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Mac & Bone Hour 3: College Football Pumped or Pissed & Hornets Get Swept · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh.
• 0:10
  Speaker 3: This is my friend T-Bone.
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: Let's have some fun.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: Do it live.
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  Speaker 4: I think Shane was telling the SEC Network after the interception,
• 0:32
  Speaker 4: he got into more than he has all season. What
• 0:35
  Speaker 4: was that conversation, and how did you bounce back after
• 0:38
  Speaker 4: throwing that ball?
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  Speaker 2: Just to preface it, though, I was really upset. We
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: dropped a touchdown pass before we even got to that point.
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  Speaker 2: So it was building, Jordan.
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  Speaker 4: And then we had a pretty snap penalty on it also.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, stop effing turning the ball over.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, my bad.
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  Speaker 2: And then we went out there and did what we did.
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  Speaker 4: Freaking kid.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: Freaking Jordan.
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: There you go. Shane Beamer enjoying himself. Lenora Sellers enjoying himself. And, yeah,
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: that point does need to be mentioned. Sellers had two picks,
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  Speaker 2: and that has been the bugaboo. But other than that,
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  Speaker 2: ran for 90-plus again, threw for over 300. He's throwing
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: a beautiful deep ball right now. I mean, just gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: Harbor stepped up, actually made a few plays as well.
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  Speaker 2: But it does need to be said, that second interception
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  Speaker 2: doesn't happen if Black catches the touchdown pass in the
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  Speaker 2: end zone right before it.
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  Speaker 3: With him, you've learned that you've got to take the
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  Speaker 3: good with the bad, and right now it's the great
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  Speaker 3: with the bad. He's playing the most consistent football Mac
• 1:36
  Speaker 3: at the highest level that he's played over a stretch,
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  Speaker 3: really even more so than a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 2: And it all starts with the legs, the run game.
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  Speaker 3: Once he gets that going, like they have, and he
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  Speaker 3: becomes the unstoppable force running the football, everything else seems
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: to fall in place. And for too long, he was
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  Speaker 3: in the pocket and not using his legs at Now,
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  Speaker 3: whatever that commitment is, whether it's the staff or himself,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, but his run in
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  Speaker 3: the football is what makes him great. And right now
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  Speaker 3: he's been great.
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  Speaker 2: They're definitely using him way more on design runs as
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  Speaker 2: like after the first few games of the season. Now,
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  Speaker 2: it would make sense in the non-conference not to waste
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  Speaker 2: him that way. You know, but yeah, it's I think
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  Speaker 2: they got the memo last year that Mike Shula last
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  Speaker 2: year bone tried to not run him. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that was from Beamer. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: that was his idea. I don't know what that was,
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  Speaker 2: but it was a direct attempt not to run him
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  Speaker 2: last year, which on design runs, which is asinine. You
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  Speaker 2: got to let that horse run, baby. And then, much
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  Speaker 2: like Cam was, you'll notice big runs, all of a
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: sudden they start feeling it. A lot of these running quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Gross would always say it's about Cam. Then all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden it's like, oh, they're feeling it in
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  Speaker 2: the passing game too. It also wears out the defense.
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  Speaker 3: They get tired of that guy running at you.
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, it breaks your will, dude. Getting your tackle broken
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  Speaker 2: constantly by a quarterback. I think Kendall Browse has been amazing.
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: I think the offensive line that they've put, you know,
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  Speaker 2: redone in a transfer portal has been amazing. Um, they
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  Speaker 2: didn't even have Fuller the other day at running back.
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: They still ran for over 200. I got y'all and
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: this segment is pumped to piss. So we want to
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  Speaker 2: hear from fans that are excited about this weekend. We
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: want to hear from fans that are ticked off right now. Um,
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  Speaker 2: Gamecock fans have to be the hap. Well, I shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: say that. Wake Forest. I'm sorry. Wake Forest. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: other than wake boat, I think Gamecock fans probably the
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  Speaker 2: second happiest.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Right up there with Duke? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think that's the list right there. And State
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  Speaker 3: fans might be happy, depending on how they feel about
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  Speaker 3: Dave Dorn. So they could be up there.
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  Speaker 2: Got rid of Dave Dorn. You got a big 21-point dub.
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  Speaker 2: You might have Philly Riv coming in.
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  Speaker 3: Heels fans are probably happy, too, at the progress they're making.
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  Speaker 3: And Charlotte fans are making a lot of progress. Charlotte's
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  Speaker 3: making some progress, too, here in the last couple weeks.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's– At fans, you're on another level right now.
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  Speaker 3: You're a problem right now. Three stinking points. That was brutal, man.
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  Speaker 3: That was brutal. No doubt about it. They can't run
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  Speaker 3: the ball at all, Bone.
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  Speaker 2: They ran for like– it was like 19 carries for
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  Speaker 2: like 16 yards or something. I mean, they didn't give
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  Speaker 2: a yard a carry against Georgia Southern. Matt, can I
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: give you a stat on Sellers running the football this year?
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  Speaker 2: Last year, he ran for 270 throughout the season for
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  Speaker 2: 1.8 yards per carry. Right now, he's at 603 yards
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  Speaker 2: rushing for 6.2 yards per carry. Totally different. Now, granted,
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  Speaker 2: he got sacked so much last year, that came out
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  Speaker 2: of his run total a lot. He has not gotten
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  Speaker 2: sacked near as much this year. But still, you saw it, Bone.
