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1981's Mad Max 2: Road Warrior · Off The Shelf With Phil and Dave- A Movie Review Podcast

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Hello and welcome to Off the Shelf with Phil and Dave, the
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Movie talk Show. Each week when it takes a movie
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off, our show presents it to the other for discussion.
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And this week we've got coming off of Dave's Shelf 1980 Ones,
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Mad Max 2, The Road Warrior. Or is it the Road Warrior Mad
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Max 2? It actually just comes up as
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road warrior and I, yeah, because I've got a problem with
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that. That's a real question.
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Yeah, we'll hash that out. So here we are.
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David, I have to ask right off the bat, why is this movie on
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your? Show I know you have to ask.
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I also know you know the answer, but for those who don't, the
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listeners, we've covered Furiosa, we've covered Fury Rd.
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The reason why this is on my shelf is I really liked Fury
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Road and that was my introduction to the character
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sought in theatres. Yes, let's be clear about that.
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Available in the archives. So on one of our walks to
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Wellington, Beautiful day we went.
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They had the box set of the original and Fury Rd. had done
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enough to make me curious about the origins of this character.
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So it was a beautiful set, 1-2 and three and for a good price
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as always. Yeah, like great deals.
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So that's why it made it to myself.
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And it took me a while to watch them.
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This is my first viewing. Actually, Oh my God, Rd.
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Wellington has been closed for about 6 years.
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And at least I'd watched the original, I think, once, and
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then again for the podcast. And we did do Mad Max last
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month. So, yeah, I mean, you knew what
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was coming. I suspected certainly, if not
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now. When?
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That's the question. I mean, I think it's pretty
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relevant. It turned out to be.
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I will say that. I did not expect until I
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actually watched him. Like, yeah.
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Well, there's nothing more relevant in life really than the
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IMDb, so let's go to Old Faithful.
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In the post apocalyptic Australian wasteland, A cynical
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drifter agrees to help a small gasoline rich community get rid
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of a horde of bandits. Would you put these in the
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bandit category, David? Yeah, on the farthest part of
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the spectrum of bandits. Yeah, I guess they're pushing
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this undersells what happens. And I wouldn't say the other
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guys are gas rich. Yes, there have some.
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They've got some, but they don't have a lot.
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Enough to fit in a bus. School bus.
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Exactly. They get precious.
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So nobody has a lot. That's right.
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And is Max cynical? Yes, that part is true.
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Absolutely, buddy. The hell he's gone through.
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Now, after watching the first one, we probably covered this,
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but let's reiterate it. If you don't mind a recap, if
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you will. Yeah, exactly.
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Were you interested in watching this movie?
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Because. You'd watched the first one only
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Insomuch as I thought the first one was terrible, I really did
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not like. It.
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I don't, I don't. He thought it was terrible.
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It was slow and I thought it was eventful.
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OK, alright. And check the tape.
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But whatever I thought I was just unimpressed.
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Let's say Beyond badge was unimpressed.
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Yeah, it was a let down because of maybe the hype or maybe
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because you had seen Fury Rose. I really liked Fury Rd. more and
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I hated Furiosa. So this was oh, OK.
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Well, I think I'm kind of done, but contractually I had to watch
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this one and we had ended the last one by thinking, or at
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least in my case hoping that my thoughts of what the Mad Max
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character. Were.
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Were. Better defined by Part 2 than
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they were in Part 1. Because yeah, my issue in Part 1
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was I am. Who is.
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This doesn't feel like a Mad Max at all to me.
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I do remember you saying that and I knew that this was much
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better received from a from a critic because you pay attention
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perspective. I do.
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I just people have talked about Road Warrior being a really good
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movie. So I, I put some stock into
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that, sure. And obviously maybe they used
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the first one to get the ball rolling or maybe to get a budget
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could be to put this one. Highest grossing Australian
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movie in the history of time and Road Warrior.
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No, the first one. The first one.
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It was a huge, huge, huge success.
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Yeah. People liked it enough to come
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back, so they were curious, yes. Maybe you weren't.
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I was not, because I just didn't think that the first one gave me
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any reason to be excited. About it?
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Well, at the end of this episode I'm going to ask you if you are
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now excited or inclined to watch the next one.
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Now are you? Actually going to do that or is
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it gonna be like last week where you said we were going to do
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something? That's right, we forgot.
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Again, we didn't. Do it.
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I mean, I gave it away. Off David set up some.
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I know I did gave away the the biggest loser and the least
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biggest loser. From last So the game is kind
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of. Over, yeah, but you can figure
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out. Listen to episode, you can
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figure it out. You can read between the lines.
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Markings on the Facebook. Page Now if you can't read
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between the lines for this movie at the beginning, here we are
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again with another voiceover. Yeah, we're not going to make a
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meal out of it. No, but it is important to touch
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on. But more so the graphics, like
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everything that's being presented to us at the beginning
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to set up this movie, maybe for the audience to hasn't seen the
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first one or to give more of a detailed background of the world
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that has been already built back in 1970.
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Nine Yeah. What's crazy is that this is
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really not that long ago. So I thought it was interesting
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to open with a recap for a movie that was hyper successful.
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Yes, and it was a couple of years ago, right?
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I would expect something maybe like a in Blade Runner 2049,
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being that it was 40 years later or something, right?
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Like you might be inclined to sort of go, hey, here's who
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everybody. Is yeah, it's a heads.
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Up, you know, some sense of the world building because it is
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iterative like that. And so this I thought it
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interesting, but I think the best part of the movie is not
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the best. But I was immediately hooked by
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the way they set this up. It made what happened before
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better because it meant that I didn't have to watch.
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It it's true, like a rocky situation, not the Rocky was
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bad, but we really had to go through the 1st 10 minutes.
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Yeah, that's right. Come on.
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Just the old one. Especially for watching them,
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you know, back-to-back. I think we did one year.
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But I enjoyed it. I liked the voice itself that's
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delivering it. I found it interesting them
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showing some footage from what looked like Normandy.
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OK, like I don't more footage. From back when I'm using black
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and white, I mean, that doesn't necessarily mean that, but I
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think it was a good way to illustrate the world.
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Where we're at now, it's a post apocalyptic world, which is
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obviously was the first one as well.
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Yeah. Show some tanks, show some
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bombs. Yeah.
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What I think even right away is just the shot of Max in general
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watching, you know, the men we call Max.
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And he's standing there in the distance and you can kind of see
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Superimpose, the Gastown behind him, the smoke billowing up his
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silhouette. You're like, well, this is the
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character that I have in my head.
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Yeah. And I didn't really, even though
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the shot I believe is from the first one, it's the only shot of
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the movie or the first one that was like, oh, this is the
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character. Everything else didn't really
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deliver. And like you're saying with
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voice over talking about how the.
