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#53 - Kid Ink · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: All right, it's the Bootleg cap Podcast. We got a
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Speaker 1: special guest today. Shout out to my boy, kid Ink.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He's gonna be on the
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Speaker 1: podcast today. He got a new album out. It's called
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Speaker 1: a Live uh and uh Yo. We talked for an hour,
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Speaker 1: hour and a half. Great conversation with the homie kid Ink.
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Speaker 1: I've been friends with him for a very long time.
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Speaker 1: Somebody who's done it independently, real big, somebody who's done
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Speaker 1: it on the major level, real big, and somebody who's
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Speaker 1: currently grinding on that independent hustle. His first studio album
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Speaker 1: into the new episode with the Hommy Kid Inc. It's
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Speaker 1: the Blue Leg Cash Show Podcast, et cetera podcast, Whole
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Speaker 1: Cash Show special guest kid Ink is here. Ladies and gentlemen.
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Speaker 1: What's up, buddy man? Let me turn my phones off? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you got to turn the phones off, Brozz. First of all, man,
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Speaker 1: I feel like I ain't seen you since the pandemic.
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Speaker 1: Did I see that? I ain't seen you since the pandemic?
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Speaker 1: You know, did we see each other? I think I
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Speaker 1: saw you on FaceTime. Yeah, that's probably what it was,
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Speaker 1: you know, that's seeing people. Yeah, I think. Yeah. It's
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Speaker 1: been a crazy year. Man. How have you like, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, how has the pandemic kind of like has
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Speaker 1: it affected what you do or what maybe with some
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Speaker 1: things you had planned? Like how did it kind of
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Speaker 1: affect life for you? Bro I mean it affected me
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Speaker 1: like everybody else as far as obviously the slow down
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Speaker 1: of traveling and work. I mean, I you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, work traveling all day. So I had like
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Speaker 1: two overseas tours. I had like an Asia tour, I
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Speaker 1: had an Australia tour. I had a college run. As
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Speaker 1: soon as the pandemic hit, all that got shut Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I know, you do your runs in like the Middle East,
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Speaker 1: you go to Dubai, you all had a lot to do,
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Speaker 1: but everything was ready to go for that run, and uh,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I had actually was in
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Speaker 1: Dubai February, and I had heard about everything that was
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Speaker 1: going on. I was as I was out there and
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Speaker 1: how it was like these possible lockdowns and da da dah.
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Speaker 1: And then I made it home just in time, like literally,
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Speaker 1: I think a couple of days after I made it home,
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Speaker 1: which actually had made it home. My daughter was born
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Speaker 1: the day I made it home on Valentine's Day, and
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Speaker 1: then the whole thing shut down, so I had to
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Speaker 1: handle all that. Like, so was the day you got
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Speaker 1: because it was your wife with you in Dubai because
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Speaker 1: I was with you. She didn't go with you because
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Speaker 1: she was pregnant, close to delivering. So you know you
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Speaker 1: got back the day she gave birth. Yeah, so you
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Speaker 1: can you imagine if you would have gotten the next day. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I was in there in the airport, sweat ship. I
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Speaker 1: gotta get back fast, like hold on, just don't don't
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Speaker 1: like yeah no, literally in the airport. Hold on, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna be it in a minute. Just couples, just chill, yeah,
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Speaker 1: to layover please, damn. That's crazy. That's baby number two,
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Speaker 1: baby number two. Wow. And that was different because I
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Speaker 1: had to like really handle all that, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, loo with the crib. Everything was kind of
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Speaker 1: shut down. We weren't able to go to the hospital.
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Speaker 1: And then you're being like extra careful because you got
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Speaker 1: a baby. I was super But I guess that was
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Speaker 1: easy too, because having a new baby you already super careful.
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Speaker 1: So I was already stocked up on everything like hand
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Speaker 1: sanitizers and this and that and everything that people was
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Speaker 1: panicking over. For a minute. I was a little stocked
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Speaker 1: up early because I already had to worry. I was.
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Speaker 1: I was the same way. As soon as we had
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Speaker 1: a shout out doc Winner. He had like some homie
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Speaker 1: who worked for I don't know, some government agency and
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Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this ship's really about to get shut down.
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Speaker 1: I think it was about a week before it happened.
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Speaker 1: And I went to Ralphs and just I was that
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Speaker 1: asshole who had like cases of rom I still in
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Speaker 1: my garage, still have like a whole entire supply of
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Speaker 1: ship that is like just sitting there. It's a bunch
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Speaker 1: of y'all, man because y'all y'all went to the store
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Speaker 1: and cleaned it out. And then I went to the store.
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Speaker 1: It was dry. I just I just ran out of
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Speaker 1: toilet paper. I ain't bought toilet paper in a year.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday I went down to the closet to see, like,
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Speaker 1: I gotta go get the new I was like, we
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Speaker 1: were finally out. Why was everybody so worried about toilet paper?
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Speaker 1: Because ass paper is like essential, bro, imagine that was
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Speaker 1: the most essential thing. Like every time you take a ship,
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Speaker 1: you gotta take a shower. Then if you don't have
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Speaker 1: the toilet paper, I'm like that too. Listen, if it's
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Speaker 1: a rough, if it's a rough, if it's one of those,
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Speaker 1: you got to jump in the shower, you know obviously,
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Speaker 1: but you know, shout out to my wife. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, if we're gonna have sexna take shower anyways,
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Speaker 1: you don't got to worry about it. Nonetheless, damn, So
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Speaker 1: you're raising an infant during COVID, your wife. You were
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Speaker 1: just telling me your wife just opened a new business
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Speaker 1: during COVID. Yeah, so you was just dealing with a
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Speaker 1: lot of shit. Huh. It was a lot going on.
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Speaker 1: But I think, you know, I set myself up luckily,
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Speaker 1: Like I was already working on the gym, so like
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Speaker 1: everybody who was like dang the gym closed, I was
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Speaker 1: in the garage getting getting crazy. And then, uh, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I got the studio at the house,
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Speaker 1: So that was like mandatory of just you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying with the crib. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: it's worked. I ain't got nowhere else to go, I
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Speaker 1: ain't traveling nothing, So it was easier to kind of
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Speaker 1: think dial in and just be creative and just have
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Speaker 1: fun because it really wasn't nothing else to think about
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Speaker 1: or worry about like that. So a lot of this
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Speaker 1: album did you record it at home? All of it?
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Speaker 1: All of it recorded at the crib, All of it.
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Speaker 1: I recorded at the crib, mixed at the crib, at
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Speaker 1: the crib. Everything was so you kind of rushed this
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Speaker 1: whole joint. Yeah, man I besides, you've worked with the producer. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because of what it is. Man I definitely I put it,
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Speaker 1: and it took a little longer than I wanted, just
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Speaker 1: because of course I was telling you earlier. It started
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Speaker 1: off as like this type of idea and it was
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Speaker 1: only going to do seven records, and I love these
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Speaker 1: seven records so much, and I was like, man, I
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Speaker 1: feel like I need like three more I need And
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Speaker 1: then it started to grow into this big album and
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Speaker 1: it turned into a full album. That's why even before
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Speaker 1: it was like two songs that we had dropped, because
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Speaker 1: it wasn't really a thought process of doing that album
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Speaker 1: until we dropped those two songs. And it's seeing how
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Speaker 1: manyism were working together and how easy it was. Because
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Speaker 1: I could have put together a project with a bunch
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Speaker 1: of different producers. I get all kind of beasts. I
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Speaker 1: still got so many different records, but the business still,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, takes time and clearing people,
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Speaker 1: and there's much easier to just work with one guy.
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Speaker 1: We got an agreement and get it done, especially when
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Speaker 1: you're not working with the big label who you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, maybe a lot of those people are
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Speaker 1: already cleared your label, or it's just an easier system
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Speaker 1: where you know what I'm saying, I'm independent, and we
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Speaker 1: got to handle a lot of clearing and making sure
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Speaker 1: these are selling points and publishing and keeping track of
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. And it was like, Ism is the homie.
