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Bryce Harper hurt by fake trade rumors? Ryan Ripken on Orioles new manager, Twins narrow down search · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said. That's what he said. That's
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Speaker 1: what he said, that's what he said.
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Speaker 2: Okay, there's a lot to unpack here, so let's set
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Speaker 2: this up. Dave Dombrowski end of season presser. It's an
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Speaker 2: hour plus, he asks. He gets asked one question about
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Speaker 2: Bryce Harper. He basically said, this wasn't an elite year
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Speaker 2: for a superstar player. Freddie Freeman caught strays for no reason.
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Speaker 2: But he's okay, he's in the World Series. He's just
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Speaker 2: as good as ever. Dave don Browski comes on our
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Speaker 2: show and says a lot was made about nothing, and
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Speaker 2: he thinks he's great, and there's absolutely no truth to
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Speaker 2: bs trade rumors that were floated out there barely even
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Speaker 2: floated out there, and it ran wild. Bryce actually replies
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Speaker 2: and said, I've given my all to Philly from the start.
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Speaker 2: Now there's trade talk. I made every effort to avoid this.
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Speaker 2: It's all I heard in DC with the Nationals. I
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Speaker 2: hated it. It makes me feel uncomfortable. He spoke to
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Speaker 2: Matt Gelip, who put a story out in The Athletic.
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Speaker 2: Harper is hurt by the comments from Dombrowski in the
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Speaker 2: trade speculation. He also said all players get hurt. I
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Speaker 2: hurt my wrist this year and missed a month. Of course,
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Speaker 2: I don't have full year numbers. It's disappointed to hear
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Speaker 2: me being questioned about my contribution to the team. Just
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Speaker 2: really hurt by that notion because I love Philly so much.
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Speaker 2: And he goes on to say, how you know he
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Speaker 2: didn't put a opt out in there because he even
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Speaker 2: though he was advised to do so, he wanted them
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Speaker 2: to know he's going to be there forever. You know,
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Speaker 2: remember last year there were thoughts that his camp wanted
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Speaker 2: an extension even though there's a ton of time left.
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Speaker 2: Scott Boris also spoke I'm paraphrasing a little bit for
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Speaker 2: Scott's team. That's probably listening. But Scott mostly was okay
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Speaker 2: with Dombrowski's comments. He just wanted him to include the
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Speaker 2: fact that he was bothered by a rist issue this year.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair for.
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Speaker 2: Dombrowski to say, Hey, he didn't have an elite year.
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Speaker 2: He also had a rist issue. That's a big deal. Okay,
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Speaker 2: where are we at here? AJ should Bryce be pissed
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Speaker 2: at the Phillies? We had Dombrawski on the other day
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Speaker 2: and he sounded super normal and chill, like I love Bryce,
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Speaker 2: and I just said that, you know, it was a
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Speaker 2: one twenty five ops year plus a year versus a
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Speaker 2: one eighty or whatever he usually puts up.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what we're pissed about here. Dobrowski never
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Speaker 3: said he was on the trade block, did he. I
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Speaker 3: think someone made that up. I don't know what we're
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Speaker 3: mad about. It wasn't Dombrowski that said it. Dobrowski came
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Speaker 3: on here, Bryce, come on here and we'll talk about it.
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Speaker 3: But I mean, he came on here and said there's
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Speaker 3: absolutely no way they're trading him. He loves Bryce, he
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Speaker 3: wants Bryce in Philly. I don't understand what we're mad
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Speaker 3: about here. I wish at one point, Mike, you know, Career,
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Speaker 3: the GM or President of Baseball officer, to come on
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Speaker 3: and said, yeah about me. The way Dombrowski talked about
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Speaker 3: Bryce Harper, it was pretty awesome to hear someone talk
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Speaker 3: about another player like that. So I don't know why
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Speaker 3: we're so angry. I mean, CROs you're in Philly, you're
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Speaker 3: a boots on the ground there. But man, I don't
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Speaker 3: understand what Bryce is so mad about It feels like
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Speaker 3: he got mad over something that was taken out of
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Speaker 3: context and not really if you listen to what Dombrowski said,
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Speaker 3: I don't kind of agree with why he's so mad.
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Speaker 4: I think he got a little bit of miss information.
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Speaker 4: I think he heard what Joel Sherman said. I think
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Speaker 4: it was on a podcast. He didn't say, oh, he's
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Speaker 4: like I see him getting traded here. He's just saying
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Speaker 4: that there's speculation that he could.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't.
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Speaker 4: It was very very tame and Dombrowski obviously he came
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Speaker 4: on here and we didn't say anything about, hey, do
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Speaker 4: you think he's should be traded? Dombrowski brought it up himself,
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Speaker 4: and so I think it's I think Matt Gilb got
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Speaker 4: him at the right time, got him maybe some misinformation,
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Speaker 4: or maybe maybe Bryce was listening to the wrong things
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Speaker 4: or like going on speculation things. I think there is
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Speaker 4: nobody that could have come to Philadelphia and endeared themselves
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Speaker 4: more to Philly fans. I think when Dombrowski, I know,
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Speaker 4: when Dombrowski came on a lot of people in Philly
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Speaker 4: were like, Okay, that's nice. I'm glad he's not being traded.