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Black. Fuel ran the world in wars were
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caused and and fought over it and what was left was no fuel.
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There was nothing. We were built in a House of
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straw. There was no action from leaders
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and the world crumbled. I mean, that's the world we're
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living in to a certain. Extent pretty close, yeah.
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And on the brink of it anyway, yeah, this movie ended up being
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more relevant than I anticipated.
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Certainly. Unfortunately, yeah.
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Exposes that reliance on gas. That certainly oil and whatever
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else, such a controlling thing. Yeah.
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So I thought it's a summarization.
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I thought really effective. You established the character,
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the name, even the look, and you don't have to watch anything.
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Else, and that brings me to a question, is the first movie
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necessary for, say, someone who wants to dive into this series,
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get to know the character? I would say not at all, not at
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all, not even a little bit. Wow.
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I don't think there's anything that happens in the first movie
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that makes this movie any better.
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Perhaps I feel like because we did watch the movie, we might be
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taking a little bit for granted. Like, for example, in the recap,
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we see his girlfriend. Effectively, if they're married,
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I'm not sure they're status. They're not anymore.
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They're in a situation. Yeah.
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And getting run over. I don't know if seeing that in
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this does enough to say ohhhhh, his wife was killed, I think.
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Who cares? First movie.
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Yeah, Yeah, I guess that's the. Argument I'm like because what
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they do in voice over they say Max lost everything over what
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we're. Seeing and that's.
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Enough, it reads. Max lost everything, left him a
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shell of a man. I mean, you might be.
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Right. So to me, that summarizes what
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that emotional moment was in the first one, which I didn't find
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particularly emotional because there was no real character
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depth or anything. Yeah, so I mean, that's for me.
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I just felt if I just come in on this one, I'm not lost at all.
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I think, right. I think I'm coming to defence of
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it because in a perfect world you need every movie that's in a
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you'd assume trilogy. You would assume so, but it's
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not always the case. I think about a movie like The
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Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2, and those movies are at least at
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their core, remakes. It's the second one, but if you
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never saw The Evil Dead, you could watch Evil Dead 2.
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You're fine and nothing is lost. It recaps a little bit.
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It's got a budget. It it's a little bit higher
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brow, let's say or not you're proud, but higher production
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value. But fundamentally nothing to me
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is gained beyond OHT. Look at where it was and where
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it is, but it's mostly technical.
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So on this one, I would say if I watched the first one, I would
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say, oh, this is that with a budget bigger and maybe arguably
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better. Two things I think it'd be
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interesting had the first movie been better is to this to be the
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first one and the other one to act as a prequel going George.
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Lucas on it. We saw what they did with the
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prequel and it sucked. Furiosa is the prequel to.
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Your. Road and I thought it was.
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I there are things you liked about that.
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You loved Hemsworth in that buddy.
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I thought his performance was really good, riveting, I think.
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But yeah, you certainly had some issues with it.
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Yeah. So I think.
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The way that structure is, if I were to think about it, I would
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probably drop the first one. I just, I don't think it really
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benefits, OK. I had a feeling.
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Yeah, yeah. But that's not to say it
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affected my appreciation of this, because I think Max is
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established well enough in just a couple of quick lines of
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dialogue. He doesn't do anything simple
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care. He doesn't say anything.
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You're living in a post apocalyptic world.
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I accept that everybody is cynical to a certain extent,
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like there's no reason for him to be.
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Yeah, bubbly, except for a character that we're gonna meet
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very soon. He seemed to have somewhat of
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good spirits in the film. Lifted would be a good term.
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But just before we get to that, as we get into this movie, I do
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like after all of that, the car driving with the camera right at
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the front, Phenomenal. It just gives you that little
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bit of a quick jolt that we got a little taste of in the first
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movie. The things that it did well
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briefly was that and we get into a quick chase sequence and
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introduce what we think is possibly this movie's main body.
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It's sort of presented as such. Wes, I believe his name is, who
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might be gay. Not that there's anything wrong
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with that with his blonde buddy on the back.
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Yeah, Golden Boy. Golden Boy says his name in the
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no. This is what I would call him
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and it's what this movie would call him I think if they wanted
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to. Did you notice when they're
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leaving like they give up on their moving on?
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It looked like a dummy on the back of the bike.
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Oh, I did not. Know that I don't know, maybe
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it's just me like I don't. Think that's a real person?
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Interesting because so much of this movie is practical.
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Because not exactly Furiosa and to a lesser extent Fury Rd.
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Yeah, it is all practical. There is no CGI, obviously.
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And what did you think of the body coming out of the transport
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truck after this little chase scene with the eyes bugged out?
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Like from a makeup perspective? OK, Yeah.
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Didn't really leave an impression on me.
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I have to say, just before we get too far in, I think this
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opening 7 minutes or whatever it is is an incredible oh good.
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I'm very much hooked into what was happening.
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I'm happy to hear that. From the you're saying the
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crashing in, I thought it was really good.
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I thought the introduction of this villain, I don't know
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anything about him obviously, but the look is impressive and
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it is engaging even if nothing comes of it.
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He reminded me of the Mohawk guy on the bus in Star Trek 4 with
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the ghetto blaster. I.
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Say. Screw yeah, Yeah.
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Yeah, I wish that song was in our last weeks.
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Movie there I think I would have the haircut was.
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Pretty similar and we get a couple odd streams again, one
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from Wes and then you have the arm coming up with the other
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vehicle. I just they love those things in
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these. Movies, Diaries, but it's.
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Yeah, why not? Why not?
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Makes it makes it interesting. Crazy world, why not have a
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little fun with? It and we find out that Max has
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a dog. He had a dog last movie, I
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thought. I don't remember the dog.
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Well, let's pretend we didn't know that.
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And I have to ask you, did you think the dog was gonna?
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Die I did not. Cause that's what we do here,
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Phil, it turns out. I was so happy that it was your
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movie. I know because I had an
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uncomfortable stretch. Of.
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Unconsciously picking movies. With dog death.
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With dog death. So I was happy that you
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hopefully unconsciously, yeah, grabbed this off the shelf.
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Well, I mean to keep on theme, but I it's not the why should
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you do it? Yeah.
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Well, that's good. Because I was getting concerned
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there for a little while and like I mentioned, we run into
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the gyro captain. Hmm.
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Played by. I wrote it down somewhere.
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Bruce Spence. Yeah.
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Did you recognize him? I know this isn't your game.
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I absolutely did not recognize him, but I absolutely loved his
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introduction. Hmm.
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Yeah, hiding in the sand like that.
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Yeah. I was the trailer for the
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Odyssey. Great film and coming out next
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year. OK, Christopher Nolan, you
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probably never see it, but there's a scene where everybody
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comes out of the ground like that.
