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The Kids Yearn For The Mines · I Think Less of You Podcast

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_02: Are you recording?
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  SPEAKER_03: I wasn't paying attention.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I think it is.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yep, we're recording.
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  SPEAKER_03: Look at that.
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  SPEAKER_03: We can just leave this in.
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  I did quite intentionally hit record,
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  so that is the logical conclusion to my action.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think that's fair.
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  We missed last week because of me,
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  because I was off gallivanting around amongst state capitals.
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  in the deep south so that was does it count as gallivanting if
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  you're in the deep
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  south yeah it's always gallivanting if you if if if you're you
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  know trucking around
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  all sorts of different places i think that is always
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  gallivanting personally that's
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  just my thought then i am a gallivander you you are definitely
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  a gallivander
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  SPEAKER_00: there's no question there i do i'm addicted to it i'm kind of no
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  SPEAKER_03: Traveling is a lot of fun.
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  SPEAKER_03: I love traveling.
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  SPEAKER_03: For a period.
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  SPEAKER_03: After a while, I start missing my home and my stuff.
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  SPEAKER_03: Mostly my stuff.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm sitting there being like, ugh.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm behind on whatever show I'm watching.
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  I can't watch it on this tiny little computer screen I have
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  with me when I have my
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  SPEAKER_03: big TV at home.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to do that.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's like, you know, like a college student.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, some of us watch on our phones from our bed.
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  SPEAKER_03: God, you're the worst.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's the worst.
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  I watch sometimes on my phone in my bed and we have like a big
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  TV in our room.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You watched the entirety of Severance on your phone.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I didn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't watch a single episode of Severance on my phone.
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  SPEAKER_03: 4K filmed Severance with Atmos on your telephone.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I didn't watch even a single episode of Severance on my phone.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I did watch... Good for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did watch a couple White Lotus on my phone.
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  SPEAKER_03: Again, also, I believe, filmed in 4K with Atmos.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, so I was...
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  SPEAKER_03: my, my family were, uh, we were trucking around the deep South.
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  SPEAKER_03: We went to,
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  SPEAKER_03: uh,
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  SPEAKER_03: what's at a capital of Mississippi,
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  SPEAKER_03: Jackson,
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  SPEAKER_03: Jackson,
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  SPEAKER_03: Mississippi,
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  SPEAKER_03: uh,
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  SPEAKER_03: Montgomery,
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  SPEAKER_03: Alabama and Baton Rouge,
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  SPEAKER_03: Louisiana.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was very nice.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, well, Montgomery, Alabama wasn't very nice.
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  SPEAKER_03: I wasn't a big fan of Montgomery, Alabama.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sorry, Montgomery, Alabama people.
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  SPEAKER_03: But, um,
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  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I've actually been to Baton Rouge before.
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  SPEAKER_03: Baton Rouge isn't that spectacular a city.
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  I don't think people from Baton Rouge would say it's that
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  spectacular a city.
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  SPEAKER_03: The statehouse is nice.
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  The Louisiana statehouse in Baton Rouge,
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  big skyscraper built by Huey Long.
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  SPEAKER_03: Huey Long, he built the thing, then he got shot in it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can we back up and say why you are visiting state capitals?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I think it's really cute.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, because I've referenced this on Twitter periodically.
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  We have made a goal to try to take our kids to all 50 state
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  capitals before they
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  SPEAKER_03: reach college age.
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  It may ultimately shake out that we'll go to Hawaii or
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  something when they're in
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  SPEAKER_03: college or something.
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  Some of the more far-flung Juneau,
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  Alaska,
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  seems like it's going to be pretty far down the list.
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  SPEAKER_03: But so far,
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  we've mostly been sticking to states that we can drive to from
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  where we live
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  SPEAKER_03: without too much trouble.
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  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, so we can't say off the top of that how many we've been to.
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  SPEAKER_03: We've been to a decent number so far.
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  SPEAKER_03: We've been up and down the eastern seaboard.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think we haven't been to Tallahassee yet.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think we might try to do that next spring.
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  SPEAKER_00: You should buy,
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  SPEAKER_00: there are on Etsy,
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  SPEAKER_00: people do scratch-off maps,
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  SPEAKER_00: and you can get custom ones,
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  and you could get scratch-off maps that your kids could scratch
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  out the states that
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  SPEAKER_00: they've been to the capitals of.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think we actually have one of those, or a couple of those.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think the girls have been using it, which is the same thing.
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  They've been using it to scratch off the states they've been to,
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  so it works out the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's also an app called Bin, like places I've been to.
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  SPEAKER_03: No, I'm not.
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  SPEAKER_03: They don't have phones.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm not getting them into apps.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, fine.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
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  My kids have it because when they have phones,
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  my kids are older than your kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: But also,
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  we've been to a couple countries and it's fun for them to tick
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  off the countries
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  SPEAKER_00: they've been to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I think my kids have been to like 10 countries?
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  SPEAKER_00: 12?
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I still haven't gotten my kids passports.
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  SPEAKER_03: My wife and I don't currently have a passport.
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  We,
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  we,
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  we need to,
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  we,
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  we,
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  cause we haven't traveled overseas in so long.
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  SPEAKER_03: We both let our passports lapse.
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  SPEAKER_03: We need to take care of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Actually,
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  I'm glad that you just said that because I need to renew my
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  kids passports because
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  SPEAKER_00: there's expired next year.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I have to get done now.
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  SPEAKER_03: It takes a while.
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  SPEAKER_00: I always expedite and you get it back within like two to three weeks.
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  SPEAKER_03: No, so, yeah, no, we don't – my kids have not been to other countries.
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  And they have been told that they will not get a smartphone
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  until they can pay for one.
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  SPEAKER_03: That is my stance.
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  They get a smart – we actually have an old dumb flip phone that
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  we got,
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  and I'm going to get a –
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_03: I'll probably just get a prepaid SD card from,
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  SPEAKER_03: not SD card,
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  SPEAKER_03: whatever card from Mint or something.
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  SPEAKER_01: Call the SIM card.
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  SPEAKER_03: SIM card, that's the one, to put in there for them.
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  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I don't want them.
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  SPEAKER_03: They don't have social media accounts.
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  My stance is that it's hard enough as an adult to forge your
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  identity without
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  having weird vestiges of your childhood identity floating
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  around on the internet.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: My kids don't have,
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_00: my daughter has,
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  SPEAKER_00: well,
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  SPEAKER_00: they have some accounts,
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  SPEAKER_00: but they're very locked down private.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have the password.
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  SPEAKER_00: I set the password.
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  SPEAKER_00: They actually use our old phones.
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  So when Luke and I like get upgrades,
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  then we gave our old phones to the kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we have, like, a really cheap basic plan for them.
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  SPEAKER_00: But because they're homeschooled, too, it's also different.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're friends they're coordinating with and talking to.
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  SPEAKER_03: There aren't people they would necessarily see at school on that day.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've vetted it a lot more, and my kids know that I'm nosy.
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  SPEAKER_00: I go through anyone's phone.
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  SPEAKER_00: I pay the phone bill in my house.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can go through any phone that's on that plan.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's fair.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't...
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I could see that.
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  SPEAKER_03: It hasn't really been an issue.
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  SPEAKER_03: But my daughter has, my older daughter has friends that she'll text.
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  SPEAKER_03: But she'll use one of my, usually my wife's phone to do it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because my wife has,
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  it's cute and somewhat old fashioned that she like texts the
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  parents of the people.
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  SPEAKER_03: They have to get the phone from their parents.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had that for a while.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then, oh, well.
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  I'm glad I'm not doing that now because now there's a boy
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  texting my daughter.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, no.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's all downhill from there.
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  We actually have a whole bunch of old iPhone SEs,
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  not the new SE,
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  like the old SE.