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  Speaker 2: It felt like when he ran, it was scrambling. It
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  Speaker 2: was running for his life. It wasn't the design stuff
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  Speaker 2: near as much. I think you brought up something that
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  Speaker 2: needs to be asked, right? Like, if you won this weekend,
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  Speaker 2: are you going to crow a little bit about your win?
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  Speaker 2: Gamecock fans could crow. But what about North Carolina and Charlotte? Like,
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  Speaker 2: are y'all seeing things start to improve? Does that do
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  Speaker 2: anything for you? Are you heartbroken you didn't get dubs
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  Speaker 2: this weekend? The Carolina game was brutal that they couldn't
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  Speaker 2: find a way to do it. It really did come
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  Speaker 2: down to– I know we were talking about calls and stuff, Bone–
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  Speaker 2: It really did come down to the turnover, though, because
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  Speaker 2: this was one that, like playing PlayStation with your buddy,
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  Speaker 2: whoever broke serve was going to win the game, right?
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  Speaker 2: And when they got to Edwards and he fumbled, that was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it feels like that was too much because
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: that got them up two scores, you know? But other
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  Speaker 2: than that, it was shot for shot. And it was.
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  Speaker 3: So, Heels fans feel good about themselves. Miami fans, are they–
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  Speaker 3: I know college football is crazy right now. Miami's got
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  Speaker 3: a championship offense, there's no doubt. Is Miami's defense good
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  Speaker 3: enough to win a national title?
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  Speaker 2: And specifically the pass defense.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not convinced if they play Wake Forest this week again,
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  Speaker 3: with Wake's offense the way it's humming, that Wake wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: beat Miami the second time around.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't rule it out. That pass defense, when Florida
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: State lights you up the way they did Ashton Daniels,
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  Speaker 2: I know he's had some good moments. Billy Edwards lit
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: them the F up. He was awesome. Billy Edwards had
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: less incompletions than Mensah by one, but he had less
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  Speaker 2: incompletions than Mensah did in the game.
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  Speaker 4: And more yards and more touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: That's hard to do, by the way.
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  Speaker 4: The one thing he did was the one thing Mensah
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  Speaker 4: doesn't do, turn the ball over.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. And also, I'll say this, in fairness to Mensah,
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  Speaker 2: Miami had a running game.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Like, it wasn't great, but they got up buck 40
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  Speaker 2: or so, I think, rushing.
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  Speaker 4: Although, in the second half, when Carolina had to line
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  Speaker 4: up and run the ball, they were able to. Like,
• 6:29
  Speaker 4: they were starting to... Like, Miami got worn down in
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  Speaker 4: that game. And I don't think I was prepared to
• 6:34
  Speaker 4: think that our offensive line could impose their will. That
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  Speaker 4: defensive front's not as good as it was a year ago.
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  Speaker 4: It was a big thing that, you know, that kind
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  Speaker 4: of pulled Miami to the title game. But, Mac, I
• 6:42
  Speaker 4: wasn't prepared.
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  Speaker 2: I thought physically.
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  Speaker 4: We held up with Miami. And my biggest concern going
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  Speaker 4: in was, I don't think we had the dogs to
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  Speaker 4: do that. And look at the way we took away
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  Speaker 4: Malachi Toney. Outside of the first drive and the second
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  Speaker 4: to last drive. That's where all his catches came. I
• 7:01
  Speaker 4: wasn't prepared for that either. Seven for 75 and two tutties. Like,
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  Speaker 4: that's a good day. But, like, I'll take that against
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  Speaker 4: Tony any day.
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  Speaker 2: Especially as big as our secondary was.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost like Belichick had to see him up close
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  Speaker 3: to figure out how to take him out because we
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: always talk about Belichick will take away what your best
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  Speaker 3: thing is. Well, there it's almost like, all right, first drive,
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  Speaker 3: he was on record pace for production in a game
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  Speaker 3: because that's how good he was the first drive. And
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  Speaker 3: Belichick said, all right, I see what they're doing. Now
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  Speaker 3: we're going to work our way to take him out
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  Speaker 3: of the game.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Jaden Patterson, Belichick called him out by name after
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  Speaker 2: the game. Even on that first touchdown where Mensah made
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  Speaker 2: a ridiculous throw and Tony a ridiculous catch, that coverage
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  Speaker 2: wasn't terrible. That coverage was pretty good from Jaden Patterson. So, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think y'all could be in a shootout and
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  Speaker 2: Billy Edwards would hang right there with Mensah. That was
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  Speaker 2: crazy to me. And by the way, Shipp only caught
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  Speaker 2: four for 44. Kekahuna had big catches in that game.
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  Speaker 2: They used McGill as a receiver well.
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  Speaker 4: Jelani Thurman's going to be a day two draft pick
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  Speaker 4: when this thing's all said and done.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely.
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  Speaker 4: He is a matchup nightmare. But, dude, the two throws
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  Speaker 4: that Billy made to get him.
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  Speaker 2: One NFL team could always use a tight end around here.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Don't worry, Mac. We'll be pushing for him.
• 8:08
  Speaker 4: We backed tight ends the last two draft processes. But
• 8:12
  Speaker 4: I'll be doing it for a third straight year. Mack,
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  Speaker 4: not pumped, not pissed.
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  Speaker 2: Pleased. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a good way.
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  Speaker 1: To put it.
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  Speaker 4: I came away pleased with the effort, the commitment. Everything
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  Speaker 4: was there except the result. And I can't be mad
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  Speaker 4: about that yet because we're not in the result.
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  Speaker 2: Business just yet. No, but you're headed that way, man.
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  Speaker 4: Next year's my result.