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And I was like, that's a really good, effective thing.
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So the fact that this gyro craft is so impressively introduced
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and then so immediately a laughing.
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Stock chicken legs, man. He's wearing yellow for one, and
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they're thin legs. Yes, he's got quite a look.
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He has a way with the snakes. Sure, but what?
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Should I recognize him from him? Sorry.
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He played one of the trade characters in Phantom Menace.
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He was the blue one. Jesus.
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And when you look at him and you check out Phantom Menace, you
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can see that it's. Him from yellow legs to blue.
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Yeah, but he's got the makeup on.
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But that face is pretty distinctive.
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He was also. Like Sean Wayland.
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Yeah, I would say put him in that category.
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He was in Return of the King and Matrix series, OK, Revolutions,
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maybe the other ones, but so he's been in some big films.
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But he's, yeah, he's that guy. He's that guy.
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Sure, he's great. But yeah, the snake work I
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thought was really cool. Yeah, Max is.
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He's not. He's not unlike Tom Hardy,
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right? You cast this character because
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you cast this actor story because he can convey something
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that isn't otherwise verbalized. So Tom Hardy just needs to be.
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And you're like, yeah, I got a sense of who this guy is.
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And Gibson, at least at this juncture of his career, is,
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yeah, you've got enough charisma that still does.
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Just so you know. You sure you don't have
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charisma? You can hold up the screen, hold
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the frame. So whatever you're doing with
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your eyes, your body language, this and that, doesn't matter
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what you're saying, I acting. Do you think Tom Hardy spoke
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more in Fury Rd. than in Dunkirk?
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Cause he didn't say much in that either.
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Early enough. He prefers it gets paid less.
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Yeah, well, you wish you would talk less in Dark Knight.
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Rises or not at all. Not at all.
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A little bit. And with that charisma that Max
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has, he's able to extract some information from Gyro.
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Captain, I think, is actually what he's created.
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Yeah, he gets told all about the chunka, chunka, chunka.
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Chunka yeah, in the tankers and that's important cause everybody
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needs fuel. Natural gas, 10W30 diesel.
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Yeah, yeah, apparently that's what his car runs on.
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I think I don't. Know tough to say I don't I
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mean, I don't know how to gas. Guys, you know, I was in the
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business for a few years, so it's your world.
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I know all about it. It's expensive, that's all I
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know now, certainly. And they get themselves a nice
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little perch perch out, that perfect good one.
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I know I can count on you for those ones.
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And we get our first look of Gastown, yes, which is a little
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underwhelming if you compare it to Fury Road and Furiosa, just
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because of CGI, right? It's sure.
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This is bigger budgets. And yeah, it looked like Uncle
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Owen's place on Tatooine. What?
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I mean 1 little refinery. Maybe, yes, very small stakes.
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Yeah, but we have a lot of cards coming in and a lot of swarming.
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You've ever been swarmed, you ever been swatted, That's the
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thing. Neither.
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Neither. One thing I was curious about
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though, Phil, yes, is this town which has gas and they know they
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have gas. That's why they're there.
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Yeah. They have some of their guys
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leaving. I don't know where they going
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grocery shopping. I don't know for supplies, I
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don't like the odds knowing that these bandits are just ready to
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pounce on you and you're going out with no defence, a car
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that's made of chicken wire and to expect to come back alive.
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I don't know Port. Choice doesn't work out for
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them. No it doesn't.
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You have to check your history, but I think maybe you take a
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little too many rapey movies off.
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You know, I don't like to see breasts under those
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circumstances. No, it's nothing titillating
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about that, No. And I also don't like to see a
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man with butt cheek leather pants.
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There's a lot of that in this movie, so you're going to.
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Have to. Yeah, Wes, That's his look.
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Now, you went on record saying you didn't wear leather pants.
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I accuse you of wearing leather pants.
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Did. But if you did wear leather
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pants, would your cheeks be? Exposed I have a great ass so I
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might you. Might, I might I would consider
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it so you might go the way of the Wes.
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I might be the Yeah, it's it's for the others more than it is
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for. Me, I promise you.
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It's kind of funny to watch, though.
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I don't know why. I think he's the only one.
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I think others have it too. And possibly there is a lot of
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hockey equipment. I don't know if you noticed the
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shoulder pads and a lot of gym attire, like with the headbands.
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I love the makeup. Yeah, I love the look.
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I love the the art design, the costume design.
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Whoever did the costume was on this.
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Oscar that look of Wes I had never seen before this.
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I've never seen this movie before.
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Thank you for asking and I assumed as much but that
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character I know from weird science which I debated taking
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off the shelf this but I remember you going to put a.
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Pause talked about it. That's.
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Fine, but so seeing him in his element, let's say I was
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impressed, but I like the look of it.
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I think again, you're looking at a low budget, but you're also
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looking at post apocalypse, right?
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So I think it is a scavenging type of, you know, situation.
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So if that stuff existed in the world, you pick it up as you go
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and you exactly wear it, right. I think they had fun with it.
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Yeah. So don't think it's too far out
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of line. No.
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With the chicken wire card, it's like, what do we have available?
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Sure. To protect the windows.
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This is what we have. Let's go.
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No, I love all of it. I think just the butt cheek
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itself, it's choice. But again, it's captivating.
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Max, having the history that he has, didn't like what happened
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there. It's very similar to the first
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one where they chased down a couple and do more or less the
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exact same. Thing correct.
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And that's what starts the Road Warriors themselves tracking
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down the people that had raped and killed this person.
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And you know, this one, they both die, unfortunately, the
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first ones, I think they both survived.
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Yeah, that's they upped the ante.
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Like that's what you do in sequels, the up, the Annie and
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he takes David. That's the guys.
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Name. Yeah, he's still alive.
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Well, yeah, he's fading. He's fading and he's fading fast
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and he wants to go back to Gas Town because that's where he.
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Lives. Yeah.
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Dave's like, hey, just bring me home and I'll get you some gas
20:26
and that's all. This whole economy is built on a
20:29
good deal. You give me gas, I'll go.
20:30
So that's what Max wants. Max commits, unfortunately, when
20:35
they get to the refinery. What or is he welcomed?
20:39
I wouldn't say necessarily. I don't think there were arms
20:43
that were open. No, but he's got him on his back
20:45
so he shows he's at least a not. Exactly right.
20:49
Terrible person. He's not a bandit.
20:51
That's right. But the deal was with David,
20:53
unfortunately. Yet finds out David is dead.
20:55
Max just says. Look, I just need the gas.
20:57
I'm out of here. And they want him for a little
21:00
more. They want to ask him more
21:01
questions. He doesn't want it.
21:02
Just give me the gas and they won't give it.
21:04
To him, no Zetas. Like who's the leader?
21:06
Yes, look like Mick Jagger a little bit.