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  SPEAKER_03: My wife and I were big into those for a while.
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  SPEAKER_03: They were so nice and compact.
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  But I don't think any carrier still uses those or is willing to
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  use those.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have, I don't know that I ever had one of those when they were.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've always had like the megaphone because I just need Tamra.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, you professionally need the camera, yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: I like the very small form.
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  SPEAKER_03: I have large hands.
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  My wife does not have large hands,
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  so she really liked the very small form.
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  I finally got her to upgrade to the new iPhone SE because
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  everyone stopped
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  SPEAKER_03: supporting the old one.
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  The old ones were all running horribly because they're not
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  built for any of the new
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  SPEAKER_03: builds of iOS.
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  SPEAKER_00: How did we get on this tangent?
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  SPEAKER_00: We were talking about family vacations.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's how it works.
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  SPEAKER_03: Back to family vacations.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so Baton Rouge, not great, but cool building.
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  SPEAKER_03: I really like the, yeah, the state house, big.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm a sucker for Art Deco.
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  SPEAKER_03: So in Louisiana, state house is dripping in Art Deco.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's wonderful.
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  SPEAKER_03: It looks like straight out of an Ayn Rand novel.
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  SPEAKER_00: Have you ever been to Kansas City?
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  SPEAKER_03: Is it also Art Deco?
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  SPEAKER_00: Kansas City has a lot of Art Deco.
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  SPEAKER_00: And like really, really cool Art Deco buildings.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going in May.
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  SPEAKER_03: Is Kansas City the... That's not the capital of Missouri, is it?
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't remember the capital.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I literally don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I have lived in Missouri in the past.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's the great Midwest.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's basically, you hear there be dragons.
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  SPEAKER_00: No!
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  SPEAKER_00: More good face work that I have going on.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a huge defender of the Midwest.
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  SPEAKER_00: I realize that some people lump Colorado into the Midwest, which is not.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, it's mountain.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's mountain.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, but I don't know that you've been to Denver.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, we are on the plains.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but the plains are a mile high in the air.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's still a mountain.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's not a plain, it's a plateau.
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  SPEAKER_03: A plateau is not a plain.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a gentle slope up.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyways, I'm a huge defender of the Midwest.
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  If you have to modify your baking times because of the altitude...
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  I don't.
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  SPEAKER_03: You're absolutely supposed to.
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  SPEAKER_03: All the recipes call for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I also don't bake very much.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, there you go.
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  There might be a reason that your stuff isn't coming out well
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  enough that you want to bake more.
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  SPEAKER_00: Actually, that is because I...
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  have the attention span of a gnat and can't like follow a very
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  scientific process to bake.
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  SPEAKER_02: Fair enough.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a cook.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a baker.
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  SPEAKER_00: My husband actually bakes and he doesn't modify anything.
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  SPEAKER_03: I do both,
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  SPEAKER_03: but I don't,
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  SPEAKER_03: because I only,
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  SPEAKER_03: I can do both fine,
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  SPEAKER_03: but it's only because I don't,
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't forge new things.
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  SPEAKER_03: I just follow recipes.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're at about a mile high now.
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  SPEAKER_00: It really impacts you like 8,000 feet up.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have about 3,000 feet to play with.
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  It matters with things like souffle and macarons,
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  but otherwise,
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  for bread,
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  it's not much.
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  SPEAKER_00: Unless you're in the mountains, and then it is.
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  My parents used to live in Beaver Creek,
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  and I'd have to modify everything.
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  the uh baton rouge nice we went to new orleans i think we spent
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  the most time in
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  new orleans we're in new orleans for two days new orleans is
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  it's new orleans it's
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  fine it's night it was it's during lent new orleans is
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  obviously a bit sleepier
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  during lent um which is better i was just in new orleans like
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  two weeks ago and it
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  was kind of nice that it was sleepier yeah no no i'm i'm not
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  complaining that was
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  SPEAKER_03: you don't have
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  SPEAKER_03: The vomit on the,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  they're having to hose the vomit off of Bourbon Street after
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  the parties for
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  SPEAKER_03: leading up to Lent.
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  SPEAKER_00: I actually, it wasn't my intention when I was there.
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  I was there for an ad conference and I was with,
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  you know,
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  colleagues and my ad company.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we ended up going out onto Bourbon Street at like 1 a.m., which, ugh.
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  horrifying horrifying really truly horrifying stuff but it
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  wasn't that bad there
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  were like 10 people out and it was a bunch of olds like me so
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  yeah was this was
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  this before before lent was this during the season oh this was
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  like okay two weeks
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  ago okay i don't know how long lent's been going on it was
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  right after i'm not
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  SPEAKER_03: catholic
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  SPEAKER_00: You're married to a Catholic.
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  SPEAKER_00: You should know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't pay attention.
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  SPEAKER_03: I can barely remember when my own birthday is.
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  SPEAKER_03: Which, by the way, was like last week.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was my birthday.
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  SPEAKER_00: Happy birthday.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was my birthday the week before that we talked about.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're both March babies.
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  um but uh yeah so so new orleans was nice we uh but i had some
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  some work i had to
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  do so my wife took the girls just to the jazz museum by herself
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  which was nice but
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  you had work to do that wasn't recording it was it wasn't
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  recording yeah it was uh
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  it was it was really annoying because i had to i had to do a
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  meeting and it was
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  SPEAKER_03: like a
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  half hour meeting and i but i had to do it so then i couldn't
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  go to with they were
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  gone for like four hours um so just hanging out in our hotel
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  this is where people
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  think that i have and i'm i'm not gonna lie my life is pretty
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  fun but people think
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  that i have like this awesome gig that i get to just do
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  whatever i want i'm like no
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  like half the time when i'm going places i'm sitting working in
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  a hotel room
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  It is very difficult to dodge meetings if you're working in any capacity.
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  You're always on someone else's schedule because you've got to
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  meet with somebody.
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  And if you work remote or you own your own business,
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  you never clock out,
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  which is really fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've built myself this amazing golden handcuffs here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, we were in New Orleans.
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  SPEAKER_03: Our last night in New Orleans.
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  SPEAKER_03: I should look up the name of the restaurant.
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  SPEAKER_03: I should actually tweet about this because I feel like it was cool.
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  SPEAKER_03: We decided we wanted Italian food.
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  SPEAKER_03: We went to this restaurant.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was this Italian restaurant.
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  SPEAKER_03: That I looked up,
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  and apparently it had been at Buga de Beppo or something like
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  that up until,
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  SPEAKER_03: like,
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  SPEAKER_03: a few years ago.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that place closed, and this place opened up in it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because I guess there was a guy who wanted to start a restaurant that...
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  SPEAKER_03: And it came with all the equipment.
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  And it was interesting because they explicitly said on their
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  information that what
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  they wanted to do is they wanted to be a place where people
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  feel comfortable both
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  SPEAKER_03: bringing their families...
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  And where they'd feel comfortable going if someone was watching
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  the kids.
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  Like,
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  it was,
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  like,
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  a high-end,
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  but not too...
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  Like,
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  it was very nicely decked out.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was a high-end, but not too high-end.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, like, and they had a kid's menu.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was kind of a sweet spot for us.
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  SPEAKER_03: We like to bring our kids where places we go.
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  I know a lot of parents like to ditch their kids and just go
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  off and do something.
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  SPEAKER_03: We generally will try to include our kids in everything we do because we,
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  SPEAKER_03: like,
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  SPEAKER_03: have them around.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: Cool.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: But...
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  SPEAKER_00: We're half and half.
