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Ambition in Technicolor with Amirah Kassem · Dos Amigos

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  Speaker 1: Hey, how you doing. This is Freddie Rodriguez and I'm
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  Speaker 1: Wilmer Valderrama. Welcome to those amigos. Uh, you know, kind
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: of a personal episode today. You know, my dear friend
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  Speaker 1: Amita Caseem is here, Amedia Casim in the house. You
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  Speaker 1: know what what I'd like to start. It's it's it's
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  Speaker 1: not in order of achievement, you know, but I'm gonna say.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she's not only a baker, she's an author,
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  Speaker 1: She's an entrepreneur, she is a planner. You know, she
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  Speaker 1: has created a lot of different beautiful collaborations that have
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  Speaker 1: been incredibly fruitful for a lot of industries. You know,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, we'll get down lead to it. But
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  Speaker 1: the most exciting thing is, you know, kind of how
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  Speaker 1: it all happens in the spirit that she has given
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  Speaker 1: the stuff that she's created. I think her product is
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  Speaker 1: why of joy is one of happiness? Is the color
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  Speaker 1: that you bring to people's memories is something that I
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  Speaker 1: think is really exciting and beautiful to talk about in
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  Speaker 1: a world of you know, some dimmed and dark times.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you and your spirit and who you are
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  Speaker 1: brightens so many so I think the idea of having
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  Speaker 1: an episode that's a little bit more joyous and more
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  Speaker 1: reflective of you know, the time that you said you
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  Speaker 1: could and you did so. Talking about your entrepreneurship and
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  Speaker 1: your your achievements, lets are from the top, I'm afraid.
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  Speaker 2: You all you make people cry.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean very people have achieved as much as
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  Speaker 1: you have, and I think it's something you should be
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  Speaker 1: very proud of and and we should celebrate, you know,
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  Speaker 1: especially with the Latino community, should understand that they have
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  Speaker 1: another hero in you and someone that's doing things and
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  Speaker 1: other places of the world that unexpectedly we could actually
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  Speaker 1: have contributions. So with that said, you know you should
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  Speaker 1: die down there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I started to ask you this when the cameras
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  Speaker 3: are off and I was like, okay, let me, let
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  Speaker 3: me wait to stop.
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  Speaker 1: So, so what is the me Kuwait? The Kuwait? Please
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  Speaker 1: tell me that story of how.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my parents actually met in Texas learning English in college,
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  Speaker 2: which is so funny.
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  Speaker 1: Because so your parents were from Kuwait.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, my mom from Mexico, my dad from Kuwait,
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  Speaker 2: and they met in Spanish or in English class. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: neither could speak any of the three languages. So that
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  Speaker 2: was exciting. Goes to show that you don't really need
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  Speaker 2: to speak a language to get married to someone. But
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  Speaker 2: growing up I actually spoke Spanish, Arabic, and English, so
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  Speaker 2: I was tri lingual and it was very confusing because
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  Speaker 2: I would learn English in school and then my mom
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  Speaker 2: would talk to me in Spanish and my dad would
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  Speaker 2: speak in Arabic. But I think I ended up leaning
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  Speaker 2: more obviously, growing up in Mexico, it was more Latina,
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  Speaker 2: speaking Spanish as my true first language.
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  Speaker 3: How did you end up in Mexico? How did your
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  Speaker 3: father feel about him not even speaking English or Spanish?
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  Speaker 2: Now he speaks both and they all speak everything, so
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  Speaker 2: that's exciting, But you know, it's really crazy. I actually
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  Speaker 2: grew up in Mexico, but I always went to school
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  Speaker 2: in America, so I crossed the border every day to
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  Speaker 2: go to school.
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  Speaker 1: Oh interesting, So where did you go to school in Americas? Texas?
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  Speaker 2: And I grew up in Quartetua.
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  Speaker 1: I always tell people Apasto Texas. Is this this wondrous
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  Speaker 1: of the world where both cultures coexist in the most effortless,
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  Speaker 1: most supportive, and the most loving way. People don't realize
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  Speaker 1: that there's so many paraphrasing of the border town stories.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody that thinks the border town stories are overran by
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  Speaker 1: cartels and all that stuff. And my experience of Apostle
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  Speaker 1: was so beautiful. I walk into a bar and you
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  Speaker 1: would watch and you know, you would see a Mexican
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  Speaker 1: guy that obviously across the world to work in Apostle, right,
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  Speaker 1: having drinks with some you know, some dude with the
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  Speaker 1: white beard in the Hawaiian shirt and you know, Caucasian
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  Speaker 1: filler then and they're just having margaritas together. And then
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  Speaker 1: as soon as they're done, you know, he causes the
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  Speaker 1: border back to Mexico and to go home, and and
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  Speaker 1: he goes back, you know, and it was and it's
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful showing off like that that the co existing
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  Speaker 1: is so effortless, and it just I always thought that
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  Speaker 1: Apostle was such a great example for, you know, what
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  Speaker 1: it should look like when it when it actually co
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  Speaker 1: exists and it works, and it's such an effortless united way.
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  Speaker 2: But there's such culture. There's such culture there, and there
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  Speaker 2: is such amazing food, like any hole in the wall
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  Speaker 2: restaurant is like the best Mexican food, Like it's truly amazing,
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  Speaker 2: and it feels like everyone is your friend there. It's
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  Speaker 2: almost like you're in Mexico, but then you have to
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  Speaker 2: understand that Alpasso is also home of Fort Bliss, which
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  Speaker 2: is one of the largest military bases. So you have
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  Speaker 2: people from different parts of the United States who are
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  Speaker 2: living there because they're based there. And then you have
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  Speaker 2: this like truly, truly like Latin culture that you just
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  Speaker 2: it blends the border to me, ye, like, it's so beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: Why did your parents decide to move to Mexico after
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  Speaker 3: being in Texas?
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  Speaker 2: My family was there already and I think that's where
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  Speaker 2: the roots for my grandfather and everything were there, and
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  Speaker 2: so they moved there. But truly, when I explain to
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  Speaker 2: people that I crossed the border to go to school,
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  Speaker 2: it seems like, oh my gosh, passports and traveling, which
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  Speaker 2: it kind of is, but not really because I explain
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  Speaker 2: it to everyone who lives in Manhattan. It's like the
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  Speaker 2: Brooklyn Bridge in Manhattan, right, you cross the bridge from
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  Speaker 2: Brooklyn to get to Manhattan, But it's not really like
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  Speaker 2: you traveled. I mean, there's way further places for me
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  Speaker 2: to get to here, like in La you know, than
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  Speaker 2: it is that you just had to have passports.
