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Set 2: Ben McCollum is the Curt Cignetti of CBB (w/ Adam Lefkoe) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Adam Lefgo of TNT is with us.
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  Speaker 2: He's also in a group chat of mine, a tennis
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  Speaker 2: group chat of mine, which I don't really participate too much. Really,
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  Speaker 2: my numbers on there's probably one you don't have saved.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of those three or five that you don't recognize.
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  Speaker 3: I've always wondered what it was like for the non
• 0:19
  Speaker 3: participators to be getting like two am texts about tennis
• 0:23
  Speaker 3: tournaments in Thailand, and I'm just like, they have to
• 0:26
  Speaker 3: be so annoyed these Tommy Paul takes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love blowers.
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  Speaker 4: He had to get roped into this group text. How'd
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  Speaker 4: you get roped into it?
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  Speaker 5: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Mike Ryan is a very powerful human being, and he
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  Speaker 2: just talked about it one day and made it sound
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  Speaker 2: like the best group chat ever, and so I asked
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  Speaker 2: to be a party.
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  Speaker 4: He has a group chat about shitting, I mean everything
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  Speaker 4: that he put me in a group chat about like
• 0:50
  Speaker 4: dads right Like I was about to have a kid,
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  Speaker 4: and I realized I don't care about any of your kids.
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  Speaker 3: And it felt really creepy to be getting all these
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  Speaker 3: texts about like look at my one year old.
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  Speaker 5: Daughter, and I'm like, dude, and I and then I
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  Speaker 5: was like, how do I just leave a conversation with
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  Speaker 5: these dads? Share it?
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm out, Yes, it's great, dada sphere.
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  Speaker 1: So last year, there has nothing to do with that
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  Speaker 1: text thread.
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  Speaker 2: Last year I saw a tweet it said I'm just
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: now realizing that Adam Lefgo and Jared Greenberg are different people,
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  Speaker 2: and it had this sort of mind blown emoji and
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  Speaker 2: I never confused you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Ever, I'm two.
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  Speaker 2: Last year at the All Star Game, I was at
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  Speaker 2: the game or at the event whatever, Saturday, and this
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  Speaker 2: was shortly after you, I think, did some glorilla on
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  Speaker 2: the air. Yes, right, and so that kind of got
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of viral virility to it. And so
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  Speaker 2: I walked up to Jared, knowing full well, he is
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  Speaker 2: not the studio host. You were the studio host. You
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  Speaker 2: were the one who did the glorilla, and I just
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  Speaker 2: had a huge brain fart and I started talking about it,
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  Speaker 2: and he immediately went from that fake face you give
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  Speaker 2: everybody when you're seeing them for the first time in
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  Speaker 2: a long time to how he really felt, and he
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  Speaker 2: was like that was left go and he turned around
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  Speaker 2: and like I didn't want to look at him again.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, no, I have done the thing
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  Speaker 2: that everybody else, well a couple of people in the
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  Speaker 2: world have done, and I'm just curious.
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  Speaker 1: Am I a jerk for that? Or do you get
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  Speaker 1: that off it?
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  Speaker 5: A few things.
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  Speaker 3: Number one, because my wife is Nigeria and she reminds
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  Speaker 3: me that a lot of white people do look alike,
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  Speaker 3: even though he don't think we look alike. So that's
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  Speaker 3: always helpful too. You gave me some PTSD. I was
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  Speaker 3: in the sauna at my gym in Brooklyn and this
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  Speaker 3: guy looked at me and he goes Jared Greenberg, and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, nah, bro, it's no, it's it's uh. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I love Jared, He's awesome. But that glorilla thing is
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  Speaker 3: also the reason that my son thinks when he sees TNT,
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: he says bowl Bowl because I did a bowl Bowl freestyle.
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  Speaker 3: He my son also when he sees Shack says bowl
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  Speaker 3: because that freestyle went like triple platinum in my house.
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  Speaker 5: My son wants to listen to it all the time,
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  Speaker 5: but not too money. Jared Greenberg's I also get the sun.
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  Speaker 3: From weekend at Bernie's. But that guy's like older now,
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  Speaker 3: so it's not the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: I have to rewatch it. Okay, yes, yes, I see
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  Speaker 1: it right.
