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INTERVIEW: Governor Wes Moore On The Power Of Policy, Combatting Child Poverty, Riding For Kamala + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that answer up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Chelamaine the guy.
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  Speaker 4: We are the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: Laura LaRosa filling in for Jess, and we had our
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  Speaker 3: systems Angela Rie with us this morning. And we got
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  Speaker 3: a special guest in the building. And we have the
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  Speaker 3: Governor of Maryland. Ladies and gentlemen, Governor Wes Moore. Welcome, brother,
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be back.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be back.
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  Speaker 1: Good to see y'all.
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  Speaker 4: How are you feeling.
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  Speaker 1: I'm blessed, I'm good. I'm feeling feeling, feeling really good.
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  Speaker 1: We're almost there. We got twenty six days in a
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  Speaker 1: wake up to go do something special.
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  Speaker 2: How are you feeling? How are you feeling about the
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  Speaker 2: chances of Madame Vice President?
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 5: I think this race is gonna be close. I think
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  Speaker 5: that this race is always gonna be close. This race
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  Speaker 5: can be close up into election day. I think this
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  Speaker 5: is a turnout game. And that's why I think that
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  Speaker 5: this isn't about are we swaying people one way or another?
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  Speaker 5: It's are we motivating people to come out in the
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  Speaker 5: first place? And you're not finding a team that's working
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  Speaker 5: harder right now, both amongst the Vice President who has
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  Speaker 5: just been I mean, I think she's just running fantastic
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  Speaker 5: campaign and she's the right candidate. But in addition to that,
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  Speaker 5: you have a whole army of surrogates who are out
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  Speaker 5: here every single day in all the battleground states speaking
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  Speaker 5: to our constituents and our jurisdictions and letting people know
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  Speaker 5: what's his stake and what we can actually get done
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  Speaker 5: if we actually get out there and make our voices hurt.
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  Speaker 6: You feel like the surrogates got activated too late for
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  Speaker 6: the Democratic Party, because even when President Biden was running,
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  Speaker 6: I was saying that, yo, he should be leaning on
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  Speaker 6: people like you, leaning on Governor Gretchen, with leaning on
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  Speaker 6: Governor Shapiro, leaning on the VP at the time. Do
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  Speaker 6: you feel like the surrogates got activated too late? And
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  Speaker 6: if so, why did y'all to just fall back?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I don't I don't know if it was
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  Speaker 5: activated too late, because I mean, you know, when I
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  Speaker 5: think about myself and and and Gretchen and Josh and
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  Speaker 5: countless others, you know, we've been out there and fighting
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  Speaker 5: and advocating at that time for President Biden. But then
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  Speaker 5: you know, we're we're grateful we have such that he
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  Speaker 5: has such an extraordinary vice president, and we're going to
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  Speaker 5: have such an extordinary president come January.
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  Speaker 1: And Vice President Kamala.
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  Speaker 4: Hers, what do you I'm sorry, No.
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  Speaker 5: I mean so, I mean, I don't I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if I would say that things got activated activated too late,
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  Speaker 5: because also I think we have to remember and consistently
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  Speaker 5: give grace to the vice president. I mean, she's had
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  Speaker 5: a presidential campaign, what for ten weeks. In ten weeks,
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  Speaker 5: she stood up an entire new campaign. She was able
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  Speaker 5: to get all of the delegates and all the delegates
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  Speaker 5: she needed. They ran a very successful convention. She had
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  Speaker 5: a very successful role out of a vice president. She's
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  Speaker 5: gone through not just her demolishing her debate with Trump
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  Speaker 5: and then also Governor Watz's And that's been ten weeks.
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  Speaker 5: So I do think we have to give a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of grace to what has actually happened in just
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  Speaker 5: a pretty short period of time.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to ask, what do you think they
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  Speaker 4: need to do more of?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: You know, we talked about, of course, the media blist
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  Speaker 3: that they've been doing this week, talking to more and
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  Speaker 3: more people. You know, we felt for a long time
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  Speaker 3: that they didn't. And we've seen Trump and JD out
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  Speaker 3: there like crazy. So what do you think they need
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  Speaker 3: to do more to connect to those people that might
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  Speaker 3: be still on the fence of which way they want
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  Speaker 3: to go.
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  Speaker 5: I think they need to keep doing what they're doing,
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  Speaker 5: which is going on speaking directly to people. You know,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I hear people say, well, they need to
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  Speaker 5: do more sit down interviews, they need to go and
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  Speaker 5: meet the press. They needed this, respectfully. I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: don't know if that's gonna move an election. If she
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  Speaker 5: needs to go and meet the press more, or she
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  Speaker 5: needs to go and face the nation, or she needs
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  Speaker 5: to go on Fox News, go to the people, because
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  Speaker 5: the people are gonna be the ones to help them
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  Speaker 5: determine how this election goes and how people are and
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  Speaker 5: how people are going to see and receive. And I
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  Speaker 5: think the other big thing that we've got to do
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  Speaker 5: is I understand that, you know, she's running against someone
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  Speaker 5: who is historically and uniquely unqualified and prepared for this role. Right,
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  Speaker 5: we're talking about someone who who and let's just take
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  Speaker 5: the past seventy two hours, right, the past seventy two hours,
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  Speaker 5: we just got reports that he was deciding how much
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  Speaker 5: aid to give California during wildfires based on their voting districts.
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  Speaker 1: Right in the past event.
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  Speaker 5: Two hours, we had him say, literally say that Vice
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  Speaker 5: President Kamala Harris was born mentally impaired. Right in the
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  Speaker 5: past seventy two hours, we have seen how the signature
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  Speaker 5: injury of Iraq in Afghanistan, and I'm a very proud
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  Speaker 5: veteran of the Afghanistan war, and the signature injury over
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  Speaker 5: five hundred thousand people who have been diagnosed with traumatic
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  Speaker 5: brain injuries. Right, the signature injury. We heard the former
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  Speaker 5: president of the United States say it's nothing more than headaches.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So, I mean, you.
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  Speaker 5: Ain't even mentioned the Putin stuff, and not even mention
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  Speaker 5: the fact that that he's got this consistent thing going
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  Speaker 5: on with Putin. So my thing is, I don't think
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  Speaker 5: we need to spend a whole lot more time talking
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  Speaker 5: about the dangers Donald Trump, frankly, he tells on himself
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  Speaker 5: every single day. Right, I think we have just continually
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  Speaker 5: push and articulate the vision for the Vice president, which
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  Speaker 5: is actually a vision not just that brings us together,
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  Speaker 5: but is detailed. You know, when we're talking about things
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  Speaker 5: like a six thousand dollars child tax credit. That could
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  Speaker 5: be the most aggressive push that we can make on
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  Speaker 5: a federal level to end chop poverty that we have
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  Speaker 5: seen in this country. When she's talking about things like
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  Speaker 5: an increasing capital and liquidity to our small businesses and
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  Speaker 5: to our minority owned businesses, making sure that going from
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  Speaker 5: an idea into a large concepts and something that you're hiring, hiring,
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  Speaker 5: you know, tens and thousands of people, can be real
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  Speaker 5: for all communities and.