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  Speaker 1: And how old were you when you were doing this?
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  Speaker 2: Since kindergarten and I was doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you went all the way up to White grade.
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  Speaker 2: And we ended up moving to a Passo probably when
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  Speaker 2: I was like nine, and then I just you know,
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  Speaker 2: But it's funny. I'm one of my only friends without
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  Speaker 2: an accent, and I think it's because I had to
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  Speaker 2: learn three languages at once, so I really had to
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  Speaker 2: like compartmentalize it. But most of my friends from a
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  Speaker 2: Passo you can tell right away Latinos.
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  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I mean that's what it's like. Literally, their
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  Speaker 1: the their DNA exactly how they brought out. Also, you're
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  Speaker 1: surrounding by all the accents and all that and something
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  Speaker 1: stakes when you're part of that zip code.
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  Speaker 2: Also, the fun part is that everyone thinks that burritos
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  Speaker 2: are like something that all of Mexico eats, and actually
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  Speaker 2: only what is where I grew up eats Brito's, and
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  Speaker 2: that's where they were invented. Really yeah, and so you
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  Speaker 2: can get the best burritos in the real time.
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  Speaker 1: The next episode, she takes to get so how old
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  Speaker 1: were you when you made the first big move, Like
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  Speaker 1: you're like, okay, I'm a young adult. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: go somewhere to college. College and you went to where it.
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  Speaker 2: Was college and I came to LA and I met Wilmer.
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  Speaker 1: Is that right? What college? Did you go to?
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  Speaker 2: The Fashion Institute?
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  Speaker 1: Which r I p by the way for you exactly?
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  Speaker 1: This is a great uh you know, just I want
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  Speaker 1: to just make a mental note for everybody who's listening
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  Speaker 1: or watching fashion. The fashion industry is something that obviously
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  Speaker 1: was a major influence on her, and it'll actually really
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  Speaker 1: track alongside everything that she created after. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna start in fashion because I think it's so
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  Speaker 1: important for people to understand that sometimes you start one
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  Speaker 1: way and he made in those same skills may lead
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  Speaker 1: you a different place. You know, you never you never
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  Speaker 1: know how much across his path. But yeah, so we met,
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  Speaker 1: Ye how is this happening? In college?
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  Speaker 2: Wilmer. Wilmore liked to go to the best night clubs
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  Speaker 2: and so did I, so you know.
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  Speaker 1: Which we had to vie had.
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  Speaker 2: We were at all the hot spots. But it was
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  Speaker 2: like Wilmore always had this fun corner where it was
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  Speaker 2: just like a vibe and a party. There was like
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  Speaker 2: everyone's welcome and it was so fun. I lived with
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of Latinas and we all would.
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  Speaker 1: And you and you have to realize that in that
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  Speaker 1: time when we were all going out, it was a
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  Speaker 1: different la. Yeah, what are we talking about. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: about Yeah, we're talking about like you know A made
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  Speaker 1: early two thousands or so, you know. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 1: and what I would say is that that was there
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  Speaker 1: was a community that went out to celebrate that was
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  Speaker 1: just a different energy. You know. There was like there
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  Speaker 1: was actors, directors, writers, fashion designers, it was dancers, it
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  Speaker 1: was musicians, you know. Uh, and then there was the
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  Speaker 1: beautiful people of l A. You know, people who like uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they were entrepreneurs, you know, other athletes. You know.
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  Speaker 2: Shows had just yeah, reality, the hype.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like you would go to a club and
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  Speaker 1: it'd be like everyone you will see at a red
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  Speaker 1: carpet or everyone that you So it was very industry driven.
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  Speaker 2: It was also friendly. It was something where like you're
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  Speaker 2: all at the same party versus now you couldn't go
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  Speaker 2: to a bar club and like you don't like and
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  Speaker 2: it was like every night, you know, it was kind
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  Speaker 2: of liked. It was like our fraternity sorority kind of thing, like, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: which one are we going to today? We're all going
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  Speaker 2: to go here and then there, and then sort of
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  Speaker 2: like these crowds would just end up here and there
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  Speaker 2: and it was pure fun.
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  Speaker 1: Like do you think that those times were also kind
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  Speaker 1: of served us a little bit of like a network
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  Speaker 1: pre network or like or when when did you started
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  Speaker 1: kind of making the shift into the stuff that you
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  Speaker 1: have ended up.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely never thought I would be doing something that
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  Speaker 2: was purely entertainment for me. I was in college, I
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  Speaker 2: was you know, I was working really hard. I always
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  Speaker 2: worked since I was in high school. I loved the
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  Speaker 2: idea of learning and making my money and being in
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  Speaker 2: the and I think a little bit of growing up
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  Speaker 2: in a town where you know, it's not really that
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  Speaker 2: common back when I was younger to just have this
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  Speaker 2: like driven entrepreneur head on your shoulders as what is
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  Speaker 2: like the society is putting on you that I think
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  Speaker 2: I carried it so much for myself. And so even
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  Speaker 2: when I was in college, I was working you know,
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  Speaker 2: real jobs. I was managing production for seven for all
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  Speaker 2: Mankind back then when it was like premium denim was
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  Speaker 2: the hot thing, and you know, I would skip school
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  Speaker 2: to work because it was like exciting. I was like
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  Speaker 2: Mills and I was doing the actual things that I
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  Speaker 2: was learning at school, I was doing at work. So
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  Speaker 2: then for me, going out was like being young, right,
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  Speaker 2: like dancing having fun. I also like, for no reason,
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  Speaker 2: have never drank, so I could go out every night
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  Speaker 2: and wake up and go to work like nothing happened.
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  Speaker 2: So it was just like this fun escape of a
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  Speaker 2: lifestyle and it was purely that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so when you were going to fashion school, what
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  Speaker 1: do you think that was going to lead you to?
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  Speaker 1: What was the ultimate goal for you?
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  Speaker 2: So I always thought that I was going to have
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  Speaker 2: my own fashion line, like the designer label or something.