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  Speaker 2: I just felt like such a tide. I can never
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  Speaker 2: see Jared again. I'm just I can't even believe that
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  Speaker 2: I'm admitting this to you.
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  Speaker 1: But no, I love it. Left left go.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so happy for you because I turn on my television,
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  Speaker 4: you're there. You're the studio host for the NCAA Tournament.
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  Speaker 4: I've known you for a long time. It puts a
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  Speaker 4: smile on my face. And what I see as I
• 3:41
  Speaker 4: get older here and people are starting to ask me
• 3:43
  Speaker 4: for advice about how to navigate through this industry is
• 3:47
  Speaker 4: I got into this business wanting one thing, and that
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  Speaker 4: was to do a radio show. And I wanted to
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  Speaker 4: create a radio show that was appointment listening, meaning I
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  Speaker 4: used to make sure I made sure I was in.
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  Speaker 1: My car one o'clock micing the Mad Dog.
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  Speaker 4: And I wanted to try to create a show that
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  Speaker 4: had that kind of feeling. And Dan and I were
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  Speaker 4: able to do it. But I remember feeling career bliss
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of it, because I'm like, holy shit,
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  Speaker 4: I've arrived here and they're paying me a lot of
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  Speaker 4: money to do something that is so much fun. And
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  Speaker 4: what I see on your face when you're doing this stuff,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's tennis, whether it's the NCAA tournament, is a
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  Speaker 4: guy who has achieved his goals. I know you're not
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  Speaker 4: done yet, You're always pushing forward, you're always building, But
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  Speaker 4: that's what I see. A guy who's relaxed, a guy
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  Speaker 4: who has fulfilled his goals.
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  Speaker 1: And is doing exactly what it is he wants to do.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the first time that I filled in for
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  Speaker 3: Ernie and there was like a clip where we showed
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  Speaker 3: Zion and he didn't look great and Chuck was like.
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  Speaker 5: Man, that looks like me and Shaq had a baby.
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  Speaker 3: And the clip went viral, and like I sometimes feel
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  Speaker 3: that when I'm like in bed and like a great
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: insight clip comes up and an I'm on it and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, that was all like getting the host
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  Speaker 3: inside really was the thing I always wanted, and since
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  Speaker 3: I got to do it now, it's all like free cash, right.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, like like you're saying, there are those moments.
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  Speaker 3: There will be like a time during the French Open
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  Speaker 3: or March Madness where I'm in it and and it's
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  Speaker 3: usually when like an analyst is talking and I look
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  Speaker 3: and for some reason, I don't see the legs.
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  Speaker 5: I don't see the cameras. I just see all the.
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  Speaker 3: Behind the scenes people and they're all like really paying attention,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, damn, I'm doing that thing.
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing the thing. And that is a that's a
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  Speaker 5: cool feeling. It's cool that you can recognize that.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, well yeah, I mean listen, I've experienced it.
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  Speaker 1: I know it. I know what it feels like.
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  Speaker 4: It's the greatest it's the greatest professional feeling in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Because you would do that shit for free, would you not?
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  Speaker 5: No? I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: That's that hell. No, it's so expensive.
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  Speaker 5: What are you talking about for free?
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  Speaker 3: If I was your boss, I'm playing that in negotiations.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, really, so he looks that happy?
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  Speaker 1: He does.
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  Speaker 4: He looks at he wanted this in the worst way
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  Speaker 4: and he's arrived there, and that's a great feeling.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you would do it for free. I'm shocked
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  Speaker 1: that you wouldn't. To be honest, I.
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  Speaker 3: Would say this if I if I like that question,
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  Speaker 3: if you hit the lottery, would you still go to work?
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  Speaker 5: And I would do that? But like bro, I would
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  Speaker 5: be broke, and I can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be freestyle wrapping for his life.
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  Speaker 5: All right on the corner mere like Bowl Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Rahaps I took it too far? Sorry about that? Go
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  Speaker 1: ahead is yeah No.