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Speaker 4: Now it gets re sparked back up by Gelb talking
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Speaker 4: to him, and you know, I think now it's time
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Speaker 4: for Dave Dombrowski to finally bury the hatchet here and
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Speaker 4: just say, hey, you know what, here's what was going on.
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Speaker 4: There was never any trade speculation, that was never from me.
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Speaker 4: A lot of things have, like he said when he
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Speaker 4: came on, kind of taken the you know, a life
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Speaker 4: of its own. Comments that he said a short snippet
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Speaker 4: in an hour long conversation.
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Speaker 1: And my favorite part of it was, which.
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Speaker 4: I don't think a lot of people necessarily read, was
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Speaker 4: Boris said, you gotta let harpery meaning Ferrari Harpery. When
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Speaker 4: Boris uses those play on words type of things, you
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Speaker 4: gotta let him, you gotta let him eat. He said,
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Speaker 4: maybe get somebody behind him so the tea he doesn't
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Speaker 4: have the second least number of pitches in his own
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Speaker 4: scene of anybody in baseball. Like he's saying, hey, you
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Speaker 4: know what, if you didn't think he did well, maybe
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Speaker 4: get a number four hitter that's gonna hit behind Harper
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Speaker 4: to be able to protect him in the lineup, which
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Speaker 4: I thought was a cool statement by Boris. Selling another
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Speaker 4: one of his clients that probably is gonna get four
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Speaker 4: million dollars.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they didn't get good production out of
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Speaker 2: the cleanup spot. You can look at the numbers, right
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Speaker 2: both ops or if you wait the numbers, it's even
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Speaker 2: worse for Philly. So okay, that's fine, that's fair.
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Speaker 3: Rights did come on he came on our show and
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Speaker 3: staid the trade rumors weren't true. I don't understand, like
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Speaker 3: he literally came on here and said they were not true.
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Speaker 1: He did. He he didn't have What else does he
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Speaker 1: have to say?
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Speaker 3: He came on here and he had Remember, he pulled
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Speaker 3: out a piece of paper at one point, was like
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Speaker 3: and started reading out all these things, like what else
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Speaker 3: does he He doesn't have to say anything. Plus, you
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Speaker 3: know what, Brice, you have ten to five. They can't
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Speaker 3: trade you, So just tell him I'm.
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Speaker 1: Not going anywhere. And it shut. Nolan Arnado did it
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Speaker 1: if you have send trade.
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Speaker 2: The no trade clause with the Phillies, right, So he
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Speaker 2: said he hasn't spoken to owner or GM or present
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Speaker 2: base boss, whatever you want to call. But isn't this
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Speaker 2: a super simple dave on the line? Hey, Bryce, I
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Speaker 2: went and cleared it up on Foul Territory right after.
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Speaker 2: That's really the only show you should be watching and
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Speaker 2: paying attention to daily. You should go on that show too. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: we're not trading you. We love you. I reiterated that
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Speaker 2: if you want, I can get the Foul Territory team
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Speaker 2: behind the scenes to cut the clip and send it
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Speaker 2: to you as well. But in all seriousness, I have
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Speaker 2: the quote that started the trade speculation, and this is
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Speaker 2: how the news cycle is. I don't want to say dangerous,
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Speaker 2: but full of crap nowadays. Joel Sherman is an insider.
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Speaker 2: He reports on news, trades, et cetera, just like Ken does,
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Speaker 2: just like many others in the industry do, right, That's
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Speaker 2: one part of the job. Those insiders also are commentators
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Speaker 2: and have opinion, and they're allowed to have opinions. They
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Speaker 2: write columns, they go on shows. Sometimes we bring on
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Speaker 2: Ken and ask him for news. Sometimes we ask what
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Speaker 2: his opinion is. That's fine either way. Joel went on
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Speaker 2: his Yankee podcast and said about Bryce, I think I
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Speaker 2: think this is a player that is angry about the
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Speaker 2: contract he's currently operating under. Would I be one hundred
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Speaker 2: percent shocked if Bryce Harper gets traded this offseason. No,
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Speaker 2: so all he said was in his opinion, probably based
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Speaker 2: on last year wanting an extension. He thinks he doesn't
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Speaker 2: like the contract and wants to move on. So he
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Speaker 2: actually said he thinks Bryce wants to go and that's
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Speaker 2: why he doesn't feel one hundred percent shocked. Now, he
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Speaker 2: might have felt eighty percent shocked, but not one hundred
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Speaker 2: percent shocked if he gets traded. No report, no talking
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Speaker 2: to anyone on that front right now, fast forward. All
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, a lot of the aggregator world looks
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Speaker 2: at this and says, oh, here's an insider saying that
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Speaker 2: he's going to get traded.
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Speaker 5: Come on.
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Speaker 2: So it's a poor job on many people's case, including
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Speaker 2: whoever was giving that information to Bryce, or if Bryce
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Speaker 2: is seeing that online whatever social media accounts he's following AJC.
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Speaker 2: That's the part where I think we're lost in translation.
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Speaker 2: Go directly to the source, go to the president baseball
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Speaker 2: op go to the owner, and like you said, it
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Speaker 2: doesn't even matter anyway with the no trade clause. But
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Speaker 2: on top of that, we're taking one sentence from an
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Speaker 2: opinion podcast and we're turning it into this. What I
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Speaker 2: fear is that we're going to run into front office
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Speaker 2: members being so careful about every word they say. I mean,
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Speaker 2: Dave Dombrowski we mentioned is a real talker and he
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Speaker 2: didn't say anything wrong. Now you're gonna have front office
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we already have enough GM speak, don't you.