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  Speaker 2: And it's funny because everything I do now is part
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  Speaker 2: of that and is the you know, the textures, the colors,
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  Speaker 2: the patterns, the print production of actually building something following
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  Speaker 2: that and seeing schedules like it's the same thing applied
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  Speaker 2: to different aspects. And I think while working in the industry,
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  Speaker 2: I was realizing, like, wow, you need a ton of
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  Speaker 2: money to actually make it with your own label. Most
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  Speaker 2: people who study fashion end up working under a label
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  Speaker 2: or under someone else, or you know, different things. And
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want that. I knew I wanted to create something,
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  Speaker 2: and I just wasn't sure where it was I had done.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I worked in the industry for eight years
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  Speaker 2: before baking, and now I sound one hundred, but I was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was doing that. I was working in
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  Speaker 2: the buying office at fred Siegel when like all the
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: fun things were happening. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, all the
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  Speaker 2: fun things are happening there. I mean it was prime
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  Speaker 2: paparazzi at the parking lot of the shopping place. Like
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  Speaker 2: it was just it was the time in La for sure,
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  Speaker 2: and I had the jobs, which was very fun and cool,
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  Speaker 2: but it definitely was hitting my creative side but not
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  Speaker 2: fulfilling me in any other way.
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  Speaker 1: And why do you think that is?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think it was just too corporate or do
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  Speaker 3: you think why was it not?
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  Speaker 2: It was just, you know, it was just a job.
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  Speaker 2: It was not like we were then making someone happy
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  Speaker 2: or we were then you know, doing something for a
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  Speaker 2: bigger cause, like I don't know, it just felt like
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  Speaker 2: I could do more. And the one thing is that
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  Speaker 2: every job I've had, it quickly whatever company I would
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  Speaker 2: work for, I would quickly get to the top quickly
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  Speaker 2: like I was then I wanted. I was like high
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  Speaker 2: end fashion that seemed unattainable New York. You know, it
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  Speaker 2: seems like a struggle. I used to love The Devil
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  Speaker 2: Wars Prouduct I was like the book I read and
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  Speaker 2: like I kind of was like I would survive there,
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  Speaker 2: Like I kind of like a little massacres and being
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  Speaker 2: like I could be her. So I moved to New
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  Speaker 2: York not knowing a single person, like a single person wow,
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  Speaker 2: and no. I was like, I'm going to make it
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  Speaker 2: in New York. I just moved. And what's funny is
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  Speaker 2: my mom was like, I'm like, Mom, I grew up
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  Speaker 2: in Quad. Is like we're fined in New York. And
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: it was one of those things where I just was like,
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  Speaker 2: I need to work at a magazine. Like that sounded
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  Speaker 2: exciting to me, and I went to Interview Magazine. I
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  Speaker 2: was obsessed with Andy Warhol. Still am shares my daughter's birthday.
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  Speaker 2: I love how he was able to commercialize art but
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  Speaker 2: still become an icon. It wasn't just like stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but also in a production way. There's no other artist
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  Speaker 2: that really was doing production and he had a factory
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  Speaker 2: and I loved the whole idea of it. And with that,
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  Speaker 2: he was also having fun and parties and it just
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  Speaker 2: felt like he was business but like he enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: And so I went to Interview magazine and handed my
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  Speaker 2: resume and they're like, we're not hiring like you there,
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  Speaker 2: you can be an intern. And I was like, sure,
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  Speaker 2: I'll interview for that. Like I was just so determined
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  Speaker 2: and so confident, and they're like, well, we can't see
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  Speaker 2: you for however long. I was like, I'll be here.
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  Speaker 2: So I just sat in the lobby I remember, in
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  Speaker 2: that product building, and I got a job there, and
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  Speaker 2: within a few months they offered me the position under
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  Speaker 2: the creative director and Carl Templar and like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If you are like you're carrying bags on a subway
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  Speaker 2: to a photo shoot in your sweating and like you're
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  Speaker 2: just like the person carrying bags and like delivering, you're
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: the messenger basically for the company. So like pretty much
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  Speaker 2: anyone can get that job. Yeah, but most of the
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  Speaker 2: terms at that time were like dressed the part and
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  Speaker 2: they were in heels or they looked like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in fashion. I was like, I'm going to run around.
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  Speaker 2: It's me. I'm in my vans and my jeans, Like
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  Speaker 2: let's go. You have become and guess what. I was
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  Speaker 2: the fastest and the quick and then I got to
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  Speaker 2: do more and more and more, and so then it
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: was doing that. Then I was working for Johannlenburg in
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  Speaker 2: Black Dynom. He was launching that whole thing, and that
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  Speaker 2: was very cool for me to see actually a brand
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  Speaker 2: from nothing to like the coolest you were dressing anyone.
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  Speaker 2: You can think of what did you interview or oh no,
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  Speaker 2: I had left there to go do that.
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  Speaker 1: What do you notice there when you saw a company
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  Speaker 1: go from like scratch to like basically product You know,
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  Speaker 1: what was the one thing that you said, Okay, oh
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  Speaker 1: it takes this for this to actually go that far.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, I think that it's purely believing and like being
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  Speaker 2: so crazy to believe that it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: You have toion. You just have to always talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: Like I would sit there and hunt and then we're
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  Speaker 2: going to have a magazine and then we're gonna do this,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: and we're gonna do that, and like it was just
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  Speaker 2: us making happen. Whatever he said was gonna happen, and
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  Speaker 2: then it happened. And it was realizing that when you
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: just say these things out loud, but you actually put
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  Speaker 2: them into play.
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  Speaker 1: There's a power the counselor that they can right.
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  Speaker 2: And like the worst thing that can happen is like
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  Speaker 2: that part wasn't that successful, but you did it, and
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  Speaker 2: like check it off your list and you keep going
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  Speaker 2: and that and seeing him and collecting everything I had
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  Speaker 2: been doing as assistance to things and as like the
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  Speaker 2: lowest person the highest person whatever. I still felt like
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I was like, you know, not doing something for me,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: but still like learning and absorbing from everyone. And at
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: that point I loved baking growing up. Like when I
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: was little, it was like my mom was pinterest mom
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  Speaker 2: before there was Pinterest, right, Like she was like, let's
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  Speaker 2: melt crayons and make our own color and like let's
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  Speaker 2: do that, and she just like let us make the mess.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: And that's what I always talk about, like letting you
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  Speaker 2: kids be messy because that's where creativity is born. And
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I meet a lot of my friends were like, my
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  Speaker 2: mom didn't let me in the kitchen the knives and
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  Speaker 2: she was in a hurry in this and I'm like,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: but that's such like the heart like of the home.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: What do you think caught you from about baking?