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  Speaker 2: On that note, I'm trying to figure out which is
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  Speaker 2: your favorite moment of the tournament so far, because to me,
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  Speaker 2: it felt like when the Florida final boss turned into
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  Speaker 2: a Nebraska final boss that you guys love that, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That was I can't.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing about the NCAA tournament doesn't make sense,
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  Speaker 3: Like Iowa like the nine seed. They're the team that
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  Speaker 3: out rebounded Florida and then they go and out shoot Nebraska.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're and so none of it makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: And it's as Jalen Rose as it's one shot, one kill,
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  Speaker 3: so like anything can happen. I thought the Dylan Darlin
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  Speaker 3: ending with Saint John's was an amazing ending. I think
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  Speaker 3: the first high point game before at least I realized
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  Speaker 3: that their white guy that doesn't shoot twos is actually
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: twenty six years old and they're like the richest like
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  Speaker 3: college in the country.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, Wow, what a Cinderella.
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  Speaker 3: But I think my favorite moment right now is the
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  Speaker 3: thirty seconds after the game when the coach is doing
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  Speaker 3: the postgame interview and the players are like, I get
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  Speaker 3: a chance to throw a sweaty towel on my coach.
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  Speaker 5: It's low key becoming my favorite thing.
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  Speaker 3: And there was one that was really bad when Nebraska
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  Speaker 3: beat Vanderbilt. Fred Hoiberg's there and one of the players
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  Speaker 3: takes off his sweaty headband and tries to put it
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  Speaker 3: on Fred Hoiberg, and it's like you see it dripping,
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  Speaker 3: and Hoiberg turns around and goes stop and then the
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  Speaker 3: player just in the back And though, I dude, that's
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: the thing about sports I love is the awkward moments
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  Speaker 3: because I've seen so many shots that I've seen so
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  Speaker 3: many wins and losses that like knowing that this dude
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  Speaker 3: got yelled at by this coach for three years and
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  Speaker 3: finally he's like.
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  Speaker 5: That puts at towel on him. I think that's hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: So, speaking of wet towels on Fred Hoiberg, yes, he
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  Speaker 2: left four players out there yesterday and a very crucial
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  Speaker 2: possession and this was this was supposed to be the
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  Speaker 2: feel good tournament for Freddy won his first NCAA tournament
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  Speaker 2: game they went on the little run whatever, and then
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  Speaker 2: that happens, Like that's gonna weigh more than the first win, right,
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna linger for a long.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think because I think if it had been
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  Speaker 3: if that was like at the buzzer, because I think
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  Speaker 3: I would have been the end of the game of
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  Speaker 3: like a sixteen to five run, So it was like
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  Speaker 3: kind of part of it. I also don't necessarily know
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  Speaker 3: if it's his fault, like that might have just been
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  Speaker 3: a coach being like I'm gonna take the blame because
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  Speaker 3: the kid was still sitting on the bench, so.
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  Speaker 1: The heck no, And like, yeah, but the head coach
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  Speaker 1: is in charge there. You got to know that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you just did. You got totans account right,
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  Speaker 4: how many are out there? It's five, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But I just think you the brask defense have been
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  Speaker 3: hearing for like fifty years.
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  Speaker 5: You're the only team that hasn't won. And then you
• 9:14
  Speaker 5: go to the sweet sixteen.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're good, but there definitely are like Kansas
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  Speaker 3: like that. None of that season feels good the way
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  Speaker 3: that that ended. And then there's a few other teams.
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  Speaker 3: I think you have these great seasons and when it
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: kind of collapses in the first weekend, it turns a
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  Speaker 3: great season into a mediocre season because we only judge
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: it based on what happens.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 4: How excited are you for tonight because it's the rare
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  Speaker 4: final four?
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  Speaker 1: Before the Final four, I mean that East Region is loaded.
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  Speaker 4: Saint John's Duke, Michigan State, Yukon a couple of games
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  Speaker 4: there left go.
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  Speaker 5: I'm so excited to watch Rick Patino yell for two hours.