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  Speaker 1: Not just some.
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  Speaker 5: These are detailed plans that she's laying out her housing
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  Speaker 5: package about how to focus on transit oriented development and
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  Speaker 5: how to focus on density bonuses and increasing inventory and
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  Speaker 5: turning renters into homeowners like these are details, These are
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  Speaker 5: concepts of a plan.
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  Speaker 1: These are detailed plans.
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  Speaker 5: And so as long as she continues to do that,
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  Speaker 5: and for all of us, because all of us as
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  Speaker 5: are sarrogates, we will continue pushing that message as well.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that's going to be the message that
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  Speaker 5: is going to win the day and not so much
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  Speaker 5: focusing on, you know, the dangers of Trump.
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  Speaker 1: I think people get that.
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  Speaker 3: Let me ask you one more question. You know a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people out there feel like both sides just
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  Speaker 3: don't really care that it's all a political game, right,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Can you pull up that audio A
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  Speaker 3: gentleman called this is the perfect way to say it.
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  Speaker 3: A guy called today from Florida Tampa and he's dealing
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  Speaker 3: with the hurricanes, and you know he pretty much will
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  Speaker 3: say it, stop playing with me?
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  Speaker 4: Can you flan?
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  Speaker 7: It don't matter what that is? Democrat, Republican, may all
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  Speaker 7: prison man, all about money. Bro, I think these people
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  Speaker 7: care about American people. Bro It shit hurt, bro. This
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  Speaker 7: should hurt, bro. People wake up every day. It's one
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  Speaker 7: of a life.
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  Speaker 8: Bro.
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  Speaker 7: You got these fucking Greek snakes Man. You got these
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  Speaker 7: fucking greed snakes call themselves government purpose people broke, and
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  Speaker 7: they don't give a damn. Bro. They don't give a
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  Speaker 7: damn about the micro's coming over here. They're using them too.
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  Speaker 9: Man.
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  Speaker 7: It shit ain't right, man.
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  Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 7: Come bike man.
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  Speaker 2: He said you wish God could come back.
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  Speaker 3: That's the sentiments we've been hearing a lot from just
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  Speaker 3: just open them up, the phone lines and how people
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  Speaker 3: feel about government officials. So what do you say to
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  Speaker 3: those people that really feel like they have no hope
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  Speaker 3: where they're saying, I wish God toud come back.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, here's listening to them, because it's real, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I we can't forget man.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and when people.
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  Speaker 5: Talk about what's the frustration that people feel, I think
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  Speaker 5: for a lot of people, it's not a frustration with
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  Speaker 5: the vice presidents, not a frustration with the political party.
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  Speaker 5: It's the frustration with the pace of progress in this
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  Speaker 5: country period. It's just a frustration that it's like every
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  Speaker 5: few years we have these conversations and people do not
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  Speaker 5: feel that their lives are improving fast enough, particularly when
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  Speaker 5: they're looking the lives of other people who are improving faster.
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  Speaker 5: And so I mean, when I hear that, it's not
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  Speaker 5: just heartbreaking. But but I'm listening to this brother, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying what he's saying is justified, and listen, I
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  Speaker 5: you know, obviously I don't come I don't come from
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  Speaker 5: a political family. I don't come from a political background.
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  Speaker 5: The first elected offic is I ever ran for over
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  Speaker 5: as governor and and I literally I was I was
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  Speaker 5: trying to convince members of my family to vote for
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  Speaker 5: me when I ran for governor, like real talk. And
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't like I was trying to convince them to vote.
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  Speaker 5: From me, I was trying to convince them to vote.
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  Speaker 2: Why didn't they believe in you?
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  Speaker 1: That's another that's a whole other question because I know
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  Speaker 1: you from being the CEO of the Robbin Hoo Foundations.
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  Speaker 2: You've always been in the public service. Yeah, why didn't they.
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  Speaker 4: Believe in you?
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  Speaker 2: Because you've been doing the work.
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  Speaker 8: Anybody gonna harp on your pains.
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  Speaker 1: Laugh at it, laugh at it, just laugh at it.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, tell me again out your family don't believe it?
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  Speaker 1: Stop right there.
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  Speaker 5: No, But it's like it's that I don't know if
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  Speaker 5: they believed in the American political system. MM, like, can
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  Speaker 5: you actually make a difference in that seat?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: We don't.
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  Speaker 5: I literally I I have members of my family who
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  Speaker 5: I will talk to like, oh yeah, election Day was
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  Speaker 5: last week, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Because people just live in their lives.
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  Speaker 5: They're not caught up in all this, And I think
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  Speaker 5: there's there's there's a there's a few things that I
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  Speaker 5: try to remind them and not even say to this,
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  Speaker 5: say to you know, say to this brother who you
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  Speaker 5: know again, our heart is breaking for them because it
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  Speaker 5: is real. The one thing I would say is. It
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  Speaker 5: is important to remember even for those who feel like well,
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  Speaker 5: who's sitting in these seats doesn't matter to me and
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  Speaker 5: the political system doesn't involve me and I'm not engaging it,
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  Speaker 5: I would just say never forget that everything about your
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  Speaker 5: life is a policy decision. Yep, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 5: from from the home you woke up in this morning,
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  Speaker 5: to the water that you're drinking from them, from the
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  Speaker 5: tap when you get up in the morning, from the
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  Speaker 5: transportation that you have to go to work, or that
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  Speaker 5: for your kids to go to school, for the school
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  Speaker 5: your kids are attending, for the way you are policed,
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  Speaker 5: to every aspect of your life is a policy decision.
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  Speaker 5: Someone intentionally made a decision about you and the community
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  Speaker 5: you come up in. So do not think for a
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  Speaker 5: second that this stuff doesn't matter. But I will say too,
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  Speaker 5: I will say to that brother who And also to say,
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  Speaker 5: the amount of misinformation that's coming out right now about
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  Speaker 5: what the Biden Harris administration are doing and not doing
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  Speaker 5: it is staggering, and it is dangerous because there are
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  Speaker 5: people who are in true danger because the misinformation is
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  Speaker 5: so clouding the accurate information that people are not getting
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  Speaker 5: the services and supports that are there and in place
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  Speaker 5: and mobilizing to support them.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, when I think.