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I think it was the time with my mom. I
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: think it was watching her and watching how whenever she
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: made food for other people because she was she was
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: a great cook. She is a great cook, a great baker, everything,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and people loved getting receiving food from her right right.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: So I would love to bring my nurses the thing
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: my mom made at school because they would like be
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: so happy. It was like her love language, right, Like
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: she would bring joy to people through her food, and
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I think that that was exciting to me. And very
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: early on it became a thing where all my friend's
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: birthdays or my brother's birthday, I was like, I want
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: to bake them their cake as their birthday card, as
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: their birthday present. And it was something that felt special
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: to me. I remember the first one was my brother
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: and I was like, he loves Eminem's. I spent like
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: hours organizing the colors and doing whatever. I was probably
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: like nine years old, and I was like, she got
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: so happy when he saw it, and I know it
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: wasn't perfect. I have a picture of it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Nine you were nine, yeah, first yea.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: And it was like it became sort of like this
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: thing that I was doing. And even when I was
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: in La, all my friends I would make them their
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: birthday cake. And it was a silly thing of like
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: whatever I knew that person loved, I would try and
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: make it in a cake. And over time I got
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: better and better. But looking at my first cakes that
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I was even selling and like someone bought that. But
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: so I started baking for people just at work in
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: New York. And you know, New York apartments are not
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: like anywhere else, like you're talking about like the teenias,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: tiniest kitchens. The oven like works, but like it's not
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: really calibrated and it's not convection. I had like one
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: little pan and I do everything by hand. But I
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: would bring them to work in New York and people
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: would ask me, you know, like where did you buy this?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: We want to shoot it for the magazine or things
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: like that, and I would say, oh, the cake, the cake, like, oh,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I made it, and they're like, but it's in a box.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you can buy a box, Like that's like
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: the easiest part. And so more and more I was
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: like impressing people, and I was starting to get requests
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: for cakes, but I was, you know, still working, and
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: so I would say yes, and I would get so excited.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I found myself waking up at four or five in
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: the morning before going to work to bake these cakes
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: and like buying more things for it. And one day
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I like hit me and I was like, I think
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I'm going to quit my job and play with sprinkles
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: for the rest of my life. What no trust fund,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: No like say, like barely savings for like you know,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: to pay rent. No plan of anything other than like
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I think, people, I think there's like a niche for this.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: And do you think it was because people?
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously your cakes must have tasted great, but
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: but there must have been an artistry to it that
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: they saw past how great.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Hold on, I've seen it, but I'm just I got
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: we got to say it out loud. You know. Her
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: cakes are like it's just a different dimension of beauty,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Like there is the colors will work together, the way
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: that it presents, the way it makes you feel when
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you see it, it just screams premium. But then like
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: that's one thing, and then you get to the cake.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: The cake is amazing. Inside, it's like an incredible adventure.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like a it's like a pinata, right,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: And I think you can talk a little bit about
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: when when did that happened later?
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: That was my question, Like when you first started, you know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: started getting requested.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: It didn't what you said. I think the thing that
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: people liked at that point because that cake hadn't even
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: existed yet. I think at that point it was like
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: you could get something personalized because when you go to
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: a bakery, they write happy birthday whoever. Right, And then
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: you had like the Sylvie Winestacks and the like ven
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Israel's who are doing these like crazy wedding cakes with
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: like tears and flowers and like these really expensive custom cakes.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: And then you had like kind of like the Vegas cakes.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: You know, they're like fond it and they're huge, who
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: knows what they taste like, Like they're fun and those
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: are premium prices. Right. I was someone making it for
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: like a fraction of the cost. But it was like
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: a custom cake. So people were like, my daughter likes
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: hello kitty, and I'd make it hello Kitty cake. My
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: daughter likes whatever, and so but for me, every time
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: it was presented with like a new theme, a new thing,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: it was like, all right, let's try and make that.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, and so I think that's what was taking
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: off is that there was this girl making custom things
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: at like not this fund. So I still don't get
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: anyone in beauty.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: It was competitive, right, It was like.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Right totally, but if you look at the market, there
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: was no one else doing that at that low price.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: It wasn't like a sheet cake where someone put like
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: a power ranger on, right.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: No, these were like I was carving it and I
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: was doing it, and it was like got to a
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: point where I was getting a lot of orders and
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: it was funny. I left the fashion industry thinking like, Okay,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I was carb girl there because I eat carbs, still
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: love them there, and I don't think it quite fit
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: in that world. I was just very hungry and good
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: at my job, and once I started doing the baking,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: it was this like fun world where I was like
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave and I'm gonna bake, but I'm gonna
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: miss it, you know, like you're saying goodbye to your
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: past life.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: All my first clients, all my first customers was the
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: fashion industry, and I was like, you couldn't have asked
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: for a more beautiful pairing. Because I think about it
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: all the time. If I had go on to culinary
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: school and been a pastry chef and done things the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: right way. I would have been working at a bakery.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I would have been working under the best baker or whatever,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and I would have never anything, and like, how would
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: those worlds ever meet?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: And instead it was like, hey, remember that girl that
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: worked here, she sells cakes now, and like I became
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: the cake girl because people were calling me the cake
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: excuse me?
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Think you were crazy? Were they like, are you leaving
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: this freaking job because I know school for this career.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: To life start baking like friends and family. Yes, it
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: was like why'd you pay for college? Like this is
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: a waste of time. You could have just stayed home
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: and like big cakes in Mexico, Like there was no
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: understanding for my vision of it, and I was like,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: you don't understand, Like this is going to be like
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: a whole brand, and everybody was like you're selling cakes
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: out of your apartment, Like what are you talking about?
