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The Animal's Voice - What Happened to Mila Before She Was Adopted? With Danny, Sara & Mila · The Animals Voice

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the first image, she sends me right now, is not separation anxiety, but very close to separation anxiety.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Being afraid of losing you and always anticipating in panthing like... What about me?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, that sounds completely spot on, I would say from...
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[SPEAKER_03]: But first time that I got her, so I rescued her back in Denver, and was dating Sara at the time, but ever since then, I mean, Mela has been.
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[SPEAKER_03]: hyper-attached.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would say even more so hyper-aware of my physical location.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At all points in time, she is incredibly intuitive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So even before I would start packing, she could sense that I would be leaking town or doing anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So she is the dog that is hyper-hyper-aware of where I've been or have gone and now both Sarah and I.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's kind of like Velcro to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it makes sense with that close to separation, air-coated anxiety, even though it's not separation, separation, anxiety, but it's very similar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, even that painting that you demonstrated is spot on to the way that she will physically demonstrate some of that extra.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mila was adopted many years ago, but some questions have never disappeared.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why does she react the way she does?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Could something from her past still be shaping her life today?
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[SPEAKER_00]: In this episode, she reveals the experiences she carried long before as you found her for ever home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Be comfort us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They protect us, they change us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what if they could also speak to us?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Animal's Voice, hosted by Ditte Young, internationally renowned animal communicator, telepath, licensed therapist, intuitive coach, and best-selling author.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Each week, you'll hear extraordinary stories of connection, healing, love, loss, and transformations through the eyes of the animals who share our lives, stories that challenge what we think we know, stories that open our hearts, stories that remind us we may never have been as separate as we believed, because every animal has a voice, and every voice
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[SPEAKER_00]: So hello, and welcome to you in this today's show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you give us a little introduction about who you are?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm Sara.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm Danny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we live in Nashville, Tennessee.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have two Husky Rescue puppies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mila is 11 and Debbie is three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and what are your curious to hear more about?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are very curious about our oldest dog Mila, who is 11, we adopted her 10 years ago, and so we think that she was without us for about a year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're very curious about what that year looks like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She is anxious at times and seems to have some weird personisms, and so we really love to better understand her, understand
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where do these come from and what we can do to support her?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And have you tried telepathy or animal communication before?
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's the first time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be great, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you'll sit side and have fun with it, okay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just to talk you through it and the listeners through it, I will do my best to become the voice of Mila.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be my finest job, but of course, she can't speak, but she's in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I'm excited about meeting her, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, are you ready?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I do is I will look her into her eyes because that's the way into the soul and then I'm just going to wait for her to connect with me so just give me three seconds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, this is very interesting because she seems a bit rigid in her personality to begin with and she waits a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if this is her being precocious or just, I don't give up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: about who you are, but I'm not gonna, you know, stand on my feet for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the very first thing that happens and I'm laughing to you because this is a pretty odd or is a rare thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do hope that it tracks and it makes sense to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you've seen this behavior before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Sassy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very stubborn.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We stay away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't hear you and I don't want to do anything about it until I am ready to do something about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is Mila.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am telling her, well, I am did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm an animal communicator.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in Copenhagen, Denmark.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're far away from me yet still we can communicate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you curious about this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, she says, but she says, but are you curious of me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm telling her, yes, I'm letting her know that I'm sitting here with her two-legged family members and you have some questions for her if that would be okay with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you want me to tell you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says, and I am asking her as the telepaths, can you let me know what you think and feel about who you are?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the personality profiles I'm looking for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sending her six profiles, and I'm asking her which one of these profiles do you recognize yourself with or in just a second?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do recognize myself in the playful one, the sensitive one, the queen, and it's not a shock and trauma.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a traumatized dog because I meet many, many dogs every single day, so she's not a scared, anxious dog, even though I heard you are right Sara, you said she has some
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[SPEAKER_00]: angst.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'll dive more into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So don't you worry about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's do the playful one first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking her how are you playful?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she says I would like them to give me tasks and chores because I'm intelligent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a dog who would just
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[SPEAKER_00]: find it beneficial for me or enough just to walk around the block.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have way more energy than that when I am not rigid or reluctant with sharing my energy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking her how can they do that and she says it could be go fetch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, take stuff, pick it up, come back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be a sock, it could be a shoe, it could be anything to give her a task she needs to solve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she says, but what do I gain from it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I motivated by it, but I need to gain something from it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm asking her, what would be the best price?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she says recognition, acknowledgment, definitely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She talks about something raw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you are feeding her with raw food or raw meat or what this is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But she talks about snack and food products right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Be here, liver treats.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is dehydrated liver that we give her as a treat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So perhaps that's what it's in reference to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that raw?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, I don't think so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure if it's raw.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's dehydrated.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So perhaps at least adjacent to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, okay, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it's a different dog than in the first meeting with her because when I'm in her playful personality, she's not, her quote, rigidness .