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Speaker 1: He's been the homie. We've already had records together, and
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Speaker 1: he's nice and he's a gold low key and so
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We just it was somebody
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Speaker 1: I felt like I could work with and get so
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Speaker 1: many different type of records done compared to you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, if I worked with some other producer,
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Speaker 1: maybe it would just all sound to the same to
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Speaker 1: where it still sounds cohesive. But it's not like box tend. So, uh,
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Speaker 1: when you first went independent, you came on me and
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Speaker 1: had shown and like we did an interview, announced it
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Speaker 1: and you know, made a big deal of it. You've
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Speaker 1: been independent for a while, now, what are the thing
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Speaker 1: I mean? You started off independent, this is how you
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Speaker 1: came into the game. You know, what I'm saying, by
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Speaker 1: the way, is up in the way gold Now yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think so, I know records off of it are
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Speaker 1: gold or definitely records are you know, I don't, I
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Speaker 1: gotta it's got to be closing with all the numbers.
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Speaker 1: But I just waiting and be giving me placks like yo,
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Speaker 1: this would gold. Then it feels great when the indie
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Speaker 1: records go go because like, plus, that's more money in
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Speaker 1: the bank, you know what I mean, more money in
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Speaker 1: the bank, and it just you know what I'm saying
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Speaker 1: makes me feel a little bit more like you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, even now with just records like I
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Speaker 1: did all this dolo, some of them in the closet,
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Speaker 1: like you know, for it was any bread and those
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Speaker 1: records got plaques. Now they definitely still mean a little
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Speaker 1: bit more sometimes and those other records that I kind
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Speaker 1: of knew we're gonna go, like that's gonna go, It's
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Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be one. No. But like coming
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Speaker 1: back to being independent and being back in that space
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Speaker 1: for a while now, like what are the things that
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Speaker 1: you've kind of like had to adjust two that you
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Speaker 1: weren't used to with being with RCA, for so long
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Speaker 1: because you had a very long run with RCA. Adjusting
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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, you know, because it's everything is
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Speaker 1: more hands on, Like I said, clearances and just certain
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Speaker 1: things as far as the business are probably a little
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Speaker 1: bit more, but I'm not as you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Luckily I got will you know what I'm saying, helped
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Speaker 1: me with the business side of things, while I still
9:15
Speaker 1: have to do the creative side. But I mean, of
9:18
Speaker 1: course relationships might be a little bit different. You know,
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Speaker 1: for me going independent, I'll tell you know that I
9:27
Speaker 1: don't get an independent rate. So everything that's like was
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Speaker 1: already what it was, or features or production costs, a
9:35
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff is still the same as when
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Speaker 1: Kittink was with RCA. So I think that's still just
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Speaker 1: coming out of my bags, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I guess you know, those are certain things you gotta
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Speaker 1: probably adjust to more than you know what I'm saying,
9:48
Speaker 1: when you are a little bit more free with doing
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Speaker 1: certain things or samples and you know, just keeping it
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Speaker 1: a little bit more in house so you don't have
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Speaker 1: to worry about all these other stresses that you were
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Speaker 1: able to let somebody else worry about, right, because it's
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Speaker 1: a whole team of all the variables you now got
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Speaker 1: to deal with, supposed to keeping it kind of like
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Speaker 1: like you said, like, hey, when with one producer, I
10:09
Speaker 1: means we gotta do with one guy to get these
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Speaker 1: records clear, ye, opposed to like getting you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, stuff back and you be it's just the
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Speaker 1: business come back and you be like DANMG, why y'all
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Speaker 1: gotta make this so difficult, Like you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm rocking, like we're doing independent. Let's just
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Speaker 1: put something out. Let's just work everybody wants to Yeah,
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Speaker 1: not even like we'll figure it out and I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: make sure everybody's taking care of it, not most importantly,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, make sure you get your
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Speaker 1: bag up front. But I think when it comes down
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Speaker 1: to all that extra points and publishing stuff that I
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Speaker 1: don't my brain don't get all the way into like that,
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Speaker 1: I started getting confused, Like, man, that's been a month
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Speaker 1: since we've been talking about all this. I don't even
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Speaker 1: want to do this record no more, Like I wanted
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Speaker 1: to put this out in this timeframe right now, and
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Speaker 1: I've had that happen where I didn't get a record
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Speaker 1: out when I wanted to put it out because the
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Speaker 1: business took so long. And then it's like, bro, I
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Speaker 1: just this was a summer. Now it's November, and you
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Speaker 1: just want me to feel like I got the same energy.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the same response from this. So again,
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Speaker 1: working with Isam, it was like, all right, I could
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Speaker 1: lock these records and I could tell him this is
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Speaker 1: my beat, like I want to lock this in and
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Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about two weeks later, a
11:16
Speaker 1: month later, he telled me like, yo, I sold I
11:18
Speaker 1: saw that beat. I gave it to someone, the one
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Speaker 1: that you had, Like I gave it someone else. And
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Speaker 1: it's crazy what happens to me four times a year
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Speaker 1: because you know, producers just be sending out packs and
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Speaker 1: then records that I felt like, oh, this is my single,
11:33
Speaker 1: and unfortunately and then they'd be like, well, look this
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Speaker 1: other guy's got it, and you know it's a major label.
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Speaker 1: It's a bigger bag, right, And then I'm gonna, of
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Speaker 1: course I want to tell you like nah, but I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna tell my homie, like especially somebody I rock with,
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Speaker 1: like don't go get the bag and make you know.
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Speaker 1: It's definitely a trade now and I'm gonna let you
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Speaker 1: go get this bag, bro, So take care of me
11:51
Speaker 1: the next go around. Take care me these packs when
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Speaker 1: you get hot, don't don't forget. But you know it
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Speaker 1: is what it is. So you have like a pretty
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Speaker 1: wild journey as far as like you're come up. You
12:02
Speaker 1: came up with like a just a crazy culte following
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Speaker 1: fan base, mixtapes, your first independent album, and then when
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Speaker 1: you signed, you caught one would show me. That was
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Speaker 1: like fucking how many streams is that thing? How many
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Speaker 1: times platinum is that record? I mean, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It definitely went on one of Chris Brown's like records,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, breaking records for Chris It's
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Speaker 1: but it wasn't. Let's let's be real though. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: as if I got signed though, and then like showed
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Speaker 1: me came out. No, no, no, you were putting out
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Speaker 1: other records. But we did. We did try like the
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Speaker 1: Meek Mill right, the Badass record, and I had a
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Speaker 1: couple other singles and I think what was the one
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Speaker 1: lifted produced it? Fuck? It had like a screwed up
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Speaker 1: like hook the Boston Up. We had the Boston Up
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Speaker 1: record that I remember through Ferg and French from the remix,
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Speaker 1: and then we had some I had some records that
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Speaker 1: were going you know, you had records still for the
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Speaker 1: more so for the core fans. But I felt like,
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Speaker 1: definitely when this show Me hit, it was like show
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Speaker 1: Me was like over right, So then like you kind
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Speaker 1: of go on this run where you have all of
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Speaker 1: these records that are kind of in similar vein to
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Speaker 1: show Me. Not necessarily the same, but like you know,
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Speaker 1: R and B hooks, one hundred bpm type joints. You
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Very successful, huge tours. You're all
13:26
Speaker 1: Chris Brown Tory, I mean all these tours. Do you
13:30
Speaker 1: feel like that that kind of started to eat away
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Speaker 1: at your like core following or like the ability for
13:38
Speaker 1: new fans to come in and tap in with like
13:42
Speaker 1: what some of your earlier fans fell in love with,
13:44
Speaker 1: because I feel like a lot of fans, kind of
13:46
Speaker 1: the newer fans that were coming in, yeah, started to
13:49
Speaker 1: kind of just see you as like the radio guy. Definitely,
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Speaker 1: it was definitely like I had two separate fans, especially
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Speaker 1: when you would go to the shows and I would
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Speaker 1: have to like please the core fans and the new
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Speaker 1: fans at the same time, and you can see the
14:02
Speaker 1: difference and the energies or whatever. But I think, you know,
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Speaker 1: at the time when show Me came out, I love
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Speaker 1: the record, but it wasn't in my head that it
14:12
Speaker 1: was like, all right, we're gonna keep busting these down
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Speaker 1: more so than people were asking for me to bust
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Speaker 1: those down. Like the DJs was telling me like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we love this, and you know what I'm saying. Make
14:22
Speaker 1: sure you know what I'm saying always, you know, And
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Speaker 1: it felt like something that was simple too, and everybody
14:27
Speaker 1: was telling me, hell, you sound great doing it, you
14:28
Speaker 1: sound comfortable doing this, and it was like, all right, cool,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'll rock with it is,
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Speaker 1: you know, much as the hits come through, Like I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna run away from a hit record, but uh,
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Speaker 1: I definitely wasn't looking forward to it being like the
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Speaker 1: not necessarily I'm gonna take credit for, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, having a sound, but people like that's the
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Speaker 1: kidding sound. I don't want them to be like that's
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Speaker 1: the only sound you can do. Kidding can do. For
14:52
Speaker 1: the new fans, because I know it's fans that know
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Speaker 1: what it is. Because like Time of Your Life, which
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Speaker 1: was kind of the first record that you had any
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Speaker 1: radio success with, Yeah, was I think like sixty some
15:02
Speaker 1: odd bpms. It was super melodic and it was just
15:04
Speaker 1: you and those to me, when I talk to certain people,
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Speaker 1: like those are kidd Ink records, like for a nice group,
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Speaker 1: especially people who really know me and people who've been rocking.