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: And that's when my like delulu kicked in and I
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: would be baking listening to music, be like well one
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: day and one day and it really happened, like it was.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: It's funny too, because the funny thing about social media
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and pr and I pressed, and all of that is
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that everybody's like, well, these celebrities posted it, so she
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: blew up and I'm like no, no, no, no, no, Well
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that's not how it works. I was like busting my
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: butt for five years. These celebrities found me because I
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: was doing already something. It's not like the very important
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: that you create that.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Because everybody thinks entrepreneurship and entrepreneurship happens when you can
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: get a celebrity two to put you in there, whatever, followers, whatever,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: That's not how it works.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: No, it's word of mouth, and it's like building these
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: loyal To me, it was the brands. To me, it
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: was you know, everyone always asks people like what do
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: you think was the big break? And I'm like, it's
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: it's still coming.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Breaks a big break, because when you are an entrepreneur
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: or you are an artist, there's always there's always something
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: you accomplished something, so we want the next thing and.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: You can talk about talk about the levels, right, just
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: talk about that. I was because I mentioned a few things,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and a few things, I mean, we we got we
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: got a very good bird's eye view at like how
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: you rise to be to this place and the hustle
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: that it took. Then you created a hero product, right,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: one that really took off virally and that actually I.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Wasn't adding to the menu. Was like this takes me
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: long to make.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a cake. You want to describe how
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the cake happens, because it's really it's really impressive and
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: it's one of those beautiful things that ever. You know.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: The fun thing about that is that one of my
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: friends in the Hampton's was like, can you make my
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: daughter's birthday cake? And I was like, what does she like?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Or She's like I don't care, do whatever you want,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, no one's ever said that to me.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: It was always like very specific things of what to
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: make for surprise.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh yes, and I was like.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. My favorite thing growing up was pinatas.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Like I was obsessed with piata. I would plan what
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: my piatta was going to be, like I wanted. I
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: made some of them with my mom, like with the
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: chicken wire and like whatever, and it was just like,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: how can we make that moment? Lived here? Because in
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: New York I was like, you know, I started going
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: to all these fashion parties. And all like the coolest
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: things you can think of. And it was like when
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: it was someone's birthday, then it was like the chocolate
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: lava cake with a candle. And I'm like, what, you
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: give me a budget and that's not my cake, that's
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: not my party, like and it's New York. Everything is
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: celebrated at a restaurant, and like that is kind of
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: the vibe. The big candle is the vibe, not the
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: big dessert. And I was like, where's that panetta moment?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my gosh, We're going to
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: make a panetta cake. And I was so excited. I
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: got all these candies like lollipops and chocolates whatever, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I put them in and I cut it open, Like
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: nothing came out. Everything was like stuck in the cake.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: And I was like, this doesn't work smaller candies. And
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I'm looking around and at that point, I had turned
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: my entire apartment into like a baking studio. There was
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: like no dining room. There was like racks and metro rags.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: You know. Every time I sold a cake, I would
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: like save money to buy a pan and then a
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: rack and then whatever. And I'm like sprinkles, so I
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: fill it with sprinkles, and I take this cake to
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: the Hamptons, you know, on the bus, like I would
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: deliver everything. I had, like the most hand in Montana
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: life average. Oh yeah, I would take the Jenny and
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I would have these like glamorous
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: parties and fun things. I would be ut. But I
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: was the one like cleaning dishes, getting like the ingredients,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: doing all of that. But I get there and we're
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: cutting the cake, and I was like, I hope it works.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I hope it works, because you know, when you make
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: a cake, you don't know until totally you can't cut
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a piece out. And the minute that I cut it,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I saw all the little kid's hands reach for the sprinkles,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Like I just saw like ten little hands.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: And then I looked around and I saw all of
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: these influential people take their phones out and they start videoing.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: And now you're talking about two thousand and seventeen. Food
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: was barely become something that you would instagram on your phone.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: There was no reality shows about cooking on the dvs yet, I.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Think, but it was more of the time where like
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: just before that, it was almost tacky to take a
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: picture of your food. But that year everyone wanted to
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: show everyone on Instagram what they were eating a burger
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: they know to.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: They were like, how do I use this Instagram? I
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: guess I'll take a picture of my food.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, And to me that was like the biggest unlog.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: That was like the biggest unlock because I was like, wow,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: everyone took their phone now and no one used to
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: do that at like when you cut a cake, they
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: do it to the happy birthday moment and then you're done.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, I think this is like
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: a thing, This could be cool. And I came back
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: and I was telling my husband, who by the way,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: is like my neighbor, turned like business husband everything. Yeah,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I needed another oven, so I borrowed the neighbors.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: You bought your husband's you're soon to be husband's but
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: then just.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: He was just the neighbor.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: But yes, what a metaphor yeah, you know, excuse me,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I want to bake the apartment. He wait, so there
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: was that time where.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: He didn't go was not cooking.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: When he would come back to his house and you
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: were baking, did you like make him an extra little.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Cake or the best part about my husband is that
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: he's lactose intolerant and color blind. I don't know what
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: he thinks I do for a living, but he supports it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Wonderful colors.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: No, he tells me like, I live in a pink
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: house and everything inside his rainbow, and he thinks it's
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: white and colorful. And I'm like, everyone who's been in
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: my house knows I live in a pink house, but
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: don't tell him it's white. That's but anyways, he's more
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: like the brains of the operation in terms of what
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I call the boring stuff, anything that actually needs to
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: keep the company running right, the hr, thecounting, the whatever, everything.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And he's like, the labor on this cake is really high.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: This cake would be really expensive. And I'm like, I
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: don't know, people are already paying like this crazy amount
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: of money. Maybe they'll they'll see that it's a fun
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: experience and it's not just food and experience that was
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: the key for me, experience. And then he's like, all right, fine,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: we'll put it on the menu. When we opened, that's
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the only thing we were selling. We had lines out
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: the door. That was like we were I was getting
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: oh sorry. So then I was like I opened a
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: store in New York. But when we got engaged, I
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: was like, I don't want to stop baking just because
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: then I got married and then I had kids, and
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I got sick of baking out of my apartment. To me,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: a business is only a business if it can run
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: without you, right, And at that point, if I wasn't
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: making a cake, no one was making money. And so