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  Speaker 5: About why, one of the big reasons I'm so all
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  Speaker 5: in for the Vice President is because I have seen
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  Speaker 5: her work, and I've seen her work in difficult times.
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  Speaker 5: I've seen her work in crisis. I saw how she
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  Speaker 5: was an amazing partner to us in Maryland when the
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  Speaker 5: Key Bridge, when the Key Bridge collapsed, when it was
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  Speaker 5: hit by a ship the size of three football fields.
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  Speaker 5: And the first you know, I remember at two two
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  Speaker 5: in the morning when my phone rang to let me
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  Speaker 5: know that a two mile span bridge was now sitting
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  Speaker 5: at the bottom of the Tasco River. That the Port
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  Speaker 5: of Baltimore, which really is America's port, I mean it
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  Speaker 5: services two thirds of this entire country, was now shut down,
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  Speaker 5: and around thirteen percent of my state's economy was now gone.
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  Speaker 5: That there were thousands of workers who were about to
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  Speaker 5: wake up and realize they didn't have a job anymore.
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  Speaker 5: And where we had six port workers, sixty six workers
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  Speaker 5: on the bridge who were fixing potholes in the middle
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  Speaker 5: of the night, who are now missing, and as we're
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  Speaker 5: mobilizing put the state on the state of emergency, having
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  Speaker 5: our state police divers in the water to work to
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  Speaker 5: save lives. I will never forget one of the early
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  Speaker 5: calls that I got. It literally started with three words, Gov.
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  Speaker 1: It's Kamala.
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  Speaker 5: And she said, I know you just spoke to the president,
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  Speaker 5: and I want to let I want to reiterate We're
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  Speaker 5: going to be with you every step of the way,
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  Speaker 5: and she has been. And so to the people who
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  Speaker 5: are heartbreaking me struggling due to Helene, to the folks
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  Speaker 5: in Florida. So the folks who right now are saying,
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  Speaker 5: do we have a government that sees us and is
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  Speaker 5: mobilizing for us? I can tell you from personal, firsthand experience,
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  Speaker 5: the answer is yes. And the person who we need
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  Speaker 5: sitting in that seat is Kamala Hers.
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  Speaker 9: You mentioned that there are a lot of folks, including
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  Speaker 9: in your family, who don't get caught up in all this,
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  Speaker 9: and one of the things that we've seen is a
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  Speaker 9: failed response from FEMA Katrina. You know, folks worried about
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  Speaker 9: how they'll respond to Milton at the time they were
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  Speaker 9: recording this. But this isn't the only space where you're
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  Speaker 9: engaging and being a surrogate. There's also a tremendous sister
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  Speaker 9: in Maryland running for the Senate Angela also Brooks oh
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  Speaker 9: yes who. If she wins and Lisa Blunt Rochester wins
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  Speaker 9: in Delaware, they'll become the fourth and the fifth ever
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  Speaker 9: to serve in the United States Senates in terms of
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  Speaker 9: Black women, fourth and the fifth in the history of
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  Speaker 9: the United States Senate. So it's exciting, but also it's
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  Speaker 9: devastating that they would be four and five historically to
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  Speaker 9: ever serve as black women and four and five black
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  Speaker 9: people in the Senate right now. It's certainly not on
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  Speaker 9: par with our demographics. Why is that race so important?
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  Speaker 9: And what challenges does Angela have yet to break through?
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  Speaker 9: Because it's the interview conversation. Isn't just about Vice President Harris,
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  Speaker 9: that's happening also with Angela.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so Angela spectacular.
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  Speaker 5: She's gonna make a great senator, you know about Actually,
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  Speaker 5: a little over a year ago, I endorsed Angela, and
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  Speaker 5: I remember people came up to me and they're like, listen,
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  Speaker 5: you know, in open races, and because again I was
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  Speaker 5: new to politics, we were like, we're just giving you a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of advice. In open races, generally sitting governors
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  Speaker 5: do not get involved in primaries. They don't endorse. And
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  Speaker 5: you saw other races around the country where the governor
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  Speaker 5: did not endorse in a primary and they just stayed
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  Speaker 5: out and they waited for the for the primary to
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  Speaker 5: be done. And I told him, I was like, listen,
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  Speaker 5: I really appreciate your counsel and I really appreciate your advice,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm supporting Angelo's books. It's both because she is
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  Speaker 5: she is going to be a remarkable senator, smart tested,
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  Speaker 5: and it's also because this moment was not I could
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  Speaker 5: not just sit silent in a moment when I knew
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  Speaker 5: everything that was at stake that we do know that
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  Speaker 5: this is about electing someone who is just who is
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  Speaker 5: going to be amazing to serve as my states, you know, senator,
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  Speaker 5: And my relationship with my senators and my Congression delegation
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  Speaker 5: is incredibly important. As the governor, we have a very
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  Speaker 5: tight relationship with them, and it's important. But it's also
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  Speaker 5: because it does not make sense to want to support
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  Speaker 5: Kamala Harris with the President of the United States and
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  Speaker 5: then also say, but I also want a Republican Senate,
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  Speaker 5: because that's exactly what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Evangel Alsobrooks does not win this race.
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  Speaker 5: We now have a Republican Senate who will turn around,
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  Speaker 5: led by Mitch McConnell and Tom Cotton and Ted Cruz
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  Speaker 5: and all these people who will basically turn around and
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  Speaker 5: try to block everything that is trying to happen. You
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  Speaker 5: can't say that I am for reproductive health and I'm
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  Speaker 5: for reproductive rights. In the ballot we have in the
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  Speaker 5: state of Maryland. Question one is to put reproductive health
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  Speaker 5: in our state's constitution. You can't say I'm for that
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  Speaker 5: and then say, but I want to have a Republican
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  Speaker 5: Senate who is then going to put together a national
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  Speaker 5: abortion band and supersede anything that we turn around and pass.
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  Speaker 5: And so I was really proud where you know, she
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  Speaker 5: ran it. She won a very tough primary where you
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  Speaker 5: know she was down by double digits and pulled together
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  Speaker 5: a remarkable win.
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  Speaker 1: But this is going to be a fight, and the
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  Speaker 1: fight is worth it.
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  Speaker 5: And so for even people who are not in Maryland,
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  Speaker 5: I was asking go to check out Angela Alsobrooks dot com, uh,
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  Speaker 5: and just really learn about this. This remarkable sister who
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: you know and who understands you know. I became only
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  Speaker 5: the third African American ever elected governor in the history
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  Speaker 5: of this country. Uh, the only in the first in
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  Speaker 5: my state. But I remember coming in and saying, you know,
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: while I'm proud to be the first, I know that's
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: not the assignment.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: We got work to do.