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: The Syracuse results should piss you off. The Miami one.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully that fires up everybody involved with the program. Multiple
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: texters saying, hang it with Miami. Hell yeah. This dude says,
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  Speaker 2: didn't think we could score like that. Billy Edwards played
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  Speaker 2: a hell of a game. Deke fans are wanting the attention.
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  Speaker 2: This dude said, y'all just glossing over the best team
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  Speaker 2: in the damn Carolinas. My Deeks.
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  Speaker 4: We're getting to South Carolina. Don't you worry. We're getting
• 8:56
  Speaker 4: to the Gamecocks.
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  Speaker 2: Already talked about Duke, too. What's up with Gamecock Fitty, Bone?
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: Do you like this? The way he's hyping you up?
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  Speaker 2: Best team in the Carolinas? No, I don't trust the
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  Speaker 2: man whatsoever. There's something.
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: Is there some ties to Maddie? Is she a South
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  Speaker 3: Carolina fan?
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  Speaker 4: No, Maddie, guys, this weekend, Maddie learned what first intent meant.
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  Speaker 1: So, no, she does not.
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  Speaker 3: Because the one thing you're not going to become a
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: Gamecock fan for a woman.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to do that, are you?
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm not trying to do that. Look at the
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  Speaker 4: way they're kicking people's ass in the SEC. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the proof's in the pudding, man. To me, that's the
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  Speaker 4: best team in the Carolinas.
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  Speaker 2: Here's South Carolina over Wake.
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  Speaker 4: Neutral field? Yeah, I take the Gamecock.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's disrespectful to Wake. I was actually thinking
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: about that the other day. That's a matchup that we
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: never see. It'll be a fun matchup, don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Just in general, like overall, they should set, I know
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: it's a little tougher now.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with nine game schedules.
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: Can I call out, I'm being respectful to the Heels,
• 9:49
  Speaker 3: I understand how the fans feel, they're happy, they got
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: a four-star quarterback recruit overnight from Marvin Ridge, uh levi
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: kerr so things are going in the right direction but
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: mac i gotta call out one man and that is
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: complainer in chief and the reason is we had him
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: on the air over the summer and calling out miami.
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: Doesn't he deserve a little credit for how well they
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: doubled down last week but here's the problem i've said
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: before he often will disappear during the season he tried
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: it last week i had to go find him and
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: drag him out there's no complainer in chief today i
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: feel like he can show his face here i don't
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: i don't right there i.
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: Don't disagree but he's a weenie weasel and i need to.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: Know where he is here's my tarheel fan i'm calling
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: out myron the good man myron goodman moral victories are
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: for losers Or guys that want more than one team
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: to watch in the same sport. Sounds like someone on
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: the show. Like, what's that all about, Myron? I got 16.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: Bones got multiple teams. Finney's trying to become a South
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: Carolina fan on the spot. All of a sudden. I
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: have two and a half teams. All right? Settle down.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: Let's see here.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: 704-5709-610.
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: Fire your text in here on a Pump to Piss Monday. Georgia, John,
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: go Dawgs. Panthers need to draft Chris Cole. Yeah, he
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: would help. He would definitely help. Didn't have a sack,
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: barely any pressure bone the other night. He would definitely
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: help with that. So would both ends that did not
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: play in the game. I just want to throw that
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  Speaker 2: in there.
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: Um dr suave asked did i beat picante in the
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: pick segment yes i did uh picante's pick segment has
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: come to an end however he will be on at
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  Speaker 3: 9 45 today to spin the redemption wheel picante if
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: wherever it lands whatever task it is if he completes
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: that task picante is back there you go we can't
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: quit picante can we we can't just toss him out
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: He's also mad because I picked NFL games. The content
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: gets more chances than Miami did on those onside kicks.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: You know, it's not, let's do it again.
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: It's not over between this show and Picante or Jordan
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  Speaker 3: and Bill.
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Are we?
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Where are you at on that? TMZ says they broke
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: up a year ago. Jordan moved on to somebody else.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: People are questioning, is it Marv Levy? Here's my question.
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  Speaker 2: Why the hell would Bill travel to and suffer through
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: a cheerleading competition in April if he wasn't still romantically involved? Like, seriously,
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: what the hell? Are you some sort of sadist? Is
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: sadist the one bone where you try to inflict pain
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: on yourself and like it? I think so. Or is
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: that masochist? I don't know. I call that the Matt
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: Rule era.
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  Speaker 4: You had it right the first time.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why would he do that?
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: Sadist, dominant. He might be both those things.
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  Speaker 3: So TMZ's reporting that it's been over, it's over. Pat
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: Welter is saying, his source is, that it's not over.
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We have a source off here. He pointed out
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: to a video of Jordan right after the game hugging Bill.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, would he put up with her if
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: it wasn't romantic? Why on earth would you subject yourself
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: to all of that just because we're friends? I don't know. Anyway,
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: let me move back to the football here.
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  Speaker 3: He said they're still business partners, but I don't. Why
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  Speaker 3: would he want her around?
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  Speaker 2: You got to go support your business partner at cheerleading competition.
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  Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, let's get back to football. 7 0 4 5
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: 7 0 9 6 10 pumped or pissed Monday. How
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: are you feeling after the weekend festivities? Gamecock Moody says
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: we can let Fitty join. Mac is not allowed. Hashtag
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: Mac curse. I have, you know, Moody, I have touted
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  Speaker 2: y'all the last two weeks. And y'all have gone out
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: there and got dubs the last two weeks. I got
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: to tell you, there could be a Finney curse as well.
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  Speaker 3: What's not out to like Finney's always having great success?
