have no idea. You Land,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: then what what happens? Who's who's there? What's the daylight?
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: So you Land, you'll be red carpeted, black car, picked up,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: go to the school, all the coaches will be there, excited, balloons,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: catered food. And then New York Rutgers. This whole pitch was,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: we're gonna send you to New York. So you take
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: the train. In New York, they rent it out like
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: a Dave in Busters and like Times Square. So you're
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: in Times Square, You're like, gotta reunt it out David Busters.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: You're playing games. They're talking like, yeah, you're gonna like
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: we have these mccordy twins and they're all right, but
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: you're gonna come in and you're gonna play over them
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: and the like all this. But I knew they were
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: on their way out. I was gonna fill in the
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: next shoes. But they're like, yeah, they're okay. But Jason McCarty,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: this guy, I mean, you can't even get an interception.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Look at me here, you had six interceptions last year.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: We need you, right, So they tell you what you
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: want to hear. And then we got back on the
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: train of Rutgers and the coaches leave, and then you're
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: paired with a player.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: So I didn't have the mccordy twins I had.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I had a kid that was actually on my little
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: league team that I told you about that we like
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: went undefeated or whatever. So I knew him since we
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: were kids. So he kind of hosted me, and that's
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: your host, and they gave me by why they gave
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: you him right, right, because we knew each other. So
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: then so then I got one of my best friends
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: already there and he's like whatever. And then they gave
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: your host like a hundred bucks and he's supposed to
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: take you to a party and take you and he
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: was like, look, man, I'm keeping fifty of these bucks,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: like you got fifty you know. So and then you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: they try to show you girls and try to give
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: you a good night and then but the worst part
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: is when you're when you're a host, you have practice
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: the next day. I'm like, I'm not partying with this
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: freaking sixty year old kid, seventeen year old kid all
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: night and I gotta wake up at seven am and
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: run sprints like I kept that hundred bucks.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I bet some people do though. I bet they go
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: hard and then go to I mean it's just so Yeah,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: when you're younger, you can do it. Yeah, so you
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: when you get to Rutgers. Is the speed of the
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: game so much different going high school to college or
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: college to the pros? When does it adjust so much
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that you're like, okay, hold on, let me get you straight.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I think the speed of the game because everyone comes
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: from different high school. You come from from country school
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: where I mean you got eight on eight football whatever
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: in the middle of Nevada or something. But I think
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: the speed of the game is a bigger difference. I
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: think the coaching was a bigger difference for me because
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Greg Sean was such a tough coach for me, and
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: I wasn't used to getting yelled at or just like
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: negativity shouting my way or getting cussed at like I
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: wasn't used to.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, this is kind of hard environment for
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: to thrive in.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: So I think that was the biggest shock for me,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: the speed and just the coaching, because as soon as
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: you commit and day one practice stars, all that recruitings
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: out the window, like now I own, and it really
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: felt like military. I feel like like a military academy.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: It was that strict in discipline at Rutgers with him,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: and you know, well, then I went to the NFL.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I came from that academy mindset, so like the discipline
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: was there, no one could do anything I haven't done already,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: like I've been through tougher workout. So now now it's
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: all about execution and just skill, like we need you
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: here at your job to do it and use way more.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: It's way more efficient. The first time you go to
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: a college practice and it's actually full pads, what does
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: that feel like?