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[SPEAKER_00]: holding anything back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's just a happy girl, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she has that personality as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she wants us to understand that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she sees it as a chore or a task, which means the more tasks we give her the more intellectually or cognitively we stimulate her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a good thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're nodding your head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, yeah, got you or
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, you know, I would say seldom we play fetch because she doesn't want to play fetch around her sister, but when she's isolated and we do play fetch with her she really lights up and she loves it and she has that playfulness that you describe absolutely comes out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for verifying that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and then you said sensitive Mila how are you sensitive and I'm asking her are you mentally sensitive physically sensitive or how do you experience life?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she says I'm primarily mentally sensitive and I am asking her how do you experience the world through your eyes just a second?
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so this is underneath everything and I need to understand it because I think she's showing this to me backwards and when I'm tell the path, it is so compartmentalized.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is literally one piece at a time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is only one little piece in a bigger puzzle, but the first image she sends me right now is
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not separation anxiety, but very close to separation anxiety, being afraid of losing you and always anticipating in panthing like... What about me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, talk to me here, Danny.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, that sounds completely spot on, I would say, from...
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[SPEAKER_03]: But first time that I got her, so I rescued her back in Denver, and was dating Sara at the time, but ever since that I mean, Mila has been.
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[SPEAKER_03]: hyper-attached.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would say even more so hyper-aware of my physical location at all points in time, she is incredibly intuitive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So even before I would start packing, she could sense that I would be leaking town or doing anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So she is the dog that is hyper-hyper-aware of where I've been or who don't know both Sarah and I. Yeah, she's kind of like Velcro to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it makes sense with that close to separation, air quote, anxiety, even though it's not separation, separation, anxiety, but it's very similar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Even that panthing that you demonstrated is spying on to the way that she will physically demonstrate some of that angst, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is how she experienced being sensitive and I'm asking her, how can we better help you with that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: a certain tea of not losing my family members and not losing myself because when I feel that I lose myself or I don't, with underneath that is I'm not trusting in my own abilities or trusting myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I shut off the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the defense mechanism she started out by showing me what I called air quote rigid lacy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am anticipating because I don't know if it has my interest because I'm unaware of what I'm going to do in this situation and with other words, she needs extremely clear signals, extremely clear commands to make her motivated to do anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's very accurate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're laughing to Daniel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: incredibly strong will that oftentimes she's been described as more cat-like, where it is on a percent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I laugh only because it's so true, only recently we had a dog, trainer come in, we told him that something nothing and within three minutes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, I think the key to understanding Mila is understanding that she is in fact, Sara and I love each other, we're like, yes, finally.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's difficult also because she's only so food-motivated.