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I had this dream of opening a store. Opening a
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: store anywhere is hard, opening a store in New York.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Where in New York that's crazy and so ho. It
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: was on Lafayette between Broom and Grand, so it was prime.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: It was like you had opening ceremony. It was hot
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the first we worked there, so it was full of people.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: But we were talking lines out the door. We're talking
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: people bribing me with like designer bags and like experiences
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: to get their kid next on it. Oh yeah, to
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: get a cake. It was we couldn't keep up. We
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: like literally couldn't keep up. Neither of us had ever
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: opened a bakery before. We were learning from our employees
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: and like who came from different bakeries. And we were
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: not sleeping. We were literally moved a block down and
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: it was every day. And I had already I didn't
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: care that I didn't sleep, and I didn't care because
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: before then, when I was doing it out of my apartment,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I was making you know, I was getting a phone
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: call like a cake for Snoop Dogg in the middle
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: of the night, and I was like, I'll be at
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: one Oak, like I'm there, like it was opening the
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: stud Mountain for ski season, and I was like flying
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: with all these weird ingredients to bake over there. And
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: you know, I've said yes to things that I could
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: never do by myself if it wasn't because I had
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: to say yes, and then I can't not do what
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I said I was doing. So I had done music festivals,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: art festivals with thousands of cakes and like things, and
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I was just like I can do it. I've slept
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: in museums doing like art installations and walls like I'm
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: just like a yes, say yes, and like figure it
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: out later yours.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: So from the moment and Freddie from the moment she
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: comes to that cake and everyone's like phones or whatever,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: She's like, Okay, this is a hero product. That thing
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: takes over right, Like Instagram is like people are just like, oh,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I want that cake and want that cake what you
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: did after that, I thought was in what you've done
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: since that moment till now I think is iconic. And
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's important that we mentioned the laundry list
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: of things that you're working on, because one I think
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: the world is just to know that there is a
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: latina out there's swinging and levels that not a lot
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: of people have to break in barriers like anata, you know,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: And the point is that you know, a simple the
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: simplicity of like baking a cake and what she's about
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: to describe that it's nothing short of an empire. It's
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: like just like a really impressive thing to do and
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: actually very inspiring for a lot of people be like
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: how do I start? Well, sometimes you might have the
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: resources or the tools at home and you wouldn't even
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: know it until you decide to like really make it
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: a passion. But so you went from having the bakery
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: or the cake place in New York and so home
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: and then what was the spiral after that? I was like, Oh,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: what about this and what about that? What was the
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: next thing that you.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Build before we go to the next I love that
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: you touched on that because you know, saying that, like
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: you have the tools and you have it. Sometimes it
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: is your roots, right, like I knew how to do something.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I knew how to do.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Whatever, my special ingredient. Everybody kept calling it like the
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: rainbow cake, you know, the celebrity thing like this, the that,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, they're like, oh, she
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: loves rainbows, and I'm like yes, But when you really
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: think about it, it was Banetta's. It was my childhood.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Like to me, I was describing it differently. And the
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: colors to me, originally weren't rainbow. They were literally Mexico,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: which is rainbow when you look at the Ottomi art,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: when you look at the streets and how buildings are painted,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: and like houses actually being like free, like got like
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the bright blue and the fuchia pink and like it's colorful,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: and you look at the food in Mexico, it's colorful.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: And so to me it was like a Bignatta and
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Bignetta's the original ones just have you know all these cones.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: It's a Christmas thing and they're colorful. So that's what
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I had put into that cake. It turned into like
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: this rainbow whatever, but like it's my roots, and that
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I think is something that you can't teach, you can't.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: It was like I felt it. I was like this
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: brought me joy as a child, can this bring joy
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to someone else?
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: And with that, I was seeing when people will come
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: to the store, how much they loved the rainbow and
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: the sprinkles and the unicorn and the glitter, and I
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: was like, this could be a whole world, Like this
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: doesn't have to stay inside of the case, Like now
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: you're experiencing my environment. And I'm not kidding. It was
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: like this pocket of Disneyland in Soho, New York, right,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: everyone in the winter and their black jackets and whatever,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: and you walked in and it was like bam, rainbow,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: like wall to walls and like glitter counters and whatever
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: was inside my brain that we like diide and painted
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: ourselves became And seeing kids not want to leave that environment,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: seeing that made me want to create around it and
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: create an entire brand and a lifestyle. Right. So the
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: lifestyle started with your birthday. On your birthday, you wear
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: your favorite clothes, you eat your favorite food, hang out
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: with your favorite people, and at the end of the day,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: like you created that day for yourself, and so why
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: not create it for yourself? Every single day, right birthday lifestyle,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: do everything that you would on your birthday every day,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: like just be happy every day. You can do that.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: You just have to make those choices. I'm sure you
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: see Nakano, she like has a favorite shoe or backpackers.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: That's what she'll wear every day because that's her favorite,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: right then, And I think as adults we lose that.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: So I was thinking about all the things that this
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: world could create, and it was kitchens was my first thought,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: right Like for some reason back then, kitchens, everything that
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: you buy for a kitchen was either red or white.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: You had a red mixer and your red like utensils
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: are white, like I don't know who decided that was
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: like kitchen colors. And I was like, I want a
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: colorful kitchen. I want rainbow bowls and rainbow spatulas and
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: a colorful mixer because a lot of these things in
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: your home are out on your counter. So at then
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking aesthetic, right, which is part of my whole
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: fashion and like putting together a room, and I went
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: after it and we did for nine years now, we've
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: been at Williams. So no Noma as like one of
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: the top selling items for everything from mini spatulas to
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: cake kits to bowls, aprons like you name it. And
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: then when I saw that take off so fun and
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: so exciting, I was like, oh my gosh, the kids
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: that don't want to live there, they need to be
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: a room. So I created with pottery barn kids, entire furniture, bedding, carpets, backpacks,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: like everything, because it was you could live in my
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: store in Soho in your bedroom and that's my daughter's
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: room now, like sprinkle wallpaper. It's it's really fun to
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: sort of create this birthday lifestyle environment for the people
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: who do just want to live and burst in color.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: And it turned into something where I was traveling and
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I was next to the person who founded Away Luggage,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, we should do like
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: fun luggage when you're waiting for your luggage, and back
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: then you would wait for your luggage. Everyone had the
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: same color yours, Like why we don't dress like that?