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  Speaker 5: And I know that both for Angela and also for
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: for Lisa, who again is another one. Please check out
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  Speaker 5: Lisa bon Rochester. I mean, the Senate is not ready
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: for these two. I can't wait.
• 15:31
  Speaker 8: No, they need to be ready.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: They need to be read for these too. They need
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: to be ready for these too.
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: But I'm telling you they're they're both spectacular and but
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: they're also coming in saying, yes, what they're doing is
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: uh is shattering at glass ceiling.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: But they also know that's not the assignment.
• 15:45
  Speaker 9: Are you concerned about the interest that folks have in
• 15:48
  Speaker 9: the former governor Larry Hogan, who is also a Brooks
• 15:51
  Speaker 9: opponent in this race. You talked about obstruction when you
• 15:55
  Speaker 9: think about what he did with the red Line in Maryland,
• 15:58
  Speaker 9: turning down a returning nine hundred million dollars to the
• 16:02
  Speaker 9: federal government after President Obama's administration gave that grant to
• 16:06
  Speaker 9: Maryland to sure of job opportunities.
• 16:08
  Speaker 8: I know you've brought it back in the form of
• 16:09
  Speaker 8: a light rail.
• 16:10
  Speaker 9: Can you talk about why his candidacy would be a
• 16:13
  Speaker 9: problem for Maryland?
• 16:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean seemingly forgot.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's and that's I think for a lot of people.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: That's what's so frustrating about politics for them is how
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: people can just so easily and freely switch and move
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: positions without any any understanding and justification law right.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: With the exception it's it's an election season.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: James Baldwin has this quote that I love where he says, uh,
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: I can't believe what you say because I see what
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: you do right, and I think that when we're looking
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: about the old governor, that's exactly what we're talking about,
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: where you can't tell me that you are now suddenly
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: pro choice when when you actually were in power, you
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: vetoed legislation around enhancing privacy, You vetled legislation around enhancing
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: protection that that on my first day of office, I
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: released three and a half million dollars of previously unreleased
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: fun to be able to help train providers so people
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: could actually safely safely have their reproductive health respected. Because
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: he wouldn't release that money because of political reasons that
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: you can't tell me that you're now going to focus
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: on public safety and focus on violence when the entire
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: time while you were the governor, the homicide rate in
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: the state of Maryland nearly doubled.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: You can't change this mind ouse people to use the
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: same rhetoric against the vice president.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: No, no, but by no, there's a difference between.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: There's a difference between saying that I continue to think
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: about these issues and learn about these issues and having
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: fundamental shifts and values. You know, I think about it
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: for myself, right I am when I think about what
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: it is that we're getting done in the state of Maryland.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: I can be flexible on tactics, but I'm unbendable on values.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: My values are my values. The things I stand for
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: are the things that I stand for. We're not watching
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: a flexibility on tactics here. We are watching a fundamental difference.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: You can't while you're the governor, while the old governor's
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: in there, say I'm I'm not going to sign legislation
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: around ghost guns and getting these illegal guns out of
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: our neighborhoods and off of our streets. You cannot say
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: that there's a plan that you have to be able
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: to solve the issue of violence Prome when frankly, for
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: eight years you gave thoughts and prayers and attended funerals,
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: but pass ninety single piece of legislation that actually makes
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: our community safer. Since our administration has come on board,
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Maryland has had amongst the fastest drops in homicides and
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: violent crime in this entire country. The last time the
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: homicide rate was this low in Baltimore City, I wasn't
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: born yet. Because when we came on board, we were like, na,
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: we're not just doing thoughts and prayers. We're actually going
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: to work in partnership with locals, working partnership with local
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: law enforcement, having increased technology and predictive analytics, being able
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: to work with community groups and community violence prevention groups,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: working with the Mayor of Baltimore, and working with our
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: other local jurisdictions. And we have now seen and again,
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: I look at these numbers. I mean I'm a data nerd.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: I look at these numbers constantly. We're now down twenty
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: nine nine percent this year year on year, and that's
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: after historic drops from the year before. So we're showing
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: that you can do two things at once you can
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: both respect people's constitutional authorities and constitution belief, you can
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: still respect people in their communities and also making people
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: safer and respecting and being able to reinforce law enforcement,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: and you don't have to choose between those things. That's
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: something that Angela also brooks. In the case of Maryland,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: while she was a state's attorney, the violent crime rate
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: in Prince George's county was cut by half while she
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: was a state's attorney. So she is a track record
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: of making us safer. The old governor does not. There's
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: a lot that he is to account for. And so
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: that's what I mean by I can't believe what you
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: say because I see what you do where these track
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: records are coming to light. And that's why I think
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: that people are people gonna back Angela.
• 19:48
  Speaker 10: When you talk about the track records, I instantly just
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: think about a conversation we were having earlier with the
• 19:52
  Speaker 10: hurricane relief, like the conversations back and forth between Kamala
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: and DeSantis. Right, Why isn't it with across the board,
• 19:58
  Speaker 10: Why aren't something just common sense? Because me, if I'm
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: political and I'm working in the Maryland Baltimore area, crime
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: is the first thing I think of trying to solve.
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: That's common sense. Why don't they do that on these
• 20:09
  Speaker 10: other levels, with these other issues like why isn't it
• 20:11
  Speaker 10: just this is what people need, let's figure it out.
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: Why why is it so hard?
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: No, it's a great point because I think one thing
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: I've learned about in this world of governance, it's all
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: about prioritization. What do you hold yourself to account to
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: and what are the things that you are going to prioritize.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: And so when we came in, we were very clear,
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: you know, the top priority for how we're going to
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: do our work is making sure that people feel safer
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: in their communities and in their neighborhoods. And that's why
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: we really took and all of the above approach and
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: the way that we're going to go about this work.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: But it was centered on one thing, humanity. It was
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: centered on this idea of who is it that we
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: are trying to support? And I know that I have
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: seen that throughout our time as government. If you never
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: forget who you're fighting for, you won't stop fighting, and
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: you'll continue to come up with ways and making sure
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: that you're centering here humanity inside of that work. And
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: so whether you're talking about making sure that kids are
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: safe in their classrooms, whether you're talking about people have
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: a chance to respond when these when these natural disasters
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: come on, you know, come on board. Whether it's making
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: sure that people have broadband access and that you're having
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: a technological revolution, that you're not just completely leaving people behind,
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: whether it's making sure that you're investing in health care
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: and not just not just health care in the in
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: certain parts of the state, but really making sure that
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: every part of your state is getting the health care
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: needs that can help them to not just thrive but
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: also but also truly grow inside that community. So I
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: think you've got to center your work on humanity and
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: never forget why you've gotten his business in the first place.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: And I think for a lot of people that is
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: a real challenge for them.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Can we go back to the pre governor Wes Moore?