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Speaker 1: Like when I put on something like that, they go,
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Speaker 1: that reminds me of a kidd Ink record or the
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Speaker 1: up and away vibes. It's like, that's a Kidding record,
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Speaker 1: and that's the album that a lot of people familiarized
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Speaker 1: with me before Show Me. They're like, this is the
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Speaker 1: sound that he had or the type of music he
15:28
Speaker 1: was creating. And then you know, when Show Me came out,
15:33
Speaker 1: not only did was it, it was a whole new
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Speaker 1: way to even listen to music at one point too.
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Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, The people who were
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Speaker 1: listening to those other records sometimes still go to those
15:43
Speaker 1: old websites and stuff to listen to that stuff because
15:46
Speaker 1: it's not even available nowhere. Yeah, people still be going
15:50
Speaker 1: on there, like, Yo, what I've had somebody ask me like, yo,
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Speaker 1: you should put something out on that PIF, and I
15:54
Speaker 1: was like, so just so you could listen to it,
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Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to figure that's not what you know,
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Speaker 1: what I mean shout out to that PIF, not shout out,
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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying it would be stupid of you
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Speaker 1: to put something out solely on that PIF would make
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Speaker 1: any sense. Right, So it's like the new fans who
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Speaker 1: only get up to what they got on Spotify and
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Speaker 1: Apple and all that stuff like that they got. They
16:16
Speaker 1: can only backtrack so far. And I'll be thinking too,
16:19
Speaker 1: like it'll people like, yo, you should do a feature
16:21
Speaker 1: with this person. I'd be like I did. I did
16:23
Speaker 1: like two back then. I mean, they're not on the
16:26
Speaker 1: streaming that works now, but it is what it is.
16:28
Speaker 1: So I don't know what else, you know, what I'm
16:32
Speaker 1: saying to do besides that, but accept it and then
16:34
Speaker 1: just move forward and kind of just work through it.
16:37
Speaker 1: And now just showing proven that I'm independent, I got
16:39
Speaker 1: obviously more rooms, So yeah, now you're independent and you
16:42
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want. At the same time, I
16:46
Speaker 1: had this like I remember when Tiger was making like
16:53
Speaker 1: before it tastes happened. Tiger was making some wild records
16:55
Speaker 1: that were like, what are you doing? Bro? Like I
16:58
Speaker 1: forget he was, he was singing and there R and
17:00
Speaker 1: B album right, it was, it was. It was horrible.
17:02
Speaker 1: It just wasn't good. Shout out to Tiger. I'm saying
17:04
Speaker 1: me personally, I did not. I did not enjoy that.
17:07
Speaker 1: And I remember just thinking to myself, like, bro, this
17:09
Speaker 1: ship is a no brainer. Like Tiger just put out
17:12
Speaker 1: some Tiger ship and then he put Taste out and
17:14
Speaker 1: I was like, bruh, I feel you on that? Do
17:17
Speaker 1: you feel like because I heard you got some some
17:20
Speaker 1: ship in the cut? I actually heard the record. You
17:22
Speaker 1: got a rumor shout out to Yeah, shout out bro.
17:25
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Nelly's supposed to be
17:27
Speaker 1: got on that song. Uh, we we played it. What
17:30
Speaker 1: happened was we played it for Nelly. Uh I think,
17:33
Speaker 1: I think because I think when Rumor played it for me,
17:35
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, Nelly's getting on this. Yeah. We had
17:36
Speaker 1: played it for Nelly and brought it through and then
17:39
Speaker 1: instead we ended up doing two other records and Nelly
17:43
Speaker 1: for you and me. Rumor and Nelly did one other
17:46
Speaker 1: record and me and Nelly got like four records in
17:50
Speaker 1: the can that should just be working because that's the bro.
17:52
Speaker 1: So sometime he'll just pull up to the crib and
17:55
Speaker 1: then I just be playing play. But I guess, like
17:58
Speaker 1: I feel like you have the like kind of the
18:02
Speaker 1: like like if you were to do a record like
18:05
Speaker 1: show me or you know whatever right now independently, Yeah,
18:11
Speaker 1: you make so much money off of that song right
18:14
Speaker 1: because it's yours now. So I mean, cause I know
18:17
Speaker 1: you made a conscious decision to be like, Yo, don't
18:19
Speaker 1: send me these beats, Like don't like like this is
18:22
Speaker 1: you know, I'm close with you and your team, So
18:25
Speaker 1: I'm like, like, I know you made a conscious decision
18:27
Speaker 1: to be like, look like stop sending me Mustard beats.
18:30
Speaker 1: Stop sending me you know these kind of records. Have
18:33
Speaker 1: you thought like, Yo, look now that I'm independent, Like
18:37
Speaker 1: if I catch one now, it's like way different. Have
18:39
Speaker 1: you thought of like saying like, hey, fuck it, let's
18:42
Speaker 1: see what happens? Like absolutely, I think I think what
18:45
Speaker 1: it was was when I was asking people not to
18:47
Speaker 1: send me that stuff, I just needed it for like
18:49
Speaker 1: my mental like creative space to be able to open
18:53
Speaker 1: up and not just I just needed it for myself,
18:55
Speaker 1: so because I was feeling boxed in or insecure about
18:59
Speaker 1: if I could take it different directions still, whatever the
19:01
Speaker 1: case may be. So but of course I looked back
19:05
Speaker 1: and even just listening to certain records or just getting
19:09
Speaker 1: beats and then just having something to it so quickly
19:12
Speaker 1: and being like, dang, this is low Kia smash. I
19:15
Speaker 1: definitely told myself like, I'm not running away from nothing,
19:18
Speaker 1: especially now that you know what I'm saying, Summer's on
19:20
Speaker 1: the way. I got a nice little stash up for
19:22
Speaker 1: the summer, and I know that, you know, it's a
19:26
Speaker 1: vibe that people you know what I'm saying, enjoy and
19:28
Speaker 1: I know that I love making you know what I'm saying,
19:30
Speaker 1: music that make people feel good. And I've been missing
19:32
Speaker 1: the summer. I'm not gonna lie. So I've heard some
19:34
Speaker 1: songs that you don't have out that are like what
19:36
Speaker 1: was the There's a record that I know Will was
19:39
Speaker 1: trying to get Kane Brown on. Oh yeah, that's like
19:43
Speaker 1: a hitch, that's like and that shit's like a year
19:45
Speaker 1: and a half, two years old. That's like a smash.
19:47
Speaker 1: Like these are records that you just got it, just
19:49
Speaker 1: tucked off. But it just needs the perfect the perfect
19:53
Speaker 1: person singing on that hook, and I just it gotta
19:55
Speaker 1: get right. You feel me though, like you got records
19:57
Speaker 1: like that that are like crazy and it was like
20:02
Speaker 1: I think it was just all the time and things
20:03
Speaker 1: like that's like a soundtrack or like the theme song,
20:07
Speaker 1: like you know, summer slam type, shit fast and furious type.
20:10
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying exactly the movie. Do you
20:13
Speaker 1: feel kind of like if you know you have like okay,
20:16
Speaker 1: look like you said, I got you got shit tucked
20:20
Speaker 1: like this? To me, I think is like a dope
20:21
Speaker 1: project because it's something that's like you're independent now, so
20:25
Speaker 1: why not do a whole project with a producer? Right?