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Like why do we have to live other parts of
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: our lives like that, Like you should have things represent
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: you at all times, and for me that was color.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: So then we did luggage and it was like their
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: best selling day they ever had, and we sold the
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: six months sell through period, I think in a day.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Wow. And it was all different colors rainbow.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Everyone was a different color and it was not even
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: individually rid. It was like someone wanted yellow, someone wanted red.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: And that was so fun to see. And then we
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: did Van's collection and we started talking to you know,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: so you went back to fashion all back. Now I've
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: done a few collections. We've done Tututuman dresses, the Van's
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: collection like blew up in Europe and in Asia with
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: like these unicorns, Like it was just so fun to
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: see that anything that I created around this joy and
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: the people searching for it, that it was just instantly
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: absorbed as that it didn't matter if it was attached
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: to a cake, it didn't matter anything. It just if
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I touched it, it brings me joy, might bring someone
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: else joy.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I mean the spirit was speaking, I mean perception. You know,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I think that people never thought that they'd be that
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: invited to an ecosystem of rainbow and birthday, you know,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: which was great? And when did you? And then from there,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: because by the way, that's a lot of products, then
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: from there you did you This is that when you
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: decided I'm gonna do books.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: No. Actually the book was when I opened the store.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I had like so many people who wanted it, and
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: they started recreating knockoffs everywhere. And this was when I
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: was like, I knew that our cake was really expensive
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: and it still is, and I know why. I know
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: the labor that goes into it. Right like after selling
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: the kids and everyone emailed me, oh yeah, it takes
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: a long time. I'm like, I know, I'm not trying
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: to make an extensi thing. Then I realized how many
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: people were knocking it off because of the price point,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: and it made me feel like everyone should enjoy it
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: and it's not my secret, like it's it's something I
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: created for everyone at any level of anything, whether they're
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: baking at home or whatever to make. So I so
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: badly wanted to show people how to make it because
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: at that time it was mind blowing. People will be like,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: do you how do the sprinkles not melt in the
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: of it? Like you know, it was like this whole
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: science thing, and I was like, no, like a Pignetta,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: you stuff it like you know. To me, it was obvious,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: and I wanted to make this book and so I
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: went and you know, I'm at the time the cake
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: was so hot that I could talk to a lot
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: of different publishing houses whatever, and ultimately I chose my
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: husband laughs to me, because I rarely make choices based
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: on financial choices. I'm always like where is the most
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: exciting thing? Like where can I And so for me,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: it was like, I had I also want to do
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: children's books, and I also want to do board books,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: and I had all these other ideas for like five
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: different projects, and I was like, who will entertain all
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: my ideas regardless of how crazy they are? And then
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: that's a home for me. And so we did it.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: We sold five projects in one in one deal and
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I had a lineup of doing so we have Magical
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: and of Birthdays one and two. We have a board
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: book that is like super cute for babies, and then
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: the cookbook. And when the cookbook came out, it was
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: the first time where I felt like I was reaching
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: out to people that were my clients and supporters. Was
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: something that I had made versus something that they ordered
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: as a service and paid for and I gave to them.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: And that was the first time where I felt, wow,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: this is really strange, like sending a book to someone
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: hoping they post it. You know what I mean, Like
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: it's like kind of asking for something, but at the
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: same time, you want to share this beautiful thing you
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: did whatever, kind of embarrassed but really excited. And it
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: was the first time. Now I do it all the time.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you want this, you want that, But that
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: time felt weird and you know that feeling of like
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: are we friends or are you a client? Like I
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: don't know, And I gave it my shot. I sent
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: it to whoever I thought was a loyal customer who
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: enjoyed my product. And I'm not kidding. I woke up crying.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: It was like best selling book on Amazon. Kim Kardashian
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: posted it and was like, this is the best book
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I've baking book ever. Like people that I've never met
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: were like embracing this and what I found what I
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: felt was like they're championing me as well. It's not
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: just this cake.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Good is what you also gave them in the experience
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: of experiencing your product. You brought the spirit of happiness right.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: You gave them a moment they'll never forget, and I
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: think they in retrospect, they wanted to, you know, be
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: part of your journey too, which is really.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Really it unlocked for me and it changed everything I
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: thought about my business. Now I think about cake, I
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: think it's like the Champagne of food, right, you celebrate
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: with it. It's like that popped the cork, you cut
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: the cake. And then I think about how many people
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: out there just today alone in the United States like
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: celebrated with something I created. I feel like I was
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: like part of everyone's celebration. Then you have the baby shower, the.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Wedding, the graduation, the continued everything, and it's like so
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: special to me that someone chooses me to be a
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: part of that, right, like something that I created gets
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: to be a part of their happy time.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: And also think about also like some really big uh
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: you know, fashion moments, the Matt Gala, right then you
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: do the cake for the meg galants. I mean, I
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: just want to like make sure that, as we kind
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: of near the end of podcast, like that was such
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: an iconic thing for here it because also you have
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: another very high profile client that also is part of
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: that generation of Megala that is like such an iconic
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: theme for to be like, oh I'm I'm the go
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: to for that official you know, you want to talk
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: a little bit about.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: That, yeah, because I think the thing about the mac
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Gala is like, you know, if you say that to anyone,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: it's like, how cool, It's like a special night and whatever,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, for me, it just meant so much more.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: It was like you couldn't tell myself when I was
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: leaving the fashion industry, kind of sad that I didn't
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: make it there, you know, And I don't think if
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I even stayed in the fashion show, I would ever
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: made it to the Met Gala, right, Like everything happens
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: for a reason. And seeing myself go into the offices
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: to a Vogue to deliver cakes, baking things for Anna Wintour,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: doing these things for the people that I think are
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: the most influential, iconic everything, I mean, untouchable, you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: whatever it is that felt special. But then to circle
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: back and I was six months pregnant with my son,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I had left New York. I was like, I'm maybe
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: New York's gonna forget me, Like why am I moving
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: to La Am I doing the right thing? Whatever? And
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I get this call and this email and it was
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: from Anna asking to be the pastry chef for the
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Met Gala. I just I lost it. I was just
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: crying and crying. I was like kept refreshing. I'm like,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: is this you know I have other correspondence with her.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I know it's the same email. Like I was like
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: doing all my fact checking and it was this moment
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: where I was like, I'm not leaving New York. Wasn't
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: the end of me? Like I'm starting a new thing
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: in LA, but this is this is how you know,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: the fashion industry wraps for me. And it was the
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: coolest thing ever because I think I'm the only bakery
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: to ever make for the Metcala. It's usually catering that
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: is a contract. You know that because there you're talking
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: about like five hundred person dinner that gets plated at
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: the exact same time. You're talking about insane food allergies
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: that you don't want to mess up your your final security.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: You're talking about a timing issue. You're yeah, you just
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: have everything is on time. Every thing. It's it's like
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: a ballet service of a dinner for that many people.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: You can't mess that up. You're not going to give
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: it to a first time or good luck, you know,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: like you're not going to risk the night people work
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: on this the entire year and getting to work with
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Ann on her team on this, you know, it was seamless.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: It was flawless. I'd worked with so many people on
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: her team in the past, but every time I just
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: was like, got teary eyed about it. And then I
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: was invited actually to attend and I was a guest,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: and I felt like I was going to enter this world. Look,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: you've been to the Oscars or the Grammys or whatever,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: and to me, I've only been to the Emmys. But
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: there's celebrities there, sure, but there's also all the people
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: that make it happen. Right, there's everyone from directors and writings.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know, you don't know who half those people
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: look like. As someone who doesn't work in the industry,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: right when you go to the met Gala, nobody working
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: anything is there. It is a lister after a lister,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: And I was like, am I gonna talk to?