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  Speaker 3: It's again like I like the weird parts, like the
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: Hurley mc cronin Yellfest was so funny to be like,
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  Speaker 3: I just thought about the ref afterwards, just completely stressed
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  Speaker 3: and exhausted. I'm very excited for Saint John's Duke. I
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  Speaker 3: think they legitimately have a chance to pull the upset
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  Speaker 3: and then Hurley Izzo. In terms of the strategy, Yukon
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  Speaker 3: is one of the few teams that I watch and
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  Speaker 3: I and Arizona is another one where I go, I
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: would steal all of these plays if I was other
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  Speaker 3: teams around the country. The thing that upsets me about
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  Speaker 3: the bracket is I just I don't think that Yukon,
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: excuse me, Duke should have been the number one overall
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: team with their injuries.
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  Speaker 5: Right before I thought it was going to be either Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: Or Michigan, And now because of that, Arizona and Michigan
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: will be a final four matchup and not what I thought,
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: which was going to be the national championship. But yeah,
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: the cool thing with the East is whoever comes out,
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: it's a great story. If Izo makes the final four,
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: if Dan Hurley puts it together and he's trying to
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: win it like three and four years, and then if
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  Speaker 3: Rick Patino goes like yes, oh my god.
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, think about the way he would have to go.
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: It would be through Kansas, then through Duke, and then
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: through either.
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  Speaker 1: Yukon or Michigan State.
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  Speaker 4: Just to get to within two games of winning a
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  Speaker 4: national championship, you have to kill.
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  Speaker 3: Him and then and then I would say likely on
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  Speaker 3: the other side would probably be Illinois over Iowa.
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  Speaker 5: That's just where I would guess. So then you're.
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  Speaker 3: Taking on like the tallest team full of balcons that
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: are just like imported from Slovenia. Like I watched the
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: fact that after the game, I think it was Lauren
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: Shahati asked a question the guy's like I cannot tell you.
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  Speaker 5: Drago is on Illinois. I crush you. It's so funny.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: I must break you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like last night was just a bunch of like
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: shorter guys at Houston from Texas and Florida versus like
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: six nine Slovenians, and I was like, guys, this is foreshadowing,
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: like we're in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think people recognize this enough. Like, go find
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: the closest seventy three year old to you, and to me,
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: that'd be like my mom, she's like a year older
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: than that. And then imagine them doing what Rick Patino
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: does on any given night of a basketball like getting
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: up and down and yelling that much. Most seventy year
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: olds would pass out in like five minutes of that.
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: I think about do you know that health guru online
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: Brian Johnson, and he's like always taking supplements and he's like, hey,
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: I'm eating shark fin now.
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  Speaker 5: I'd be like, I don't care. I want you to
• 12:28
  Speaker 5: study Rick Patina.
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: What's his platinm what's that blood type? Like? Because he
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: looks up and he looks like he wakes up and
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: like takes a shot of Marinara sauce.
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: And then he live in his life. But no, you're right,
• 12:41
  Speaker 5: high functioning elderly person.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: Shut a Marina. It's everyone else's blood. He sucks it
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  Speaker 1: out of their necks.
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead, does a bump a parmesan left?
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: Go.
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: I'm watching this tournament conflicted as a Carolina fan because
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: it feels like I need Arizona to lose so Carolina
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: could Gaugeloyd's interest.
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Damn, you got him test test tests. No,
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: let me.
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: Let me ask the question that Taylor wanted to ask.
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: He he's a Carolina fan. He went to Carolina walk
• 13:16
  Speaker 4: on football player, went there for track, walked onto the
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: football team. Uh, and he desperately wanted Youbert Davis out.
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: Yubert Davis is out. He wants Tommy Lloyd from Arizona.
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  Speaker 4: Feels like Arizona needs to lose early. He needs to
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  Speaker 4: lose now in order for that to happen.
• 13:30
  Speaker 5: But I need Arizona to knock out Duke.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: But he needs Arizona to knockout Duke. I love doing
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: it this way by proxy.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, that was incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, you're in an O win situation.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Arizona now that he's broken through the
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: Sweet sixteen and gotten.
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: Too the Elite eight.
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think Tommy Lloyd's going anywhere. And I also
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  Speaker 3: think I get I think that Arizona would pony up
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: and the nil money would be there.