• 15:25
  I mean,
• 15:25
  thankfully,
• 15:26
  my kids are old enough now that I mean,
• 15:28
  my kids are teenagers.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: So
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: when we were in Scotland,
• 15:32
  Luke and I went out to dinner and left them in the apartment
• 15:36
  because they're old enough.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_03: Left him a haggis to eat dinner.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, we did one night for my son.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: My son tried haggis and loved it.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: And we didn't tell him what it was until we got home.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: And we told him and he's like, still like it.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, great.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_03: Did you tell him it's illegal in America?
• 15:59
  Yeah.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: I gotta give him that street crowd.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_03: But this restaurant we went to, we had this very nice waiter.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_03: We came over, he was like chatting with the kids, really great.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_03: And then he was asking us, we've been there before.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_03: We said no.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_03: And he went off and he
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_03: Came back.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_03: He's like, I just talked to my manager.
• 16:20
  Because it's your first experience with us,
• 16:21
  we want to pick anything from the appetizer menu.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's on the house.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: I was like,
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_03: that is really,
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_03: especially because if we're from out of town,
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_03: we're not going back there anytime soon.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, that is really cool.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_03: So we got this delicious,
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_03: it was like a cheese and tomato sauce thing with crostinis to put in it.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_03: It was very good.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_03: Appetizer.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_03: They comped it.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: It was fantastic.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_03: I love that place.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: If only you knew what the name of the appetizer was.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_03: I can figure it out.
• 16:50
  I don't want to be sitting here on my phone while you riff
• 16:53
  while I figure out the
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: name of this place.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
• 16:55
  Okay,
• 16:59
  how else am I supposed to occupy the time that it takes to get
• 17:06
  a thought out of you?
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's true.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_03: I'm chatty.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: I am too.
• 17:14
  We also one of the genesis genesis of the trip was that there's
• 17:19
  this restaurant in
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_03: Baton Rouge called Piranes that my wife has been to in the past.
• 17:24
  I'd actually been there once before that had in the past served
• 17:28
  blackened alligator.
• 17:30
  And my wife has often talked about this blackened alligator
• 17:32
  with our kids and they
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: really wanted to have this blackened alligator.
• 17:34
  So we went to Baton Rouge,
• 17:35
  we go to Bahrain to get the blackened alligator.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_03: And I didn't do research beforehand,
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_03: sadly,
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_03: because apparently the blackened alligator was,
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_03: it was like an off menu thing.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_03: They sold fry.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_03: They used to sell fried alligator and they just wouldn't fry it.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_03: We're blacking it for you.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_03: But apparently they no longer sell it, which is unfortunate.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_03: But we got grilled oysters instead, which were quite good.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_03: Paranes.
• 18:00
  Anyone who's been to the area,
• 18:01
  I gather,
• 18:02
  doesn't need to be told about Paranes.
• 18:04
  As far as I can tell,
• 18:05
  it's a kind of local institution of the Baton Rouge area.
• 18:08
  So everyone is told,
• 18:09
  oh,
• 18:10
  you got to go to Paranes,
• 18:11
  which it was very good.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: It sucks that they didn't have it, though.
• 18:18
  No,
• 18:18
  I mean,
• 18:19
  I actually,
• 18:19
  a while ago,
• 18:20
  our local butcher was selling alligator.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_03: And I bought some with...
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: If you had talked to your food blogger friend,
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: she might have helped you pull up the menu beforehand and plan.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_03: I don't need to talk to you to pull up a menu.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_03: I know how to pull up menus.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently you might need...
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: I had been there.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: Reminder to do it.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: Now,
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: granted,
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_03: when I was there,
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_03: when I was there last was like eight years ago and my wife,
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_03: I think maybe six or seven years ago.
• 18:53
  So,
• 18:53
  you know,
• 18:54
  it should have occurred to me that things might have changed.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_03: I don't need your help to do online research.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_03: I know how to do online research.
• 19:00
  Do not act like you have some kind of great researching ability
• 19:07
  that only an online
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_03: food blogger is capable of.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: I don't,
• 19:11
  but I do have the memory of screwing a lot of things up when I
• 19:16
  don't look and do
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: the homework.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really good.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: This is awesome.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: That was great.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: You just sprayed water all over yourself.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: It was amazing.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_03: That was soda.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_03: That was soda I sprayed all over myself, actually.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: It would have been so much easier if it was water.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: We're unhinged today.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_03: We're always unhinged.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_03: A little bit.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_03: You'll make reference to this sometimes.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, we're no different than we ever.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: No, that's true.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_03: Because we're chatting.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_03: People want to hear us chat.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: All five.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:49
  all five people out of here is chat thank you all five people
• 19:54
  one of them is my
• 19:54
  wife she always listens and then she texts me comment comments
• 19:58
  and references to
• 19:59
  what i've said oh we we then went to mobile alabama i had never
• 20:05
  been to mobile
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_03: alabama i had been to both baton rouge and um
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_03: New Orleans before.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_03: Mobile is a great city.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_03: I loved Mobile.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_03: Mobile was a very nice city.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_03: It felt like the most southern feeling town I think I've been in.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_03: It just felt very southern.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: It had that just kind of
• 20:25
  look to it and we stayed at a place called the malaga inn which
• 20:29
  is was built in 18
• 20:30
  it was built in 1862 which i found surprising because i was
• 20:33
  surprised that in 1862
• 20:36
  construction was still going on in mobile alabama because i
• 20:39
  think there were others
• 20:40
  there was other stuff happening down south but apparently they
• 20:44
  were building a
• 20:44
  hotel down in mobile but it was it was like an old style hotel
• 20:49
  so it was like
• 20:52
  The beds were these big four poster beds and it had all wood
• 20:55
  floors and there was a
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: central courtyard in the place,
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_03: which was very pretty and had this big fountain.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_03: It was very nice.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_03: Not that expensive.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_03: Wonderful place.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_03: I'd recommend the Malaga Inn.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_03: It is apparently haunted.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_03: I found out the next day.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_03: I was looking it up online,
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_03: and after we had stayed there,
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_03: I found that it is apparently haunted.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_03: You know, whatever.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_03: The online thing, it doesn't sound like it's a violent ghost.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: It's just,
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_03: a ghostly apparition who paces around,
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_03: and,
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_03: lights can turn themselves off.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_03: Who cares?
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_03: You can just turn it back on.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't matter.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: I drove up to a haunted hotel yesterday, so.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, the Overlook, wasn't it?
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_03: The Stan Lee.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_03: The Overlook Hotel.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: No one knows it as the Stan Lee.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone knows that this is Stanley.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: So many people have been to Estes Park.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_03: More people have watched The Shining than have been to Estes Park.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_03: I will guarantee.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think that's true.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_03: 100% true.
• 21:55
  I'm not going to bother to finally find the statistics on this
• 21:57
  because I'm
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_03: confident in my being correct.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Rocky Mountain National Park is so crowded.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: They have to limit.
• 22:04
  You have to make a reservation to go to the National Park and
• 22:06
  you have to do it
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: like weeks in advance.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like Estes Park is very, very trafficked.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_03: That sounds communist.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's awful.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: We never go.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: This is why we have that group chat that we're in.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: And people are like, oh, I love Estes.
• 22:20
  I'm like,
• 22:20
  I never go to Estes because it's always so crowded,
• 22:23
  especially in the summer.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_03: It's for the tourists.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's so busy.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_03: That's why no one goes.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: You all right over there?
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I was coughing.
• 22:32
  I was really irrationally angry at my CPA yesterday and just
• 22:38
  went for a drive
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: because it's April,
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: which is my
• 22:43
  least favorite month because i hate paying taxes yeah well i
• 22:48
  don't do my taxes i
• 22:49
  have accountants but i have to pay them and that really sucks
• 22:55
  yeah no no that's a
• 22:57
  that's a everyone gets a little bit libertarian in april i'm
• 23:00
  always a little bit
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_03: but you're getting a little bit more
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: I shouldn't say that loudly, but actually I'm getting a lot less.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: I used to, for a while, when I was in Maryland, I think I was registered.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: I don't, I won't say that out loud, but.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_03: You just did.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: I heard it.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_03: I heard it news.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_03: It's on, it's on, it's recorded now.