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[SPEAKER_03]: very clear instruction but also finding her at a right time it seems as well or is it willing to be motivated or in this and whatever is going up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right I'm asking her anything else you need help with with being sensitive and she says no you got it all right great and they got it too She says okay
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[SPEAKER_00]: My slow, slow parents, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They get to you, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you said, queen, Mila, what do you mean by queen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because usually when I created the queen as the animal communicator, I created a leader of a pack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a leader of a pack is very embraceful towards others.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm curious to hear you out first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about being a queen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she says,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get very emotional now, even though it's also a funny story, but she says,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have the right to be here, and this is my existence to be here, the right to exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a right to be here when I'm important, and what I do to become important is to have a full overview of my family members, especially you, Daniel, of course, but also you Sara, a huge love both of you, and I'll dive more into it later, but she says, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel important when I have an overview of everybody all the time and it's very ambivalent and it's a huge conflict of mine because on one hand I like to protect them and on the other hand I'm afraid if I can't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So in those through
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's three seconds when I have this inner conflict, I do nothing, because it's better to do nothing than do the wrong thing, which means, with other words, afraid of stepping aside or stepping in the wrong track or making a mistake when it comes to you, and I'm asking her, I don't think that your use at parents, me, less, oh, I'm gonna talk to you about parents, our parenthood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that,
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[SPEAKER_00]: parents or your parents would yell at you or be wrong you in any way, you know, if you misunderstood anything, I don't feel that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mila, I ask her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says, but then they better understand my past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now comes the interesting, everything is interesting, hopefully.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what you actually wanted to hear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking her, what would you like to share with us from your past?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is like opening a book,
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I get the opportunity as the telepath to look into the keyhole and see this book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One chapter at a time or one page at a time, so it's going to be snippets from her past just a second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, it is not from birth cradle to the grave, but the first image she sends me is what made a huge impact on her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She shows me that she's in a chain or on a leash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is rainy and she's outside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like a backyard and it looks like people have dumped old tires or stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be behind a person that repairs cars or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what this is, a garage or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she shows me that there's another dog on the other side of a wooden fence and the
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[SPEAKER_00]: a black dobermann or a huge dog.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be a great day or a very big labrador or a dobermann, if you understand this, and it's black, and she says, that's why I hate dogs that look like this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, because later in her life, she had a conflict with a dog just like what you described.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, this was much later on at this point I had had her for.
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[SPEAKER_03]: four or five years and had moved back to Los Angeles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And my grandfather had just rescued.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was a German Shepherd Belgian mountain wall mix, but it had a black face and a chest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this dog was highly on socialize, and at one point we were trying to help this other dog out and Mila was there at one point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She slipped her lead and went after Mila.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And for me, that was another point in time,
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[SPEAKER_03]: be a big fork in the road from Mila where up until that point she was okay with other dogs and seemed to love them up with tolerate them and even play with strange dogs and after that point time it was a massive shift and just her ability and or I should say will
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[SPEAKER_03]: active of their dogs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that was, I'll use the word traumatic because at least for me it was and I feel like it was for her as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So she's had at least in my experience in addition to what you're saying two negative experiences with a dog that looks that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it says a lot about what a great dog and what a good girl, she's been until that second trauma because when I ask her, are am I mistakening those two situations and she says no, you're not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It happened twice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking her is there anything else you would like to tell us and she says this is also the reason why I don't always want to go outside when it's rainy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not that I'm afraid of water or anything but from time to time I look outside and I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the weather where you are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen the pattern in this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, she will not go outside when it rains, especially at night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes we have to make her because she hasn't gone potty in a few hours and we're going to bed and she really does not like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: going out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's very brief when she does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If she does, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, she'll even, you know, she'll, she'll sense when the weather is coming and it will be a complete change of her demeanor.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She gets a bit nervous, correct?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sara's point, even when.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There have been times, there's like, okay, no, it's been raining all day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have to go to the bathroom and so we'll take her off, take her outside on her leash, and she will refuse to move it, even tried.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's incredibly smart.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She'll try to purposely slip her leash or her harness from whatever it is and just go back home.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So she is not, not messing around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it bank sends, and this is both of these situations is connected to the backyard, on a leash, behind that automobile, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who this guy is, but this is a place where she used to live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I'm asking her, do you have any other traumatic experiences in your life before you came to the family or your parents, as you called them just a second?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, she sends me an image of what looks to me from Europe like a farm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like they had rabbits, cats, they had other animals there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she says, to begin with, we were one big, happy family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They separated the different species in the farm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they were clever enough, but she says, but I felt all these animals around me all the time, and it had a huge interest in my world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, because I see them as my friends, I don't want to chase them and eat them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They are literally my friends, so she also has
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[SPEAKER_00]: this personality of if I ever were to put a rabbit in front of her, she would just be so gentle, so sensitive, and we might fear because we know how she would react to the black head of dog.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She could eat it in an instant and snap the neck, but she says, I wouldn't do that with my friends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That rings quite true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, in the last place there and I live, we were on the second floor of an apartment building in down below our close friend had a cat named Sue's.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and Mila was always so incredibly curious about Zeus.