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Oh my, I have so many stories man, the first
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: college practice. So practice is based on what they call periods,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: and they blow the whistle in a period five minutes.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: So a practice could be I don't want to stay
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: here and get butchered on math. But a practice could
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: be twenty periods you do the math, or fifteen periods
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: or twelve or twenty four whatever, two hour practice whatever.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Our first practice was thirty six periods. It was like
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: over three hours It was in middle of July in
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: New Jersey.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: It was really hot and human on the field. I
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: had brand new cleats.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: When I was getting blisters, they made everyone tape your
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: ankles mandatory have to tape. I never taped my ankles before,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: so my ankles were stiff, my cleat's hurt. And then
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Giano had a rule you weren't allowed to take your
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: helmet off at any point in the practice, so I
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: couldn't even take my helmet off to get water. So
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I had to get water through my helmet. And I
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: just was so just equipment, uncomfortable, not used to practicing
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: that long. It just was all like all the little
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: things I guess that you're just supposed to ignore that
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I got don't even bother me. Now they all bother
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: me so much. Like at first, it was a huge adjustment.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: When you're eighteen, you're hitting twenty two to twenty three
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: year old dudes. I assume that's physically a lot more
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: taxing on you than seventeen hit and eighteen, you know
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: high school like it's young, it's an older kid versus men.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Now it's a big jump. It's hard. If
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: you see guys that come in to college true freshmen
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: and dominate like that. That's tough because the physical aspect,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: like these guys in college, you're lifting and running your
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: butt off like you are working. They're where ye had
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: nothing else to do. They're owning you. They work you.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: So I came in one hundred and seventy five pounds.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I red shirted, so I was a number one corner
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: in the state, a four star going to Rutgers. That
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: wasn't the greatest school in that recruited me. So I'm
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: supposed to come in and be a savior type of thing,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: replace the mccordy twins. And I red shirted like I
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: got crushed by all expectation pressure. And I came in
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy five pounds, and I was one
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: hundred and ninety five pounds in less than a year.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I put on twenty pounds of muscle. I couldn't even
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: dunk a basketball anymore because you had put on so much,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: so much weight. I wasn't used to carrying that weight.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I'm one hundred and ninety four pounds at thirty two
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: years old. So in the last whatever fourteen to fifteen years,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: I didn't gain one pounds, right, I just but I
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: put on twenty pounds in one year of muscle. I'm
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: squatting four hundred and fifty pounds. I'm power cleaning over
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: three hundred pounds, and that's what they want. Oh they
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: were lifting?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And are your feelings hurt that you have to
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: red shirt? When did they tell you that? Or is
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: this something that that happens in game three when you
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: haven't played at all?
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: So I kind of like, I had like a little
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: back injury and just had a rough start to it,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: and it kind of was like, Hey, you're either gonna
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: play special teams this year or we can red shirt you.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, I'm like I'm not going
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: to waste a year just playing special team. So I
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: red shirted.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: But he Giano used to red shirt like the entire
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: classes because he won an older team. So I think
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: out of our true freshman class we had twenty five commits,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: twenty five guys on four rides and not counting walk ons,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I would say he probably played four or five guys
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: twenty of us red shirted. He just wanted to backload
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: the whole roster like that, right, So now a senior
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: class or fifty year seniors twenty three years old. So
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: that just was like if you weren't a super phenomenal
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: right away, he was, you're gonna red shirt?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: What year did you leave college?
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: So I actually left as a red shirt junior, So
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I left early. I got it together and I took off.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: So I left. So your red shirt year than your
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: two years I red shirted.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: I had a red shirt freshman sophomore. Then I left
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: after I almost left after a red shirt sophomore year,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: but I left after my red shirt junior.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: It was my fourth year. So you go, and you
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I was reading some of your because it still exists,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the draft stuff or like this is his peak, this
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: is what we think his ceiling is. This is who
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: did you ever read that stuff back then? Too?
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I don't, I mean I don't, I don't know what
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: they wrote about me, but I can probably could tell
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: you what it was.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so, I mean, so they would they do
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: compare a certain player compare they're like at his ceiling,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: not quite Palamalu, but you know, and they're doing it. Yeah,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: So who did they compare you to? In college? Just
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: when you would talk to folks and they'd be like oh,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: we get to kind of see you being this type
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: of player in the NFL.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if there was an exact like
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: ceiling comp that I knew in the NFL at the moment.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: But my biggest thing is like I was super smart
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: and tough and productive, Like I had some of the
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: most productive stats, Like I was second in Biggie's history
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: in pass breakups, ahead of Devin mccordy, behind a Roll
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: ReBs By like a couple.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: And do you think that's because of your athletic ability
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: or because you your instincts. Instincts and studying was so
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: good instincts and studying.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Once I figured out the game, I would say half
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: the time now in the NFL, I played plays over
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: players like I don't care, Like Julio's one of my
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: good friends.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I had to cover Julio in Super Bowl. I don't care,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: it's Julio.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Julio only runs, Like can only run ten routes, and
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: once I figure out what they are, it can only
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: be three. So I'm gonna play these three routes right
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: based on situation and all that. So I'm paying the plays.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, the quarterbacks got
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: thrown to a spot if I could figure out that
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: spot before you figure out this, or you know, cause
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know where you're going, I gotta do some mass.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: So I always say I'm just playing high high stakes
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: blackjack out there.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Being such a cerebral guy, because again, that's the story
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: on you too, is that you were able to almost
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: predict chess moves before the chess move happened. Do you
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: ever think about coaching?