• 23:22
  There was a very brief period of my life that I was a
• 23:25
  registered libertarian.
• 23:27
  Everyone goes to a libertarian phase when they're younger or,
• 23:30
  you know,
• 23:30
  approaching libertarian.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's the thing.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_03: You're young.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_03: You don't have context of what the government actually does do.
• 23:39
  My really good friend was fairly,
• 23:43
  I didn't know her then,
• 23:44
  but,
• 23:44
  and now she's like super Marxist.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: So, Hey, we all have our own paths.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_03: How do you, how do you make that journey?
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: She really is the horseshoe.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: And we talk about the horseshoe theory all the time,
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: but she like is the horseshoe that we talk about.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:01
  hopped out completely on the other side she's absolutely my
• 24:05
  favorite friend to talk
• 24:06
  about politics with because we're both like well you're wrong
• 24:09
  but I don't care I
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: get why you think that it's
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_03: I like that.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_03: I have a general belief that most people that I encounter have the same,
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_03: roughly the same information that I do.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_03: They've just, you know, contextualized differently than I have.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_03: And that's fine.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think we have anywhere near the same information.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: My friend and I,
• 24:34
  we have very different information sources and that's why she's
• 24:39
  getting stuff off
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_03: daily costs.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Does that still exist?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's still around.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_03: Daily Kos, Mother Jones, they're still out there.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: They're still out there being commies.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_03: Jackman Magazine.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_03: They sell Jackman Magazine in Barnes and Nobles.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_03: Did you know that?
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_03: Shocking.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: I did not.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: I also don't go to Barnes and Noble really ever.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, because you go to bougie local bookstores.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: They're not bougie, but yes.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: yes,
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: I love a local bookstore,
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: but we usually go to – there's a bunch of really awesome,
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: huge used bookstores near us that have everything.
• 25:21
  It's like why would you go and pay a Barnes & Noble tax and I
• 25:25
  can buy the exact
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: same book from the used book shop?
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_03: Generally go to Barnes and Noble once a year.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_03: They do a half off their Criterion movies sale for a month a year,
• 25:39
  and I go and try to pick up some Criterion films that I don't
• 25:42
  already own.
• 25:44
  We actually went to a Barnes & Noble outside New Orleans
• 25:49
  because my wife only
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_03: brought one book and she finished her book.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_03: So she wanted to buy herself another book.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_03: So she did.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: But there's all those beautiful used bookstores.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a big used bookstore fan.
• 26:04
  Well,
• 26:04
  we went to Barnes & Noble and she bought herself a big copy for
• 26:09
  the Brothers Karamazov.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_03: And she, she, she's been reading that.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: I told my kids,
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: if they read Brothers Karamazov,
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_03: they'll knock out all their AR points for school.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_03: And like, you know, just like right there.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_03: You gotta, you gotta, you gotta think ahead like that.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: They sure would.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: They might give up reading completely.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know, way to go out with a bang.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_03: But, uh,
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah,
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_03: so that was,
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_03: we spent a nice,
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_03: probably,
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_03: 45 minutes,
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_03: hour hanging out in Barnes & Noble.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_03: I always liked Borders better than Barnes & Noble.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_03: I liked Borders to buy books.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_03: Barnes & Noble was always, I felt like, better to hang out in.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, did you have Borders out there?
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know how natural they were.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: Wild West.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: I know people think it is, but.
• 27:03
  I don't know if they were like Midwest and East or if they
• 27:06
  actually went all the
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_03: way out to California or not.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: This East Coast main character syndrome.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_03: Because the East Coast is the main character.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's, ugh.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it is.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_03: Where's the capital?
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_03: Where's the capital of the United States?
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_03: Where's the city that never sleeps?
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_03: Is it San Francisco?
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_03: San Francisco sleeps on a big bunch of poop.
• 27:30
  San Francisco does not sleep because everyone is tweaking out
• 27:34
  all the time.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: If you're on that amount of drugs, you don't need sleep.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's why... Well, fair enough.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's why they're like zombies.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_03: Speed capital of America.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_03: So anyway, that was what I was doing.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_03: I was trucking around.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_03: What were you doing?
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_03: How are you doing?
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: I was trying to not die of a man cold that ripped through my house.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_03: The eternal struggle.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: And just planning summer stuff.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: I've decided that I need to start traveling a lot more.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_03: That's what you do.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: It is what I do.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: So a little bit of an occupational thing.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: But also just...
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: the realization is hitting that,
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: especially with my son,
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: I have,
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: what,
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: three years with him until he graduates?
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, goes off to college somewhere, presumably.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, it's four years, but it's three years until he's 18.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I got to start kicking up the hanging out with the kids.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: And,
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 28:36
  putting in stuff so you could keep making money to pay for that
• 28:39
  college you're
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: going to go to.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: That's important.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's generally a good thing for me to keep my business afloat.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_03: Of course.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: I do at some point have to start traveling.
• 28:53
  I've been really nervous to travel because I had all the weird
• 28:56
  like blood clot risk
• 28:58
  stuff and my insurance won't pay for the surgery that I need to
• 29:02
  have for it.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm a little like sketched out doing my job at the moment.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_03: You could just drive.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: I could.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: But you know why that doesn't work for me?
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_03: Is it because you have an electric car and you have to,
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_03: you can't reliably charge your Rivian everywhere along the way?
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, you can.
• 29:25
  And I just charted it out like when I'm going to Kansas City
• 29:28
  soon because I want to
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: stay longer and flying just kind of.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'll fly my husband there and probably.
• 29:34
  take my kids and i and go see my cousins in kansas but there
• 29:38
  there are supercharger
• 29:40
  stops along the way and if you go through so i don't have a
• 29:45
  tesla but teslas have
• 29:47
  upgraded to allow other cars use their superchargers and it
• 29:51
  makes sense if you go
• 29:53
  on the tesla website um not yeah they'll map it out for the map
• 29:57
  that map trips out
• 29:58
  for you they map it out for you and they'll tell you how long
• 30:01
  to charge at each
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: time and
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's helpful.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_03: That makes sense.
• 30:07
  I think my husband would be a nervous wreck,
• 30:10
  though,
• 30:10
  because I'm really bad.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm always like, oh.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: And it texts him.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: So unlike with a gas car,
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: it will text him and tattle on me and be like,
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_00: you only have like 10 miles left.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: Excuse me?
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: Why is your car narcing on you to your husband?
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_03: What?
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because he's a co-owner.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: It texts me as well.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: But it's like, go recharge now.
• 30:38
  So he'll get the text at work and he'll be like,
• 30:40
  Court,
• 30:41
  what are you doing?
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: Go plug in.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_03: Good Lord.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_03: I'm against this.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_03: This is madness.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: You also don't have a tracker on your wife.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, I do not.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_03: I do not low jack my wife.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely not.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: I know you do.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_03: That's the thing, though.
• 31:05
  Gas cars are just so much more convenient for trucking around
• 31:09
  in because there's
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_03: always a gas station.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_03: I remember I watched a years ago.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if it was a Ken Burns documentary or
• 31:18
  But I watched a documentary about there was a guy who did
• 31:22
  basically the first
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_03: cross-country car trip.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_03: And that's what it discussed.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_03: This was in like 1910, maybe.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_03: How much trouble there was getting gas along.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_03: He had to have a whole bunch of gas cans strapped to his car so that...
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_03: wherever he did find gas,
• 31:42
  he could fill up because he didn't know where he was going to
• 31:44
  find extra gas.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_03: Electric is not quite at that phase,
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_03: but with electric,
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_03: sadly,
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_03: you can't just bring an extra battery.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of SOL.