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, because you know you said you never
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: ran for any office, right and I knew you from
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: being the CEO.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Of the Robbinoe Foundation last time I was here, That's right.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: So what made you want to run for governor and
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: what made you feel qualified for governor?
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: MM? Qualified.
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  Speaker 5: You know, It's funny because I remember when I got
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: in the race, there were three statewide elected officials, two
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: cabinet secretaries, one person that was on my board, which
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: made board meetings very awkward.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: And I remember that was the argument they kept.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: On throwing at me about you know, well, you know he,
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: how's he qualified? And I said, let me explain something,
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: And I said, I'm a kid who you know, watched
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: my father die in front of me when I was
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: three years old because he didn't get the health care
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: he needed. That I'm a person who had handcuffomeder wrists
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: when I was eleven because I came up in communities
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: that were overpolaced, and we knew it that my mother
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: did not get her first job that gave her benefits
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: until I was fourteen. And by the way, this is
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: a woman who went on earning master's degree. So any
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: conversations about inequitable pay between men and women or the
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: racial wealth gap, it's like, I don't need a white
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: paper to explain that that I'm a person who' drowed
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: the army when I was seventeen, that I led soldiers
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: in combat. I you know, I worked in finance, I
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: ran my own business, sold that business and turn around
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: and with CEO of one of the largest poverty fighting
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: organizations in this country. And my argument to them was
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: I am never in a remando belonging, and let's be clear,
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: I'll put my qualifications against any of them. And we
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: ended up winning with more individual votes than anyone who'd
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: ever run for governor in the history of the state
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: of Maryland. And I think about the thing that really
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: motivated me. And it's funny because we talked a little
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: bit about it last time I was here. Where who
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: sits in these seats? It does matter, and what they
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: prioritize does matter. And I remember, you know, one of
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: the issues that I will never I will never losing
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: importance of it. I do not understand why in this
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: country we allow child poverty. I don't get how we're
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: allowing the destiny of our children to be determined before.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: They even have a say, right, and.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: So chop poverty thoughts with adults being poort.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: Right, Well, that's exactly right, and we can get a nap.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: But and so so I said. And when I was
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: even working over at Robinhood, I was like, Okay, we're
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: going to focus on the issue of the child tax credit.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: And the big reason because I thought about over thirty
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: years of philanthropy, the Robin Hood is done remarkable work
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: that Robin Hood has done that an adjustment on the
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: child tax credit could literally sixfold every and we're talking
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: billions that robin Hood has done in its history. An
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: adjustment of a child tax credit, making it fully refundable,
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: paying it out monthly would actually have more of an
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: impact on child poverty by sixfold than what they've done
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: over thirty years. And so this is the argument that
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: I was pushing about why policy matters. I was speaking
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: with a former governor about this issue, and I was
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: trying to explain to him the details of the child
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: tax credit, why this thing was so important, and I
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: literally told me, I said, you should talk about it
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: in your state of the state. I was like, here's
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: a line you should use. And I got an advanced
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: copy of the state of the state address and I
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: realized there was nothing in there about the child tax credit.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: There was nothing in there about child poverty. So I'm pissed, right,
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: So I call up the head of policy at the organization.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: I ran and I'm just ranting, and then Finally, when
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: I breathed, he said to me, he said, listen, we've
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: worked for six months to try to get them to
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: include a line in the speech. Well what if you
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: could write the whole speech? And that's the point. The
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: reason we have these discrepancies is not just because these
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: are policies that will allow this to happen. The reason
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: that we had in my state of eight to one
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: racial wealth gap is not because one group is working
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: eight times harder. It's because of the Homestead Act, and
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: it's because of unfair appraisal, unfair appraisal values and historically
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: red line neighborhoods. And it's because an unfair usage of
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: the GI Bill, and it's because of racist procurement policies.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: So if we understand that policies help to create these dynamics,
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: it has to be policies that have to then unearth them.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: And so when I gave my first State of the
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: State address, you know, we spent probably a quartet thing
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: talking about child poverty and about how we were going
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: to make the most aggressive and bipartisan push in our
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: state's history to end child poverty. And that's exactly what
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: we've done. And so the big reason why I decided
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: to get into this is if you aren't talking about
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: policy on these issues, then you can do philanthropy all
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: you want. You can do all that. So you're blue
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: in the face. There is not enough philanthropy in the
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: world to upend bad policies, and so policymakers have got
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: to get in the game. And that's why I just
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: said that. Uh, I'm as qualified as any of them.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: You. Since writing the book the other Wes More being
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: a White House fellow, a Rhodes scholar, I think folks
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: have always asked you about your political ambitions. Being on
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: the short list as a VP contender, do you have
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: aspirations to at some point run for president.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I'm cut it out with.
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't buy it either out and so why
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: not like you, I.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: Mean, eight years from now, no sure, and listen, I'm
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: I'm I know, never mind me, it's some point.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, listen, I know.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: I'm happy to think you were gonna run for governor too.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: And that's and that's the point, right, So I so
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: I know, listen, I mean, I'm forty five. I mean,
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: I'm one of the youngest governors in the country, right,
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: and I love the work that we're doing in Maryland.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Maryland's just moving faster than everybody in the country if
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: you look at everything we are doing, from advancing economic opportunities,
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: to creating pathways for work, wages and wealth, to removing
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: the barriers that exist for people to go into a workforce,
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: the work we've done around criminal justice reform. I mean,
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: I'm really proud of the work that Maryland's doing.
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: I think, but asking you if you have aspirations at
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: some point to run for president isn't poop pooting your
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: work in Maryland. Saying if you're if you have the
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: approval rating you have right now, which is high, you've.
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: Garnered the most amount of support than.
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: Any other governor who's ever ran in your gubernatorial race,
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: why not to Lauren's question, now.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: Well, I think so. I think for me it's really twofold.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: One is my exclusive focus is on making sure to
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Kamala Harris is the next president. Noted states I can't
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: streuss enough how import it's to my state, to my
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: community that she is the person who becomes the next president.
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: In twenty twenty four.
• 28:06
  Speaker 9: But we're saying, at some point, if we if we
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: know that if she does not win, there won't be another.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Election to win, which is what she needs.
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: No right, I'm.
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: Saying if we know from the statements of the former
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: president that if he wins, there will not be another election.
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: That is a quote, so we know the importance of
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: her winning. We're not. I'm not saying that. I'm just
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: saying why not? Lauren said why not?