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[SPEAKER_03]: To her, she would pull the leash to try to get closer to him, but you're exactly right, not in an aggressive fashion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think just like really wanting to be close to him, it really, you know, same history with where we live now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just up until that of year ago, they had two outdoor cats.
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[SPEAKER_03]: One name read just the other pickles, and she was,
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[SPEAKER_03]: quite curious about them as well and unlike other dogs, you're exactly right, did not seem as though it wasn't an aggressive fashion to the point, even that Sara and I at times of joked where maybe instead of a dog, she needed a cat brother or sister.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking her, so that wasn't traumatic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So why did you show me this image?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she says, because as my dad said, I want a friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have been friends with all these animals all the time from the very beginning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We weren't a big litter when I were born.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says, she shows me a litter of four, five, six, six other pups.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's one out of the six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and then my separation anxiety began because I never understood why are you taking away my brothers and sisters and I stayed at the farm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says, all right, and I am telling her, well, not by yourself, you have the rabbits and the cats and, you know, your friends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So how can we better help you because we can't go back in time?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she says that you can help me in this regard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am just telling you my story for you, all of you, to better understand what a sensitive, sweet, loyal girl I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And oftentimes people misunderstand me when I'm reactive, because I am not like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not aggressive at all, but I react.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I have had a reaction, I'm sorry, but it's because she says,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boy, was that me?
23:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it was me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it literally wasn't my fault.
23:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's difficult to to be really upset with her because I feel that part as like any other little toddler So-pure loving like a little girl that spilled the milk on the floor and said, it wasn't me that did that
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's definitely trash.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's very sweet and when she does get kind of feisty or reactive it does seem like she doesn't really mean it's almost impulsive like she's doing it impulsively and then we're treats back and it's like oh I didn't really mean that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she'll get quite loud, but it's never aggressive really.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, aside from a couple scuffles she's had with her sister Deborah over food being left out, aside from that when her
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[SPEAKER_03]: reactivity is just simply, you know, getting really loud and volume and it just really seems like even she's a bit out of control because she's somewhat inconsolable so that would check out to me and so far as even her assessing it is not really herself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything else you'd like to share with us just a second?
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
24:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if this is my imagination, um, because it seems so similar to what I have experienced with another dog.
24:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So just please forgive me if this is a projection.
24:45
[SPEAKER_00]: She sent me an image of some Mexican dudes who speak Mexican or, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Spanish language right now, and she has a reaction to that right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels very familiar in her world, and it's not that she's really, really afraid of them, but she's very respectful, and she waits like, whew, what are they going to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's cautious when she hears the Spanish spoken language now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's so accurate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have no idea how accurate it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, well so we when we used to live in LA the gardeners would come and they were all Hispanic and she would just relentlessly bark at them the entire time that they were there like a different tone bark and she was very timid and fearful of them and so we had always wondered if she had come from a family of that sorts or if somebody you know had abused her who were had similar
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the way they looked in the way they spoke.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And in fact, Danny's grandpa is Italian, and his very dark teacher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he could be mistaken for Hispanic, and she is terrified of him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that definitely tracks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I'm asking her, Mila, what happened with the Spanish Dudes?
26:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, she shows me an image of being on a leash and somewhat restrained.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't have a freedom to move around.
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And she shows me all this men coming from side to side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what I think is happening here is they had absolutely nothing to do with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they were just on the other side of a fence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were working.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she says, when people are moving,
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[SPEAKER_00]: and moving, it irritates me because can't they just sit down so that they become predictable.
26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have her a bit under suspicion of being reactive when people are getting up from a chair too fast or they're moving too fast and cool.
26:57
[SPEAKER_00]: This reminds me of back then when I was, you know, in lockdown she feels like local claustrophobic locked down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen this reaction?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I need daily.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think what I have suspected is that Mila I is quite easy to over-stimulate and so whether it be even just her sister getting up on the ground and moving or really anyone else she really likes it when she likes quiet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyone and everyone around her is calmed, settled.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do not continue around maybe even more ideally just a completely silent.
27:35
[SPEAKER_03]: So that completely rings true with I think what we experience pretty often with her.
27:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, and I'll just dive into the queen because she mentioned being a queen as well.
27:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that when we have a sensitive personality, we have a traumatized personality.
27:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And we have a queen who would prefer to have a life mission or being worthy enough.
27:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And within overview of the family, we have the separation or
28:03
[SPEAKER_00]: air-quote anxiety, we have some behavioral things we might be looking into here, which we do not have the time to do so today in this show, but I do hope you set a trainer or behavioral therapist or help me you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You might be able to pass on some of these messages if you find that appropriate to share with the trainer so that we can do the combination that
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so I'm asking her what would work best for you in your best interest, Mila, just a second.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the animal's voice with Ditte Young.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says that they change, not me, but you can change.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can do the job and that's why I love and I'm asking her how would you like them to change?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she says, when you know this, when you know this about me, why do you keep repeating your behavior?
29:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't you just help me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't you communicate?
29:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, my father-in-law, my father-in-law, father is coming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm moving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm taking Debbie away from you in another room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Debbie's coming into the living room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, just communicated because I understand that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's good to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't like surprises and my reaction is when I'm surprised.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's absolutely correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you better change.
29:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So I am moving on now to the relationship with you and the sister Debbie, the relationship in the family here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, me along.
29:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's do the easy one first, she says, it's my sister.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says, I'm so sorry to Debbie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very unfiltered, very honest when I do this.
30:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And here it comes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that okay with you?
30:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
30:09
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
30:10
[SPEAKER_00]: She says, she pisses me off because she's sensitive, princess, she's an attention-seeker all the time, Debbie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She keeps asking the same, I'm sorry, my language.
30:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, freaking questions all the time, like she's unintelligent.
30:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And she keeps asking for the same tasks over and over and over again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is annoying.
30:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And she says, if you, if you could just be inspired, my sister a little bit by who I am, she would be too noble, too elegant, too majestical, to keep asking the same question.
30:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And when I look at her, I'm sending her the thoughts to lapathically like, do you ever shut up?
30:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And that keeps ignoring me and keeps seeking my parents.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it feels like she doesn't have any respect when it comes to me.
31:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd better put her under respect and tell her who's in charge, she says.
31:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Mila makes it very clear to her that she is the leader of the house, and Mila is very intelligent.
31:21
[SPEAKER_02]: She is smart, but I don't think her, she is nearly as smart as Mila is, and so I'm not surprised to hear that Mila picks up on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and an attention-seeker too, like, oh yeah, see me, see me, see me, see me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's not always attention-seeking, but Mila gets very frustrated if she would come up right now and would pause any.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mila would probably bark and get very frustrated by that, so she does not like when
31:50
[SPEAKER_02]: She asked for attention.
31:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking Mila if this is true, if it's only when it comes to you, Danny and not Sara or both of you and she says primarily my dad, of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry Sara, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know my place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're a third coming in third right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking Mila then can you communicate to us?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have any messages to your dad?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you have the opportunity now.
32:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I literally feel like bursting into tears, because she says, I cannot...
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[SPEAKER_00]: thank my father enough for protecting me, and by that, it's not only adopting me, it is literally protecting me.
32:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You were a guardian angel when you took me back then, because you kept telling me, it's going to be okay.
32:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She keeps sending me the same sentence in my head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As if you have told her, it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can stay with me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be okay.
32:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you remember if you told her that, Danny?
32:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I still tell her that all the time.
32:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, when I got her for the first four days, she was terrified of everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The look frames, like, wouldn't walk through it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was living in an apartment at the time, and my bedroom was carpeted and she wouldn't leave that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so basically, for four days, I just laid with her on the ground.
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[SPEAKER_03]: telling her that it was going to be okay and because she's had, I describe them as isoms, meal it isoms, but a very peculiar personality which not until this point I've assessed as just being her being quite fearful and scared and so yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At times maybe overly so I was maybe self-critical and I'm trying to come maybe to a point of
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was one of the dogs that had been in the pound the longest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that was the literally the reason that I got, or was I want a bit of a bleeding heart.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't want her in there any longer.
33:56
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I got her out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so since then, it's been a major fault, my mission to just make her feel as comfortable and safe at all points in time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that makes sense also when I look back in this conversation about the right to exist You know, and try to take on a queen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not Makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so thank you for Being my guardian angel and telling me it's gonna be okay.
34:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking her is there anything he can do better for you or is he just the perfect you mentioned helicopter dad?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, oh, he's perfect.