20:29
Speaker 1: But if you know, like hey, look I got this, this, this,
20:31
Speaker 1: and this, being independent, is it like a little bit
20:33
Speaker 1: harder to be like, look, guys, if we're going to
20:36
Speaker 1: drop this, we gotta make sure we got all of
20:40
Speaker 1: these ducks in a row because we want to make
20:43
Speaker 1: sure it has the best chance to be as big
20:47
Speaker 1: as it should be. Does it give you kind of
20:50
Speaker 1: cold feet to drop something like that now that you're
20:53
Speaker 1: independent or is it like more like timing, like like
20:57
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because you got like you said,
20:58
Speaker 1: you have some big records, bro, Like I feel like
21:00
Speaker 1: your biggest joints you have you've been sitting on. That's
21:03
Speaker 1: what people tell me all the time. Now, I think
21:06
Speaker 1: it's definitely a timing thing. I don't like you said
21:11
Speaker 1: getting the ducks in a row for sure. Like after
21:13
Speaker 1: I got the project done, it was more so like,
21:17
Speaker 1: all right, now, how we're gonna line it up a
21:19
Speaker 1: certain way and give ourselves enough time to be able
21:22
Speaker 1: to do boom boom boom boom. Could it was like initially,
21:26
Speaker 1: initially I was like I wanted to put it out
21:29
Speaker 1: at this time. It went two months over the time
21:31
Speaker 1: I wanted to put out, just trying to perfect it
21:33
Speaker 1: the way I wanted it to sound. And then of
21:36
Speaker 1: course I immediately wanted to put it out. But then
21:38
Speaker 1: you step back and it's like, I'm not gonna do that.
21:41
Speaker 1: It's not a surprise project. Like I want to give
21:43
Speaker 1: it its full potential and you know what I'm saying,
21:46
Speaker 1: let it be seen and heard and give it what
21:48
Speaker 1: it needs to really, you know what I'm saying, have
21:51
Speaker 1: some success instead of just putting it out and which
21:54
Speaker 1: with records I've done before. By just wanting to put
21:56
Speaker 1: something out just to have content out right, and then
21:58
Speaker 1: they got to kind of get overlooked, just not because
22:02
Speaker 1: the record wasn't hot, it got overlooked because it wasn't
22:06
Speaker 1: put out in a certain manner to you know what
22:08
Speaker 1: I'm saying succeed. So with this project, I definitely it
22:12
Speaker 1: first kind of just wanted to get the content out
22:14
Speaker 1: and let people kind of gravitate towards it the way
22:17
Speaker 1: they want. But I still want to have some type
22:19
Speaker 1: of impact, especially being from where I was to go
22:22
Speaker 1: on independent. I don't want to low ball and be
22:24
Speaker 1: like I'm independent now and now I'm not doing things
22:26
Speaker 1: it's big, Like I'm not giving you, you know what
22:29
Speaker 1: I'm saying, the same type of energy because I'm independent.
22:31
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing some music out there and seeing what happens. Like,
22:34
Speaker 1: I definitely don't want it to do thathing like that.
22:36
Speaker 1: There's been this big narrative in music over the last
22:38
Speaker 1: few years about going independent ownership. You know, Kanye led
22:45
Speaker 1: a lot of that with the publishing shit, and and
22:47
Speaker 1: obviously Russ has been screaming that shit at the top
22:49
Speaker 1: of it. You know, Tory Lane just went independent. Yeah,
22:53
Speaker 1: before you shot making in the feats allegedly, but it's
22:58
Speaker 1: kind of been like, you know, I think that we
23:01
Speaker 1: kind of recognize like if you have a cold following,
23:05
Speaker 1: if you have fans like the major label, can they
23:10
Speaker 1: can throw gasoline on a fire that's already going on? Right?
23:13
Speaker 1: But the fire is already there. So it's like talk
23:16
Speaker 1: about how important it is and like just like coming
23:18
Speaker 1: into your own as an independent artist again, like the
23:21
Speaker 1: second go round, Like how does it feel? Like? How
23:24
Speaker 1: are you like? Like is being independent the way for
23:29
Speaker 1: you now? Moving forward? Would you ever sign another deal
23:32
Speaker 1: or like you know what I mean, like the second
23:34
Speaker 1: go round? How's a feeling? Oh, I couldn't say I
23:37
Speaker 1: wouldn't sign another deal in general. I mean, I definitely
23:41
Speaker 1: want to see how this run goes. I don't you know,
23:44
Speaker 1: I have certain expectations for myself, but I just want
23:47
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I definitely want to see
23:49
Speaker 1: how it goes and see how I move forward from there.
23:53
Speaker 1: I am in a good space, you know what I'm
23:55
Speaker 1: saying with my independent situation. I feel like, especially after
23:58
Speaker 1: this project that you know I'm saying, I'll be able
24:00
Speaker 1: to figure out what I want to do and I
24:03
Speaker 1: expect probably to you know what I'm saying, get some
24:06
Speaker 1: calls in, and I'm gonna have to make some decisions.
24:08
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I mean, if it makes sense,
24:12
Speaker 1: because I understand so if the project, it's not the
24:18
Speaker 1: only project I plan on putting out, by the way,
24:20
Speaker 1: but if this project, you know what I'm saying, gets
24:22
Speaker 1: the response that I wanted to get in, it kind
24:26
Speaker 1: of shines the light on the creative and the different
24:30
Speaker 1: ways I can go, and then that sparks an interest
24:34
Speaker 1: in you know what I'm saying, a major label or
24:36
Speaker 1: a bigger independent label or whatever that understands that direction,
24:41
Speaker 1: and I feel comfortable about them understand that, and I
24:43
Speaker 1: can continue to do what I'm doing with that backing,
24:46
Speaker 1: of course, because that's how it was when I first
24:48
Speaker 1: went in, and it felt that, you know what I'm saying,
24:50
Speaker 1: confident about I can continue to do what I want
24:52
Speaker 1: to do and it's going to continue to get back.
24:55
Speaker 1: The only problem that had happened with the label before
24:58
Speaker 1: was like you're saying, what me doing what I wanted
25:01
Speaker 1: to do, but then having to show me record be
25:03
Speaker 1: way more successful than anything I did before compared to
25:06
Speaker 1: probably some independent artists that had a platinum record before
25:09
Speaker 1: they came in, and then you know what I'm saying,
25:11
Speaker 1: I had a lot of success, but for them, they
25:14
Speaker 1: probably still felt like this record did way bigger. So
25:17
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, we'll put more energy into
25:20
Speaker 1: when you give us that type of stuff. If the
25:22
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, a newer situation is like
25:24
Speaker 1: whatever you want to dose blah will give you this, this, this,
25:28
Speaker 1: this and that and make it work for me, then
25:29
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna hear them out.
25:31
Speaker 1: But also if this project, you know what I'm saying,
25:35
Speaker 1: skyrockets and the bag is you know what I'm saying, crazy,
25:39
Speaker 1: keep running up. Might as well keep running it up.
25:41
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be you know what I'm saying, Just
25:43
Speaker 1: jump into it if I could, because I understand the system.
25:45
Speaker 1: So it's not like I don't understand how to run
25:49
Speaker 1: my own situation like a major label or you know
25:52
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, put it together and don't have the relationships,
25:56
Speaker 1: or you know what I'm saying, don't know how to
25:57
Speaker 1: take that bag and reinvest it the right way. So
26:00
Speaker 1: you know, I know how to like I've been doing. Now,
26:02
Speaker 1: I know how to put together this, I know how
26:04
Speaker 1: to shoot videos, I know how to it's not you know,
26:06
Speaker 1: I know how to market, and we know how to
26:08
Speaker 1: get yourself sustained. TikTok. And I mean, yeah, I think
26:11
Speaker 1: that that's like right to do because really, if you
26:13
Speaker 1: think of the major label ship, the really the thing
26:15
Speaker 1: that they could do is just give you an upfront bag.
26:18
Speaker 1: That's really all it is. And that upfront bag you
26:20
Speaker 1: gotta recoup at a shitty rate for the most part
26:22
Speaker 1: most people, you know, but you know they can, like
26:27
Speaker 1: I said, pour gasoline on the fire. But if you
26:29
Speaker 1: kind of got the right partner or you have your
26:31
Speaker 1: ship together on your own, like really, what can they do? Right?