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  Speaker 2: Not with Maddie, though. With Maddie, I think he's Mr.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: Good Luck. You know what I mean? She's rubbed that
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: good luck off on him. Did she not like the
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: nickname Maddie the Maddie? You tell us that. She didn't
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: like it.
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  Speaker 4: Not a fan of that one.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: Isn't that a compliment, though?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I thought it was, but. She did not
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  Speaker 4: seem to agree.
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  Speaker 2: Really? Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Maddie the baddie, not good, but undoubtedly zaddy. That's something
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: that I have to deal with.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you like that. You like that one. Shout out
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  Speaker 2: to my tear bear also. She likes that nickname. There
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: you go. There you go. She calls me daddy. I
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: call her tear bear. There you go. I got Tina Poo.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: We all got our nicknames for our honeys.
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: And then your wife calls you jackass, dumbass, smartass.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: But I'm Sweetums.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: Ass.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: I am Sweetums. Don't take that away from me, sir.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: Let's see here. This texter. There's not a damn Clemson
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: fan on the text line. Clemson fans can't get excited
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  Speaker 2: about a dub anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Bone.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're not there. Yeah. Tate Reynolds looks, looks improved.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Had the two pick two, two picks, two touchdowns, no
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: picks had the big 79 yard run. And I like
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: what Chad Morris said, what, what Tate said after the game,
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: he said, Chad Morris called him late at night this week.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: So I'm watching your high school film. Why the hell
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: don't you run like that here? And he took it
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: to heart and took that baby 79 yards to the house.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: And then they handed a pick slip over to poor
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Mikey Norvell, man. Yeah, he was not happy about it.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Dabo was not happy about that either. Clemson defense is
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: balling right now, too. Guys up front are starting to ball.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Interesting game for Clemson this week. They're playing at Syracuse.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: At noon on Saturday, all of a sudden, Syracuse is
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: looking a little... They're hot now. They're frisky. They're hot.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: All right, so you... They're on my frisky list. You
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: brought up Dabo was not happy with the Norvell stuff.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Dabo noticed a banner that was attached to a plane.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: You know when they do the plane flyovers and they
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: have a banner with a message?
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: The message was quite simply, fire Mike Norvell. And listen
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: to Dabo. Now, they went out and did what the
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: banner said. But Dabo didn't know that was going to happen.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Dabo has a friendship with Mike Norvell, as many of
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: the coaches do. Dabo, I'm sure, can relate, right? Two
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: fans turning on you.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: So after the game on Saturday night, Dabo got passionate,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: and he was ticked to see that banner.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: Mike Norvell, that was embarrassing, what I saw above the stadium.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: It was embarrassing. It was an embarrassment. Florida State's better
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: than that. That's not good for these kids. It's not
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: good for them. Listen, hey, I get it, man. You know,
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: everybody's got contracts and all this type of stuff. But, man,
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: that bothered me. And they didn't even spell his name right.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: Didn't even have the freaking R in the name. I mean,
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: it's just disrespectful. Mike Morvell's a good man. You ain't
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: got to like him as a football coach. You ain't
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: got to like me as a football coach. That's a
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: good man right there. That's a good man. And he's
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: a hell of a football coach. And I know Florida
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: State's better now. There's so many good people at this
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: place and in this program. Man, I've always had a
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: lot of respect for Florida State. Bobby Bowden is one
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: of my heroes in life. He ain't going to say it,
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: but I'll say it. I was freaking disappointed to see that.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: And hell, they may be flying one around Clemson next
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: time I'm home, but I doubt it. I doubt it.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Don't give him any ideas. Translation, I own this guy.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Keep him around if you can. That's what you heard there?
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: You translated that for us. Why do they fire the
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: coaches I beat?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Anyway, that's hilarious. Didn't even spell his damn
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: name right. Oh, Dabo defending his fellow coach. But anyway,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: good win for Clemson. Tea Time says, I always enjoy
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: beating Florida State. Hello, Clemson. So there you go. He
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: says he's happy. Husker Mike, after Syracuse beats Clemson this weekend.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I can hear that crop duster warming up. There you go.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Who is he to talk?
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: You lost at home to Washington and a backup quarterback
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: and a blackout.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Poor Mike. Mike is so sad about his own team.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: He just wants to be involved in the trash talk.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Go shuck some corn and quit texting. I called him earlier.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: He said, I'm glad we're turning on rule. Let's move
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: on to the new coach. And I said, the new
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: coach that fails there? And he goes... Sadly, you're right.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone wants to come to Lincoln anymore.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: He got sad. What if they brought in, hold on,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: hear me out.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: What if they brought in Nebraska legend Scott Frost to
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: turn the program around?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: That'd be a hell of an idea. No one's ever
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: thought of that before.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: When we come back, Frank Garcia is going to react
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: to the coaching firings by the Panthers the other day.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: What is he seeing that led to that and so
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: much more with Frank? Football perspective that we simply don't have.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: We'll be right back.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mack and Bo with you. Trying
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: to work that mix of the college football weekend. It
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: was some great results for some local teams, but also
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: the depressing topic that is the Carolina Panthers the last
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: couple weeks. Although, thank you to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers still.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: In first place by ourselves with a three and four record, Boney.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Sundays are fun when you're not giving up 200 yards rushing.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you. Give me more of that. You could
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: literally sit out every game of the season you'd win
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the NFC South. Like, the best results are when we
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: don't play. The bye week was fantastic. This weekend worked
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: out great for us as well. Oh, my God. Is
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: that an option, Boney, just to pass each game week?