21:08
A blonde Mick Jagger. See.
21:10
Look it up again. Maybe this is Mick Jagger.
21:12
It was not. It was not.
21:13
No, I wasn't even close. And the kid in this movie was
21:17
Willow? No, I just thought of Willow
21:20
when I saw the kid. OK, I don't know.
21:22
Well, Willow, I think. I don't know.
21:24
I've never seen that movie. You ever seen Willow?
21:26
No. What's wrong with you?
21:28
I don't like how old are you? You were turning.
21:31
By the way, it's still your birthday weekend.
21:34
That age. I'm not gonna say your age on
21:36
live radio here. And you haven't seen Willow?
21:40
Never. I don't remember anything about
21:41
it. I think it's a little person
21:43
though. Warwick Davis.
21:44
Warwick Davis? Yeah, she work as well.
21:46
Yeah. So just a really short person
21:49
this is. This is a kid.
21:50
Yes, I'm just going based on the.
21:51
Haircut. So you're OK?
21:54
It's a weak linkage. I would.
21:56
Say check the prostate. You think a little caveman kid?
22:01
Yeah, definitely looks a little feral.
22:03
I would say he's, yeah, I think so.
22:07
Feral Kid, that's how he's casting that.
22:09
Because he is, yeah. He's got boomerang that's put a
22:12
pin in that. That's Boomerang is going to go
22:16
into somebody twice and it's not going to be Carl Winslow
22:19
throwing at this time, no. Jesus, wow, another Australian
22:23
film. They love their boomerangs
22:25
there. You go.
22:25
They invented it. And now we get the introduction,
22:28
my friend of the actual villain. Yeah, Wes's boss.
22:34
That's right. Humongous Lord.
22:36
Humongous. Humongous.
22:37
I think it's called the Humongous, yeah.
22:39
Looks like Jason. Yeah, I love this.
22:41
Look, it's great. And again, having never seen
22:44
this movie, there was a wrestler probably around this time called
22:47
Lord Humongous, and I think it might have even.
22:49
Been this guy, maybe? Because he was all jacked up in
22:51
the same Jason mask or like based on this guy and definitely
22:54
based. That's obvious, but I thought
22:56
like actually might be the same actor because he was all jacked
23:00
up when I saw him in this. Like that looks exactly like the
23:02
guy that I used to watch wrestle very briefly in that time frame.
23:05
Lord Humongous. It's not only the mask is when
23:07
you look at the back of his. Head.
23:09
He's got a thing. Yeah, like.
23:10
Barely any hair and like the scars and like I I the timing.
23:14
Yeah it is. And I think it's a good 1-2
23:17
punch with him and Wes. 2 very distinct bad guys, similar to
23:20
the first one. Yeah.
23:22
But these words are amped up a little.
23:23
Bit The thing is, for these two in relationship, the Knight
23:27
Rider was never something I felt threatened.
23:31
By like you, not him. Right.
23:32
And like that whole, even any of them never really felt any
23:35
intimidation. Yeah, not even Bradley Cooper.
23:39
But these two guys, Wes and Humongous, I think, deliver at
23:43
least a level of of an imposing figure and a threat that you can
23:49
believe something bad could happen or that they're
23:51
villainous enough to take it. Yeah, to that degree.
23:54
Whereas the night right there. That's so much.
23:56
Just didn't really struck me that.
23:57
Way, ironically, the humongous is actually being quite
24:01
reasonable here with his demands, at least how he's
24:06
rejecting it. And I wrote that down that he is
24:10
being reasonable. 10 seconds later or 15 seconds or a minute
24:14
later, someone in Gastown says he's being reasonable.
24:18
I'm like, wow, that's what I said right here on the notes.
24:23
But yeah, I really like where this movie has started.
24:26
I like where it's heading. I like the bad guys.
24:28
I like the getups. I'm starting to see why people
24:32
might enjoy this movie, like why it's well received.
24:36
OK, just already at this point. Yeah, yeah, we're not that far
24:39
into it. We've already had a little bit
24:40
of death and a little bit of raping, a little bit of nudity.
24:43
God, I'll put it that way. I can see why you might be
24:48
excited by that. And the boomerang taking care of
24:50
a couple of fingers. Oh, yes, The the discovery.
24:53
Let's say the boomerang is not just a that's a play toy sharp.
24:57
Well, first. It eliminates Blondie like right
25:00
in the skull, and then the guy you're talking about tries to
25:04
catch it. About two minutes later.
25:06
I got it. I got it.
25:08
And takes his fingers like you don't got it.
25:11
You just two minutes ago you saw it wedged in this guy's head.
25:15
I'm like, come on, bad call. That guy made a bad call.
25:18
Yeah, the boomerangs did some damage for sure, Pretty boy, as
25:21
you said, but at least that's quick.
25:23
And what happens when Humongous shows up, the great shot as it
25:26
pulls up into frame is the reveal of two.
25:30
Oh, yes. I mean, I think in Fury Rd.
25:32
I think they called them blood bags.
25:33
Yeah. But having them strapped to the
25:35
front of the car, I think elevates that threat that we
25:39
just talked about, where the baddies really feel pretty bad.
25:44
Right. And a great visual, I thought.
25:46
Yeah, there was like. 1/2 a dozen at least hostages.
25:49
And that's the deal. Here's your hostages back.
25:52
Yeah, give us the gas and we'll give you safe passage.
25:55
One day to decide. Very reasonable.
25:57
Exactly. This is what I'm saying, Phil,
25:59
But I don't think they like the deal and the humongous.
26:03
I mean, he is a good leader. I want to say that right now.
26:06
I think this again. Is a good structure.
26:09
Here's org. Structure.
26:11
Exactly. And while he's trying to make
26:13
this deal, he's comforting Wes. Truth.
26:17
Because he lost his boy toy. I don't know.
26:20
I don't know if the relationship, it doesn't matter,
26:22
but I don't know what it is. But these movies, just their
26:27
reactions and some sounds that come out of them is just funny.
26:32
Very big performances, big wide eyes, screams, contorted faces,
26:36
right? A little extreme on all levels
26:38
for sure for. Sure, I enjoyed that that well,
26:40
but. It wasn't that guy.
26:42
He's emotional, yeah. He is and he brings that.
26:44
He brings that to the table. Yeah, that's why you want him as
26:46
your number. Two well might get him into a
26:48
little trouble little later on. Just got a temper.
26:52
So the group at Gas Town wrestle with this choice.
26:56
Hmm, like last week. Yeah, yeah.
26:59
Do you hunker down? Yeah, just protect.
27:01
And. And Max explains that he's
27:04
willing to. Help.
27:05
Just needs the gas. Because he knows where the Mack
27:08
truck. Is that's it?
27:09
So I've got a rig that can take care of you.