26:35
Speaker 1: But mind anything I probably do, Like with a major label,
26:38
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a one and done. So yeah, like
26:40
Speaker 1: and I'm not going in for no, like three to
26:42
Speaker 1: five five years, Like like, look, I got I got,
26:45
Speaker 1: I got these records, they need infrastructure. Let's let's see
26:48
Speaker 1: how it works and then I'm out and I'll make
26:51
Speaker 1: you guys a bag, because I mean I understood that's
26:53
Speaker 1: kind of what I did for the other label with
26:57
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, getting them such a good
26:59
Speaker 1: enough bag the beginning, I could have, you know what
27:01
Speaker 1: I'm saying, just been off the situation and continue to
27:05
Speaker 1: do something else, and they would have succeeded equally because
27:08
Speaker 1: they what I gave them was good enough to clear
27:11
Speaker 1: out and you know what I'm saying, being the green
27:13
Speaker 1: and dip out. So yeah, they still making that same
27:16
Speaker 1: consistent bread off those records. So you know what I'm saying,
27:19
Speaker 1: that was a successful deal. It was successful. Yeah, I
27:22
Speaker 1: mean they made money. I thought that they really fumbled
27:25
Speaker 1: that last record or as well with Sweety and Wayne. Yeah,
27:29
Speaker 1: that was fumbled. I don't know who to blame it on.
27:31
Speaker 1: We jumped on that record so earlier real and I
27:33
Speaker 1: was like, guys, this is the kidd In record. This
27:35
Speaker 1: is like we gotta go crazy. And then I just
27:39
Speaker 1: felt like the label never backed it up, right. But
27:42
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm saying, always makes me
27:45
Speaker 1: feel good to open the doors and you know what
27:46
Speaker 1: I'm saying, be ahead of the curve and you know
27:49
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, look at everybody on their bumper now. Yeah,
27:54
Speaker 1: I mean shit, that was really with Sweety too. Yeah,
27:57
Speaker 1: I was like, record could have been and uh, what's
28:00
Speaker 1: the name. Didn't he a to be? Yeah, he hated
28:04
Speaker 1: to be and yeah yeah paper on paper, that's a smash.
28:09
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. So, you know, even the
28:13
Speaker 1: record you have a tief your EP a few years ago,
28:16
Speaker 1: I thought it could have been huge, which was still
28:18
Speaker 1: that was still a big record, But I feel like
28:19
Speaker 1: with the use of record, I think there were obviously
28:21
Speaker 1: still some things that could have been lined up and
28:23
Speaker 1: probably situated, so it wasn't. Maybe it's rushed out as
28:28
Speaker 1: I probably wanted it to be out too, as everybody
28:30
Speaker 1: like I needed a record out. We put this together
28:31
Speaker 1: boom boom boom, but probably could have you know what
28:34
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I don't know, done something different. But the
28:36
Speaker 1: Tie record, you know, I think that was still a big,
28:39
Speaker 1: a big record for me. I think at the time
28:41
Speaker 1: what it was was which is weird because yeah, all
28:45
Speaker 1: the fans want a certain situation for me, but I
28:49
Speaker 1: think at that time it was a time maybe when
28:52
Speaker 1: I needed to kind of not switch it up, but
28:55
Speaker 1: just maybe throw something in different right before that that
28:59
Speaker 1: kind of made it missed that right, that sound of
29:02
Speaker 1: that vibe and then come back to it instead of
29:05
Speaker 1: it being maybe something a little too consistent. So people
29:08
Speaker 1: were kind of like all right, but like kind of
29:10
Speaker 1: how when main Chick, which was wasn't my move, but
29:13
Speaker 1: how main Chick came out right off to show me
29:14
Speaker 1: how they weren't able to get to that because they
29:18
Speaker 1: were still here. So like, you know, it's crazy because
29:20
Speaker 1: Main Chick if you would have, like you said, if
29:22
Speaker 1: you would have had a bridge record in between those
29:23
Speaker 1: two records, may Chick probably would have been. I mean,
29:26
Speaker 1: the main Chick was a big record, was still a
29:27
Speaker 1: big record, a big record, but it could have been huge.
29:30
Speaker 1: It could have i think, had its own legs and
29:32
Speaker 1: been crazy instead of feeling like a follow up yeah,
29:35
Speaker 1: because people were still playing show me Yeah, because show
29:38
Speaker 1: Me research so well radio. That was like one of
29:40
Speaker 1: those songs that didn't go away for like a year
29:41
Speaker 1: and a half on the radio because of researched so well.
29:43
Speaker 1: So you dropped the follow up and it sad. It's like, yo,
29:45
Speaker 1: I'm already playing I'm still playing the other ship. Yeah.
29:47
Speaker 1: And then people telling me that to my face was like, yeah,
29:51
Speaker 1: how come they didn't know that that was something that
29:53
Speaker 1: somebody That's not something I was They were supposed to
29:57
Speaker 1: know because that's their job. So yeah, I don't know
30:01
Speaker 1: how they are you finding it easier to, like, cause
30:06
Speaker 1: because like I said, you came into game with this
30:09
Speaker 1: crazy fan base. Since you've come back to being independent
30:12
Speaker 1: and you've been dropping a lot more often. Like I think,
30:15
Speaker 1: was it twenty nineteen you were dropping it felt like
30:16
Speaker 1: once every month, you were putting a new week. We
30:18
Speaker 1: did like one a week. It was a lot of
30:20
Speaker 1: songs in two months. I think you're dropping a lot
30:22
Speaker 1: of records. Have you found it easier to kind of
30:27
Speaker 1: rehash that fan base and like re like kind of
30:30
Speaker 1: because I feel like you, you know, turning into a superstar.
30:34
Speaker 1: Sometimes you lose those core fans because they kind of
30:36
Speaker 1: feel like, ah, well, yeah, you know what I mean.
30:38
Speaker 1: Have you found it easier to try to like bring
30:41
Speaker 1: those guys back into the fold or build that back
30:43
Speaker 1: up a little bit, because now, I mean, it's certain
30:46
Speaker 1: fans I think that are back to rooting for me
30:48
Speaker 1: because they feel like I'm the underdog. And then you know,
30:52
Speaker 1: I could feel like at the end of twenty nineteen
30:55
Speaker 1: when I was had this idea and making this run,
30:57
Speaker 1: and then twenty twenty half and the energy kind of
31:02
Speaker 1: shifted a little bit. Of course, of course, I like
31:04
Speaker 1: had records lined up in different things, but it's a
31:07
Speaker 1: timing thing too. I remember having certain records that I
31:10
Speaker 1: felt like were ready to go, and it was kind
31:12
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, but not anymore, so like we're gonna
31:15
Speaker 1: have to wait until this one is you know what
31:16
Speaker 1: I'm saying, give it four or five months and then
31:18
Speaker 1: see if the energy is back ready for it. So
31:21
Speaker 1: that definitely kind of helped. I mean I helped, but
31:23
Speaker 1: it definitely kind of slowed down my run. But at
31:25
Speaker 1: the same time, I think gave me some more just
31:28
Speaker 1: creative time to get some stuff together and figure some
31:32
Speaker 1: stuff out. And in the midst of recording this project too,
31:35
Speaker 1: I think I was able to open up just getting
31:39
Speaker 1: back into more sinks. Sinks. I don't know if a
31:42
Speaker 1: lot of people know, like movies, TV shows, commercials and stuff,
31:46
Speaker 1: those are big. I don't know, Like I've always had
31:49
Speaker 1: a niche with just writing records that just you know
31:51
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, resonate over there with that sinking game,
31:54
Speaker 1: and I got back into that, and you know what
31:56
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I think I'm on because whatever I've done
32:00
Speaker 1: like two I've had like two fast and Furious Movies
32:03
Speaker 1: were working on another one. They you know what I'm saying,
32:04
Speaker 1: people were sending Space Jam ideas and this and that,
32:07
Speaker 1: and it was doing trolls and all these different movies
32:11
Speaker 1: was coming out, and I think, I, you know what
32:12
Speaker 1: I'm saying, just tap back in and just writing for
32:15
Speaker 1: that type of game. And so your records, the records
32:18
Speaker 1: you write for, like like, are those like your records
32:20
Speaker 1: ended up on that stuff or is sometimes just stuff
32:22
Speaker 1: that you write that ends up someone else doing them
32:24
Speaker 1: or so like this. So I've had a couple of
32:27
Speaker 1: different ones, like sometimes you'll get the list that'll tell
32:29
Speaker 1: you what they need and then you get, you know
32:31
Speaker 1: what I'm saying to it, just start writing a bunch
32:33
Speaker 1: of different stuff to send it through. And then I've