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, and I think I think for me
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: and I don't. I don't have an answer, and honestly,
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: it's because I just haven't.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Put enough thought into it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: So, for example, Elijah Cummings was a was like my
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: guy when a mentor mind congressman from from Baltimore, and
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: I remember.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: After he passed, there are people who came.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: Up to me and were like, listen, you know, what
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: do you think about running for elijah seat.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: He was a mentor of mind.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: And I didn't do it because it's not that I
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: don't love Elijah and it's not that I don't want
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: to make sure that his legacy is not honored. It
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: just wasn't speaking to me. But when I decided I
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: was running for governor, you couldn't have convinced me not
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: to run. When they're like this person's think about getting
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: in and this person's the former head of the DNC,
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: and this person, I said, good, I look forward to
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: see him in the battle. You know what I mean,
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: because I knew that's what I wanted to do, and
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: no one could have convinced me differently. So I'm very
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: at peace with saying if I'm not in it, I'm
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: not in it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm good with that.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: And I can tell you right now that's why when
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: I say my focus is really on making sure that
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: Kamala Harris who comes to next president United States, Like,
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: That, I believe you.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: But I'm gonna tell you something about eleven years ago,
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: maybe longer, John Sykes when he introduced me, he said,
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: he I want you to meet somebody. I need you
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: to connect with this brother named Wes Moore. He's going
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: to be the next Barack Obama.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: That's how you were introduced to me twelve years ago.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: So people clearly see that esque.
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: It's because it feels like you really care about the people.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: And I don't think it's good you're black either.
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's just I'm not trying to anybody.
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: I knew that was, but I think at that point,
• 30:08
  Speaker 9: only having one people say based on what they know,
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: Like we know Kamala Harris also isn't gonna be the
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: next Barack Obama.
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: She's gonna be the first Kamala Harris.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I think this is just like I don't
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: see that my calls right now, but four years ago.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Right now, I gotta.
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: I'm not thinking about it right now. So they don't
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: run this clip back. I would say, they're gonna bring it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Up and be like, well, you said, you know, And
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I mean what I say.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: It's like when when when I'm when I'm locked into something,
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: I'm locked in, and I'm locked in to be in
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: the governor of the state of Maryland, and I mean,
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: I am. I look at what we're doing right now.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: This really is gonna be Maryland's decade. This is gonna
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: be our time because it's the time we're just gonna
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: lead with love and honesty and and I'm really proud
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: of the results we've gone so far, and I think
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: the people of Maryland are very happy with it.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: One thing you've done that is great.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: You pardoned one hundred and seventy five thousand Mariulana, Maryland
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: convictions related to the possession of weed, including convictions for
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: mister Meta possession of weed in certain convictions for mister
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: Media possession of drug prawer familia.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: What led you to do that? Well, you know, it's funny.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: It was something that I've been talking about long before
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: I ever decided to run for office. I do not understand.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: There's a few things I just don't get. One is
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: how cannabis is in the same classification level as heroin.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: That just makes absolute no sense.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: And the other piece was, as we were having this
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: larger movement that was taking place around how people were
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: just completely not acknowledging history and how cannabis was just
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: consistently used as a cudgel, particularly in black communities.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: And so you know, cannabis.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: Was actually on the ballot in the state of Maryland
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: in fact, so I ended up getting, you know, more
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: individual votes that year than anybody else. The only thing
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: that beat me on the ballot that year was cannabis.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Cannabis one was seventy percent of the vote. So I'm like, yo,
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: who is cannabis now popular?
• 32:00
  Speaker 9: When I brought up pardons, and I do want to
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: ask you, this one isn't in your purview per se.
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: But there's a federal pardon that I think many of
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: us are still seeking, and that's for Marilyn Moseby. She
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: submitted a parton application that included attorneys like Barry Scheck
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: from the Innocents Project, Ben Crump, who's a legendary civil
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: rights attorney, Barbara Armwine, legendary voting rights activists who worked
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: hand in hand with Marylynd. Can you talk about the
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: importance of Joe Biden partnering her before his ten years up?
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and and I've said, I mean, this
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: is this one's personal because what was your friends?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I've noticed little girls and say it was little girls.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: And uh, in fact, I remember last time I was
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: on the show, I remember talking about the role that
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: she played in just calming our community where there's this
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: narrative that was taking place after everything that happened with
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Freddy Gray, that you know that there were protests and
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: then on the night of Freddie Gray's funeral, how it
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: became violent and you had this you have this unrest
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: that took place and and people talk about how and
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: then the National Guard was called in. People say, well,
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: it's good that the National Guard got called in because
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: that's what calmed everything down. That's actually not true, because
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: the truth is they are going to have the biggest
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: protests since that entire thing happened on that Saturday after
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: the National Guard got called in.
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Militarization does not produce calm. Hearing a community does. And
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: the reason that there was calm was because Marilyn Moseby
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: came out and actually said that we need to have accountability.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: And then she brushed arginal on the officers. So the
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: thing that I would say about it is this, and
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: again it is it is. It's both personal, So I
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: try to separate myself from what the personal is. UH.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: And I know that this is a uh, it's not
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a state decision.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: This is something that falls exclusively in the in the
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: hands of the other president of the United States.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I just keep on thinking about these kids. I keep
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: thinking about her uh, her.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: And Nick's daughters. I keep on thinking about the public
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: servants that they have been in.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: These are two people.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: Who have devoted their lives to be able to support
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: the people of Baltimore. Her as the former States Attorney,
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: him is now the city council president. And I just
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: hope as as all these decisions are being made that
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: compassion and grace is just not lost.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: So you feel Biden should give her a part.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: I can't tell the President of United States what to do.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: I just hope compassion and grace he has never lost
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: in these decision making process.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I do want to ask you about the state decision.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: How come we can't well, how come you can't pardon
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: all non violent marijuana offenses period.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Across the world.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Well, actually, so if you look at the pardon that
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: we did and so yeah, so going back, So what
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: ended up happening was we spent the past year doing
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: what many people believe to be the most equitable and
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: safe and successful rollout for recreational cannabis in the country.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: So now in the state of Maryland, we have a
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: new billion dollar industry for cannabis. Of the new licenses,
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy four new social equity licenses have
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: put together, and by the way, over one hundred of
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: them have been new black owners in the cannabis market.