27:12
Give me some diesel. Just give me some diesel.
27:14
And he walks it back. We watch him kind of travel with
27:17
his little, you know, his Jerry cans.
27:19
Yeah. And finds the gyro captain who's
27:22
who he basically handcuffed back where he had his little perch
27:26
there. Right?
27:27
Like your guy. OK, I'll wait.
27:30
He's not treating him very well. He didn't even let him have any
27:32
dog food. He just got the little bit at
27:34
the bottom there. I know.
27:35
Like, come on here. It's good stuff.
27:36
Yeah. So that I thought was visually.
27:39
Pleasing. It's obviously not a really like
27:41
exciting scene, but in terms of the shots and the frames and
27:44
this and that I thought was really compelling.
27:46
And we recognize that Gyro Captain can take his machine, if
27:51
you will, to Gastown and and and the rig can can go back with
27:55
Max. Well, I mean, Max told him to
27:57
just go away like you're on your own.
28:00
And I realized, well, he can't really go with Max anyways,
28:02
because who's going to fly the chopper?
28:04
He's not gonna just leave it there.
28:05
This is like, it's all the rage, man.
28:08
Everybody loves it. Yeah, even Arnold.
28:10
Get to the choppa. Everybody wants it, Doesn't want
28:12
anybody touch it. So I thought that was a little.
28:14
Bit strange it's the most advanced piece of technology in
28:17
the movie. Realise everything else is on
28:19
the road and accessible right? If you're able to get an angle.
28:23
Exactly. That is, I think it adds like a
28:25
total level of interest in this movie 100%.
28:27
Now, like any Mad Max movie, you're not going to travel
28:32
anywhere easily without some trouble along the way.
28:36
Chicanery. He's driving the truck.
28:41
Just little things I like about this movie.
28:43
One guy just gets crushed by a car.
28:45
If you notice that I just. They do it really well.
28:47
Yeah. And Mr. Humongous.
28:49
Is it Mr. Humongous? The Mr. The.
28:52
Is revealed that he has a really nice pistol.
28:55
Did you see that? It would not be a reference of
28:57
it. Oh yeah.
28:58
And he shoots the truck. I think he hits the radiator.
29:01
OK. Do you know where that is?
29:02
It's at the front. Smoke comes.
29:04
Up. OK, everybody knows.
29:05
Just checking. But fortunately, he's able to
29:08
get the truck to the destination, back to gas.
29:11
Yeah. And that's the deal.
29:12
Here's your truck. Give me the give me the gas,
29:15
diesel, whatever you want to call it.
29:17
We're done. But Zeta wants him to put the
29:20
pressure. He doesn't pressure pressure to
29:23
drive the truck because he's only one that has a license.
29:25
That's it apparently. He's got a G2.
29:28
Well, I think you need a special one for the Mac truck.
29:30
When people used to talk about Mac trucks, I didn't realize it
29:33
was like brand. It's like the Kleenex of trucks.
29:36
I'm like, oh, OK, that makes sense.
29:40
Be that which it may, but Humongous is not happy.
29:43
No, he's yeah, the deal is yeah. Like this is his whole thing
29:47
now, his deal, and now you've pissed me off and now he's being
29:50
unreasonable. Like he really didn't
29:52
appreciate. This very vengeful, very upset,
29:54
but beautifully shot in the rain.
29:57
It doesn't rain often from. That's the impression I get.
29:59
Don't get that impression at all.
30:00
Yes, you're right here. Yeah, I get the fires going.
30:03
I think he's torched somebody at this point.
30:06
Yeah, it's not pretty, but it's a beautiful imagery.
30:08
Yeah, I think it's great and it allows him to up the ante, gives
30:13
them a reason to attack effectively, and they're still
30:17
trying to convince Max to help them fight.
30:20
Is that A says some things that he might not be able to take
30:22
back? He might burn that bridge.
30:24
Yeah, could be. Tell me about him.
30:26
No, he didn't. It's fine.
30:29
All said and done, he lets him go and he indicates that he's an
30:32
honorable man because he's stuck with the deal.
30:34
That's a big thing in these types of films is there's not
30:37
much honor left. So when it does come along and
30:40
you have some honor, you can appreciate someone else's honor
30:43
because there's not a lot your honor.
30:45
Well, I think it does say in his convincing or attempt to
30:49
convince Max. I do think he says some
30:51
interesting things by suggesting that Max is not alone, right?
30:55
Max thinks is presenting as. Lone wolf, kind of.
30:59
Guy, yeah, I don't need this. And he just keeps saying we're
31:01
all scavengers, we've all lost family, we've all lost our
31:03
lives, we've all lost. You're no better, no different.
31:06
You're not special. Well, I think he is, but he's
31:08
not wrong. Yeah, generally.
31:09
You have a responsibility if you choose to, but don't think that
31:13
you're somehow above us or anything else.
31:15
And I think that right or wrong is some of the messaging of or
31:20
at least lost in some of this. Is that community feeling right?
31:23
Max is this lone wolf guy. But every time he's alone, bad
31:27
things happen. You don't want to be around.
31:29
This guy, because this fucking guy in the last movie.
31:32
This is one of my issues with the first movie, which was the
31:35
Road Warriors. They're the best of the best or
31:38
whatever. And they all died relatively
31:41
easily. He was immediately injured, his
31:43
leg was broken, bloodied and battered.
31:45
Yeah, he still struggles with that.
31:46
He's a. Little bit of a limp, sure, but
31:49
now it's a new movie and he has another fight with somebody and
31:53
he's like, all I want is the gas.
31:55
And reluctantly they give him. They say, OK, you're fine,
31:57
you're not doing it. Max is on his known for about 6
32:00
fucking minutes. Ohhhhh yeah, yeah.
32:03
And even. And is blown up.
32:05
Yeah, rolled over, destroyed and beaten by the bad guys, just as
32:08
in the first movie. Yeah, that's why I don't think
32:10
it matters, because it's the same thing.
32:12
Super quick. Yeah, I was expecting a longer.
32:15
He got out of the gas town and was immediately swarmed and
32:19
swatted and beat up and so he's basically left for dead.
32:24
Yeah, I think Wes really should have double checked on that.
32:27
Just saying. Yes, Sir, You know we're good.
32:30
Yeah, the dog is dead. We assume that Max is.
32:33
Did a big blow up. I mean I.
32:34
Yeah, I think it's all shot well.
32:35
I think it's a great scene. I think it's just portraying
32:37
that man, No one is safe from this, not even the great Max,
32:41
because I know you had some real issues in the first one.
32:43
When Goose. Yeah.
32:45
He avoided death and then 6 seconds later he was dead.
32:48
Anyways. I didn't mind it.
32:50
I went on a different angle on it to why they did that little
32:53
misdirection, which I appreciate.