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Or not pass like the Buccaneers. Zero completions in a win.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: That's seven less than he had against us.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Oh we also got to see the cowboys pee down
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: their leg yesterday that was fun that was very enjoyable
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: old jerry was stressed man.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. You love to see it. You really do.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: But anyway, we got to work our way through. We'll
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: talk some Hornets, too. We haven't talked a ton of Hornets.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: They lose two this weekend. That's Saturday night game, man.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: That one was ours, man. We'll talk about it. Do
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: get Kobe White back tonight. That's very good news. But
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: right now, let's focus a little bit on the Panthers
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: post Thursday night. Post, you know, the thoughts about firing
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Avero and passing game coordinator Jonathan Cooley. Todd Walsh, the
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: D-line coach, will now be the D.C. Let's talk through
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: some of this stuff. I know Frank Garcia has opinions
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: on it. And obviously he knows ball, having played so
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: many years in the NFL, including here in Carolina. And,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: of course, his years here talking about it on WFNZ.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Frank Garcia is with us on the Mac and Bone Show. Frank,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: how you been, man? What's going on?
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I'm doing good, guys. Hope you're doing well. Every week's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: a good week when the Panthers aren't playing because you
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: can't lose.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the conversation, but hopefully they can
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: figure things out because right now they're spiraling a little bit.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: No doubt. No doubt. Okay, so what did you think
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: of the firing of Jiro Averro like yesterday? was it justified?
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: And do you think that it can make a big
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: difference or do you think it's really not going to
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: change anything until we get healthy? Like, what do you think?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Well, I think a little bit of both. I mean,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: obviously the Panthers offensive line is struggling right now with,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: you know, their play, but I think that a lot
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: of that has to do with, you know, some of
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the protection schemes that they've been running and, you know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: kind of teams have figured out how to beat this
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: team and put pressure on our quarterback. So, I don't
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: remember if you met at the Super Bowl when Cam
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: was quarterback and, you know, teams kind of figured out
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: how to rush him. They rushed the guys wide, pressured
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: him up the middle, knowing that he was always going
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to kind of escape one way or the other, you know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to his right typically, and they'd run him down from
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: behind or corral him with those hands. And kind of
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the same thing's happening with Bryce. Bryce maybe not being 100%
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: healthy is limiting him even more than, you know, what
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: he's able to do inside the pocket because of, his
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: lack of size and able to see over the middle.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: So teams are rushing him up the middle, pushing him
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: in the middle, and trying to force him to throw
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: passes in the middle because the defenses are going to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: take away those outsides. The NFL is going to make
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: you play to your limitations. That's what's happening for the Panthers.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: But even the protection schemes and getting back to the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: coaches and watching what the Bucs did and even the Eagles,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I think the Bucs more because they play them more often.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: They know when the Panthers, they were predictable when they
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: were going to slide a certain way. And it's a
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: chess match. You look at what the offensive line does.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: It's a universal call. They go lucky, lucky. You want
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: to slide the line left, and they bring the blitz
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: from the right. So the Panthers aren't readjusting after the
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: defense adjusts, and they know the calls and the signs,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: and they're just putting pressure on Bryce in two seconds
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: or less and forcing him to throw the ball. You've
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: got to have everybody on your P's and Q's when
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: it's happening that quick, and the routes can't be very
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: long down the field if that's going to continue to happen.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: On the offensive line side of things, Frank, how surprised
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: are you that Rob Hunt has regressed to the point
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: he has so far this season, whether it's the penalties
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: or just overall play? We thought he was a stalwart,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: but right now it appears like he's as big a
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: problem as anybody on the offensive line.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's given up a lot of pressure at the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: right guard, and again, teams are going to study film,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and they're going to see him play often, and they're
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: going to know what moves give him the difficult challenges.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: And it seems like when you play a slippery guy
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: that's going to be able to get into the middle
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and maybe, you know, rip underneath, they're pressuring him a lot. And,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you know, the center's not doing him a lot of favors,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you know, by just kind of standing in the middle
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: really doing nothing. It looks like he's out there like
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: my three-year-old and picking flowers and looking up in the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: sky sometimes because he's not really aggressive in an active center.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: So that's not Robert, you know, that's not– The right
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: guard is getting beat so cleanly, but he's got to
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: improve his play for sure, and it doesn't help when
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: defenses are pinning their ears back knowing that they have
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: an injured animal over their quarterback.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: We're talking with Frank Garcia, former Panther O-lineman, giving his
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: thoughts on what's going on. Frank, it was interesting. You
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: started by talking about the protection schemes and teams maybe
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: being able to figure them out and exploit those. So
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: do you think, whereas I, the untrained eye or certainly
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: less trained eye, I see like Rasheed Walker and it's like,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: oh my God, he's getting bull rush. Oh man, he
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: just went to block this dude. He went around. Like
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I see, I see Monroe Freeling. It's like, oh, he
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: just looks like a rookie out there learning on the job.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: You already brought up a couple interior guys. So I
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: tend to blame it on the, on the individual players.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Do you Do you think it's more the schemes they're
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: being asked to run? Or I mean, I guess, I
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: guess you're saying it's a mix, I guess.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, definitely, you know, when you have a
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: backup plan, you know, and a starting position or a
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: rookie teams are going to lick their chops or defensive
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: players that have played a long time or lick their chops.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: No.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: And I got a rookie. And a lot of times
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the technique that rookies use are, you know, they get
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: away from it in college because they can grab a guy,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: hold a guy and then lock them down. When you
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: get to the NFL, you have to learn how to
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: counter their counter, and they're going to make a move.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: You might stop that initial move, but they're setting you
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: up for that second move, and that's where rookies a
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: lot of times get left standing at the line of
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: scrimmage with the guy not in front of them because
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: they're not using the technique that it takes to develop