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: So we've really set the standard on what that looks like.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: But my big thing was this, you cannot celebrate the
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: benefits of legalization if you do not address the consequences
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: of criminalization if you do not address the fact that
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: there are thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds, thousands of people
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: whose lives have now been immeasurably changed and altered because
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: of something that is no longer even illegal in our
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: communities anymore. And so the reason that we led you know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: I ended up partnering one hundred and seventy five thousand
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: cannabis com It's the largest mass part in the history
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: of this country. And where I know that we can't
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: be done either when we're thinking about this. In fact,
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: just this past week, you know, I just just excuse
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: the fees for people who you know, violational role and
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: drug testing, because again it's something that continues to be
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: used as a cudgel to keep people criminalized. And you
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: can't make every sentence a life sentence. And so the
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: reason that we've moved so aggressively on this issue, and
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: now we're going to continue working with the legislature because
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: some of the stuff is gubernatorial authority, like executive orders,
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: some of this stuff has to get pass through the legislature.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: So now we're working with our legislative partners to make
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: sure that we can really deal with this issue of
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: long term expungement is because it's both about fairness and
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: also it's about economics. I am focused on getting people
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: back into the workforce. And if you look at what
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: we've done within our state, that we have quadrupled the
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: amount of people in our trade and apprenticeship programs, that
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: we have created, the first time in this country, that
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: we now have a service year option for all of
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: our high school graduates, giving them a chance to have
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: a year of paid service to the State of Maryland.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: That we made historic investments in childcare, the largest singular
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: investments in childcare in our state's history. Because if you
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: really want to get people back into the workforce, particularly
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: young parents, particularly young particularly women, you must fund childcare.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: Because asking people to make a decision between is my
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: child going to be okay? Or am I going to
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: go to the work or are gonna go to work
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: is not a fair ask. And the big thing about
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: the pardons was it now allowed.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: People to get back into the workforce. One of the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: people I pardoned.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: That day was a guy named Shiloh who was standing
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: with me. Shiloh, the only thing on his record is
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: a misdemeanor cannabis conviction, and he now has had an
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: inability to find stable work since. I mean he literally
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: had a job. He's talking about a job that he
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: had that was a great job for him. He was
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: fired on the second day because he couldn't pass a
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: background check. This is crazy what we've done to communities.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: And so I look at this, what we've done around
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: criminal justice reform, what we've done around the pardons is
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: is not just about it's the socially right thing to do,
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: it's the economically smart thing to do. Because if you
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: look at where our staates right now. When I was
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: first inaugurated, Maryland was forty third in the coin in unemployment. Now,
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: going on thirteen straight months, Maryland has amongst the lowest
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: unemployment rates in the entire country. Our unemployment right now,
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: right now in Maryland is two point nine percent. If
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: you want to create a growing economy, you must create
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: an inclusive economy. And I want more people to have
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: the opportunity to get back into the work.
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: So I agree, But I agree, but will it'll be
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: bigger than just simple possession, Like is there a way
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: to do just non violent marijuana offensive?
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Absolutely?
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: And these are things that I and again part of
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: it's working with the legislature because part of these things
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: you have to actually change laws, and that requires the
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: legislature involved. But I don't think that just doing the
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: the while it was the largest in the country's history,
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: that was also an important first stept.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: But we're not.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Done because you have to create a system. And here's
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: the thing. Here's the thing that also I want to
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: be able to prove that we can do two things
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: at once, right, because when people we came on board,
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: people said, there's two challenges.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: That Maryland's facing.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: One, Maryland had this explode crime rate, homicide rates. Again,
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: like I mentioned before, Baltimore went eight straight years of
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: three hundred plus homicides.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So we have to address the violence.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: And we had to address the fact that Maryland incarcerated
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: more African American men between the ages of eighteen and
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: twenty five than any place in this country.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: By the way, Number two was Mississippi. Maryland was number one.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: And so I said, we've got to be able to
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: address these two things at the same time, that we
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: can yes, both address the issue of violence and also
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: not think that the answer is just locking up black boys.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: And so I think one thing we've been able to
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: show in our work is yes, we can be humane
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: about the way we deal with things like parens and
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: expungements and getting people back into a workforce and cutting
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: down on the recidivism rate. Yes, we can also make
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: sure that we are making have made historic investments in
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: local law enforcement and utilization of technology, and making sure
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: that you are getting violent offenders and repeat violent offenders
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: off of our streets, and so addressing these two things
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: at the same time, that argument of locking up more
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: black men is not going.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: To make you safer.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: And I think the thing that we're showing in the
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: state of Maryland is you can do both of those things,
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: to both those two things, addressed the incarceration rates and
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: make your community safer at the same time.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, you know, Governor Wes Moore, why
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: is it working in Maryland and not in a.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Lot of these other cities and states. So what would you.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Tell to some of these other mayors and governors who
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: are having the same problems you have when you first
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: came in And crime is high, and unemployment and people
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: can't find jobs, and people are dealing with immigrants and
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: migrants coming over, and people are dealing with you know,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: they can't afford their homes, can't afford food, can't afford gas.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: What do you tell those city officials?
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: I would say, always leave with data and don't let
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: the politics get away to stuff man, because I think
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: part of the problem is people get caught up in
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: these talking points and these policy issues about like what
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: does ex party think?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Or what is why party think?
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: Or this and that, And I'll say, we have but
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: a certain amount of time in these jobs, right I'm
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: you know, I know because I have a clock on
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: my desk about how much time I have left on
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: my first term. Don't waste a single one of those days.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: And so I think the reason that we've been able
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: to get the things done we've been able to get
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: done is because we leave with data.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: The reason that I was unapologetic when I talk about
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: things like how I want Maryland to be the state
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: that ends the racial wealth gap, and people said, well,
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: isn't that a binary choice? And I said no. But
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: the thing is is that what we have right now
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: is a binary system. The reason I want Maryland to
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: be a state that ends a racial wealth gap is
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: because I believe in growing the economy that the racial
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: wealth gap has cost this country sixteen trillion dollars in
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: GDP over the past two decades. That's not gross semester
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: product of a group.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I've heard you say that racism is expensive as well.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: It is terribly expensive. And so the reason that I'm
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: saying so be unapologetic.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: And say it.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Talk about the issues of racism and bigotry.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: Talk about how you're going to address things like a
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: broken and a racist procurement policy. The reason that we
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: have gone, you know, in our in our state, just
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: since I've been the governor, we have we have shifted
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: the way we look at procurement. Right now, we've allocated
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: over two and a half billion dollars towards mv s
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: and black.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Owned businesses and and and it's.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: Not because we're showing favorite sism, because it's that we
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: actually believe that's helping to grow the economy. And it
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: is when you're giving more people opportunities, when you stop
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: giving away free waiver processes. And so the thing I
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: would just ask people is lead with data and don't
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: be afraid to be bold, like go after big problems,
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: because if that's not what you're doing, then why bother
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: why are you even sitting in the seat?