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I get asked that a lot because
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: I definitely have. I have a memory where I almost
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: remember every game I playing in the place, and then
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: I think I do a decent job of explaining it
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: to the everyday person.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: So that's why media is good in coaching.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I just don't like how many hours these coaches work,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Like it's very hard for a coach to have a
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: balance with any family life, Like they're.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Home at midnight all year round.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's a crazy profession that doesn't
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: have any balance work life balance.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: So right now not attractive to you. Would you go
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: coach college or NFL if you had to, I.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Would coach NFL or college because I don't want to
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: recruit on the road when you're off time at a
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: seventeen year old high school telling him it's going to
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: be better than Devin mccordy. You know, it's just like
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like doing that. I'm too real with kids.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I'm like, look, you're not good, but but we'll take you.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: We'll probably make you good, but you're not. You know,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: you got to earn everything here.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: You're deciding to go, and you're gonna leave Rutgers are
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: gonna go to the NFL, and they kind of have
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: you pegged, as you know, late second third round pick,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: and do you kind of have an idea of what
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: team will take you in that resent like four or
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: five teams or does everybody just act like they like
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: you until they got to make that decision.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I leave. I leave Rutgers. I got a
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: second They give you a draft grade if you want
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: to leave. Earlier gave me a second round draft grade.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: So it's all going me depending like all my combine
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: but I wasn't a combine free who.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Gave you that grade? By the way, I don't know
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: get the official you submitted to some dudes who are
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: sitting in a room. So you go the second round.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I think they have to protect you because they want
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: to keep kids in school, so they give you a
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: lower grade because they don't want kids coming out, right.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: They don't want to say you're on the first round
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: if you come out and then you slide a sixth round.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: And I really pissed. So they gave me a second
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: round grade based on production. That's like, at worst, I'm
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: going in the second round. That's that's good money. So
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Rutgers is like, no, don't go, You'll be a first
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: round next year. I'm like, I'm going I go to
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: the second round, all right. I start training and I'm
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: like one of those athletes I like, I play. I
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: can play baseball, I could play ping pong like, I
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: could play pickleball, like I can fish, I could play basketball.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: I'm like an all around like a ball athlete. I
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: guess bowl I can bowl it over two hundred whatever.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: There's guys that could literally not swing a baseball bat,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: but they can jump forty four inches and stuff.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not like that. So I had very mediocre numbers
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: at the Combine.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: And obviously I was a junior, so I didn't have
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl or all that stuff to have more
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: opportunity to be seen. So I kind of was like, oh,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: this guy just kept every time I look, I just slipped.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Someone did something at something that I wasn't even at,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: and I slipped.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: You weren't doing anything to slip. No, just because you
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: weren't able to do certain things.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you leave as a junior. There is no Senior Bowl,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: there is no so right, so I'm okay, I'm a junior.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: All I have is the NFL Combine. As soon as
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I ran a four or five, it was like, oh,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: this guy ran who this guy out of nowhere who
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: has no numbers ran a four to three. Let's because
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: they're kind of sell a story at the combine too, right,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: They want the biggest athletic freaks there. So I kind
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: of slipped. I went to the third round, New England.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: New England came to Rutgers, and Rutgers had a lot
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: of guys at the time coming out and Bill Belichick
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: and this is actually another I got all these Belichick
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: stories that just keep coming out. So when you're in college,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: there's local pro days. So in New Jersey, right like
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: the Jets and the Giants can work out the local
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: guys on their own day, and guys from all those
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: colleges in New Jersey can go do a local pro
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: day for the Jets and the Giants. So Bill Belichick
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: decides that he wants to come do a visit with
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: me on the day of the Jets local pro day.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: So I'm not going to work out for the Jets.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: The Patriots are coming to work me out privately, and
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I think only two or three teams work me out privately.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Not only didn't invite.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Purpose for right right, not only did he invite me,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: he invited about sixteen Rutgers players, so everybody, I mean,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I think we had seven guys get drafted that year.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: We led the draft with players Me, Deron Harmon, Steve Bahrnis,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: everybody that we had coming out. We had like eight
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: guys on defense, eight guys on offense. So it was
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: like a pretty much Patriot Pro Day the day that
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: was supposed to be the Jets Pro day. So Rex
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Ryan and Jets were pissed because none of the Rutgers
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: players went to their pro day. They had like Mamath
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: players go and it was like, well, Bill came in
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: and said to do this, So I remember I did
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: the thing with Bill, but I called Devon because Devon's
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: one of my good friends and he was on the
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Patriots already, was their captain. So I said, I need
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: all your drills. Give me all your warm up drills,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: give me all your dB drills. What do you guys
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: do in a workout? So Devin sent me all their drills,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: and I've been practicing with the guys for a week
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: because we knew what day this was coming. So our
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: entire secondary was practicing these drills for a week. So
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: when they come in, we crushed the workout. Then we
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: go to the film room and I'm like, oh, this
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: is what I do. I'm telling what the noseguard does.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I'm telling what all eleven players do on every defense.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: So I knew I impressed Bill and then he ends
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: up drafting me in the third round. Deron Harmon, who