• 31:59
  Luke and I are annoyed that our roof isn't just like,
• 32:03
  why isn't the roof a charger?
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm confused by that.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_03: I don't...
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_03: Can you see out of it?
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_03: That's the ambiance.
• 32:15
  Although I think that they have technology that allows them to
• 32:21
  do see-through solar panels,
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_03: I'm pretty sure.
• 32:24
  They're not as efficient,
• 32:25
  but basically it's a solar panel,
• 32:28
  but it's also a window.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know why.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe it just costs more to install,
• 32:33
  and they're trying to keep the price down where they can
• 32:36
  because they're already
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_03: spending so much on the battery.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: Not a clue.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_03: One solar panel doesn't really collect that much electricity.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's a little bit, but it's not that much.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_03: You've got to have a feel of them before it's really efficient.
• 32:54
  We do have other cars,
• 32:55
  though,
• 32:55
  so I could just drive one of the other cars.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_03: Isn't one of those a Tesla?
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: There is a Tesla at our house, but we live with my in-laws.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: They have a Tesla.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so not your Tesla.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: That's not mine.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_03: No, we have... Like a Yugo or something, right?
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: Don't make me say it.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_00: You are always trying to make me sound snappy.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_03: It's a Yugo.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's a Mercedes.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, wow.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not trying to make you sound snobby.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just, you know, discussing the facts on the ground.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_03: And if those facts make you seem snobby, that's not my fault.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_03: I actually forgot what your other car was.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_03: I drive a Volvo, man.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_03: Who am I to judge?
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, but actually, wait, there's two.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_03: How many drivers in your house?
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: Two.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_03: I can see why you need three cars.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well,
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: my son is about to let he in the next calendar year,
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: we'll get his learner's permit,
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_00: which makes me want to vomit.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: And also we didn't want to get rid of my husband has this old Sequoia.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's just like our, how we haul trash with it.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: We go camping with it.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_00: When we go skiing, we take that.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um, did he give that to your son?
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think we might,
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: but I don't know because if he wrecks it,
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to be really pissed because it's a beater of a car,
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: but it's a great old car.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_03: It's fine, but it's fine.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_03: You could just buy him another beater, but you've already got a beater.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_03: I actually think driving an old beater is very good for learning drivers.
• 34:34
  There's a lot of different people have differences of opinion
• 34:38
  on this because on
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_03: the one hand,
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_03: they don't have the safety features of a new car.
• 34:41
  And obviously,
• 34:42
  a learning driver should have a lot of safety features on the car.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_03: But at the same time, just learning to...
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_03: Get to know an old beater car,
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_03: get to know its quirks,
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_03: get to know its weirdnesses,
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_03: and ideally understanding to some degree how to maintain it,
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_03: what needs to be maintained,
• 34:58
  which is going to be a lot different and more frequent on an
• 35:01
  older car than a newer car.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's good.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_03: My first few cars were just complete piece of crap.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_03: I loved those things.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_03: They were great.
• 35:07
  Most of my cars in my life are complete pieces of crap,
• 35:09
  I'm going to be honest here.
• 35:11
  only recently got better cars i always had hondas i never paid
• 35:17
  more than like 2000
• 35:18
  for a car i remember the adam sandler song piece of s car no
• 35:25
  okay but anyways it
• 35:27
  was of the time um my friends used to sing it when i would get
• 35:31
  to school because
• 35:32
  they're like oh that's not nice no my car was the worst it was
• 35:36
  so bad and we just
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: laughed at it
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_03: I,
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_03: I,
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: even,
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: even by the time I was in college,
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_03: I was one of the few people I knew who had a car.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_03: I used to,
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_03: it was an old bit,
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_03: an old beater car,
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: but,
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: uh,
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: I mean,
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_03: uh,
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not a,
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_03: perhaps wasn't as,
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_03: bourgeois in areas.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_03: You were good.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody was all happy that I had a car.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_03: I used to drive people out to Walmart with it.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_03: I'd be like, I'll drive you to Walmart.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_03: You got to get by me a candy bar there.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_03: I had this whole economy going on.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: The bourgeois.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: I was in Kansas City for half of it.
• 36:14
  You know those Kansas City people Richie Rich Kansas City Not
• 36:26
  where rockers are
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: Jesuit schools are not necessarily in good neighborhoods Well that's true
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_00: No, we used to play a game.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: This is so effed up.
• 36:35
  We used to play a game in the dorms where we would hear
• 36:38
  gunshots and then you would
• 36:40
  have to shotgun a beer for every 10 minutes that went by that
• 36:44
  the cops didn't come.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: And we'd be like hammered by the end of the night.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, we had like helicopters overhead all the time.
• 36:52
  We had a really secure campus,
• 36:57
  but I was not like in some bougie nice area.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_03: That was not my collegiate experience.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_03: That sounds unpleasant.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_03: Congratulations on getting shot.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: My CSU experience was very different.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_00: And that area is fine.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: I lived there, but it's not what you were picturing.
• 37:19
  But you knew many people with cars,
• 37:20
  and I'm just saying,
• 37:23
  nobody had a car.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: Not that many people did,
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_00: but my parents lived in Wisconsin,
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: and at the time,
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_00: my boyfriend lived in Colorado,
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: so I was driving.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: That's fair.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: A lot.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's good to have your first couple cars be beaters.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_03: It builds character.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_03: It builds character in kids, and character's important.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my kids have a lot of character.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know that they need more.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: My daughter, especially, she's crazy.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: When she starts to drive, I'm so scared.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_03: You were telling me a story about your daughter and ducks.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_03: I want you to tell me the story about the ducks, please.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_03: The travel ducks, the European travel ducks.
• 38:11
  So my daughter's obsessed with ducks,
• 38:12
  but not just the European travel ducks,
• 38:14
  but there are.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_03: Explain.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_03: People can't see this.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_03: Explain to me, because I was unaware of this existing.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_03: Explain to me what a European travel duck is.
• 38:24
  So across Europe,
• 38:25
  and I'm sure in other countries as well,
• 38:28
  it's just like a tourist phenomenon.
• 38:30
  There are stores that just sell rubber ducks and they're like
• 38:34
  themed rubber ducks.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: So we're not doing the video for this,
• 38:38
  but like over my shoulder is a rubber duck that's in a dirndl
• 38:42
  that my parents got
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_00: in Germany.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: And we go around to rubber duck stores.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like I, this is what I bring my children home.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_00: I bring magnets that I collect anywhere we go.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then we bring rubber ducks.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: Rubber ducks.
• 38:59
  So it's basically a duck-based Funko Pop for culturally
• 39:07
  significant things.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: like we were in Venice two Christmases ago,
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: and she got a little one that's a guy,
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: like a duck,
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_00: making a pizza.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_00: Shouldn't it be in a gondola?
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like a duck in a gondola would make more sense.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_03: Why is it making a pizza?
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think of pizza when I think Venice.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_03: I think pizza's like Nepalese.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
• 39:29
  Also,
• 39:29
  it could have had the carnival mask,
• 39:33
  but that could have just been what she picked.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_03: Because apparently there's entire shops with selections.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe in the shop there was a... They're small.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_00: These are small.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's a tiny one-room shop, but they have just rubber ducks everywhere.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: I get them everywhere we go.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: In Scotland, we got Loch Ness Monster looking ducks.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's fun.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_02: They have a long neck.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, nice.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's a really weird thing.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: My daughter is very, very quirky.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know where she gets that from.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_03: I couldn't imagine.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_00: I have no clue.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_00: And she also collects random crap like I do.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_00: But now she's obsessed with ducks and with geese,
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: which horrifies me because I'm permanently at war with all birds.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you know this about me.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: I hate birds.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: Birds hate me.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: This is a mutual thing.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm like deadly afraid of birds.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: Birds and bridges.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: Birds and bridges.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm out.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_00: I hate birds.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_02: Why?
