Latest / The Retention Marketing Podcast with Fexingo: Email, SMS, and Loyalty for Repeat Customers / How BRUNT Workwear Turns Boot Buyers Into Brand Loyalists
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- Lucas: There's a category of product where most brands accept that the customer buys once and disappears. Work boots. You buy a pair, they last two or three years, maybe you replace them, maybe you don't. It's a low-attention, high-durability category. So a brand called BRUNT Workwear — founded in 2021, based in Boston — decided that instead of accepting that one-and-done pattern, they would engineer a retention model around the physical life cycle of the boot itself. Luna: And that's interesting because most DTC brands sell things you consume regularly — coffee, skincare, supplements. A boot is the opposite. It's durable. So how do you build a relationship with something that doesn't need replacing every month? Lucas: Right, and BRUNT's insight is that the product's durability isn't the enemy of retention — it's the structure. If you know a boot lasts roughly 400 to 600 work days depending on the job site, you can build your entire communication calendar around that timeline instead of a calendar date. Luna: So they're not sending 'Hey, it's been three months' emails. They're sending 'Your tread is at forty percent of its original depth' emails? Lucas: Exactly. They have what they call a 'Boot Health Check' email series. It starts with an initial purchase confirmation that includes care instructions. Then at roughly the six-month mark — based on average wear data from their own customers — they send an email with a subject line like 'How are your BRUNTs holding up?' with a link to a short survey about job type, surface conditions, and any discomfort. Luna: And that survey feeds their segmentation. So they're not guessing when you need new boots — they're asking and then acting on it. Lucas: Yes. And the segmentation is surprisingly granular. They sort by job type — electricians, landscapers, framers, concrete workers. Each of those trades puts different stress on the boot. Framers wear out the toe and the shank faster. Concrete guys degrade the sole from chemical exposure. So the follow-up content is tailored: if you're a framer, you get an email about their reinforced toe line. If you're a concrete worker, you get one about their acid-resistant sole compound. Luna: That's a lot of content operations for a brand that's only been around for five years. Did they build this from day one? Lucas: Not exactly. When they launched in 2021, they were purely acquisition-focused — Instagram ads, influencer partnerships with trade influencers, that kind of thing. But by early 2023, they realized their repeat purchase rate was under 12 percent, which is low even for a durable-goods brand. So they hired a retention marketing lead from a subscription box company, and that person built the Boot Health Check program from scratch over about four months. Luna: And what was the result? Do we have a concrete number? Lucas: They published a case study — I'm paraphrasing — showing that within 90 days of launching the series for customers who had purchased in the previous 12 months, repeat purchase rate among that segment lifted by 18 percentage points. From around 12 percent to 30 percent. That's a 150 percent improvement on a base that was already past the initial purchase. Luna: That's huge. And it's not just timing — the content is genuinely useful. If I'm a framer and I get an email about toe wear, I'm thinking 'this brand understands my day.' Lucas: Absolutely. And they extend that into SMS too. They have an automated SMS flow that triggers when a customer's boot is around the 400-day mark — based on the date of purchase plus their job-type adjustment. The text is short: 'Your tread is probably getting thin. Here's a link to check your boots and a code for 15 percent off your next pair.' No links to blog posts or social. Just a direct utility. Luna: And 15 percent off — that's a solid incentive. Not too generous that it feels desperate, but enough to nudge someone who was on the fence. Lucas: Right. And they also have a loyalty program called 'Work Hard, Stay Hard.' It's not points-based in the typical way. Instead, you earn rewards for taking care of the product: you get a digital stamp for every boot cleaning you log via a photo upload, for every resole you purchase through their partner cobbler, for every referral. Accumulate stamps and you unlock things like a free pair of socks, a branded tool roll, or eventually a free pair of boots. Luna: So they're gamifying the maintenance cycle. That's smart because it keeps you engaged with the product even when you're not buying. And it ties directly to the physical lifespan. Lucas: Exactly. The resole program is particularly clever. Most work boot brands don't offer resoling because it's low margin and logistically annoying. But BRUNT partnered with a cobbler in New England and built a simple return process: you mail in your boots, they resole them in about two weeks, and you get them back. It costs the customer about 60 bucks, which is way cheaper than a new pair. But here's the retention play — when you get your boots resoled, you're effectively extending the relationship by another 18 months. And during that process, they upsell you on things like new insoles or