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: was our free safety, in the third round as well,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: so we drafted four guys on Rutgers defense alone in
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: that draft. But I had the drills from Devon a
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: week prior and we were practicing for this workout.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: What's it like as a rookie going into the locker
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: room of the NFL where you got thirty five year
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: olds in there as well.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Crazy it was again that's another adjustment again, and I
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: just think you got to earn them with your play
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: and just being a good rookie. I was singing songs,
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: I was telling jokes. I remember I was playing really
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: well in the preseason. I actually had a pick six
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: against the Bucks who shianna want to be that coach.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: So I kind of got Schiano back with a pick
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: six in the preseason. And because he didn't draft me
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: in the second round, so I'm like, old coach, that
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: passing on me.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Dang, that had it hurt a little bit, like a
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I taking that personal.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a little personal at the time. So
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, don't draft me.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: That's fine. See what I do.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: So I uh, he actually drafted another corner as well,
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: so I end up doing that.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: So I'm playing well.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: So I'm like kind of playing with the starters like
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: when the season is about to start, like kind of
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: like in there, very different than the started my college career.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: And I remember a keep to leeve was like and
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: I think there's no more intimidating veteran you can have
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: than a keep to leave as a rookie, and a
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: key was like, yo, rookie, you gotta get his chicken
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: wings before we.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Go in away game.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: On the flight, I'm like, I'm not getting no chicken wings.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: I'm like one of the starters, like get the other
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: rookies a day. And he was like he looked at me,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: He's like, you're getting those chicken wings. And I just
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: was like, I'm getting those chickens. So I ended up
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: getting chicken wings before every road game. I had to
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: go to Skipjacks across the street a Patriot place and
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: get like three hundred chicken wings and in.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: A suit and bring buffalo wings in a suit.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: And not get any sauce on me and get pictured
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: in the planes every like pregame picture of me in
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: the plane. I had like big old bag of chicken
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: wings for the entire secondary or whatever. And I did
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: that for I did that for an entire year, and
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: I ended up starting most of that year leaning the team,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: leaning the AFC and it I had five interceptions as
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: a rookie.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: He's still getting wings even though you got fired.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Started AFC Championship, starting AFC Championship, had more picks than
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: to leave that year, and uh yeah, I was getting
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: chicken wings up to the AFC Championship, and I remember
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: we were flying to the AFC Championship and Bill was like,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: let the players sit first clipt and some other organizations
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: when you fly, the coaches sit first class and the
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: players in the bat and that pisses the players off.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: But Bill's like, nah, the players, they run the show
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: like they're in the first class. But there's only so
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: many seats, so he doesn't do it on some yard
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: he doesn't know who's playing. So I remember I was
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: I got like a first class seat, and I'm like, yeah,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: like okay, I made it. And they had some guys
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: that are ten year vets in economy pissed. I'm like, hey,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: like I'm playing better, Bill rewards, who's playing better?
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Who gets respect? Somebody who plays well or somebody's got
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: a big deal.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Who I always say play well because even when I
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: signed some big deals. I signed two thirty million dollar
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: contracts in my career, and I just I always felt
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: like I got to show to the guys like I'm
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: worth it, because nothing's worse than a guy who gets
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: paid and doesn't work.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: And you're like, this is a guy we're paying.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Like you're do you see that in locker rooms. Oh yeah,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: that's a lot of team's issues. They play guys they
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: don't know their character. The money changes the guys, and
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: now you have a big issue because not only is
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: your paid player supposed to be your best player and
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: hopefully your hardest worker like Tom Brady is, and these
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: guys are, he's your least hardest worker and he's not
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: even playing up to his own potentials. That really hurts
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: your team. So you got to pay. You got to
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: make sure that you reward the right guys. I'm a
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: big booster.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I do NILS with players, big Arkansas guy, and I
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: think one of the things that I've been able to
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: observe is that some of these guys grew up like
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I did, no money, broke, but this is their first
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: time to get some money in college, and it actually
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: prepares them from when they get more money in the NFL.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: So it's not just straight culture shot going from nothing
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: to everything. I feel like that's a real positive of
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: the NIL is there's an adjustment period before you hit
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: it real big. Your thoughts on that? I love that.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I love that IL.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: It's I mean, I just like that the players are
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: getting a piece of the pie. And I know it's
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: kind of crazy to regulate, and I know a lot
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: of players are making a lot.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Of money at a young age. But I think what
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: it also does.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: I think it can expose the family that's been waiting
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: to do it anyway, so you might you know, when
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: you've got a million dollars at twenty one, you got
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: some uncles that have been waiting in the weeds. You
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: know that now if you don't give them something now,
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: they now they're mad at you. So maybe it exposes
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: a little the family dynamic or the support dynamic a
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: little earlier. So these kids be like, oh, okay, I
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: really see who's got my back and not? You know,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: so I think a lot of guys stresses is dealing
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: with family and how to hint, like you.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Can't help everybody and where where? Who do you owe
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: what to? And what?