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Speaker 3: I mean, all these gems that come on here, there's
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Speaker 3: been a few that don't. But how many of these
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Speaker 3: gems do we get on here that say they give
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Speaker 3: you the perfect long and they just have a lot
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Speaker 3: of words.
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Speaker 1: I don't ever really say anything or give you any opinion.
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Speaker 1: We don't want that. And the guys that.
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Speaker 3: Are good again, Dave Dombrowski came on here and he
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Speaker 3: laid it flat on the table and said, Bryce is
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Speaker 3: not going to be traded.
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Speaker 1: We love Bryce.
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Speaker 3: I didn't need to say anything else. Bryce, We're sorry,
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Speaker 3: but I don't know, I don't know what else you
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Speaker 3: can say. And yeah, sure, right, Scott. People take one
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Speaker 3: sentence and it makes for clicks, and everybody wants to click.
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Speaker 3: So hey, Bryce Harper's gonna get traded. Click click look lolick,
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Speaker 3: look look, look look click. Every person in Philly freaks
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Speaker 3: out what and then Bryce probably he gets a text
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Speaker 3: from somebody. I don't know if this is true or not,
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Speaker 3: and this is my Someone probably texts him and says, hey, Bryce,
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Speaker 3: do you hear you get the rumors you're getting traded?
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Speaker 3: And Bryce is probably like, what the hell are we
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Speaker 3: talking about? And then he didn't even read the article,
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Speaker 3: he just saw the headline and then boom, next thing
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Speaker 3: you know, he's got to go on Matt Gelve's show
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Speaker 3: and defend himself, which I appreciate him doing that, but
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Speaker 3: I mean.
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Speaker 1: He's not getting traded. Bryce.
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Speaker 3: You have ten to five plus, you have Scott Morris.
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Speaker 3: Maybe Scott if he gets you traded, I'll get you
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Speaker 3: another three hundred million. But you're not getting traded.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. He got duped by clickbait. It takes one
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Speaker 2: phone call and I'm sure it's happening.
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure you can get Sherman's number two if
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Speaker 3: he needs it. I'm pretty sure that Scott probably has it.
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Speaker 3: Scott Boris probably.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's been back and forth already, but again
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Speaker 2: it was only on a pot. He wasn't reporting it.
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Speaker 4: find out all you need to find out. Guy, just
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Speaker 4: hit the subscribe button. Bryce does it. Everyone else can
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Speaker 4: do it.
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Speaker 2: Bryce will come on someday. But well, I think I
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Speaker 2: think now is the time. But anyway, we'll get to
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Speaker 2: it in the off season coming up next.
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Speaker 3: The Orioles have only somebody that played with him.
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Speaker 1: Who was that? You don't have anybody in this show
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Speaker 1: that's played with Bryce Harper.
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Speaker 4: Pap.
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Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Yeah, I don't think that
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Speaker 2: one's gonna go well, although ratings would go through the
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Speaker 2: roof if we bring them on for that right the
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Speaker 2: official public ten year later apology or something like that. Anyway, Hey,
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Speaker 2: your thoughts on the Twins manager process here. So Dan
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Speaker 2: Hayes reported over the weekend that they're likely down before
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Speaker 2: there's still a chance World Series ends. They look into
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Speaker 2: some other guys maybe involved in the series right now,
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Speaker 2: but it sounds like James Rowson, Ryan Flaherty, Scott Servis,
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Speaker 2: Derek Sheling for the four.
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Speaker 3: Derek Shelton would be Roco Baldelli, wasn't he there was
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Speaker 3: his bench coach. Wouldn't that be just like going back
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Speaker 3: to Roco kind of sort of maybe. I don't know,
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Speaker 3: Ralson was they didn't like them enough to keep them.
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Speaker 3: Ralson was their hitting coach. I mean they signed him
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Speaker 3: an extension and fired them, so they didn't like them
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Speaker 3: that much. Roson was the someone. Yeah, Rolson was their
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Speaker 3: hitting coach for a while.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I mean Scott Servis, what did he do to deserve it?
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Speaker 3: I mean he got fired from his best friend. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It's it's an interesting names.
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Speaker 3: You would think you would think the twin, like I
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Speaker 3: know Nick Punto was on this list, but he didn't
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Speaker 3: make the cut.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Ryan Flaherty might be nice. He's a new guy.
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Speaker 3: He's been around, he's been on winning teams, and I
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Speaker 3: like Ryan Flaherty, So I don't know, maybe try him.
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Speaker 1: Try something different.
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Speaker 3: You got a team that's not going to probably compete,
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Speaker 3: right because I'm not gonna spend money, So why not?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, what do I know?
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Speaker 2: Hey, Ryan Ripton joins us right now, CEO of Ryan
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Speaker 2: Ripkin Media, and he's live Tuesdays through Thursdays on his
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Speaker 2: own YouTube show. I catch it frequently for a little
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Speaker 2: dose of what's going on with Baltimore. First time on here, Ryan,
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Speaker 2: great to have you on. How you doing.