• 13:54
  Speaker 5: And he's also like on an incredible run. We're gonna learn.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: A lot about where the North Carolina job is value
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: and how much money is going to come forward. And
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: I do think it's interesting that this Bill Belichick move
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: could really cost them in basketball because the amount of
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: money they're paying Bill Belichick, the amount of nil that
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: they're having to allocate towards football, And like, if.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: I was a singer, Oh this is tough.
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  Speaker 3: If I was the CEO of a fortune five hundred company,
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: you need to understand, like this could be a loss.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: And what you learn in business is you don't pour
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: more money into a loss. But they're going to pour
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: more money into Belichick because they can't let it be
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: a loss. But the more money you pour into that,
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: are you really expecting people to pour into basketball? So
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: it's that also where it's like, hey, Jordan, the ceiling
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: is the roof, right, I hear you make a billion
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: every year? I can you can you cut us ten,
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: can you cut us twenty?
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  Speaker 5: So that's really fascinating.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: I also think, and I said it on TV last night,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: I kind of think Ben McCullum is low key becoming
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: the Kurt Signetti of basketball. This like long term bristly
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: assistant and that kind of came around and everywhere he goes.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: In year one they start winning, and you know, you
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: could go and steal someone from Duke, but like you
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: could probably get Ben McCullum for like five million dollars.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: And and the thing is too is North Carolina has
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: always hired North Carolina guys. I covered Kentucky and Louisville
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: for four years. Kentucky was one of those jobs where
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: like you needed to ingratiate yourself to the people of Lexington.
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: But I don't agree with that. Cali Parry did not
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: do that.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Calib Parry was like, this is my team and my
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: school and I'll show up and all that. And I
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: think sometimes when you become obsessed with finding people that
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: fit into the culture there, they get controlled by the culture.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: You know that they're they're so worried about impressing people
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: that in year two when that person, like, you know,
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: you should really cut that kid.
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: Like then it's like, whoa.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: I have to laugh to you now, Yes, he pulled
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: a North Carolina accent out of it.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: It was good enough. It was good enough.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, But.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the North Carolina gig is it's interesting because is
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: that gig better than a job in Utah where you
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: have some of those tech founders that are going to
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: drop fifteen million dollars and it's a we're.
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: In an interesting time. But the jerseys are cool.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Yes, Listen, Taylor was hoping that you would talk him
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: off the ledge. He is now one step closer to
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: the ledge. Okay, but Adam.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: One good higher and you're good?
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, well recruit and you're good. I think, right,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: this is what Taylor's.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: Going through right now.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: We've all been there. We ended a relationship that we
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: knew wasn't good. But then three days later you're lonely, right,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: and you're sitting at a bar and you're like, this
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: is what I have to choose from, Like this is
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: what I'm picking from. And you're sitting there and you're like,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: but I did want this, And what's going to happen
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: is like another three days later, you're gonna be sitting
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: there on a Saturday afternoon with nothing to do, watching
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: sports and having a drink and going oh yeah, peace
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: that will come. But right now you're looking around at
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: a four and you're like.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: Maybe, yeh, Taylor needs.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Some love, and I mean it's Taylor maybe a six.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: Wait, so you you split up with Chris Sims and
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: never look back.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: So what does that say about your relationship within Yeah?
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Well, you know when it happened, I was like, all right,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: I'm either gonna be the Jonah Hill or the Michael
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Sarah of this situation.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: And I was like I kind of look like I
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: go through weight fluctuations like Jonah Hill.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: So I'm gonna try and be that guy. Dude, you
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: know what I'll say to you.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: When when Sims got the gig at NBC, which I
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: think now is like eight nine years ago, I was
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: shook to my core, Like I was like, who the
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: hell wants to hear what I have to say?