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Your aunt struggling, so you got to pay for her,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: and so and so had a hospitality, got to pay
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: for that, and your mom needs this, and your dad
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: needs that, and you're oh, by your brother's always been
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: there with you, so he needs this. And then eventually
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: it's like you tell them no one time, and then
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: they get mad at you, you know, so you definitely
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: need to work on that dynamic.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Do they work with you guys on money when you
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: go in like that? Because I know in the NBA
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: they do these these class.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: They Yeah, we have a we have a we have
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: like a rookie symposium, you know, but it's just it's generic,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: you know, it's not like a class, it's a it's
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: a one day, you know, four hour presentation. You watch
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: the documentary about Going Broke, which was that you that
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: thirty for thirty which was crazy, and see Antoine Jamison
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: and then buying an apartment complexes and JaMarcus Russell, like buying
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: an entire plane every seat.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: You know. I'm like, I wouldn't do that.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: But I don't know if that teaches you actually like
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: what taxes are and like how to percentages? Yeah, Like
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: I don't think guys like every draft pick is buying
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: their mama house and somebody a car the first day
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: and it's like, dude, you're making like maybe eight hundred
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars this year after taxes, that's like five hundred.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Now you bought a car and a house, Like, how
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: are you even going to pay for your own rent?
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Like there's not enough money to do that in day one,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: which I you know, for Nils. Again, I think it's
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: great when you somebody make a few hundred thousand bucks
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: because then when they make a million, they know half
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: of it where it's going anyway. Yeah, you know. Yeah,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: So when you get to the NFL and you're playing
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: with the Patriots and you're playing, well, I mean, you
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: got the greatest player of all time Tom Brady there.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, does he just walk around and everybody just
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: it's instant respect or is he one of the guys.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: He's he's one of the guys much as he could be,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: and he's just he's different. He was older than you know,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: older than a lot of us and all that stuff.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: But he is the most one of the most huge
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: like humble people for high star power.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Like like does he try to be involved with folks.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very authentic, He's very genuine. He's very engaging, engaging.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: I think his EQ is what got him so many
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Super Bowls. He really knows how to how to how
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: to tap in with his teammates and get the best
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: out of his teammates. Like sometimes you hear how Kobe
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: didn't always rub right with his teammates, or Jordan didn't
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: always rub right with his teammates or whatever. I think
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Tom has that same competitive passion and he knows when
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: to do that, but he also knows when to love
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: up on his teammates and maybe a little more Lebron esque.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think that like Tom has
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: mastered I think that's the difference with him in a
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: lot of these other quarterbacks. That's why he has seven
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: and these other guys have one or two. Is how
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: much like I'll tell quickly, like this story I've told
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: a couple of times my first time ever meeting him.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: So I get drafted by the Patriots.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: I'm walking in the hall, I kind of like see
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: him like down the home, like, oh shit, I'm have
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: the run into this guy, Like do I call him
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Tom Thomas, mister Brady? Like I had this guy's jersey
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: growing up, right, So I'm like like clearing my throat
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: and as I walk up to him outside of normal
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: conversation range, like you know, you have like maybe a
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: second to get ready for this conversation. He's like, oh, hey,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: you're Logan right. We're drafting a third round out of
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Rutgers and he's like, man, look i'm Tom quarterback. Here Like,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: if you need anything, my lockers are here. I'm always
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: here early anything you need, like, just come to me
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: and I'll do the best I can. He's like, trust me,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: I was a rookie. It's hard. Just put your head
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: down and keep working. And I just thought that was
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: so cool. Not only did take the awkward interaction out
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: of me, but he made me feel he knew who
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I was, he knew where I was, school I came from.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: He made me feel important, and he said he was
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: an open book for me. And when you're just the
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: third round rookie out of Rutgers who's probably the fifty
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: third best player on the team, I was like, dang,
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: that's really cool. And I was like, yo, I want
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: to be like that veteran One day. I might not
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: be Tom Brady, but I want to be that guy
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: that's not hazing and not like making it so hard.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: We need these guys, and I think Tom knows that
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: he's going to need every one of his teammates.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: We only got a few minutes left too with you,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: but a couple questions. What if you said, hey, Tom,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: will you sign this, well, that football, anything, it could
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: be anything. You're like, Tom, hey, thanks man, were you signed?