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_03: Do you hate anything air-based?
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_03: We like airplanes.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_03: That doesn't make sense.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_03: That doesn't follow.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_00: I like traveling.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know that I love airplanes.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_00: I am, for someone who travels a lot, I am a very, very skittish flyer.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_03: Oh.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_03: So what is your daughter doing with these ducks?
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_00: She takes them and hides them all over her house.
• 41:03
  And she had one,
• 41:04
  a really large duck,
• 41:07
  that she was just hiding everywhere.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: And my husband and I were totally clueless.
• 41:11
  And she was sending pictures to my mom every day like,
• 41:15
  oh,
• 41:15
  I hid it in the vegetable thing.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_00: She had it in the refrigerator.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't see it.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, yeah, it was behind the food.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_00: And she's sending all these pictures to my mom.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_00: And my mom was finally like...
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, have you looked around and noticed a duck moving?
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, yeah.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, I did see a duck under the TV the other day.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: What was that about?
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: A little scavenger hunt.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: That's cute.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's really cute.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_03: I like that.
• 41:43
  I had a friend in high school who at one point we he got a I
• 41:50
  don't know where he acquired it.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_03: He got a bag of rubber ducks.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_03: He's like very smaller than those ones.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_03: They were like little.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_03: They're meant for carnival games, I think.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_03: But it was a hot summer day,
• 42:01
  so we trucked around town and we found cars with their windows
• 42:04
  slightly open and we
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_03: popped them in to the cars.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_03: We were big fans of doing that odd Dada humor like that.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: My friends and I used to drive when we'd be on big road trips in college.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: We would take cameras and take pictures of people as we drove past.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: Which is a little bit sketchy.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's a little... That's a little peculiar.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_00: But we...
• 42:33
  A friend of mine and I did this amazing photo series of random
• 42:36
  people's reactions
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_00: as we drove.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds like... Those are hijinks.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_03: I think hijinks are important for children.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_00: But we weren't trying to like... It wasn't...
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: We weren't trying to make fun of people.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_00: We were just trying to get reactions to people.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_03: You don't need to justify yourself.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_03: It's hijinks.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_03: Hijinks are okay.
• 42:58
  Yeah,
• 42:58
  but then you get into,
• 42:59
  like,
• 42:59
  pranks,
• 43:00
  and we just had April Fool's,
• 43:01
  which I wanted.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's not bad spirit.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_03: I suppose taking pictures of people,
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_03: people can get jumpy about that,
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_03: but I don't feel like that's bad spirit.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_03: Pranks, I don't have a problem with as long as they're not poor-spirited.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_03: Like, cruel pranks I don't like.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a prank person.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a joke person.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't do anything for April Fool's.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_00: I hate April Fool's Day.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_03: I used to be more into it.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not as much now.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_00: I've never, I don't know.
• 43:35
  So you,
• 43:37
  I want to point out,
• 43:39
  are unhappy because I always call you bougie.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: No, not bougie.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's the snobby.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_03: I'm going to put my cards on the table here.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_03: So it should be clarified.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_03: You travel well.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_03: You travel well.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_03: You travel in style.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: Only when I'm with myself and when it's for work.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because if I'm traveling,
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: 15 hours to go to meetings and stuff,
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to have nice seats on a plane.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_00: But with my family, it is not that way.
• 44:16
  But what I'm saying is,
• 44:18
  you're not spending,
• 44:19
  this isn't a major spend for you necessarily.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_03: It's you are leveraging points to do this, correct?
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 44:30
  So a lot of people look at the fact that we go to Europe so
• 44:34
  often and say like,
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: oh,
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: I wish I could go to Europe someday or I wish I could do this.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of people don't realize how easy it is.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_00: We are stuck going to Europe a lot just because we have family members.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_00: who cannot come to the US because of visa issues.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_00: But we can go see them in Europe.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_00: So we just end up going all the time.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_00: So it's the only way to see my niece and my sister-in-law.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_00: But we're there a lot.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_00: We put everything,
• 45:00
  I put all of my work and my personal spending on United cards
• 45:06
  and then just pay it
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_00: off as cash.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_00: But you get all the points.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_00: It helps you maintain status.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_00: When you have status, you get like 11 times points.
• 45:14
  And I just,
• 45:16
  I always have like hundreds of thousands of miles in my United account.
• 45:20
  So when the four of us go overseas,
• 45:24
  it's usually,
• 45:25
  I bought the tickets for like $500 total.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_03: And that's, I do a similar thing.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_03: I don't, I don't have brand loyalty kind of things.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_00: Which I do have to say brand loyalty does pay off.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_03: It does.
• 45:41
  So I just do the simpler,
• 45:44
  the more brand agnostic version of this with chase cards.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_03: I have.
• 45:49
  different types of chase cards that i'll pay different points
• 45:51
  of different
• 45:51
  purchases and then i just save up the points and like on this
• 45:55
  trip we took most of
• 45:57
  the cost of our hotel we drove but most of the cost of our
• 46:00
  hotels i'd afraid with
• 46:02
  chase points so i booked the chase portal i i got sweets so not
• 46:08
  like you know wild
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: fancy you know but not courtney sweets no
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_03: But, like, you know, embassy suites, residence inn kind of thing.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_03: Two-room suites when you have young kids,
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_03: great,
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_03: because that way my wife and I don't have to go to bed when the kids do.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_03: I don't like going to bed at 8, 830.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_03: But so that's – so I would get those,
• 46:32
  and I would just pay in points to bring the price down to about
• 46:36
  $100 for cash,
• 46:38
  which I feel like is a perfectly reasonable price to pay for it
• 46:41
  nightly for a hotel
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_03: when you're on a trip.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: So a lot of times when we're in Europe,
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: we rent houses just because I have boy,
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: girl,
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: teenagers.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_00: They're not like they will share a room.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_00: They will not share a bed.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_00: But it's just easier for us if they have their own room, you know.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: Especially because they're like young teenagers and stuff's changing.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's just easier.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_00: So we always end up renting.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_00: We'll just stay at Airbnbs and Furbos and things.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I keep the price under $200 easily a night.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_03: It's my understanding.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_03: Airbnb and Furbo...
• 47:19
  And that style of thing is by saying Europe is somewhat
• 47:23
  different and better than
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_03: it is in America.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's the American experience.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_03: I, I'm not sure.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_03: I think I've only really stayed in one of those kinds of things once.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_03: And I didn't,
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_03: I don't like having to clean up after yourself at the end of it is just,
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_03: I,
• 47:41
  I am happy to pay for the extra to have a hotel with a front
• 47:45
  desk person.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_03: So if something goes wrong, I can talk to the front desk person.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_03: I don't have to clean up.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_03: I have to clean my stuff.
• 47:51
  I don't have to make sure all the beds are stripped and the
• 47:56
  bathrooms are thoroughly clean.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not interested in that.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_03: But as my understanding,
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_03: in Europe,
• 48:00
  it's much more overall economical because especially a lot of –
• 48:04
  let's be honest.
• 48:05
  Most of Europe's economy,
• 48:06
  especially depending on where you are right now,
• 48:08
  is tourism.
• 48:10
  And their population is declining,
• 48:13
  so they had a lot of free housing to put up on Airbnb.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: They also have really strict rules in hotels,
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_00: especially if your kids are over 13,
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_00: and my son is.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_00: They don't always count as kids in certain countries.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_03: Do they charge you extra for having kids?
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_00: No, you need a different room.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, what?