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Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys having me on and always with news.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 5: I wish that this news of the new manager broke,
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Speaker 5: you know, between nine to five, But that's not how
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Speaker 5: this works in the baseball world, right.
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Speaker 2: Oh, don't get me started. For many off seasons you
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Speaker 2: get the same situation. Ryan, I'll let you in on
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Speaker 2: a little secret. Okay. Owners like to have cocktails late
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Speaker 2: at night on weekends. Often we see the trades, and
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Speaker 2: not trades, it's more signings that happened. Like last offseason.
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Speaker 2: You can look, half the signings happened at like twelve
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Speaker 2: thirty on a Friday or Saturday night, East Coast time.
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Speaker 2: So you're catching the owners at nine to thirty West Coast,
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Speaker 2: maybe having a cocktail or an East Coast guy like that.
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Speaker 2: So anyway, look for that. It's something that bothers us frequently.
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Speaker 2: But let's get into that news story that broke late
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Speaker 2: Sunday night. Craig Albernaz is going to be the new
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Speaker 2: manager of the Orioles at age forty two. What do
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Speaker 2: you know and do you like the move?
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Speaker 5: Well, definitely, it wasn't on anyone's Bengo card when you
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Speaker 5: got the news last night late that the Orioles were
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Speaker 5: in the agreement, are finalizing the deal. Now, if you
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Speaker 5: take a step back, fans reaction is going to be, well,
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Speaker 5: who is Craig Albernaz? You know, where is this veteran
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Speaker 5: presence manager or why haven't we heard anything from him? Now?
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Speaker 5: If we continue to roll it back the baseball side
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Speaker 5: of it, understanding Craig's background, a guy that came from
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Speaker 5: the Rays obviously with the Guardians, and in between that
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Speaker 5: with the San Francisco Giants, and a guy with an
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Speaker 5: organization that is focused on little things and yes, metric
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Speaker 5: based with the Rays and has a great reputation. You know,
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Speaker 5: that was the things that were jumping off the page
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Speaker 5: to me. Everyone I've talked to about him really likes
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Speaker 5: him as a communicator, but as well as a guy
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Speaker 5: that they believe is kind of that next up and
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Speaker 5: coming manager. And so when I was talking about this
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Speaker 5: for the last weeks here on my show was the
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Speaker 5: Orioles could have gone a couple different ways. I didn't
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Speaker 5: see the veteran manager just because completely old school. You
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Speaker 5: gotta let then that manager, the old school veteran manager
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Speaker 5: manage how he wants to, and I wasn't sure if
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Speaker 5: that was going to be a fit for the front office.
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Speaker 5: And then it was up and coming next manager, or
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Speaker 5: you stay with Tony Manzolino, And we got that answer
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Speaker 5: last night. And now it's going to be a wait
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Speaker 5: and see. There's gonna be a lot of pros and cons,
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Speaker 5: but those were all kind of my initial thoughts and reactions.
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Speaker 3: Well, why not go old school, Brian? Why not go
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Speaker 3: you kind of had the new school guy in Brandon Hyde.
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Speaker 3: We saw how that ended up. They didn't win a
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Speaker 3: playoff game. Why not go old school?
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Speaker 1: Why not?
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Speaker 3: I mean, they're not going to bring back Buck Showalter,
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Speaker 3: but somebody that's been around and managed before and has
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Speaker 3: the experience a little bit that can give a little
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Speaker 3: pushback to michae Elias because Michael Olias, as you know
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Speaker 3: there in Baltimore, has taken some heat for some of
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Speaker 3: the things that have happened.
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Speaker 1: So is this a case of, hey, we don't want
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Speaker 1: to go old school.
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Speaker 3: Craig will be on the same teams as Michael Olias
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Speaker 3: and they can work together and try to figure this
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Speaker 3: thing out how to make this team good again.
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Speaker 5: Well, it's an interesting question, you know, and because you're
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Speaker 5: looking at what was the questions around this team this
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Speaker 5: past year was how does this young team take that
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Speaker 5: next step? Do you need a guy that's in there
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Speaker 5: that's going to help show them the way or to
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Speaker 5: get quote unquote more of the old school baseball guys
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Speaker 5: that can be there and create that experienced, been there
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Speaker 5: before type of feeling. And I just we know this
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Speaker 5: now with front offices, when it comes to the management
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Speaker 5: in the clubhouse, in the locker room, it's different than
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Speaker 5: it was five years ago, a decade ago, two decades ago,
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Speaker 5: where there can't be as much contention as there once was.
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Speaker 5: You got you kind of have to be aligned philosophically.
17:31
Speaker 1: Now.
17:31
Speaker 5: One thing I want to say for michae Elias is
17:35
Speaker 5: I do believe this past year he sat there and
17:38
Speaker 5: went what we have done hasn't worked, and we need
17:42
Speaker 5: to try to be more open minded. And the number
17:45
Speaker 5: one thing that the Orioles need, and it didn't matter
17:48
Speaker 5: who the manager was gonna be, was you philosophically, in
17:52
Speaker 5: my opinion, had to get better at developing these young
17:57
Speaker 5: guys and then teaching them how to go and win
18:00
Speaker 5: the games. When things get tough, and I think that's
18:03
Speaker 5: a philosophical thing, whether you bring this manager in or
18:06
Speaker 5: it's being taught. But what's happening is there were so
18:10
Speaker 5: many guys in the Oriols it felt like they didn't
18:12
Speaker 5: have the exact role. There was a lot of the
18:15
Speaker 5: same type of hitters we know in a lineup. You
18:18
Speaker 5: need the boppers, you need the guys that get on base,
18:20
Speaker 5: and above all, you need to find a way. And
18:23
Speaker 5: I think that there was a little bit of confusion.