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Like is that allowed on the locker room? Yeah? I
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: got him. You didn't see I got him to sign
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: his last I picked off his last. But that's the end.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: That's you already were established, oh early on. Yeah, and
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: you're like, it's crazy.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think you got to just draw
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: the line there because everyone would do it, so certain
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: guys when you're established.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I think he does it, and charity he'll do it.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: But like just he would be there all day, Like
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: you know, you're that went viral when you had him
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: sign the ball after you. And do you think part
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: of that situation you approached that was because you alreadyknew
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: him and played with him. Yeah. I knew him.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: We kind of grown together, our relationship of respect, and
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: I didn't know how much longer he was going to play.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: I was going to play whatever, So I kind of
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: just snuck a bunch of stuff from the sign for
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: family finally over these years, and then I kind of
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: snuck the football in there.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: You still have the ball. I do have the ball. Yeah,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: what could you get? Forty thinks that's.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: What I want to know. I mean, let me know
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: who's listening. I want to over have five hundred thousand.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: How do you still train? I get two questions, like,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: how do you still train with the intensity that you
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: need to train with when you're waiting on that call
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: instead of knowing who that call is going to be from.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: I did this during COVID. I was a free agent
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: for a long time and I left Tennessee. I didn't
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: sign with the New York Giants till week one of
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: the season. So I was all the way through training
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: camp and I got in there and I ended up
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: leading the team and snaps played and tackles on stuff.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: So I've been through this. I think it's just it's discipline.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: I get up and get it done, period, doesn't matter
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: who I'm playing for.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I get up.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: I know, I know the work and what I need
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: to do at this point in my career, and I
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: get up and just get it done.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: You want to come here? I know some people here.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, you want to come here? What the Titans?
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we want to come here? I know
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: some people here. I don't know, Like where you want
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: to go? Where do you see yourself fitting well? Who
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: needs you.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Man, I would love to be in Tampa because my
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: family's there, you know. But if that's not the case,
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: then I obviously want to play for a good organization,
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: a cold tender that can get a guy to plug
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: in and play and win championships.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I gonna see, Yeah, we'll see what the record is
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: during during the year. He wants to play for the Cowboys.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Any question for Logan?
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Logan, So like, growing up, who did you want
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: to play for? Because I got four kids, three of
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: them are pretty decent at sports, so I fought them
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: all jerseys, like so they can take baby pictures with
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: so the announcer can be like he's always been a
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: forty nine fan.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: From the you know, So who did you want to play? Crazy?
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: I kept this hitting. I was a New York Giant,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: and I literally kept this hitting. But I grew up
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: a diehard Philly fan because I'm from South Jersey and
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: there's like no choice, all right, there's Cowboys fans there.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: They get like beat up daily fights. It's real rivalries
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: up there. So I was I was an Eagles fan
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: growing up. I grew up watching McNab years and and
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: all those years.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Brian Dawkins and all that. So I was big.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: So when the Phillies won the World Series in eight
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: oh nine or whatever, like our teachers didn't.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Show up to school, like there was no school. Everyone
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: was at the parade. It's like that type of town.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: They were climbing the pole. Yeah, oh yeah, it's serious.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I'm a big animal guy. Tell me about Ryan's monthly
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: rescue and your goal and what you've been able to
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: do so far.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Man, we were able to raise hundreds of thousands of
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: dollars for animals throughout the years. I just love I
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: was waiting, I was looking for my calls, and I
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: love shelter animals. I have rescue dogs, my daughter foster's kittens.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: So we started a big animal foundation to raise money,
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: awareness and just be a different face in that industry.