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: that time to get out there and get better. So yeah,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: he's struggling at right tackle for sure. The left tackle
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: right now, he's been good at times, but that's why
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: he's a backup, guys. I mean, the difference between backups
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: and starters is the consistency in which you play, right?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: And Going out there and every play, not just dominating,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: but just doing your job. When you get beat two
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: or three times, especially at tackle, they're glaring and they
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: cause sacks or pressures. That's going to be very noticeable.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I remember when the left tackle was injured right now,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Icky went out there and You know, when he first
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: started and he struggled as well. So Bryce has been
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: able to alleviate some of that pressure by getting rid
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: of the ball quickly. But teams, like I said, are
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: going to start jamming receivers and blitzing and pushing the
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: pocket up the middle after they're rushing those guys outside,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: forcing Bryce to throw the ball quickly. And if our
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: routes don't adjust to those and our protection doesn't slide
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the right way or pick those schemes up, then he's
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: going to have pressure right away. You can't win in
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: this league solely by going RPOs and throwing the ball.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: You have to have protection. You have to have a
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: quarterback that can sit in the pocket. And he's digressed
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: as well and be able to do those things. I mean, listen,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: we've got a four-year sample size, four and a half
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: years now, of Bryce Young. He's had six, seven really,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: really good games consistently. I don't think he's a part
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: of the problem. I think he can be a part
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: of the solution, but he's limited in what you can do.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: He's not going to solely make guys around him better.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: He needs guys to help him be better, right? And
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that's the side of a good player, but not a
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: great player, right? And that's what Bryce Young is. He's
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: a really, really good player at times. He's just not
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: a great player enough. and able to make everybody around
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: him better unless those things are falling in line, and
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: he is going to do his job at a high level.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: That is the voice of We Are Frank Garcia here
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: on the Mac and Bone Show. Just bring back a
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: legendary moment there from your.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Past, Frank.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: We're going to be back in about ten minutes.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: That was another doozy. That was all day one. That
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: was another doozy.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, gosh.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, I miss it.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on Dave Canales overall as a
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: head coach?
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I think he's a soft coach. I really do. You
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: cannot have in this league guys going out there and
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: making the mistakes that Evans has made at cornerback. And
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I know he didn't play much this last game. you
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: have to have the fear of God in these guys
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: for at least keeping their job, right? And when you
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: have a guy that's so glaringly out of place, and
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I know it, I know you guys saw it, and
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: if you guys can see it, everybody can see it, right,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: that Evans didn't belong on the football field against Detroit.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: and he definitely doesn't belong on a football field after that.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: And the fact that he went out in the next
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: game and started, I was shocked. I was like, if
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: that guy gets back on the bus, or he doesn't
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: just get on the bus and go home, he's not
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: given a ticket, and have his bags waiting outside his
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: locker room, then we have a country club culture in
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: that locker room. If you're Dave Canales and you're going
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: to go out there and tell us that you have
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: better options and you don't play them because that's the
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: guy you go out there with, you're chicken shit, right?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: That's really what it is. You're chicken shit to go fire, guys.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Easy. Language there, Frank. Frank thought he was on the podcast.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Frank thought he was on Suits podcast there.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: For a second.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I'm all, baby, you forget that. radio rules, Frankie. We'll
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: be back in 10 months. I think fans love it.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I think fans would love that you got that mad.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you something right there, too, because
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: it's interesting. I forget who it was. One of the
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: media members that was talking about the Avero firing was wondering, like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: could it have to do in part with a Vero,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: like telling Dave, I want to play Evans and, and
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: having a guy like Marco Wilson who played a lot
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: better on the practice squad, but it taking like four
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: games to get to him over Evans, but you're blaming Canales. Like,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: do you, how does the dynamic work in locker rooms?
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Do you think it's possible that, that a Vero said, Hey,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I'm a, I believe in Evans. I'm gonna keep playing them.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: And Canales would let him do that. Or, or do
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: you think the head coach would intervene?
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: It could have been that or it could have been
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the opposite of that. You're going to play Evans because
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: he's our guy. I have just not seen the fire.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of times coaches reserve that stuff
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: for the locker rooms. Ron Rivera was a good example
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: of that. He ripped those guys sideways at practice at times.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: And behind closed doors. On the sideline, he looked stoic,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: and he really didn't have a lot of emotion. And,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: you know, that's a sign of a– but I can
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: tell you, I know Ron Rivera was going to get–
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I don't see that in Dave Canales. He's always patting
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: guys on the back, telling them it's okay. You know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: he motivates in a positive way, which is fine, but
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: not everybody can be motivated that way. Sometimes guys need
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to be motivated by fear and discipline. This is the
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: worst penalized team in the NFL for the last two years.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: This is not like this is a one-off where they
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: go out there and have– they've lost two games this
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: year they should have won due to penalties. That's lack
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: of discipline. That's lack of structure. That's lack of organizational
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  Speaker 1: skills that, hey, there's no consequences when we make a mistake.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, my bad.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: No, screw my bad. You've got to go out there
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: and you're going to lose your job if you continue
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to make these things happen, and nobody's afraid to lose
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: their job.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Frank, last thing I've got to ask you about, a
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: couple of listeners are reminding me of this. We had
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: a listener text in, I don't even know if y'all
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: heard about this. We had a listener text in a
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: few weeks ago, said that their buddies lost a golf
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: tournament to you, Suit, Alex Hunter, and there was one
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: other guy, I don't remember who it was. And they
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: lost by eight shots. And he says, my buddies are
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: so mad they insist they're scratch golfers. And, Frank, they
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: are accusing you of doing some, like, nefarious behavior and cheating. Frank,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: how do you respond to that?