18:25
Speaker 5: I think that there was a little bit of uncertainty
18:28
Speaker 5: with a lot of the guys because the one thing
18:30
Speaker 5: this Orioles team does not lack, it does not lack talent,
18:33
Speaker 5: but I think philosophically it lacks what do we need
18:37
Speaker 5: to do to take the next step. So I think
18:39
Speaker 5: they're taking the bet that Craig Albernaz, young coach that
18:44
Speaker 5: is coming from the Guardians, who all they do is
18:47
Speaker 5: find ways to win, that he's going to connect with
18:50
Speaker 5: these young guys and help Michaelias in this front office
18:53
Speaker 5: get the most out of them going in the twenty
18:55
Speaker 5: twenty six.
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Speaker 4: So you say that about Michaelias, does that mean Michael
20:01
Speaker 4: Oias expects this team to score seven runs a game
20:04
Speaker 4: to win? Like did Michaelias look at himself and say, oh, shoot,
20:10
Speaker 4: we had some injuries. There's just no way that we
20:12
Speaker 4: can or is he going ah, whatever, you know, we
20:15
Speaker 4: got Chicano. I really thought he was going to be
20:18
Speaker 4: an all star, like he had money to spend, and
20:21
Speaker 4: in my opinion, he flushed it.
20:24
Speaker 5: So, yes, you can go back and look at it.
20:28
Speaker 5: Did the Orioles do a good job of bolstering their
20:30
Speaker 5: pitching staff? I think we know the answer in twenty
20:34
Speaker 5: twenty five emphatic No, I think last year. What I
20:38
Speaker 5: want to at least point out ownership's first full off
20:41
Speaker 5: season was this past year. Yes, they took over and
20:44
Speaker 5: everyone was excited in twenty twenty four, but they didn't
20:47
Speaker 5: even get the look at it all. Right, well, what
20:49
Speaker 5: do we have to do?
20:51
Speaker 1: You know? Now?
20:53
Speaker 5: The pressure and even the one thing going back to
20:55
Speaker 5: that manager talk of why I was wondering who it
20:58
Speaker 5: was going to be. I think job is in Michael
21:02
Speaker 5: isaa's decision on who he hires. The pressure really is
21:05
Speaker 5: on the front office because the expectation for this Oriols
21:09
Speaker 5: team now in twenty twenty six, right, it's not to oh, well,
21:12
Speaker 5: let's just let's develop these guys and let's get better. No, no, no,
21:16
Speaker 5: it's you got to compete to win the AL East again,
21:19
Speaker 5: because you did it in twenty three. You were a
21:21
Speaker 5: top team in twenty four where you were holding on
21:23
Speaker 5: for dear life and made the postseason. You got to
21:26
Speaker 5: find a way to get over the hump. And I
21:28
Speaker 5: do believe that they are looking at all different components,
21:31
Speaker 5: and I think the one thing that they have to
21:33
Speaker 5: no matter what, is they have to over expect, you know,
21:39
Speaker 5: all the injuries that can have happen in the pitching world.
21:42
Speaker 5: And I do believe they're going to be extremely aggressive
21:45
Speaker 5: in the pitching department. What that looks like, you know,
21:48
Speaker 5: I wish I had the crystal ball that that's gonna
21:50
Speaker 5: say they're gonna go out and get a top end guy,
21:52
Speaker 5: They're going to make a trade. But the reality is
21:56
Speaker 5: there are three guys right now in that staff that
21:59
Speaker 5: for me, on the Oriols you can count on or
22:02
Speaker 5: who you expect. Kyle Bradish is gonna be there if
22:05
Speaker 5: he's healthy. Trevor Rodgers looked really good. You hope he
22:09
Speaker 5: can implement that. And then Dean Kramer, because he eats innings,
22:12
Speaker 5: he's been there. You can remove the month of April
22:15
Speaker 5: for Dean Kramer. His numbers look insanely better. And then
22:19
Speaker 5: I know that they have Wells and you have Grayson
22:21
Speaker 5: Rodriguez and I love Grayson. Unfortunately, the biggest thing Grayson's
22:25
Speaker 5: got to be healthy. So you can't expect that Grayson's
22:28
Speaker 5: gonna be ready. So you got to go and get
22:30
Speaker 5: three or four arms. So this offseason, the most pressure
22:34
Speaker 5: is on Michaelias, but also this Baltimore Oriols team, Craig
22:38
Speaker 5: Albernaz has to be ready for this team is expected
22:41
Speaker 5: to win, and not just we're gonna get over five hundred, no, no, no,
22:46
Speaker 5: you got to make some noise and get a postseason
22:48
Speaker 5: victory on top of it.
22:50
Speaker 3: Ryan, you mentioned the pitching. The guy who leads that
22:53
Speaker 3: pitching for years we thought would be Adley Rutchman. They
22:56
Speaker 3: signed Basaio Basalalo to the contract extension and he's a catcher.
23:01
Speaker 3: Is he a catcher long term?