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: You guys had a great show together. Yes, yeah, there's that.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: And then it's also Sims I thought was uniquely his
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: work ethic, the way he like studied football, like truly
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: watching film every not being online and having opinions that
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: he really believed that were not created to cause any controversy.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: I was like, this guy is I like working with
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: workers like like I like.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Analysts that truly study and they come in and with
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: like notes because I'm like, oh, now we can create
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: something new and you're not going to just say something
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: for clicks. So when he when he left, I was like,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a show by myself.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: I was like, I was like, I know my role.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm the straight man that can like
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: let someone go or I'll have.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: The crazy conspiracy theory take yes.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: And but you know, there's that moment where you go
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: you're either going to believe that or you're just going
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: to keep going. And I think for the universe, whatever
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: it was set it up to where that's very Soon
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: after NBA on TNT came and a lot more hosting
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: roles came, and then Shaq called me one day.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: It was like, hey, I want to a relationship to
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: the next level. And I was like, I don't know
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: what that meant. He was like, yo, I want to
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: do a podcast with you.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, deal, and yeah, the universe
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: is funny like that, you know, I don't miss uh
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the way with Sims would eat Chipotle bowls with like
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: a serving spoon from like a salad bowl. You know,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I appreciate not having to walk into work and Sims
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: being like, what are you up five pounds?
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: And I'd be like what, Wow.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Now he's always checking you out. He is, He's always
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: checking you out, and he's got comments for you.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I'm learning a lot of athletes because they always are
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: like looking at body types, are constantly sizing up normal
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: human beings. Because if you ever see an athlete around
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: a non athlete that's in shape, they always are like
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: like they like squeeze their shoulders a little bit. They're like, okay,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I see, And then I'm like, so, what are you
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: really thinking about the rest of us? The ones that
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: you don't touch and the ones that you don't ask
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: what we.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: Do for work out?
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: So that's interesting though.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: When Sims left, you were at rock like kind of
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: rock bottom, thinking what what am I going to do
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: with it?
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Not only the Sims lifts, you guys, but like my
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: producer Josh Fendrich, who now is a C suite at
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: overtime because he's like super high functioning, like incredible at
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: his job. He like six months later was like I'm
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: going to and I that's when I was like, and
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: then the pandemic hit, so it was just like I
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: got to figure this out. And and that's sort of
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: when I was like, let me just go all in
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: with TV and and really refine that as much as
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I can. But yeah, man, it's that you know this,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: there's doubt that comes in stages, Like I think once
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: you get to a certain level that you're not going
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: to have that anymore. But the real thing is is
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: if you can keep reinventing yourself or keep pushing into
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: a new if you just don't stop, you can outrun it.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: But it definitely pops up all the time.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: It chases you, right, the industry chases you. But if
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: you keep working hard, you'll find opportunities.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Oh dude, doing the French Open like like like preparing
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: for that and like watching Tennis channel every day and
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: being like if I say the wrong word, I'm going
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: to get destroyed. When I was doing baseball and they're
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: like just a reminder it's home plate.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Not home base, and I'm like, oh my god.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: And so there's there's those little moments when you aren't
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: getting ready for a sport where you're like, this could
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: all fall apart.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: When did you realize, though, that you didn't have to
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: be perfect even doing you know, even as a studio
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: host on TV, you have realized you've come to the
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: realization here, Adam, you don't have to be perfect. You
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: can have some fun. You can laugh a little bit.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: It's okay, it's fine.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: What I would say is when I realized that I
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: don't need to carry the show that people tune in
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: for the other people, it can free you up.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: Some people it's you go, well what about you? And
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, I take pride, but my mom's watching for me,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: and maybe Stu Goots is watching for me.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, but everybody else wants to hear what these guys
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: have to say. So just get the ball to that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Your job is to Your job is to take off
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: the plane and land the plane and in between, if
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: you don't say anything, you're actually doing an amazing job, right,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: So that takes a lot of pressure off of it.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I tune in for Jared Greenberg and check him out
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: tonight The Sweet sixteen. It ten yus. He's your studio host.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: He's fantastic. I love him. I'm happy for him, and
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: we appreciate your time. Sir.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Next time we have you on, I just want to
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: do twenty minutes on SIMS.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Just twenty minutes SIMS stories, your top five SIMS stories.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll bring like different types of SIMS stories, disgusting, funny,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: it'll be good.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Look.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I see him with the Super Bowl. He looks at me.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I look at him. I'm not sizing him up. He's
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: sizing me up.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: And then he turns to me and he says, to
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: god's you get a comment on how good I fucking look?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what