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  Speaker 1: You know what? Play better. Play better. You know, I
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: take those guys out on the course with that group
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that we played with. and bet them 100 a hole
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: if they want. I mean, whatever makes them nervous, I'll
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: make that bet. Because that's what happens, guys. These guys
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: go out there and scratch golfers until those cameras come on.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: And when the cameras come on, their hands are so shaky, right?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: You look like you're Joe Biden over there at the podium, right?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: They can talk all they want about us going out
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: there and being nefarious. We hold out on the second
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: shot of the day, and it just got better from that.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: You're able to buy eagles. Listen, you go to these
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: charity tournaments, you can buy shots, right, because of the
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: holes that give you things. So, Mac, listen, I've been
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: accused of that because, you know, guys, they can't beat you.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: They accuse you of cheating, and that's the reality of it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I knew Frank would come with a good response. I
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: had a feeling that would be a good response. I'm
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: just glad you could work some golf out of the
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: schedule there, Frank. Well, that's the experience. Bone's good today, man.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Bone is killing Frank. That is true, Frank. Your experience
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: in these tournaments is going to be a big factor, baby.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Not to mention you hitting it 700 yards, all right,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: All right. And they haven't seen my buddy Alex. My
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: buddy Alex can ton it, right?
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: That's what I hear is that Alex is really freaking good.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: He's a good dude, too, man.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Anyway, and Bone and I defended you when those texts
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: came in. I want you to know that, Frank.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: 100%.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: All right. We banned those texters.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: All right. You defended me and now you're attacking me
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: with them.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: We just stirred it up. If I can't stir it up,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: what am I doing here?
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: We're just journalists trying to get the right answers.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: All right, Frank, good to talk to you, brother. A
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: lot of listeners are glad to hear you back on
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: the air, man. Appreciate it, dude. Great stuff.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: All right, love you guys, and I hope I didn't
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: get you guys banned from the radio for about a day. No, no,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: we're fine.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I think we're all right. So far, so good. We'll
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: do that ourselves. Appreciate it. Thank you, Frank. There you go.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: All right, Frank got a little fired up there. How
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: about this?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: 704 number, my deceased mother-in-law said Frank cheats at golf. Well,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: sorry to hear about her. But apparently she went down
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: with some info.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: That was his third text ever to the text line,
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: by the way. It's about Frank's cheating in golf.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Is he trying to draw a link between her being deceased?
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I'm uncomfortable with this right now. I do not know.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: When we come back, the Hornets drop two over the weekend.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Saturday has a heartbreaker, but we did get some good
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: injury news. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: Really good two-way player um i've been really impressed with
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: his defensive intensity i think he's even been able to
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: teach some of the other guys some of his tactics
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: that he uses uh you know with some of his
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: swipes and shift activity uh and then offensively his shooting
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: has always been something that's been at a premium but
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: today we even get to see him driving and kicking
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: and throwing lobs and stuff. So his playmaking gives us
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: another ball handler out there that I think can create
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: for himself and his teammates.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mack and Bone with you. That's
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Charles Lee after the second of two losses this weekend.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: The first one was just some of the– like, I
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: got to be honest, Bone, those stats from Friday night's game,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: if you didn't see the game, you would think they
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: shot blindfolded. That's how– That's how bad the shooting was, bro.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Holy crap. 21% from three, 30% overall.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: On the Saturday pregame show, it wasn't hard to figure
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: out what went wrong in the Friday night game. Horrible
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: shooting numbers. 79 points is like old school NBA with
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: hand checking. Where teams got in the 80s repeatedly.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Or 70s. That was awful. 29.7% from the field.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: 50-plus from the free throw line, whatever the number was.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. How dare I leave out free throw?