32:55
I just think, like, if you're going to build them up, do
32:59
better by him, they're going to have a scene that lasts a few
33:02
minutes in a fairly short movie about will he or won't he stay?
33:07
You got to stay. You gotta stay.
33:08
You see the baby. And he's back 2 minutes later.
33:10
And then he. Leaves and you're like OK, well
33:12
this is the rift and then the next act will be how that rift
33:15
gets repaired. In fact, 8 seconds later he's
33:18
left for dead. And then a minute and 1/2 or two
33:20
minutes or 5 minutes after that, he's back at the refinery with
33:24
the cause. Gyro Captain saved him, flew him
33:26
in and flew him back. Good guy.
33:28
So it just, it's like you're creating drama, but you're
33:31
puncturing that drama so quickly that it's like, well, why even
33:33
bother then? Why not just let him be?
33:36
Just say yes at the beginning because nothing is changing in
33:38
between. That's dramatic, that's
33:40
compelling, that is interesting, that is unique from a
33:44
storytelling perspective or even a filmmaking.
33:46
There's no shots like, just nothing about this other than a
33:48
nice practical effect of a car rolling and all.
33:50
That that's what I'm talking about, right?
33:52
You just answered your own question.
33:53
All that is to say, he's back in Gastown, the story short, beaten
33:57
down, battered. He kind of looks like French
34:00
Stewart with that one eye. Now.
34:02
I thought that was a character choice in Third Rock from the
34:05
Sun. Yes.
34:06
Yeah, but it's a birth defect. It's something else cause he's
34:11
always like that swirly. I don't think he has to be.
34:14
I've seen him open them up, but I guess I don't have eyes.
34:16
Yeah, there's like a muscle issue and it could be in there.
34:20
But now he wants to drive. You have a problem with that?
34:23
Because he didn't want it before.
34:24
He doesn't really give us a reason why he wants to do it
34:26
now. These are my issues man.
34:27
Maybe because he doesn't have vehicles like, well, at least I
34:29
get to. Drive maybe?
34:31
Everything about this movie that I don't like exists in this 5 or
34:35
6 * 6 minutes. OK, None of these choices make
34:37
any sense. And I like to recognize that
34:42
choices are made in a movie and live in that world, and it's
34:45
fine. And you have to accept certain
34:46
things to be. Yeah.
34:47
But when you're throwing the foundation of your movie into
34:52
this moment, is he or is he not going to stay?
34:54
Against, you're putting a lot of not talking to.
34:56
That it's the choice. It's the whole rest of the movie
34:58
is predicated on this decision. And we just rolls out of bed,
35:02
barely alive and says, I'll do it.
35:06
What is the motivating factor? What changed your mind?
35:09
Is it a suicide mission? Are you broken down?
35:11
You've lost charger your car, your.
35:13
Dog was the Dodge Charger. Yeah, OK.
35:15
You're in a position of maybe it's over and now you're
35:18
choosing to do the rig cause it's a suicide mission.
35:21
OK that makes sense to me. You've lost everything now.
35:24
Yeah, but it's not really. Portrayed, but it's not conveyed
35:26
at all, and it doesn't lose anything later.
35:29
Yeah, I I see it more now. I want characters to mean
35:33
something, even if they're just there for being.
35:35
There. Yeah.
35:36
From a storytelling perspective, I think you're right.
35:39
I think what I latched on to where my brain went was the fact
35:44
that anything could happen. It doesn't matter your Mad Max,
35:47
you can still get run off the road.
35:48
We saw in the first movie struggles with the same thing.
35:51
So that might be his weakness as a storyteller.
35:54
I think partly because this movie does what the first one
35:57
does better than the first one. This sticks out more as lazy,
36:01
Yeah. Whereas certain elements of the
36:02
first one, I thought, well, these are choices that are being
36:04
made that make sense. Max loses his wife and family,
36:06
then like OHT, that motivates. When Goose dies, that motivates.
36:11
Yeah, there's no motivation here.
36:20
They self destruct like the Enterprise in Star Trek 3
36:24
Gastown. Yeah, they commit.
36:27
They're yeah, they're it. We're out, We're going to blow
36:28
it up and we're going to take the rig and we're going to go.
36:31
Max is going to drive it. That's what he said.
36:33
Healthy, can't see out of one eye.
36:35
He's going to be the linchpin of the whole.
36:37
Thing that's how bad of a driver Zeta is.
36:40
Farsighted. I don't know.
36:42
Don't wear glasses you know. It's post op, post op post
36:45
optic. It's post op.
36:48
It's post clock. It's post apocalyptic.
36:53
There. I got it.
36:54
Nailed it. Yeah.
36:55
It took how many takes? At least 5 and it wasn't pretty.
36:59
And this is Mad Max, like I think this is.
37:03
Fury Rd. It's the Fury Rd. portion of
37:05
the. Film and it's a.
37:06
Good chunk of them it's about 28 minutes.
37:08
And I have to tell it as a blanket statement.
37:10
I was pretty impressed with this being from 1981, the effects are
37:16
using, the lack of CGI, everything.
37:18
But maybe one thing that I didn't really necessarily like
37:21
in this, but I was really impressed.
37:24
Yeah, it's really, really great filmmaking.
37:26
Yeah, this is where he shines again, storytelling wise.
37:29
Some shortcomings there, but maybe he's like, I, I want to
37:33
get to this now. He's definitely a.
37:34
Visionary in that capacity and like you're saying using the.
37:37
Landscape for its full potential, yeah, and makes this
37:41
job a little bit. Easier total, Sure.
37:43
Yeah. And the cars are unique in their
37:44
looks and the characters are unique in their looks, and the
37:48
attacks are pretty compelling different.
37:51
Types of vehicles, different methods they're climbing on to
37:54
the truck. Yeah, the barbed wire around the
37:56
rig is kind of a fun thing. Didn't pan out, you know, But
38:01
yeah, so I just thought, like, there's enough variety in the
38:04
vehicles and then the types of attacks and deaths and whatever
38:07
else that occur to keep it fresh.
38:09
And not unlike Fury Road, again you're watching that for most of
38:13
the movie is wow this is really cool and I felt the same vibes
38:17
from this one for sure. Yeah, pacing much better in this
38:20
movie overall. Yeah, almost to a fault, some
38:23
would say. Yeah, too fast.
38:25
I love the firework in this movie.
38:26
I know we've already seen a lot of it back at Gastown.
38:29
That's a good defence system. I think that is all.
38:32
Well done with people on fire burning.
38:35
I think even Gyro Captain drops a fire bomb.
38:39
Good move. Yeah.
38:40
Do you have anything that sort of stands out in terms of the
38:42
attacks? Do you have anything particular
38:44
that you enjoyed? Speaking of fire, when the guy's
38:46
hands were on fire and he wasn't really taking it that serious.