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: What?
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Am I gonna do? Like, you go by yourself, there's
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: no plus one. I'm like so pregnant, and you get
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: there in order of you know, whatever order they tell
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: you to get there. But as someone who is the
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: pastry chef, I was after the co chairs, it was
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: like Blake Lively And then I walked and it was like,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: you're walking these stairs, I'm thinking, like, don't trip and
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: heels pregnant. And I get there and I'm like for
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: the first time nervous. I'm like, not a nervous person.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: I could talk to anyone, meet anyone, like, go on
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: live TV, all of it.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: But it's also like your return to the thing. It was.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: It was and it was like after COVID when things
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: had died down. It was like this crazy thing and
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like, who's going to be at my table? You know,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: design h designer gets a table, I'm like, who am
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I going to sit with? Like is this? It was
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: almost like being like a kid entering a star studed
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: kindergarten and it was the most beautiful night of my life.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Every person that walked in I said hi to, not
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: even knowing if like you know whatever, and it was
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: like congratulations, like from Sarah Jessica Parker, who to me
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: is like the queen of the met Gala, and it
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, thank you. And I've been baking
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: for her for so many years and I'm like, wait,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: these are my people, just like in a different life.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: But it didn't think about it that way because this
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: is their night to shine, right and I sit down
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: at my table and it's like Alicia Keys, who I
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: met at my store, and it's you know, it was
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: just like these are my people. Like I was like,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: this is the coolest night ever. I felt like I
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: was a part of it.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: And you know, you are a part of it.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: But you know, when you when you work in something
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: that feels like catering and half the time you're delivering
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: in some back door and like doing whatever, like you
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: never know how close you feel to anyone. And so
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: this was that was an for me that was like,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: this is cool, this is.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: That's a perfect way to kind of, you know, put
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: a bow on this beautiful story. I think, oh, no,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: we absolutely can. But I wanted to. I wanted to
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: end on the mc gaallet because you know, I also
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: want to kind of make space for a cultural win.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: You know, a young girl that you know, starts off
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: from Mexico, goes to it becomes a child of Alpasso,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: you know, and then ventures out west and then ventures
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: out east, and then you do something that that's gonna
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: live forever, not in just in your heart, but in
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: the memories and the history books of that MCALA, which
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: are going to be studied for decades. Right, And and
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I think you should be incredibly proud. But all of
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: us Latinos couldn't be more proud to call you on
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: our own. So I think that's the other thing that
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: you should be really stoked about. That you're going to
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: inspire a whole new generation of young Latinas are gonna say, hey,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: you know, I love doing that. I want to do
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: that too. You know, it's possible, it's.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Possible, but it really is. You know, I had nothing to
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: my name, I didn't know a single person in New York,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: and somehow I'm dressed by Oscar Delarenta walking down that
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  Speaker 2: red carpet. Like yeah, just saying that out loud feels surreal,
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  Speaker 2: right And and also like understanding that, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, your roots and who you are, Like sometimes
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  Speaker 2: it takes time to get back to that, right, Like
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, especially if you're trying to simulate to
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  Speaker 2: something or if you're trying to whatever, but then remembering
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  Speaker 2: who you are at your core and like what make
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  Speaker 2: you happy as a kid.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Like, and I'll always go in a journey
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  Speaker 1: of finding now who we really are to then realize
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  Speaker 1: that we knew all along. And that is a very
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  Speaker 1: universal journey for everyone, right, Like we all have to
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  Speaker 1: become many things in order to become what we originally
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  Speaker 1: really were. You know, so thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a beautiful relationships my college club friend.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And now we're you know, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: do more things that the world will find out about,
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  Speaker 1: and we want to talk too much about that, but
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  Speaker 1: we're just so proud of you. Yeah, super proud.
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  Speaker 3: And and I want to say one thing before we stop,
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  Speaker 3: is that you know what's been so enlightening for me
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  Speaker 3: is there are many people who could bake right, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure many people out there who could bake well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but you did something really different than you
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  Speaker 3: found a niche. You know, you found something that was
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  Speaker 3: so different. And I always try to tell young people
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  Speaker 3: who who are starting and whatever they're doing, you know, like,
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  Speaker 3: find the thing that makes you different than everyone else.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, and I hope that people take that message
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  Speaker 3: from from this podcast and listening to I.
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  Speaker 2: Think the thing that makes you different from everyone else
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  Speaker 2: is the most you thing. So like, if I as
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  Speaker 2: an adult, love rainbows, unicorns and glitter like. That's the
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  Speaker 2: most me.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more original. I agree, agree
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  Speaker 1: with you and thank you so much for being on.
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  Speaker 1: Freddie Rodriguez and you know what find Us.
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  Speaker 3: Dos Amigos is a production from WV Sound and iHeartMedia's
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  Speaker 3: Michael Tuda podcast network, hosted by Me, Freddie Rodriguez, and
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  Speaker 3: Wilmer Valdorama.
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  Speaker 1: Those Amigos is produced by Cooper Male and Sophie Spencer Saviles.
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  Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Wilmer Valdorama, Freddie Rodriguez, and Leo
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  Speaker 3: Klem at WV Sound.
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  Speaker 1: This show is mixed and mastered by Sean Tracy and
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  Speaker 1: original music by Madison Devinport and Halaboy.
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  Speaker 3: For more podcasts from my Heart, visit the R Heart
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  Speaker 3: Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your
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  Speaker 3: favorite shows.
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  Speaker 1: See you next week.