23:02
Speaker 1: We don't know.
23:03
Speaker 3: But you mentioned development, like the biggest thing. When I
23:05
Speaker 3: look at the Orioles, they had Mayo, they had er Said,
23:08
Speaker 3: they had Retchman, they had Henderson, they have Holiday, they
23:11
Speaker 3: have all these guys Westbird, but none of them have
23:14
Speaker 3: become a gunner.
23:15
Speaker 1: Probably is the exception of this.
23:17
Speaker 3: I'll leave Gunner out of this, but none of these
23:19
Speaker 3: guys have taken that next step to be the superstar
23:22
Speaker 3: that the Orioles for years. We're not trading this guy.
23:24
Speaker 3: We're not gonna trade this guy. We're not gonna trade
23:26
Speaker 3: that guy. And it's all been position players. Is Craig
23:29
Speaker 3: the guy to help him say, hey, this is how
23:31
Speaker 3: we take the next step? Is there somebody else that
23:33
Speaker 3: are gonna bring in to help these guys, because to me, yes,
23:36
Speaker 3: you can look at the pitching, but the position player
23:38
Speaker 3: wise hasn't taken the next step. And kind of the
23:40
Speaker 3: face of that to me is Adley Rutchman, because I
23:42
Speaker 3: thought he was gonna be an absolute superstar. And now
23:45
Speaker 3: they have Asaiyo who they brought in as a catcher
23:47
Speaker 3: and they signed him. What's Adley's future and how can
23:50
Speaker 3: they get these guys to take the next step position
23:51
Speaker 3: player wise?
23:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that that is probably the biggest headline
23:57
Speaker 5: if we're gonna to really focus on and be specific.
24:00
Speaker 5: And I said this last year going into twenty twenty five,
24:04
Speaker 5: with all of the question marks around the pitching staff,
24:06
Speaker 5: how would they hold up? And we know, you give
24:08
Speaker 5: up five six runs a game, you're probably not gonna
24:11
Speaker 5: win a lot of games. That's just the nature of
24:13
Speaker 5: the business. But My motto last year was you go
24:18
Speaker 5: as far as this young core takes you, and the
24:20
Speaker 5: oriel strength last year needed to be their offense, and
24:24
Speaker 5: it was too inconsistent. Whether it was guys being injured,
24:27
Speaker 5: which are things that you can't control, or just in
24:30
Speaker 5: the moment situationally having to carry your team. No one
24:35
Speaker 5: stepped up in that manner. You know. I'm still very
24:38
Speaker 5: bullish on a lot of those guys, you know, Gunner Henderson.
24:40
Speaker 5: I'm not worried about Gunner at all being around him.
24:45
Speaker 5: I got an opportunity in the minor leagues to play
24:47
Speaker 5: with Wan Soda in the Nationals organization, and then I
24:49
Speaker 5: got to be around Gunner and spring training, especially six
24:52
Speaker 5: weeks coming out of COVID, where you can just watch
24:54
Speaker 5: a guy and you kind of have that oh crap moment.
24:57
Speaker 5: I had that moment for Juan Soto. I still have
25:00
Speaker 5: that moment for Gunner Henderson. So I think he's going
25:02
Speaker 5: to elevate his game going to the next year. But
25:05
Speaker 5: as far as Adli Rutchman's concerned, you know, and a
25:08
Speaker 5: lot of these young guys, you know, when you come
25:11
Speaker 5: up through the system and you're told how great you are,
25:15
Speaker 5: and the Oriols didn't have any hiccups until the midway
25:17
Speaker 5: through twenty twenty four. For this young nucleus, it tests you,
25:21
Speaker 5: and I think for these guys, how do you handle
25:23
Speaker 5: that adversity. I'm buying Adlei Rutchman that he's going to
25:27
Speaker 5: be able to be that backstop. I think Sam Besillo
25:30
Speaker 5: is going to play a lot of first base and
25:33
Speaker 5: he's going to catch as well. But that's a securit
25:35
Speaker 5: or it's an insurance policy if that's the case an
25:38
Speaker 5: Adlee doesn't work out. But the biggest thing, you know,
25:41
Speaker 5: Adley's got to stay healthy. I thought, if he didn't
25:44
Speaker 5: get hurt in June, we were going to see that resurgence,
25:48
Speaker 5: But for two years in a row, he's been banged up,
25:51
Speaker 5: So I'm watching that. I do think, above all, though,
25:55
Speaker 5: when you're looking at this Orioles team, do you have
25:58
Speaker 5: a veteran guy in that lineup that you can depend on?
26:02
Speaker 5: Because right now, when I mentioned earlier, there's a lot
26:04
Speaker 5: of guys in this lineup that are trying to figure
26:06
Speaker 5: out who they are. You know, we can go to
26:08
Speaker 5: the Guardians since Craig Albernaz just came from there. What's
26:12
Speaker 5: Stephen Kwan's role Stephen Kwan, He's a tough out, he's gritty,
26:17
Speaker 5: knows how to put the ball in play, makes things happen.
26:20
Speaker 5: And then Jose Ramirez, what's your job? Get him in?
26:23
Speaker 1: Do that?