38:49
No. I don't know, I.
38:51
Was struck me as odd. It was.
38:53
I was really just kind of like, yeah, what?
38:55
But I liked it from a character perspective.
38:57
Sure, sure. He was obviously in love with
38:59
whomever fell off the. Was he wasn't sure.
39:01
Look pretty sad he tried to save her.
39:03
Afterward, looking to be sad regardless by default.
39:06
You don't wanna lose those ones. Yeah, but no, this is where we
39:10
do get some death scenes, some characters.
39:12
Yeah, I would say most, yeah, Most of them even.
39:15
Yeah, Yeah. Goes down.
39:16
Yeah. It's an arrow to the back.
39:18
I think that arrow work in this, which I appreciate.
39:20
It yeah, not a lot available, no.
39:22
Everyone have a nice pistol like humongous there.
39:26
It's true. One thing I do want to note,
39:27
there's special features on the 4K.
39:29
OK? I didn't purposely watch them.
39:31
It ran afterwards, OK. And I was up getting a coffee or
39:34
cookies, grilled cheese or something.
39:36
Oreos. And if you recall, the one
39:39
scene, I'm not sure exactly where it was, might have been
39:40
actually much earlier, but the guy gets launched into the air
39:46
and flips over. That stunt guy was injured.
39:50
No shit. Yeah, for real.
39:51
But what was injured was a piece of something that was in his
39:56
body from a previous injury, and that was the only thing that
39:59
broke. Wow.
40:00
Piece of metal that he had from a previous.
40:03
Exactly. Interesting.
40:05
Yeah, that flip. I don't know.
40:06
I would have thought that would have been a dummy.
40:08
I didn't like one right? Like I would have thought that
40:11
just because of the size and the scope of it, it's hard to get
40:14
the weight right. I guess it totally is.
40:16
You can always tell. It, but at least part of it was.
40:19
Legit crazy. I'm not surprised because of the
40:21
nature of this filmmaker and the way that these movies are done,
40:23
but that's very impressive to. Me and you can't tell like you
40:27
would have the guy that fell off that got the hook in.
40:29
Yeah. And he gets lit up with fire.
40:31
Like they shoot in a way where like, clearly it's not anything
40:34
but. It's the magic of movies.
40:35
Yeah, that kind of stuff. It's part of why I love horror
40:38
movies so much is that is how you can convince me that this
40:41
person is dying when I know they're not.
40:43
Dying, and this has an element of that.
40:45
Yeah, it's obviously a little more bombastic than a horror
40:47
movie, but the principles are still the same.
40:49
Make me believe what is happening is happening.
40:51
And we have like a biker just gets this, turns the wrong way
40:55
and gets run over. Gets caught in the wheels with
40:57
all these different kind of ways.
40:58
It's really evocative and it goes a good pace.
41:01
The only challenge I have when things like this is who's who,
41:05
and I thought they did a pretty good job of when Zeta goes, he
41:09
gets a moment to acknowledge, let's say, that he was.
41:12
Dispatched. Yeah, sometimes that doesn't.
41:14
Happen. Yeah, like it would be too fast,
41:16
the camera works too quick, quick edits, whatever.
41:17
You earned it and it's not later and you're like oh, I guess they
41:20
died too or whomever. I didn't.
41:22
See it? I didn't check it off.
41:23
Oh wait, OK, he works a little. Bit, you know, some of the
41:25
geography gets a little messed up, right?
41:26
But I thought this movie holds to that very well.
41:28
And everybody that sort of matters, let's say, in terms of
41:31
the plotting, has a moment to at least acknowledge they lived or
41:34
they died. And I thought that was
41:35
important. Did you know herpes guy died?
41:37
Yeah, well, you know, I'm talking about the guy had the
41:39
cold lower right there. I don't know, you know, called
41:43
Murphy's guy. OK.
41:44
But the question I have for you, because I have questions, yes,
41:47
is Wes. Yeah.
41:49
We think has perished. Here we watch him basically get.
41:53
Yeah, killed. Somewhat underwhelming, sure,
41:55
but he comes back to life. You stuck.
41:58
There in the grill of the car, Yeah, Indiana Jones and.
42:01
It can happen. Sure, it's good enough for Andy.
42:04
Yes. Also 81 actually rated all.
42:05
Star now I'm OK with him being that's what movies do they of
42:09
course they're back. That's not over anticlimax.
42:12
I don't understand, Mr. Humongous, his reasoning for the
42:17
collision course. I don't know with the Mack
42:19
truck. You got options, buddy.
42:21
You're not gonna win that one. No.
42:23
And you're a smart guy. You're the leader of this group.
42:25
You've got this exact orchestrated.
42:27
He's displayed a lot of intelligence.
42:30
He's a good leader. Yeah, I honestly think he is.
42:32
I don't. And it's not reasonable.
42:34
Yeah, little more than Hemsworth, I think.
42:35
Yeah, but I don't get his logic to that move.
42:40
Like, I like how he hits Wes. I mean, that's cool, but he
42:43
knows the truck is there. Yeah.
42:44
What's your end? Game.
42:45
Yeah, I don't really understand. It's a note that I have as well.
42:48
It's a cataclysm. It blows up.
42:50
It's cool thing, it's nice to look at, but it just doesn't
42:52
make sense. You're not doing that.
42:53
Yeah, and why storytelling, that's why.
42:55
If at the end of the day, you want to end your movie, or at
42:59
least end the sort of battle, if you will, with something so
43:02
implausible and silly, those are the kinds of things like I
43:04
mentioned earlier. It's like, why are you doing
43:06
this? If you want to get to the end,
43:08
there's ways to get there that makes sense.
43:10
This didn't make sense other than just spectacle, and they're
43:13
not. The rest of the movie has some
43:15
spectacle in it, but it's grounded enough to make it
43:17
reasonable, whereas these kinds of choices don't.
43:20
And so I like the visual of it, but it leaves me really
43:25
questioning why any of it is happening, particularly at the.
43:28
End. I think that's one thing he was
43:29
able to finally be successful at.
43:31
Injury Rd. You might be right actually.
43:33
I don't think you'd have to listen to it.
43:35
It is in the archives, Yeah. I don't think we question any of
43:38
what we've questioned in any of other of these movies.
43:41
I think you're right. I think it's probably at least
43:43
so far it is the best executed version.
43:46
Of these movies, however, I think the end end, if you're not
43:51
thinking about sequels or any of that, like this movie standing
43:54
alone, of course, I think they do end it successfully with
43:59
there being no gas in this truck being a misdirection because I
44:03
like misdirections. I said it earlier, I'm going to
44:05
stand by it and they have the gas and the other little
44:09
vehicles that no one was paying attention to because you know,
44:13
Bannons aren't necessarily the smartest guys.