32:35
Speaker 1: had records that like there was a record I did
32:39
Speaker 1: on the Ism project for the album that I lost
32:43
Speaker 1: to a movie sink because you know what I'm saying
32:46
Speaker 1: ISNM played it for his people and they were like, Yo,
32:48
Speaker 1: that would be perfect for this movie and I was like, yeah,
32:51
Speaker 1: but that's for my album. So like that was another
32:53
Speaker 1: thing that happens where it has set me back to
32:55
Speaker 1: because I think losing that one record, which I felt
32:58
Speaker 1: like I needed and it had a and sounds set
33:01
Speaker 1: me back and I had to replace that with like
33:03
Speaker 1: I need so that happens. Does that song then just
33:06
Speaker 1: belong to the movie company. Yeah, So like they're like, hey, look,
33:09
Speaker 1: we're putting this in the movie. It's ours if we
33:11
Speaker 1: put it out on the soundtrack. Yeah. So, like I
33:13
Speaker 1: sold it to them, and then they you know what
33:15
Speaker 1: I'm saying through you know what I'm saying. Whoever, they
33:18
Speaker 1: wanted a couple different rappers on there and maybe had
33:20
Speaker 1: somebody racing the hook blah, and then you know what
33:23
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I send it to me. I added some stuff,
33:26
Speaker 1: or you should put some ad libs here, you know
33:27
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We still work on the record together,
33:29
Speaker 1: but once it's there, it's it's there to do it,
33:31
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They went for the movie,
33:33
Speaker 1: right right, right right? Yeah. I think the scene game
33:35
Speaker 1: is a part of the game that a lot of
33:37
Speaker 1: artists don't understand or like understand even how to get
33:40
Speaker 1: involved in that. Because you'll hear some records you're be like, man,
33:42
Speaker 1: this should be great on a movie or something. I
33:44
Speaker 1: don't even people understand that world. It's like it feels
33:46
Speaker 1: like a different world, right, the movies, the sports is
33:49
Speaker 1: big for me. Like I had the Dodger championship song
33:54
Speaker 1: and the song that they play that's a bad series opener. Yeah,
33:58
Speaker 1: so the Dodgers just shoot a bag, you know what
34:00
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Some tickets maybe, but uh it will and
34:06
Speaker 1: then uh so like I get those I've had different
34:09
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like championship spots, video games
34:11
Speaker 1: like all that stuff. It's real fun to me, Like
34:13
Speaker 1: that was something that growing up I always wanted, so
34:15
Speaker 1: like I always wanted to have a song on the radio,
34:17
Speaker 1: but then like I got a song in the video games. Yeah.
34:19
Speaker 1: The video game ship is like could you we always
34:21
Speaker 1: be playing Madden or two K and it's or even
34:24
Speaker 1: like Tony Hawk when I was growing up, like all
34:26
Speaker 1: them songs like you Knew by Heart by Heart Bro's
34:29
Speaker 1: songs I know with the records at all. It's songs
34:31
Speaker 1: I know from like Dave Mirror that I've never Yeah,
34:35
Speaker 1: because it's like you play the game so much, like, oh,
34:38
Speaker 1: this ship is crazy playing. I was walking around singing
34:40
Speaker 1: these songs friends, like what is this? Did you play
34:43
Speaker 1: the new Tony Hawk like remastered edition that came out
34:45
Speaker 1: not okay, so I want to I had to buy.
34:48
Speaker 1: I had to step back from the video games for
34:50
Speaker 1: a minute. Just diving in. I'm bad. Once I dive in,
34:53
Speaker 1: I dive in. And then especially during the pandemic, especially
34:56
Speaker 1: during the pandemic. So for me, I had to step
34:58
Speaker 1: back from the video games, especially when I was doing
35:00
Speaker 1: this project, because I was I got lost in there,
35:03
Speaker 1: locked game. I play of course two K so two
35:08
Speaker 1: K got the whole story mode. So once you get
35:10
Speaker 1: locked into that him, I'm out here living hoop dreams.
35:14
Speaker 1: And then anything fighting game like UFC is my joint.
35:17
Speaker 1: Uh you know, Call of Duty's. I play all the
35:20
Speaker 1: regular games, the ones I get locked in on, be
35:22
Speaker 1: like the Batman, Spider Man, Spider Man Rocked the Switch,
35:26
Speaker 1: Super Marios is all fire. But I had to step
35:29
Speaker 1: back for Arkham series games were sucking five fire like
35:34
Speaker 1: my some of my favorite games. That's when I found
35:36
Speaker 1: out I had a problem. I think I went like
35:38
Speaker 1: a month and I was like, yeah, I've been playing
35:39
Speaker 1: every day you get I had every any of the
35:42
Speaker 1: new consoles, the PS five Man PS five, I don't
35:46
Speaker 1: rock with Xboxxbox Man you know, I'm not gonna lie.
35:50
Speaker 1: PS five ain't got no game yet, just like they
35:52
Speaker 1: did four. Neither of them got games yet. It's like bro,
35:55
Speaker 1: I told my son he was so hyped to get
35:57
Speaker 1: I mean, I got a bunch during Christmas, but I
35:59
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you realize, like there's no games yet.
36:02
Speaker 1: That's what they did with PS four last time. It
36:04
Speaker 1: was like you get Call of Duty two K, Spider Man, yeah,
36:08
Speaker 1: and two other games and then you got to wait
36:10
Speaker 1: six months go to no fucking games. Got a way
36:13
Speaker 1: to the summer and like low key that. I mean,
36:16
Speaker 1: the graphics are better, but unless you got that crazy TV,
36:20
Speaker 1: like if you just got a normal four K TV,
36:23
Speaker 1: you barely can notice the difference. Difference. You gotta have
36:26
Speaker 1: like an ill ass TV with this type of rep.
36:29
Speaker 1: My boy was breaking it down. He's like, look for
36:30
Speaker 1: you to really like notice the jump in graphics, you
36:32
Speaker 1: gotta really have like a fucking three four thousand R TV. Yeah,
36:36
Speaker 1: just to notice the difference. I could imagine it's somebody
36:38
Speaker 1: who bought a PS five and my son's in his
36:40
Speaker 1: room on a thirty two inch fucking ten eighty P TV, like, yeah,
36:43
Speaker 1: the graphics look better, I'm like, they look the same. Yeah,
36:45
Speaker 1: I got every same game. I guy. Yeah, it's like
36:47
Speaker 1: pretty much the same fucking thing. It's it's kind of crazy. Yo.
36:50
Speaker 1: So you've sold over fifteen million records through your career.
36:56
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm bad with the numbers, but that
36:58
Speaker 1: sounds Yeah, that sounds good. That's a lot. If I
37:01
Speaker 1: could count like that is that's that's man, blessing. Do
37:05
Speaker 1: you ever like reflect on like that's a lot? Bro? Like,
37:09
Speaker 1: some people never go platinum in their life. Fifteen million
37:12
Speaker 1: is a number that you could stop making music tomorrow
37:16
Speaker 1: and be like, man, I sold fifteen million records in life.
37:18
Speaker 1: You ever like think like shit like us worldwide? I
37:21
Speaker 1: don't know, because the thing is to that that fifth
37:23
Speaker 1: Harmony record. Hopefully it'll go diamond at some point in
37:25
Speaker 1: my life and I'll be like, I'm part of a
37:27
Speaker 1: diamond record. How many feel like they're like seven million worldwide?
37:31
Speaker 1: How many records in that period? Yeah, that's crazy. It
37:34
Speaker 1: might be diamond worldwide, But it's like that record was
37:37
Speaker 1: probably one of the biggest. I need to update that plaque.
37:40
Speaker 1: I probably only got the two million one yeah, but no,
37:43
Speaker 1: but like you know, that's a lot Man, that's a
37:45
Speaker 1: big that's a big career. I mean, you know, and
37:47
Speaker 1: for you to still keep going. But do you ever reflect, like, yo,
37:50
Speaker 1: like everything I've done so far, it's impressive, man. I
37:53
Speaker 1: know sometimes sometimes it's like probably easy to like second
37:57
Speaker 1: guess yourself or doubt yourself when you need the hottest
37:59
Speaker 1: artist anymore. But like, bro, like you've had like a
38:02
Speaker 1: crazy run so far, Nah, I get I definitely get
38:04
Speaker 1: time to reflect on it more now, and I think
38:07
Speaker 1: back like nice little run, especially when I think about
38:10
Speaker 1: the years in so like I look at other guys
38:12
Speaker 1: and how long they actually been in the game, and
38:15
Speaker 1: I think about like when my first project dropped, when
38:18
Speaker 1: people actually start paying attention, like twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, Like,
38:22
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, wasn't like that long ago
38:25
Speaker 1: compared to some people who've been in the game for
38:27
Speaker 1: like twenty twenty five years. I feel like I still got,
38:30
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, some grinding that I could do.