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  Speaker 3: You don't see young black guys like loving on pitbulls.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: You see a different type of stereotype. You don't see
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: guys with kittens and stuff like that. So I've done
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: a lot when Naturally Humane out here when I was
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: still currently and we're just trying to promote adoption and
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: give out grants and stuff for people that are, you know,
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  Speaker 3: struggling with animals and animals need help.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm just an animal lover at r A r
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: F dot com, which is r A r F and
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: you find them on Facebook search for the Ryan Animal
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  Speaker 1: Rescue Foundation. We talked about a little bit before you
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  Speaker 1: got in here, but I really appreciate the time, man,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I could just for three hours. So yeah, I hope
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: you get picked up by a contender. I hope you
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: still find your fulfillment for playing sports the next couple
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: of years. Whatever makes you feel like you still got it.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: If you still got it, I hope you get But
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  Speaker 1: then when you're don dude, you're gonna kill it in
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: this space.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I got peace. I'm proud of what I've done.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm just honestly, it's a financial decision at this point.
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  Speaker 3: I thankfully I had good team and support it where
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  Speaker 3: financially I made good decisions where I don't have to
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  Speaker 3: do that anymore. And my body is important to me.
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  Speaker 3: My time with my family's important to me. So I'm
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: in the one making decisions now and waiting for the
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: right opportunity with the right team. If that doesn't happen
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: and we can do this more often, that's cool too.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm enjoying it. Yeah, pig Sue Man. I played Arkansas
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  Speaker 3: in college.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: You played against them. Yeah, we beat them. Two picks
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: you had. That's how we cut Oh, I did Okay,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: we whispered to one guy called back. Yeah, probably get
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: what was it like a clip or something. That's how
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: you got it in the first place. I don't know what. Yeah,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: something I didn't do somebody else or else follow Logan.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: It's at Logan, Ryan, good luck this season. If it
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  Speaker 1: don't work out, let's go, let's get let's do something big.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys are awesome. Man, it was a
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: big deal to be here, so I appreciate the opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: And that's crazy, all right, Logan Ryan, everybody, No, thanks
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  Speaker 1: to Logan Ryan. That's awesome. Really one of the coolest
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: interviews we got to do. Yeah, just sit for an
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: hour and talk with Logan about that stuff. Whatever you wanted.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Scotty Pippen says Michael Jordan was a horrible player before
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: he got there. Statistically, says Lebron's going to be easily
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: be the greatest statistical player of all time. Obviously, Scotty
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Pippen's still hurt by the last dance and how he's
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: portrayed there. Now, what I did is I went back
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: and looked. These are Jordan's stats without Pipping on the Bulls,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: thirty two points per game, six rebounds, five assists. But
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: then with Pipping on the Bulls he had the same
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: exact stat line. Yeah, in his two healthy seasons he
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: was seventy eight and eighty six and one and six
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. So that's Jordan's record before Pipen gets there. Now,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: like we said, the points per game, the rebounds, assists,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: they were all basically the same. But with Pipping he
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: was five ninety two and two thirty eight. Again not
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: mister stats, Dang, that's such a difference. He was one
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen and fifty one with six championships with Pippen.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Now he was thirty one or twelve without Pipping in
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: the final three p years. But by that point he
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: had other great role players too. I can't get on
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: pippin side and say Jordan was garbage, but I do
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: think Scotty Pippen defensively was a beast and made Jordan's
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: life a whole lot easier. I'm gonna fall to somewhere
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: in the middle of this. I think they needed each other,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: and the fact that Momadad are fighting makes me uncomfortable.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I think Jordan gets all the credit, and I think
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Pippin should get a little bit of it, and he doesn't,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: and it probably hurts his feelings, And it hurts feelings
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: when Jordan does the last dance and acts like Pippen
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: was a cry baby Scotti. Pippen's career stats in seventeen
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: seasons with the Bulls, Troilblazers and Rockets sixteen points a game,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: six or rebounds, five assists, older when he finally got
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: paid because he didn't get paid, that documentary shows you
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: he kind of got screwed financially. But older Pippin with
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: the trail Blazers and Rockets wasn't the same. It wasn't
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: prime pipping. They just need to admit they needed each other.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: But you can't have Michael Jordan and he needed anything.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: And Pip's already said Jordan's garbage. We know that's not
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: true as well. I still think Lebron's best basketball player
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: of all time. I still think it is, and I
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: watch Michael Jordan a ton, but there's not been another
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Lebron that can do everything that he does with the
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: size that he is, and he's also has a scoring record.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: You can hit me with rings, sure, but as we
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: saw here, rings have a lot to do with who
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: else is on your team, because Jordan was garbage until
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Pippin got there. I started to get on Pipping's side
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: after saying that Quentin Tarantino once paid a strip or
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: ten thousand bucks to liquor toes until they were prunes. Man,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I said this disposable money, Like that's just like, you