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_00: So this is why we do houses like that most often.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: But like,
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'll say Budapest,
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_00: for example,
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_00: when we were there,
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: the Airbnb we were staying in was being inspected that day.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like they have to be inspected every year.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: That makes sense.
• 48:57
  I feel like we'd be better off doing more of that in America,
• 49:00
  to be honest.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_03: This is one of the reasons I'm not a libertarian.
• 49:06
  I think that having government regulations and inspections on
• 49:09
  specific things is
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_03: sometimes a good thing.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: It works a lot better in places like that.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_00: I've stayed in so many cities like solo and then,
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: rented a big house with either my family or with friends.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_00: You can keep the costs down a lot more there.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's also so much cheaper than being in the U.S.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_00: Food is a lot cheaper.
• 49:34
  Cost of living in general is cheaper in Europe because the
• 49:40
  Europeans are poorer
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_03: than Americans by a pretty substantial margin,
• 49:43
  especially when you figure in that the salary they are getting
• 49:49
  is taxed at a much
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_03: higher rate for the social programs they have to pay.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_03: You don't have to pay that tax.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_03: You're just visiting.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_00: Unless you're in Stad or something.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's definitely a lot cheaper.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know why you'd be in Stad.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_00: I've always wanted to go to Stad.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_00: You don't ski.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, the whole Opry, you know, circuit isn't really calling to you.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not interested in going to the places that everyone wants to go to.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_03: And this is true when I travel into cities.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_03: I think I've said this before.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_03: When I travel into cities,
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_03: or if I travel anywhere,
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_03: I try to find the place that the people who live there go,
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_03: not the place that the people who visit there go.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_03: This is true for in general in travel.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_03: The places I want to go are the cities that...
• 50:45
  are the actual working cities,
• 50:47
  not the showcase cities for tourists to gawk at.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_00: I like both.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: Which is fine.
• 50:55
  Tourist stuff is popular because there's a lot of really good
• 50:58
  things to see as you
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: travel the world.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_03: But there's a lot of people there.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of people there.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_03: People are the worst.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_00: So here's my other tip.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_00: I never travel in summer.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like I would rather,
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_00: this is going to be the snobbiest thing that sounding,
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_00: but it actually makes total sense.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_00: I would never go to Europe in summer.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_00: Just like Europe in summer is a nightmare.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: Everything is so much more expensive.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's so hot.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_00: They don't believe in AC.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like, for me, it's a miss for so many reasons.
• 51:32
  But I do off-season travel and that helps with a lot because
• 51:35
  then you can go to
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_00: really crowded places.
• 51:37
  Like we took our kids to Venice at Christmas and it was crowded
• 51:43
  in the square,
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: but you stepped off the square and we had the city to ourselves.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: It was great.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_03: The next level, you need to go to Finland in winter.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_03: That's hard to be winter.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_03: Northern Finland.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_00: I actually am dying to go to Lapland sometime.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_03: The land of the laps.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_00: Well,
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_00: they do whole Christmas packages where you can go,
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_00: they bring you out and you're sledding and you're in the Arctic Circle.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_00: So you watch the Northern Lights and they have like,
• 52:14
  I would love to do that before my kids graduate and leave me or
• 52:18
  while they're still
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: in college,
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: whatever.
• 52:20
  Before they're like fully on their own,
• 52:22
  I would love to go to Lapland in winter.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a dream vacation for me.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's going to be cold though.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_03: Also, it's going to be night for most of the time.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_03: I'm fine with that.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_03: Honestly,
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_03: but honestly,
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_03: that sounds better to me than going anywhere like,
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_03: in the South in America or anywhere that's going to be hot this summer.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_03: I'll take super cold over super hot any day of the week.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_00: Even just France.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_00: We did France in September and we were all dying, dying, dying.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_00: It was so, so hot.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_00: And like Germany in July.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_00: We did legitimately almost die.
• 52:58
  We ended up leaving my brother-in-law's house for a while
• 53:02
  because it was like the
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_00: hottest summer on record.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_00: This was like five years ago.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_00: And his apartment is on the third floor, no AC.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_00: It was like 90 degrees inside.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_03: And they don't believe in fans in Germany.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_03: They they're very fiercely against.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, they they are.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_00: They like air movement.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I am with the Germans on this.
• 53:25
  Luke was making fun of me last night because I had the window
• 53:27
  wide open and I was
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_00: freezing in bed.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, you're freezing.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_00: And it's you have the window open.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I need fresh air.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I need that.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_00: And Germans are like that.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_00: They'll always have the windows open.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_00: They have a fan on.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_00: They need air circulation.
• 53:41
  If they will say,
• 53:42
  like,
• 53:42
  if you don't have enough fresh air,
• 53:44
  that's how you get cold.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: However, my Belarusian sister-in-law is like...
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_00: There can't be any draft.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_00: You can't have the windows open.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's so crazy.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_03: That's a regional thing in Germany because I will tell you,
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_03: there's a German word for the dangers of a draft.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_00: It would have to be an East German thing.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: West German are very much like... It might be.
• 54:13
  Because you have to think if you were in East Germany or if you
• 54:17
  grew up in...
• 54:20
  soviet country like my sister-in-law is from if you had a draft
• 54:25
  you were getting
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_00: sick because that meant like yeah maybe my asthma
• 54:33
  I assume they most don't have as much issues with bugs in Europe,
• 54:36
  which I find fascinating.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_03: When we were in England, they don't have screens in their windows.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_03: We were staying in this hotel.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_03: No screens in the windows.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_03: No bugs got in.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know how it happened.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_03: As soon as you open the windows of my house, we get swarmed.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_03: There's going to be flies all over.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_03: There's going to be carpenter bees trying to burrow into the woodwork.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_03: But England, no problem.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: It depends where you are.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_00: I am one of those people who's a mosquito magnet.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I can tell you I've been bit by mosquitoes even in the UK.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_03: There just seems to be less.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_03: Or they don't care.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think they just don't care.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_03: I find that unfathomable.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_03: I don't like bugs in my house.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_03: I don't like ants.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_03: We have ants on our countertops.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know how to get rid of them.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_03: I got borax.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_03: We're going to try to put that down.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_03: Vinegar.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_03: Vinegar?
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_03: They just take over and they're all over the place.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_03: I don't like the ants.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'm used to ants.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's a Western thing.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_00: I grew up in Los Angeles.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_00: Ants?
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_00: Day that ends in Y. Yeah.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_03: I did not.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_03: I grew up in the Northeast.
• 55:54
  There are ants,
• 55:55
  but they're normally on the outside if you see them inside.
• 55:57
  We're not far enough south where roaches become an everyday occurrence,
• 56:01
  thank God.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_03: Or in New York City where roaches are also an everyday occurrence.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we don't really have a ton of bugs.
• 56:10
  If we leave our doors open,
• 56:11
  we're full of mosquitoes and flies,
• 56:13
  but that's it.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's because you're so high up.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_03: Again, you're in the stratosphere.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's also because it's dry.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_03: Well, yes.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: My yard is brown.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_03: Not dry here.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_03: So I was looking, you were talking about Hungary earlier.
• 56:35
  I was looking at traveling to,
• 56:42
  I can't remember the name of the capital of Hungary.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_03: Tell it to me.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's Budapest.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_03: Budapest.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_03: That's it.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I was looking at tickets of Budapest.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_00: I was actually, I'm sorry.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_03: I just forget things.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_03: I'm getting old.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_03: I was looking at the tickets were surprisingly not expensive to fly.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_03: And I tried to sell my wife on this.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, yeah, we can go to Budapest.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_03: Julie.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_03: No, we're not.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_03: We're not just going to spend.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_03: But it was I was like, it wasn't bad.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_03: It was like five hundred dollars a ticket or something.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's reasonable to go to Budapest.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_03: Google Google flight said it was a low price.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_00: Under she's not buying it.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_00: Under 800 is pretty good.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_03: I married a practical woman, which has its ups and its downs.