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was just sorry. And yes, they need
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Khan back. Kobe, even Grant, is a hell of a
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: shooter and a floor stretcher. The good news is we
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: get Kobe White back tonight. I think everybody's shocked. That Kobe,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: who had the injury much more recently than Conor Grant,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: comes back before them. But I'll take it. Dennis Schroeder
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: had a very rough Saturday night in the blown lead game.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: They had a seven-point lead bone with four minutes and
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: change left. They had a 90%, according to ESPN stats
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: and info, a 90% chance to win the game at
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: that point. and they found a way to lose it.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: They did not finish. Schroeder was part of that. Missed
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: a drive, then had two drives swatted as well. He
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: went one of 11 from the floor bone on Saturday night. Listen,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: he's a fine backup point guard, but when you have
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: guys out bone, you start to see that dudes are
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: being asked to do roles that are a little beyond
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: their comfort zone. Dennis Schroeder playing that many minutes at
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: point guard, is just too much to ask, so I'm
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: so glad Kobe's coming back.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: He's a guy that you can get by with for
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: a few games, and ultimately his role is better served
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: to be in the backup role. We thought they may
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: have caught a schedule break despite them being on a back-to-back.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: No LeBron and Embiid in that game, but, you know,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Maxie's their best player still with those guys, so he
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: goes off for 38 in that game. Matt, there's a
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: lot of fans already turning, I noticed, on social media. Now,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: I think part of it might be it's still a
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: little mellow effect of it all, but there's a lot
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: of fans going after Reed already that don't like Nas Reed.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Well, he's another guy would point to as a guy
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: being asked to play a role that is beyond his
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: comfort zone. I like, and it's been hit or miss.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: He's had some moments, but it is kind of gotten
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: a little ugly here from a shooting percentage lately. Nas
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Reed is not supposed to be the guy you throw
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: the ball to on the wing and he goes and
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: create something for himself or for others. Like that, he's
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: supposed to be, I think, spacing the floor. Swing, swing, swing.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: There he is. Post up on mismatches, stuff like that.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: His role that he is being asked to play offensively
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: is way too prominent. And that will start to change
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: with Kobe coming back. Then when we hopefully con soon,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: he had the practice in Greensboro. last week, so hopefully
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: he's coming soon. And then he can settle in, Bone,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: to like the fourth or fifth scoring option, right? Isn't
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: that where he's supposed to be, kind of as a
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: scoring option? Certainly not number two.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: No, he'll be the... You know, if he ends up
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: being the two or three in a game, that's fine.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: But with Kobe, Khan, Miller... You want him, and sometimes
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Grayson Allen might be above him on that. So fourth,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: fifth option. It was the first dust-up Mac of the
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Grayson Allen uh Hornets era the other night but you
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: know what when he's on your side it's a lot
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: different isn't.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: It very well received those fans were going bonkers I
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: guarantee that was some of those were Tar Heel fans
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown's in charge. Like, it was amazing. I was like, yeah, baby,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Grayson has arrived. Everybody could take his little squabbles and
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: spats and treat him.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Differently now that he's a warden. But, Mac, I will say,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: it was a Jalen Brown dust-up there. I wonder if
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: he was protecting his guy, Jason Tatum, in the beef.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: But after the game, Grayson doesn't say anything wrong anymore,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: does he? After the game, he said, yeah, we got
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: into it, but we were both at fault for it.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: They dapped each other up after the game. They were
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: mad in the moment going after the loose ball. They
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: dapped each other up. They were fine.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Grayson Allen was freaking amazing on Saturday. Nine of 12
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: from the floor. He was absolutely amazing. We need every
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: point of it. And that's why when I said Nas
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: fourth or fifth option when you're healthy, because I do
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: think you could consider putting Grayson Allen even coming off
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the bench over Nas as a scoring option. He comes in, man,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: and it's such a relief when we have Sion and Schroeder,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: those two non shooters in the backcourt bone. It is
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: such a relief when I see Grayson Allen come in.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Shooting 48% from three so far this year. He is
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: a dead-eye shooter. He'll attack. He'll create. Had a handful
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: of assists. The other day, I thought Brandon created real
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: well the other day. He had five assists. But against
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: the Sixers, they went mismatch hunting for Brandon. Ain't a
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: lot of mismatches defensively against that team. Even with LeBron out.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: And he ended up with 24. Dude had five rebounds,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: five assists. But when Brandon is the first guy on
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: the scouting report and maybe the second and third right
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: now without Khan and Kobe, he's going to have to
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: work for it. But that game was there for the taking, Bone.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: The way that game ended was heartbreaking, man. I wanted
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: that game so freaking bad. Schedule doesn't lighten up this
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: week either. It's Detroit tonight at home. They have Brooklyn
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: on Wednesday, but then it's Boston and Cleveland after that.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: So three of the next four, Detroit, Boston, Cleveland before
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: a West Coast trip.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: So.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: It's a tough stretch here in early November, especially when
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: you're trying to get your guys back in there here.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: At some point. Definitely. 704 says, we'll have Kobe back
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: tonight and Schroeder can play to back up. 704, oh no, Marquise.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Talk about how bad Seon James is. Shaking my head.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Seon James has had a horrendous start to the season
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: from a shooting standpoint. And it's a liability. Again, when
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: you have him and Schroeder on the floor together, teams
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: can just... You talk about doubling Brandon? They'll leave each
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: of those guys in a heartbeat. Say, I dare you
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: hit a shot. Schroeder's shot is just this ugly, like,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: push lofter from three edges. And Seon, it's been ugly.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: And then Seon killed us the other night when he
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: missed the freaking layup that could have cut it to two.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: It's just, you're at the doorstep, bro. You've got to
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: finish that. He's completely lost his confidence. I mean, I
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: just went through Grayson's three-point percentage. I mean, Seon can't
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: continue to play at 15% from three. He just– I mean,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: he just– I mean, the intangibles that he plays for,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: like the reason that he plays, eventually don't outweigh how
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: bad that percentage is. And I think when other guys
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: get back in there, they may ease him out. But it's–
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: and I hate it because I love the guy. He's
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: a first-class dude, but it is a complete loss of confidence.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Well, Charles Lee already started Royce O'Neal in the second
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: half over him, right, because it gives us some shooting. Again,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I just– but the thing is, if you send Seon
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: to the bench– does he, do he and Schroeder get
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: minutes together? Cause like my whole thing is those two
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: guys on the floor together, you don't even have to
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: guard them outside.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So that's my thing with
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: those two guys playing together. Um, but yeah, I hate
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: it because I do understand the stuff Sion does defensively
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: and effort wise. But, man, it has been rough. This
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: team can be really rough to watch offensively sometimes because
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: there's been so much demand put on Brandon Miller where
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: he has had to just create. Again, we get Kobe
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: back tonight. I'm so glad. I just want to see
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: it with Kobe and Khan and Brandon. I really believe, Bone,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: this can be a pretty good team because of the
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: way they've kind of hung in there and fought most
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: nights despite not having those guys. But they got to
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: get them in. They got to stay healthy, man. When
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: we come back, sounds of the Panthers.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Coach Canales and national media members discuss the Avero firing
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Mac Bones.
• 44:01
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