38:32
Speaker 1: I feel like I still got some time of success,
38:34
Speaker 1: especially when I see like a lot of the old
38:36
Speaker 1: heads still just doing big things later in their career,
38:40
Speaker 1: like a lot of time, multiple runs, multiple runs. I've
38:43
Speaker 1: seen so many people have just multiple legendary runs. You've
38:47
Speaker 1: seen like Fat Joe keep coming out perfect example, Fat
38:51
Speaker 1: Joe keep coming out, Gucci Man to keep coming out
38:54
Speaker 1: with something crazy. You know what I'm saying. Those are
38:55
Speaker 1: people that you know, you look up in like two Chains,
38:57
Speaker 1: still coming out like everybody, even like someone independent like
39:00
Speaker 1: Freddy Gibbs, Freddie Gibbs. You know what I'm saying too.
39:03
Speaker 1: You see people who run right now, that's crazy, right,
39:06
Speaker 1: People who you've seen years in maybe slow down or
39:08
Speaker 1: you didn't think it was getting what they needed to
39:10
Speaker 1: get as far as respecting and getting nominated for Grammys
39:13
Speaker 1: and stuff that makes you you have no choice but
39:15
Speaker 1: to feel inspired and motivated, like, oh I got that
39:18
Speaker 1: time to figure stuff out. Not saying I'm just sitting back,
39:21
Speaker 1: but it's like I got time to steal, you know
39:23
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, thrive. So have you felt the narrative?
39:27
Speaker 1: I know you, you know you're you pay attention, but
39:29
Speaker 1: like there's been means and shit like what happened to
39:32
Speaker 1: kid inc My kid ink fell off? Yeah? Is that
39:35
Speaker 1: something that bothers you or is it something that motivates you?
39:39
Speaker 1: Or do you even pay attention to it. It's a
39:41
Speaker 1: little bit of both. The reason that bothers me is
39:43
Speaker 1: because I feel like like we were talking about having
39:45
Speaker 1: certain you know what I'm saying things aligned. I feel
39:48
Speaker 1: like I've had somebody say, you know when you're dropping
39:51
Speaker 1: something new, and then for me, I'll be like, I
39:53
Speaker 1: just dropped something new two weeks ago, how did what
39:56
Speaker 1: made that count? Is new for you? Or or me
39:59
Speaker 1: taking it serious as this was a record I wanted
40:01
Speaker 1: to put out, or you just think I'm just throwing
40:04
Speaker 1: stuff out like you know. So I think it's definitely
40:07
Speaker 1: still up to me. I guess to I guess put
40:10
Speaker 1: that energy into certain records. But you know, it'll bother
40:14
Speaker 1: me to an extent of I don't want nobody thinking
40:17
Speaker 1: I'm chilling at the crib like working. I'm blessed, but
40:21
Speaker 1: I'm not ever content with just sitting at the crib
40:24
Speaker 1: and just going we collecting all these voices and da
40:28
Speaker 1: da da, and it's like, nah, I'm at the crib
40:30
Speaker 1: working constantly, thinking, being creative, trying to figure out what's
40:33
Speaker 1: something new I could do where everything is going, especially
40:36
Speaker 1: because I'm somebody who doesn't really like sit back on
40:39
Speaker 1: my old records and look at them and think about
40:41
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Oh this is something I
40:43
Speaker 1: need to redo again, or what if this would have
40:46
Speaker 1: done this? I'm I'm always moving forward, so like people
40:50
Speaker 1: will come over the crib and hear everything I got
40:52
Speaker 1: stashed in they can they like why yeah, dada da,
40:54
Speaker 1: But it's you know what I'm saying, figuring everything out
40:56
Speaker 1: and just getting not wanting that to happen where people
41:00
Speaker 1: are overlooking records. It's definitely you know what I'm saying,
41:02
Speaker 1: They puts me in that place like all right, I
41:05
Speaker 1: don't want to just put this out and I know
41:06
Speaker 1: it's a smash, but it seems like, you know what
41:08
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I got to figure out the way to
41:09
Speaker 1: get back in people's face or build the momentum in
41:13
Speaker 1: the right way to where they just automatically it's back
41:16
Speaker 1: to clicking and then they go, oh that's crazy, instead
41:19
Speaker 1: of being like just not hearing it. I think it's
41:23
Speaker 1: like you drop this project. Just keep dropping, bro, that
41:26
Speaker 1: with the songs and the videos, and that's I got
41:30
Speaker 1: this project done. I think I had already. Guys have
41:33
Speaker 1: been shooting hell of videos of Maddy J shooting videos
41:35
Speaker 1: with my bro Maddy J. I had already started another
41:40
Speaker 1: like EP kind of project that's gonna be with somebody else,
41:44
Speaker 1: doing like a mix of not really hip hop or
41:47
Speaker 1: something just more I think a little bit more worldly
41:49
Speaker 1: type music. And then I plan on dropping probably Up
41:53
Speaker 1: and Away too this year by that summer hopefully, and
41:57
Speaker 1: then uh, what's up with It's the Rumor Joint coming soon?
42:01
Speaker 1: The Rumor record is definitely coming soon. We're just getting
42:04
Speaker 1: everything together. That's definitely one of those ones that was
42:07
Speaker 1: a big record that needs some clearances and it's gonna
42:10
Speaker 1: take some business time. But I think everything is set
42:13
Speaker 1: in stone. I got a couple things I need to
42:15
Speaker 1: finish on the mixing side of things, because I'm real
42:18
Speaker 1: hands on with that. So I got the session at
42:20
Speaker 1: the crib probably you know what I'm saying, tweaks some stuff,
42:22
Speaker 1: but it's already lined up to you know what I'm saying, go,
42:25
Speaker 1: I just got to hit my deadline. If there's an
42:27
Speaker 1: artist that's watching this that's on the come up, would
42:30
Speaker 1: you give them advice to stay independent or go with
42:33
Speaker 1: a major. Let's say they got a little bit of momentum.
42:39
Speaker 1: It's different for different artists. Everyone's situation is different, but
42:43
Speaker 1: because it's certain artists who I never think should go
42:45
Speaker 1: to a major, and there's certain ones who I think
42:47
Speaker 1: need to go to a major so they get the looks.
42:49
Speaker 1: So who do you think, like like like talk about
42:52
Speaker 1: the type of artists you think would need to go
42:53
Speaker 1: to a major and or should stay independent. Like an example,
42:59
Speaker 1: I think, like from my perspective, if you have like
43:02
Speaker 1: a song that goes viral, but you really don't have
43:04
Speaker 1: a following, like you might want to go the major route, right,
43:07
Speaker 1: because then you they'll maximize that record because that record
43:11
Speaker 1: might be the only opportunity you have. Let's say that
43:14
Speaker 1: Board in the House kid, right, Yeah, that record that
43:17
Speaker 1: went viral. I haven't heard from him since, but he
43:20
Speaker 1: signed a deal and then they put the Tiger on
43:22
Speaker 1: the remix, and I think that was probably a smart
43:24
Speaker 1: play for him. No, definitely a smart play if it's
43:26
Speaker 1: somebody who's got a crazy following like Russ or somebody,
43:30
Speaker 1: or let's use let's use like blast last, Like is
43:34
Speaker 1: he signed to a major, No, he's got a partnership
43:38
Speaker 1: with Rebel Music. I think that that's somebody probably who's
43:42
Speaker 1: really dope and will succeed doing their independent thing. But
43:46
Speaker 1: if he was signed to a major, could he be
43:48
Speaker 1: world wide artist? Absolutely? So you think or like, that's
43:52
Speaker 1: like saying if Roddy rich didn't sign to a major
43:55
Speaker 1: or just stayed independent, do I think you know what
43:58
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, I think Roddy Richard of major is
44:02
Speaker 1: so you blasted? A major is essentially what a slidfyd
44:06
Speaker 1: is a superstar? Yeah, yeah, I think so, because he
44:09
Speaker 1: has those type of records that I think get overlooks
44:12
Speaker 1: that are way that are huge, you know what I'm saying.