• 57:25
  She's very much like,
• 57:25
  well,
• 57:26
  we have better things to spend the money on it.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we do have better things.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_03: That's true.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_03: But I want to go to spur of the moment by taking us to Budapest.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, in my marriage, neither of us are very practical.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's dangerous.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: We're very fanciful in very different ways.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_00: I would travel full-time if I could.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_00: My husband would not be happy with that.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_00: It gives him a mess.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_00: I actually had never really traveled until we got married.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_00: I had been to UK like on a, you know, they do high school trips.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: It was like a high school history trip.
• 58:00
  I did one and then I had been to Canada and Mexico because I
• 58:04
  lived in Washington
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_00: State and California.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_00: So we just like drove.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_00: But I hadn't really, really left the country until...
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_00: I got married and, and now I'm like addicted to traveling.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_00: And my husband is like,
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_00: well,
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_00: we'll go a little bit,
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_00: but I don't really,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm like,
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  SPEAKER_00: you lived,
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  SPEAKER_00: he lived abroad a lot.
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  SPEAKER_03: Men become homebodies as we age.
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  SPEAKER_03: For the most part,
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  SPEAKER_03: we just like,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  we get comfortable and get into our comfortable little rut and
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  don't want to get
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  SPEAKER_03: out of it.
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  But I do want to say that we should try to talk your wife into
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  a family trip for
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  SPEAKER_00: you guys to Budapest because it's such a great city.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's so clean.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's so safe.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's great for kids.
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  SPEAKER_03: She would love to go to Budapest.
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  But again,
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  she is the practical one who makes the decent point that,
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  you know,
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  we have...
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  other things for our money we need to get you to have more
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  twitter engagement and
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  we'll get some extra funds for it budapest is seriously make
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  enough money off of
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  twitter to fly myself make me and my family to budapest it's
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  such a great city i
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  haven't done it with my kids yet and i'm dying to there's this
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  kids railway that i
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  really want to go on so kids operate everything on this railway
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  and it it's like a
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  SPEAKER_03: funicular i think that's i think that's illegal in america
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  SPEAKER_00: It is illegal in America, but it's not in Hungary.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're describing child labor here.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's great.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's good to learn about the railway and it's a fun project.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm fine with that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think we were better.
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  SPEAKER_03: The children yearn for the mines.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is, I think, true.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're obsessed with the TikToks because they're not down mining.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's why my kids still play Minecraft.
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  But,
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  so,
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  what is,
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  because this is useful information to have and I don't know it,
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  SPEAKER_03: How far out should you buy tickets?
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_03: I was looking at the flights to Budapest.
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  A year out seemed cheaper,
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  although the flights weirdly cut off in mid-February up to now.
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  I wouldn't buy a year out because a lot of times it will change
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  the schedule on you,
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  too.
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  Oh,
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  and do they honor your ticket at another time where you have to
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  pay the price differences?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_00: It just changes the time.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_00: But then sometimes if you,
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_00: depending on your connection,
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_00: if you don't know the timetable as well,
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_00: you will have to change.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I do just have to caution anyone.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_00: Google Flights is a great tool.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not talking anyone against it.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_00: But never book through like,
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_00: the third-party sites when you're booking tickets,
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_00: because if you need to get a refund or you need to change it,
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_00: a lot of those you can't change.
• 1:01:00
  I've had to eat the cost of really low-cost tickets that I've
• 1:01:05
  done when things
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_00: changed and I needed to get somewhere else,
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_00: and I had to just eat the cost.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_03: So you save money, but at what cost?
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_00: I definitely did not save money on that one, but...
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_00: It was a really cheap one way,
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  but I want to say it was like a $350 ticket to Paris that I had
• 1:01:29
  to just ignore and rebook.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_03: I think a lot of airlines have now cracked down.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_03: For a while,
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_03: there was this weird heyday where you could do the,
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_03: oh,
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_03: it's what they call a flag skip or skip lag.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_03: There was a thing where you,
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_03: I want to go to Paris,
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_03: so I buy a ticket to Stuttgart because Stuttgart is cheaper.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_03: And then you just don't take the Stuttgart leg.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm kind of the queen of this because I do try to pack.
• 1:02:01
  Well,
• 1:02:02
  lately I have given up on it,
• 1:02:04
  but sometimes I would try to pack just in carry-ons.
• 1:02:08
  And on those times I'm like,
• 1:02:10
  oh yeah,
• 1:02:11
  I'll just get a cheap flight to blah,
• 1:02:12
  blah,
• 1:02:12
  blah.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_00: But you can't, you haven't been able to do that for years.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_03: Cause,
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_03: cause they,
• 1:02:17
  I think they started banning people from like flying on the
• 1:02:21
  airline for doing it,
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_03: like for doing it.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_00: They cancel your legs of your trip.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_03: Which is a shame.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_03: I kind of get it, but at the same time, what do you care?
• 1:02:32
  Why do they care if you're...
• 1:02:34
  But it's because they're factoring a lot of stuff in.
• 1:02:37
  I think a lot of people don't appreciate how much stuff is
• 1:02:39
  factored into running an airline.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_00: I think you're giving the airlines a lot more credit than they deserve.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think you're giving them enough credit.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_00: The airlines...
• 1:02:51
  yeah there's so many ways that you can make it really
• 1:02:53
  affordable like this summer
• 1:02:55
  I'm not thrilled pricing Scotland stuff and I'm trying to be
• 1:03:00
  like hey can we just
• 1:03:02
  go to Scotland for the concert and go somewhere else on the
• 1:03:06
  continent that's
• 1:03:07
  cheaper like Budapest this is your back door to go to Budapest
• 1:03:13
  and I haven't taken
• 1:03:14
  my kids there my husband's obsessed with it like he really
• 1:03:16
  wants to go it's so
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: beautiful and
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_00: I love it so much.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_00: I had my parents go there last December and it was great.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_00: I was FaceTiming them all the time.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, no, no, no, don't go to that restaurant.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_00: Go to this one.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_00: I love that city.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I need to take my children there.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_03: Perhaps one day we'll be able to record this very podcast from Budapest.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_03: Wouldn't that be nice?
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_00: Coordinating two families.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_00: You think we're going to be able to do that?
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_00: You can't even get your family out there.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_00: You think we're going to be able to coordinate two families?
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_00: A nice thought though.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I can just take my daughter with.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_03: I think we've covered what we're going to cover today.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_03: We've had a nice chat.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_00: We'll try to do these more often.
• 1:04:08
  It was our intention to start doing two a week,
• 1:04:10
  and we couldn't even get one up last week.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I was traveling.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_03: We do need to start doing two a week.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'll have more time coming up.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_03: I think we need to do that.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_03: You'll have more time.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I need to not be so blonde about recording when I'm not at home.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's okay.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_00: I need to find better sound.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_03: You do fine.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_00: No,
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_00: like I need to figure out,
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_00: because remember we did the newer,
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_00: when I was in New Orleans,
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_00: we did one and the sound is so horrible.
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_00: It was so bad.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_00: I also have room service in the middle of that one, so.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was awkward.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_00: It'll never see the light of day.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_03: Get yourself one of those little, well, the Yeti snowball.
• 1:04:51
  SPEAKER_03: I think those are made for traveling.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, it's like a little Yeti.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_00: I need to look through my piles of camera gear.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure I have something.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_00: But we will try to do more and maybe come up with actual themes.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_03: I think it works okay as just chatting.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_03: I think we did a good job today.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_03: We were a little unfocused, but we also just had a good chat.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_03: Talked about interesting stuff.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_00: Family travel.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone should do it.
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_03: Very important.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_03: Bye-bye.