44:16
Humongous is, but who knows, you know?
44:19
The first watch and it's my own fault probably, but there's a
44:24
way at the end. I read it originally just
44:27
instinctively, maybe not originally not to its end, but
44:30
in the moment I didn't catch that the gas was in the cars and
44:35
I just saw the dirt, you know, the the sand coming out of the
44:40
shaker and I thought to myself it was all for nothing.
44:44
So I actually looked at it more from an existential like after
44:48
all the death, after all the, you know, blew up the refinery,
44:51
you did all the. Things you'd like that one I.
44:53
Did I thought, oh what a bold choice.
44:56
Yeah, that you liked. And then Max is almost like, I
44:58
thought, like, almost chuckling to himself, like, after all
45:01
that, and he's sort of standing there.
45:03
I don't know that I would have liked that ending better.
45:05
I don't want to suggest that. But for a moment I was like,
45:08
that's bold. That's good for you, though,
45:09
because you get to feel. That, yeah.
45:11
And then also. Be but actually get what it
45:13
really should be. Yeah.
45:14
So yeah, that's a win. For I got to feel their
45:16
misdirection, but also got a moment of, yeah, interesting,
45:19
and then obviously backtracked. But what are your thoughts on
45:22
the sort of closing voiceover? You know, we had a little bit at
45:24
the beginning of the ending. Here.
45:25
Yeah, that's where this movie loses all credibility.
45:28
Talk right here. Goodness.
45:29
Well, I've loved the Gyro Captain.
45:31
We didn't give him his due. For his name, you know, right?
45:36
When I watched the first time when he went down, yeah, I
45:39
thought to myself, there's no way he survived that, just the
45:42
way it looked. Why should the second time,
45:44
like, OK, no, there's room to say, OK, you made it and this is
45:48
still flyable. Sure.
45:49
So I ended up being OK with that.
45:51
My real issue is, is I didn't see him as a leader.
45:56
He's a great guy to have a hype man.
45:58
He's a good hype man, absolutely.
46:00
And he'll save you when you need him.
46:02
He's Johnny on the spot. He's.
46:04
Help them. Yeah, Well, get more credit than
46:07
that. But in the voice over at the
46:09
end, he becomes the leader. They acknowledgement that he
46:13
takes over for Zeta and acts. Basically, and I really don't
46:17
see that in his character. And then after that we have the
46:20
kid who's is the voice over real.
46:23
Yeah, yeah, he eventually does become the leader, and I'm
46:26
perfectly fine with that. So he's got leadership.
46:29
Material he does well, we don't. Know got the boomerang?
46:32
And everybody exactly. But the interim, they don't.
46:37
But I don't buy. Yeah, that word came to me
46:39
finally. I don't see it.
46:41
I guess it's not a big deal like.
46:43
Just do you railed the whole. Movie well.
46:44
You said it, I mean. Like like you said earlier, it's
46:47
just kind of sticking something together to make something try
46:49
to work. But whatever.
46:50
I mean, we're never going to see Max again.
46:52
Doesn't matter. Yeah.
46:53
I thought that was interesting and I wondered, we talked about
46:55
this, you know, movies are made in the vacuum.
46:58
There's certain movies that, you know, are built for a sequel.
47:01
Yeah, that's designed that way or they acknowledge certainly in
47:03
the later years once we get to sort of mid to late 80s.
47:06
That's all planned out. Yeah, certainly part because
47:09
it's based on a larger, you know that there's other books, so you
47:11
can kind of assume it. But in the late 80s you kind of
47:13
recognize movies are made more for sequel potential, let's say.
47:17
Yeah. And in this early days, I
47:20
believe fully that the original Mad Max was made in a vacuum.
47:24
This sequel based on success was like, oh, we'll do this.
47:28
I wonder if because the next one comes out for many years, I
47:33
think 5 or 6 years. Which makes you think maybe they
47:35
didn't have an original. Plan for it and the new story.
47:38
When they say this at, you know, we never saw Max again and this
47:41
and that, you get the impression that this is the end of it.
47:44
And for me, because the first movie doesn't seem to matter in
47:47
terms of my appreciation of the second one, it's almost like,
47:49
well, this is its standalone story and I'm fine with that.
47:53
Now, when you watch it, you obviously know that there's a
47:56
third one at some point. Do you feel like this movie
47:59
leaves it open-ended enough to warrant the sequel, or are you
48:02
thinking at least at first watch?
48:04
If it ends, I'm fine. Like it makes sense to me.
48:07
Well, it reminded me of Friday the 13th, when you leave it and
48:11
you have to fix it. Yeah, I think you can say that
48:14
like we never. I never saw Mad Max again,
48:16
because maybe he didn't. Sure, Australia's pretty big.
48:20
You know, first hand, I've been there.
48:21
Yeah. Hotel room anyway.
48:23
Yeah. So.
48:24
I got the impression that this was going to be it.
48:27
Yeah, I think it does stand alone as a movie without the
48:31
first one, which out the third one.
48:32
However, because I've enjoyed this movie, this character, like
48:37
I'll watch another one knowing in the back of your mind that
48:41
we've already peaked and that's the problem.
48:44
It'll be different. Thunderdome.
48:45
Sure. But I I'm pretty sure.
48:47
Have you seen it? No.
48:49
OK. But from the rumblings
48:52
scuttlebutt and I'm meeting is that this is it.
48:56
Road Warrior is like the Mad Max movie.
48:59
I mean, certainly better than the first one.
49:01
Certainly. Yeah.
49:02
And I'd be curious cause the next movie Gibson is in his,
49:05
yeah, full Gibson mode, right? Like at this point, he's still
49:08
very young. One question if they abandon the
49:11
character a little bit and just come up like Thunderdome seems
49:13
like a weird name like they're. I don't know.
49:16
You're not. It's not.
49:17
It's you're beyond Thunderdome. You're not even at the Thunder.
49:20
You're beyond. I just have a feeling the
49:22
setting of it isn't going to be what I necessarily want, but
49:26
we'll see. I'll bring it off.
49:27
Sounds like you've read too much already.
49:29
Maybe probably another like a month or two.
49:32
It'll come off spoiler. Well, that's your tease.
49:34
Yeah, give me your tease for what we have coming out next
49:38
week. Well, I mentioned earlier that
49:41
we were on the brink, still are. And I think I'm going to take a
49:44
movie off the shelf that best represents being on the brink.
49:48
Is it with a money truck? Brinks, Brinks.
49:51
Now it's not OK, but you know it.
49:54
It fits into not only the world we're living in, OK, but the
49:58
world this movie is living in, and we're going right to the.
50:01
Edge right to the edge. Looking forward to it, Phillip.
50:04
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50:06
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