laces. It's a low-cost, high-touch touchpoint. Luna: And it also builds trust. If I send my boots to a brand to get repaired, I'm implicitly trusting them with a tool I use every day. That's a strong signal. Lucas: Yeah. And it creates a natural referral loop. Construction workers talk on the job site. If one guy on a crew gets his boots resoled and tells the other guys, that's organic word of mouth. BRUNT actually tracks referrals by crew — they have a referral program where if you refer three members of your crew, you get a free pair. That's converting the job site into a micro-community. Luna: That's a really smart angle because in construction, there's a lot of peer influence. If your foreman wears BRUNT, you're likely to consider them. Lucas: Right. And the referral program is integrated into the loyalty program, so every referral earns stamps. One guy referred nine members of his crew in a single quarter, which earned him a free pair of boots and a BRUNT hoodie. That's a customer who is now evangelizing the brand in a very high-trust environment. Luna: So what's the broader lesson for retention marketers here? Because most brands aren't selling work boots. Lucas: I think the lesson is: if your product has a physical life cycle — and almost every physical product does — your messaging should match the aging curve of that product, not a calendar. Most brands send emails based on time intervals. 'It's been 30 days, here's a discount.' But a boot, a backpack, a mattress, a pair of jeans — they all degrade differently depending on usage. If you can collect even a little data on how your customers use the product, you can time your outreach to when they actually need something. Luna: And that data doesn't have to be from a sensor or a connected device. It can be a simple survey at six months, like BRUNT does. Lucas: Exactly. You don't need AI or IoT. You need a structured conversation with your customer at the right moment. BRUNT's entire retention engine runs on a few automated email sequences, a survey, and a SMS flow. Nothing technically exotic. What's exotic is the timing. Luna: And if today's episode made you think differently about how you time your own retention messages — maybe you're already thinking about your product's wear curve — Lucas: — then this is the kind of conversation that keeps the show going. We keep this podcast ad-free, and the only reason we can is because listeners who find value in it occasionally throw a few dollars our way at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. That's all lowercase, no pressure. If today sparked something you can use, that link is there. Luna: Yeah, it genuinely helps. And now back to BRUNT — one more thing I wanted to ask. They target tradespeople, which is a pretty specific demographic. How do they acquire those customers in the first place? Lucas: Mostly through trade-focused influencers on Instagram and TikTok — guys like 'The Tool Box Talk' or 'Electrician U' who review work gear. They also run ads in trade publications and on job-site forums. But increasingly, a big chunk of acquisition comes from the referral program itself. Once you get a crew using BRUNT, the network effect kicks in. New hires show up wearing whatever they had, and within a month they've been converted by the guys on site. Luna: So retention feeds acquisition. The loyalty program and the referral program become a single loop. Lucas: That's the ideal state for any retention marketing program. When your existing customers become your best sales channel — not through a formal ambassador program, but through natural word of mouth that you've deliberately architected. BRUNT's stamps and resole program and SMS triggers are all designed to keep the customer engaged long enough that they naturally talk about the brand. And that's the highest ltv customer there is. Luna: One thing I'm curious about: what happens when the boot finally wears out completely? After two or three years, the customer is back in the market. Does the Boot Health Check series eventually lead to a re-purchase? Lucas: It does. The series has a final email around month 18 or 24 — depending on job type — that basically says 'Your boots have served you well. Here's what we've learned about your wear patterns, and here's the model we recommend for your next pair.' It includes a link to their product quiz, which asks about job type, terrain, and foot shape. So the re-purchase path is personalized without being pushy. And because they've been sending useful content the whole time, the open rates on that final email are reportedly above 50 percent. Luna: Fifty percent open rate on a re-purchase email two years after the initial purchase? That's extraordinary for any retention campaign. Lucas: It is. And it shows that when you build a relationship around the product's actual lifecycle — not around a marketing calendar — the customer stays engaged even during the long gap between purchases. That's the takeaway I hope listeners hold onto. Luna: Yeah, it's a great reminder that retention isn't just about frequency. Sometimes it's about patience and relevance. Lucas: Exactly. Next episode, we're going to look at a brand in a completely different category — one that sells a product with a very short lifecycle — and see how they apply similar principles in reverse. Luna: Looking forward to it. Thanks, Lucas. Lucas: Thanks, Luna.