44:15
Speaker 1: Or you know what I'm saying, radio ready or just
44:17
Speaker 1: a single that everyone will like just because it sounds
44:20
Speaker 1: sonically just good. Have you worked with have you got
44:23
Speaker 1: to lique him at all? No? I feel like you guys, Yeah,
44:26
Speaker 1: I think so. I was definitely a fan early and
44:30
Speaker 1: then you know what I'm saying, I'm somebody too, cause
44:32
Speaker 1: it's like I'll be a fan of people and then
44:36
Speaker 1: once they get like their wave going, I'll hit people
44:39
Speaker 1: up and be like congrats to this and that, and
44:41
Speaker 1: then I don't I feel like I'd be seeming like
44:43
Speaker 1: the person who hopped on the wave more so when
44:45
Speaker 1: I'm just like seeing it like from the outside like thing.
44:48
Speaker 1: I watched you grind up. I remember when I was
44:50
Speaker 1: the only person listening to you and then I hit you,
44:52
Speaker 1: and then you might think like, dang, they just trying
44:54
Speaker 1: to hop on the wave. Have you reached out to Blast?
44:57
Speaker 1: I don't remember if I reached out to Black. I know,
45:00
Speaker 1: I feel like I might have sent Blasts the DM
45:02
Speaker 1: or something, or because I work. I got a record
45:05
Speaker 1: with Bino, Bino's crazy. Yeah, I got a record with
45:07
Speaker 1: Bino right now, and I remember that's kind of where
45:10
Speaker 1: I heard Blast was from. Beano had a record. So
45:14
Speaker 1: but now I planned on reaching out. You know what
45:16
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I was letting it just that might be
45:18
Speaker 1: a vibe you and Blast. I think that'll be easy
45:21
Speaker 1: vibe because I hear when I hear it, I hear
45:23
Speaker 1: already what I would would do, and how comfortable that
45:26
Speaker 1: would be. Hey, he's working, man, I know he works
45:28
Speaker 1: with Mazie a lot. You know, obviously him and Bino
45:30
Speaker 1: got I think they're working on us follow up to
45:32
Speaker 1: their tape. But you know he's going crazy right now.
45:34
Speaker 1: He's definitely going crazy. It's dope to see that, for sure. Yeah,
45:37
Speaker 1: that'd be that'd be wild that'd be that might be
45:40
Speaker 1: like that has to happen. Yeah, I think that has
45:42
Speaker 1: to happen. I've been honestly, I was thinking about it,
45:44
Speaker 1: like like, if you're going to come back with like
45:46
Speaker 1: one of them R and B type records, has got
45:47
Speaker 1: to be blast. Yeah. Yeah, i'ma have I'm have hooked
45:50
Speaker 1: that up. Yeah, that'd be crazy, that'll be fire. Well, look,
45:54
Speaker 1: the album is out Friday, Friday, Thursday night midnight Thursday.
45:59
Speaker 1: Actually this will come out next Monday, so the albumill
46:02
Speaker 1: already be out. Actually, I don't know when this is
46:04
Speaker 1: gonna come out. I'm ask Will when he wants to
46:06
Speaker 1: drop this, because we might drop it Friday. Yeah, but
46:08
Speaker 1: you know it'll be out out album out alive thirteen records,
46:14
Speaker 1: three already out, so ten brand new records. Y'all never heard?
46:18
Speaker 1: Videos coming, videos coming. I gotta you know what I'm saying,
46:21
Speaker 1: Night and day video drop day at the album, and
46:24
Speaker 1: then I wanted to stack up a bunch of videos.
46:29
Speaker 1: I got a couple of different promo videos for some
46:31
Speaker 1: of the records. But I kind of want to take
46:33
Speaker 1: that first week and see what people are rocking with
46:37
Speaker 1: and make sure I give them that first one metrics
46:40
Speaker 1: and be like, all right, this is what they're fucking with,
46:42
Speaker 1: like this is what they want to see a video
46:43
Speaker 1: to right now, and then go back to just doing
46:46
Speaker 1: a video for everything. By the way, did you ever
46:50
Speaker 1: find out who fucking got in your house? I don't.
46:56
Speaker 1: I didn't find out who got in my house. I
46:57
Speaker 1: know what they look like. I've seen, I've seen in
47:00
Speaker 1: the screen. I just didn't know if like anything ever
47:02
Speaker 1: came to that, you're ever getting your ship back or
47:04
Speaker 1: they were hitting houses like in your neighborhood, right, yeah,
47:06
Speaker 1: they was. They had a whole little thing going on.
47:08
Speaker 1: And then you know, the police came to the crib.
47:10
Speaker 1: They they thought I did it, like damn the insurance
47:14
Speaker 1: they was giving me to talk and I almost got
47:16
Speaker 1: hot with them in the crib. And then uh, after that,
47:20
Speaker 1: they had like some some uh I don't even know
47:23
Speaker 1: what you call, some police officer or whoever detective there
47:28
Speaker 1: we go, i'muck police, some detective I was supposed to
47:30
Speaker 1: call me and uh give me the rundown of what
47:34
Speaker 1: was going on and updates, And then every time I
47:37
Speaker 1: tried to hit them up, there was never no updates
47:40
Speaker 1: like that, And I wasn't trying to really keep up
47:41
Speaker 1: with the police like that, so I just kind of
47:43
Speaker 1: let it go. These fools I got jacked. They jacked
47:47
Speaker 1: my whip I was at the bank, followed me out
47:51
Speaker 1: of the bank. I stopped at the UPS store. While
47:54
Speaker 1: I was in the UPS store, these fools blew out
47:56
Speaker 1: my back window took fifteen grand cash out of my trunk.
48:00
Speaker 1: The cops had their car and they couldn't like the
48:03
Speaker 1: license plate was like fuzzy, but they could have figured
48:05
Speaker 1: it out. They had video of the girl who followed
48:07
Speaker 1: me out of the bank and got in that car,
48:10
Speaker 1: and I had never heard. I'm like, bro, did y'all
48:11
Speaker 1: even try to get my ship back? So be honest,
48:14
Speaker 1: I tried way harder than them for that first week
48:17
Speaker 1: and me too, Like I had got to a point
48:18
Speaker 1: where I'm the one who got the footage because I
48:21
Speaker 1: went I went to the gas station that I stopped at,
48:23
Speaker 1: and I had to chip off the guys. Look, give
48:25
Speaker 1: me the footage. They had to follow me here because
48:27
Speaker 1: I went here before I went to the other spot
48:28
Speaker 1: where I got robbed, and I had to give I
48:30
Speaker 1: gave the cops the footage, like I got the footage
48:32
Speaker 1: that was right that's the same thing I did. I
48:34
Speaker 1: gave cops more footage, and I went to the neighbors
48:36
Speaker 1: and it was one of those things where they were
48:39
Speaker 1: supposed to be able to go through some other people's
48:42
Speaker 1: cameras in the neighborhood and they be able to spot
48:44
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I saw the car,
48:47
Speaker 1: but I couldn't see no plates. In the way that
48:49
Speaker 1: they did, it's a whole run. They got a whole
48:52
Speaker 1: route out the neighborhood, through the neighborhood where they don't
48:54
Speaker 1: have to know what they were doing, go straight to
48:56
Speaker 1: the freeway. I lost like, I lost like five chains.
49:02
Speaker 1: I think my girl lost like two chains. Bracelet. To
49:06
Speaker 1: be honest, I did have insurance, but they wasn't covering that.
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Speaker 1: They didn't cover it. They didn't cover anything. I had
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Speaker 1: paperwork and all that ship and I went through you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, everything I needed to go through,
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Speaker 1: but they wasn't covering it. Learning experience, man, Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: learned from it. Yeah, look, kid Ink, appreciate you coming through.
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Speaker 1: New album. Hey, let's let's for the radio show. Introduce
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Speaker 1: a record man, which I don't know, Uh, it'll be
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Speaker 1: two out whichever one you are gonna have clean for me.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, you just need to give you that
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Speaker 1: today too, all right? Uh y'all, what's up this? Your
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Speaker 1: boy kid ink right here and this is my new record,
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Speaker 1: red Light Off the Project Alive. You already know what
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Speaker 1: it is. We ain't here baby Alumni back game, one
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Speaker 1: time Boulet Kid. Whoop whoop,