34:41
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, great.
34:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking her what is perfect about your dad that you have all those clear signals and you are calling me in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like they're
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[SPEAKER_00]: good, you know, like any police officer would do are when you do training with bigger dogs, its commands, commands, commands, and not giving her the opportunity of going through the outer world because it's too big and it's too dangerous so stay in our little perimeter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: stay, stay, stay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And slowly, once eventually, or eventually, we can make the world wider, but always call me back, stay, stay.
35:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says, it made me feel comfortable, and it works.
35:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Great, and it certainly rings through it.
35:38
[SPEAKER_03]: It seems like she is most comfortable when she's in a relatively small orbit.
35:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
35:45
[SPEAKER_03]: At times I felt guilty of that frankly, because I felt as though I was coddling her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Coddling, but but made her confidence dependence on me being within a certain distance of her.
35:58
[SPEAKER_03]: So I felt guilty about that at times where I didn't instill enough confidence
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[SPEAKER_03]: I felt responsible for some of her fear or angst in that, you know, because I behaved in this or treated her in this fashion for so long, but I had hindered her in some way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you did not, Danny, at all, because I hope this is a validation for you too, you know, listening to her thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you had created the circle bigger or wider before she's ready for that,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be re-triggering a trauma because she is not believing in the world and she doesn't even believe in herself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that would be extremely difficult for her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
36:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for sharing that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's something I've been guilty of for some time actually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm telling her
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have Sara.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love you.
36:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that you are sensitive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that you love animals as much as you do.
37:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you are a huge animal lover, but it literally feels like any animal you should be in a farm, you know, having animals all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be completely you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because me, like, keep sending me the huge heart, and by that, it's not only a matter, only of I love you, but I love your love for us animals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It almost feels like we can't do anything bad in your world, because you only radiate with pure love, and that I love.
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[SPEAKER_02]: probably more than anything in this world, so I'm glad that she can tell that.
37:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Mila's comment on that is she should love me more, you know?
37:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Than my sister.
37:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's her just telling you she wants me to let her sleep on the bat every night, so.
38:02
[SPEAKER_00]: She says, I enjoy my life when I have structure.
38:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And yet, I would like to go on an adventure once in a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if it's a possibility to go trekking somewhere or go to the water or go to a forest once in a while, that is the best in my life as long as you're all together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to be together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't have to be every day, but just once a week, if that's a possibility, that would make her feel like really happy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That really rings true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_03]: you know Sara and I adopted her we were living in Denver at the time we were up in the mountains all the time as she's so thrived in that environment and that really fortunate in that once a year um we both were promote we were able to go out to the west coast and spend a lot of time out there and just trumped around on the beaches and stuff and that really seems to be when she's she certainly loves it but then just overall she seems most happy and and
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[SPEAKER_03]: comfortable in that piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
39:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
39:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, you, you, you, you haven't asked me about doing this, but would it be okay with you if I ask her if she has any health concerns or anything you would like to share with you?
39:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Health, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and just, you know, I'm not the veterinarian, of course.
39:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So I will give you some inputs on whatever makes an impact in the now.
39:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't predict the future here.
39:38
[SPEAKER_00]: But the reason why I want to mention it is because she keeps sending me, um,
39:44
[SPEAKER_00]: her left side of her teeth and jaw right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's been doing that for some minutes now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know what this is to be honest, but I feel she transfers a tension on my left side of my jaw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I have something stuck in my mouth or between my teeth right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have no idea what this is, but I would better just share it with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I better be safe and sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you,
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[SPEAKER_02]: considered she might have dental problems, or she had dental surgery a year to go and had to have a lot of teeth removed and then she had it again if recently a few months ago just a cleaning and everything looked okay but that's good to know because I should probably look and just check to make sure that there's nothing in there.
40:37
[SPEAKER_00]: but it's a good thing that you are aware that we have a dental problem in general with her.
40:42
[SPEAKER_03]: That's absolutely good.
40:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Something that we've been having to address in this part, y'all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
40:49
[SPEAKER_03]: That's really good.
40:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
40:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, great.
40:51
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
40:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I am telling her.
40:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So they already know this.
40:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And she says,
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they don't know that I have the problem now, all right?
41:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm telling Mila, but I just share that with them, okay?
41:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, thank you.
41:08
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the animal's voice with Ditte Young.
41:12
[SPEAKER_00]: She says something about feeling extremely heavy.
41:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not talking about obesity or weight in general.
41:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about energetically, if emotion of,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I have a brick in my stomach right now.
41:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking her, what is that?
41:30
[SPEAKER_00]: The organ, the intestinal system, the food products, what is this just a second?
41:36
[SPEAKER_00]: When you are starved at a very young age,
41:42
[SPEAKER_00]: When you are starved at a very young age, something happens with your insides.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't have access to food or enough food.
41:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And I lost my appetite because I was used to having a lot of food in my stomach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't have a huge appetite.
42:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But what I am interested in is to explore what you are eating,
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it gives me a lot of stimulants to my track sense in general.
42:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And don't worry about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's because I had such a rough start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have been introduced to so many different food products in my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it could appear as if I am picky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's because I am overloaded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: With bad experiences throughout my life, and I can't break it down, I can't handle it, I can't take it in.
42:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So what I do prefer is the smallest amount of food once, one little bit, at a time, and I'm asking her, would you rather work for it, should we throw snacks in the backyard, and she says,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I'm more curious of using my track sounds rather than eating eating, the snacks.
43:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's more like a sport than it is an eating situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does this make sense to you at all?
43:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, she is not a good eater.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't have much of an appetite and even despite all of my interventions to make her food delicious.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She sometimes will only eat a cup and just leave the rest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, it's, of course, Sara tries so many different avenues to try and make the food as enjoyable for her to pop, as possible, and it's, like, whack on Wolfram play because be able to be able to seem keen on something for a bit, and then it will change in regard that she just, so when we, when I first got her, she was probably 10 to 15 pounds underweight, and she's not a big dog, and so, you know, that was significant, so clearly there seemed to be
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[SPEAKER_03]: for her, you know, prior to arriving down to then since then, like quite literally since day one, it's been, you know, I will leave food out for her and she may or may not choose to eat or not and you know, here we are a decade later in the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you what, I'll share with you here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you considered that she enjoys food with bones, like a complete fish with bones?
44:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen that pattern?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because she keeps sending me an image of, if I can break a bone or if it's crunchy, then it has my interest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Definitely try that.
44:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how healthy that would be, you know, considering teeth problems and bone fractures in a stomach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure, you know, what the vet might say about this or what would be safe enough for her to eat.
45:00
[SPEAKER_00]: But I find it more interesting when I feel Mila right now.
45:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're saying that really rings true for me.
45:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Is there a seat there?
45:07
[SPEAKER_03]: It seems to have to be a
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[SPEAKER_03]: sort of level of interest for her two ones who eat so that is something we can absolutely explore further.
45:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And things we might think, oh, she's not going to eat that like an entire fish with an eyeball, you know, and the bones in it, try it.
45:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, try it out and see how it goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise it might be a filet or anchovies or something with more digestible bones in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And try and see if she'll take it.
45:43
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
45:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And the problem is that she her physicalities are
45:49
[SPEAKER_00]: not difficult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's complex because she's not the picky eater, but she takes whatever she needs.
45:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Which means if I need omega, I'm going to go with the fish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I need the fibers, I'm going to take the carrot, the raw carrot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we don't have any patterns in this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's exactly right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think to my point earlier, it's like, Sara will try these different things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it will work for either one, so it'll be very, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It will work for two or three more times.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then, you know, we're trying to back to the drawing board and reconsider what might work the next time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that her system is actually intelligent and we might be inspired by the animals because if I had passed out every day, my body would have difficulties absorbing the carbs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as opposed to having meat all day, our vegetables all day, my body would lack other vitamins or minerals after a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it actually makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What I've been stunned, because here we are talking about what seemingly has been 10 years of being in a massive calorie deficit for her and yet she is helping her age just so vibrant, still running around.