26:24
Speaker 5: The Orioles don't have their their RBI guys, and they
26:27
Speaker 5: don't have the guys that can make something happen. So
26:30
Speaker 5: I think it's a lot of these young guys figuring
26:32
Speaker 5: it out. But I think they do need one more
26:36
Speaker 5: big bat in the middle of that order that can
26:38
Speaker 5: help stabilize them because there are still so many question
26:41
Speaker 5: marks and so many young players that are trying to
26:43
Speaker 5: figure out who they are.
26:45
Speaker 4: I agree with you that I think Gunnar Henderson is
26:48
Speaker 4: a superstar can still be a superstar. Is there any
26:51
Speaker 4: way that he doesn't play shortstop for the next three years?
26:56
Speaker 4: Is there any way that the Orioles have enough because
26:59
Speaker 4: I've heard it from scouts, I've heard it from different
27:02
Speaker 4: people in baseball. Maybe he's kind of miscast as a
27:06
Speaker 4: shortstop and maybe their best shortstop is Holiday. So is
27:11
Speaker 4: there any way that the Orioles have enough, have enough
27:16
Speaker 4: gunction to say he's not our shortstopper? Are they fully
27:19
Speaker 4: committed and I'll lose my job to Gunner Henderson playing short.
27:25
Speaker 5: I think Gunner Henderson is the shortstop of the future
27:28
Speaker 5: for the Baltimore Orioles, you know, and I know that
27:30
Speaker 5: there's that conversation around could you have a better fit,
27:34
Speaker 5: could Gunner Henderson profile better at third base? And with
27:38
Speaker 5: that help in that conversation, sure, I think you saw
27:42
Speaker 5: a lot of strides from Gunner at the end of
27:45
Speaker 5: this past year of what he can do and what
27:47
Speaker 5: he can do really really well. I mean defensively, you
27:51
Speaker 5: can argue that last stretch he was the best defensive
27:54
Speaker 5: short stop down the stretch. I'm not saying that he is,
27:57
Speaker 5: but you can argue of how well he was playing
28:00
Speaker 5: down the stretch. And Gunner physically, you know, I come
28:03
Speaker 5: from a family where I had a family member that
28:07
Speaker 5: was a pretty large individual and a lot of people
28:10
Speaker 5: didn't think that he could play the position because of
28:12
Speaker 5: his size and his quote unquote abilities. You'd have to
28:15
Speaker 5: move Gunner Henderson. I think is in that conversation where
28:19
Speaker 5: where Gunner gets in trouble is not because of his
28:21
Speaker 5: physical ability. It's continuing to learn how to play the position.
28:25
Speaker 5: And I would rather take the most physically gifted infielder
28:29
Speaker 5: and that is still Gunner and continue to work with
28:31
Speaker 5: him because he can make the most spectacular plays. But
28:36
Speaker 5: now the goal for him moving forward is can you
28:39
Speaker 5: make those in between plays more routine? Can you take
28:43
Speaker 5: the pressure off of the rest of the group in
28:45
Speaker 5: the infield? And I think that's the evolution of the
28:48
Speaker 5: young player. But again, I believe the Gunner Henderson should
28:53
Speaker 5: be the guy, and I think the Orioles are looking
28:55
Speaker 5: at him and they think he's just scratching the surface
28:58
Speaker 5: of how good he could be as the future shortstop
29:01
Speaker 5: for the Baltimore Orioles.
29:03
Speaker 3: Right, And first of all, I want to make sure
29:04
Speaker 3: that people know I did say that Gunner was the
29:06
Speaker 3: exception to this question of not being developed, because I
29:10
Speaker 3: think he's a star. So I want people to understand
29:12
Speaker 3: that I did not say that he was. I did
29:15
Speaker 3: say the Gunner was the one guy that has taken
29:17
Speaker 3: that next step. But before we let you go, what's
29:20
Speaker 3: the one move you'd like to see him make? Is
29:22
Speaker 3: it starting pitcher, is it veteran position player? Is it
29:27
Speaker 3: back end bullpen guy? What's the one move? And I
29:30
Speaker 3: know you're gonna say starting pitcher, So then I'm gonna
29:32
Speaker 3: ask you to give me a name. Would they make
29:33
Speaker 3: a trade for Trek Scouble? Would they make a trade
29:37
Speaker 3: for someone of that level and give up some of
29:39
Speaker 3: these guys that have possibly been untouchable for so long.
29:44
Speaker 5: Well, I think every team would say starting pitching, you
29:47
Speaker 5: need it, you know, So I think the Oriols are
29:49
Speaker 5: no exception there. I don't see a move for Schooble.
29:52
Speaker 5: I don't think the Tigers should move him unless it's
29:55
Speaker 5: a king's ransom. But that's a whole other discussion, because
29:58
Speaker 5: the Tigers they should be competing next year to try
30:01
Speaker 5: to go out and win this whole thing. But for
30:04
Speaker 5: the Orioles, trade partners make sense. I know the Pirates,
30:07
Speaker 5: you know, when you look at them for their needs
30:09
Speaker 5: compared to what they have in the pitching staff, would
30:12
Speaker 5: they finally be willing to give up a guy with control?
30:15
Speaker 5: I know, Mitch Keller was a name that's been thrown out.
30:18
Speaker 5: I love his stuff, you know, And it makes sense.
30:22
Speaker 5: Sandy down in Miami looked like a prime candidate. But
30:24
Speaker 5: now the Marlins they look like they're turning things around
30:27
Speaker 5: a lot quicker. So I just don't know if they're
30:30
Speaker 5: gonna go out and get the top end free agent.