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: got so much money, you have access to everything. So
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: what do you do? You have a foot fetish and
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: you go lick some toes until they prune. Like how
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: much spit is coming out of his mouth. It takes
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: me a solid thirty five minutes in the bathtub to
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: start pruning anything. And I'm sitting directly in water. Yeah,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: I mean tongue in that, tongue in a toe.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of work.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: God, dang, how's he gonna take He's licking toes for
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: an hour. He had to be to some toe sucking though, too.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: It just can't be licking. I know this is liquing,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: but he's got to be doing some toe sucking with
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: them in the bathtub of his mouth.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: He's getting juicy in there.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like he's. Guys got to be holding him
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: in his mouth bathtub because otherwise that ain't pruning. A
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: former stroke club manager in Hollywood is Quentin Tarantino. Once
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: came in and asked for a VIP room and a girl,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: and then he pursued a liquorr feet and suck her
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: toes until they look like prunes, and he gave her
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars. After thirty minutes, the guy says her
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: feet looked like prunes. Quentin gave her ten grand. You know, hmm,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: it's tough. I'm thinking about it. If I would take
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: ten grand to have my toes sucked by Quentin Tarantino, Yeah,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I do for ten grand. Well, yeah, but
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: you like movies.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Get to ask him any questions about directing Mike. Oh,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: even if I don't have to ask one single question,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: I would do it for ten grand. I'm okay right now,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: or I don't. I would do it for ten grand.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: You're not the one doing it, You're the I mean.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I'm taking it. Yeah, yeah, I'm still probably not gonna
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Oh no, you gonna do that? No, one hundred grand
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I think we're talking ten Probably not you weird o
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Quentin Tarantino sucking on your toes?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Grand, probably not, no, maybe, Okay, all right.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Look that's it. Let's go around the room here. Final thoughts,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Kevin will get yours every week, go ahead.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted mentally physically from being a fan
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: this series. Last two weeks is just from the ultimate
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: highs to the ultimate lows from it, whether it's a
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: shot or a game or the series. And I'm just exhausted,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: and I feel like I need to have a few
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: days to recoup before I get toast sucked.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, you get mister Tarantino on the phone.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: So I'm happy the series is over because I'm exhausted.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Our camera guy Reid read what's up? What's going on?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: So I am leaving tomorrow actually to go to the UK.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to Kentucky. He's gonna watch Kentucky basketball, that's it.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I'm going to London and in Scotland and it's gonna
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: be fun.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I have not packed whatsoever, so I need to do
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of preparation Also, I didn't even know they
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: had different plugs there, did they do? Yeah, So you
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: can get this up at the airport. Okay, that's probably
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: the best place because you can go to a gas
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: station too. But it's like finding an extension cord at
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: a gas station here, Like you got to find the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: right kind of gas station you have an extension cord,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: like country gas stations have extension cords. But I would
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: just get a couple of those at the airport or one.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: It just spends how many thing's gonna plug in. Yeah.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: I went to Utah over the weekend and watched Utah
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: softball when they're super regional, and be honest with you,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: pretty freaking cool. My brother in law, the assistant head
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: coach there, but he's really gone in there, in my opinion,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: totally flipped that program. And they're gonna be in Oklahoma
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: City playing the College World Series, first time that team's
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: ever made it, or at least since ninety four, So
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: first time since ninety four. So this coaching the head
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: coach there has never been until now, and they had
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: never hosted a Super Regional. And so that's where I'll
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: be this weekend is in Oklahoma City watching women's softball.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, the environment in a stadium
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: is so much more fun than a college baseball game.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: And I love college baseball in Arkansas's in a regional
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: but you know, dude, they gotta be cool. And you
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: take the energy from the players and they're all like yelling, singing,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: doing cheer. I mean, it's definitely, as they say, a
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: vibe in a college softball stadium. I mean, people, it's NonStop.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's music. I mean, it's just so much
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: more active than a baseball game. And I love baseball,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: love college baseball, and I'll be rooting for Arkansas, probably going,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: but I'm telling you, if you have to go to
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: one of a team, you don't know, man, college softball
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: is so much more fun just to be at the game.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I never thought i'd say it, but I have to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: say it. That's it. I hope you guys have a
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: great rest of the day. I don't know if we'll
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: be back this week or not, but if we will,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: we'll be up on the twenty five whistles feed only.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Like I said, we don't know what we're doing. We
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: don't know when we'll be back, but I assume it'll
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: be sometime soon. We'll probably talk about the finals if
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: something crazy happens. But we're not under a schedule. We're
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: under our own rule. Now, thank you, I'll blow the whistle.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: We'll get out of here until next time. We'll see
• 1:04:59
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• 1:05:20
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