47:03
[SPEAKER_03]: She's a bit more tired in between than she wasn't she was younger but just really in an astounding state of health for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she is, and I am not observing any problems with her organs, heart problems, her murmurs, lung problems, nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been allergies, nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So only the teeth problem was a problem.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm tracks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's, that's spot on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, in fact, she was,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not too long ago, she was limping on a back foot, so we took her to the bed, of course, because we're, you know, helicopter parents, and the, you know, within like 10 minutes of being there, the foot was no longer a father, so it was a large vet bill for no reason.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Other than for this individual would be like, I'm so stunned, he's like, you probably have at least another seven or eight years with her, so it's like, okay, should excuse me to spend $400.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, yeah, thank you, Mila.
47:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, alright.
48:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Mila, thank you so much for communicating with me.
48:03
[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome.
48:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Like who gives a flying beeeep?!
48:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome, she says.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I am definitely a stranger in her world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's not in awe by me, all right.
48:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you think about this session?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And receiving a telepathic reading.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's stunning how spot-on some of the observations, I'll describe those observations have been.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the one in particular was, you know, fear around.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When I would describe as darker men in particular, I mean, as Sarh mentioned, just like a real
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[SPEAKER_03]: growing up and living in Southern California, you know, some various Hispanic, and my grandfather and my family being Sicilian immigrants were certainly much darker and a purabbing, you know, fear around that, spot on and some of her eating preferences and that with her sister.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's it's really illuminating and I think
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[SPEAKER_03]: validating for some of our experience, but then on top of that, you know, obviously heartwarming, heartwarming to hear her feelings about Sara and I, and then giving us a bit more information to ensure that she's as happy as possible and comfortable as possible and that our relationship is handled the way that it should.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
49:27
[SPEAKER_02]: What about you, Sara?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The rain was really interesting, because I've never considered that a strong fear of her, like she has a lot of fears and anxieties, and I wouldn't put that top of the list.
49:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of something that I had forgotten about.
49:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you mentioned that, it was really interesting to know that it is a fear, and there's a reason behind it, because it's connected to her past.
49:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was very eye-opening and good to know, because maybe we'll push her to the outside when her rain's as much as we would,
49:59
[SPEAKER_02]: before, not knowing that, so, and yeah, I guess with her sister, I guess we, so we took Debbie on for a friend, he rescued her from overseas, he was in Syria.
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[SPEAKER_02]: in the military and found her in a dumpster and rescued her and brought her over and so we were not planning on having her.
50:24
[SPEAKER_02]: We never would have gotten another dog from Mila because she's really supposed to be an only child I think, only dog child.
50:31
[SPEAKER_02]: So Debbie coming on was really sudden.
50:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where we definitely weren't planning on keeping her and we just had to because of circumstances.
50:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel that I felt a lot of guilt about that for Mila because I felt she wasn't comfortable
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[SPEAKER_02]: didn't like having her in her home.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm curious, did she?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was it more like, oh, she just annoys me or I really don't like her and I don't want her in my home?
50:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It is more annoys me.
51:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would just recommend you to split them up in separate rooms once in a while so that me like it's her personal space.
51:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
51:09
[SPEAKER_00]: It should be honest because if it's true that telepathically Debbie keeps coming at her with questions, I would be annoyed too and I'll just share with you before I go.
51:20
[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing she has told me so many stories today and thank you and me left for doing that, the only thing where I knew this has been really traumatic for her.
51:32
[SPEAKER_00]: was the food thing.
51:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I was very close to crying when she showed me that she was starved.
51:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the biggest reaction I got throughout the last session here, where it became difficult for me emotionally to feel.
51:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Because everything she showed me was the rain, the Hispanic dudes, all this, has been difficult.
51:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And he stressed out with the
52:00
[SPEAKER_00]: that one was the most difficult one for me as the outsider to feel.
52:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not star of to hear in Europe, you know, I have a great life.
52:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not a projection.
52:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to let you know the difficulties about this topic here.
52:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay.
52:17
[SPEAKER_02]: That's good to know.
52:18
[SPEAKER_02]: That's good to know.
52:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, thank you to that.
52:20
[SPEAKER_03]: That's incredibly valuable as all of us.
52:23
[SPEAKER_03]: It really gives us, I think, a better view of our sweet little meal on how we can
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[SPEAKER_03]: Keep her happy, it's better interact, so thank you so much.
52:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, and thank you so much for participating.
52:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much.
52:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
52:38
[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome, great to meet you, and take care.
52:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I might have to say bye-bye.
52:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the animal's voice with Ditte Young.