30:32
Speaker 5: You know, Ranger Suarez is a guy that I really
30:35
Speaker 5: like because I like guys that know what they're doing
30:37
Speaker 5: and they can pitch to what they have. The power
30:41
Speaker 5: guys are great, but you got to know guys that
30:43
Speaker 5: can go out there and make pitches. So do they
30:45
Speaker 5: target a guy like that in free agency? And lastly,
30:48
Speaker 5: though outside of pitching, I think they'd need a veteran bat.
30:52
Speaker 5: And actually, before now or in the past, you felt
30:54
Speaker 5: like they had an idea of who their outfield is,
30:57
Speaker 5: and you really don't. You know the infield set. You're
31:00
Speaker 5: gonna have Westburg, Holiday Gunner and then probably Kobe Meyo
31:03
Speaker 5: Sambasaio and see what happens with Ryan Mountcastle. You don't
31:08
Speaker 5: know who's gonna be in your outfield. Tyler O'Neil has
31:11
Speaker 5: the option, which I expect him to pick up. I
31:14
Speaker 5: think you need a guy, a veteran bat that when
31:17
Speaker 5: things go wrong, he writes the ship. I really do.
31:22
Speaker 5: And I can't sit there and think that they're gonna
31:24
Speaker 5: go after a guy like Kyle Tucker, but they need
31:29
Speaker 5: they need someone to anchor down that lineup because so
31:33
Speaker 5: many times last year the team would get in a
31:35
Speaker 5: funk and no one helped them get out of it.
31:38
Speaker 5: So I would say prioritizing two veteran bats, not just one,
31:43
Speaker 5: can help this Orioles team hopefully take the next step
31:45
Speaker 5: because if not, oh goodness in Baltimore. Here hasn't been
31:49
Speaker 5: pretty this year. If you've been an Orioles fan Ravens fan,
31:52
Speaker 5: I don't know if the city can take the Orioles
31:54
Speaker 5: having another down year so to speak, well last.
31:58
Speaker 2: One, yes or no they sweep the front office if
32:01
Speaker 2: they don't make the playoffs this year. I mean, they
32:03
Speaker 2: were the super Tankers and then took an unacceptable in
32:06
Speaker 2: my mind, step back two missus in a row. After
32:09
Speaker 2: all the pain in the city had to go through
32:11
Speaker 2: for the Orioles to get to be the Astros. This
32:15
Speaker 2: is not what the Astros did for twelve years. Do
32:18
Speaker 2: they sweep the front office? It sounds like they're not
32:19
Speaker 2: going to hire a GM under Elias this year, maybe
32:22
Speaker 2: waiting to see how the year goes.
32:25
Speaker 5: I would say, unless it's a embarrassing year, I'd say no.
32:29
Speaker 5: Even if they missed the playoffs, I would still say no.
32:31
Speaker 5: I think it depends on how it goes. Now, if
32:34
Speaker 5: they're worse than this past year, then all bets are
32:38
Speaker 5: off and it could definitely happen. But I think it
32:40
Speaker 5: would have to take something so embarrassing for the Orioles
32:46
Speaker 5: to make that move. That's just my gut right now.
32:49
Speaker 2: Five hundred team, which would be better than this past season.
32:52
Speaker 2: You think they keep rolling with the group.
32:55
Speaker 5: I think they roll with the group and then the
32:57
Speaker 5: seat gets hot.
33:01
Speaker 2: Oh we're gonna have to bring them back on to
33:02
Speaker 2: get into that. Yeah.
33:04
Speaker 3: By the way, speaking of I know you've murt it up.
33:07
Speaker 3: Have you seen the Doctor Pepper commercial where they have
33:09
Speaker 3: the coach and they're like hot seats sit on and
33:11
Speaker 3: they turn on the flame. It was all over college
33:13
Speaker 3: Football's hilarious. So that's the That's when I when you
33:16
Speaker 3: said that the seed will get hot. That's all I
33:18
Speaker 3: could think about when you said that, right, is that commercial?
33:21
Speaker 5: Well, now now I have a good visualization as well.
33:24
Speaker 5: Now that's all I'm gonna think about the rest of
33:25
Speaker 5: the day, to be honest, talk about it any any
33:29
Speaker 5: time more. Hopefully it's not the case and the birds
33:32
Speaker 5: are back. Maybe they pulled the Toronto Blue Jays. Well,
33:35
Speaker 5: if they did this year.
33:36
Speaker 1: Why not?
33:36
Speaker 5: You know, I think that'd be that that's the best
33:38
Speaker 5: case in Baltimore. But we'll take it day by day.
33:41
Speaker 5: Let's win, let's win, Let's win eighty five games next
33:44
Speaker 5: year and go for it.
33:44
Speaker 1: They better find their vlag guerrero then.
33:47
Speaker 2: That's right, not a core. Yeah, yeah, that would be nice. Yes,
33:52
Speaker 2: well this was great Ryan, great insight. Great to have
33:54
Speaker 2: you on here for the first time. Appreciate the time
33:56
Speaker 2: and everyone that was asking in the chat to check
33:59
Speaker 2: out his channel much more on this Tuesday through Thursday Live.
34:02
Speaker 5: Thanks Ryan, I appreciate you, guys.