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: He has to go in the second side.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: I got, I got to I'm good, I got. I
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: got two that I really really want to ask. One
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: is Maryland voters just I saw them approve of your
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: performance in a recent poll, but they were split on
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: the economy. And it bugs me out because why why
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: is there a perception that Democrats are not good in
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: regards to the economy when the US economy performs better
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: under Democratic president I don't.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: I don't thin we talk about it the right way, man,
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: We really don't, and we excuse it, you know, I
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: don't understand when we're having these conversations. So, for example,
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: we've made historic investments in childcare in our state, right,
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: we made historic investments in apprenticeship and trade programs. We
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: made a historic investments in getting people back into the workforce.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: We've raised the minimum wage because I just believe deeply
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: that gone should be the days when you have people
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: who are working jobs and in some cases multiple jobs,
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: and still living at or below a poverty line. That
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: we just passed the most aggressive housing package of any
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: Maryland governor in recent history, and focusing on things like
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: turning renters into homeowners, focusing on things like unfair appraisal
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: values and historically red lined neighborhoods, being able to create
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: capital and liquidity for first time home buyers, and particularly
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: first time home buyers oftentimes or home buyers of color
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: inside of communities. And what has happened is this unemployment
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: rate has now dropped to historically low levels. We're now
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: watching economic growth and we're watching green shoots of new
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: industries that people are actually participating in. And you know
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: what I'm doing, I'm talking about it. I'm talking about
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: the fact that these policies matter, that us being able
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: to create pathways to work and wages and wealth is
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: actually the truest destination. And what we're talking about what
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: it means to have good policy. You've got to actually
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: talk about it and not and and and let the
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: data then speak for itself. But if if you're not
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: talking about it and you let other people define your narrative,
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: then yeah, of course things are horrible and it's all
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: the Democrats fault. But we're not gonna let that happen.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: My last question, I saw you on Face the Nation
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: and I loved what you said. You said that Democrats
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: have to earn the blackmail vote. What does earning that
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: vote look like? It means going out and actually going
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: to seek and speak to it. You know, you're not
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: going to win this race by great commercials.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: And they're effective though if they're great, if they're great,
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: but I mean, but that's but eventually people are just
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: going to hear this stuff so much as gonna get
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: drowned down. And it's like I will hear a commercial
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: that says one thing and then literally the next commercial
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: says something that's the absolute opposite.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: And so if I'm not a person who's.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: Really into this, what am I supposed to take away
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: from that?
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: That's not how you're going to win this race, you know.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: And I think about it for our race where you know, I,
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: you know, we did very very well with young.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Voters and black voters and all kind of stuff when
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I ran for governor. But it was because I was black.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: And it wasn't because I was you know, now one
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: of the youngest governments in the country.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: It's because we went earned it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: We actually went to communities and we talked about issues,
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: and we talked about issues that matter, and we talked
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: about in a real way we talked about why you know,
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: when I'm speaking about wealth and wealth creation that I'm
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: not What I'm talking about is do you have the
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: ability to own more than you owe? Do you have
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: the ability to pass something off to your children besides
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  Speaker 5: debt that it's the basic asset that you can have
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: something in your life that can give your family a
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: little bit of wiggle room. And you know, when we
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: talk about housing, I talk about the fact that you know,
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: I had to y'all know, I had some issues coming up,
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: and my mother was trying to send me to this
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: military school. You know, ever since I was like eight,
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: and every year she threatened me, and every year I
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: couldn't go. And it wasn't because she's a woman who
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: makes false threats, because she does not make false threats.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: She couldn't afford it. And then finally, when I was
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: eleven years old, sorry after eleven, and then twelve, and
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: then when I was thirteen, fourteen years old, my mother
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: was finally like, I can't do this, and I'm gonna send.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: You to this military school. But do you know how
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: she was able to do it.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: She started asking people inside of her church if they
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: could help, and people gave it a little bit where
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: they could help whatever like that, but she was still
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: thousands of dollars short. My grandparents, my grandfather was the
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: first one in my family in my mom's side of
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: the family, born in this country, born in South Carolina,
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: and the klu Klux Klan ran them out, moved back
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: to Jamaica, and much of my family said we will
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: never come back to this country, which my family is not.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: Much of him in still in Jamaica.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: That's why you said ting earlier. Yes, yes, I thought
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: he was drinking and dry.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: But but he did come back. Uh.
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: And as he always said, you know, I say, you know,
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: he had a deep Jamaican accent his entire life. And
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: I think he's maybe the most patriotic American I've ever met.
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: He loves this country, loved this country. My grandmother born
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: in Cuba, raised in Jamaica, immigrated to this country. And
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: when they came to this country, he was a minister,
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: she was a school teacher, and they bought a little
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: small home in the Bronx because that was their way
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: of actually.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Owning a piece of this country.
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: And when my mother needed help, and my mother needed
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: a little extra money, they ended up taking money out
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: of their home to then help to pay for that
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: first year of school, which ended up changing the trajectory
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: of my life.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I bring that up for this reason. We're just asking.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: People to to give people a little bit of breathing room.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: We're just asking that we can just give people a
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: little bit of hope, and it's a little something hold
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: on to and be proud of. And so I think
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: as we are talking about what does it mean to
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: go earn the vote, You're not going to earn the
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: vote by slogans. You're not going to earn the vote
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: by commercials. You're gonna go earn the vote by looking
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: people in the eye and saying not just why these
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: policies are going to be better and beneficial for you.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: In your life, but it's.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: Gonna be really good to have a leader who actually
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: sees you. It's gonna be really good to have a
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: leader who actually believes in you, who's willing to fight
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: for you, who when the doors are closed and the
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: decisions are being made, that you can say, you know
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: what she's thinking about me and my family when those
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: doors are closed, and the decisions that she makes are
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: going to be in the best censurest of not only now,
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: but the best interests of the future.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: And so I just think right now we got a moment.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we got a whole lot of people who came
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: before us who are looking at us and asking us,
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: what are you going to do? Are you gonna take
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: this moment seriously or not? And I think we got
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: a whole lot of people who are gonna come after us,
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: who are looking at us and saying, exhaust yourself because
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: my future should matter to you that much. And that's
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: why I think that we're gonna do what we gotta do,
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: because that's the assignment.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Hm.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Governor Wes Moore for President for twenty thirty two. Ladies,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: Governor Wes Moore, Ladies and gentlemen, we.
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  Speaker 4: Appreciate you for joining us.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: And you know, anytime you're in town, pull up on us.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: You know, we don't like the zoom stuff, so you
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: got to pull up.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: On this saying you're busy.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: So you know, y'all should come. Y'all should come down
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: to Annapolis. You come down to Maryland.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: We love it there. Are you related to Jess because
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Jess last name?
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: But no, no I'm not.
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: But she's she's she's my cousin in my head. She's
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: my crazy I tell you what. Baltimore, we're prodigested.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're prodigest.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: She'll be back, so yeah, yeah, she roughs us, she
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: rops well.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: It's Governor Wes Moore. It's the Breakfast Club, the Morning.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.